Guest B Worley Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Here is a new article in the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram today about the new Start & Stripes Drive-in in Lubbock: http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/6529931.htm Very cool!!! ________________ Bob Worley Texas Drive-ins: www.Worley-World.com/txdriveins/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scott Piotrowski Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Having some problems with some of my groups, so I wanted to post a test. Sorry for the intrusion! Scott Piotrowski, Director 66 Productions www.66productions.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frank P. Maloney Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Hi Scott & All - Yes, the Route 66 group has been "inactive" since August 11. Don't know why. Frank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B Worley Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 --- "Frank P. Maloney" <frank.maloney@villanova.edu> wrote: > Yes, the Route 66 group has been "inactive" since August 11. Don't know > why. > Maybe everybody *else* left..... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nicole Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Hi all- Well, we're hitting the road this weekend (finally!!) and 66in' it to Seligman where we're staying for 2 nights (I just love that place....and I'm hoping to catch Angel, wish me luck!)....then off to the Grand Canyon via the Sunset Crater and Little Colorado River Gorge route. I'm wondering if someone can help me out. We were planning leaving Seligman very early in the morning to start the drive through Flag, Sunset Crater, and on into the GC....but I know that once you get to Sunset Crater, you have to pay an entrance fee. Is there a particular time it opens....and if you get there before they "open".....do you have to wait? We're leaving at the crack of dawn, and will be at the entrance to Sunset Crater long before 8:00 a.m.......is this a good idea? Does anyone know how that works amongst Arizona parks? I don't want to get there and not be able to get in. Thanks, Nicole --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Ward Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Nicole, Check out http://www.nps.gov/sucr/pphtml/print.html Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Nicole To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:46 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Hittin' the road! Hi all- Well, we're hitting the road this weekend (finally!!) and 66in' it to Seligman where we're staying for 2 nights (I just love that place....and I'm hoping to catch Angel, wish me luck!)....then off to the Grand Canyon via the Sunset Crater and Little Colorado River Gorge route. I'm wondering if someone can help me out. We were planning leaving Seligman very early in the morning to start the drive through Flag, Sunset Crater, and on into the GC....but I know that once you get to Sunset Crater, you have to pay an entrance fee. Is there a particular time it opens....and if you get there before they "open".....do you have to wait? We're leaving at the crack of dawn, and will be at the entrance to Sunset Crater long before 8:00 a.m.......is this a good idea? Does anyone know how that works amongst Arizona parks? I don't want to get there and not be able to get in. Thanks, Nicole --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Kinsey Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 I have posted to both groups and only one has come in and in wasn't from the 66 group. Definitely must be a problem. Larry At 01:44 PM 8/14/2003 -0700, you wrote: >--- "Frank P. Maloney" <frank.maloney@villanova.edu> wrote: > > Yes, the Route 66 group has been "inactive" since August 11. Don't know > > why. > > > >Maybe everybody *else* left..... > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software >http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > >Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > >To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 >WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! >Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 >SUBSCRIPTION RATES: >1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 >(save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) >2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 >(save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > >For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > >To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: >AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > >To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: >AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob Carnachan Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Nicole, Sunset Crater National Monument is run by the U.S. National Park Service. Unlike many state parks, national park units are generally open all night. The entrance stations tend only to be manned during normal business hours so if you show up before 8:30 am or so, you'll probably get in without paying (though they'll catch you on the way out unless you spend all day in the park). Check the NPS website (www.nps.gov) and click over to Sunset Crater to check it out. Rob Carnachan >From: Nicole <arizona66nms@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com >To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Hittin' the road! >Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:46:18 -0700 (PDT) > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scott Piotrowski Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Thanks to everyone who responded, including those that emailed off- list. My problem has not just been with Route 66, but also a couple of non-road groups, too. I've emailed Yahoo Support, but of course I've either received the run-around or no response. Scott Piotrowski, Director 66 Productions www.66productions.com (And yes, my website is currently down, but will be up and brand new very soon!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nicole Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Thanks for the info Rob......I think I'm just gonna wing it. We should be ok. Rob Carnachan <robcarn@msn.com> wrote:Nicole, Sunset Crater National Monument is run by the U.S. National Park Service. Unlike many state parks, national park units are generally open all night. The entrance stations tend only to be manned during normal business hours so if you show up before 8:30 am or so, you'll probably get in without paying (though they'll catch you on the way out unless you spend all day in the park). Check the NPS website (www.nps.gov) and click over to Sunset Crater to check it out. Rob Carnachan >From: Nicole <arizona66nms@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com >To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Hittin' the road! >Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:46:18 -0700 (PDT) > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russell S. Rein Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Perhaps that's the reason that it's solid semis late at night between Wheeling, WV and Norwalk, OH on US 250. ypsi-slim On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 17:43:30 -0000 "Fred M. Cain" <fredmcain@bringbackroute66.com> writes: Alex, Another thing that I believe happens is that truckers who *KNOW* they're overweight (or oversized like those mobile homes) prefer to stick to the older highways because their chances of getting caught is much greater on the toll roads or Interstates. While I can't prove it, I'm certain that's the case along U.S. 20 here in northeastern Indiana. -Fred --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Burr" <hester_nec@y...> wrote: > In recent months there has been much discussion on some of these road > egroup pages concerning the designation of highways, such as U S 40, > U S 30, etc, as National Historic Highways. > > Recently I attended the 45th annual National Meet of the Hudson- > Essex-Teraplane Club in Pittsburg and had the pleasure of convoying > from Danville, PA, to Pittsburg with a friend of mine in his 1949 > Hudson. We went across U S 11 to 522 and 22 thru Altoona and over to > Pittsburg. > > I think one thing that should be done - and this should open a can > of worms. On 522 we encountered two prefab modular homes (four > units) going the other way, thankfully. On a road such as that one > it struck me that this is very dangerous due to the width of the > load. Perhaps we should be trying to ban trucks over, say, 10,000 > pounds off these roads, except for local access only. Many big rigs > run over these old narrow roads to save time - but is that time saved > worth perhaps getting somebody killed out there!!!!!! > > There would be exceptions - sections of the old roads converted into > 4 lane limited access highways, such as U S 30 in Ohio and 20 in > Iowa, for example. 22 between Altoona and Edensburg is 4 lane now > and work is progressing on other sections, so there is probably no > stopping that work. > > That's my "Monday morning quarterbacking soap box", folks. > Something to think about - tho I fully realize it would be an uphill > fight all the way and probably lead to more old roads being converted > to 4 lane. > > Hudsonly, > Alex B Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim conkle Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Scott, It seems more folks were hit with that virus then first thought. I know that three of the four machines here at my house were hit. It took me all day Tuesday to get it out of them. So it looks by the lack of volume on the e-groups that some of our friends might have it too. At this time I am seeing more on the American Roads group then the Route 66 e-group. By the way I have the information on the Rendezvous which I will be sending out in a day or so. Look good so far and if it all comes together as planned it will be successful. James M. Conkle, Executive Director California Route 66 Preservation Foundation P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760-868-3320 760-617-3991 cell 760-868-8614 fax jim@cart66pf.org www.cart66pf.org -----Original Message----- From: Scott Piotrowski [mailto:rt66prods@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:30 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: OT - Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Test Thanks to everyone who responded, including those that emailed off- list. My problem has not just been with Route 66, but also a couple of non-road groups, too. I've emailed Yahoo Support, but of course I've either received the run-around or no response. Scott Piotrowski, Director 66 Productions www.66productions.com (And yes, my website is currently down, but will be up and brand new very soon!) Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Macedo Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 The American Diner Museum passed along their new web site. Check it out. mike > The American Diner Museum is proud to announce the > launching of our new and > expanded website at > > http://www.americandinermuseum.org > > We hope you enjoy this informative and educational > website on the history of the > American Diner and please feel free to send us your > feedback and ideas of what > you would like to see on the site. Come back and > visit for the latest updates. > > > > American Diner Museum > > email: info@americandinermuseum.org > > www.americandinermuseum.org __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 There used to be an ampitheatre at Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville (just east of St. Louis) where they held concerts of all kinds (The Mississippi River Festival? Bet Ron or Emily would know)...for all I know it may not even be there anymore, but it was a great place to see a concert; saw everything from Van Cliburn to the band Heart there...while I can't say Edwardsville has little to offer in the way of cultural arts, because it does by itself, I can say that if this place still exists it would be a wonderful resurrection project. I would also say (again, not speaking for "how little there is to offer in the way of cultural arts") that Santa Rosa, NM, with their beautiful parks would be a great choice...as would most any city along Route 66 (i.e. Pontiac, IL, Rolla, MO, Springfield, MO, Claremore, OK, Clinton, OK, Tucumcari, NM (they manage to hold two roadie gatherings in a month, so they must have something going on!)...Tsingtao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Conkle" <jim@cart66pf.org> To: "Route66@Yahoogroups. Com" <route66@yahoogroups.com>; "AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups. Com" <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Cc: <>; <grandall@canyoncountry.net>; "Helen Baker" <>; "Debra Hodkin" <kdhod@earthlink.net>; "Jo Ann Webb" <>; "Brad Nickson" <brad@thenicksons.net>; "Darrell Santschi" <>; "David Knudson" <national66@national66.org>; "Delbert & Ruth Trew" <barbwiremuseum@centramedia.net>; "Diana Hutton" <>; "Jackie Rowland" <oatie10@yahoo.com>; "Jeffrey LaFollette" <>; "Jim Ross" <pathfinder66@earthlink.net>; "Johnnie Meier" <president@rt66nm.org>; "Kathie Reece-McNeill" <>; "Kathy Anderson" <ka@gallowaywallace.com>; "Kathy Miller" <>; "Laura" <azrt66@route66web.com>; "Martin Zanzucchi" <>; "Michael Ward" <flyboy1946@hotmail.com>; "Michael Taylor" <>; "Michael Wallis" <WALLIS66@aol.com>; "Ollie Schwallenstecker" <mt_ollie@madisontelco.com>; "Pat Bremer" <>; "Patricia Kuhn" <pkuhn@illinoisroute66.org>; "Rick Schmigle" <>; "Tommy Pike" <furyon66@earthlink.net> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 12:01 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] FW: request > We are looking for some data and information to fit the following > qualifications; > > > > Need to get input on 4-6 sites (maybe one in each state) that might be good > locations along Route 66: > > > > -large enough area for 1000-5000 concert-goers, plus parking space > > > > -population close enough to support such a venue > > > > -existing outdoor amphitheater with lawn seating on a descending slope OR an > area that could be made into such > > > > -community with little exposure to the cultural arts (music) in other words > does not have this type of facilities now > > > > -a community that could grow to have such a venue be self-supporting > (through fundraisers and/or sponsors) within 5 years > > > > -is there a non-profit or local group already formed to take on such a > project? > > > > > > We have been contacted by an organization that has successfully put together > projects that built or remodeled sites to fit the above requirements. > Funding is available to assist not only getting the projects off the ground > but to get them to a profitable stage. Local grass roots, governmental > agencies, colleges and media will be needed to join with us in completing > the projects. > > > > For those of you involved with your state associations, communities and > other groups please share this information with them. Anyone else that > should have this information that I have left off the list let me know so > that I can forward it on to them. > > > > Thanks > > > > James M Conkle > > Executive Director & Chairman of the Board > > California Route 66 Preservation Foundation > > P O Box 290066 > > Phelan, CA 92329-0066 > > 760 617 3991 cell > > 760 868 3320 > > 760 868 8614 fax > > HYPERLINK "mailto:"jim@cart66pf.org > > www.cart66pf.org > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 7/12/2004 > > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 7/12/2004 > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 7/12/2004 > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! 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Guest Hodkin Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Main Street USA Run & Miss Route 66 Pageant scheduled Barstow - The 6th Annual Main Street USA will be September 10-11. Friday September 10 will feature a cruise from L Street to Skyline Drive-in at 6 p.m. The Car Show will be held downtown September 11 from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. Registration begins at 7 a.m. $20 includes the car show and Friday night movie. The registration fee after August 27 is $25. Admission is free. The event is hosted by the Boys and Girls Club and Saturday Night Cruisers of Barstow. For more information, call 760-267-6538 or 760-255-1691. The 3rd Annual Mini-National Miss Route 66 Pageant will be held Saturday September 11 at Gil's Place in downtown Barstow. A fun sport wear only pageant is for ages 1 to 100 years old, beginners and pageant regulars. New custom Route 66 crowns and sashes, trophies, and embroidered jackets will be awarded to all 12 queens. Every entrant receives a sash, custom Route 66 medallion, and a tiara. Entry forms are available at the Roue 66 Museum and the Barstow Area Chamber of Commerce. Online applications can be found at www.geocities.com/imperial_image . The pageant is a fund raiser for the Route 66 Mother Road Museum and is free to attend. For information, call Kris Watson at 760-257-3435 or the Route 66 Museum at 760-255-1890. Visit the Route 66 Mother Road Museum Free Admission, Refreshments & Tours of the historic Harvey House Sat. 9/11 WELCOME NORWEGIAN BIKERS 681 N. First Ave. Barstow, CA 92311 760-255-1890 Open Fri-Sun 11-4 & by appointment www.barstow66museum.itgo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russell S. Rein Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Hello out there - it's been a while. I've been busy at work and had to go to Atlanta for a week. Can't recommend Atlanta (a big rich suburb similar to Dallas and DC area) but I did get to drive home on the 1920 Dixie Highway route between Marietta, GA and Florence, KY. When I get my pics developed I will post them on a web-site, and send you an update. Andy Olsen is walking the LH!! Go Andy!! "... Olson departed from New York City Saturday, May 8, 2004." From Ogden, UT August 10,2004: http://xrl.us/cxjo Mark Jung has peddled hin way to Iowa on the LH: http://xrl.us/cxik Mark in Woodbine, IA: http://xrl.us/cxi3 "Highway snobbery - Why doesn’t Lincoln Highway museum run through York?: http://ydr.com/story/opinion/36996/ LH Garage in York to be demolished: http://xrl.us/cxjt A little history of Maple Park, IL: http://www.elburnherald.com/features/f483.htm " Lots of local Lincoln Highway history" from the York, PA Daily Record: http://ydr.com/story/op-ed/38156/ "... series of festivals scheduled along the Illinois portion of the great Lincoln Highway...": http://xrl.us/cxje " A look at early roads in Delphos area", Delphos, OH Herald: http://xrl.us/cxjf It's time for PA's annual Lincoln Hwy Rally: http://xrl.us/cxjg I missed the late Tom Lutzi's estate auction which featured a large collection of Lincoln Highway memorabilia. I will try to get a prices realized listing from the auctioneer for reference. Already the stuff is appearing on ebay including a 1915 Official Guide to the LH starting at $500. I was interested in getting the guide but it wasn't listed at the auctioneer's web site. Also of interest was an Army medal for the 1918 Army Convoy on the LH. Also, a metal Lincoln Highway Tire letter opener, and a large collection of Lincoln Highway Cigar stuff. Tom had three concrete markers that were also auctioned. I would be interested in hearing from any attendees. that's all folks, ypsi-slim, new King of the Dixie Highway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 nice hearng from ya...any bridgespeak is cool with me! Tsigntao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "im410se" <roustabout@starband.net> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 8:14 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Intro from a new member > Hello there! My name is Bob Reynolds and I'm an old road lover down > in Tennessee. I haven't seen much reference to southern roads, but > there are a lot of them around, and I hope to bring a little > southern flavor to the group with my posts and photos. > > My particular love is old bridges and tunnels. It's very sad to see > so many camelback truss bridges being replaced by modern, soulless > spans. I realize the newer bridges are safer, but they totally lack > character. Such is progress, I suppose. And I also suppose there > were folks way back when complaining that the new fangled bridges > were replacing all the ferries:) Time marches on:) > > I've created a new photo file titled "BabyBoomerBob", and posted a > few local photos featuring the US 11 bridge at Loudon, TN, and some > downtown art. My wife and I recently took a day trip down to > Chattanooga, a trip I hope to write up and post soon. > > I am thoroughly delighted to find a group of fellow roadies, not to > mention that magnificent magazine! > > BabyBoomerBob > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 personal favs are the bayou routes in and around Reelfoot lake--near my stompin ground in the Bootheel...Tsingtao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "brownwho63" <wefly66@earthlink.net> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 9:51 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Intro from a new member > Welcome to the group, Bob. I did some old road traveling in TN for > several years as part of my (then) employment. Drove highways 20, > 22, 45, 51, 64, and 104 lots of time. I worked in places like Union > City, McKenzie, Lexington, Dyer, Trenton, Humboldt, Selmer, Savannah, > and Kenton. Blue highways are everywhere. > > Bliss > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "im410se" <roustabout@s...> > wrote: > > Hello there! My name is Bob Reynolds and I'm an old road lover > down > > in Tennessee. I haven't seen much reference to southern roads, but > > there are a lot of them around, and I hope to bring a little > > southern flavor to the group with my posts and photos. > > > > My particular love is old bridges and tunnels. It's very sad to > see > > so many camelback truss bridges being replaced by modern, soulless > > spans. I realize the newer bridges are safer, but they totally > lack > > character. Such is progress, I suppose. And I also suppose there > > were folks way back when complaining that the new fangled bridges > > were replacing all the ferries:) Time marches on:) > > > > I've created a new photo file titled "BabyBoomerBob", and posted a > > few local photos featuring the US 11 bridge at Loudon, TN, and some > > downtown art. My wife and I recently took a day trip down to > > Chattanooga, a trip I hope to write up and post soon. > > > > I am thoroughly delighted to find a group of fellow roadies, not to > > mention that magnificent magazine! > > > > BabyBoomerBob > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest big_ugly_mich@yahoo.com Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Isn't that the truth? I remember going to an auto show some years back. I checked out a Dodge Caravan and asked the dealer what made it different from a Plymouth Voyager. His answer, and I quote, "The nameplate." I'd fix up a Voyager like a minibus and the Caravan for hauling stuff if I was in charge at Chrysler. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, chris <chris@e...> wrote: > A gallery I just put together with a group of my photos taken a couple weeks > ago. A 1956 Chrysler Imperial and a 1956 Desoto. Side by side it struck me > curious, how much they are the same. In fact many body panels, parts and > pieces are the same. Building one car across different platforms of the same > corporation, is nothing new. "Yeah it's got a Hemi!" > > http://homepage.mac.com/eyerobic/56ChryDes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Today, October 2, the American Road Yahoo Group is 2 years old! Thanks to everyone for making this a great forum for all of us two lane road dogs. We currently have a membership base of 201, and hopefully we can eclipse the 300 mark by this time in 2005. There has been plenty of hearty discussion during these two years that have hopefully educated us all on various aspects of historic highway travel, be it preservation, promotion, or just the tales of those wandering the lost highways of America. We look forward to hearing more in the years to come. Happy trails! Pat & Jennifer Bremer American Road Yahoo Group Moderators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Actually, building on the same platform has been around for years. American Motors did it in the 1960's (designed a mid-size car, the Classic - up scaled it to the Ambassardor, down scaled it to the American) and even before that. Hudson in the 50's and earlier - only thing different between Commodores and Supers is the trim package. Go back to the 1930's and put the Chrysler output side by side. Take the nameplates and trim off and tell me the difference between a Plymouth or Dodge - without looking at the ID plate. Hudsonly, Alex B --- big_ugly_mich@yahoo.com wrote: > Isn't that the truth? I remember going to an auto > show some years > back. I checked out a Dodge Caravan and asked the > dealer what made it > different from a Plymouth Voyager. > > His answer, and I quote, "The nameplate." > > I'd fix up a Voyager like a minibus and the Caravan > for hauling stuff > if I was in charge at Chrysler. > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, chris > <chris@e...> wrote: > > A gallery I just put together with a group of my > photos taken a > couple weeks > > ago. A 1956 Chrysler Imperial and a 1956 Desoto. > Side by side it > struck me > > curious, how much they are the same. In fact many > body panels, > parts and > > pieces are the same. Building one car across > different platforms of > the same > > corporation, is nothing new. "Yeah it's got a > Hemi!" > > > > http://homepage.mac.com/eyerobic/56ChryDes/ > > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 CONGRATULATIONS - let us know when you hit 25. Hopefully I'll still beating the daylights out of my keyboard (tho a lot slower than now). EGads - I'll be 92!!!!!!! LOL Hudsonly, Alex B --- "Pat B." <roadmaven@aol.com> wrote: > Today, October 2, the American Road Yahoo Group is 2 > years old! > Thanks to everyone for making this a great forum for > all of us two > lane road dogs. We currently have a membership base > of 201, and > hopefully we can eclipse the 300 mark by this time > in 2005. > > There has been plenty of hearty discussion during > these two years > that have hopefully educated us all on various > aspects of historic > highway travel, be it preservation, promotion, or > just the tales of > those wandering the lost highways of America. We > look forward to > hearing more in the years to come. > > Happy trails! > > Pat & Jennifer Bremer > American Road Yahoo Group Moderators > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beckyrepp Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Hi gang. Good to hear that some issues are hitting mailboxes already. They were just mailed by the printer late last week. For those subscribers who haven't received their copies yet, its on its way! It generally takes 2 - 3 weeks from when it was mailed. Becky Repp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chetnichols@aol.com Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Emily, If I win the Lotto....I'll buy it for you and give it to you two lovebirds as a gift...as long as I can stay in the "Unkle Chesty Suite" anytime I drive through.... Times are tough, we all know that...and there are lots of folks out there hanging on by their "plasma tubes". ($80?....heck, I gotta try that). One thing you can do is make the following kind of offer. Tell the seller, that you will pay $10,000 more than any other offer, IF he will "hold the paper" (Land contract/contract for deed). Offer him a juicy percentage, say 9% (or higher, if you have to...that's better than a CD).....till you can sell your place....and get established.....say a 5-year balloon.....further out (7 years) if you can swing it. Once you sell your house, tell him that you will give him whatever equity you have and that it will go towards the purchase price. Then plead the Route 66 preservation cause....get a petition going....do anything you can to make it appealing to sell property to you and Ron. Work the city council. In your mind, "pretend it's THE BLUE SWALLOW ( I know you're very fond of it). Once, your home is sold....and you've put your equity into the motel.....you can approach normal mortgage channels for a conventional/commercial(?) loan, if he wants to get out quickly. Get a great washing machine and dryer, clean the rooms, wash the bedding.... then invite us roadies over for a B-B-Que and suds. As I said, I'd give you a free-weekend of my time as a carpenter/fine painter to help start to touch the place up....FREE...... One VERY IMPORTANT thing is get a great real estate lawyer.....if they don't just do real estate, take a pass. You want someone you knows the true in's-and-out's. I know a couple here in Chicago who would advise you, but you'd be best off getting a Missouri based attorney. The NEXT IMPORTANT thing to do is arrange to meet the owner and....WALK THE PROPERTY.....as you talk about preserving the property as a Route 66 icon. Does he really want a developer tearing "his home down". You and Ron are REALLY wonderful people and very dedicated to the road....our prayers are with you. Now, I gotta go and get a ticket for the weekend lotto drawings...... Best of luck, Unkle Chesty http://LastRidersOn66.itgo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Conkle Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 I am posting this message, as per Scott's request, to the e-groups. We were invited to the meeting that Scott talks about but being that I was going to AZ for meetings and events I could not make that meeting. They will be having another meeting this week which I will miss also as I am going to Vegas for the SEMA show (Helen & Harry Baker & Jo Ann Webb are already there). If any of you are in the LA area and can attend the meeting and show Route 66 support contact Scott for details. The leaders of this movement called me yesterday and brought me up to date, as did Scott's report. This is the first project that the folks in West Hollywood have gotten involved with when it comes to Route 66. The city has not gotten involved and is taking a wait and see attitude, which this group is working on bringing them into the process. We have passed this on to the Los Angeles Conservancy for their support too. Thanks James M Conkle Executive Director & Chairman of the Board California Route 66 Preservation Foundation P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760 617 3991 cell 760 868 3320 760 868 8614 fax jim@cart66pf.org www.cart66pf.org -----Original Message----- From: Scott Piotrowski [mailto:rt66prods@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:11 AM To: Kevin Hansel; jim conkle Subject: Irv's Burgers BEGIN MESSAGE: .......... On Thursday evening, October 28, I journeyed on over to West Hollywood to represent the Route 66 community in a meeting to discuss the future of Irvs Burgers. I almost felt bad for the developers (the Seltzers) and the gentleman representing Peets Coffee (Peter). Although I was the only Route 66 enthusiast that was present, there were about twenty members of the Burger Brigade present, as well as Irvs Burgers operator, Sonya. It seemed at times like we were teaming up and attacking the Seltzers and Peter. Before getting into details about the status of Irvs, let me step back a bit and explain a little bit about the situation in West Hollywood. First of all, West Hollywood is located in Los Angeles County, west of Downtown Los Angeles. The post-1936 extension of Route 66 took the highway through the heart of West Hollywood on Santa Monica Boulevard, just east of Beverly Hills. West Hollywood is notable to Route 66 enthusiasts as the home of Barneys Beanery. Irvs Burgers opened in a tiny stand at 8289 Santa Monica Boulevard in 1950. In the almost 55 years since, this little stand has undergone a lot of changes. From the standpoint of a preservationist, there is little appeal in the actual structure that is Irvs Burgers. This tiny little shack lacks adequate parking, and barely holds enough space for cooking. Not being a red-meat-eater, I cant say if their food is any good or not, but it definitely has strong local support. Original owner Irv still technically owns the property. The business, however, is currently operated by a woman named Sonya (I didnt get her last name, sorry). Sonya came to the United States with her family about twenty years ago from South Korea, and she took over the business about five years ago. Unfortunately, Irv is getting up there in years (hes in his late 80s) and has recently signed a long-term lease with the Seltzer Brothers, who are developers in the area. The nature of the lease seems to indicate that the Seltzers are in possession of the property and therefore can determine its fate. Irv was not able to attend the meeting. A quick little side note here that is very relevant. The property sits on the corner of Santa Monica and Sweetzer, just east of the heart of what is West Hollywood. It is located in an area that is highly commercial along Santa Monica, but extremely dense residential just off the main strip. There is also an old auto repair shop on that same corner that in fact sits on the same property. The shop has been closed for a number of years. The Seltzers have already removed all EPA hazards from the lot that would prevent a new restaurant from being opened. They have already hired an architect and come up with a plan for a 1400 square foot building to occupy the entirety of the property. And they have already signed a lease with Peets Coffee to open a store in that new building when it is opened. However, Peter, the Business Development person (I dont know his official title) from Peets indicated throughout the meeting that he and the company he works for did not want to enter West Hollywood without the support of the community. He indicated that his company would be interested in helping Irvs Burgers and Sonya relocate to a new location. He also indicated that if someone were to come along and assume their lease with the Seltzers, the company would happily step away, if that were what the community wanted. He seemed genuinely sincere in saying so. The Seltzers, for their part, have indicated that they are losing money on the property, and therefore must build this building and get one tenant to pay for the entirety of the lot. Sonya and Irvs simply cannot pay those bills. After hearing everyones stories, and adding my two cents to the meeting, and asking a few questions, here is where I personally believe that we stand in terms of Irvs Burgers. The Seltzers seem to fully be in their legal right to close Irvs and tear it down. They seem intent on doing that. Peets, for their part, seem more than willing to attempt to move the structure and relocate Sonya and Irvs in a new location. The structure itself does not seem movable. The City of West Hollywood was not present at the meeting, and I do not dare to speak for it. My recommendation on this action is as follows. I would like to ask the City of West Hollywood to assist in looking for a new location, preferably near its current location and preferably along The Mother Road, for Irvs to move to. I would also ask the City of West Hollywood to grant Peets Coffee some tax breaks in exchange for assisting in the relocation of Irvs Burgers. This seems to me to be the only logical solution to make all parties relatively happy, so that it is not a complete loss for anyone involved. At this point, however, there are going to be more meetings of the Burger Brigade, followed by another meeting with the Seltzers, Peter, and the Burger Brigade. That should all happen sometime this week. Once those meetings have occurred, I will let everyone know where we stand, and then ask for an action team response when the time is right. In the meantime, if anyone on the group has any first-hand experiences at Irvs, please contact me right away. Well need that support up front. ===== Scott Piotrowski, Director 66 Productions www.66productions.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.733 / Virus Database: 487 - Release Date: 8/2/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.733 / Virus Database: 487 - Release Date: 8/2/2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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