Guest Harmon Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 Every journey starts with the first step. Congratulations on the fine work, Scott! Bob Harmon --- Original Message ----- From: Scott Piotrowski To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:36 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Irv's Burgers Update As Glen Duncan said to me tonight, "You win some and you lose some. It feels good to win." And win we did. Tonight the West Hollywood (CA) Historic Preservation Commission heard arguments for and against granting Historic Cultural Landmark status for Irv's Burgers. The City Staff had recommended DENYING the request. However, the Commission, to the surprise of many, voted 5-2 in favor of a motion to recommend to West Hollywood City Council that landmark status should be granted to Irv's. At the hearing tonight, about 35 people (including Glen and myself, and several members of the Los Angeles Conservancy Modern Committee) all spoke. Of those, all but one spoke in favor of Irv's. Perhaps the most persuasive argument tonight was presented by a member of ModComm, who recommended a continuance. His reasoning was that the staff had hinted that further studies should be done to determine historical significance of Irv's to the burger stand culture that is primarily Southern Californian. That argument, in conjunction with Glen Duncan's statement that a survey of landmarks along the Route 66 in California was underway, was enough to prompt many members of the committee to be excited about Irv's more than they already were. There is still a long road ahead for Irv's, the California Route 66 Preservation Foundation, the Los Angeles Conservancy, the California Historic Route 66 Association, and the "Burger Brigade" that formed to help save Irv's. But the journey has gotten off on the right track, first with Peet's Coffee pulling out of a deal and now with the Commission's vote tonight. As Glen said, "It feels good to win." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mockturtlepress Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Greetings to All: Thomas Repp here. For those of you who don't know me, I am the Executive Editor of AMERICAN ROAD magazine. In honor of this group topping one thousand members, I've decided to post a bit early. Usually, you'll find me here immediately after an issue of the magazine goes on press--after I've had time to wash the printer's ink from my eyes and cool my blazing keyboard. Yet this milestone demands a word from me--a very big word, in fact. On behalf of AMERICAN ROAD magazine and our staff, that very big word is "Welcome!" I read the postings from this group every day--usually in the wee hours before I fade my computer screen to gray. Recently, I've seen curious souls asking questions about the origins of AMERICAN ROAD and this on- line group itself. For those of you who are new, I'll do my best to tell our little two-lane start-up tale. AMERICAN ROAD was conceived in February 2002 in--of all places--a hot tub in Washington State. Now, I'm perfectly aware that hot tubs are often employed to conceive other things (call them the bubbling rumble seats of this world, if you like; I'm sure I've at least one niece and nephew who popped out of those suds), but on this particular winter evening, my wife and I were simply soaking and talking about roads. We were talking about roads because we were in the middle of a publicity tour for my book Route 66, the Romance of the West. The critics had been kind. The interviewers had been kind. Stray cats on the street had been kind. Everyone, in fact, had been so kind that I knew I had a calamity on my hands. People kept saying, "Gee, we love the book. Now, tell us: Which road will you take next?" Which road? Ye gads! I wasn't ready for that one! My interest in Route 66 had budded during the years I lived in Chicago and blossomed during the days I called Arizona home. Yet, I finished the book while living in Washington State. That, luckily, would provide me with an answer. I began to remember that--while I had been holed up clacking words into my computer--Northwestern friends had been knocking on my office door. "Route 66?" they'd say. "Why don't you write about a local road? How about US 101? What about the Pacific Highway or that road running through the Columbia River Gorge?" I'd visited relatives in Michigan and listened to their litany: "Route 66? What about the old Dixie Highway? Woodward Avenue? US 12?" Pals in Texas spoke of the Old Spanish Trail. Eastern acquaintances told me to drive my butt through Maine. Finally, the revelation sank through my thick skull: People everywhere were telling me they wanted to know more about classic two-lane drives in their own backyards. So I said to Rebecca on that dark Jacuzzi night (and we're back to the hot tub scene, now), "I think we should start a magazine that covers classic roads on a national scale. You know, all of them." "All of them?" she asked. I nodded. She sighed in the steam and crawled out of the water. "Okay," she said, "I'll get the car keys." My friend Jim Ross came aboard as a partner. Covertly, we met in Arcadia, Oklahoma. We told few of our plans, and found plenty of doubt among those few. One member of a prominent road preservation group asked me point-blank, "How in the world do you expect to cover the nation by yourself?" I said, "I don't expect to cover the nation by myself. I expect to corral the best road scholars in the country and talk them into joining our masthead." He looked at me like I'd been sniffing the exhaust fumes from my Ford Econoline van. But I went home and put out the calls. One by one, the writers came aboard: Pulitzer-Prize nominee Michael Wallis; Lincoln Highway Guru Gregory Franzwa; Yellowstone Trail Czar and Czarina John and Alice Ridge; National Road King Frank Brusca, etc., etc. Everyone seemed game for the adventure. No one told me, "No." Choices were made to keep photo count and illustrative content high on the grounds that a pretty publication would get picked up off the shelves. Once picked up and read, the words themselves would keep customers coming back. I believe this formula worked. Fresh out of the gate, we were named to Mr. Magazine's Best New Magazine List as seen in USA Today. We've been honored to grace a number of other "best" lists since. This on-line group was set into motion when your moderators, Pat and Jennifer Bremer, kindly agreed to set up an electronic forum as an outlet for readers to share road stories. It went live shortly after the National Route 66 Festival in Springfield, Illinois, in September of 2002. It was at that festival that plans for AMERICAN ROAD were formally announced to the public, and our first subscriber--Jeff Meyer--filled out his subscription slip. The premier issue hit shelves the following spring. Today, AMERICAN ROAD is headed from a home office in the Detroit area, a second, editorial office near Seattle, and a third, advertising office near Los Angeles. At present, our regular staff members (not counting our freelancers) live in 13 states. We have readers worldwide. So that, in a nutshell, is the history of our magazine. This post is growing long, but I'll answer a few FAQs while I'm here: 1) Do I need to subscribe to remain a member of this group? Nope. Of course, we're not going to discourage you if you want to give AMERICAN ROAD a whirl, but you're welcome here whether you never read a word or devour each issue like driver Andy Green burning up the Black Rock Desert. You always will be. 2) Do members of the magazine's staff reference this group? You bet your bumpers. In fact, we often watch this group to get an idea what readers would like to see in upcoming issues of the magazine. Occasionally, Rebecca will put together a reader survey and post it here (participation optional). You'll also find her publishing an e-newsletter each quarter and giving away free books via an answer-a-trivia-question-and-win format. We get a lot of books from publishers who want our magazine to review their new releases. You might as well benefit from that. 3) Can I still get the first issue of AMERICAN ROAD? Unfortunately, no. That first issue has been sold out for about two years. You can read it online at www.mockturtlepress.com. Some of the other early back issues are still available, although we're beginning to run out of everything up through Issue #5 (the "High Roads" issue). For those of you who own those early issues, hang on to `em. Not a week goes by that we don't get requests for copies. 4) Was AMERICAN ROAD really born in a hot tub? I swear to Mr. Bubble, that is the squeaky-clean truth. I know, I know . . . it probably should have happened in a Corvette, but I'm told that's how my family got my Uncle Carl, and he's never been a prize. (I'm kidding, I'm kidding.) That's all for now. I will be back in a few days or so with my preview of the Autumn '05 issue. (You can always tell when we're getting ready to go to press--the magazine cover on the on-line group's home page will change.) In the meantime, let me extend my thanks to all of you who are members of this group. Whether you're one of our diehard subscribers or simply a road fan out for an electronic cruise, your participation in this group is appreciated and truly makes me feel this country is filled with friends. Thomas Repp Executive Editor AMERICAN ROAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bill Price Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Tom "Very interesting" to qoute Artie Johnson. We have definatley traveled the same roads. I was raised in Chicago, 1 block away from where US 12 20 and 41 come together. I lived in AZ for a couple of years then back to Chicago and then to Portland Oregon. Small world! Se ya on the rosd Bill Price Lake Chickamagua TN --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "mockturtlepress" <americanroad@m...> wrote: > Greetings to All: > > Thomas Repp here. For those of you who don't know me, I am the Executive > Editor of AMERICAN ROAD magazine. > > In honor of this group topping one thousand members, I've decided to post > a bit early. Usually, you'll find me here immediately after an issue of > the magazine goes on press--after I've had time to wash the printer's ink > from my eyes and cool my blazing keyboard. Yet this milestone demands a > word from me--a very big word, in fact. On behalf of AMERICAN ROAD > magazine and our staff, that very big word is "Welcome!" > > I read the postings from this group every day--usually in the wee hours > before I fade my computer screen to gray. Recently, I've seen curious > souls asking questions about the origins of AMERICAN ROAD and this on- > line group itself. For those of you who are new, I'll do my best to tell our > little two-lane start-up tale. > > AMERICAN ROAD was conceived in February 2002 in--of all places--a hot > tub in Washington State. Now, I'm perfectly aware that hot tubs are often > employed to conceive other things (call them the bubbling rumble seats of > this world, if you like; I'm sure I've at least one niece and nephew who > popped out of those suds), but on this particular winter evening, my wife > and I were simply soaking and talking about roads. > > We were talking about roads because we were in the middle of a publicity > tour for my book Route 66, the Romance of the West. The critics had been > kind. The interviewers had been kind. Stray cats on the street had been > kind. Everyone, in fact, had been so kind that I knew I had a calamity on > my hands. People kept saying, "Gee, we love the book. Now, tell us: Which > road will you take next?" > > Which road? Ye gads! I wasn't ready for that one! My interest in Route 66 > had budded during the years I lived in Chicago and blossomed during the > days I called Arizona home. Yet, I finished the book while living in > Washington State. That, luckily, would provide me with an answer. I began > to remember that--while I had been holed up clacking words into my > computer--Northwestern friends had been knocking on my office door. "Route > 66?" they'd say. "Why don't you write about a local road? How about US > 101? What about the Pacific Highway or that road running through the > Columbia River Gorge?" I'd visited relatives in Michigan and listened to > their litany: "Route 66? What about the old Dixie Highway? Woodward > Avenue? US 12?" Pals in Texas spoke of the Old Spanish Trail. Eastern > acquaintances told me to drive my butt through Maine. Finally, the > revelation sank through my thick skull: People everywhere were telling me > they wanted to know more about classic two-lane drives in their own > backyards. > > So I said to Rebecca on that dark Jacuzzi night (and we're back to the hot > tub scene, now), "I think we should start a magazine that covers classic > roads on a national scale. You know, all of them." "All of them?" she > asked. I nodded. She sighed in the steam and crawled out of the water. > "Okay," she said, "I'll get the car keys." > > My friend Jim Ross came aboard as a partner. Covertly, we met in Arcadia, > Oklahoma. We told few of our plans, and found plenty of doubt among those > few. One member of a prominent road preservation group asked me > point-blank, "How in the world do you expect to cover the nation by > yourself?" I said, "I don't expect to cover the nation by myself. I expect > to corral the best road scholars in the country and talk them into joining > our masthead." He looked at me like I'd been sniffing the exhaust fumes > from my Ford Econoline van. But I went home and put out the calls. One by > one, the writers came aboard: Pulitzer-Prize nominee Michael Wallis; > Lincoln Highway Guru Gregory Franzwa; Yellowstone Trail Czar and Czarina > John and Alice Ridge; National Road King Frank Brusca, etc., etc. Everyone > seemed game for the adventure. No one told me, "No." > > Choices were made to keep photo count and illustrative content high on the > grounds that a pretty publication would get picked up off the shelves. > Once picked up and read, the words themselves would keep customers > coming back. I believe this formula worked. Fresh out of the gate, we were > named to Mr. Magazine's Best New Magazine List as seen in USA Today. > We've been honored to grace a number of other "best" lists since. > > This on-line group was set into motion when your moderators, Pat and > Jennifer Bremer, kindly agreed to set up an electronic forum as an outlet > for readers to share road stories. It went live shortly after the National > Route 66 Festival in Springfield, Illinois, in September of 2002. It was > at that festival that plans for AMERICAN ROAD were formally announced to > the public, and our first subscriber--Jeff Meyer--filled out his > subscription slip. The premier issue hit shelves the following spring. > > Today, AMERICAN ROAD is headed from a home office in the Detroit area, a > second, editorial office near Seattle, and a third, advertising office > near Los Angeles. At present, our regular staff members (not counting our > freelancers) live in 13 states. We have readers worldwide. > > So that, in a nutshell, is the history of our magazine. This post is > growing long, but I'll answer a few FAQs while I'm here: > > 1) Do I need to subscribe to remain a member of this group? Nope. Of > course, we're not going to discourage you if you want to give AMERICAN > ROAD a whirl, but you're welcome here whether you never read a word or > devour each issue like driver Andy Green burning up the Black Rock Desert. > You always will be. > > 2) Do members of the magazine's staff reference this group? You bet your > bumpers. In fact, we often watch this group to get an idea what readers > would like to see in upcoming issues of the magazine. Occasionally, > Rebecca will put together a reader survey and post it here (participation > optional). You'll also find her publishing an e-newsletter each quarter > and giving away free books via an answer-a-trivia-question-and-win format. > We get a lot of books from publishers who want our magazine to review > their new releases. You might as well benefit from that. > > 3) Can I still get the first issue of AMERICAN ROAD? Unfortunately, no. > That first issue has been sold out for about two years. You can read it > online at www.mockturtlepress.com. Some of the other early back issues are > still available, although we're beginning to run out of everything up > through Issue #5 (the "High Roads" issue). For those of you who own those > early issues, hang on to `em. Not a week goes by that we don't get > requests for copies. > > 4) Was AMERICAN ROAD really born in a hot tub? I swear to Mr. Bubble, > that is the squeaky-clean truth. I know, I know . . . it probably should have > happened in a Corvette, but I'm told that's how my family got my Uncle > Carl, and he's never been a prize. (I'm kidding, I'm kidding.) > > That's all for now. I will be back in a few days or so with my preview of > the Autumn '05 issue. (You can always tell when we're getting ready to go > to press--the magazine cover on the on-line group's home page will > change.) In the meantime, let me extend my thanks to all of you who are > members of this group. Whether you're one of our diehard subscribers or > simply a road fan out for an electronic cruise, your participation in this > group is appreciated and truly makes me feel this country is filled with > friends. > > Thomas Repp > Executive Editor > AMERICAN ROAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Melanie M Guerra Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Thanks so much for posting the story of American Road. I'm a fairly new member to this list, and have been toying with the idea of subscribing to the magazine...I hesitate because I currently have too many magazines in my living room! However, after reading your story, I'm convinced...I've been enjoying the posts and people on this list, and of course, I enjoy exploring this country with the top down & the radio up. I've made a point of logging at least 5,000 miles for summer for the last couple of years...and I hope to continue that tradition. I'm going to sign up for a subscription right now! I love the spirit that resulted in this publication...something truly unique to our country. I'm excited about supporting it! Keep up the good work. Blue skies, Melanie in Boston melanie m guerra www.northernlightjewelry.com FREE JEWELRY! Host a trunk show at your home or office & you get 20% of sales in jewelry for yourself! SWEET! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Melanie in Boston, You won't regret a single issue!!!! Happy Traveling. Alex in Maine Melanie M Guerra <dreambigarts@yahoo.com> wrote: Thanks so much for posting the story of American Road. I'm a fairly new member to this list, and have been toying with the idea of subscribing to the magazine...I hesitate because I currently have too many magazines in my living room! However, after reading your story, I'm convinced...I've been enjoying the posts and people on this list, and of course, I enjoy exploring this country with the top down & the radio up. I've made a point of logging at least 5,000 miles for summer for the last couple of years...and I hope to continue that tradition. I'm going to sign up for a subscription right now! I love the spirit that resulted in this publication...something truly unique to our country. I'm excited about supporting it! Keep up the good work. Blue skies, Melanie in Boston melanie m guerra www.northernlightjewelry.com FREE JEWELRY! Host a trunk show at your home or office & you get 20% of sales in jewelry for yourself! SWEET! Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance schools --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vaq45ro Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Good day to all. I recently learned of this site and of the magazine. I have sent in my subscription request but I believe I will not obtain the August issue but will have my delivery begin with the November one. Is the magazine usually available in larger bookstores (e.g. Waldenbooks, Barnes & Noble)? I'd like to get the August edition when it becomes available. Thank you. Ned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Welcome, Ned! American Road magazine is available at some Borders bookstores. Try contacting those near you to see if they carry it. Regards, Pat Bremer American Road Yahoo Group --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "vaq45ro" <emayer2415@a...> wrote: > Good day to all. > > I recently learned of this site and of the magazine. > > I have sent in my subscription request but I believe I will not obtain > the August issue but will have my delivery begin with the November one. > > Is the magazine usually available in larger bookstores (e.g. > Waldenbooks, Barnes & Noble)? > > I'd like to get the August edition when it becomes available. > > Thank you. > > Ned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beckyrepp Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Hi Ned, Pat is right, that various Borders Book Stores carry AMERICAN ROAD. It is also carried at various Barnes and Noble stores, Books-A-Million stores and Hastings. Several newsstand outlets also carry AMERICAN ROAD. I have a list of Barnes & Noble stores and a partial list of other stores that carry AMERICAN ROAD. If you want to tell me your city and state I can give you some stores that you might try. Sincerely, Becky Repp becky@mockturtlepress.com --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Pat B." < roadmaven@a...> wrote: > Welcome, Ned! American Road magazine is available at some Borders > bookstores. Try contacting those near you to see if they carry it. > > Regards, > > Pat Bremer > American Road Yahoo Group > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "vaq45ro" < emayer2415@a...> wrote: > > Good day to all. > > > > I recently learned of this site and of the magazine. > > > > I have sent in my subscription request but I believe I will not > obtain > > the August issue but will have my delivery begin with the November > one. > > > > Is the magazine usually available in larger bookstores (e.g. > > Waldenbooks, Barnes & Noble)? > > > > I'd like to get the August edition when it becomes available. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Ned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bill Price Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Does anyone know if Moe's Restaurants in Oregon are still in existence. She made the best clam chowder ever. At one time she had four places,2 in Newport,one in Seaside and one in Astoria.I have yet to find a seafood restaurant as good as Moe's.Hyman's in Charleston SC comes very close in my fish lovin' opinion. See ya on the road Bill Price Lake Chickamauga TN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eddie M Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Hello y'all! I'm a new member to this group, I travel a lot (business and pleasure), and I hope I'll discover new interesting things about our country, and of course I'll share my own experiences (if necessary!)... As a matter of fact, next week I'll take a trip to Europe, where I'll be visiting some central and eastern countries from the old continent, which means I won't be seen over here too often. kind regards, Eddie M. Need a Miracle? Be Yourself The Miracle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russell S. Rein Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 That's Mo's - still in business w/ 5 locations: http://www.moschowder.com/home.cfm?dir_cat=13368 ypsi-slim On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 22:21:50 -0000 "Bill Price" <hdbillder@bellsouth.net> writes: Does anyone know if Moe's Restaurants in Oregon are still in existence. She made the best clam chowder ever. At one time she had four places,2 in Newport,one in Seaside and one in Astoria.I have yet to find a seafood restaurant as good as Moe's.Hyman's in Charleston SC comes very close in my fish lovin' opinion. See ya on the road Bill Price Lake Chickamauga TN Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance schools YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beckyrepp Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 And, the good news is that they'll even ship chowder to you! So, when you've got that cravin' and you can't get to the coast you can have FedEx bring Mo's chowder base to you--just add milk! :-)Becky Repp becky@mockturtlepress.com --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Russell S. Rein" <Ypsi- slim@j...> wrote: > That's Mo's - still in business w/ 5 locations: > http://www.moschowder.com/home.cfm?dir_cat=13368 > > ypsi-slim > > On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 22:21:50 -0000 "Bill Price" <hdbillder@b...> > writes: > Does anyone know if Moe's Restaurants in Oregon are still in > existence. She made the best clam chowder ever. At one time she had > four places,2 in Newport,one in Seaside and one in Astoria.I have yet > to find a seafood restaurant as good as Moe's.Hyman's in Charleston SC > comes very close in my fish lovin' opinion. > See ya on the road > Bill Price > Lake Chickamauga TN > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877- 285-5434 > WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA > 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@y... POST a message via e-mail, send > it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance > Small business finance > Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance > schools > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldman412000 Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 To those who asked about Petes Cafe-----It really is in Boonville! I was hoping that nobody would notice my error (senility). To the chap in columbia, sorry about the confusion. I hope you didn't spend any time looking for the restaurant. There's a picture of Pete's in the photo section under Jack's photos. It's right there on main street in BOONVILLE right where I left it so many years ago. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim conkle Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Well folks it seems I caused a little bit of confusion. The Clinton event is in June of 2007. Only the Universal CityWalk event has been moved to May of 2007. This is going to be an annual Route 66 event that the first one was going to be this year on Sept. 30 & Oct 1. It was impossible for us to pull this all together and make the event a success. So when I used the word Universal that threw some folks off. The Will Rogers Awards event is a National/International event. So the mix up was with the words used, Hope to see all of you at as many events as you can make but for sure at Clinton, OK in 07. Thanks James M Conkle CEO Route 66 Preservation Foundation Preservation Historic Roads & Corridors P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760 617 3991 760 868 8614 fax 760 868 3320 jimconkle@verizon.net www.cart66pf.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Mateyko Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 I purchased a used Ford Taurus 26 months ago. That day I bought a small bound notebook and have logged all expenses associated with that car except tolls which are not a function of the car. After 26 months of taxes, licenses, insurance, A/C repairs, brakes and everything else, at just over 32,000 mile of use it is at $.46/mile. My calculation used the full purchase price and full sales tax. I did not follow any accepted rules of accounting, the first line entry was the purchase price and the most recent entry was for a tank of fuel. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, drivewdave@a... wrote: > regards gas prices, just wondering what the actual cost per mile > of driving is these days. > > people see the gas prices because it's right in front of them > and it's obvious but to run a car takes more than that of course > > cost of purchase > depreciation > insurance > licensing > repairs > routine maintainence > and of course, gasoline, petrol, go juice > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 I noticed the PBS program that showcased travel oddities, including the Wigwam, was making the rounds of our local TV listings last week or so. Who was that "friend of the road" touring with the Apple iBook? "I think, therefore iMac" . . Chris --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, old.road@s... <old.road@s...> wrote: > > On Aug 27, 2005, at 8:51 AM, Patsy Terrell wrote: > > > We recently stayed at the Wigwams in Holbrook and in Rialto. Both were > > great. > > > Manoj is the present owner of the Rialto Wigwam. He's is active on the > route66@yahoogroups.com list. He is very proud of the work he & his > family has done to return the Rialto Wigwam to a family motel. > > A number of roadies are gathering at the Rialto Wigwam on Sept 14 for > preparation for the San Bernardino Route 66 Rendezvous. I under stand > that there is an informal get together beside the pool that evening. > All are welcome. > > Kevin > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest John W Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 John, that is really something to think about since I drive at least that each year. Wow--almost $16,000 a year!!! Until you remove the purchase price with sales tax. Upon the sale--the difference between purchase and sale price added to overall cost gives a true 'cost-per-mile.' You want to Really get a shock--add in cost of motel and food, minus what it cost at home. But then after all that to get a TRUE cost picture---from the shocking total, you must subtract the sheer enjoyment of our freedom to do all this---we owe quite a debt!!! It is 'no-price' answer. And it is just plain fun. And I am lucky enough to be able to do some of this 'fun' by small airplane. john w --- John Mateyko <rttler21@aol.com> wrote: > I purchased a used Ford Taurus 26 months ago. That > day I bought a > small bound notebook and have logged all expenses > associated with that > car except tolls which are not a function of the > car. After 26 months > of taxes, licenses, insurance, A/C repairs, brakes > and everything else, > at just over 32,000 mile of use it is at $.46/mile. > My calculation > used the full purchase price and full sales tax. I > did not follow any > accepted rules of accounting, the first line entry > was the purchase > price and the most recent entry was for a tank of > fuel. > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, > drivewdave@a... wrote: > > regards gas prices, just wondering what the actual > cost per mile > > of driving is these days. > > > > people see the gas prices because it's right in > front of them > > and it's obvious but to run a car takes more than > that of course > > > > cost of purchase > > depreciation > > insurance > > licensing > > repairs > > routine maintainence > > and of course, gasoline, petrol, go juice > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UKRoads Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Thank you all for your suggestions regarding our trip into Southern New Mexico & Arizona. As always both groups , American Road and Route 66 have come up trumps and given us plenty to think about. It is greatly appreciated. We are going to stick with the Southern route as we want to visit Bisbee & Tombstone, so I'm afraid Show Low & Globe will have to wait another time. Any further suggestions about the roads around the Roswell, Artesia, Almogorordo & Ruidiso guys, I'm still not sure where we should be going in that area? Also, should we just go west on I-10 at Las Cruces or is it worth going south to El Paso and Ciudad Juaraez? You input will help save my wife from endless miles of driving to the wrong place in the wrong direction, she thanks you! Regards Walter from Glasgow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John W Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 My two cents: NEVER cross that border!! not worth the risk!! Plenty to see here in the good old U.S.A. and have any of that worry. john w --- UKRoads <ukroads@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Thank you all for your suggestions regarding our > trip into Southern New > Mexico & Arizona. As always both groups , American > Road and Route 66 have > come up trumps and given us plenty to think about. > It is greatly > appreciated. > We are going to stick with the Southern route as we > want to visit Bisbee & > Tombstone, so I'm afraid Show Low & Globe will have > to wait another time. > Any further suggestions about the roads around the > Roswell, Artesia, > Almogorordo & Ruidiso guys, I'm still not sure where > we should be going in > that area? > Also, should we just go west on I-10 at Las Cruces > or is it worth going > south to El Paso and Ciudad Juaraez? > You input will help save my wife from endless miles > of driving to the wrong > place in the wrong direction, she thanks you! > Regards Walter from Glasgow > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Definitely stay north of the border - don't even go near Cuidad Juarez. Been there, done that. Hudsonly, Alex B --- John W <ipilot66@yahoo.com> wrote: > My two cents: NEVER cross that border!! not worth > the > risk!! Plenty to see here in the good old U.S.A. and > have any of that worry. john w > > --- UKRoads <ukroads@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > Thank you all for your suggestions regarding our > > trip into Southern New > > Mexico & Arizona. As always both groups , American > > Road and Route 66 have > > come up trumps and given us plenty to think about. > > It is greatly > > appreciated. > > We are going to stick with the Southern route as > we > > want to visit Bisbee & > > Tombstone, so I'm afraid Show Low & Globe will > have > > to wait another time. > > Any further suggestions about the roads around the > > Roswell, Artesia, > > Almogorordo & Ruidiso guys, I'm still not sure > where > > we should be going in > > that area? > > Also, should we just go west on I-10 at Las Cruces > > or is it worth going > > south to El Paso and Ciudad Juaraez? > > You input will help save my wife from endless > miles > > of driving to the wrong > > place in the wrong direction, she thanks you! > > Regards Walter from Glasgow > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patsy Terrell Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 I haven't been to Juarez in years, but there's not much there to see as best I recall. I like to travel in the developing world, but Juarez seems to have all the downsides and none of the thrills of say, Nicaragua or Egypt. I'd save the developing world travel for more interesting places if it were me - but that's just me. Patsy http://www.patsyterrell.com for blog, art, cookbook reviews, and more "Bear in mind that you should conduct yourself in life as at a feast." Epictetus (55 AD - 135 AD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John W Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Not sure of the term 'developing world'. I consider us (U.S.A.) to be always 'developing'--not finished by any means. Is that just a 'politically correct term' for something else? Too much fighting, killing, starving, fear and mistrust for my taste. Come to think of it, I guess we have all that here also--why travel, we have it all? Been traveling over 69 years and barely scratched the surface--don't we have it great??? --- Patsy Terrell <patsyterrell@yahoo.com> wrote: > I haven't been to Juarez in years, but there's not > much there to see as best I recall. I like to travel > in the developing world, but Juarez seems to have > all the downsides and none of the thrills of say, > Nicaragua or Egypt. I'd save the developing world > travel for more interesting places if it were me - > but that's just me. > > Patsy > http://www.patsyterrell.com for blog, art, cookbook > reviews, and more > > "Bear in mind that you should conduct yourself in > life as at a feast." Epictetus (55 AD - 135 AD) > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ken Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Walter & Group, Just a little road info input. If this would be one of your routes, On Hwy 70 between Las Cruces NM & Alamagordo NM they would close the roadway down at times through the White Sands testing range while testing etc. It's been a while since I've run that route so things may have changed! It's never been closed when I've rolled on through. But I was informed on my last run through there it was closed the day before for a while! Anybody else in this group know anything about this section or have anymore info about it? Well,.............Hope this helps any! "Happy Trails" Ken, Whitewater Wi. ----- Original Message ----- From: UKRoads To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Travelling Less? Thank you all for your suggestions regarding our trip into Southern New Mexico & Arizona. As always both groups , American Road and Route 66 have come up trumps and given us plenty to think about. It is greatly appreciated. We are going to stick with the Southern route as we want to visit Bisbee & Tombstone, so I'm afraid Show Low & Globe will have to wait another time. Any further suggestions about the roads around the Roswell, Artesia, Almogorordo & Ruidiso guys, I'm still not sure where we should be going in that area? Also, should we just go west on I-10 at Las Cruces or is it worth going south to El Paso and Ciudad Juaraez? You input will help save my wife from endless miles of driving to the wrong place in the wrong direction, she thanks you! Regards Walter from Glasgow Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance schools ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patsy Terrell Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 I thought "developing world" was a commonly used term. Is there something else that's the preferred term? At 01:46 PM 8/28/2005, you wrote: >Not sure of the term 'developing world'. Patsy http://www.patsyterrell.com for blog, art, cookbook reviews, and more "Bear in mind that you should conduct yourself in life as at a feast." Epictetus (55 AD - 135 AD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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