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August 3, 2007

Referring back to a previous post, I also used an iPod with an FM

transmitter that dialed into my car stereo during my recent drive on

U.S. 54 from western Illinois to eastern Kansas. It worked quite well.

I've found that guitar-rock with trebly guitar and cracking drums

seem to do best on road trips. Some of my favorite rock albums of

this ilk are "Girlfriend" by Matthew Sweet, "Listen Like Thieves" by

INXS, "Happy Town" by Tim Krekel, "Echo" by Tom Petty & the

Heartbreakers, "Unchained" by Johnny Cash, and "Talk is Cheap" by

Keith Richards.

I've also listened to the Navajo radio stations in Arizona. One of

the big dogs out there is KTNN 660 AM, Voice of the Navajo Nation.

It's where I heard traditional Navajo songs go back-to-back with

Creedence Clearwater Revival. Very cool. I've also taken a shine to

American Indian music artist Bill Miller (his greatest-hits album is

on iTunes). Miller isn't Navajo; he's from Wisconsin. But he seems to

do a better job balancing folk, rock and American Indian music than

anyone out there.

Ron Warnick

Tulsa, OK

www.route66news.org

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "roaddog_rt66"

<roaddog_rt66@...> wrote:

>

> Jeff Scarbrough brought up another good subject for discussion.

And

> that is really great local radio stations to listen to while

> cruising down the road.

>

> I'll listen to my tapes and cds, but I also like to tune in AM and

> FM stations, the first thing road warriors had to listen to while

on

> the pavement. I can remember trips with my parents where we HAD to

> listen to THEIR music. That was complete agony.

>

> These days, I also check out stations for local color. Sometimes I

> have found out about a great nearby festival. Other times, it was

a

> fantastic restaurant that I might otherwise have driven by.

>

> These days, I have a lot of luck with AM stations in small markets,

> where businesses can advertise for cheaper than on FM. The areas

to

> the far left or right of the dial are a good place to start off

your

> search. Sometimes, just a scan will do it.

>

> Listening to the Navajo stations is something I'm going to do on

our

> Rt 66 trip in the fall.

>

> I remember some great listening we did back in '95 when we cruised

> western Louisiana and heard those great Cajun/zydeco stations. One

> frequency in New Orleans played nothing but jazz and other 'Nawlins

> influenced music.

>

> Another great trip was along US 52 in southern Ohio, along the Ohio

> River. It was just about gloaming and the shadows were casting and

> the hills looming above made the station playing nothing but

> bluegrass just seem to be right.

>

> The Florida Keys have especially great stations. You can find out

> all that's going on and hear some great fishing programs.

>

> What we need now is for some of you road people to give your ideas

> and especially any special shows available while travelling.

Giving

> some numbers would be helpful as well. I didn't write them down on

> our trips, I now wish I had. Perhaps, there are even some good

> parent-kid stories out there.

>

> Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway and Keep Tuned In. --RoadDog.

>

August 3, 2007

I just at at a place in LaSalle, IL that was a former Lums that had great

food and kept the great decor that made Lums Famous...Abes L-P Family

Restaurant...from now on, if I see a former Lums, I will stop...there are a

multitude of other factors, but this one seems as good as any...Tsingtao Kip

----- Original Message -----

From: <Lulupic66@aol.com>

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 2:45 AM

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Fw: Re: [roadsidefans] Finding a good place to

eat

> In a message dated 2/15/06 8:02:39 PM Central Standard Time,

> Ypsi-slim@juno.com writes:

>

> > So, now I turn it over to the rest of you. Is there anything in

> > particular

> > you look for in choosing a place to eat?

> >

>

> For starters,,,,,,,,,,ask a "local," a gas station cashier, motel clerk,

> somebody in a local store. Also, look for a place that have a lot of

truckers in

> the parking lot.

> They know good food at reasonable prices.

> Just a thought here,

> Lulu

>

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August 3, 2007

If you are cruising through Dexter, MO on US 60, you will find several

awesome BBQ joints (the Hickory Log, Dexter BBQ, and the Dexter

Queen)...7,000 people and more smokers per square mile than you will find

anywhere...Claremore OK: The Pits...anyplace that has a moniker "Barbecue

that is" has to be great...and it is...Tsingtao Kip

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From: "J Lance" <bugo@hotmail.com>

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:55 PM

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: [roadsidefans] Finding a good place to eat

> Russell S. Rein wrote:

>

> > When I travel I look for Barbeque, pan-fried chicken and regional food.

> > Most Barbeque is at least

> > pretty good, and many have home-made sides and desserts. First drive

> > around the back of the joint

> > and look for a wood pile. If it's real Barbeque wood should be

involved.

> >

> > Favorite BBQs include the Hickory Park in Ames, IA

> > http://www.hickorypark-bbq.com/ames.html

> > County Line, Austin, TX http://www.countyline.com/index.asp (Also

in

> > Austin - Ironworks & Art's Ribhouse)

> > Johnny Harris, Savannah, GA (perhaps the best sauce)

>

> What is the sauce there like? Is it tomato or mustard based?

>

> > http://www.johnnyharris.com/

> > LC's, Kansas City http://xrl.us/j2f8

>

> I lived in KC for 2 years, and I agree that LC's is probably the best BBQ

> available. You also can't go wrong with Gates BBQ.

>

> > Stamey's, Greensboro, NC http://www.stameys.com/ Lexington No 1,

> > Lexington, NC http://www.hollyeats.com/Lexington.htm

> > Bozo's, Mason, TN

> > http://chefmoz.org/United_States/TN/Mason/Bozo's1066622556.html

>

> Here are some good places in Arkansas:

>

> -McClard's BBQ in Hot Springs. Probably the most famous BBQ joint in the

> state. A favorite of Bill Clinton.

> -Smitty's in Conway. Don't get the extra hot sauce (habanero...nuff said)

> unless you can handle extremely hot things.

> -JoJo's in North Little Rock. It has apparently moved, the last time I

went

> by there it was closed. I did a web search and found a new address, so

> hopefully it's the same good BBQ.

>

> A note on AR BBQ: They tend to put cole slaw on the sandwiches, so be

sure

> to ask for no slaw if you're like me and don't like slaw. The first few

> times I ordered BBQ in KC, I'd ask for no slaw and they would look at me

> funny. I guess slaw on sandwiches is an Arkansas thing.

>

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August 3, 2007

Kip and RoadDog,

One station that immediately comes to mind is KRKE 1600 AM in Albuquerque. For

a good percentage of the day they play OLD, OBSCURE rock 'n' roll OLDIES. I'm

talking about stuff that isn't going to be heard on your typical 30-40 song

playlist oldies station. Almost all of what they play is from the early to mid

1950s by some real off the wall groups and singers. What's even better is that

the DJ that's playing these records has been around long enough to remember most

of the music and is well-versed about the era. If you like old doo-wop or

pre-Elvis R n R, you'll like KRKE.

I will usually search out AM stations when traveling for a couple of reasons.

They are usually easier to pick up when you're out in the middle of nowhere, and

the great majority of them haven't been bought up by the Clear Channel/Infinity

megastation groups so they still have at least a little individualization and

personality.

I remember many years ago, in 1972, driving down I-5 in the middle of nowhere in

the San Joaquin Valley at about 3 a.m., twirling up and down the dial trying to

find something worth listening to, when I tuned into a somewhat familiar voice.

I don't specifically remember his name right now but the 50,000 watts of WLS AM

in Chicago was booming through my radio from some 2,000 miles away. Kind of

like when I used to lay in my bed at night as a young teenager and practice my

DXing on a 5-tube GE table radio trying to pick up stations like KOMA in

Oklahoma City and WOAI in San Antonio.

I somewhat doubt that kids still do that today...

Mike

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To: <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 6:12 PM

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Great Radio Listening; favorite radio stations

when you cruise through St. Louis, three stations worth tuning into are KDHX

(88.1 FM) our local public access station which plays a wide variety of

music (including great blues from 4-6 p.m. M, W-F and a great cajun show 4-6

p.m on Tues) and WEW AM 770 perhaps the most eclectic batch of ethnicity you

will find anywhere (great Polka show on Sundays!). Finally, hats off to

WESL, 1490 AM, a wonderful soul, R and B and blues station out of East St.

Louis with some of the greatest DJ's you will find anywhere.

Proposition for a thread: what are your favorite stations to listen to out

on the road or in your town? I would like to know whats good to listen to up

and down the road...Tsingtao Kip

----- Original Message -----

From: "roaddog_rt66" <roaddog_rt66@yahoo.com>

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:25 PM

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Great Radio Listening

> Jeff Scarbrough brought up another good subject for discussion. And

> that is really great local radio stations to listen to while

> cruising down the road.

>

> I'll listen to my tapes and cds, but I also like to tune in AM and

> FM stations, the first thing road warriors had to listen to while on

> the pavement. I can remember trips with my parents where we HAD to

> listen to THEIR music. That was complete agony.

>

> These days, I also check out stations for local color. Sometimes I

> have found out about a great nearby festival. Other times, it was a

> fantastic restaurant that I might otherwise have driven by.

>

> These days, I have a lot of luck with AM stations in small markets,

> where businesses can advertise for cheaper than on FM. The areas to

> the far left or right of the dial are a good place to start off your

> search. Sometimes, just a scan will do it.

>

> Listening to the Navajo stations is something I'm going to do on our

> Rt 66 trip in the fall.

>

> I remember some great listening we did back in '95 when we cruised

> western Louisiana and heard those great Cajun/zydeco stations. One

> frequency in New Orleans played nothing but jazz and other 'Nawlins

> influenced music.

>

> Another great trip was along US 52 in southern Ohio, along the Ohio

> River. It was just about gloaming and the shadows were casting and

> the hills looming above made the station playing nothing but

> bluegrass just seem to be right.

>

> The Florida Keys have especially great stations. You can find out

> all that's going on and hear some great fishing programs.

>

> What we need now is for some of you road people to give your ideas

> and especially any special shows available while travelling. Giving

> some numbers would be helpful as well. I didn't write them down on

> our trips, I now wish I had. Perhaps, there are even some good

> parent-kid stories out there.

>

> Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway and Keep Tuned In. --RoadDog.

>

> Visit our homepage at:

<http://www.mockturtlepress.com/>

>

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August 4, 2007

My dad traded in for a Caprice Classic, and finally returned to his car of

choice in the 1950s, a Cadillac (a 1989 Coupe de Ville, by then one of the

few large 2-door cars.) Both had long hoods, but by then, carmakers were

rounding the corners and shrinking hood ornaments, so they didn't seem quite

so long. The trend is for the hood to curve downward so it's easier to see

the road, but I really miss a hood sticking way out there, telling me where

the front of the car actually is at.

Brian

> From: <thehinge@magpage.com>

> Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:53:48 -0400

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Fun Run --> Monte Carlos

>

> No, Brian....didn't Cadillacs, ironically another GM

> product, have hoods longer than the Monte's well into the

> 1980's??? LOL.

>

> Matt Smallwood

>> My mom and dad had his and her '77 Monte Carlos, one

>> silver, one blue, each

>> with obligatory vinyl landau roof. We loved them. They

>> ran differently, but

>> each rusted just as quickly as the other.

>>

>> That had to be the last year that car hoods were ever

>> that looong.

>>

>> Brian

>> www.brianbutko.com

>> > From: "brownwho63"

>> <brownwho63@yahoo.com>

>> > Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

>> > Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:56:09 -0000

>> > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

>> > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Going to the Arizona Fun Run?

>> >

>> > While the annual Fun Run is on our list of things to

>> do, we won't be

>> > making the run again this year. Our '77 Monte

>> would love it!...Bliss

August 4, 2007

Yeah, the '76 and '77 models were the biggest Montes GM ever made

and were styled to compete directly with the T-Bird. Ours is light

blue with a white vinyl landau roof, factory-optional sun roof, and

a 350 c.i. engine with 4 bbl carb. Some models in this year came

with a 305 motor and, I believe, you could also get a 6 cylinder but

I've never seen one in these particular years. No rust problem

here. The car is nearly mint and seldom leaves the garage....Bliss

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Brian Butko <babutko@...>

wrote:

>

> My mom and dad had his and her '77 Monte Carlos, one silver, one

blue, each

> with obligatory vinyl landau roof. We loved them. They ran

differently, but

> each rusted just as quickly as the other.

>

> That had to be the last year that car hoods were ever that looong.

>

> Brian

> www.brianbutko.com

>

> > From: "brownwho63" <brownwho63@...>

> > Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

> > Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:56:09 -0000

> > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Going to the Arizona Fun Run?

> >

> > While the annual Fun Run is on our list of things to do, we

won't be

> > making the run again this year. Our '77 Monte would love

it!...Bliss

>

> > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Ward" <flyboy1946@>

wrote:

> >>

> >> How many list members are planning to be in Arizona the weekend

of

> >> May 5-7 for the annual Fun Run?

> >>

> >> Mike

>

August 4, 2007

Ah, Montes. I sort of miss mine (19860. But it

wasn't exactly the most comfortable car for long

distances. I sometimes wonder if it had a suspension

package, given that the engine appears to have been

some sort of special engine. According to the guy I

sold it to the thing was a 305 (which I knew), but had

a few goodies with the block that, he said, boosted hp

up to around 220, 225. 305's in 1986, according to

what I can find, were either stock 150 hp or Camarro

180 or 190 - can't seem to pin that down.

As for the suspension - my '87 Dodge 1/2 ton pickup

rides better than the Monte did.

So what's this got to do with American Roads - Hey,

(ok so after 1970 most were designed to run on

interstates) these old cars were built to run all day

long on the old roads we are interested in. Towns were

smaller, you didn't have a Mickey D or BQ or DQ on

every corner. The older cars on those old roads gave

you a chance to see everything - unless you were a

nutcase like some of us were and drove way to fast for

those old roads. But you didn't have the traffic like

today - except where there happens to be an interstate

to take traffic off the old road, returning it to the

good old days.

Hudsonly,

Alex B

--- brownwho63 <brownwho63@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yeah, the '76 and '77 models were the biggest Montes

> GM ever made

> and were styled to compete directly with the T-Bird.

> Ours is light

> blue with a white vinyl landau roof,

> factory-optional sun roof, and

> a 350 c.i. engine with 4 bbl carb. Some models in

> this year came

> with a 305 motor and, I believe, you could also get

> a 6 cylinder but

> I've never seen one in these particular years. No

> rust problem

> here. The car is nearly mint and seldom leaves the

> garage....Bliss

>

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Brian Butko

> <babutko@...>

> wrote:

> >

> > My mom and dad had his and her '77 Monte Carlos,

> one silver, one

> blue, each

> > with obligatory vinyl landau roof. We loved them.

> They ran

> differently, but

> > each rusted just as quickly as the other.

> >

> > That had to be the last year that car hoods were

> ever that looong.

> >

> > Brian

> > www.brianbutko.com

> >

> > > From: "brownwho63" <brownwho63@...>

> > > Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

> > > Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:56:09 -0000

> > > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

> > > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Going to the

> Arizona Fun Run?

> > >

> > > While the annual Fun Run is on our list of

> things to do, we

> won't be

> > > making the run again this year. Our '77 Monte

> would love

> it!...Bliss

> >

> > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike

> Ward" <flyboy1946@>

> wrote:

> > >>

> > >> How many list members are planning to be in

> Arizona the weekend

> of

> > >> May 5-7 for the annual Fun Run?

> > >>

> > >> Mike

> >

>

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August 4, 2007

To the fans of US 80, the Old Spanish Trail, the Lee Highway,

the Dixie Overland Highway, etc.,

For the past few days I've been tracing the route of

old US Highway 80 from Rodeo, NM to San Diego.

I actually did it in sections and going in different directions.

I drove from San Diego to a point between Yuma and

Gila Bend via the old road on the first day heading

east. I "discovered" quite a few old sections of 1917

concrete. Some were known to others, like the sections

in Descanso and Boulevard, CA, but some I found using

aerial photos before I left. These were often hidden

from the road by brush, but visible from the air.

In a two day trip I drove from Tucson to Rodeo, NM

(and visited nearby Portal, AZ). It seems that there

have been three alignments of the road into Rodeo. I

also photographed two old concrete sections east of

Bisbee, and drove over the old Mule Pass grade

above the 1958 tunnel. The drive on the old section

near Pantano siding west of Benson was also fun. I was

the only person on the road for the whole trip. I also

visited Colossal Cave and photographed the vintage Old

Spanish Trail sign there.

On the last day I drove 80 from Tucson, through

Florence and Phoenix to Gila Bend, and on west to the

point where I had ended the first day's drive. I drove

the "El Camino Viejo"

section where old 80 and US 60 meet. That was fairly

scenic, especially the old narrow Queen Creek bridge.

It had a convenient 1935 benchmark in the concrete

abutment, but I think the bridge is much older.

It was also cool seeing the lights on the Yuma

Ocean-to-Ocean bridge spelling out the name in giant

letters, and driving the one lane bridge that is now

reopened to traffic.

I took hundreds of photos, and I hope to include many

in the new web site I'm developing for old US auto

routes. I have GPS coordinates for several old

sections, and even managed to drive my truck on some

of them. I also found quite a few old 1920-1940 era

benchmarks, and took photos of them. The NGS

descriptions often give clues to where the road was

located and what businesses were in the area.

So far I've developed a tentative GPS driving guide

from Yuma to where the 1930s alignment meets the I-805

in San Diego. I'm trying to sort out all the paths of

US 80 and the older auto trails into downtown San

Diego. I need to get the definitive information on the

changing legislative route of the state highway from

before 1959. I'll do an Arizona guide while I continue

to get information on the California section.

It was a great trip, but now I need a vacation for my

vacation!

Steve Varner

Escondido, CA

August 5, 2007

Morning roadies,

Just wanted to bring you up to date on this huge event. It is going to be

the biggest Hollywood event that has ever happened outside of Hollywood. So

far there are over 200 media organizations signed up.

I wanted to share with you that Becky Ransom from The Big Texan and two of

Fran's girls from the Mid-Point Cafe are going. As is Dawn Welch from the

Rock Cafe. We have heard that Scott Nelson might be joining us.

We all know that Michael is the Sheriff in the movie and so a few of us have

been deputized to join him in Charlotte. Yes I will be there as both a guest

of Disney/Pixar/Wallis and to represent The Route 66 Pulse. So I will have

press passes. I have a photographer joining me so we will have many photos

to share with you afterwards.

If any others of you are going please let us know as we are planning a

little get together on Thursday evening and want to be sure all roadies in

attendance are invited.

Folks what a way to kick off the summer of fun.

James M Conkle

CEO

Route 66 Preservation Foundation

Preservation Historic Roads & Corridors

P O Box 290066

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

760 617 3991

760 868 8614 fax

760 868 3320

jimconkle@verizon.net

www.cart66pf.org

August 5, 2007

Nice pictures...

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/openroad

--

Albert Pratts

August 7, 2007

> Maybe someone out there can get Pixar-Disney to send the site out

> or contact one of the national chains. This would be a win-win

> situation.

I'd suggest that at an Apple store, since Steve Jobs owns Pixar and

Apple. Well, I would if there was one within 80 miles of my humble

small town abode.

>

> If the general public sees the connection to 66, they might just

> explore some of it, and, of course, from there, expand out to any

> old road.

>

> This movie might do for us, what John Travolta did in the 70s for

> disco, country music, and oldies. OK, I hear the snickers with the

> first one, but, this was, and still is, great music. It's the

> lifestyle those who were into it tried to develop that turned most

> people off.

Nah, it's the incessant beat driven style of disco that turned me

off, and look what came shortly after, too.

>

> By the way, my wife, who hasn't seen a first run movie in about 20

> years, plans to see it this week. We bought the soundtrack to it

> and listened to it on our way back from the Munger Moss celebration

> this past week. She is hooked on it.

My wife LOVES Rascal Flatts, and almost died when I told her who

wrote "Get Your Kicks on Route 66" She loved that old

show "Emergency" and the MOVIE "M*A*S*H" in which Bobby Troup had the

very last line.

>

> We plan to visit a local Dog n'Suds (Ingleside or Richmond,

> Illinois) for some of those gooooood Coneys and plenty of ice cold

> root beer to wash it down. Then, we'll drive the short distance to

> the McHenry Outdoor Theater and see "Cars". Now that's a real retro

> night. I can't think of a better way to see it.

Tiny bit of advice, and I'm sorry I'm too late. Take the Sedan rather

than the SUV. I saw it in the Keno Outdoor Theater (Sheridan Road a

few miles north of Illinois), and they made us park the wife's

minivan behind the snack bar. We saw it again (with Pirates of the

Carribean Dead Men's Chest, which was MUCH better than The Break Up,

which we only saw 15 minutes of the first time) in my car (a

Cavalier) and could read the credits, which was the point of Ron's

post! Also, DON'T LEAVE UNTIL THE LIGHTS COME ON! Pixar has a habit

of throwing some cute surprises in the credits.

September 1, 2007

Pat,

Actually, you and I have been in the Route 40 group

together for at least five years, too. Sorry to see that

not many people post to it anymore.

You may not recognize me with the username

mattinwilmington3. I used to use the name hinge11111. I

think someone was booting in a chat room I was in one night

and every user name got banned from all Yahoo services. At

first, I thought someone hacked it and stole it. But

someone mentioned usernames being banned after I got the

second name. So, I have to get a new membership in the

route 40 group one day.

Although, come to think of it, if my name was put on banned

status, I wouldn't get route 40 email, would I? Do you get

any and if so, how often?

Matt Smallwood

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:20:50 -0000

"Pat B." <roadmaven@aol.com> wrote:

>

> Matt,

>

> When we created the group in 2002 (Has it been

> that long?), we did select transportation groups as

> our category, but for some reason we got put into the

> finance section.

>

> Due to the near impossiblity of contacting a

> living being at Yahoo to ask about that (and other issues

> we've had questions about), we've not been able to find

> out why our location in the Yahoo Groups world is where

> it is. But we're glad you found us anyway!

>

> Pat Bremer

>

> American Road Yahoo Group Moderator

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com,

> "mattinwilmington3"

> <mattinwilmington3@y...> wrote:

> >

> > I have a query that puzzles me to no end. Why is

> American Road, and

> > other roadie groups for that matter, in the Finance

> category in Yahoo

> > Groups? Shouldn't it be in transportation maybe?

> Hmmm.....

> >

> > Matt Smallwood

> >

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September 1, 2007

Hey Matt, now I remember. I haven't received any Route 40 Yahoo Group

messages lately either...only because the last post on that board was

November 13!

Speaking of 40, Steve "the fat man walking" is on US 40 right now, and

according to his website (http://tinyurl.com/duo53) he should be coming

through Indy today or Sunday. He's the guy walking Route 66 from SoCal

and branched off on 40 in St. Louis. I might have to take a trip this

afternoon to see if I can spot him & offer him a cup of coffee...it's

rainy, windy, with highs in the upper 30's today. He could probably use

it.

Cheers,

Pat

September 1, 2007

I came across an article saying that kudzu was spreading across

Illinois. I thought that was only a southern thing but in my

travels around the state, I thought I might have seen it growing on

the sides of the road. Evidently, I wasn't just seeing things.

According to the article in GovPro, it can grow a foot a day and

individual vines can be as long as 98 feet and up to four inches

thick. It was originally brought over from Asia during the 1876

Centennial Exposition and was actually planted in the 1930s when it

was considered a wonder plant, just the thing to stabilize eroding

land.

It is a relative of the soybean. It blocks out sunlight and kills

off native plants. Ninety percent of the kudzu is, not

surprisingly, located in southern Illinois, but there is an acre of

the stuff in Evanston, just north of Chicago.

It can host soybean rust which can hurt soybean production which

would be a serious problem in Illinois.

For the article

http://www.govpro.com/ASP/ViewArticle.asp?...106670&st=1

In an unrelated (?) article in Arbor Day Jan-Fed issue, the

publication of the National Arbor Day Foundation, researcher Scott

Lekas in Boston has shown "that by adding an extract from kudzu into

beer, drinkers are likely to drink less and be just as satisfied."

Almost sounds like a beer commercial, "Drink less, enjoy it as

much." This probably wouldn't do much to the bottom line of the

breweries.

Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog

September 1, 2007

Kids have to be entertained 100% of the time today. I don't know of

many restaurants that don't have activities from crayons to full-

blown playgrounds (that look like too much fun, but alas, I am too

old to enjoy them and people might talk). I remember as a child I

wouldn't even consider misbehaving in a restaurant as retribution

would be swift.

I absolutely hate the idea of those DVD players in vehicles so kids

can watch movies while on trips. They really should be looking at

the scenery. At least with the Ipods and Walkman's they have the

option of looking out the window. Of course, on the superslab,

there really isn't all that much to see.

Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog

---.

>

> There are many families who never leave the house, when they

aren't

> going out to school or work, due to these reasons and so they fill

> the time and entertain themselves with these passive activities.

>

> Going on even a Sunday pleasure drive takes some amount of

planning

> and if you have children, even more so, and the destination has to

> have the same appeal as the stay at home entertainment, i.e., the

> trip has to go to Disney World, or some other entertainment

> destination because TV has taught us that it's that kind of

activitiy

> which is pleasure, and if it isn't that kind of activity, then

it's

> boring.

>

> (Lest anyone be mistaken, I don't think that, but I believe that's

> what has been taught by the content of the TV broadcast/shows,

etc.)

>

> John in Maine

>

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, egyptianzipper@a... wrote:

>

> > I've noticed an opposite trend. When I was a kid, we would take

> Saturday or

> > Sunday drives in the afternoon many weeks in nice weather.

> <Snip>

> > It seems like most families don't do this anymore. And they

weren't

> doing it

> > prior to the recent runup in gas prices, so it isn't that. Any

> ideas?

> >

> > Tom Hoffman

> > Pearisburg VA

>

September 1, 2007

There have been somme recent deaths that are of interest to those of

us who love the open road.

Wilson Pickett-- Sang such great roadsongs as "Mustang Sally",

and "In the Midnight Hour". Called the Wicked Pickett either for

his way of singing are off-stage antics. His CD is on my jukebox of

top-ever albums, which will give you a good idea of how I rate his

music. The movie "The Commitments" was about an Irish band's

struggles to play that great southern soul music. Pop a Pickett CD

in and get ready for some good driving. He was 66. Interesting. I

did some great cruising and partying to his music back in the

sixties.

Sanora Babb-- Talk about your day late and dollar short. She wrote

a highly acclaimed book on the migrants from the Great Plains during

the Dust Bowl era which was scheduled to be published, except

someone else beat her to it, and her manuscript was put on the

shelf. Only recently, was "Whose Names Are Unknown" published. I

have not read it, but have heard it is quite good. Probably, the

only person I can think of with as bad of luck would be Elisha Gray

of Highland Park, Illinois, whose patent for the telephone was

beaten to Washington by a couple of hours. That is why we have Bell

Telephone instead of Gray Telephone.

By the way, the fellow who beat her book to publishing was J.S., or

John Steinbeck, to you and me. His book was "The Grapes of Wrath."

Perhaps we wouldn't have the moniker "Mother Road." I wonder what

she called it? She was 98.

Donald Fry-- founded the Fry supermarket chain in Arizona and

California. He opened his first store after World War II. I have

not been out to these two states yet, so am not familiar with these

stores, but I admire anyone who builds his own business from the

ground up.

Jim Gary-- Mr. Dinosaur out in the New Jersey area. He created

many excellent dinosaur scultures out of junk 50s to 70s car parts

and I believe even had an exhibition at the Smithsonian. I

absolutely love to be driving down the road and look to side to see

something you don't usually see. His work fits the bill. If I ever

get out to New Jersey, I'll definitely get out to see his stuff.

Several of his pieces are on display at a children's park in Camden,

and, I believe by his home. He was 66.

Feel free to add anything else you know about these people.

Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog

September 1, 2007

Well, at least it wasn't just destroyed. If I can't have it in its

original place, I will definitely accept another place. I regard

this as a win-win situation. The owner gets the land, and at least,

we get to keep it. RoadDog

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "M. Macedo" <mmacedo9@y...>

wrote:

>

> Greener pastures awaits historic diner

> By David Liscio

> Wednesday, January 18, 2006

>

> LYNN,MA. - During World War II, Lynn residents seeking a hot meal

at

> a reasonable price flocked to Riley's Diner on Boston Street, one

of

> 75 streamlined, prefabricated structures manufactured between 1936-

> 1945 by the Sterling Diner Division of the J.B. Judkins Co. of

> Merrimac.

>

> Like other diners of its era, Riley's was an icon of American life

> and culture, as ubiquitous as the corner store, the barbershop,

the

> bakery and druggist.

>

> Riley's is the latest piece of that era to fade from the local

> landscape, as a flatbed truck from M&M Rigging, hired by the

> Providence-R.I.-based American Diner Museum, was scheduled this

> morning to lift and whisk Riley's Diner away to its new home in

New

> Hampshire, where it will be restored

>

> According to Daniel Zilka, spokesman for the American Diner

Museum,

> Riley's Diner, and the historic streamliner Salem Diner in Salem,

are

> among the few remaining Sterling-made models.

>

> Zilka said the coordinated removal and demolition in Lynn freed up

> the commercial site and also saved the diner.

>

> http://www.thedailyitemoflynn.com/news/vie...articleid=11093

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