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Hey Allen:

 

 

 

 

 

I just did 61 from New Orleans to Canada....most of the origibnal twlanes in

 

the south are marked 61 Highway....and are the main streets through

 

towns....expecialli in Mississippi

 

 

 

 

 

its a great ride.....enjoy

 

 

 

tim

 

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From: airfrogusmc <abphoto7@attbi.com>

 

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:24 AM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Newbee on board

 

 

 

 

 

> Hi everyone,

 

>

 

> I kinda found ya by accident but I'm glad that I did. I have traveled

 

> 66 several times. The first time was in I was about 6 years old

 

> (1961) with my family. Took a 3 week road trip in 1992 and a shorter

 

> trips in 94 and again in 96. Just did Illinois in 99. Traveled the

 

> route through Carlinville (Illinois 4) and found the old brick

 

> sections. In 94 and again in 2001 was at the base of La Bajada (New

 

> Mexico) wishing I

 

> had 4 wheel drive. I'll try and post some photos in the near future

 

> if anyone is interested. Remnants of the past are vanishing rapidly.

 

> Santo Domingo trading post burned down a few years ago as did Pop

 

> Hick's.

 

> When ever I have time I try and explore old

 

> highways. I've taken 41 from Chicago to Copper Harbor Mich. Next big

 

> road trip will be 61 to New Orleans. And advice on where to find old

 

> maps to follow the old two lane sections?

 

>

 

> Allen

 

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Guest Pat B.

Those are fantastic photos. A lot of recognized locations there. I see

 

in the "Railroad Overhead" picture a much younger Seaba Station in the

 

background.

 

 

 

Pat B.

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "J Lance" <bugo@h...> wrote:

 

> http://www.okladot.state.ok.us/memorial/route66/route66.htm

 

> and

 

> http://www.okladot.state.ok.us/hqdiv/p-r-d...ftime/index.htm

 

>

 

> Very nicely done.

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Guest Alex Burr

Allen,

 

 

 

A great book to get ready for your Route 61 trip

 

is,

 

"Highway 61 - A Father and Son Journey Through the

 

Middle of America".

 

It's got a copyright date of 2003, so should be able

 

to find it online - yes, it is available at

 

www.amazon.com (simply type Highway 61 in the search

 

box) for around $17.

 

Good read and give you some insights into the road.

 

Those sections I've traveled over I've had no trouble

 

staying with the old road - very little of it has been

 

"contaminated" with interstateitis - in the

 

Minneapolis/St. Paul area I-35 dominates; co-joins

 

with U S 14 south of Winona, MN, and I-90 from Dakota

 

to I-90 exit 275 area - but the old road may still be

 

there. I haven't been over that part.

 

It remains co-joined to U S 14 down to the

 

Readstown, WI, area where it co-joins WI 131 south.

 

South of Lancaster, WI, it appears to co-join with WI

 

35 south. South of Dickeyville, WI, it co-joins U S

 

151. South of Dubuque it co-joins U S 151 and U S 52.

 

 

 

Anyway, I recommend Microsoft Streets and Trips 2003

 

- you can get a good idea of what goes where and even

 

map out our trip with little problem.

 

 

 

Have a great trip - and especially look for the arch

 

over the road on the AR/MO line (just be careful to

 

watch the road too - it does make a couple of good

 

bends at that point. LOL

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- airfrogusmc <abphoto7@attbi.com> wrote:

 

> Hi everyone,

 

>

 

> I kinda found ya by accident but I'm glad that I

 

> did. I have traveled

 

> 66 several times. The first time was in I was about

 

> 6 years old

 

> (1961) with my family. Took a 3 week road trip in

 

> 1992 and a shorter

 

> trips in 94 and again in 96. Just did Illinois in

 

> 99. Traveled the

 

> route through Carlinville (Illinois 4) and found the

 

> old brick

 

> sections. In 94 and again in 2001 was at the base of

 

> La Bajada (New

 

> Mexico) wishing I

 

> had 4 wheel drive. I'll try and post some photos in

 

> the near future

 

> if anyone is interested. Remnants of the past are

 

> vanishing rapidly.

 

> Santo Domingo trading post burned down a few years

 

> ago as did Pop

 

> Hick's.

 

> When ever I have time I try and explore old

 

> highways. I've taken 41 from Chicago to Copper

 

> Harbor Mich. Next big

 

> road trip will be 61 to New Orleans. And advice on

 

> where to find old

 

> maps to follow the old two lane sections?

 

>

 

> Allen

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Pat B.

Hey Denny, great road report. We too traversed parts of US 60 on

 

Monday east of Springfield. After we left the Rest Haven Monday

 

morning, we decided to head south on US 65 to see what's going on in

 

Branson, since we'd never been there before. Well, the $3.99 all you

 

can eat breakfast buffet was worth the 45 minute drive itself.

 

 

 

Leaving Branson, we meandered our way northeast and hooked up with 60

 

east of Springfield and took it to US 63 where we took it north to

 

Rolla. There are some decent remnants of severed US 63 on both side

 

of the current 63 between US 60 & Rolla.

 

 

 

I'll be slabbing it down your way on 74 Friday night enroute to

 

Lexington for the national Corvair convention which starts today.

 

It's at the Radisson if you have time between now & Saturday night.

 

 

 

Pat in Speedway

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Guest Allen Bourgeois

Lets see if I can e-mail these. I took these a few years. The shot in the photos

 

file of the mission at Laguna Pueblo was taken in 2001.

 

Allen

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Fred M. Cain"

 

<fredmcain@b...> wrote:

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Reynolds"

 

> <roustabout@s...> wrote:

 

> > The governor of Pennsylvania has declared that the

 

estimated

 

> 45

 

> > million dollars needed to rebuild the bridge would be better

 

spent

 

> > elsewhere. The only rail traffic using the bridge was a little

 

> > tourist train.

 

>

 

> Oh really? I thought it was also used by a short-line that

 

provided

 

> local rail freight service. What are the rail-freight customers

 

> doing? Are they just going to abandon the entire line, then?

 

>

 

> -Fred M. Cain

 

 

 

 

 

I have searched the web and have found no references to any

 

rail traffic across the Kinzua Bridge other than the Knox, Kane and

 

Kinzua Railroad, the line offering tourist excursions. One web page

 

made this statement..." No train crossed the bridge between June 21,

 

1959 and 1987. The Knox, Kane, Kinzua Raiload, formed in 1986, now

 

offers excursion rides from Marienville to the park..."

 

http://www.colliganrealty.com/kzb.html

 

 

 

I recognize this does not constitute proof of my statement. If

 

my comment was inaccurate, I regret it.

 

 

 

Information regarding the decision not to rebuild the bridge

 

can be found at http://www.kinzuabridgeonline.com/news.php??

 

action=view&id=22. This page is dated April, 2004.

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Guest tim steil

also....

 

 

 

keep an eye out for

 

"Highway 61 Revisited: 1699 miles from New Orleans to Pigeon River"

 

 

 

due this october from Motorbooks Intl.

 

 

 

ts

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Alex Burr <hester_nec@yahoo.com>

 

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 1:34 PM

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Newbee on board

 

 

 

 

 

> Allen,

 

>

 

> A great book to get ready for your Route 61 trip

 

> is,

 

> "Highway 61 - A Father and Son Journey Through the

 

> Middle of America".

 

> It's got a copyright date of 2003, so should be able

 

> to find it online - yes, it is available at

 

> www.amazon.com (simply type Highway 61 in the search

 

> box) for around $17.

 

> Good read and give you some insights into the road.

 

> Those sections I've traveled over I've had no trouble

 

> staying with the old road - very little of it has been

 

> "contaminated" with interstateitis - in the

 

> Minneapolis/St. Paul area I-35 dominates; co-joins

 

> with U S 14 south of Winona, MN, and I-90 from Dakota

 

> to I-90 exit 275 area - but the old road may still be

 

> there. I haven't been over that part.

 

> It remains co-joined to U S 14 down to the

 

> Readstown, WI, area where it co-joins WI 131 south.

 

> South of Lancaster, WI, it appears to co-join with WI

 

> 35 south. South of Dickeyville, WI, it co-joins U S

 

> 151. South of Dubuque it co-joins U S 151 and U S 52.

 

>

 

> Anyway, I recommend Microsoft Streets and Trips 2003

 

> - you can get a good idea of what goes where and even

 

> map out our trip with little problem.

 

>

 

> Have a great trip - and especially look for the arch

 

> over the road on the AR/MO line (just be careful to

 

> watch the road too - it does make a couple of good

 

> bends at that point. LOL

 

>

 

> Hudsonly,

 

> Alex B

 

>

 

> --- airfrogusmc <abphoto7@attbi.com> wrote:

 

> > Hi everyone,

 

> >

 

> > I kinda found ya by accident but I'm glad that I

 

> > did. I have traveled

 

> > 66 several times. The first time was in I was about

 

> > 6 years old

 

> > (1961) with my family. Took a 3 week road trip in

 

> > 1992 and a shorter

 

> > trips in 94 and again in 96. Just did Illinois in

 

> > 99. Traveled the

 

> > route through Carlinville (Illinois 4) and found the

 

> > old brick

 

> > sections. In 94 and again in 2001 was at the base of

 

> > La Bajada (New

 

> > Mexico) wishing I

 

> > had 4 wheel drive. I'll try and post some photos in

 

> > the near future

 

> > if anyone is interested. Remnants of the past are

 

> > vanishing rapidly.

 

> > Santo Domingo trading post burned down a few years

 

> > ago as did Pop

 

> > Hick's.

 

> > When ever I have time I try and explore old

 

> > highways. I've taken 41 from Chicago to Copper

 

> > Harbor Mich. Next big

 

> > road trip will be 61 to New Orleans. And advice on

 

> > where to find old

 

> > maps to follow the old two lane sections?

 

> >

 

> > Allen

 

> >

 

> >

 

>

 

>

 

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Guy and gals,

 

 

 

I also put some photos of the Cumbres Toltec railroad that I took in

 

and around Chama New Mexico in 92. They're in the photos section

 

under Cumbres Toltec..

 

 

 

Allen

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I live in the WNY area, just over the PA line, and I know for a fact

 

that the tourist railroad is the ONLY line using the bridge.

 

In fact, the tourist railroad still goes to the bridge where patrons may

 

disembark and view the bridge and the adjoining park area.

 

 

 

Carol

 

 

 

Bob Reynolds wrote:

 

 

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Fred M. Cain"

 

> <fredmcain@b...> wrote:

 

> > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Reynolds"

 

> > <roustabout@s...> wrote:

 

> > > The governor of Pennsylvania has declared that the

 

> estimated

 

> > 45

 

> > > million dollars needed to rebuild the bridge would be better

 

> spent

 

> > > elsewhere. The only rail traffic using the bridge was a little

 

> > > tourist train.

 

> >

 

> > Oh really? I thought it was also used by a short-line that

 

> provided

 

> > local rail freight service. What are the rail-freight customers

 

> > doing? Are they just going to abandon the entire line, then?

 

> >

 

> > -Fred M. Cain

 

>

 

>

 

> I have searched the web and have found no references to any

 

> rail traffic across the Kinzua Bridge other than the Knox, Kane and

 

> Kinzua Railroad, the line offering tourist excursions. One web page

 

> made this statement..." No train crossed the bridge between June 21,

 

> 1959 and 1987. The Knox, Kane, Kinzua Raiload, formed in 1986, now

 

> offers excursion rides from Marienville to the park..."

 

> http://www.colliganrealty.com/kzb.html

 

>

 

> I recognize this does not constitute proof of my statement. If

 

> my comment was inaccurate, I regret it.

 

>

 

> Information regarding the decision not to rebuild the bridge

 

> can be found at http://www.kinzuabridgeonline.com/news.php??

 

> action=view&id=22. This page is dated April, 2004.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

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In a message dated 6/15/04 4:42:01 PM Central Daylight Time,

 

ron@collectingbuzz.com writes:

 

 

 

<< From: "Rick Schmigle" <route66@webzone.net>

 

Subject: Meadow Gold Sign is Coming Down

 

Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:13:42 -0500

 

 

 

As you all know... this is not new news. But we now have a specific

 

of when.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I got this mail from another group I belong to. Here is another neon sign

 

being saved on RT 66.

 

 

 

Tomorrow (Wednesday, June 16th), Claude Neon and Ark Wrecking will

 

start dismantling the Meadow Gold letters at 9:00am. If there is

 

only slight rain (drizzle), then they will get on the roof at 11th

 

and S Lewis. If it is raining, or if there is any lightning and

 

thunder - the sign is safe for another day.

 

 

 

Get there early - get a curbside seat and... bring your camera! It

 

should be a circus seldom seen.

 

 

 

The sign is safe, and will be stored until a permanent location can

 

be found, AND money raised to complete it's restoration. So please

 

send or bring some donations for the sign.

 

 

 

You saved it, now it's time to get it restored.

 

 

 

You can send your donation (large or small) to:

 

TFA/Save theSign

 

c/o Tulsa Foundation for Architecture

 

2210-R S. Main St

 

Tulsa, OK 74114

 

 

 

Please send what you can. We have received over $8,300 toward the

 

restoration. We collected over $200 at last weekend's Route 66

 

Festival!!

 

 

 

Please pass this message on to anyone interested in Tulsa, Oklahoma,

 

Route 66, Neon, Restoration, Nostalgia, Saving things, or even a

 

friend. We need your continued help and support. Please pass it on

 

to any media connections you have too.

 

 

 

If you have any questions, please don't hesistate to call me.

 

 

 

Thank you!

 

Rick...

 

 

 

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On another Yahoo group, renowned roadologist Mark Potter recently

 

posted some "fast facts" mainly related to Route 66. This one is a

 

bit more universal concerning highway history:

 

 

 

<BEGIN QUOTE>

 

 

 

Some Fast Facts about Route 66.

 

 

 

--Raised black asphalt strips were used as centerline markings of

 

highways years before painted white or yellow striping became

 

standardized. Route 66 featured this type of centerline marking in

 

Illinois, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas and Arizona.

 

 

 

<END QUOTE>

 

 

 

One of my interests as I delve into the history of highway building

 

is the evolution of the methods used to mark and sign the roads over

 

the years. When I read Mark's post, it clicked with some of the

 

things I have come across when I read the Annual Reports of the

 

Division of Highways of Illinois.

 

 

 

The Illinois Division claimed to have been the first to

 

use this black asphalt strip as a centerline. Here is a quote from

 

the Annual Report of the division from 1922:

 

 

 

"After the adoption of the standard section providing for the

 

construction joint down the center of our newly constructed

 

pavement, it became very evident that this joint would have to be

 

poured with asphaltic or other material the same as all other

 

construction and contraction cracks. An experiment was carried on

 

whereby a strip of five inches of asphaltic material was poured,

 

which not only protected construction joints, but served as a

 

traffic line. After a careful examination it was found that this

 

traffic line was very beneficial to the traveling public thus

 

enabling them to better judge their position and distance on the

 

pavement.

 

"The greater part of the Federal Aid roads were marked in this

 

manner last year and arrangements have been made to so mark all

 

pavements this year."

 

 

 

One year later, the 1923 Annual Report gives us a bit more detail:

 

 

 

"A machine has been designed by the department for placing this

 

traffic line. This machine is towed by the patrolman's truck and is

 

guided from the edge of the pavement, which results in the securing

 

of a uniform, correctly-spaced line down the center of the pavement.

 

All pavements which were opened to traffic during the year were

 

marked in this manner."

 

 

 

"The patrolman" was not a police officer--he was a "maintenance

 

patrolman" who was assigned a 20-mile section of road to maintain.

 

In the 1924 report, we learn that the line had to be "renewed" each

 

year. The 1925 report tells us that placing the line could be done

 

at the rate of 20 miles in one day with "an ordinary crew at an

 

average cost of $9.72 per mile including labor and materials." The

 

cost dropped to $6.60 per mile in the 1926 report.

 

 

 

The first mention of painted traffic lines appears in the 1930

 

report. "In the vicinity of Chicago, white and orange zone marking

 

paint was used in marking four-lane traffic lines. Orange paint was

 

used to mark the center and white paint for the two outer lanes. The

 

use of different colors enables the drivers to distinguish the

 

lanes, especially at night. The cost of painting varies from eight

 

to ten dollars per line per mile. The asphalt line remains in good

 

condition for more than a year and the white and orange paint lines

 

for about three months."

 

 

 

The asphalt lines seem to have persisted through the early 1930s,

 

although information is spotty in the reports through 1933.

 

 

 

I have posted to pictures from the Annual reports in the Photos

 

section of the American Road Yahoo Group site. To view them, log

 

onto the site, go to the Photos section, and look in the folder

 

named "Windy City Road Warrior." One photo shows a section of

 

Illinois State Highway 4 and 24 north of Springfield in 1927. The

 

asphalt center line is clearly visible. This, of course, would have

 

also been US 66.

 

 

 

The other photo is from the 1923 Annual Report showing the machine

 

used to place the asphalt center lines on the pavement.

 

 

 

Dave Clark

 

Windy City Road Warrior

 

http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com

 

dave@windycityroadwarrior.com

 

312-432-1284

 

843 W. Adams Street #312

 

Chicago, IL 60607-3017

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Hi just fould this while looking for somthing on the Pantagraph web site.John

 

Geske and partner JP Walters statred somthing 75 years ago that still arould

 

today the Dixie in McLean. Closed for only for few hours becuse of fire in 1965.

 

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<newslibrary@newsbank.com>

 

To: rt66roadologist@comcast.net

 

Subject: Bloomington Pantagraph Document

 

Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:03:05 -0400 (EDT)

 

 

 

Bloomington Pantagraph

 

 

 

Pantagraph, The (Bloomington, IL)

 

 

 

June 27, 2003

 

 

 

DEATHS

 

 

 

Section: Obituaries

 

Estimated printed pages: 2

 

 

 

Article Text:

 

John W. Geske

 

 

 

BLOOMINGTON - The funeral of John W. Geske, 98, of 2025 E. Lincoln St.,

 

Bloomington, will be at 11 a.m. Monday at Calvert & Metzler Memorial Home,

 

Bloomington. The Rev. David Gaffron will officiate. Private entombment will be

 

in Park Hill Mausoleum, Bloomington. Visitation will be for an hour before the

 

service Monday at the memorial home.

 

 

 

He died at 2:15 a.m. Wednesday (June 25, 2003) at Martin Health Center,

 

Bloomington.

 

 

 

Memorials may be made to Wesley United Methodist Church Renovation Fund,

 

Bloomington, or Shriners Hospitals for Children.

 

 

 

He was born May 29, 1905, at Holder, a son of Albert and Gertrude Schacht

 

Geske. He married Viola Walters on July 9, 1924, in Bloomington. She died Aug.

 

24, 1992.

 

 

 

Survivors include two daughters, Charlotte Jean "C.J." (Charles) Beeler and

 

Donna Mae (Ted) Jordan, both of Bloomington; five grandchildren, Judy (Bob)

 

Kjellander, Springfield; Mark (Kathy) Beeler, Lake Ozark, Mo.; David (Penny)

 

Beeler, Apex, N.C.; J. Steven (Jennifer) Jordan and Catherine Jean (Jeff)

 

Greeneberg, both of Bloomington; 12 great-grandchildren; and a

 

great-great-grandson.

 

 

 

His parents, three brothers and six sisters also preceded him in death.

 

 

 

John was co-founder of Shirley Oil & Supply Co., currently Dixie Truckers Home.

 

He was listed in the 1972-1973 Who's Who in Finance & Industry. In 1990, he and

 

the late J.P. Walters were inducted into the Route 66 Hall of Fame at the Dixie

 

Truckers Home, McLean.

 

 

 

John was a 50-year member of the Wade Barney Lodge 512 AF & AM and past master

 

of Shirley Masonic Lodge, now affiliated with the Wade Barney Lodge. He received

 

the Double Eagle Award by the Supreme Council, which is for distinguished

 

benefactors of the Scottish Rite Museum of Our National Heritage Endowment Fund.

 

He was three times patron of the Shirley Eastern Star 870; charter member of

 

Dagenhart Chapter of Demolay; and past member of Bloomington Kiwanis Club and an

 

international delegate to the convention in 1948. He was a member of Bloomington

 

Consistory and its 600 Club, and served on the reception committee for 28 years.

 

He was a member of McLean County Shrine Club and its Black Camel Club. He was a

 

50-year member of Mohammed Shrine, Peoria; White Shrine of Jerusalem, Royal &

 

Select Masters of Illinois 72; Royal Arch Masons of Illinois Chapter 26; and

 

Assembly of Clinton Council 74.

 

 

 

He was a member of the Bloomington Country Club, Elks Lodge 281 and Wesley

 

United Methodist Church, Bloomington.

 

 

 

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My husband is an ultra trail runner and has been considering running

 

the Wasatch 100 mile endurance run in Utah. I know it gets very hot

 

up that way. Much as I want to drive Utah again, I'm not sure I want

 

him to attempt such a brutal race.

 

 

 

Much of my 'country' road driving is during and before he runs a 50

 

or 100 mile trail run. His sport gives me a unique opportunity to

 

indulge my love of country roads.

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <homiechris2000@y...>

 

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> I believe where you were "lost" is now part of or very near to

 

Grand

 

> Staircase-Escalante National Monument. I have never been there,

 

> sounds like a good road trip for me. I will wait until fall,

 

> though, as it is now nearing 100? in the shade here in my little

 

> town.

 

>

 

> Utah has only two interstate highways, I-15 and I-70. We are lucky

 

> that way as the rest of the state is criss-crossed by two lane

 

> roads.

 

>

 

> Chris

 

>

 

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> > 1973, and we were, well, we were lost. We been search for and

 

> found

 

> > a national forest campsite when out of curiosity we kept driving

 

> and

 

> > ended up on some open grazing range. It was the first time my

 

> > husband had seen an actual herd of cattle; seems we were on or

 

> near a

 

> > place called Boulder Mountain. After we got through the cattle I

 

> > thought we'd found paradise. It was really lovely.

 

> >

 

> > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Chris"

 

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> > > to all. I live in southeast Utah. Nice to meet you all!

 

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> > >

 

> > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jennifer"

 

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> > > > Hi Denny! The light bulb went off last night and I thought

 

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Guest rt66roadologist@comcast.net

Here is something else the Pantagraph.Jeff

 

---------------------- Forwarded Message: ---------------------

 

From: rt66roadologist@comcast..net

 

To: rt66roadologist@comcast.net

 

Subject: Suggestion from jeff

 

Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 05:49:28 GMT

 

 

 

Hi jeff,

 

 

 

jeff stopped by Pantagraph.com

 

and suggested that you visit the following URL:

 

 

 

http://www.pantagraph.com/ent/feature.html

 

 

 

Pantagraph.com

 

 

 

http://www.pantagraph.com

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Guest brownwho63

Navigator and I just returned from a weekend trip on U.S. 40 to Indy

 

where we watched Katie Smith and the MN Lynx "thrash" the Fever at

 

Conseco Fieldhouse. Stayed at the Hampton Inn Hotel on Meridian and

 

Maryland and were able to walk to Conseco and enjoy the downtown

 

ambiance before and after the

 

game.

 

 

 

Anyway, we drove all of the old, old alignments again that we could

 

find including the ones across forties(?) bridges crossing Deer Creek

 

and Walnut Creek -- east of Brazil somewhere. Also noticed that the

 

drive-in movie marquee just west of Plainfield is gone, even though

 

it was there a year ago. Hate to see the old stuff like that go but

 

know it happens regularly. The INDIANA Theater in Terra Haute always

 

reminds me of the Coleman in Miami and is a wonderful archetectural

 

structure. Great roads, great weekend!

 

 

 

Still Cruisin',

 

Bliss

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Guest Map Girl

They're replaying it twice this weekend on KQED (San Francisco). I'm planning

 

on taping...let me know if you want to borrow it.

 

 

 

pascha

 

oakland, ca

 

 

 

Denny Gibson <denny@dennygibson.com> wrote:

 

It was repeated in Cincy tonight and I only missed the first 15 minutes (I

 

missed the first half of the original broadcast). So this time I got to see

 

Wigwam Village #2 (with Brian, Sarah, & kids) and the World's Largest Catsup

 

Bottle (with The Big Tomato). An interesting & fun show and next time I'm

 

gonna see it all.

 

 

 

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From: Jennifer [mailto:jabremer66@aol.com]

 

Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 5:20 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Reminder Tonight: Unusual Buildings & Other

 

Roadside Stuff

 

 

 

 

 

> Drat. I was out of town and I missed it. Read the blurb about

 

the

 

> show, though. Now I'll have to find out more about that mortar and

 

> pestle shaped drug store in Lexington:)

 

>

 

> BabyBoomerBob

 

 

 

Bob,

 

 

 

You might still be able to see the show! Here in Indy, it's airing

 

again this Saturday night. Go to the PBS website to check the

 

schedule:

 

 

 

http://www.pbs.org/tvschedules/

 

 

 

Just enter your ZIP code to get the schedule for your local PBS

 

station.

 

 

 

Jennifer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Mike Ward

Did anyone happen to catch the two-hour show on the Pacific Coast Highway that

 

was on the History Channel a couple of days ago?

 

 

 

Mike

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Guest Denny Gibson

They have had a "hit the road" program on each night this week but that is

 

the only one I've seen. Great show. Monday was Texas and last night was Las

 

Vegas (I think). Tonight is Alaska which I intend to watch. Looking forward

 

to watching them build the Alcan Highway.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 7:01 PM

 

To: American Road

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] PCH on History Channel

 

 

 

 

 

Did anyone happen to catch the two-hour show on the Pacific Coast Highway

 

that was on the History Channel a couple of days ago?

 

 

 

Mike

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Russell S. Rein

Subject: Lincoln Highway Updates

 

 

 

Hey Folks,

 

 

 

Here's some more Lincoln Highway Updates:

 

 

 

The Chambersburg Heritage Center opens on

 

Friday:

 

http://xrl.us/cet8

 

 

 

The Lincoln Highway Heritage Corridor in PA's

 

gas pump display program hit's a snag:

 

http://xrl.us/cet9

 

 

 

but....The Lincoln Highway Heritage Corridor

 

will be getting three new LH murals:

 

http://xrl.us/ceua

 

 

 

The "Irwin Project":

 

http://xrl.us/ceuh

 

 

 

Ogden, IA LH building will be razed due to roof

 

collapse:

 

http://xrl.us/ceub

 

 

 

Missouri Valley's Dairy Den turns 50 (great pic):

 

http://xrl.us/ceuf

 

 

 

That's it for today.

 

 

 

ypsi-slim

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Guest Angela Culbreth

Hi

 

My children,Mother & I will be leaving Central Texas and going to Montreal

 

Canada. We are looking forward to this adventure. We have decided to go through

 

Ark, Ten,W.VA,Pen NY & Vermont. I have not traveled like this since I was a

 

child. Cant wait!

 

Angela

 

 

 

Jennifer <jabremer66@aol.com> wrote:

 

Thanks so much for joining and we hope you all enjoy American Road

 

Magazine's Yahoo Group!

 

 

 

To avoid spammers (which we'd had early on), Pat and I now approve

 

all members personally by requiring a short note about why someone

 

would like to join our group. As you all now know, you have been

 

approved on that basis, but we briefly keep new members on moderated

 

status. We certainly don't wish to do that forever; so, our only

 

requirement for removal of moderated status is just one legitimate

 

post about road travel, a trip or whatever you have to share related

 

to road trips/travel, etc. After we approve that post, we change

 

your status to unmoderated.

 

 

 

We think that's reasonable for all members (we haven't had a new

 

member complain yet!) and it does keep spammers at bay, since no one

 

has posted a real post then subsequently spammed us.

 

 

 

With that in mind, I just want to make note that Pat and I will be

 

away this weekend (as indicated in my earlier posts!!), so there

 

will be a brief interruption in member / message approvals until we

 

get back. As soon as we can, we will approve any new members as

 

well as posts made during our absence.

 

 

 

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Where are you getting on 61? Let me know and I will attempt to provide some

 

inspiration....Tsingtao, KipWelborn

 

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Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 11:40 AM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Oklahoma book

 

 

 

 

 

> Our next trip will be 61 to spend a little time in New

 

> Orleans. "Oklahoma, but you said New Orleans" kinda thing. I think I

 

> scarred her. She's not a big flyer so a road trip is the prefered

 

> mode of transportation. But I'm the big journey not the dsestination

 

> guy and shes all about the destination.

 

>

 

> Any ideas on old maps more detailed than old gas station maps?

 

>

 

> Allen

 

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In a message dated 7/1/05 9:12:57 PM Central Daylight Time,

 

jabremer66@aol.com writes:

 

 

 

 

 

> Route 66 in Illinois is very well-marked. You should have no

 

> trouble there, even through cities. Springfield has several

 

> alignments and all are well marked with the date of the alignment

 

> (ie, 1926 - 1930).

 

>

 

> Also available is a great book by John Weiss called "Traveling the

 

> New, Historic Route 66 in Illinois" which provides excellent details.

 

 

 

 

 

John's Book is the definitive 'bible' to travel Rt 66. He also suggests

 

points of interest that are near RT 66 but not necessarily on the highway

 

itself.

 

To contact him, moxie66sbcglobal.net

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

 

> I enjoy Illinois 66 very much. Some of my favorites south of

 

> Bloomington / Normal include:

 

>

 

> - Funk's Grove Maple Sirup

 

> - Atlanta - "Muffler Man" holding a giant hot dog, formerly of

 

> Bunyan's Hot Dogs in Cicero; also some fantastic murals of old

 

> signage and a very neat public library building

 

> - Broadwell - Ernie Edwards' Pig Hip Museum

 

> -south of Lincoln - if you are adventurous, there is a "Ghost

 

> Bridge" over Salt Creek. For the die hard road geeks, very cool.

 

> - Williamsville - there is a "dream car" museum there, but it's

 

> mainly open during the week, and early on Saturday. I have never had

 

> a chance to get there when they are open, but it looks very cool.

 

> When you are on 66 heading south, just before you need to turn right

 

> onto I-55 (for a brief stretch here you must get on the evil-I as I

 

> call the Interstate), follow what is marked as a spur of 66, and the

 

> Dream Car Museum is on the right, between this alignment of 66 and

 

> the Interstate.

 

> - Springfield - choice of alignments here as well. Bill Shea's

 

> Museum, of course, Cozy Dogs!, Lincoln Historic sites. In

 

> September, there is a big 66 Festival downtown

 

> - South of Springfield, you have a choice of 2 alignments, the old

 

> IL 4 alignment and the newer alignment, which parallels I-55. Both

 

> have their appeal and unique things to see and do -here's a small

 

> sample of my favorites:

 

>

 

> Near Raymond - Our Lady of the Highways shrine

 

> Litchfield - Ariston Cafe; Litchfield also is holding a great

 

> classic car fest each year in June right on Route 66 pavement. It

 

> was last week and was alot of fun! I took a ton of photos, but have

 

> not had a chance to post them yet.

 

> Auburn - old alignment, brick paved

 

> Hamel - Meramec Caverns Barn newly restored

 

>

 

> That's just the tip of the iceberg for what there is on 66 in

 

> Illinois, and that's only south of Bloomington! LOL

 

 

 

 

 

Jennifer you do me proud,

 

hugs,

 

Lulu

 

 

 

>

 

> Jennifer

 

> http://www.roadtripmemories.com

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

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