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May 2, 2007

Hi Ron,

Thanks for the advice and it would be worth it.

Hope all is well with you.

James M Conkle

Preservationist-Speaker-Marketer-Spokesperson-Public Relations-Event Planner

Route 66 Preservation Foundation

Preservation of Historic Roads & Corridors

P O Box 290066

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

760 868 3320

760 617 3991 cell

760 868 8614 fax

jimconkle@verizon.net

www.cart66pf.org

-----Original Message-----

From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of rwarn17588

Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:25 AM

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Road Trip Songs - what do you listen to?

Jim:

The quickest legal way I can think of to get this songs is to download

a free iTunes program from Apple and start buying the songs one by one

for 99 cents apiece. Broadband connection is recommended.

Ron Warnick

Tulsa, OK

www.route66news.org

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jim conkle" <jimconkle@...> wrote:

>

> OK Mike, the same goes for your CD's, I WANT THEM!!!!

>

> No kidding 13 hours of great music. I could not have even taken the

time to

> list all of them, as you have done, let alone copy them.

>

> You guys amaze me with your talents.

>

> James M Conkle

> Preservationist-Speaker-Marketer-Spokesperson-Public Relations-Event

Planner

> Route 66 Preservation Foundation

> Preservation of Historic Roads & Corridors

> P O Box 290066

> Phelan, CA 92329-0066

> 760 868 3320

> 760 617 3991 cell

> 760 868 8614 fax

> jimconkle@...

> www.cart66pf.org

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

> [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Mike Ward

> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:15 PM

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Road Trip Songs - what do you listen to?

>

> Jennifer,

>

> Here is the list of music that I put together for the CDs that I

played at

> the Route 66 e-group get-together at the Wigwam in San Bernardino last

> September. This was kind of a compilation of music that a number of

people

> sent me as well as some of my favorites. There are 208 cuts running

just a

> hair shy of 13 hours. They are obviously not all road songs but

they are

> ones that people wanted to hear.

>

> Mike

>

> Route 66 Nat King Cole

> All Summer Long The Beach Boys

> A Thousand Miles From Nowhere Dwight Yoakam

> Get Some Hackensaws

> Cowboy Take Me Away The Dixie Chicks

> Break Down Here Julie Roberts

> At Last Etta James

> California Dreaming The Mamas and the Papas

> Dancing In The Streets Martha and the Vandellas

> Don't Answer Me The Alan Parsons Project

> Free Bird Lynyrd Skynyrd

> Hey Jude The Beatles

> Hot Rod Lincoln Twangbangers

> All Revved Up And No Place To Go Meat Loaf

> The Painted Desert 10,000 Maniacs

> Rain Rusted Root

> Begin The Beguine Artie Shaw

> Twenty-Four Hours from Tulsa Ian and Sylvia

> 409 Beach Boys

> All I Wanna Do Sheryl Crow

> Amarillo By Morning George Strait

> Big Yellow Taxi Joni Mitchell

> Blue Moon Of Kentucky Elvis Presley

> Bring It On Home To Me Sam Cooke

> Car Wheels On A Gravel Road Lucinda Williams

> Cherry Cherry Neil Diamond

> Day Tripper The Beatles

> Don't Make Me Come To Tulsa Wade Hayes

> Drive My Car The Beatles

> For What's It's Worth Buffalo Springfield

> Gum Tree Canoe John Hartford

> Heaven Scent John Digweed

> Just Push Play Aerosmith

> Kit Kat Clock The Bottle Rockets

> London Rain Heather Nova

> Love Shack The B-52s

> Maybellene Chuck Berry

> M'Toto Zap Mama

> Party Out Of Bounds The B-52s

> Radar Gun The Bottle Rockets

> Albuquerque Asleep at the Wheel

> All The Gold In California Larry Gatlin

> He Reached Down Iris Dement

> I'm Moving On Hank Snow

> La Vie En Rose Edith Piaf

> The Last Trip To Tulsa Neil Young

> Little Brown Jug Glenn Miller

> Lodi Creedence Clearwater Revival

> The Mother Road Alan Rhody

> One O'Clock Jump Count Basie

> Perfidia The Ventures

> Roam The B-52s

> Running On Empty Jackson Browne

> Santa Fe Rent Soundtrack

> Six Days On The Road Dave Dudley

> Take It Easy The Eagles

> Thirsty Boots Judy Collins

> Tulsa Queen Emmylou Harris

> All My Rowdy Friends Are Coming Over Tonight Hank Williams Jr

> Amanda Don Williams

> Amarillo Kathy Mattea

> The Anaheim, Azusa and Cucamonga. Jan and Dean

> Back To The Earth Rusted Root

> Born To Be Wild Steppenwolf

> Come Away With Me Norah Jones

> Dead Skunk Loudon Wainwright III

> American Pie Don McLean

> Girl On The Billboard Wylie and the Wild West

> A Good Hearted Woman Waylon Jennings

> Here For The Party Gretchen Wilson

> In The Mood Glenn Miller

> A Little Less Conversation Elvis Presley

> Mambo No. 5 Lou Bega

> Never Been To Spain Waylon Jennings

> Promised Land Elvis Presley

> Route 66 Revisited Jimmy LaFave

> A Stroke of Genius Christina Aguilera and the Strokes

> There's A Tear In My Beer Hank Williams

> The White Knight Cledus Maggard

> Amarillo Emmylou Harris

> Amazing Grace Judy Collins

> America Simon and Garfunkel

> American Patrol Glenn Miller

> Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain Willie Nelson

> Born to Run Bruce Springsteen

> Here In California Lucinda Williams

> I've Been Everywhere Hank Snow

> Land Of Enchantment Michael Martin Murphey

> Oklahoma Hills Arlo Guthrie

> Old Mojave Highway Kenny Rogers

> On The Road Lee Roy Parnell

> On The Road Again Willie Nelson

> Rofiki Zap Mama

> Satisfaction The Rolling Stones

> Seven Bridges Road The Eagles

> So Nice (Summer Samba) Bebel Gilberto

> Truckin' The Grateful Dead

> Understand Your Man Johnny Cash

> Walk Don't Run The Ventures

> Walk On The Wild Side Lou Reed

> Will Rogers Highway Woody Guthrie

> Angel Delgadillo John Stewart

> I Walk The Line Johnny Cash

> America Neil Diamond

> Come Monday Jimmy Buffett

> Oklahoma Borderline Vince Gill

> Our Town Iris Dement

> One Fine Day The Chiffons

> One Summer Night The Danleers

> Good Rockin' Tonight Elvis Presley

> Speedy Gonzales Pat Boone

> The Long And Winding Road The Beatles

> Truck Drivin' Son Of A Gun Dave Dudley

> Layla Eric Clapton

> Shadows Of The Night Pat Benatar

> White Rabbit Jefferson Airplane

> Blessed Are. Joan Baez

> Coming Into Los Angeles Arlo Guthrie

> Do-Re-Mi Woody Guthrie

> String Of Pearls Glenn Miller

> Willin' Steve Earle

> Gentle On My Mind Glen Campbell

> It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Alan Jackson and Jimmy Buffett

> Another Place, Another Time Bobbie Gentry

> I'm Bad I'm Nationwide ZZ Top

> Lost Highway Hank Williams

> Much Too Young (To Feel This Damn Old) Garth Brooks

> Tell Me Something About Tulsa George Strait

> Those Words We Said Kim Richey

> Sugar Baby Love The Rubettes

> Paradise By The Dashboard Lights Meat Loaf

> Pastures Of Plenty Tom Paxton

> Calling You Natalie Cole

> Two Lane Highway Pure Prairie League

> Two More Bottles Of Wine Emmylou Harris

> All American Boy Bill Parsons

> Life In The Fast Lane The Eagles

> Like A Rock Bob Seger

> She Loves You The Beatles

> Watching The Wheels John Lennon

> Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On Jerry Lee Lewis

> Drive The Cars

> Rebel Rouser Duane Eddy

> Boogie Back To Texas Asleep at the Wheel

> Folsom Prison Blues Johnny Cash

> Margaritaville Jimmy Buffett

> Phantom 309 Red Sovine

> The Everlasting Hills Of Oklahoma The Sons of the Pioneers

> Why Don't We Get Drunk Jimmy Buffett

> Hotel California The Eagles

> No Particular Place To Go Chuck Berry

> Route 66 Theme Nelson Riddle

> Born To Be Wild The Cult

> Hotel Yorba The White Stripes

> Miles From Our Home Cowboy Junkies

> Ready Steady Go Paul Oakenfold

> Rock Lobster The B-52s

> Take Me Home Phil Collins

> White Rose Slaid Cleaves

> Endless Highway Bob Dylan and The Band

> Talking Dust Bowl Blues Woody Guthrie

> Take The "A" Train Duke Ellington

> Is Anybody Goin' To San Antone Charley Pride

> Convoy C.W. McCall

> In Trow/Texas Rode Song The BoDeans

> Thunderstorms And Neon Signs Wayne Hancock

> Tulsa Time Don Williams

> Headed For The Future Neil Diamond

> Teach Your Children Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young

> Twenty-Four Hours From Tulsa Gene Pitney

> Mighty Big Car Fred Eaglesmith

> Stay Jackson Browne

> Walk This Way Aerosmith

> You Shook Me All Night Long AC/DC

> Tuxedo Junction Glenn Miller

> Down The Highway Bob Dylan

> How Fast Them Trucks Can Go Claude Gray

> Sin Wagon The Dixie Chicks

> Don't Worry Baby The Beach Boys

> Rockin' Down The Highway Doobie Brothers

> I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry Hank Williams

> Tucumcari Here I Come Dale Watson

> Old Time Rock And Roll Bob Seger

> Tonight The Rubettes

> Low Rider War

> California Girls The Beach Boys

> Little Man Alan Jackson

> Take Me Back To Tulsa Asleep at the Wheel

> The Dogs Of San Jon John Stewart

> Viva Las Vegas ZZ Top

> Cruisin' Gene Vincent

> King Of The Road Roger Miller

> Me And Bobby McGee Janis Joplin

> See You In September The Tempos

> Summer In The City Lovin' Spoonful

> Twenty-Four Hours From Tulsa Dusty Springfield

> Everyday Is A Winding Road Sheryl Crow

> Island Gerry Rafferty

> Mustang Sally The Commitments

> Pink Motel Cisco

> Deportee Judy Collins

> Rock and Roll All Night Kiss

> Route 66 Bobby Troup

> Sweet Little 66 Steve Earle

> Cadillac Ranch Bruce Springsteen

> Miles and Miles Of Texas Asleep at the Wheel

> Goodnight, Well It's Time To Go The Spaniels

> So Long, It's Been Good To Know You Woody Guthrie

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Jennifer<mailto:jabremer66@...>

> To:

<mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 6:04 PM

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Road Trip Songs - what do you listen to?

>

> I noticed that RoadDog created a database of Road Songs, and

> recently the lyrics to Convoy were posted; combined with my fun of

> creating playlists on my MP3 player for the past 5 or so months, I

> thought it would be fun to start a thread about your favorite road

> trippin' music.

>

> I have both Route 66 and general Road Trip playlists.

>

> My playlist, "Road Trip!"

>

> 1. Johnny Cash - I've Been Everywhere

> 2. Willie Nelson - On The Road Again

> 3. Steppenwolf - Born To Be Wild

> 4. Lindsey Buckingham - Holiday Road

> 5. Jerry Reed - East Bound And Down

> 6. Roger Miller - King of the Road

> 7. Simon & Garfunkel - America

> 8. Sammy Hagar - I Can't Drive Fifty-Five

> 9. Eagles - Take It Easy

> 10. John Denver - Take Me Home, Country Roads

> 11. C.W. McCall - Convoy

> 12. Coasters - Yakety Yak

> 13. Dave Dudley - Six Days On The Road

> 14. Ray Charles - Hit The Road Jack

> 15. Brian Setzer Orchestra - Route 66 (Live)

> 16. Dion - The Wanderer

> 17. Junior Brown - Highway Patrol

> 18. Dave Dudley - Truck Drivin Man

> 19. Ray Charles - Mess Around

> 20. Nelson Riddle & His Orchestra - The Theme From Route 66

> 21. A Side Willie - Old 66

> 22. Two High String Band - Goodbye California (Hello, Illinois)

> 23. Ray Anthony - Peter Gunn Theme

> 24. Randy Garibay, Jr - Sweet Home Chicago

> 25. Asleep at the Wheel - Get Your Kicks on Route 66

> 26. Dale Watson - Tucumcari, Here I Come

> 27. Gary Primich - You Came a Long Way from St. Louis

> 28. Kevin Welch - Willy Rogers Highway

> 29. Maryann Price - Hoppin' in Joplin

> 30. Red Dirt Rangers - Arizona State Line

> 31. Jason Roberts - T-U-L-S-A Straight Ahead

> 32. Weird Al Yankovic - The Biggest Ball Of Twine In Minnesota

>

> Two of them are less obvious "road trip" songs...I included Yakety-

> Yak because it was used in the beginning of "The Great Outdoors"

> when John Candy's character and his family were road trippin' to

> their vacation destination...and Mess Around because of a classic

> scene in another John Candy film, "Planes, Trains and Automobiles"

> as he is driving from Chicago to St. Louis...simply hilarious!

>

> My Route 66 playlist (entitled "Get Your Kicks") of course has some

> of the same songs listed above:

>

> 1. Manhattan Transfer - Get Your Kicks on Route 66

> 2. Brian Setzer Orchestra - Get Your Kicks on Route 66

> 3. George Maharis - Get Your Kicks on Route 66

> 4. Jimmy LaFave - Oklahoma Hills

> 5. Depeche Mode - Get Your Kicks on Route 66

> 6. Bobby Troup - Route 66

> 7. Four Freshman - Get Your Kicks on Route 66

> 8. Red Dirt Rangers - Used to Be

> 9. Alan Rhody - The Mother Road

> 10. Red Dirt Rangers - Arizona State Line

> 11. Kevin Welch - Willy Rogers Highway

> 12. Dale Watson - Tucumcari, Here I Come

> 13. Marcia Ball - Intro/Route 66

> 14. Randy Garibay, Jr - Sweet Home Chicago

> 15. Bing Crosby & the Andrews Sisters - Get Your Kicks On Route 66

> 16. Dale Watson - Gallop to Gallup

> 17. Gary Primich - You Came a Long Way from St. Louis

> 18. Jimmy LaFave - Route 66 Revisited

> 19. Nelson Riddle & His Orchestra - The Theme From Route 66

> 20. Asleep at the Wheel - Albuquerque

> 21. Surfaris - Get Your Kicks on Route 66

> 22. Steve James - 66 Highway Blues

> 23. Cindy Cashdollar/Mad Cat Trio - 2200 Miles

> 24. Asleep at the Wheel - Get Your Kicks on Route 66

> 25. Jason Eklund - What's Left of 66

> 26. Dusty Chaps - Don't Haul Bricks on 66

> 27. LeRoi Brothers - California Sun

> 28. Nat King Cole - Get Your Kicks on Route 66

> 29. Chuck Berry - Get Your Kicks on Route 66

> 30. Jason Roberts - T-U-L-S-A Straight Ahead

> 31. Maryann Price - Hoppin' in Joplin

> 32. Mary Cutrufello - The Long Red Line

> 33. Two High String Band - Goodbye California (Hello, Illinois)

> 34. A Side Willie - Route 66 - 03 - Old 66

> 35. Brian Setzer Orchestra - Route 66 (Live)

> 36. Route 66 Orchestra - Theme from Route 66

> 37. Charles Brown - Route 66

>

> I found a cool link with some highway song listings:

>

<http://www.fhwa.dot.

> gov/infrastructure/roadsong.htm>

>

> I'm curious to hear everyone's favorites, and I will add my songs to

> the database too.

>

> Jennifer Bremer

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We are having an informal get together at The Aztec Hotel on Monday the 27th

of this month from 5 to 7 PM. Huel Howser is planning on attending as well

as many other supporters of the preservation project of The Aztec Hotel.

Please join us for a viewing of the 'California Gold TV show' that features

The Aztec Hotel in Monrovia and Wigwam Motel in San Bernardino. The show is

on at 6 PM.

This is not only a party but a show of support for the Route 66 community in

California.

Hope to see all of you there

James M Conkle

Preservationist-Speaker-Marketer-Spokesperson-Public Relations-Event Planner

Route 66 Preservation Foundation

Preservation of Historic Roads & Corridors

P O Box 290066

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

760 868 3320

760 617 3991 cell

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jimconkle@verizon.net

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May 2, 2007

I use an MP3 player to hold all my music. I have a Dell DJ, which is

a 20GB hard-drive based MP3 / WMA player. Most of my songs have come

from my own CDs or else I purchase them individually from online

services such as iTunes or allofmp3.com.

I really like using the MP3 player and to me, it has made CDs the 8-

track of today. All my CDs would get scratched or start skipping,

and it's so bulky to carry CDs. I have over 2500 songs on my MP3

player, which is about the size of a deck of cards.

All of the music is organized using various fields called ID tags

which classify the Artist Name, Album, Track #, Song/Track Title and

Genre.

It's fun to group your music together to create playlists. I have

playlists like "Road Trip" and "Get Your Kicks" as well as "British

Invasion" and "Retro Vegas Lounge" which has gems by Frank Sinatra,

Sammy Davis Jr., Dean Martin, Wayne Newton, etc. "On a Mission from

God" contains songs by the Blues Brothers or others from the movie

soundtrack. I also have playlists involving specific decades, 60's,

70's, 80's. I have a playlist called "I Love New York" which

contains all songs about New York City, "Living at the Movies"

contains movie themes like Jaws, Raisers of the Lost Ark, James

Bond, Pink Panther, etc...the possibilities are endless.

Jennifer

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jim conkle" <jimconkle@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Jennifer,

>

> WOW! What a list. Now where do I buy the CD's? Really I would pay

to have

> all of your songs on a CD. Of course it is illegal to copy, sell

for profit

> and/or distribute such a CD but between friends you can download,

copy and

> charge me shipping.

>

> I look forward to your answer.

>

> Take care and see you on the road.

>

> James M Conkle

> Preservationist-Speaker-Marketer-Spokesperson-Public Relations-

Event Planner

> Route 66 Preservation Foundation

> Preservation of Historic Roads & Corridors

> P O Box 290066

> Phelan, CA 92329-0066

>

May 3, 2007

http://rwarn17588.wordpress.com/2006/02/18...motels-new-owne

rs/

Ron Warnick

Tulsa, OK

www.route66news.org

May 3, 2007

I had a MGTD - my advice is to take along a lot of spare parts and

expect a significant problem every 1,000 miles or less. I gave my son

condolences when he excitedly called me to let me know of his 1988

Jaguar purchase. Those older English cars have great looks, appeal

and their unique fragrance is seductive - a great combination of

leather and oil - but don't expect them to be reliable. They are like

sailboats; they take a lot of tinkering and love of maintenance. They

are also very much like a high maintenance wife and you need to love

them unconditionally to put up with them and they take even more

attention to their quarky needs.

All my best,

Gene

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Les" <cutflowerguy@...> wrote:

>

> I am about to begin a restoration of my '74 MGBGT. I think it will be

> cool to take the finished product on a year long vacation. Has anyone

> done something like that? Does anyone know where I can get a list of

> arboretuems/gardens, auto museums, plane museums and festivals?

>

> This is going to be grand.

> thanks

> Les Mauldin

>

May 3, 2007

Subj: INTERIOR: Idaho Gov. Kempthorne nominated for secretary post

Date: 3/17/2006 6:57:47 AM Pacific Standard Time

From: StuartG@sema.org

To: , stevem@sema.org

E&E: Friday, March 17, 2006

INTERIOR: Idaho Gov. Kempthorne nominated for secretary post

Dan Berman, E&E Daily reporterPresident Bush yesterday nominated Idaho Gov.

Dirk Kempthorne to take over as secretary of the Interior Department, a choice

likely to be approved by the Senate despite the wide range of controversial

issues surrounding the department and opposition from environmentalists.

Known as a states' rights conservative, the Republican governor was

considered the leading candidate to replace Gale Norton since she announced her

resignation last week.

"Dirk understands that those who live closest to the land know how to manage

it best, and he will work closely with state and local leaders to ensure wise

stewardship of our resources," Bush said in an Oval Office announcement

yesterday evening.

Kempthorne said he would work to improve the fractured relationship between

stakeholders on the divisive issues facing Interior. "One of the hallmarks of

my public service has been my ability to bring people to the table and to work

together to build consensus," Kempthorne said. "I pledge to you and to the

American people that I will continue in that role of reaching out and finding

solutions.

But environmental groups immediately opposed the nomination, citing

Kempthorne's record as governor and in the Senate during the mid-1990s.

"Dirk Kempthorne is Gale Norton in pants," said Chuck Clusen, senior policy

analyst with the Natural Resources Defense Council. "Dirk Kempthorne surely

will continue this administration's 'drill first, ask questions later' approach

to public land stewardship."

Confirmation could be quick

Senators in both parties applauded the nomination and predicted a smooth

confirmation process for Kempthorne, who served one term as senator from Idaho

in

the mid-1990s.

"Everything I know about him tells me he will be confirmed and make an

excellent secretary," said Energy and Natural Resources Committee Chairman Pete

Domenici (R-N.M.), whose committee holds jurisdiction on the nomination.

President Bush "made a fine choice," said Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho). "He is

talented, energetic and understands the issues that surround public lands and

endangered species."

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Energy Committee ranking

member Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.) also praised the selection and predicted

Kempthorne

will be confirmed without much hassle.

Selecting Kempthorne was "a smart and cautious move by a weakened president,"

said Don Barry, vice president of the Wilderness Society and a former

assistant Interior secretary. "The last thing he needs is a draining

confirmation

battle."

The nomination of a former senator could also limit the temptation for

senators to place a procedural "hold" on Kempthorne in order to press the Bush

administration on Interior policy issues, including a proposal to allow oil and

gas

lease sales in the Gulf of Mexico's Lease Sale 181 area, a plan opposed by

the Florida delegation.

Sen. Mel Martinez (R-Fla.) last night told E&E Daily he would use the

confirmation hearings to revisit the lease sale 181 decision with Kempthorne.

"It

will certainly be an opportunity to discuss it more closely," said Martinez

said,

a member of the Energy Committee.

But Martinez demurred when asked whether he would place a hold on Kempthorne

to force the administration's hand. "I'm not going to go there now," he said.

After Norton's resignation, Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) said he would block the

nomination for Interior secretary if the nominee supports drilling in the 181

area. But earlier this week, Domenici cast a stern warning to any senators

considering holds. "It's absurd to think you're going to get major American

policy changes by blocking a Cabinet member," Domenici said, saying he would

encourage the leadership to call for a vote on any hold (E&E Daily, March 15).

Barry said senators should use the confirmation process to press Kempthorne

on several controversial issues from Norton's tenure at Interior, including the

recent rewrite of National Park Service management policies, increased

Western oil and gas development and the proposed $1.1 billion in public land

sales

proposed by the Bush administration in the fiscal year 2007 budget.

"There's no shortage of bad policies that need to be reviewed, and we would

hope the confirmation process gets an agreement from Gov. Kempthorne to review

them and reconsider them," Barry said.

ESA record

If Kempthorne is confirmed, he could quickly become a major factor in the

push by Republicans to revise the Endangered Species Act.

While Norton supported changes to ESA as Interior secretary, she was not a

vocal advocate for them. But Kempthorne was part of a bipartisan coalition that

attempted to get an ESA bill out of the Senate.

"ESA may move up in priority" because of Kempthorne's prior experience, said

Barry, who represented the Clinton administration in 1997 negotiations with

then-Sen. Kempthorne, Sens. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Max Baucus (D-Mont.), and

former Sen. John Chafee (R-R.I.).

Kempthorne and supporters ran into opposition from conservatives who said the

bill did not adequately address property rights or water rights issues and

from environmentalists who said it would severely weaken statutory protections

for imperiled species. The legislation included language to provide incentives

to landowners to voluntarily conserve habitat and a streamlined agency

consultation process (E&E Daily, Sept. 18, 1997).

The bill "would have rolled back different provisions from ESA, but were

nowhere near as sweeping and damaging" as legislation promoted by House

Resources

Committee Chairman Richard Pombo (R-Calif.) in recent years, Barry said.

John Chafee's son and replacement in Congress, Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-R.I.),

has stated the 1997 Kempthorne bill would be a "starting point" for discussion

on new legislation to revise ESA. The Senate Environment and Public Works

Committee may take up legislation to revise the Endangered Species Act soon

after

the weeklong St. Patrick's Day recess.

As senator, Kempthorne was also prominently involved in an unsuccessful

effort to revise the U.S. EPA's Superfund waste cleanup program, and he

successfully led an effort in the 104th Congress to enact the Unfunded Mandates

Reform

Act, which limits Congress' ability to impose environmental and other costs on

states. In 1996, Kempthorne took a lead role in advancing amendments to the

Safe Drinking Water Act to President Clinton's desk for signature (Greenwire,

June 17, 2003)

"During his career in Congress, Gov. Kempthorne earned a paltry 1 percent

lifetime LCV score," said Tony Massaro of the League of Conservation Voters.

"Enough said."

Idaho record

Environmentalists are also concerned about Kempthorne's record over eight

years as Idaho governor.

Kempthorne "has allowed the energy and logging industries to wield a very

heavy hand in influencing how to mange our public lands," said Rob Vandermark at

the National Environmental Trust.

Under Kempthorne, Idaho was one of several Western states to go to court and

challenge the Clinton-era Roadless Area Conservation Rule limiting

roadbuilding, logging and other development on 58.5 million acres of national

forests.

Kempthorne also worked with the Interior Department to remove ESA protections

for the gray wolf in Idaho. He and Norton recently signed an agreement giving

Idaho more control over more than 500 gray wolves in the state as part of the

process to delist the wolves in the Rocky Mountains.

But President Bush cited Kempthorne's success in helping forge a deal on

water rights in the Snake River Basin between the state, federal government and

Nez Perce Indian Tribe.

In exchange for dropping its claim to most Snake River Basin water, the tribe

under the agreement will receive $80 million in cash and land, annual rights

to 50,000 acre-feet of Clearwater River water, and a pledge from state and

federal governments to provide tens of millions of dollars for fish habitats and

other environmental projects (Greenwire, Nov. 23, 2004).

May 3, 2007

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Allen" <abphoto7@c...> wrote:

>

> I have signed a petition that is going around on yahoo to please put

> the groups back the way they were.

>

> http://www.petitiononline.com/kham2087/petition.html

>

> I think that we should at least try this.

>

> Allen

Thanks for the link, Allen. Even though the petition is approaching

18,000 signatures, I wouldn't expect a wholesale change back to the

old format. I'd say the best we could expect is for them to tweak

this new version. As group owner, I was as surprised as anyone when I

logged in the other day and saw the format change. I would've thought

Yahoo would have at least informed the group owners of the upcoming

change, but that didn't happen. The best I can offer is for everyone

to play around on the new version to get comfortable with it....it's

probably here to stay.

Pat Bremer

American Road Yahoo Groups Moderator

May 3, 2007

I doubt that they'll do anything. Another group that I belong to did

move and will eventually close the site on Yahoo. How about something

more upbeat. Anyone planning any interesting road trips this summer?

Allen

May 3, 2007

Indiana and Kentucky officials have announced plans to replace the 77

year old Madison-Milton Bridge crossing the Ohio River from historic

Madison, IN to Milton, KY. It's carried US 421 traffic since around

1950. Although a slightly intimidating bridge to drive compared to

modern bridge engineering, the narrow lanes and ascension to the main

bridge span makes for a careful drive. If you're a fan of old steel

truss bridges and find yourself in the area, it's worth the drive

across and a visit to Madison. The future of the Madison-Milton Bridge

is uncertain once a new bridge is built. It could stay open as a

pedestrian bridge, according to transportation officials.

Article: http://flingk.com/19jmygjd

Bridge pics: http://flingk.com/477a2su

View from on the bridge: http://flingk.com/1860u1du

Madison: http://www.oldmadison.com/

Pat Bremer

American Road Yahoo Group Moderator

May 3, 2007

In continuing the thread on *interesting* street names...

There's a street in Alviso CA (just north of Highway 237 off First

Street--North of San Jose CA <although San Jose *claims* the area as

part of its jurisdiction>)... called

Hope Street

And when you see the *end of Hope Street* .. you are in the Salt

Marshes of San Francisco Bay.

(Just got this nice tidbit from the Silicon Valley Metro weekly

newspaper...) I've been on Hope Street and have explored Alviso a

bit (because I used to work down the street a ways and we'd walk

there for lunch)... just never noticed the street name in such a

way.

Dave Gardner, CCNA, CDLP

Senior Specialist/Writer-Editor

Pacific Consultants Group

793 S Tracy Blvd 131

Tracy CA 95376

http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/davidgardner

http://www.prepaidlegal.com/cdlp/davidgardner

May 4, 2007

Hi Carl,

Thanks old friend the photos are awesome in showing the damage done. No area

is safe from the destructive force of Mother Nature.

Jim Conkle

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Subject: The Springfield Tornadoes of This Past Sunday (Including

Pictures)

To all,

My sister just sent me this wonderful link:

http://www.wnns.com/stormphotos.htm

In it you'll find over twenty pictures of the devastation Springfield

suffered last Sunday night.

In two of the pictures, you'll see that the Lauterbach giant lost his

head.

All three southern Springfield alignments of 66 were hard hit. T66 from

MacArthur to Chatham Road was particularly hard hit.

5th and 6th streets were also hit.

The Dirksen Parkway was also very hard hit.

I was with Beth that night and we were in the basement on 4 different

occassions (beginning at 8pm and lasting until 4am.). It was quite the

night. Beth's place was luckily a half mile north of the most severe

devastation. But our block had downed trees and downed power lines; but

nothing as severe as a half mile south of us. I was thankful that Beth was

so well storm prepared. We had candles and flashlights and were able to

listen to a battery powered radio all night long.

This was the worst storm Springfield has seen in 50 years.

We toured the area the following Monday and it truly was as bad as these

pictures show.

Anyway, I wanted to share this great link and these stark pictures.

Yours,

Carl Johnson

May 4, 2007

Emily and I have taken a shine to U.S. 77 through Oklahoma. North of

Oklahoma City a few months ago, we had a great meal at a place called

Lucille's, in a historic bank building in Mulhall, and enjoyed the

Oklahoma hills.

This time, after a rainy weekend in Texas and a nasty traffic jam

just before the border, we took U.S. 77 north from the Red River. The

highway takes a particularly scenic path through the Arbuckle

Mountains. Interstate 35, which shadows the old road, only hints at

the scenery. U.S. 77 takes you through the heart of it. It reminded

me of the Smoky Mountains. We saw tourist cabins, canoe shacks and

other mom-and-pop businesses along the sweeping bends in the road.

U.S. 77 also cuts through Pauls Valley, which has one of the best-

looking Art Deco gas stations I've seen. It's no longer an operable

gas station, but it looks like someone's trying to fix it up.

We noticed that U.S. 77 had a truck route through town. We found out

why. The regular alignment goes through brick streets in downtown.

Pauls Valley is a charming place; we'll have to check it out more

thoroughly next time.

One of the highlights of our trip on U.S. 77 is the Van's Pig Stand

in the University of Oklahoma town of Norman. Van's in Norman is a

satellite branch of the original 1930 barbecue stand in Shawnee.

Although the Van's in Norman has been there only since 1994, it is

unique because it took the remnants of an old gas station, complete

with the canopy, and converted it. The restaurant also is festooned

with a bunch of spectacular architectural neon. It reminded us of a

similar conversion of a gas station at the original Threadgill's in

Austin, Texas. By the way, the barbecue was terrific. The taste of

the curly-cut fries reminded me of the Cozy Dog in Springfield, Ill.

Here are some Web sites to explore:

www.pigstands.com

www.arbuckles.com

Ron Warnick

Tulsa, OK

May 4, 2007

Yeh - Van's Pig Stand in Norman!!! What a great place. I think it's

an old Spanish style Sinclair station. My boss took me there when I

was in OKC. That's why my current baseball cap of choice is Van's Pig

Stand!

ypsi-slim