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Hello again:

 

 

 

I guess it would help if you had the phone number for the place:

 

 

 

Stanton Motel: 573-927-2120

 

 

 

Sorry about that...Kip Welborn, cochair, motor tour committee

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Guest timothy

hi everybody,

 

thank you for accepting me to American_Road. i will be gone on

 

vacation for 2 weeks, so i will not be avaliable to YIM (yahoo instant

 

message), AIM, or e-mail.

 

thanks,

 

tim jerome

 

tm_jerome@yahoo.com e-mail

 

timcrp1 AIM screen name

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Guest bbhann1

thanks for being approved to American_Road. i am trying to put together

 

a ride on my m/c from KC area to Florance OR. the first of august if

 

anyone can give some good advice on touring roads from here to there

 

would be of great appreciation. Was going to go to beartooth highway,

 

but i understand it will be closed through this year. thanks again for

 

acceptance and for the info.

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Guest Jennifer

I have to say big welcome to our 77 new members this week...that is,

 

without question, a record. My inbox was unexpectedly flooded with new

 

member requests this morning!

 

 

 

Don't be shy, step right up and share some road stories, ask questions

 

about road travel and have fun!

 

 

 

Jennifer Bremer

 

American Road Yahoo Group Co-Moderator

 

 

 

http://www.roadtripmemories.com

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Russell S. Rein" <Ypsi-

 

slim@j...> wrote:

 

> Hi Cindy,

 

>

 

> The Red Arrow Highway was Old US 12 before I-94 was opened.

 

> It is called Red Arrow Highway starting approximately midway between

 

> Oshtemo and Paw Paw. It runs into Territorial Rd. on the East side

 

of

 

> Benton Harbor, then a jog south on Water and continue west on Main

 

> St., then another jog on Wayne to Port to continue south on Main St.

 

> through St. Joseph. South of St. Joe town Main turns into

 

Lakeshore.

 

> This whole section is marked as Business I-94 and is easy to follow.

 

> Further south of St. Joe the road turns back into Red Arrow Highway.

 

> It crosses I-94 a couple of times and continues to New Buffalo

 

> at the SW corner of the state, and eventually runs into the few

 

miles

 

> of original US 12 in the southwest corner of the state.

 

>

 

> Old US 12 started in Grand Circus Park in Downtown Detroit and

 

> ran west with US 16 on Grand River until it split off at the eastern

 

> beginning of Plymouth Rd. It went through Redford, Livonia,

 

Plymouth,

 

> Dixboro, Ann Arbor, Lima Center, Chelsea, Sylvan Center, Leoni,

 

> Jackson, Sandstone, Parma, Albion, Marengo, Marshall, Battle Creek,

 

> Lakeview, Galesburg, Comstock, Oshtemo, Paw Paw, Teapot Dome,

 

> Lawrence, Hartford, Watervliet, Coloma, Twelve Corners, Benton

 

> Harbor, St. Joseph, Shoreham, Glen Lord, Stevensville, Bridgman,

 

> Shorewood Hills, Bethany Beach, Sawyer, Birchwood, Hazelhurst,

 

> Harbert, Turner Shores, Lakeside, Lakeview, Union Pier, Gordon

 

> Beach, Sokol Camp, New Buffalo and Grand Beach. Except for a

 

> few jogs virtually the entire Old US 12 in Michigan is still there

 

and

 

> driveable.

 

>

 

> When I-94 was finished they decommissioned the old US 12 route

 

> and redesignated the southerly US 112 route as US 12, in June of

 

> 1961. This is very confusing to most people. Except for the last

 

two

 

> miles or so, everything in Michigan that now is marked as US 12

 

either

 

> was Old US 112 or some other road or improvement. For more info.

 

> on this see Marc Fannin's Michiana Roads web page at:

 

> http://www.roadfan.com/michroad.html

 

> Robert Droz's US Highway pages at

 

> http://www.us-highways.com/

 

> And read the article on US 12 by the Federal Highway

 

Administration's

 

> Historian Richard F. Weingroff:

 

> http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/us12.htm

 

>

 

> This New US 12 (old US 112) follows the route of the Old Chicago

 

> Road and the Old Sauk Trail, and has recently been awarded Heritage

 

> Trail Status by the Michigan Department of Transportation (MDOT).

 

> For more info. about this see:

 

> http://www.swmicomm.org/SWMC/US12.htm..

 

>

 

> Three Oaks is on new US 12, about 5 miles east of the Red Arrow

 

> Highway and New Buffalo. This section was never part of the

 

> Original Old US 112 which jogged south into Indiana at Elkhart

 

> (now MI 205 to Indiana 19) then ran west with US 20 through South

 

> Bend and ended in Rolling Prairie, IN near the famous Bob's

 

Barbeque.

 

> US 20 / Old US 112 west of South Bend was also the Lincoln

 

> Highway Route. So the original Old US 112 never went all the way

 

> west across Michigan.

 

>

 

> I study and collect Old US 12 and Old US 112, and have a large

 

collection

 

> of ephemera, road maps, postcards and souvenirs of these two

 

routes.

 

> I have the domain names US12.org and US112.com and eventually plan

 

on

 

> having two web-sites to display my collection. I drive these

 

routes all

 

> the time.

 

>

 

> Everyone get out there and drive these roads now, there's lots to

 

see, do

 

> and

 

> eat, and stay off that nasty I-94!!

 

>

 

> ypsi-slim

 

 

 

Hi Russell,

 

 

 

You've given me quite

 

a few sites to explore

 

and hope you will keep us updated regarding

 

the display of your collection.

 

 

 

We visited an excellent bakery in Harbert and tried

 

to tour the Cook Nuclear Plant in Bridgman. Apparently,

 

the latter hasn't been giving tours for a while

 

despite what my guidebook says. I'm assuming

 

these tours were discontinued after 9/11. At one

 

time, they had an interpretive center featuring atom splitting

 

displays and hands-on exhibits. Was looking forward

 

to the 3 mile hike and the Nipissing Dune Trails.

 

Supposedly, some of the best views of Lake Michigan

 

are from the observation decks. I did get a photo

 

of the Cook sign, the date, and the temperature. :)

 

 

 

It was a fun drive. I didn't realize the Red Arrow

 

Highway was so extensive. If I visit Michigan

 

again, I hope to take the entire route.

 

 

 

Thanks again for your information.

 

 

 

Cindy

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...> wrote:

 

> Hi Cindy,

 

>

 

> I went to google and typed in Red Arrow Highway -

 

> came up with several hits. This is just one

 

> (Michigan):

 

>

 

> http://www.detnews.com/2003/entertainment/.../e06-293700.htm

 

>

 

> Happy and Safe Traveling.

 

>

 

> Hudsonly,

 

> Alex B

 

 

 

Thanks for the link Alex.

 

 

 

Hope to check this and other tips I've been given

 

during a more reasonable hour of the day.

 

 

 

Cindy

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "PJ" <pj757x@y...> wrote:

 

>

 

> ..........Next Trip....

 

> http://www.newenglandforestry.org/nqw/sear...tail.asp?id=135

 

> Street: Athol rd

 

> City, State, Zip: Orange, Mass. 01364

 

> Phone: ask me

 

> Notes: Aug 2nd till..??..

 

> Road trip to north central Mass, Tully, Orange, Athol area....95n

 

to

 

> 91n to rt.2e...Copy & Paste the above link to view the map, not for

 

> road navigation, but surrounding town locales...E-Mail me for more

 

> details....I'll be leaving from the Va Beach area.....You

 

> comming...???...That's rt 2"w" for you Melanie...lol...

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Melanie M Guerra

 

> <dreambigarts@y...> wrote:

 

> > hey everyone...i've got a few days all to myself next week...i'm

 

> thinking i'll take a trip up from boston...to?? i'm thinking about

 

> maine, probably along the coast. don't feel liek portland, don't

 

know

 

> if i'll make it to acadia...anyone have some ideas? places to stay?

 

> kin dof want to do this one on the cheap, but it doesn't have to be

 

> the no-tell motel...i want to be comfy! :) thanks..melanie

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > melanie m guerra

 

> > www.northernlightjewelry.com

 

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Guest Karen Breen

Hey All,first post,been a subscriber since issue one.My all time favorite

 

mag,as I cannot put it down till finished and then pick over it till worn

 

out!Anyway,I took my wife to Vegas and then drove to CA on 66,then on to

 

Santa Barbara on The ONE as I went as far North as time allowed,was

 

wonderful!I probadly wouldnt have done that part had in not been in the

 

magazine.Anyway,as my wife really loves to travel now,it's tuff with 2

 

kids,(no kids on CA trip!!)but I have a business trip to Phoenix in

 

Sept.where we will finish the 66 tour(the part we missed due to staying on

 

Catalina Island 3 days longer than expected,dang!!!LOL) from Needles to

 

Williams AZ,my qestion is I just booked a Flight to Chicago for a long

 

weekend in about 2 weeks,as my wife is a school teacher,just a quick

 

getaway,I have 1 free day with a rental car,I need a day trip?What to

 

do?Should I do 66 down to Springfeild and back,or do ya'll road scholars

 

have any good ideas?I would also send a big hey to Denny Gibson as I saw you

 

were thru this neck'o woods recently,great web site.It would be great if

 

American Roads would do a story on Route 60,which I live off of,funny how 60

 

was almost 66 when the naming came about.I take it west to Richmond alot as

 

I 64 is crazy anymore and you get to some great scene's of this great state

 

that I64 can never show!

 

Thanks,Gary Breen in Williamsburg VA

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Guest tracyaltman

Hey Dan ... all the suggestions I've read so far have been great.

 

Really, there's not many places to go in Oregon and Washington that

 

aren't gorgeous. In addition to the big roads (101, 84, 20), be sure

 

to drive on some of the smaller highways in Oregon ... get into

 

Oregon's high dessert climate for the fantastic smell of sage in the

 

heat.

 

 

 

My favorite trip is taking Hwy 97 (off I84)South towards Shaniko, on

 

down to Antelope, East to Fossil and Spray on Hwy 19, meeting up with

 

Hwy 26 West through the Redmond/Bend area on to Portland or the Coast.

 

You'll head through an amazing variety of landscapes in a remarkably

 

short period of time.

 

 

 

I could go on and on ... love my state! :) Happy trails!

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Guest Pat B.

American Road magazine will soon (within a few days!) be unveiling

 

its dynamic new website, with great new content and features

 

including:

 

 

 

- Calendar of Events (where you can submit events electronically!)

 

- Road News (where you can submit news items electronically!)

 

- A new and improved Hitching Post (Online store)

 

- American Road podcasts - broadcasts that celebrate travel across the

 

historic two-lane highways of North America.

 

- the AMERICAN ROAD TRIP SWEEPSTAKES—offering you a chance to win

 

great prizes!

 

- a Reader Service card offering readers one quick and easy way to

 

request information from AMERICAN ROAD advertisers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, we would like to announce that the forum will have a new home at

 

the American Road website as well. We will make the transition an easy

 

and gradual one for all members. When the new forum is ready, we will

 

announce it here and provide a link and complete instructions for

 

joining. The current Yahoo group will remain up for a short time

 

(probably a couple of weeks), allowing all members time to join the

 

new forum. After that, we will shut down the ability to post at the

 

Yahoo Groups' site, but will keep all posts available in the archives

 

for a specific period of time. That period of time will be as long

 

as it takes for the posts to be transferred to an "archive" section

 

of the new forum. Once all old posts have been transferred, the Yahoo

 

Groups' site will be disabled.

 

 

 

As to the new forum, we believe members will enjoy the new features.

 

There's lots of technical features that we think will be helpful -

 

like the ability to go back and edit or delete your own posts. The

 

addition of "avatars" to your profile, as well as putting smilies and

 

emoticons in posts are neat too!

 

 

 

As far as content and navigation, that will be one of the best changes

 

we'll have. We will have various separate subforums so we can have

 

relevant, topical discussions...for example: the category Roads,

 

Bridges & Tunnels will have subforums for discussing U.S. Highways

 

(further broken out by different highways); Road Trails; State /

 

County Roads, etc. The category Roadside Businesses would have

 

separate subforums for discussion on Motels, Diners and other roadside

 

businesses, etc....this is a short list of the categories and

 

subforums, but hopefully that gets the idea across.

 

 

 

This is where we would like your input...to suggest a subforum

 

category, please send a note to either Pat or myself at:

 

 

 

route66-owner@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: American Road Forum Categories

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

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Guest Mark Kasprowicz

Just a quick 'Hi' from another newcomer this time from Oxford England.

 

Some seven years ago we first chanced on the US as a holiday and

 

travelled from Chicago to Denver on the California Zephyr train. There

 

we met some folks who were linked to our next door neighbours. We

 

hired a car in Denver and travelled. We returned the following year

 

and kept coming back since when we've covered CO, AZ. UT, NM, CA, OR,

 

WA and MT. In the end we kept returning to Durango in the Four Corners

 

of CO. Such friendly people and beautiful scenery. So we bought a

 

condo outside of town in the Animas Valley. Now we travel offroad in

 

our Ford Explorer locally.

 

So this is just a thanks for 'take me home, country roads' from

 

a 'foreigner.

 

Great site

 

Mark

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Guest jeff daniels

I will be in Charolette Nc for business-- for three days-- I will have

 

some time-- I like history, art - gardens- sports-- What would you

 

see in Charolette thanks for responding cedarstm@yahoo.com

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Guest Chris

Durango is a beautiful area. I travel there a couple times a year

 

from Utah for work. Friends of mine live in Hesperus and camp often

 

above Mancos.

 

 

 

Chris

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Kasprowicz"

 

<marowicz@a...> wrote:

 

> Just a quick 'Hi' from another newcomer this time from Oxford

 

England.

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Guest Chet Nichols II

Dear Friends,

 

 

 

I have had numerous requests from roadies to purchase some of my Route 66

 

and other Road Songs on-line as MP3 files.....so I have done the following

 

to answer their requests.....

 

 

 

You can now purchase many of my Route 66 and other road songs as MP3 files

 

for $0.99 at......http://www.broadjam.com/chetnichols....

 

 

 

Hate to be self-promoting but many people from the e=groups have contacted

 

me.......about this.

 

 

 

Hope everyone is well. My heart situation has improved a lot and I am losing

 

weight and looking good....thanks for all your prayers.

 

 

 

God Bless.....

 

 

 

Chet Nichols

 

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http://LastRidersOn66.itog.com

 

http://www.MagicGarageProductions.com

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Guest Dennis Karlstad

The free live webcast of the 2005 Steinbeck Awards Luncheon is a go, thanks

 

to the encouragement and support of David Knudson, Pete Scott, Ken

 

Turmel, David Willman, Croc Lile, Swa Frantzen, Helen Baker and others.

 

Thank You!

 

 

 

It will begin between 11am and 1pm Pacific time Friday, Sept. 16th. In a

 

couple of days the link to watch will be on the home page of

 

www.route66today.com (Anyone is free to put a link on their site to the

 

webcast) The stream will be for the Quicktime 6 player and a free download

 

is available if you don't have it. Anyone with a 256k connection and above

 

can see it. I will try to minimize glitches but be aware that if my connection

 

from the hotel is interrupted and I have to re-start, you will have to re-

 

connect to continue watching.

 

If you can't attend, hope you enjoy.

 

Dennis in Minneapolis - headed there now.

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Hate to be an alarmist, but I received this message last night. If

 

you feel so inclined, please consider writing the city with your

 

concerns. JWM http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/swautotrails

 

 

 

***

 

 

 

 

 

The historic El Vado motel on Central between Old Town and the Rio

 

Grande is under contract to a local buyer who has requested a zone map

 

amendment from C-2 (Community Commercial) to R-T (Residential-

 

Townhouse). His intent is to demolish the motel and build ten

 

townhouses in a gated development. The re-zoning application (Project

 

1004639) is on the agenda of the Environmental Planning Commission's

 

October 20, 2005 public hearing.

 

 

 

El Vado Motel is listed in the New Mexico Register of Cultural

 

Properties and National Register of Historic Places. It's also is the

 

most widely recognized Route 66 motel in Albuquerque, judging from

 

its frequent appearance in Route 66-related publications. It appears

 

in calendars, books, and other commercial products available locally,

 

nationally, and inter-nationally. Examples: Route 66 Souvenirs by

 

Alan Rose (die-cut buildings and postcards in book form),1999 Car

 

Culture Calendar (photography by Lucinda Lewis). Seen on many Route

 

66 websites, too, El Vado's combined exposure amounts to free-of-

 

charge heritage tourism promotion for Albuquerque. See the following

 

sites (among many at Google that mention and/or show El Vado):

 

 

 

www.theroadwanderer.net/66NMex/albuq

 

www.cart66pf.org/66caravan

 

www.sylviastuurman.nl/stories/newmexico/dag4/

 

www.national66.com/66hstry

 

www.wtv-zone.com/moe/moesmemorabilia/page11

 

http://zv.3web.cz/vancis/r55nmex

 

www.btwmagazine.com/archive/arch_200205

 

www.geocities.com/route66honeymoon/day09

 

www.unm.edu/~honors/route66/syllabus

 

www.internettes.fr/decouv/8meetape

 

www2.sjsu.edu/faculty/wooda/motelnewmexico

 

 

 

El Vado's listing in the State Register of Cultural Properties and

 

National Register of Historic Places does not protect it from

 

demolition by a private-sector owner. Even if it were designated a

 

City Landmark (it isn't) under City of Albuquerque zoning authority,

 

its protection would not necessarily be assured. Ultimately,

 

protecting such a building requires that the City find a way to

 

preserve it if its owner will not do so.

 

 

 

Written comments to the EPC can be submitted for the record at City

 

Planning, 600 2nd St. NW, 3rd Floor, Albuquerque NM 87102. Comment at

 

the public hearing is welcome.

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Guest annemargo@webtv.net

I don't think you'll be too far from Death Valley, and in February you

 

won't get broiled when you visit.

 

 

 

Anne

 

 

 

What I would like to know is...is there anything within the state line

 

at that point that would be fun to see without having to go all the way

 

to LA? I don't want to get too far from Vegas, being as we'll have to

 

turn around and go back to the hotel that night.

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Guest Dorothy Thompson

Thanks, Anne! Now THAT would be interesting! I did some estimation and it

 

seems to me, if I can remember right, that it would take about 3 hours to get

 

there from Vegas. Am I right on that?

 

 

 

Dorothy

 

 

 

annemargo@webtv.net wrote:

 

I don't think you'll be too far from Death Valley, and in February you

 

won't get broiled when you visit.

 

 

 

Anne

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dorothy Thompson

 

ROMANCING THE SOUL

 

Do you believe in soul mates?

 

http://www.dorothythompson.net

 

http://www.overthehillchick.blogspot.com

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Guest Kevin

Dorothy,

 

 

 

You could, also, leave the freeway at California's

 

first exit @ Tipton Rd. Follow some easy directions

 

to Route 66 & Roy's in Amboy. Then take 66 & I40 to

 

Barstow, see the Harvey House Train Depot & other

 

sights in Barstow. Then head back to Vegas, maybe a

 

stop in Baker to admire the world's largest

 

thermometer.

 

 

 

Kevin

 

 

 

--- Dorothy Thompson <thewriterslife@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

---------------------------------

 

Thanks, Anne! Now THAT would be interesting! I did

 

some estimation and it seems to me, if I can remember

 

right, that it would take about 3 hours to get there

 

from Vegas. Am I right on that?

 

 

 

Dorothy

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Guest Dennis Steinert

Death valley - It's a long day with sightseeing, but definitely worth it.

 

Total driving would be 300 miles. There are some stretches of road where

 

you can open it up and make tracks, if you get my meaning.

 

 

 

(This is from memory, check a map first) South on I-15, exit at Blue Diamond

 

road (NV-160). Go west through Pahrump. About 5 miles past Pahrump, turn

 

left onto Bell Vista Road. This will become Ash Meadows Road, and later

 

State Line Road in California. Jog right then left in Death Valley

 

Junction, ending up on CA-190. You can stop at Zabriskie point along the

 

way. I would probably skip Dante's view, it takes some time to get there

 

and back. Continue on to Furnace Creek Ranch. There is a museum, gift

 

shop, gas station, cafe and restaurant. The main visitor center is about 1

 

mile further north.

 

 

 

Return south from Furnace Creek Ranch for 1 mile, turn right on Badwater

 

Road. If you have time and the road is not crowded, take artist's drive.

 

Stop at Badwater, then continue south onto CA-178. The highway makes a jog

 

in Shoshone, traveling with the road to Baker for about 2 miles. Do not

 

plan on getting gas in Shoshone. This station is usually the highest priced

 

gas in California. CA-178 will become NV-372 in Nevada. Once you're in

 

Pahrump, retrace your steps back to Las Vegas.

 

 

 

- Dennis

 

 

 

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I don't think you'll be too far from Death Valley, and in February you

 

won't get broiled when you visit.

 

 

 

Anne

 

 

 

What I would like to know is...is there anything within the state line at

 

that point that would be fun to see without having to go all the way to LA?

 

I don't want to get too far from Vegas, being as we'll have to turn around

 

and go back to the hotel that night.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest tux@tuxtravels.net

I did a drive along I15 from San Diego, CA to Las Vegas, NV this summer.

 

There is alot of nothing out there. But I guess if you're going to go as

 

far as Baker, CA, you might as well see the infamous zzyzx road off of

 

I15. You don't really need to stop, just to say, "yea I saw it." :)

 

 

 

> You could, also, leave the freeway at California's

 

> first exit @ Tipton Rd. Follow some easy directions

 

> to Route 66 & Roy's in Amboy. Then take 66 & I40 to

 

> Barstow, see the Harvey House Train Depot & other

 

> sights in Barstow. Then head back to Vegas, maybe a

 

> stop in Baker to admire the world's largest

 

> thermometer.

 

 

 

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Guest Alex Burr

Tom,

 

 

 

One of my most enjoyable drives on Skyline Drive was back in the mid-60's.

 

I was on my way to Eglin AFB (you'll find Coasties going most anywhere - I was

 

going to HU/SA-16 school).

 

 

 

I stayed overnight in Front Royal, and being an early bird, was at the North

 

Entrance at around 6AM - well, it was open, even if there wasn't anybody at the

 

booth. So I carried on.

 

 

 

What a contrast to later in the day. Little if no traffic for over an hour,

 

coming around curves and finding herds of deer and other animals grazing beside

 

the road. Quiet, peaceful, the sun coming up to the east. I hated to leave the

 

drive, but left at Route 211 west. Great way to start the day.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

egyptianzipper@aol.com wrote:

 

In a message dated 1/18/06 1:09:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, harmon@mvn.net

 

writes:

 

People who are convinced that the travel itself *should* be part of the

 

enjoyment are the people who become the "roadies."

 

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As I said in an earlier post, my love of old-fashioned car travel (I'm also a

 

railroad buff BTW) springs from family trips in the early sixties, both day

 

trips and summer vacations. I'll never forget the time when I was 13 and I got

 

my own room at a motel! It was in Hillsboro, Ohio, and it was one of those old

 

fashioned "cabins." I don't know how it worked out that I got my own room;

 

normally it was one for the three kids and one for our parents. But it felt like

 

I was on my very own road trip!

 

 

 

My first car was a green 1970 Volkswagen Beetle and it was off to the races

 

big time. I must have gone to Shenandoah National Park (most people call it

 

Skyline Drive) to hike ten times that first year. We often went to the Drive on

 

family trips, but my parents weren't interested in hiking and they didn't want

 

to stop long enough for me to take one. And of course I stopped at every other

 

place my parents wouldn't stop at when they were driving.

 

 

 

I decided a long time ago that I'm going to drive like a civilized human

 

being. None of this 16 hours at a stretch. What amazes me is that people do that

 

when they're on VACATION. I think I'd rather stay at work! I seldom drive more

 

than 250 miles in a day. And I stay off the interstates as much as I can. I

 

absolutely cannot stand I-81 here in southwestern Virginia. I've developed

 

alternate routes that I use instead.

 

 

 

And I'm always on the lookout for reminders of the old days. A blue roof

 

means it used to be a Stuckey's' a red roof, Howard Johnson's. You can spot a

 

lot

 

of old gas stations by the telltale overhanging porch.

 

 

 

I always look for mom and pop motels. They're cheaper, for one thing. Did you

 

know that the more you pay for a room, the further you'll have to hike from

 

your car? Well, it's true. I can park right in front of my door at a mom and

 

pop. If I go to a chain off the interstate, I'll have to lug my stupid bags

 

inside and maybe upstairs, and the room will cost twice as much. Also, I like

 

having my car right there where I can keep an eye on it.

 

 

 

You might not know what you're getting with a mom and pop, but just use

 

common sense. If the paint's peeling, if the grass is long, or if there are

 

rough

 

looking characters hanging around, I'll move on.

 

 

 

Tom Hoffman

 

Pearisburg VA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest D Gardner

Hi All,

 

 

 

Reading some of these posts got me inspired... so I went digging in

 

my computer and found some pictures of two of our most memorable

 

*road trips* that my wife and I took recently... the first to

 

Yosemite (it was on the spur of the moment--and the only place we

 

found to stay was a campsite that had *yurts*... and yup, we stayed

 

in one... just for the *experience*)... the second was a run through

 

the redwoods and to the coastal highway up Northern California to

 

Mendocino...we'd never been there before... and instead of using our

 

truck--a Toyota beater--we used our Chevy Prizm... nice drive ...

 

great scenery... not much traffic... I've posted the pictures in

 

the *pictures* area (in the panel to the left on this website)...

 

under "DaveGuamAndRoadTrips" ...

 

 

 

As for "driving *MILES*" in one day... I guess back east you can

 

find enough stops and places to stay every 20 miles or so (or even

 

more frequently)... but when driving down the central California

 

valley or through southern Arizona on through New Mexico and Texas

 

or going across northern Montana... places are far and few between.

 

 

 

So, sometimes, to get to *civilization*, you have to drive quite a

 

while just to find a *rest area*.

 

 

 

An interesting drive is going from Albuquerque NM to Alamogordo NM

 

via the *back roads*... the way to do this is to leave Albuquerque

 

East on I-40 until you get to Moriarty (and the huge truck stop

 

there), turn off the freeway and go south-east on a two-lane road to

 

Corona, then turn south on another two-laner to Carrizozo. I believe

 

Carrizozo is Highway 52... from Carrizozo, its a straight shot

 

through Tularosa to Alamogordo. These backroads will allow you to

 

see deer, skunks, owls (big ones!), porcupines, roadrunners, hawks,

 

coyotes, rattlesnakes, and other critters along with some rugged

 

country. You definitely don't want your car to break down anywhere

 

between these tiny outposts... Albuquerque has a population

 

approaching 600,000 folks... and Alamogordo has perhaps 20,000

 

folks... but all the places in between might be able to accumulate

 

4000 folks if they were all called at the same moment and put in one

 

place...

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Dave Gardner

 

Senior Specialist/Writer-Editor

 

Pacific Consultants Group

 

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Guest Cristy

Greetings...

 

 

 

I am a new member to the group. My passion is exploring historic roads

 

and trails. My photos and experiences are vast but I still have yet to

 

scratch the surface of what there is to discover in this great land.

 

My love started with the National Trail/Road, mainly because I grew up

 

less than a half a block away from it and was lucky to live in a part

 

of Ohio where the original milestones were generally cared for and

 

protected. I have since traveled the entire road from Cumberland to

 

Vandalia and photographed as much as I could to commemorate that piece

 

of history.

 

 

 

I posted a photo album that is not yet complete. I am on a mission

 

from God to visit all of the Madonnas of the Trail. The DAR and the

 

National Old Trails Association placed 12 statues along the route of

 

the National Old Trails Highway in the 1920's. They stretch across the

 

country from Maryland to California. I've been to nine of them,

 

traveling east to west. I still need Arizona, New Mexico, and Calif.

 

 

 

I'm looking forward to participating in this group.

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