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The Smithsonian has a cool, comprehensive web site on the exhibit, which

 

covers all forms of travel and related topics:

 

http://americanhistory.si.edu/onthemove

 

 

 

Ten pages on Route 66 start here, including a photo of the pavement just

 

before removal:

 

http://americanhistory.si.edu/onthemove/ex...ition_10_1.html

 

 

 

Brian Butko

 

http://www.brianbutko.com

 

 

 

 

 

YES, in fact the entire Route 66 display is on the slab. You can see photos

 

of it on our DC trip web site www.cart66pf.org

 

 

 

James M. Conkle

 

CEO

 

Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

P O Box 290066

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

760 617 3991 cell

 

760 868 3320

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

jim@cart66pf.org

 

www.cart66pf.org

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Pat [mailto:roadmaven@aol.com]

 

Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 9:51 AM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Smithsonian WAS: Retired pay phones

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jenniferrt66"

 

<jabremer66@a...> wrote:

 

The soda fountain now resides at the Smithsonian though!!

 

 

 

Is that slab of Route 66 roadbed on display now?

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Guest Shellee Graham

Hello folks,

 

 

 

Just wanted to let you know about the latest RIVER STYX issue.

 

 

 

River Styx (since 1975) is an international literary magazine/book that is

 

published 3 times a year.

 

 

 

Their latest issue,

 

which was # 66,

 

ended up being

 

about traveling

 

the road, motels, etc.

 

 

 

The editor Richard Newman asked me to submit photography for the issue. As

 

luck would have it, they used my close-up color photo of the Gardenway Motel

 

NEON sign on the front cover.

 

 

 

There are used 9 other b/w photographs including the OK Motel (Sapulpa, OK),

 

Rest Haven Court (Springfield, MO), the Wigwam Motel (Holbrook, AZ), Wagon

 

Wheel Motel (Cuba, MO), the Ozark Court sign, formerly of Stanton, MO and a

 

few of -- what else -- the Coral Court Motel. One of my favorite neon signs

 

is near Interstate 44/ St. James MO exit: "Motel 300 feet, 44 ultra modern

 

units." (don't you just love that sign?) A few of these images were

 

previously unpublished.

 

 

 

Within the pages are short stories, poems, drawings and photography about

 

the American roadside, some of it on US 66. Another photographer Quinta

 

Scott has 6 b/w photographs inside and a color photo of Roy's Motel & Cafe

 

graces the back cover.

 

 

 

IF you would like a copy of their 66th issue for $7, visit their website at:

 

http://www.riverstyx.org.. River Styx accepts unsolicited manuscripts and

 

artwork. All correspondence and payments can be sent to:

 

 

 

River Styx

 

634 North Grand Blvd.

 

Twelfth Floor

 

St. Louis, MO 63103

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Guest Chris

Yeah at the Pharmacy right next to the Art Deco weigh scale! . . .

 

Was that coin-op? There is a wooden phone booth at my local

 

watering hole but the owner isn't giving it up. The roadside glass

 

and metal booths are either vandalized or gone altogether. . .

 

 

 

How about the old pharmacy signs? Everyone had to have the

 

mortar and pestle in their logo. Some were animated!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jenniferrt66"

 

<jabremer66@a...> wrote:

 

> I agree! There used to be one of those sit down wooden

 

phone booths

 

> in the pharmacy of the town I grew up in. That pharmacy

 

though, was

 

> bought out by a local family, and changed from old dark,

 

woodwork

 

> pharmacy with a soda fountain to a bright new modern store,

 

then

 

> turned into a makeshift CVS until the new CVS could be built.

 

The

 

> soda fountain now resides at the Smithsonian though!!

 

>

 

> There's a wooden phone booth at the Tri County Truck Stop on

 

Route 66

 

> in Missouri. too cool.

 

>

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Chris"

 

<chris@e...> wrote:

 

> > Personally I would love to have one of those nice "sit down,

 

> > wooden phone booths" . . waxing nostalgically, Chris

 

> > ______________________________________________

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Retired pay phones find new life as novelty items

 

> > By Mark Niesse, Associated Press

 

> > ATLANTA N Old pay phones are selling like they're going out

 

of

 

> > style.

 

> >

 

> > Collectors and packrats have made an online rush to buy

 

> > BellSouth's boxy old pay phones after the Atlanta-based

 

> > company decided to pull out of a coin-operated phone

 

business

 

> > that had withered in the wireless age.

 

> >

 

> > "It's a novelty. You just don't usually see pay phones in

 

people's

 

> > homes," said Hugh Bowen, a retired Atlanta police officer

 

who

 

> > bought one of the 30-pound phones. "I thought it was so neat

 

> > and I always wanted one. When I saw this opportunity I

 

jumped

 

> > on it."

 

> >

 

> > So many people hurried to buy the phones after they were

 

> > offered over the Internet two months ago that they're now sold

 

> > out. About 500 orders for the $135 phones (shipping

 

included)

 

> > were filled, and now there's a waiting list of about 300 more

 

> > people.

 

> >

 

> >

 

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2004-02-29-pay-phone-dec

 

> > or_x.htm

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Hi Shellee,

 

 

 

Their site does not show your issue at this time. Can we still order the #66

 

issue? I look forward to seeing my copy and am sure that it will become a

 

collector's item.

 

 

 

See you in Tulsa.

 

 

 

James M. Conkle

 

CEO

 

Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

P O Box 290066

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

760 617 3991 cell

 

760 868 3320

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

jim@cart66pf.org

 

www.cart66pf.org

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Shellee Graham [mailto:SHELLEE66@EARTHLINK.NET]

 

Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:54 AM

 

To: American Road Egroup

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: River Styx - The Route 66 Issue

 

 

 

Hello folks,

 

 

 

Just wanted to let you know about the latest RIVER STYX issue.

 

 

 

River Styx (since 1975) is an international literary magazine/book that is

 

published 3 times a year.

 

 

 

Their latest issue,

 

which was # 66,

 

ended up being

 

about traveling

 

the road, motels, etc.

 

 

 

The editor Richard Newman asked me to submit photography for the issue. As

 

luck would have it, they used my close-up color photo of the Gardenway Motel

 

NEON sign on the front cover.

 

 

 

There are used 9 other b/w photographs including the OK Motel (Sapulpa, OK),

 

Rest Haven Court (Springfield, MO), the Wigwam Motel (Holbrook, AZ), Wagon

 

Wheel Motel (Cuba, MO), the Ozark Court sign, formerly of Stanton, MO and a

 

few of -- what else -- the Coral Court Motel. One of my favorite neon signs

 

is near Interstate 44/ St. James MO exit: "Motel 300 feet, 44 ultra modern

 

units." (don't you just love that sign?) A few of these images were

 

previously unpublished.

 

 

 

Within the pages are short stories, poems, drawings and photography about

 

the American roadside, some of it on US 66. Another photographer Quinta

 

Scott has 6 b/w photographs inside and a color photo of Roy's Motel & Cafe

 

graces the back cover.

 

 

 

IF you would like a copy of their 66th issue for $7, visit their website at:

 

http://www.riverstyx.org.. River Styx accepts unsolicited manuscripts and

 

artwork. All correspondence and payments can be sent to:

 

 

 

River Styx

 

634 North Grand Blvd.

 

Twelfth Floor

 

St. Louis, MO 63103

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com

 

 

 

To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH

 

YOUR ORDER TODAY!

 

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1 year (4 issues) for $15.95

 

(save $3.85 off the newsstand price!)

 

2 years (8 issues) for $27.95

 

(save $11.65 off the newsstand price!)

 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks Brian,

 

 

 

Having seen the display and now viewing the web site I truly feel it is a

 

GREAT piece of art work. Thank you very much for giving us that site info.

 

 

 

James M. Conkle

 

CEO

 

Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

P O Box 290066

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

760 617 3991 cell

 

760 868 3320

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

jim@cart66pf.org

 

www.cart66pf.org

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Butko, Brian A. [mailto:babutko@hswp.org]

 

Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:54 AM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Smithsonian & 66

 

 

 

The Smithsonian has a cool, comprehensive web site on the exhibit, which

 

covers all forms of travel and related topics:

 

http://americanhistory.si.edu/onthemove

 

 

 

Ten pages on Route 66 start here, including a photo of the pavement just

 

before removal:

 

http://americanhistory.si.edu/onthemove/ex...ition_10_1.html

 

 

 

Brian Butko

 

http://www.brianbutko.com

 

 

 

 

 

YES, in fact the entire Route 66 display is on the slab. You can see photos

 

of it on our DC trip web site www.cart66pf.org

 

 

 

James M. Conkle

 

CEO

 

Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

P O Box 290066

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

760 617 3991 cell

 

760 868 3320

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

jim@cart66pf.org

 

www.cart66pf.org

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Pat [mailto:roadmaven@aol.com]

 

Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 9:51 AM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Smithsonian WAS: Retired pay phones

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jenniferrt66"

 

<jabremer66@a...> wrote:

 

The soda fountain now resides at the Smithsonian though!!

 

 

 

Is that slab of Route 66 roadbed on display now?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com

 

 

 

To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH

 

YOUR ORDER TODAY!

 

Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168

 

SUBSCRIPTION RATES:

 

1 year (4 issues) for $15.95

 

(save $3.85 off the newsstand price!)

 

2 years (8 issues) for $27.95

 

(save $11.65 off the newsstand price!)

 

 

 

 

 

For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com

 

 

 

To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to:

 

AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it

 

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

Well I, for one, am looking forward to it, sharing it with my friends down

 

south, and telling the good folks at da Biscuit to save a cold one for ja!

 

Tsingtao, Kip

 

 

 

Speaking of Highway 61 Revisited, has anyone seen the Dylan ad for

 

Victoria's Secret? Interesting...

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: "timsteil" <tjsteil@aol.com>

 

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:34 AM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] a bit of roadie spam

 

 

 

 

 

> Howdy Friends:

 

>

 

> Just wanted to take a sec to pass on a little news that might be of

 

> interest.

 

>

 

> First off, after a pile of maddening delays, my latest book, "Highway

 

> 61 Revisited" was officially released yesterday. While it is

 

> available in all the normal online shops, it will probably take

 

> another week or two before distribution channels get it out to

 

> bookstores.

 

>

 

> If I say so myself, it aint half bad. Features a photo by listy Kip

 

> Welbourn, and well as great shots by my partner in crime Jim Luning,

 

> and quite a few blurry shots of a thumb my myself.

 

>

 

> Also, after two years with a crappy piece of cheese, I have a new

 

> website up. It's miles beyond what was there before, and features all

 

> sorts of neat stuff...including an interactive weblog, where you can

 

> leave your thoughts, insults, and proposals for ongoing criminal

 

> conspiracy.

 

>

 

> www.timsteil.com should pulll it up, but depending how your browser

 

> cache is set...you might get the old site. If so...use

 

> www.timsteil.com/default.cfm...and you'll be there.

 

>

 

> So...there it is. Stop by the new joint and have a look, leave a

 

> message if you care to. And please pass the link/info along to anyone

 

> who you think might care.

 

>

 

> Thanks for your time. See you on the asphalt friends.

 

>

 

> best

 

>

 

> Tim

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com

 

>

 

> To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434

 

WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY!

 

> Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA

 

98046-3168

 

> SUBSCRIPTION RATES:

 

> 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95

 

> (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!)

 

> 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95

 

> (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!)

 

>

 

>

 

> For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com

 

>

 

> To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to:

 

AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it

 

to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

>

 

>

 

> Yahoo! Groups Links

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

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Guest rlb0267

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...>

 

wrote:

 

> Rick,

 

>

 

> 1934 Missouri map and 1941 AAA Tour Guide (Western

 

> Editon) show 50 coming in on Chouteau, then

 

> Manchester.

 

 

 

On a 1958-59 AAA St. Louis & Vicinity map, Missouri 100 is aligned

 

with Manchester and Chouteau, while U.S. 50 multiplexes with U.S. 66

 

on New Watson Road and through Pacific, Mo., a path it mirrors today

 

on I-44.

 

 

 

> In Wendell Trogdon's book, Lonely Is the Road, he

 

> puts U S 50 crossing the Mississippi on I-255, then

 

> leaving the interstate and following Lindberg Avenue

 

> across the SW ede of the city, before merging with

 

> I-44, heading west and leaving I-44 about 30 miles

 

> from St. Louis.

 

 

 

That is the current alignment, the last I was on it a year ago. It

 

seems to be rather antiquated routing for 50 to leave the Interstates

 

for that South Lindbergh Boulevard stretch, rather than simply

 

multiplexing with the parallel I-255 and I-270. (However, not

 

multiplexing U.S. 50, 61 and 67 with those Interstates certainly

 

makes for simpler interchange signage.) On the 1958-59 map, South

 

Lindbergh served as the path of Bypass 50, which crossed the

 

Mississippi on the Jefferson Barracks bridge, when the main line

 

still was routed through downtown.

 

 

 

> A search of other mapping sites, such as Streets and

 

> Trips and MapQuest do not show a U S 50 designation

 

> inside the city. My guess would be the route got

 

> buried under the madness called Interstates.

 

 

 

In contrast, Yahoo Maps at maps.yahoo.com does show 50 on Lindbergh.

 

It's odd that Mapquest doesn't mark Lindbergh as 50 at all, no matter

 

what magnification. Then again, when you think about it from a

 

programming/routing perspective, I don't suppose there's any

 

practical value to incorporating that information. The program/map

 

will either give the street name to direct you to a local address or

 

direct you through the area on an Interstate.

 

 

 

 

 

Rick

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Guest roadmaven@aol.com

My apologies for missing these notes last months folks. I was in the middle

 

of a job search and planning vacation, so thar's my excuse. ;-) I already

 

freed up the space "Arab Person" used and dropped a MOAB on his messages.

 

However, I didn't have a chance to axe him since he was already being

 

"bounced" by Yahoo Groups for having e-mail returned to them. However, I did

 

execute a successful sortie on our other person who posted some less than

 

flattering links to the files section today.

 

 

 

Pat B.

 

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Guest Shellee Graham

Hey folks,

 

 

 

With our CCM documentary nearly completed AND my web design class asking for

 

web development, I designed some Coral Court designs and they have been

 

added to shirts, bibs, clocks, frisbees, journals, etc.

 

 

 

This could be fun for some of you. There's stuff for the kids, teenagers,

 

and regular folks like us. :)

 

 

 

Check out the THONG, the boxer shorts. There are various designs on the

 

BACKSIDES of many of these products. So be sure to really look over these

 

items and give me your feedback.

 

 

 

Thank you all for looking. I appreciate your feedback. (I'll probably add a

 

poster before too long...)

 

 

 

Shellee Graham

 

(a.k.a.

 

that Coral

 

Court gal)

 

 

 

http://www.cafeshops.com/coralcourt

 

 

 

P.S. Email me privately to see my website that I did for school

 

incorporating some of the new merchandise...

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Guest Chris

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, George Ashburn

 

<gsa777743215@y...> wrote:

 

>

 

> --- william cashman <theoakman@e...> wrote:

 

> > ----- Original Message -----

 

> > From: George Ashburn

 

> >

 

> > I was always one who liked to take the alternate or

 

> > scenic route to get somewhere if I had time. I like

 

> > going through the little town instead of bypassing

 

> > them. I was also (for some strange reason)

 

> > fascinated

 

> > by old gas stations as a kid.(I turn 40 in October

 

> > to

 

> > give you an idea of my age group.)

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Hi George....

 

> >

 

> > Me too!! We manage to get in two or three 5-6 week

 

> > RV trips a year and always stay on the back roads as

 

> > much as possible. I use a GPS and DeLorme mapping

 

> > program to plan our trips and we have gotten into

 

> > some interesting places.....

 

>

 

> I haven't used a GPS or a mapping program yet. I was

 

> blessed with "Having a Compass & GPS in my brain" and

 

> "a nose for roadside restaurants & a good mom-and-pop

 

> motel". (Okay, once in a while, I cheat by using an

 

> Auto Club Guide. But I have always had the instinct to

 

> find just the right place.)

 

>

 

> My Number One Rule; BRING LOTS OF GOOD TRAVELING

 

MUSIC

 

> (But I've heard good things about XM.) In my case,

 

> it's CD's I've created that consist of either Classic

 

> Hard Rock (Van Halen [David Lee Roth, of course.],

 

> Metallica, Eagles, AC/DC, etc.) My Idea of Good

 

> Country (Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash,

 

> Charlie Daniels, Hank Jr. etc.) and even a little Old

 

> School Jazz, Blues, "Rat Pack" & "Mob Music" (Sinatra,

 

> Louis Prima, etc.) thrown in.

 

>

 

>

 

> =====

 

> George Ashburn -

 

http://www.geocities.com/jamdawg1/index.html

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

Yup George,

 

Hank Jr will get you down the road. I'm a Metallica fan and Van

 

Halen, (they are out again as Van Haggar, go figure). That's quite

 

the musical salad you listen to.

 

Santa brought us the 300 CD jukebox this year. It's about half full

 

so far. A variety of music, suitable for driving and other activities.

 

Now if only I could get it in the dash of my pickup! . . . Chris

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Guest Chris

Well documented gallery of hand-painted & hand-crafted signs.

 

Check this out! . . . Chris

 

__________________________________________

 

 

 

 

 

"Along with just about everything else that incorporates

 

typography, I've been collecting snapshots of hand-painted and

 

hand-crafted signs for quite some time. However, it was only

 

about two years ago when I purchased a digital camera that I

 

consciously began to document my visual landscape in any

 

organized manner." . . "Not all of the signs in this exhibit consist

 

of beautifully painted letterforms. Some are down-right awful."

 

Enjoy the show! - Art

 

 

 

http://www.norelevance.com/signs/index.html

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Guest Chris

Nifty e-newsletter I get. Must be some ephemera nuts like me in

 

the American Road group. Items here tend to lean that way. Did I

 

already get this in a tip from you guys? . . . Chris

 

__________________________________________

 

 

 

 

 

Antiques & Collecting Newsletter is a worthwhile read,

 

http://collectingbuzz.com

 

a few ditties from this week.

 

 

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

HISTORY BUFF'S HOME PAGE

 

http://www.historybuff.com

 

 

 

 

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

NATIONAL POSTCARD WEEK

 

http://postcardsfromtheroad.net

 

 

 

 

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

INTERNATIONAL ROUTE 66 FESTIVAL

 

http://www.tulsa66festival.com

 

 

 

 

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

SAM'S TOYBOX

 

http://www.samstoybox.com

 

 

 

 

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

UNUSUAL JUNK JOURNAL

 

http://www.norelevance.com/index.shtml

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Guest Alex Burr

He was the type of person if you only met him once,

 

as I did, 50 years ago in 1953, you didn't forget the

 

gentleman.

 

 

 

Safe journey home, gentle man.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- Lulupic66@aol.com wrote:

 

> I got this message from my Route 66 group and I

 

> thought I would pass on this

 

> sorry news,

 

>

 

> Lulu

 

>

 

> << Good evening to all my roadie friends.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> I have some very sad news to report to you. This

 

> morning Juan Delgadillo at

 

> the age of 88 passed a way from a heart attack.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Services will be Tuesday morning at 10 a.m. at the

 

> Catholic Church in

 

> Seligman. Please send your cards and condolences to

 

> the family at the

 

> SnowCap.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> There was no finer, funnier or friendlier person to

 

> ever walk this earth. It

 

> was a great pleasure and honor to know this man and

 

> his friendship to all of

 

> us that knew him.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> I will be going to the services leaving very early

 

> on Tuesday morning is

 

> anyone would like to ride over with me from

 

> Southern California. Let me know

 

> via cell phone or e-mail. I will be in Indiana from

 

> Saturday till Monday

 

> getting back late afternoon. I will need to drive

 

> over and back the same day

 

> as I leave for Tulsa on Wednesday.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> James M Conkle

 

>

 

> Executive Director & Chairman of the Board

 

>

 

> California Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

>

 

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Wish we'd gotten to meet cha, share a few stories, laugh at your antics, let

 

you meet our little girl...oh well, wherever you are I know you'll be

 

keeping an eye on the road, the snow cap, your brother and the rest of

 

us...when you pass through that Santa Monica Pier arch in the sky, look

 

around for a nice old guy wearing a Cardinal Cap named Joe...he'd love to

 

meetcha...Tsingtao, Kip

 

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To: "Route66@Yahoogroups. Com" <route66@yahoogroups.com>;

 

"AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups. Com" <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

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> Good evening to all my roadie friends.

 

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> I have some very sad news to report to you. This morning Juan Delgadillo

 

at

 

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> There was no finer, funnier or friendlier person to ever walk this earth.

 

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of

 

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know

 

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> getting back late afternoon. I will need to drive over and back the same

 

day

 

> as I leave for Tulsa on Wednesday.

 

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I e-mailed Angel's shop about memorials to Juan, and here is the

 

response I got.

 

 

 

<start clip>

 

 

 

Thank you so much for inquiring. Juan's family would appreciate all

 

donation to be made to the Historic Route 66 Association of Arizona,

 

Box 66, Kingman, AZ 86402. His family will continue to keep the

 

tradition of the Snow Cap going and hope you will continue to stop

 

when you are through. Thank you.

 

 

 

Mirna on Route 66

 

 

 

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Tulsa, OK

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OK ... so I am trying something new on my Route 66 for Kids Web site. Two new

 

things, actually.

 

 

 

First: I set up a PayPal account today, so -- theoretically -- I should be able

 

to receive

 

payments online for the things you buy. A small surcharge will be added to items

 

paid for in this way to cover the cost of doing business with PayPal.

 

 

 

Second: This is the fun part: I put up an online gallery where you can buy

 

notecards

 

made from some of my Route 66 photos. I don't have my whole photo collection on

 

there, for various reasons, but I put up some 43 images I thought were decent

 

and

 

might make interesting notecards. There are several winter scenes that could be

 

good

 

for Christmas cards (which is exactly why I shot them).

 

 

 

If anybody's interested in having a look, here's the addy:

 

 

 

http://www.kidson66.com/notecards.html

 

 

 

I doubt I'll get rich off of this, but hopefully it will cover some of my

 

expenses in

 

maintaining umpty-three different Web sites.

 

 

 

Emily

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Ross" <pathfinder66@e...>

 

wrote:

 

> Fred,

 

>

 

> While on the surface returning Route 66 to an official US highway

 

might seem a worthy endeavor, it would bring destruction to the

 

roadbed like we've only imagined in our worst nightmares. Though I am

 

still confident this will never occur, if by some bureaucratic

 

debacle it did, the first government mandate would be to bring every

 

stretch of existing first generation paving up to standards, and I

 

don't have to tell you what that means.

 

>

 

> Frankly, continuing with your crusade is potentially harmful to the

 

future of the road. We have enough on our hands trying to keep

 

transportation departments in check. The last thing we need are more

 

battlefronts like US 281 Spur taking place from one end of the

 

highway to the other. I don't want that and, frankly, I don't

 

understand why you or anyone else would.

 

>

 

> Luckily, the complex mix of jurisdictions, federal highway policy,

 

the present numbering scheme, the trend toward reducing the number of

 

US highways in favor of Interstates and state highways (not a good

 

thing, but that's another issue), and funding issues all but

 

guarantee this will never happen.

 

>

 

> Sorry to be blunt, but you could do a lot more for Route 66 by

 

redirecting your efforts toward getting as much surviving historic

 

roadbed on the National Register as possible rather than following a

 

path that can only lead to its destruction. I hope you will give this

 

some thought.

 

>

 

> Jim R.

 

>

 

>

 

I disagree. I don't see why putting up signs directing traffic will

 

cause the highway departments to want to rebuild route 66. We are

 

not asking for that. We just want to be able to follow the current

 

route without getting lost. Most of the signs would be on the

 

interstate, and have signs to historic sections from there. This

 

wouldn't stop having the route from being preserved.

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Guest Rich Rheingold

My thanks to Randy Garbin for posting this comment on his web site.

 

Roadside Recommends: The Yellowstone Trail Organization

 

 

 

Recently, while double-checking our "Approved Links" section, we

 

learned that Rich Rheingold, one of the founders of the Route 20

 

Association, has decided to align his efforts with the newly formed

 

Yellowstone Trail Organization.

 

 

 

According to the YTO's website:

 

 

 

In 1912, a group of small town businessmen in South Dakota

 

undertook an ambitious project to create a useful automobile route,

 

the Yellowstone Trail, across America. This was at a time when roads

 

weren't marked, there were few maps and slippery mud was the usual

 

road surface. The Yellowstone Trail Association located a route,

 

motivated road improvements, produced maps and folders to guide the

 

traveler, and promoted tourism along its length. It became a leader

 

in stimulating tourist travel to the Northwest and motivating good

 

roads across America. The Lincoln Highway Association, formed in

 

1913 by industrialists, created a similar route across the U. S.,

 

but used big organizational and public relation budgets.

 

 

 

Today, almost all of the route of the Yellowstone Trail is on

 

slower, less traveled roads. Some sections of the Trail, especially

 

in the West, have remained little changed and are a delight to visit.

 

 

 

For more info, visit http://www.yellowstonetrail.org/

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Guest Pat B.

Just an FYI folks, the poster who wrote this note left the group

 

after they posted. No need to reply and start it up again...he won't

 

answer.

 

 

 

Pat Bremer

 

AR List Host

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "kendancy66" <kendancy@h...>

 

wrote:

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Ross"

 

<pathfinder66@e...>

 

> wrote:

 

> > Fred,

 

> >

 

> > While on the surface returning Route 66 to an official US

 

highway

 

> might seem a worthy endeavor, it would bring destruction to the

 

> roadbed like we've only imagined in our worst nightmares. Though I

 

am

 

> still confident this will never occur, if by some bureaucratic

 

> debacle it did, the first government mandate would be to bring

 

every

 

> stretch of existing first generation paving up to standards, and I

 

> don't have to tell you what that means.

 

> >

 

> > Frankly, continuing with your crusade is potentially harmful to

 

the

 

> future of the road. We have enough on our hands trying to keep

 

> transportation departments in check. The last thing we need are

 

more

 

> battlefronts like US 281 Spur taking place from one end of the

 

> highway to the other. I don't want that and, frankly, I don't

 

> understand why you or anyone else would.

 

> >

 

> > Luckily, the complex mix of jurisdictions, federal highway

 

policy,

 

> the present numbering scheme, the trend toward reducing the number

 

of

 

> US highways in favor of Interstates and state highways (not a good

 

> thing, but that's another issue), and funding issues all but

 

> guarantee this will never happen.

 

> >

 

> > Sorry to be blunt, but you could do a lot more for Route 66 by

 

> redirecting your efforts toward getting as much surviving historic

 

> roadbed on the National Register as possible rather than following

 

a

 

> path that can only lead to its destruction. I hope you will give

 

this

 

> some thought.

 

> >

 

> > Jim R.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> I disagree. I don't see why putting up signs directing traffic

 

will

 

> cause the highway departments to want to rebuild route 66. We are

 

> not asking for that. We just want to be able to follow the

 

current

 

> route without getting lost. Most of the signs would be on the

 

> interstate, and have signs to historic sections from there. This

 

> wouldn't stop having the route from being preserved.

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It has become a tradition for us to stop in Glenrio and have a big

 

frosty one while standing in the middle of '66.....Bliss

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Rudyard Welborn"

 

<r.Welborn@w...> wrote:

 

> We saw a herd of horses with a Bar S mark on them; also a herd of

 

goats...a

 

> few birds, and a nice little wasp nest at the gas station...I for

 

one find

 

> Texas to be extremely cool from the lonesome-ness of Glenrio, to

 

the nice

 

> folks at the midpoint in Adrian, to Dot at the mini museum, to the

 

Big Texan

 

> in Amarillo, to the literally multipurpose building in Alanreed, to

 

the

 

> folks at the Barbed wire museum in McClean, to the good folks in

 

Shamrock

 

> who brought the U-Drop back in all its glory! Tsingtao, Kip

 

>

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

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> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 8:24 PM

 

> Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] TEXAS BORING? was Re: stolen signs....

 

(fwd)

 

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>

 

> > The dogs were there last June along with a horse. I saw no goats

 

but maybe

 

> > the horse was a summer season substitute.

 

> >

 

> > -----Original Message-----

 

> > From: rt66roadologist@c... [mailto:rt66roadologist@c...]

 

> > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 1:51 PM

 

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> > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] TEXAS BORING? was Re: stolen signs....

 

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> > Jerry I SAW ONLY GOATS NO DOGS SO WE NOW HAVE THE GOATS OF

 

GLENRIO.JEFF

 

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> > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] TEXAS BORING? was Re: stolen signs....

 

> > Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:50:38 +0000

 

> >

 

> > I must disagree with Mike's statement that Route 66 in the Texas

 

Panhandle

 

> > is "boring".

 

> >

 

> > For example: The extensive remains of portland concrete east of

 

Mclean!

 

> > The restored Tower Conoco/Udrop inn (with fantastic neon) in

 

Shamrock!

 

> > The Devil's Rope/Route 66 Museum in McLean, and their restored

 

Phillips 66

 

> > station!

 

> > Delbert and Ruth Trew!!!!!

 

> > Drivable old dirt 66 between McLean and Alanreed (plus the old

 

gas station

 

> > in Alanreed)!

 

> > The Route 66 rest Area with Rte 66 Themed exhibits and play Areas!

 

> > The driveable remnants of the Jericho Gap!

 

> > The Giant Cross in Groom!

 

> > Amarillo Blvds old motels and relics!

 

> > West 6th St's antique stores, etc!

 

> > Cadillac Ranch (not on 66 but close enough)!

 

> > The restored Magnolia station in Vega!

 

> > The Midpoint Cafe in Adrian!

 

> > The barking dogs in Glenrio! (tounge in cheek mode)

 

> > And so much more I've not mentioned (including more wonderful

 

people)!

 

> >

 

> > Enjoying Route 66 depends on your state of mind. If you go in

 

expecting a

 

> > section to be "Boring" it will be.

 

> >

 

> > Jerry

 

> >

 

> > Message: 6

 

> > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 07:39:16 -0700 (PDT)

 

> > From: mike shadman

 

> > Subject: Re: Stolen Signs; was Reinventing Route 66

 

> >

 

> > A lot of US Routes are exciting too! 66 is boring in some places

 

like the

 

> > Texas Panhandle. You can take exciting trips on almost any US

 

Route and

 

> have

 

> > a continous designated highway. 66 isn't, it's small segments

 

here and

 

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> It has become a tradition for us to stop in Glenrio and have a big

 

> frosty one while standing in the middle of '66.....Bliss

 

 

 

Last time I stopped in Glenrio, I met the head of security (or maybe he was the

 

mayor)

 

... a big, brown hound mix who basically warned me not to try anything stupid,

 

kept

 

an eye on me while I was there, and eventually decided I was all right and -- I

 

swear I

 

am not making this up -- volunteered to pose for a photograph.

 

 

 

Really. As soon as I held up the camera and turned toward the dog, he looked at

 

me

 

for a minute, then trotted over to a vacant lot, sat down, and looked at me as

 

if to

 

say, "And now, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my closeup." It was really funny.

 

 

 

I thought about petting him, but it was a perfect morning, where the road was

 

just

 

doing that surreal magic-road-to-the-past thing that it's prone to do under a

 

dazzling blue sky on a Sunday morning in Glenrio, and I didn't want to break the

 

spell, so I just said goodbye and went on my way.

 

 

 

Emily Priddy

 

Tulsa, OK

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Jim & Allen,

 

 

 

The name of the book you're probably thinking about is "Route 66 Across

 

Arizona" by Richard & Sherry Mangum. Publisher is Hexagon Press out of

 

Flagstaff.

 

The book is ISBN 1-891517-66-x. We picked it up about a year ago at the gas

 

station out at the Painted Desert entrance.

 

 

 

I can't really attest to it's total accuracy, but from what we did use of it,

 

it was on target and is put together very well.

 

 

 

 

 

Pat

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Guest Hank Hallmark

Thanks for all your thoughts and good wishes.

 

 

 

I'm sending an update because of the response I got from so many of you and

 

the change in--I hope--my prognosis. Please forgive the method I chose to

 

inform you....

 

 

 

I promise this will not be a continuous thing!!!

 

 

 

FYI: I got an "eleventh hour" 2nd opinion and put off the operation until

 

further checks--a moving x-ray--can be completed.

 

 

 

I am "on the mend" such as it is--my arm may be permanently "mal-aligned" as

 

they say. That and the continued weakness in my right side may put an end

 

to my "bike riding" unless I care to "ride bitch"!!!!

 

 

 

I tried to ride my sportster 4-5 weeks ago just to see how--and if--I could

 

handle it. I wasn't pleased and my attorney wasn't either when he heard.

 

He asked me to stay off the bike until the lawsuit was settled--that could

 

take a year or so.

 

 

 

I sold my Goldwing Sunday and there is a vacant space in the garage--and I

 

was a little depressed. However, not for long because there are still

 

"honey do" lists around my house....

 

 

 

I found out my wife Kris was worried each time I went out she just didn't

 

say anything because she understood I enjoyed riding so much--100,000 miles

 

in about 8 years. My longest was a 12,000 miles tour of the four corners of

 

the USA--by myself for 30 days. I had a ball--even in inclement

 

weather!!!!!

 

 

 

Also, I did the first Route 66 Mother Road Rally [with Kirk Woodward]

 

starting from the Santa Monica pier and ending at the shore of Lake

 

Michigan. Then turned around and went to Sturgis--a total of 7,000 miles on

 

a Sportster--again, by myself....

 

 

 

A lot of safe miles ended by a careless, inattentive and negligent driver.

 

What is irritating is the frequency we continue to hear about serious

 

motorcycle accidents caused by these type of drivers....

 

 

 

Ride Safe!!!!

 

 

 

Hank Hallmark

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Allen,

 

 

 

I'm glad you got some use out of the map series, and I thank you for the kind

 

words. And I agree that the Santa Fe loop is a real jewel out there on Route 66.

 

You have raised some interesting questions that I may want to answer in the

 

magazine.

 

 

 

There is a new, and pretty good book on Arizona, but I don't have it and the

 

name escapes me at the moment.

 

 

 

I'm not able to think of any 8 foot sections of 66 in Illinois, although such

 

roads were much more common in the early years than some people think.

 

 

 

La Bajada: it can be walked in about the same time it takes to drive. Just be

 

sure to carry water and use sunscreen.

 

 

 

Jim R.

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Hi Nicole!

 

 

 

Sounds like a wonderful adventure trek! Allow me to share with you a

 

bit of what I know about the area. Usually at the end of September

 

and beginning of October is when the change of colors abound. This is

 

also the time when the wildflowers are in bloom. Surrounding the San

 

Francisco Peaks are well over 2,200 square miles of volcanic remnants

 

and natural sites. (The San Fransisco Peaks, [Abalone and Coral

 

Mountain] is the western boundary of the Navajo Nation). More than

 

400 extinct volcanos exist in this area. The most prominent of

 

course, is the Sunset Crater with the red rim.

 

 

 

Sunset Crater is known to the Navajo Indians as "Yellow Top

 

Mountain". To the Hopi Indians, it is known as "Red Hill". This

 

cinder cone shaped mountain's name of Sunset Crater was given it's

 

name by John Wesley Powell (famed explorer who navigated down the

 

Colorado River through the Grand Canyon) because of it's bright

 

sunset like colors. The Hopi Indians believe that Yaponcha, the Wind

 

God, lives in the crack in the big black rock near the crater.

 

 

 

Sunset Crater is the last of all those numerous volcanos in the area.

 

There are two lava flows: Kana-a Flow headed northeast towards the

 

Little Colorado, and the Bonita Flow traveled northwest. The volcano

 

became a national monument in 1930. Much of the interest in the area

 

came about by a movie company's desire to dynamite Sunset Crater in

 

order to simulate a volcanic activity explosion for the silver screen.

 

 

 

Visitors to the area cannot hike the Sunset Crater, but are permitted

 

to hike the nearby Lenox Crater, which is about 1/4 mile south of the

 

visitors center. From atop, one can see some mighty impressive lava

 

flows and scenery from the various overlooks.

 

 

 

Last time there, it was a $4 per car entrance fee. For those who are

 

retired, veterans, or are disabled, the National Park Service there

 

accepts the Golden Eagle, Golden Age and Golden Access passports for

 

free admittance to the park. The desolate park road is a 35 mile

 

winding road with no filling stations or food restaurants available,

 

except for the snack machines at the visitors center. Plan to spend

 

at least 4-5 hours if you are going to visit both the Sunset Crater

 

Volcano and the Wupatki National Monument. So, be sure to travel with

 

a full tank of petro, pack and bring your own lunch, and bring PLENTY

 

of water on board!

 

 

 

Hope I hadn't bored you. (:D

 

I just LOVE that area!!!

 

 

 

God Bless and Happy Trails

 

 

 

the landrunner

 

 

 

 

 

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wrote:

 

> Hi all-

 

>

 

> Well, we're hitting the road this weekend (finally!!) and 66in' it

 

to Seligman where we're staying for 2 nights (I just love that

 

place....and I'm hoping to catch Angel, wish me luck!)....then off to

 

the Grand Canyon via the Sunset Crater and Little Colorado River

 

Gorge route.

 

>

 

> I'm wondering if someone can help me out. We were planning leaving

 

Seligman very early in the morning to start the drive through Flag,

 

Sunset Crater, and on into the GC....but I know that once you get to

 

Sunset Crater, you have to pay an entrance fee. Is there a

 

particular time it opens....and if you get there before

 

they "open".....do you have to wait? We're leaving at the crack of

 

dawn, and will be at the entrance to Sunset Crater long before 8:00

 

a.m.......is this a good idea? Does anyone know how that works

 

amongst Arizona parks? I don't want to get there and not be able to

 

get in.

 

>

 

> Thanks,

 

>

 

> Nicole

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

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