Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I don't have the book here, but I do recall that he had the truck/trailer built for him...Tsingtao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Ross" <pathfinder66@earthlink.net> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 2:11 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] AR Volume 1, No. 2 > Greetings All, > > To respond to a couple of questions raised about Vol. 1, No. 2: > > Denny: Yes, the Ohio Scenic Byways insert is universal. Ohio people are special. I thought everyone knew that. ;-) > > Bliss: Rocinante - I can't answer your question about the V-6. I will refer this to Mr. Brusca and we'll try to publish the question and the response as a letter in #3 or #4. > > Joe: If you had to read "Don Quixote" in Spanish, I think I speak for many in saying, Better you than me! > > We greatly appreciate all the feedback. Please send us letters for our Write of Way department. Raise any on-topic issue that you like. All the praise is great, but we would like to see some other comments or hear about your vision for American Road. Send your mail to me at: jross@mockturtlepress.com. Thanks! > > Jim R. > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darlene Petralia Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Hello again, I know I promised to stop asking questions, but this is sort of a "call" to other members. I've found two other dog fanciers (breeders/exhibitors and judges) on this list. We were wondering if there were any others? It would be great to keep informed and possibly meet up at mutual shows. I'll be at the Adirondack Circuit, Saratoga Fairgrounds, Ballston Spa New York Aug. 10-14. Showing in the Cavalier ring and will have our trailer there. Darlene Darlene Petralia Gray Stone Cavaliers www.nenycavaliers.com Strolling Village Artisans www.strollingvillageartisans.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dave Reese Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Route 209 has improved from the days of being called the Ho Chi Minh Trail by the truckers. It was deadlier than I-78 anytime. Old Route 22 west of Allentown is much more relaxing than the I-78 road. I drove I-78 almost daily during the construction years, and often dropped off to the original 2 lane to make better time between Allentown and Harrisburg. There are times US-22 from Allentown to Easton is almost as bad as the Sure-Kill in Philly, but that stretch of I-78 is much better and now does connect with Route 33. I just spent last week going up and down on I-25 in Colorado on vacation, and that was always backed up in Colorado Springs and in Denver for construction. I have learned alternates through the Springs but have no clue through Denver. Dave Reese Allentown PA Home of Brooklands Speedway and Cherrington Park http://www.geocities.com/brooklandsspeedway/ http://www.summerharmony.com -----Original Message----- Ah, yes, Allentown - been thru there. Sometimes going to, or from, Memphis, I'll take 209 between Milford and Marshalls Creed, PA, then cut off 80 onto 33 to Route 22. Now theres a stretch that will curl your toes - the Easton/Bethlehem/Allantown corridor on 22!!!! Wall to wall traffic going way, way to fast, even tho it's multi-lane!!!!! You don't DRIVE that corridor - you survive!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K L Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Hello my name is Kimberly and i joined particualarly to see if i can find my next home through this. I live right in the middle of the city and i hate it i want to live out in the country and enjoy the serenity of the country life. I have one more year to go before i can move waiting for daughter to graduate. I am looking for the old towns from northern va through clarksville tennessee somewhere along or close to that route if anyone happens to find one or knows of one close enough i would love to hear about it. I can check it out as well. Also speaking of dog shows. I saw one the other nite but it was late and i didnt catch it all wondering if any of you know what i am talking about . I saw a tiebtan mastiff and the breeder is in cheaspeake, va and i didnt get her name that is what i need to try to contact her about her pups. I have enjoyed reading about the road trips you guys have been on . I am really excited about the train trip that i want to try to do next year. I am keeping track of all these road trips so i can do this and i cant wait. wanna be in the country, Kimberly Darlene Petralia <npetrali@nycap.rr.com> wrote: Hello again, I know I promised to stop asking questions, but this is sort of a "call" to other members. I've found two other dog fanciers (breeders/exhibitors and judges) on this list. We were wondering if there were any others? It would be great to keep informed and possibly meet up at mutual shows. I'll be at the Adirondack Circuit, Saratoga Fairgrounds, Ballston Spa New York Aug. 10-14. Showing in the Cavalier ring and will have our trailer there. Darlene Darlene Petralia Gray Stone Cavaliers www.nenycavaliers.com Strolling Village Artisans www.strollingvillageartisans.com Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance schools --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beckyrepp Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Jim, Hi. I read your post a few days ago. I apologize for my delay in responding. AMERICAN ROAD magazine is going on press in the next few days--so we're at crunch time. Regarding your question, our upcoming issue centers around a number of America's Byways. Funny you should ask about partnership opportunities-- another Byway Coordinator and I just submitted a proposal for a poster presentation at the National Scenic Byways Conference about partnerships. If you are interested in connecting about ways AMERICAN ROAD might be able to partner with you, please contact me at becky@mockturtlepress.com or you may call our offices at 586-468-7299. Sincerely, Becky Repp General Manager AMERICAN ROAD magazine Mock Turtle Press --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Vancura" <vancura@o...> wrote: > I am new to American Road and joined this list server mostly because > of the name. I am affiliated with a National, All American Road, the > Volcanic Legacy All American Road in northern California and southern > Oregon. Supporters of the VLAAR are very interested in partnerships > that result in promotion and enhancement of the many assets that we > enjoy in far-northern California and southern Oregon. > > Has American Road ever considered doing a piece on traveling > nationally designated, All American Roads, and specifically the > Volcanic Legacy All American Road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dona Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Have a safe one..and yep, our first spammer showed up today right on schedule. ;-) dona www.mistyowl.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer" <jabremer66@aol.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 6:28 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] ADMIN - Temporary Change in List Status Hi all! Pat and I are leaving for Atlanta and will be gone for a week. We know that the current system of member approval and short moderation of new members works well, since we have been spam free for some time now! But it requires our attention, and we will be away for a week without Internet access. So, during that time we have changed the status of the list to automatic member joining, and any new members who join this week will not be moderated. I hope not, but there could be spam this week. We will deal with any offenders when we return. If we can find access before, we will try our best to address it sooner. Time to hit the road, Jennifer Bremer American Road Yahoo Group Moderator Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.737 / Virus Database: 491 - Release Date: 8/11/2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dianareesjohnson Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Is there any way to find out what certain roads are like ahead of time. We travel in a large motorhome. I have vertigo (I guess it is called) and I get very frightened on windy roads with narrow shoulders and cliff like views. You know the kind they show in movies when the bad guy misses the turn and flies off the cliff and explodes into flames? LOL. I like to stick to wider or flatter roads where possible. Is there somewhere to look for this information? Currently I am planning a trip from southern Oregon to Salt Lake City and want to plan my route. Diana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest egyptianzipper@aol.com Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 In a message dated 8/2/05 7:30:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, npetrali@nycap.rr.com writes: And of interest, but not so lovely are the "mental institutions" that have been closed for a long time ==================================================================== Not a mental institution but a TB sanitarium that's been closed since 1980, in Glenn Dale MD. It's on Maryland Route 450 (at one time, 50) in Prince George's County. The abandoned buildings are supposed to be haunted. There's plenty on the web about it. Tom Hoffman Pearisburg VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skip_66062 Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I do not where in So. Oregon you are starting from but from Boise to Salt Lake City if you stay on major hiways you will be hard pressed to find any "Cliffs" unless they are in the car with you. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "dianareesjohnson" <dianareesjohnson@y...> wrote: > Is there any way to find out what certain roads are like ahead of > time. We travel in a large motorhome. I have vertigo (I guess it is > called) and I get very frightened on windy roads with narrow shoulders > and cliff like views. You know the kind they show in movies when the > bad guy misses the turn and flies off the cliff and explodes into > flames? LOL. I like to stick to wider or flatter roads where > possible. Is there somewhere to look for this information? > > Currently I am planning a trip from southern Oregon to Salt Lake City > and want to plan my route. > > Diana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skip_66062 Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Well, since I almost got a CKC but did not care for the local Breeder my wife and I went to a local show where we met a Papillon breeder that had a real nice attitude along with nice dogs, my wife and I now have 4 of the little loves. Two that my wife shows here in the Heartland. Sorry about the CKC's but the breeder can make or break a sale. Skip --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Darlene Petralia <npetrali@n...> wrote: > Hello again, I know I promised to stop asking questions, but this is > sort of a "call" to other members. > > I've found two other dog fanciers (breeders/exhibitors and judges) on > this list. We were wondering if there were any others? > > It would be great to keep informed and possibly meet up at mutual shows. > > I'll be at the Adirondack Circuit, Saratoga Fairgrounds, Ballston Spa > New York Aug. 10-14. Showing in the Cavalier ring and will have our > trailer there. > > Darlene > > Darlene Petralia > Gray Stone Cavaliers > www.nenycavaliers.com > Strolling Village Artisans > www.strollingvillageartisans.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 There is a 50/50 chance that I'll shortly have a couple of idle days in Phoenix. My first idea was to spend it going straight up to Flagstaff and driving 66 through Seligman & Oatman. I don't get out west very often, but I did happen to do that drive in June. I know I could find plenty of new things to explore on that stretch but thought I'd ask this group what they would do in a similar situation. Either something new and different around Phoenix or some specific items on Route 66 west of Flagstaff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Diana Johnson Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Thank you. Do you know of any interesting routes or things to see in those areas? I know the coast well but not the hot dry spots. I can't seem to find anything interesting on the Net either. It's like Utah doesn't exist. diana skip_66062 <gparry23@sbcglobal.net> wrote: I do not where in So. Oregon you are starting from but from Boise to Salt Lake City if you stay on major hiways you will be hard pressed to find any "Cliffs" unless they are in the car with you. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "dianareesjohnson" <dianareesjohnson@y...> wrote: > Is there any way to find out what certain roads are like ahead of > time. We travel in a large motorhome. I have vertigo (I guess it is > called) and I get very frightened on windy roads with narrow shoulders > and cliff like views. You know the kind they show in movies when the > bad guy misses the turn and flies off the cliff and explodes into > flames? LOL. I like to stick to wider or flatter roads where > possible. Is there somewhere to look for this information? > > Currently I am planning a trip from southern Oregon to Salt Lake City > and want to plan my route. > > Diana Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance schools --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest George Parry Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 it pretty much does not exist. Not much to see except for the lack of cliffs. Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: Diana Johnson To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: New here with a question Thank you. Do you know of any interesting routes or things to see in those areas? I know the coast well but not the hot dry spots. I can't seem to find anything interesting on the Net either. It's like Utah doesn't exist. diana skip_66062 <gparry23@sbcglobal.net> wrote: I do not where in So. Oregon you are starting from but from Boise to Salt Lake City if you stay on major hiways you will be hard pressed to find any "Cliffs" unless they are in the car with you. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "dianareesjohnson" <dianareesjohnson@y...> wrote: > Is there any way to find out what certain roads are like ahead of > time. We travel in a large motorhome. I have vertigo (I guess it is > called) and I get very frightened on windy roads with narrow shoulders > and cliff like views. You know the kind they show in movies when the > bad guy misses the turn and flies off the cliff and explodes into > flames? LOL. I like to stick to wider or flatter roads where > possible. Is there somewhere to look for this information? > > Currently I am planning a trip from southern Oregon to Salt Lake City > and want to plan my route. > > Diana Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance schools --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ken Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Hey Denny! If I were you with a few free days off in the Phoenix area, I'd make it into a "Triangle Adventure Trip"! From Phoenix, head east towards Mesa and then onto Apache Junction and drive the old US 60 Highway! Take it through the Salt River Canyon and view the older alignments and great bridges along the way. The scenery abounds as well as visiting through some mighty fine small mining towns along the way! You'll burn up at least a roll of film on this leg of the adventure! Stay on US 60 to Eager, AZ. From Eager, go north on US 191, which was formerly the lower leg of old US Highway 666. US 191 will dump you onto Route 66, and then head west on the Mother Road, but at times you will have to enter the SuperSlab I-40. No biggie! You'll pass by the Painted Desert and the National Petrified Forest. Be sure to make the Painted Desert loop as you are heading west! Superb indeed! Stay on Route 66 as much as you can, all the way to Flagstaff! Once in Flagstaff, take in all the great Route 66 sites and icons. From Flagstaff, take SR 89A south to Sedona then on to Prescott. Best to have your camera filled and have extra film on this leg of the Triangle Adventure! Trust me sir! Once in Prescott, take SR 89 to Wickenburg. Voila!...now you're back on old US 60!!!! Take US 60 heading east and you'll be strolling back into Phoenix in no time at all. You'll indeed be glad that you made this Triangle Adventure Trip! Oh Yeah! Like I said, if I had an extra few days in the southern Arizona area,...that's what I would do. Q:) God Bless and Happy Trails. Have a safe sojourn. the landrunner <http://www.route66postmarkart.com> P.S. Mike Ward from this E-Group lives in the Mesa area. You should look him up while you're there. You will thoroughly meeting Mike and his wonderful wife Sharon. They are experts in the area! "To see something that you've never seen before... You have to go somewhere you've never been before." --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <mail@d...> wrote: > There is a 50/50 chance that I'll shortly have a couple of idle days > in Phoenix. My first idea was to spend it going straight up to > Flagstaff and driving 66 through Seligman & Oatman. I don't get out > west very often, but I did happen to do that drive in June. I know I > could find plenty of new things to explore on that stretch but > thought I'd ask this group what they would do in a similar situation. > Either something new and different around Phoenix or some specific > items on Route 66 west of Flagstaff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Willy Willman Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 My father's side is from So. Oregon, so we make this drive every other year all the way to Colorado through Utah - Salt Lake. Sometimes So Oregon through Reno East to Utah, sometimes, So Oregon East to Idaho then south, sometimes So Oregon using Winnemucca to the Ocean highway coming East though (Hwy 139/140 in Oregon) Depending on where you are going/coming from...there is some of the most beautiful but desolate scenery here and isolation at its best. Great for a long motorcycle cruise. Fast Driving in a hot car. Or if you are making time in a Motorhome, a nice nap. I am usually for the first two, but have traveled with family who are into the latter. There are some hills, some sand dunes, some salt dunes. If you travelling US Highways - 93, 95, 97, 20, 30 are all good solid non cliff type drives for Motorhomes. If you superslab I - 80, there is just the great geology of the area in Nevada into Utah, some hill climbs and descents, but nothing too scary or "cliffed". Heck, I have seen some interesting UFO objects in the sky even. The wildlife, though you may not think it is there, is simply awesome, if you take the time to look. I would look up the National Wildlife Refuges in the areas. Wild horse, burros, antelope and elk along with major bird migration populations are abundent in these Wildlife Refuges. Great photo ops and bird watching. There are some mining exhibits to see in Nevada and Utah. The Lincoln Highway and old alignments to follow or find. I have walked in the Salt Lake Desert to feel the salt in my toes. If you are coming So. Oregon through CA to Reno and over, Mount Shasta and the volcanic region in NE California off Hwy 97 is awesome if you are into that. If you have "vertigo", the State Highways in Oregon, Idaho and Nevada, do have some twisting and winding, cliff side drives, it just depends on the highway. If you love casinos or casinos on Indian Reservations, there are plenty of those in Oregon, Nevada. Wendover, Utah is a nice little gambling town. Winnemucca, Nevada too...has the old town charm. Elko, Nevada is a great ole mining and railroad town. The Bonneville Salt Flats in Western Utah are something to see, if people are a racing there. Try taking a car, and going as fast as humanly possible. It is a site to see a rocket car, go 200-300mph and kick up a bit of salt dust. If you go east to Idaho and south, US 20 and 30 though desolate drives, have an interesting desert charm, I have seen rattlers and antelope cross these roads before. If you decide to superslab, not much too see on I84, unless you like Boise or Twin Falls which does have some things to do. The Oregon Trail to try and find/follow is something you may find interesting too. Not sure what you are in to, but hope that helps. Your roadie pal from Colorado, 66 Willy Dave Willman --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "George Parry" <gparry23@s...> wrote: > it pretty much does not exist. Not much to see except for the lack of cliffs. > > Skip > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Diana Johnson > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: New here with a question > > > Thank you. Do you know of any interesting routes or things to see in those areas? I know the coast well but not the hot dry spots. I can't seem to find anything interesting on the Net either. It's like Utah doesn't exist. > > diana > > skip_66062 <gparry23@s...> wrote: > I do not where in So. Oregon you are starting from but from Boise to > Salt Lake City if you stay on major hiways you will be hard pressed > to > find any "Cliffs" unless they are in the car with you. > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "dianareesjohnson" > <dianareesjohnson@y...> wrote: > > Is there any way to find out what certain roads are like ahead of > > time. We travel in a large motorhome. I have vertigo (I guess it > is > > called) and I get very frightened on windy roads with narrow > shoulders > > and cliff like views. You know the kind they show in movies when > the > > bad guy misses the turn and flies off the cliff and explodes into > > flames? LOL. I like to stick to wider or flatter roads where > > possible. Is there somewhere to look for this information? > > > > Currently I am planning a trip from southern Oregon to Salt Lake > City > > and want to plan my route. > > > > Diana > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877- 285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD- owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD- subscribe@y... 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Guest maxinagoogle Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Hi Diana, Ogden Utah has a train display with old buggies and trains. It's pretty neat. The Golden Spike history is there too. Also, don't forget about Bryce Canyon (if you go that far). I'm new here too. Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darlene Petralia Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Hi Skip, Don't be sorry, I've heard this more than once. Believe it or not, there are a lot of really, really nice Cavalier breeders. Paps are loving, smart, and funny toy dogs. Great at obedience and agility too. I also have a terrific little pup, a mini-Aussie. I had Aussie's (standard) before I ever had Cavaliers. I never bred them, but I love them. Gettin' a little too old for the standards now, the mini is a wonderful compliment to the Cavaliers. To keep this on topic, I got my mini from a wonderful breeder in New Hampshire. The ride from here to Keene on NY7 across VT on Rt. 9 is gorgeous. It's not a long trip but breathtaking scenery. Charming New England villages with a lot of good eateries. This was a spring trip and the creeks were running high with meltoff and spring rains. Darlene Darlene Petralia Gray Stone Cavaliers www.nenycavaliers.com Strolling Village Artisans www.strollingvillageartisans.com On Aug 3, 2005, at 4:24 PM, skip_66062 wrote: > Well, since I almost got a CKC but did not care for the local > Breeder my wife and IA went to a local show where we met a Papillon > breeder that had a real nice attitude along with nice dogs, my wife > and I now have 4 of the little loves.A Two that my wife shows here > in the Heartland. > > Sorry about the CKC's but the breeder can make or break a sale. > > Skip > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Darlene Petralia > <npetrali@n...> wrote: > > Hello again,A I know I promised to stop asking questions,A but > this is > > sort of a "call" to other members. > > > > I've found two other dog fanciers (breeders/exhibitors and judges) > on > > this list.A A We were wondering if there were any others? > > > > It would be great to keep informed and possibly meet up at mutual > shows. > > > > I'll be at the Adirondack Circuit,A Saratoga Fairgrounds, Ballston > Spa > > New YorkA Aug. 10-14.A A Showing in the Cavalier ring and will have > our > > trailer there. > > > > Darlene > > > > Darlene Petralia > > Gray Stone Cavaliers > > www.nenycavaliers.com > > Strolling Village Artisans > > www.strollingvillageartisans.com > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE > 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA > 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, > send it to:A AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Business finance course > Business to business finance > Small business finance > > Business finance consultant > Business finance schools > Business finance schools > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > a–? A Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. > A > a–? A To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > A AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > A > a–? A Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Diana Johnson Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Thank you so much. I will print out your email and use it to trace out some routes on an atlas. We are in the Medford area. I was born on the Oregon coast and grew up in SW Washington. I miss the green up there, although this is hardly desolate by most standards. The Oregon Trail will probably be something I try to locate and go along. I take a pretty educational approach to traveling with our 4 kids. We like to learn about and see new things. I like scenery but need something more touristy to do as well. We don't do casinos or really much in the way of theme parks. Museums, historical areas, especially odd little quirks like cheese factories or the like. I am such a coastal person it is hard to imagine traveling without the ocean. Are you familiar with Hwy101 down the Oregon coast? What part of Oregon is your family in? Diana David Willy Willman <dwillman66@comcast.net> wrote: My father's side is from So. Oregon, so we make this drive every other year all the way to Colorado through Utah - Salt Lake. Sometimes So Oregon through Reno East to Utah, sometimes, So Oregon East to Idaho then south, sometimes So Oregon using Winnemucca to the Ocean highway coming East though (Hwy 139/140 in Oregon) Depending on where you are going/coming from...there is some of the most beautiful but desolate scenery here and isolation at its best. Great for a long motorcycle cruise. Fast Driving in a hot car. Or if you are making time in a Motorhome, a nice nap. I am usually for the first two, but have traveled with family who are into the latter. There are some hills, some sand dunes, some salt dunes. If you travelling US Highways - 93, 95, 97, 20, 30 are all good solid non cliff type drives for Motorhomes. If you superslab I - 80, there is just the great geology of the area in Nevada into Utah, some hill climbs and descents, but nothing too scary or "cliffed". Heck, I have seen some interesting UFO objects in the sky even. The wildlife, though you may not think it is there, is simply awesome, if you take the time to look. I would look up the National Wildlife Refuges in the areas. Wild horse, burros, antelope and elk along with major bird migration populations are abundent in these Wildlife Refuges. Great photo ops and bird watching. There are some mining exhibits to see in Nevada and Utah. The Lincoln Highway and old alignments to follow or find. I have walked in the Salt Lake Desert to feel the salt in my toes. If you are coming So. Oregon through CA to Reno and over, Mount Shasta and the volcanic region in NE California off Hwy 97 is awesome if you are into that. If you have "vertigo", the State Highways in Oregon, Idaho and Nevada, do have some twisting and winding, cliff side drives, it just depends on the highway. If you love casinos or casinos on Indian Reservations, there are plenty of those in Oregon, Nevada. Wendover, Utah is a nice little gambling town. Winnemucca, Nevada too...has the old town charm. Elko, Nevada is a great ole mining and railroad town. The Bonneville Salt Flats in Western Utah are something to see, if people are a racing there. Try taking a car, and going as fast as humanly possible. It is a site to see a rocket car, go 200-300mph and kick up a bit of salt dust. If you go east to Idaho and south, US 20 and 30 though desolate drives, have an interesting desert charm, I have seen rattlers and antelope cross these roads before. If you decide to superslab, not much too see on I84, unless you like Boise or Twin Falls which does have some things to do. The Oregon Trail to try and find/follow is something you may find interesting too. Not sure what you are in to, but hope that helps. Your roadie pal from Colorado, 66 Willy Dave Willman --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "George Parry" <gparry23@s...> wrote: > it pretty much does not exist. Not much to see except for the lack of cliffs. > > Skip > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Diana Johnson > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: New here with a question > > > Thank you. Do you know of any interesting routes or things to see in those areas? I know the coast well but not the hot dry spots. I can't seem to find anything interesting on the Net either. It's like Utah doesn't exist. > > diana > > skip_66062 <gparry23@s...> wrote: > I do not where in So. Oregon you are starting from but from Boise to > Salt Lake City if you stay on major hiways you will be hard pressed > to > find any "Cliffs" unless they are in the car with you. > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "dianareesjohnson" > <dianareesjohnson@y...> wrote: > > Is there any way to find out what certain roads are like ahead of > > time. We travel in a large motorhome. I have vertigo (I guess it > is > > called) and I get very frightened on windy roads with narrow > shoulders > > and cliff like views. You know the kind they show in movies when > the > > bad guy misses the turn and flies off the cliff and explodes into > > flames? LOL. I like to stick to wider or flatter roads where > > possible. Is there somewhere to look for this information? > > > > Currently I am planning a trip from southern Oregon to Salt Lake > City > > and want to plan my route. > > > > Diana > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877- 285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD- owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD- subscribe@y... 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Guest Denny Gibson Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 That's exactly the sort of thing I was hoping for. Lottsa thanks. I did a quick plot on the "Triangle" (actually looks a little like a fish, if you squint just right) and it looks like it might be marginally do-able in two days but would really require three or more to avoid a time squeeze. So I have to ask about trimmings and substitutions. #1. What about clipping the 191 from St Johns to Sanders? The Petrified Forest is certainly cool but I have been there so it has to be considered expendable. The question is, what would I miss by substituting 180 for 191? #2. An even bigger clip would be to head north at Show Low (Wish I could remember where I've read about that town.) and take 77 straight to Holbrook. #3. Route 77 goes through Snowflake and seeing that prompted me to dig out Blue Highways. Heat-Moon turned north at Snowflake after taking 87-260-277 from Phoenix. That cuts off a few hours, throws in a little literary connection, and completely removes any resemblance to a triangle. #4. If time got even shorter, I guess I could hightail it out of Flagstaff on I-17 and miss out on Prescott, etc. This is all theoretical right now because there might be no free time. There could be three or four days but if it turns out to be one or two, I want to be ready to use it. Any comments on the above possibilities? -----Original Message----- From: Ken [mailto:thelandrunner@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:30 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: What's near Phoenix? Hey Denny! If I were you with a few free days off in the Phoenix area, I'd make it into a "Triangle Adventure Trip"! From Phoenix, head east towards Mesa and then onto Apache Junction and drive the old US 60 Highway! Take it through the Salt River Canyon and view the older alignments and great bridges along the way. The scenery abounds as well as visiting through some mighty fine small mining towns along the way! You'll burn up at least a roll of film on this leg of the adventure! Stay on US 60 to Eager, AZ. From Eager, go north on US 191, which was formerly the lower leg of old US Highway 666. US 191 will dump you onto Route 66, and then head west on the Mother Road, but at times you will have to enter the SuperSlab I-40. No biggie! You'll pass by the Painted Desert and the National Petrified Forest. Be sure to make the Painted Desert loop as you are heading west! Superb indeed! Stay on Route 66 as much as you can, all the way to Flagstaff! Once in Flagstaff, take in all the great Route 66 sites and icons. >From Flagstaff, take SR 89A south to Sedona then on to Prescott. Best to have your camera filled and have extra film on this leg of the Triangle Adventure! Trust me sir! Once in Prescott, take SR 89 to Wickenburg. Voila!...now you're back on old US 60!!!! Take US 60 heading east and you'll be strolling back into Phoenix in no time at all. You'll indeed be glad that you made this Triangle Adventure Trip! Oh Yeah! Like I said, if I had an extra few days in the southern Arizona area,...that's what I would do. Q:) God Bless and Happy Trails. Have a safe sojourn. the landrunner <http://www.route66postmarkart.com> P.S. Mike Ward from this E-Group lives in the Mesa area. You should look him up while you're there. You will thoroughly meeting Mike and his wonderful wife Sharon. They are experts in the area! "To see something that you've never seen before... You have to go somewhere you've never been before." --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <mail@d...> wrote: > There is a 50/50 chance that I'll shortly have a couple of idle days > in Phoenix. My first idea was to spend it going straight up to > Flagstaff and driving 66 through Seligman & Oatman. I don't get out > west very often, but I did happen to do that drive in June. I know I > could find plenty of new things to explore on that stretch but > thought I'd ask this group what they would do in a similar situation. > Either something new and different around Phoenix or some specific > items on Route 66 west of Flagstaff. Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Well, the party's come to an end, folks. After 5-plus weeks, the American Road Yahoo Group was taken off the Editor's Picks list. Before they recognized us in late June, our membership was 278. And after our run on the list, we're standing at 1,162 members. If I knew who the Yahoo Groups Editor was or where to contact him/her, I'd give them a big, hearty Hoosier "Thank ya" for helping a new batch of road warriors find us. I've been really impressed with the amount of knowledge there is among the new members over the last few weeks. Job well done! Pat Bremer American Road Yahoo Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Ward Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Pat, I'll bet the quadrupling+ of the membership rolls have kept you and Jen busy. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat B.<mailto:roadmaven@aol.com> To: <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 5:46 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Off Editor's Pick List Well, the party's come to an end, folks. After 5-plus weeks, the American Road Yahoo Group was taken off the Editor's Picks list. Before they recognized us in late June, our membership was 278. And after our run on the list, we're standing at 1,162 members. If I knew who the Yahoo Groups Editor was or where to contact him/her, I'd give them a big, hearty Hoosier "Thank ya" for helping a new batch of road warriors find us. I've been really impressed with the amount of knowledge there is among the new members over the last few weeks. Job well done! Pat Bremer American Road Yahoo Group Visit our homepage at: <http://www.mockturtlepress.com/> To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD>" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoo groups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beckyrepp Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 A big WELCOME from AMERICAN ROAD staff to the folks that have joined the AMERICAN ROAD yahoo group in the last week or so (the rest of you have had a welcome message from our staff already--so this may be redundant). We are happy to have all of you as part of our merry band of backroad travelers. And, once again, we would like to recognize our AMERICAN ROAD Yahoo Group hosts--Pat & Jennifer Bremer. They do a great job -- you all kept them hopping this month! Pat-- If you find the Yahoo Groups Editor--please let me know. I would love to send the Editor a thank you note. Dream well and drive safely on the AMERICAN ROAD! Becky Repp General Manager & Coordinating Editor AMERICAN ROAD magazine *A TOP NEW MAGAZINE--As seen in USA Today --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Pat B." <roadmaven@a...> wrote: > Well, the party's come to an end, folks. After 5-plus weeks, the > American Road Yahoo Group was taken off the Editor's Picks list. Before > they recognized us in late June, our membership was 278. And after our > run on the list, we're standing at 1,162 members. If I knew who the > Yahoo Groups Editor was or where to contact him/her, I'd give them a > big, hearty Hoosier "Thank ya" for helping a new batch of road warriors > find us. I've been really impressed with the amount of knowledge there > is among the new members over the last few weeks. Job well done! > > Pat Bremer > American Road Yahoo Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Ward" <flyboy1946@h...> wrote: > Pat, > > I'll bet the quadrupling+ of the membership rolls have kept you and Jen busy. > > Mike Mike, If ONLY you knew! We probably denied more than we approved. Since we want to keep this place tidy, we do that to eliminate spammers. So to join, as you all know, potential members have to give us a brief reason why they wanted to join the group. If I had a penny for every response that just said "Hi", I'd be a 37 year old happily retired young man. We wanted to make sure the people we let in the door wanted in because they have an interest in two-lane travel. I'm guessing, but we probably had 50-60 requests each day. So it'll be nice not to have to check on things every couple of hours in case anyone was waiting approval. Whew! Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ken Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Greetings Denny! Hey...I can see that fish that you see. Whoa! #1. Bypassing US191 to provide time for the journey is certainly an option. The reasons why I suggested US 191 is because 1) It skirts the Apache National Forest and is a beautiful drive, 2) I thought you might enjoy cruising on the former US 666 route. Your choice of path changes to save time is most understandable, and really only depends on the amount of time you can afford. Going by way of US 180 isn't as scenic drive as US 191, but one must keep within the time constraints. #2. If you were to clip off a part of the Triangle, this choice of taking SR 77 would be your best bet. Takes you on a beeline straight to the Mother Road. This is the clip that I would recommend, if any clipping should have to occur. P.S. - You probably read alot about Showlow and the surrounding areas last year, when the entire area was engulfed with disasterous fires that burned millions of acres of forest and many of the towns were evacuated. #3. Don't worry about messing up the Triangle shaped journey path. You're reasoning for this clip connects you, in a literary sense, to Blue Highways and is a great motive for making this journey possible! Bring the book with you. You may find a shade tree to stop for a packed roadside lunch and cop a few pages in while you're enjoying the mountain breeze and relaxing a meal down. #4. Yep. I agree! A quick jaunt over to the SuperSlab will certainly get you out of a bind for time. Another alternate route to this clip could be to remain on course going south from Flagstaff on SR 89A, through Sedona (gotta go to Sedona!), to Prescott. At Prescott, jog southeast on SR 69 through Dewey, Humboldt, Mayer, and then dump onto I-17 from there. This route will trek you through the gap with the Prescott National Forest on both sides. Nice! Only other advice is to leave very early in the mornings. You will have PLENTY of time to make this journey, especially after some of the clips. Besides, with the Arizona heat blazing this time of year, you'll be glad that you had enjoyed at least a small bit of time in the coolness of the morning air. As a part time hiker, I will always add the recommendation of bringing plenty of water with you. God Bless Denny! Have fun! Safe and Happy Trails. the landrunner Q:) --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <mail@d...> wrote: > That's exactly the sort of thing I was hoping for. Lottsa thanks. > > I did a quick plot on the "Triangle" (actually looks a little like a fish, > if you squint just right) and it looks like it might be marginally do-able > in two days but would really require three or more to avoid a time squeeze. > So I have to ask about trimmings and substitutions. > > #1. What about clipping the 191 from St Johns to Sanders? The Petrified > Forest is certainly cool but I have been there so it has to be considered > expendable. The question is, what would I miss by substituting 180 for 191? > > #2. An even bigger clip would be to head north at Show Low (Wish I could > remember where I've read about that town.) and take 77 straight to Holbrook. > > #3. Route 77 goes through Snowflake and seeing that prompted me to dig out > Blue Highways. Heat-Moon turned north at Snowflake after taking 87- 260-277 > from Phoenix. That cuts off a few hours, throws in a little literary > connection, and completely removes any resemblance to a triangle. > > #4. If time got even shorter, I guess I could hightail it out of Flagstaff > on I-17 and miss out on Prescott, etc. > > This is all theoretical right now because there might be no free time. There > could be three or four days but if it turns out to be one or two, I want to > be ready to use it. Any comments on the above possibilities? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken [mailto:thelandrunner@y...] > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:30 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: What's near Phoenix? > > > Hey Denny! > > If I were you with a few free days off in the Phoenix area, I'd make > it into a "Triangle Adventure Trip"! From Phoenix, head east towards > Mesa and then onto Apache Junction and drive the old US 60 Highway! > Take it through the Salt River Canyon and view the older alignments > and great bridges along the way. The scenery abounds as well as > visiting through some mighty fine small mining towns along the way! > You'll burn up at least a roll of film on this leg of the adventure! > > Stay on US 60 to Eager, AZ. From Eager, go north on US 191, which was > formerly the lower leg of old US Highway 666. US 191 will dump you > onto Route 66, and then head west on the Mother Road, but at times > you will have to enter the SuperSlab I-40. No biggie! You'll pass by > the Painted Desert and the National Petrified Forest. Be sure to make > the Painted Desert loop as you are heading west! Superb indeed! > Stay on Route 66 as much as you can, all the way to Flagstaff! > > Once in Flagstaff, take in all the great Route 66 sites and icons. > >From Flagstaff, take SR 89A south to Sedona then on to Prescott. Best > to have your camera filled and have extra film on this leg of the > Triangle Adventure! Trust me sir! Once in Prescott, take SR 89 to > Wickenburg. Voila!...now you're back on old US 60!!!! Take US 60 > heading east and you'll be strolling back into Phoenix in no time at > all. You'll indeed be glad that you made this Triangle Adventure > Trip! Oh Yeah! > > Like I said, if I had an extra few days in the southern Arizona > area,...that's what I would do. Q:) > > God Bless and Happy Trails. > Have a safe sojourn. > > the landrunner > <http://www.route66postmarkart.com> > > P.S. Mike Ward from this E-Group lives in the Mesa area. You should > look him up while you're there. You will thoroughly meeting Mike and > his wonderful wife Sharon. They are experts in the area! > > "To see something that you've never seen before... > You have to go somewhere you've never been before." > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <mail@d...> > wrote: > > There is a 50/50 chance that I'll shortly have a couple of idle > days > > in Phoenix. My first idea was to spend it going straight up to > > Flagstaff and driving 66 through Seligman & Oatman. I don't get out > > west very often, but I did happen to do that drive in June. 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Guest ken Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Diana & Group, First off here's a neat place to see, on Hwy 189 north of Povo Ut. about 4 mi. or so you'll find the "Bridal Veil Falls" near the begining of the Provo Canyon area. There is a tramway/ cable car that takes people up to what I thought was a restaurant at the top of the canyon rim. The falls in itself is worth seeing. Also; If you ever get the chance to get over to Wyoming way. There's "ALOT" of history along the Oregon Trail! Check out the "Fort Laramie N.H.S." This is a well preserved fort with people dressed for the era with renactments of the life style, The buildings are furnished with alot of the old artifacts & it looks & feels like you've stepped back in time! Just down the road to the south of Guernsey Wy, You will find the famous "Oregon Trail Wagon Ruts", Just a little ways beyond the ruts is "Register Cliff", Then as you head farther to the west on I-25 about 24 mi. or so west of Douglas there will be signs for "Ayers Park & Natural Bridge" Take the exit & go south towards the mountain range. It's about a two mile or so drive, At the end of this road you will find this Paradise in hiding just waiting to be discovered! For those of you that have been there,....I'm sure that the word "Awesome" is an understatement as a description. Especialy when the flowers are in bloom! I kind of stumbled onto this site, One minute you're driving through rough cattle grazzing land & then the next minute,..........."WHAM"! Your in a green paradise with alot of colorful flowers etc. It's alot of fun wading in the water under the rock arch! This is a very well upkept park! Then after that try the Fort Caspar museum & stockade in Casper Wy.,..........That's right!.......Caspar was the original name for Casper! Then from there take Hwy 220 south about 60 mi. until you get to the "Independence Rock" S.H.S. This is a realy neat site to visit also with all of those names, dates & info still etched on it from the mid 1800's. Make the climb to the top & see for yourselves. This is also part of the Oregon/Mormon etc. trails. Then from there, Go south or west on Hwy 220 for about 7 mi. to the "Devils Gate" Caution! There are alot of rattle snakes here in the warmer months so be very careful around here if you do walk towards the D.G. Next to this site there is a Mormon visitor center for "Martins Cove" The people here are very kind & full of great information! I've walked to the cove several times & walked through the sage brush on the Oregon/Mormon trail on my way back to the Visitor Center from the cove. There are concrete markers along this part of the trail where the ruts are also visible still to this day. The pony express used this part of the trail too! Also near the Devils Gate/Mormon, Martins Cove Visitor center on a side road leading to the east. There is an old grave site near a small pass along the road from way back when. The original cover stones & head stone is still intact. I forgot the history details about it. It's located on the south shoulder of the roadway & has steel railings surounding it to preserve it. Then there's "Split Rock", "Three Crossings", & "South Pass" just to name a few more! I'm sure that there are more sites that I hadn't mentioned like "Scotts Bluff Natl. Monument" But that's just a ways into Neb. I just thought that I'd mention this for those that may be interested! It's one thing to see these places in a Magazine & or Television, Which is good. But there's nothing like the feeling of being there & experiencing these sites in person & thinking about what it was realy like! PS; Diana, I dare you to drive Hwy 14 & Alt 14 over the Big Horn Mts. near the "Medicine Wheel" site. Very winding on the eastern slope & steep on the western slope! Either way, It WILL take your breath away! Ha Ha Ha! You can see a looooooooong ways from up there on either side of this mountain range! Just thought I'd razz ya about this one! Hope you have fun on your journey where ever it may lead you! Enjoy! "Happy Trails" Ken, Wisconsin ----- Original Message ----- From: Diana Johnson To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: New here with a question The Oregon Trail will probably be something I try to locate and go along. I take a pretty educational approach to traveling with our 4 kids. We like to learn about and see new things. Diana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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