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curvy roads are lots of fun, thanks for mentioning that Kip

 

 

 

it's saturday afternoon, the ChevronTexaco Metropolitan Opera

 

broadcast is on the air. Just wondering if any roadies like to

 

tune that in while motoring or at home, it's the longest

 

continuous sponsorship in broadcasting history since

 

1939 and Chevron pulls the plug after this season.

 

 

 

That's the way to do it, drive your old car down

 

the old road and tune in The Met just like people

 

have done for decades. It makes me want to go.

 

 

 

not quite so cranky perhaps, dave

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From: Jim Conkle [mailto:jim@cart66pf.org]

 

Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:21 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups. Com (AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com);

 

Route66@Yahoogroups. Com (route66@yahoogroups.com);

 

'RT66Flagstaff@yahoogroups.com'

 

Subject: Smithsonian

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well being the cat is out of the bag already I guess it is OK to announce

 

that YES we won the Smithsonian award.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks again to all of you that voted and supported us over the last few

 

years. When the information is in the Smithsonian Magazine I will let you

 

all know so that you can get copies. This is a great accomplishment and is

 

to be shared with everyone in the Route 66 Community.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I want to say how much all of your friendships have meant to me. With out

 

Guy and Dennis the 66 Caravan would have not been as successful. Because of

 

both of you the road is a better place and you have become icons yourselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And our best year is yet to happen, 2005! It will be even bigger and better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have Happy Holidays to all of you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

 

 

Executive Director & Chairman of the Board

 

 

 

California Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

 

 

P O Box 290066

 

 

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

 

 

760 617 3991 cell

 

 

 

760 868 3320

 

 

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

 

 

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I am having problems sending this out so I will try once more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

 

 

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California Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

 

 

P O Box 290066

 

 

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

 

 

760 617 3991 cell

 

 

 

760 868 3320

 

 

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

 

 

HYPERLINK "mailto:"jim@cart66pf.org

 

 

 

www.cart66pf.org

 

 

 

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From: Jim Conkle [mailto:jim@cart66pf.org]

 

Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:36 AM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups. Com (AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com);

 

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Subject: FW: Smithsonian

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Jim Conkle [mailto:jim@cart66pf.org]

 

Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:21 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups. Com (AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com);

 

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Subject: Smithsonian

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well being the cat is out of the bag already I guess it is OK to announce

 

that YES we won the Smithsonian award.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks again to all of you that voted and supported us over the last few

 

years. When the information is in the Smithsonian Magazine I will let you

 

all know so that you can get copies. This is a great accomplishment and is

 

to be shared with everyone in the Route 66 Community.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I want to say how much all of your friendships have meant to me. With out

 

Guy and Dennis the 66 Caravan would have not been as successful. Because of

 

both of you the road is a better place and you have become icons yourselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And our best year is yet to happen, 2005! It will be even bigger and better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have Happy Holidays to all of you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

 

 

Executive Director & Chairman of the Board

 

 

 

California Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

 

 

P O Box 290066

 

 

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

 

 

760 617 3991 cell

 

 

 

760 868 3320

 

 

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

 

 

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Guest roadmaven

Season's Greetings all! Jennifer & I spent Christmas afternoon taking

 

a quick road trip on ye old National Road/US 40/Route 40/Old National

 

Trails Highway...or as we simply call it here: 40. We turned it into

 

a nice little 70 mile venture from Indianapolis to Terre Haute. It

 

was quite a picturesque trip, as central Indiana received a nice 7"

 

layer of snow overnight.

 

 

 

Since this list is about roads and the various sights alongside them,

 

I want to encourage everyone to submit to the list some of your best

 

road pics. To accomplish this, simply go to our website at

 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/ From there, you can post

 

them in the Files section or the Photos section.

 

 

 

I'll get the ball rolling by posting in the Photos section a file

 

called Tulip Trestle. This thing is a well-kept secret even here in

 

Indiana. Tulip Trestle is a 2,295 foot, 157 foot tall structure that

 

rolls through a valley in the hills about 30 miles southwest of

 

Bloomington, IN. It took a little over a year to assemble the 2,856

 

tons of steel, which was completed in December 1906. It is owned by

 

the Indiana Railroad company and is still in use. Unless you witness

 

this beast in person, you can't totally appreciate what an awesome

 

structure this is. But what's even better about seeing it is the

 

twisty, hilly 2-laners you have to take to see it! Remember, you have

 

to go to the Yahoo Groups website to view. Enjoy!

 

 

 

Pat Bremer, List Maven

 

Speedway, IN

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No kidding!

 

Just north of there I did 322 from Harrisburg to State College in a

 

24' Penske truck full of sound gear! Coulda killed my navigator!

 

The roadside attractions there are of the memorial variety.

 

 

 

There are lots of places like that in PA.

 

Try Rt-6 up around Lake Wallenpaupack! Nice vacation area tho,

 

that lake has something like 30 miles of shoreline!

 

 

 

Stay Alert! Stay Alive! . . Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr

 

<hester_nec@y...> wrote:

 

> NOTE to anyone considering traveling U S 30 between

 

> Chambersburg and Breezewood and wishing to do it in a

 

> 1920's or 1930's car.

 

>

 

> Please leave a copy of your will and a pint of blood

 

> (for DNA id purposes) at the city hall in

 

> Chambersburg.

 

>

 

> You may need to leave something behind to identify

 

> you. I been driving for 50 years - and to be honest

 

> some of that part of 30 between Chambersburg and

 

> Breezewood scared the hell out of me - I was driving a

 

> 1986 Monte Carlo last time I went over it.

 

>

 

> Hudsonly,

 

> Alex B

 

>

 

> --- jenniferrt66 <jabremer66@a...> wrote:

 

> > > As for me I want more and I keep hoping for more.

 

> > > Just a sign against the sky does not do it for me,

 

> > > even if it is a cool old sign, like you, (and you,

 

> > and you)

 

> > > I have seen plenty of cool old signs already and

 

> > > most of us have a good idea what they look like.

 

> > > Removed from their context they resemble a

 

> > butterfly

 

> > > stuck on a pin in a cigar box, something to

 

> > collect.

 

> >

 

> > I still like to take them anyway - but one thing I

 

> > like to see (and

 

> > as you mentioned, it increases the totality of the

 

> > experience, not

 

> > just in 2D - is old video footage of road trips,

 

> > like in Highway

 

> > Hangouts. That's neat.

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> > > This sort of leads into the paragraph where

 

> > Jennifer wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > Hmmmmm...now that I think of it, I think that

 

> > if we want a "true

 

> > > vintage experience, we should drive the road

 

> > in an old car from

 

> > the

 

> > >

 

> > > 20's or 30's, and no cell phones, no coolers,

 

> > nothing that

 

> > anyone

 

> > > traveling back then wouldn't have had either!

 

> > Totally and fully

 

> > >

 

> > > recreate the real experience in an authentic

 

> > manner!

 

> > >

 

> > > Sounds to me like a script for another 'reality'

 

> > teevee show

 

> > > along the lines of Frontier House or Victorian

 

> > House, there

 

> > > are lots of the possibilities, Okies, Model T

 

> > Gypsy Campers,

 

> > > 1950s style hot rod culture is making a comeback

 

> > too.

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > ACK! The last thing I would want to do is suggest a

 

> > premise for

 

> > a "reality" show...I HATE so called reality shows

 

> > with a very intense

 

> > passion! I will spare you all my rant and forgive

 

> > me if any of you

 

> > love reality shows! I don't think a more ridiculous

 

> > genre has ever

 

> > been invented.

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> > > PS if someone asks me "what's your sign?

 

> > > there's a good chance I will say "NEON ! ! !"

 

> >

 

> > Good one! I doubt I'd ever be asked that question,

 

> > but if I am, can

 

> > I use that? LOL

 

> >

 

> > Jennifer

 

> >

 

> >

 

>

 

>

 

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I gotta throw in my $.02 worth concerning American rides that have

 

been bery, bery good to me.

 

 

 

1987 Monte Carlo SS 305 c.i. V8 -- Bought used in '95 with 56K

 

miles. I was second owner and just sold it last year with an

 

additional 100K miles added. No problems, sweet car.

 

 

 

1984 Buick LeSabre 305 c.i. V8 -- Bought new and sold 11 years later

 

with 214K on the clock. No major problems.

 

 

 

1979 Olds Cutlass V6 -- Bought new and sold 14 years later with

 

154K. Not a great engine but it just kept truckin' along.

 

 

 

1972 Olds Cutlass 350 c.i. V8 -- Bought new then given to our son 7

 

years later. He sold it 5 years later with 175K racked up. Great

 

engine!

 

 

 

Nothing else we ever bought stacked up to these cars (with the

 

exception of our cherished '77 Monte currently setting in the garage

 

with 25K miles added to the 35K it had when we found it in '92),

 

including a beautiful '55 Chevy hardtop bought in '62 with only 25K

 

on the clock. The 265 c.i. V8, Chevy's first, was terrible -- at

 

least the one we had was. Sold the car about 7 years later for

 

$350. I have since regretted that many, many times. Big

 

sigh....Bliss

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...>

 

wrote:

 

> Since we have hi milage claims for foreign tin,

 

> here's a few hi milages for "American" built cast

 

> iron.

 

>

 

> Between, say, the early 1970's to around 1990 I used

 

> to buy American Motors Ramblers, the 440 American

 

> model, station wagons. I'd find these cars with

 

> 80,000, 90,000 and one or two with at least 100,000

 

> miles on them - and buyable for around $75.

 

>

 

> 4 or 5 years later they would wind up in the local

 

> salvage yard with 225,000, 250,000 - and the last one

 

> I had, a 1969 440 wagon, had somewhere around 290,000

 

> miles on it. The only reason they went to salvage was

 

> the bodies were gone - the 232 seven main bearing 6

 

> cylinder engine was still going strong.

 

>

 

> My maintenance costs on these cars - somewhat less

 

> than $50 a year. Tho, I admit to replacing the upper

 

> trunions on the front end of the last one, the 1969,

 

> that cost me $175 for the parts - I did the job

 

> myself.

 

> I just never put any money into these cars - just ran

 

> them into the ground, then went and bought another

 

> one.

 

>

 

> The 1986 Monte Carlo I just sold - bought that one

 

> in the fall of 1998 with 112,000 miles on it and sold

 

> it 2 months back for $300 with 178,000 miles - only

 

> reason I didn't run higher milage was because I bought

 

> a 1987 Dodge truck off a tow company in MA for the

 

> outlandish sum of $1 - it had 107,000 miles on it when

 

> I got it, and it naturally got used more than the

 

> Monte Carlo - it currently has 135,000 miles on it.

 

>

 

> These cars, especially the Ramblers, were built in

 

> an era when they wereen't expected to be used by the

 

> same owner much more than 3 years or 50,000 miles,

 

> whichever came first.

 

>

 

> My current ride?? A 1992 Buick LeSabre which had

 

> 108,000 miles on it when I bought it last October.

 

> Well, I probably won't put much milage on it because

 

> the truck is used mostly for local use, so the Buick,

 

> like the Monte Carlo, will be used mainly for long

 

> trips.

 

>

 

> Happy - and Safe - travels in 2004. Maybe we'll get

 

> to see some of you roadies along the way this year.

 

>

 

> Hudsonly,

 

> Alex B

 

>

 

> --- Jane Zander <fr66ed@p...> wrote:

 

> > Try Honda. I've got a 1992 Honda Accord with 205,000

 

> > miles and still running strong and holds its resale

 

> > value. Fred

 

> > ----- Original Message -----

 

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> > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

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> > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: New Year's Roadie...

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Toyota? Isn't that made in a small Japanese town

 

> > called Maysville,

 

> > Ohio?

 

> >

 

> > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "roadmaven"

 

> > <roadmaven@a...>

 

> > wrote:

 

> > > Howdy folks...As soon as the Mrs. closes the

 

> > deal on a new Toyota

 

> > > this afternoon, we'll be hitting the road this

 

> > afternoon for a

 

> > > weekend cruise along 66 for a steak dinner in

 

> > Amarillo. No, not

 

> > > taking the new wheels! We "may" be seeing some

 

> > of you 66ers in the

 

> > > next few days, if you're around. Should be fun

 

> > ringing in the New

 

> > > Year tonight on 66 somewhere in Missouri. Hope

 

> > you all have a SAFE

 

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Guest Bob Reynolds

Well, here?¦s the write up from November?¦s day trip in

 

Kentucky. The same situation applies as last time. The photos are

 

in the ?§BabyBoomerBob?? folder.

 

 

 

CRUISIN?¦ THE BLUEGRASS

 

 

 

Back in November I took a weekend to go visit with my good

 

friend Kevin Redden in Maysville, Kentucky. Susan didn?¦t make this

 

one with me so it was something of a ?§boys?¦ weekend out???? Kevin

 

lives on Lexington Pike, a road that winds gracefully through an

 

older residential neighborhood, down the Ohio River bluffs to

 

downtown Maysville. It?¦s almost certainly an older alignment of US

 

62-68, but considering the name the locals give it, it?¦s very likely

 

much older than the US highway system. They call it the Buffalo

 

Trace.

 

 

 

We headed out Saturday morning toward Paris, checking out

 

old alignments of US 68 as we went. The first stop was Washington,

 

KY <Washington01-05>. I think this is the oldest town in the

 

state. It was founded in 1786 (just 10 years after Fort

 

Boonesborough) by local pioneer Simon Kenton. Since the main

 

highway passes it by, there is only local and tourist traffic easing

 

through town. We parked on the side of Main Street and walked

 

around, shooting pictures and enjoying the early morning solitude.

 

Kevin pointed out several old metal water pumps <Washington02> and

 

the oldest post office west of the Alleghenies <Washington04>.

 

 

 

I sighed as I stood in front of the site of the Broderick

 

Tavern, an early 19th century tavern and inn that had burned a

 

couple of years ago. Kevin, Susan and I ate there once, and it was

 

there that I first had the local dish known as hot brown. You take

 

toast, add white gravy, ham, and turkey, then cover with melted

 

cheddar cheese. Little did I know then that before the day was

 

over, I?¦d have hot brown like I?¦d never had it before??. A new

 

foundation was already in place, so something is going to be built

 

on the site. Luckily, knowing Washington, it won?¦t be a McDonald?¦s??

 

 

 

The last thing I did in Washington was to take pictures of

 

the original split between US 62 and 68 <Washington 06>, then a shot

 

down old 62 to the present split <Washington 07>. In the latter

 

picture, 68 goes left and right, and 62 goes right and straight

 

ahead.

 

 

 

We proceeded down US 68, making the occasional detour to

 

check out old alignments until we came to Blue Licks, where we

 

stopped to take pictures of the old Licking River bridge

 

(BlueLick01, 02>

 

 

 

We had hoped to get breakfast at Bridget?¦s Kitchen in

 

Millersburg, but when we got there the place had gone under?? We

 

paused long enough to take a picture of the stump of the old road

 

through town and a railroad bridge over Hinkston Creek.

 

 

 

On to Paris and breakfast. There?¦s really only one place in

 

Paris to eat for us and that?¦s Louie?¦s. It?¦s kind of out of the

 

way, which means not many tourists show up there. Nice and quiet

 

with lots of horse racing atmosphere <Louie?¦s01-03>.

 

 

 

We set out south on KY 627 driving through gently rolling

 

horse country. It was my intention to follow former US 227 (Now KY

 

627 and 388) to Richmond, then up US 25 to Clay?¦s Ferry. The best

 

laid schemes a?¦ mice and men?K

 

 

 

Our next stop was Fort Boonesborough State Park. We wanted

 

to see the original site, plus the replica of the fort, so we

 

followed the signs directing us onto a smaller road down to the main

 

part of the park. I winced as we passed the campground. Susan and

 

I had a rough time camping here 20 some odd years ago. All the good

 

spots were in the RV site. Tent campers (like us) had to settle for

 

mud flats near the river, with about 3 inches of mud covering the

 

bedrock. No place to drive stakes?? How we managed to keep our tent

 

up I can?¦t recall.

 

 

 

Kevin and I strolled around the original site of the fort

 

<Boonesborough01> for a while, then went on down the road looking

 

for the replica. After driving a while, we figured it was back on

 

KY 627, so we headed back, after promising to explore this road next

 

time. It seemed like a pretty neat drive.

 

 

 

We soon found the replica <Boonesborough02> and spent half

 

an hour or so checking it out. Nice and educational for the kids,

 

but nothing terribly spectacular. So off we headed south, looking

 

for KY 388. But when we reached the I-75 interchange I realized I?¦d

 

missed the turn?? So we went on to US 25, then drove south to

 

Richmond, .figuring to find the southern end of 388 there. No such

 

luck??

 

 

 

I decided to forego 388 and head back to Clay?¦s Ferry. We

 

found the bypass south of town and were heading north when I spotted

 

a sign ?§TO 388?? pointing to the right. Now my curiosity was up, so

 

I followed the road to its intersection with 388. Back to Richmond

 

we went, discovering the southern end of 388 wasn?¦t signed. Oh

 

well. So we returned to the bypass and followed the sign to 388,

 

heading north this time?? I was determined to drive 388 no matter

 

how many pieces I took it in??

 

 

 

The further north we drove the more things started looking

 

familiar. Well, sure enough when we passed the Ft. Boonesborough

 

campground, I realized we were back where we had started from?? Had

 

we not turned around to find the replica fort we would have wound up

 

in Richmond the way I had planned?? We had a good laugh over that one

 

??

 

 

 

By this time Kevin and I were looking for a place to get

 

lunch. There was a sign advertising a place on the Kentucky River

 

called ?§Halls on the River??, so we picked up KY 418 and stopped for

 

lunch <Halls>. The restaurant is on the site of Holder?¦s Tavern, an

 

old inn established in 1783. We sat down and I ordered hot brown.

 

Well, when it came, my eyes bugged out! The portion was enormous!

 

And the melted cheddar didn?¦t just cover the meat, it covered the

 

entire plate! I gave part of it to Kevin, but still ate so much I

 

didn?¦t want dessert?? I?¦m the kind of guy who doesn?¦t believe

 

there?¦s any such thing as ?§too much cheese??. But that day I *did*

 

have ?§enough????

 

 

 

All plans to approach Clay?¦s Ferry from the south were out

 

the window now, so we continued on KY 418 in the direction of

 

Lexington (where the bourbon is strong, the horses are good looking,

 

and all the basketball players are above average??).At Athens we

 

headed south on KY 1973 (Note: Kentucky highways with four digit

 

numbers are secondary roads). We soon came to US 25 and headed

 

south to the Clay?¦s Ferry Bridge.

 

 

 

The history of this bridge is interesting. It began as a

 

two lane bridge for US 25-421 in 1946. Over the years it has been

 

expanded to its present six lanes and its incorporation into I-75.

 

(For more information and some professional quality photos check out

 

http://www.kentuckyroads.com/images/claysferry/ ). It?¦s an

 

impressive structure leaping the gorge of the Kentucky River.

 

However?K.

 

 

 

Down in the gorge where nobody crossing on the interstate

 

can see, there?¦s a little gem. The pre-1946 bridge. 1869 vintage.

 

One lane. Wrought iron. In great shape! And it was *this* bridge

 

I?¦d come to see <Clay?¦s Ferry 01, 02>. We stopped by the remains of

 

a defunct honky tonk and I scrambled down to the river bank for a

 

photo op. As I drove across the bridge, the tires singing on the

 

metal grate beneath, I tried to imagine what it was like when this

 

was the main bridge between Lexington and points south. There must

 

have been a major bottleneck here. This stretch of 25 was part of

 

the eastern trunk of the Dixie Highway back then, so the traffic

 

couldn?¦t have been insignificant.

 

 

 

I turned around at the southern end of the old road (now KY

 

2328) and drove back across the old bridge and back to KY 1973,

 

heading north to Paris Pike. We passed several nice examples of the

 

old stone walls this region is famous for. (The brochure I got at

 

Halls says they are known locally as ?§slave fences??, but somehow I

 

doubt there are many, if any, remaining portions of these walls that

 

are antebellum.) <Wall 01-03>.

 

 

 

We were getting pretty tired by the time we reached Paris

 

Pike (US 27-68) and headed back to Maysville. The highway has

 

recently been expanded to four lanes, requiring the rebuilding of

 

some of the old walls. A few segments have been left alone, but now

 

sit in the middle of the median?? The widening was quite necessary

 

considering the volume of traffic this road carries, but at least it

 

was done with care to disturb the beauty and history as little as

 

possible. It was so well done it even won an award.

 

(http://roads.cahaltech.com/page.php3??

 

page=countryscene/parispike/parispike )

 

 

 

Kevin took one more picture for me before we got back. Just

 

north of Paris on US 68 is the Bourbon Drive In. Not really a

 

spectacular place either in structure or signage, but it is still in

 

operation! <drivein>

 

 

 

There?¦s still a lot more to check out around Maysville, but

 

that will have to wait for another road trip.

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Ack! I have no idea how my post got so messed up:( I wrote it with

 

Microsoft Word and copied it to the posting page. I think I'd

 

better not use Microsoft Word next time:(

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Greetings all...The first ever Chat Night will be TONIGHT, Monday,

 

Feb. 2 at 8pm EST. Tentatively scheduled is American Road Executive

 

Editor Thomas Repp. Thomas will be there to answer any of your

 

questions regarding the magazine. We can also swap some stories, road

 

news, and maybe even come up with a catchy name for Chat

 

Night....instead of Chat Night.

 

 

 

To access the chat room, you must go to the Yahoo Groups site at:

 

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Guest Butko, Brian A.

Great idea Ken, and good luck. If you ever head east, I've started a list of

 

mom & pops on the LH in PA: http://www.brianbutko.com/lh.lodging.html

 

 

 

A highlight would be the cabins at Lincoln Motor Court west of Bedford,

 

though there are only a dozen off them - pic here:

 

http://www.brianbutko.com/LH/LHmedia/LH-LMC.jpg

 

 

 

On a trip last summer, we went a few blocks south of the LH in Omaha, NE, to

 

stay at the Satellite Motel. It's a round building with pie-shaped rooms!

 

Built in 1966, right out of the Jetsons. It's on L St/US 275 @ S 60th, also

 

very close to I-80. Rooms start at about $35.

 

 

 

As for the entire US route, my Greetings book coming out in 2005 will have

 

maps for each state. For now, I 've posted some strip maps which show the

 

late-1920s route (note the highlighted Humboldt routing through Nevada is

 

the Victory Hwy, not the LH): http://www.brianbutko.com/lh.gr.tx.html

 

 

 

BB

 

 

 

 

 

From: "Ken" <thelandrunner@yahoo.com>

 

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:08:16 -0000

 

To: LincolnHighway@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [LincolnHighway] Favour Needed - LH Lodging Recommendations

 

 

 

Greetings All!

 

 

 

Am in the works in assisting a Norewegian tours along the Lincoln

 

Highway from CA. to Chicago starting in 2005. Would like to ask a

 

favour for Mom and Pop and/or chain motel recommendations from those

 

who have had experience staying at these locations. I am needing

 

locations that can accomodate a large group, as we will require

 

around 20 rooms. Please include any and all motel contact info if

 

possible. Here is the list of cities that I'm interested in acquiring

 

lodging recommendations and info on:

 

 

 

West Wendover, NV.

 

Salt Lake City, UT. and/or Ogden, UT.

 

Rock Springs, WY.

 

Laramie, WY.

 

North Platt, NE.

 

Kearney, NE.

 

Fremont, NE.

 

Cedar Rapids, IA.

 

 

 

Multiple location recommendations for each city is OK.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

 

 

God Bless and Happy Trails.

 

 

 

Ken Turmel

 

<http://www.postmarkart.com>

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LOL Pete! Yes.....guess I better not go to the "lost city" alone! he he

 

Something definitely worth checking out! Glenn, your site is

 

awesome.....haven't had time to look through all of it yet...but will soon.

 

Peter Harpin <phls@earthlink.net> wrote:Hey WW...no desert sojurns without

 

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Nicole wrote:

 

 

 

>

 

> Glenn-

 

> How interesting! I am in Bullhead City, not too far from there.....is

 

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> exactly to get there? That would certainly be worth checking out!!

 

> Glenn <glenninvegas@juno.com> wrote:St. Thomas, NV was flooded when

 

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> I have posted a brief history & some photos including the "main" road

 

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>

 

> www.lasvegasregion.com

 

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Russell S. Rein" <Ypsi-slim@juno.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> For barbeque and ice cream treats my highest praise goes to

 

> the Hickory Park in Ames, IA. Look for their Lincoln Highway

 

> Cigar metal advertising sign on the wall somewhere.

 

> http://www.hickorypark-bbq.com/history.html

 

> Their pork ribs are in my top ten all-time best.

 

 

 

Even though I have eaten there 2-3 times already, I nearly forgot about

 

HICKORY PARK in Ames, Iowa. I just forget that it's Lincoln Highway stuff,

 

since my sister lives there and we get a bunch of the relatives there during

 

the holidays. The old signs and decor are pretty nice in some of the rooms.

 

Great food. Also, leave plenty of room for dessert - Lots of good ho-made

 

stuff! :)

 

 

 

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St. Louis

 

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Hi Russell and Shellee!

 

 

 

Thanks for the heads up and personal recommendations. Much

 

appreciated, and am looking forward to the BBQ! The boys just love

 

that food! That location is now marked as a stop on the 2005 LH

 

Norwegian Harley Tour itinerary. Please keep these location stops

 

suggestions coming! Locations between San Francisco through Illinois.

 

 

 

God Bless and Happy Trail Stops.

 

 

 

Ken

 

 

 

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wrote:

 

> Russell S. Rein" <Ypsi-slim@j...> wrote:

 

>

 

> > For barbeque and ice cream treats my highest praise goes to

 

> > the Hickory Park in Ames, IA. Look for their Lincoln Highway

 

> > Cigar metal advertising sign on the wall somewhere.

 

> > http://www.hickorypark-bbq.com/history.html

 

> > Their pork ribs are in my top ten all-time best.

 

>

 

> Even though I have eaten there 2-3 times already, I nearly forgot

 

about

 

> HICKORY PARK in Ames, Iowa. I just forget that it's Lincoln Highway

 

stuff,

 

> since my sister lives there and we get a bunch of the relatives

 

there during

 

> the holidays. The old signs and decor are pretty nice in some of

 

the rooms.

 

> Great food. Also, leave plenty of room for dessert - Lots of good

 

ho-made

 

> stuff! :)

 

>

 

> Shellee G.

 

> St. Louis

 

> www.coralcourt.com

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CAN ANYONE OUT THERE HELP HERE.Jeff

 

---------------------- Forwarded Message: ---------------------

 

From: "Maureen Geoghegan" <maureengeoghegan@hotmail.com>

 

To: , pathfinder66@earthlink.net

 

Subject: Chicago Area Documentary

 

Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 12:14:55 -0600

 

 

 

Hi Jeff & Jim,

 

Thought you might be able to help out...

 

A friend of mine is doing a documentary on the south suburbs of Chicago for

 

WTTW/Channel 11 here. They are looking for images (photos, maps, postcards,

 

etc.) of:

 

1) Dixie Highway

 

2) early US Highway numbering system

 

 

 

If you or anyone you know might be able to provide these kinds of things for

 

the documentary (with credit, I'm sure) please send contact info to me & I

 

will pass it along. Jeff, if you want to put this out to your list groups

 

that would be fine. This is sort of a rush deal--they're looking to tie

 

this up this week.

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

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I'm back again with the third (and final) section of Colfax Ave (Denver's

 

"main street" and Highway 40) lodging in 1962. The farther west (higher

 

address number) motels catered to tourists basing their mountain day

 

trips out of Denver. A surprising number of these facilities still exist,

 

with many at the west end in decent condition, still serving the budget

 

minded tourist. Neon sign photos of many of these are posted in my

 

Webshots album http://community.webshots.com/album/107274159kirRwd..

 

 

 

1962 ROUTE 40 LODGING IN LAKEWOOD / GOLDEN COLORADO:

 

5600 West Colfax Ave. ~ Mesa Motor Inn ~ BE7-8891

 

5601 West Colfax Ave. ~ Red Wing Motel ~ BE7-8801

 

5637 West Colfax Ave. ~ Doll House Motel and Cafe ~ BE3-9706

 

5799 West Colfax Ave. ~ Westway Motel ~ 238-1261

 

5830 West Colfax Ave. ~ Sunset Village Motel ~ BE3-4601

 

6001 West Colfax Ave. ~ Rocky Mountain Motel ~ BE7-2746

 

6060 West Colfax Ave. ~ White Swan Motel ~ 238-1351

 

6100 West Colfax Ave. ~ Sharon Motel ~ BE3-1636

 

6140 West Colfax Ave. ~ Hamilton Courts ~ BE3-9816

 

6203 West Colfax Ave. ~ Lucky Strike Ranch-O-Tel ~ 233-9746

 

6218 West Colfax Ave. ~ Bugs Bunny Motel ~ BE7-0463

 

6560 West Colfax Ave. ~ Sundown Lounge and Auto Hotel ~ BE3-9951

 

7445 West Colfax Ave. ~ Blue Bow Motel ~ BE7-7850

 

7862 West Colfax Ave. ~ Lloyd's of Lakewood Motel ~ BE3-9839

 

7990 West Colfax Ave. ~ Montview Motel ~ BE3-6620

 

8150 West Colfax Ave. ~ Top Notch Motel ~ BE3-9719

 

8201 West Colfax Ave. ~ El Ray Motel ~ BE3-9527

 

8635 West Colfax Ave. ~ LaFonda Motel ~ BE7-0478

 

8803 West Colfax Ave. ~ Alpine Motel ~

 

8837 West Colfax Ave. ~ Homestead Motel ~ BE7-2777

 

9025 West Colfax Ave. ~ Trails End Motel ~ BE7-5434

 

9201 West Colfax Ave. ~ Park-O-Tel ~ BE7-2643

 

9501 West Colfax Ave. ~ Wagon Wheel Motel ~ BE7-5478

 

9595 West Colfax Ave. ~ Siesta Motel ~ BE3-4091

 

9600 West Colfax Ave. ~ Mallory Manor Motel ~ BE7-8866

 

9700 West Colfax Ave. ~ Estes Motel ~ BE8-0463

 

9800 West Colfax Ave. ~ Del Norte Motel ~ BE3-3096

 

9988 West Colfax Ave. ~ Monterey Motel ~ BE3-9868

 

10140 West Colfax Ave. ~ Idelwild Motel ~ BE3-9730

 

10210 West Colfax Ave. ~ Mosko's Holiday Motel ~ BE3-6541

 

11005 West Colfax Ave. ~ Desert Inn Motel ~ BE 7-7778

 

11080 West Colfax Ave. ~ Golden Hours Motel ~ BE 7-7725

 

11090 West Colfax Ave. ~ Foot of the Rockies Motel ~ BE 3-1904

 

11100 West Colfax Ave. ~ West 40 Motel ~ BE 3-4419

 

11101 West Colfax Ave. ~ Lone Star Court ~ BE 3-2875

 

11193 West Colfax Ave. ~ Cozy B Motel and Trailer Villa ~ BE 3-1220

 

11203 West Colfax Ave. ~ Broadmoor Motel ~ BE 3-1883

 

11301 West Colfax Ave. ~ Hunt's Motel ~ BE 7-8581

 

11611 West Colfax Ave. ~ Westland Motor Lodge ~ 233-9837

 

11700 West Colfax Ave. ~ Green Pine Motel ~ BE 7-5485

 

11701 West Colfax Ave. ~ El Jay Motel ~ BE 7-9900

 

11891 West Colfax Ave. ~ A Bar D Motel ~ BE 3-9970

 

12111 West Colfax Ave. ~ Stonewall Motel ~ BE 7-0033

 

14825 West Colfax Ave. ~ Mountain View Motel ~ CR 9-2091

 

15290 West Colfax Ave. ~ Stanley's Motel ~ CR 9-1382

 

15300 West Colfax Ave. ~ Gateway Motel ~ CR 9-9082

 

 

 

Walt Hackney

 

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Hey Maureen,

 

 

 

I collect Dixie Highway, and have postcards from Homewood, Chicago

 

Heights,

 

Crete, Steger, Momence, etc. I also have a newspaper article with a map

 

announcing the route of this Dixie Highway "dog-leg" south out of

 

Chicago.

 

Also have many Midwestern Automobile Green Books 1916 thru 1924 that

 

have the Dixie Highway driving directions for Illinois, plus some ads. I

 

also

 

have some early stuff on the US Highway numbering system.

 

 

 

The problem is that I am in Oklahoma City this week for work and won't

 

be back in Ypsilanti, MI till next Sunday or Monday, and it would take

 

some time to find this stuff. So realistically I wouldn't have anything

 

available till 2/15 or so. What's the rush?

 

 

 

ypsi-slim

 

 

 

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:59:31 +0000 rt66roadologist@comcast.net writes:

 

> CAN ANYONE OUT THERE HELP HERE.Jeff

 

> ---------------------- Forwarded Message: ---------------------

 

> From: "Maureen Geoghegan" <maureengeoghegan@hotmail.com>

 

> To: , pathfinder66@earthlink.net

 

> Subject: Chicago Area Documentary

 

> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 12:14:55 -0600

 

>

 

> Hi Jeff & Jim,

 

> Thought you might be able to help out...

 

> A friend of mine is doing a documentary on the south suburbs of

 

> Chicago for

 

> WTTW/Channel 11 here. They are looking for images (photos, maps,

 

> postcards,

 

> etc.) of:

 

> 1) Dixie Highway

 

> 2) early US Highway numbering system

 

>

 

> If you or anyone you know might be able to provide these kinds of

 

> things for

 

> the documentary (with credit, I'm sure) please send contact info to

 

> me & I

 

> will pass it along. Jeff, if you want to put this out to your list

 

> groups

 

> that would be fine. This is sort of a rush deal--they're looking to

 

> tie

 

> this up this week.

 

>

 

> Thanks,

 

> Maureen Geoghegan

 

>

 

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Pat, maybe you can give me an idea of what is or is not on topic.

 

 

 

Roads permeate our culture and like the trucking industry says

 

everything you have was brought by a truck. So in a sense just

 

about everything could conceivably be a roads topic.

 

 

 

Obviously this is a bit absurd but I do not have a clear idea of

 

what would be on topic. For me it's mostly roads, roads and

 

more roads.

 

 

 

As I see it, you pulled me over and issued a warning ticket

 

(SPEED LIMITS) for being negative about a group member and

 

I will not do this again.

 

 

 

To extend the SPEED LIMITS analogy would cruise control be

 

a lobotomy or Prozac perhaps?

 

 

 

Nah, cruise control is just plain old politeness and the golden rule

 

so just ask yourself what would Miss Manners or Fred Rogers do...

 

 

 

Anyways if you can define on and off topic for me I would appreciate it.

 

 

 

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Seems like a rather simplistic article without any

 

real punch, but judge for yourself:

 

 

 

Mustang ride on the boulevard of dreams

 

by nicholas rufford of the sunday times

 

 

 

"Get your kicks on Route 66," wrote Bobby Troup, a young American

 

songwriter in 1946. His melody became a hit for Nat King Cole and

 

helped immortalise a 2,448-mile length of highway stretching across

 

eight states from Chicago to the Pacific.

 

 

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,588-1017799,00.html

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "rlb0267" <rlb0267@y...> wrote:

 

> Seems like a rather simplistic article without any

 

> real punch, but judge for yourself:

 

>

 

> Mustang ride on the boulevard of dreams

 

> by nicholas rufford of the sunday times

 

>

 

>

 

> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,588-1017799,00.html

 

 

 

It's not an all bad article. There are a few errors (I suspect mainly

 

because he's a Brit not familiar with our country), but he gets at

 

least one thing about Route 66 -- it's a fantastic way to see the country.

 

 

 

I just wished he'd talked to more people. That's where the Mother Road

 

really starts to seduce people.

 

 

 

Ron Warnick

 

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Guest R.V. Droz

I'm just, umm, the picture, come on, they could not find a real one? At

 

least a better fake?

 

 

 

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Guest drivewdave@aol.com

the times 66 article was more interesting than a lot

 

of what shows up here (I know we are not supposed

 

to be negative but that's the way I feel about it)

 

 

 

it is good to good an outsiders point of view,

 

it is good to be reminded that we are living

 

in the wealthiest nation on earth, we don't

 

always hear that from our own media.

 

 

 

speaking of how others see us, the sunday paper

 

here in Seattle had an article about the local

 

political cartoonist David Horsey and three

 

others of his trade from other parts of the

 

nation who went to France to judge a contest

 

of art by teenagers. The theme was the U.S.

 

so we got a chance to see US through the eyes

 

of French adults filtered through their kids.

 

 

 

It was not a pretty sight as you can well

 

imagine, we are seen as fat and bullying.

 

 

 

The image that really got to me was so simple

 

and direct it was breathtaking, an 18 year old boy took

 

an actual baseball bat and a hardball and painted them,

 

the bat had the blue field with white stars down

 

at the knob end and the barrel was white with red

 

stripes that faded out towards the top.

 

 

 

the hardball was painted mostly blue with brown and

 

green and white, it was our planet as seen from space.

 

 

 

let's pull this thing out of the ditch and get it

 

back on topic sort of, so what ever happened to

 

the Pan-American Highway, I suppose they are

 

still waiting to complete the Darien Gap.

 

 

 

Seems to me the idea of leaving your driveway

 

and setting out for Tierra del Fuego could

 

be pretty darn romantic, it's nice to think

 

that you could anyways.

 

 

 

It's hard to imagine what it would be like to

 

experience this country if you came from a

 

place like England that is relatively small

 

and carries the evidence of eons of habitation.

 

 

 

Robert Pirsig in his book Zen and the Art of

 

Motorcycle Maintainance observed that the

 

farther west you go, the more the towns

 

spread out as more and more space is

 

available, back east the towns are

 

denser,in the little towns out west

 

the building lots are larger, land

 

was cheaper.

 

 

 

another passing thought, in this election

 

year most of the political conversation

 

is about hot topics that polarize people,

 

it would be nice to hear about something

 

that affects us all directly, namely

 

roads and automobiles.

 

 

 

the road system needs to be maintained

 

and improved and cars need to be made

 

more efficient and cleaner. as far as I

 

know, the candidates are not talking

 

about this or if they do it does not

 

get onto the teevee which amounts to

 

the same thing.

 

 

 

they probably have positions on this,

 

naturally they would have to be for

 

better roads and cars.

 

 

 

what to do, spend money for roads and

 

promise lower taxes, sounds good to me...

 

 

 

(three dots <...> indicates mild irony)

 

 

 

It would be nice to hear some campaign

 

promises regarding historic preservation

 

for highways, we call always dream can't we.

 

 

 

at least the times 66 article was a real road

 

report, I might even write one myself one day.

 

 

 

keep those road reports coming, it was nice

 

to hear the various reports of vintage

 

pavement a few weeks back, the one I was

 

writing of has a significant traffic load

 

due to new growth, I got the feeling that

 

the ones that others responded with were

 

roads that are not used as much.

 

 

 

how about sending in a report of the

 

oldest pavement with the most traffic,

 

this could be fun to know.

 

 

 

happy trails, Dave

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

I would say that it would either make it a bit harder, or not make a

 

difference...it will reemphasize Route 66's significance and will promote the

 

landscape across which Route 66 traverses, hopefully on a greater scale than it

 

has been promoted thus far. Those who travel 66 in Missouri will find a feast

 

for the eyes in the spring, with the Red Bud and Dogwood blooming and in the

 

fall, with the Oak, Maple and Sweetgum trees blazing in red, orange, yellow, and

 

purple, and promoting this aspect of traveling the mother road I only see as a

 

plus! Not to mention what can be found in the other 7 states!

 

 

 

For those interested in seeing this side of Route 66, join us for the 15th

 

Annual Route 66 Association of Missouri Motor Tour, September 10-12...visit our

 

website, www.Missouri66.org for details...the trees may not be changing color

 

yet, but it is still one interesting and beautiful ride! Tsingtao, Kip

 

 

 

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Subject: [ushwys] NEW U.S. 66 QUESTION

 

 

 

 

 

Here's a U.S. Route 66 question for us to speculate on.

 

 

 

Old Route 66 is rapidly on its way to being developed into a National

 

Historic/Scenic Byway in several states. (It already is in New Mexico).

 

There are some that are hoping that one day the entire length (or at least

 

most of it) will be so designated.

 

 

 

Here's the question: If that indeed comes to pass will Byway status

 

 

 

1) Make it easier to re-establish an official AASHTO U.S. Route designation?

 

 

 

2) Make it even more difficult to re-establish a U.S. Route designation?

 

 

 

3) Not make any difference one way or the other?

 

 

 

How 'bout it? Any ideas? Robert? Froggie? Stephan Taylor? Greg? Steve?

 

Mike? Anybody?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest timsteil

Howdy Friends:

 

 

 

Just wanted to take a sec to pass on a little news that might be of

 

interest.

 

 

 

First off, after a pile of maddening delays, my latest book, "Highway

 

61 Revisited" was officially released yesterday. While it is

 

available in all the normal online shops, it will probably take

 

another week or two before distribution channels get it out to

 

bookstores.

 

 

 

If I say so myself, it aint half bad. Features a photo by listy Kip

 

Welbourn, and well as great shots by my partner in crime Jim Luning,

 

and quite a few blurry shots of a thumb my myself.

 

 

 

Also, after two years with a crappy piece of cheese, I have a new

 

website up. It's miles beyond what was there before, and features all

 

sorts of neat stuff...including an interactive weblog, where you can

 

leave your thoughts, insults, and proposals for ongoing criminal

 

conspiracy.

 

 

 

www.timsteil.com should pulll it up, but depending how your browser

 

cache is set...you might get the old site. If so...use

 

www.timsteil.com/default.cfm...and you'll be there.

 

 

 

So...there it is. Stop by the new joint and have a look, leave a

 

message if you care to. And please pass the link/info along to anyone

 

who you think might care.

 

 

 

Thanks for your time. See you on the asphalt friends.

 

 

 

best

 

 

 

Tim

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Welcome! And please share some of your road trip stories!

 

 

 

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Hi George, same here.

 

BTW the warranty runs out at 40. I'm 41 on the 24th of this month.

 

Ughh! . . Chris

 

 

 

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> I was always one who liked to take the alternate or

 

> scenic route to get somewhere if I had time. I like

 

> going through the little town instead of bypassing

 

> them. I was also (for some strange reason) fascinated

 

> by old gas stations as a kid.(I turn 40 in October to

 

> give you an idea of my age group.)

 

>

 

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