Guest roadmaven@aol.com Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 Hi folks....First let me preface this note by saying it's not for everyone. You may find it interesting if you're into old road alignments & such. Recently I was doing some research on my city/county's website to find some info on zoning and property line info for a garage I'll hopefully have in my backyard in the next couple of years. They have this very cool "General Data Viewer" that shows various politcal maps, zoning maps, transportation maps, and aerial photography. The aerial photos are amazing. There are various sets of photos (covering the entire county, ie, Indianapolis) that range in dates from 1937 through 2003. I checked out the 2003 photos tonight (recently added to their photo lineup) and the detail is incredible. I zoomed in on my house and it must've been taken on a Friday since I can see my trash cans sitting at the curb! I've found this site extremely valuable in doing research on old highway alignments through Indianapolis, mainly some sections of US 40/National Road on the west side of town. I've also had a couple of old postcards of an "Emerichsville Bridge", which crossed the White River somewhere in Indianapolis in the early 20th century. Unfortunately the postcards never showed exactly where it was. But thanks to research on the map series from 1937 & 1956, I located where the bridge crossed, which was about 5 minutes east of me. So you folks who live in a major metro area might want to check your own city/county's websites to see if they offer a similar feature. It's not only good for identifying old alignments, but it also identifies where an old motel, diner, etc. once stood. Here's a link to the site: http://arcimsnt1.indygov.org/prod/GeneralViewer/viewer.htm It's a little tricky to use at first, but the key is to use the two drop-downs on the left side of the screen. That and the zoom feature are your best friends! Regards, Pat B. Speedway, IN http://roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ken Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 Greetings All! I have an important notice of preservation value to Route 66. Here is an important message forwarded: If you have a website and would like to help promote the "Ribbon in Time" CD, here is the link and intro: Title: Ribbon in Time Description: The long-neglected 11th Street Bridge that crosses the Arkansas River is finally seeing a rebirth as a pedistrian walkway and showcase of history. One of the first projects is to replace the brass plaques that were on each end of the bridge. The new plaques will help introduce the new name of the bridge, "Cyrus Avery Route 66 Memorial Bridge". A new music CD titled "A Ribbon In Time" - a Collector's Edition of eleven new Route 66 songs written and sung by Buenger Dickson is now on sale. 100% of the sales proceeds from this LIMITED EDITION CD will be used to purchase the bronze memorial plaques. URL: URL: http://www.mistyowl.com/route66/RibbonTime.htm If you click on the Vendors button, it will take you to a list of the Vendors that are currently selling the CD. If you are selling it and do not see your name/business listed, please let me know so I can get it added. Let's see if we can get these first copies sold out quickly. Remember, once the plaques are bought, then that will be money for even more projects. Let's see if we can get into at least the second production of this CD before the Festival. (Just a note to collectors...you really want to be sure and get this first copy..!!!!!) If you don't live have a business, is there any in your area that can help promote the CD? Any place that sellls CD, traveling supplies, art galleries, etc, etc. Know someone planning a trip. Just think how much they would appreciate a basket filled with a couple of good Route 66 books, maps, "a great sing-along CD", Valentine coming up...How about a basket with a bottle of one of the Route 66 wines and a CD. Need a house warming gift?....Who wouldn't want a sing- along CD to listen to while arranging that new home. Okay, getting the idea here????????? For that matter, if you are trying to get a city aware that they have a valuable assess in the Road Icons, how about a basket of Route 66 goodies to show them how other town/cities promote the Mother Road to give them an idea of what they are missing out on. dona www.mistyowl.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roustabout Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Burr" <hester_nec@yahoo.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:56 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] U S 51 - Memphis-Millington > I've been tracing the old alignment between Memphis and Millington - > unfortunately not much of it remains. > I've taken a look at the Delorme Atlas CD, and it seems US 51 has been *extensively* realligned throughout its course in Tennessee. At least, in the northern part of the state, the old alignment has been preserved as various state routes. > > > The current alignment in downtown Memphis, is a bit hard to > understand if one is reading maps. It suddenly disappears and > re-appears a few blocks east as Elvis Presley Blvd. We'll try to > figure out the routing. As for N. 2nd Street - as U S 51 it could > well have turned east on what is now E. H. Crump Blvd and run to the > current alignment, Elvis Presley Blvd. Todays Danny Thomas alignment > could also run this way, but I think it may run down Linden. Will > drive it sometime in the next few days and try to figure it out. > I lived in Memphis for about three years back in the early 70's. I wish I could be *certain* about the alignment through downtown, but it is likely it followed 64 and 72 down Union Ave. to Bellevue where it turned right and then straight onto Elvis Presley. As for Linden, US 78 used to follow it downtown. It came into town on Lamar Ave., then turned right on Somerville, swinging left around a curve to follow Linden. This curve left a little triangular park between it and the corner of Linden and Somerville. The park didn't have a name, but because of the winos who used to hang out there, it was known locally as "Derelict Park". (I lived about a block north off Somerville.) > Memphis appears to be the cross-roads of the South. I've counted no > less than seven U S highways - 51, 61, 64, 70, 72, 78 and 79, plus > several state highways - running thru the city. I'm sure there are > other cities with more, but there can't be many. > US 63 may have at one time also been routed into Memphis to terminate just beyond the end of the bridge. My first time in Memphis was in 1955. I had just finished the first grade and mom took my brother and me to visit out aunt and uncle in Corinth, MS. They, in turn, took us to Memphis, and made sure we crossed over the fairly new Memphis-Arkansas bridge for our first view of Old Man River. I remember it quite well! During the 70's, I found out a little bit about the bridge it replaced--the Harihan Bridge. This bridge is still around and is used for railroad traffic. But at one time, it was also the only auto bridge across the Mississippi at Memphis. The roadbed ran on either side of the truss. Must have been a nerve wracking experience driving across while a train was coming through:) > I will post the pictures I've taken of this section, plus the ones > in the city, when I get back to New England the end of this month. > > Happy traveling one and all. > > Hudsonly, > Alex B > > Thanks for bringing up some old memories! Have a safe trip home, BabyBoomerBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 I've managed to find a 1973 vintage snaphot of the Harihan Bridge, the only auto bridge crossing the Mississippi at Memphis before the early '50s and placed it in my photo file <BabyBoomerBob>. I was standing in the eastbound lane on the Tennessee side. The metal framework for the roadbed is clearly visible, even though the actual roadbed was taken up years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Wow that's cool! Naturally the race fan in me, I zoomed right into the pagoda at the speedway. I like how they are able to overlay street graphics too. . . Here's one I use. Recently traced a former trolley route near my home. Any rail nuts in the group? Looking for info on the Princeton Traction Company of Trenton, NJ area. . . http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/default.aspx Anywho, this is great fun. You can't see garbage cans on the curb, but I can spot the umbrella open on the picnic table! ....Chris Just Think! http://www.geocities.com/stoneynb/ --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, roadmaven@a... wrote: > Hi folks....First let me preface this note by saying it's not for everyone. > You may find it interesting if you're into old road alignments & such. > > Recently I was doing some research on my city/county's website to find some > info on zoning and property line info for a garage I'll hopefully have in my > backyard in the next couple of years. They have this very cool "General Data > Viewer" that shows various politcal maps, zoning maps, transportation maps, and > aerial photography. The aerial photos are amazing. There are various sets of > photos (covering the entire county, ie, Indianapolis) that range in dates from > 1937 through 2003. I checked out the 2003 photos tonight (recently added to > their photo lineup) and the detail is incredible. I zoomed in on my house and it > must've been taken on a Friday since I can see my trash cans sitting at the > curb! > > I've found this site extremely valuable in doing research on old highway > alignments through Indianapolis, mainly some sections of US 40/National Road on > the west side of town. I've also had a couple of old postcards of an > "Emerichsville Bridge", which crossed the White River somewhere in Indianapolis in the > early 20th century. Unfortunately the postcards never showed exactly where it > was. But thanks to research on the map series from 1937 & 1956, I located where > the bridge crossed, which was about 5 minutes east of me. > > So you folks who live in a major metro area might want to check your own > city/county's websites to see if they offer a similar feature. It's not only good > for identifying old alignments, but it also identifies where an old motel, > diner, etc. once stood. > > Here's a link to the site: > http://arcimsnt1.indygov.org/prod/GeneralViewer/viewer.htm > > It's a little tricky to use at first, but the key is to use the two > drop-downs on the left side of the screen. That and the zoom feature are your best > friends! > > Regards, > > Pat B. > Speedway, IN > http://roadtripmemories.com > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Pat I just added a few more "PA Tpk" links to the group page. . . http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/links I recall visiting a couple of these web sites in the past, but Sherlock just found a bunch more for me. . . Wow! ....Chris --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "roadmaven" <roadmaven@a...> wrote: > Brian, > Please keep us posted this year when it airs. Also, I really > enjoyed the pictures on your website of the abandoned Pennsylvania > Turnpike section. For us not from the area, how long of a section is > this? How long has it been bypassed? Any other details are welcome > for those of us abandoned roadbed geeks! > > Pat Bremer, AR List Maven > Speedway, IN > http://roadtripmemories > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Butko, Brian A." > <babutko@h...> wrote: > > The video is A PROGRAM ABOUT UNUSUAL BUILDINGS AND OTHER ROADSIDE > STUFF by > > Rick Sebak, PBS producer of shows such as Amusement Parks, Ice > Cream, Flea > > Markets, Shore Things, etc. If all goes according to plan, it will > air on > > PBS in Summer 2004. > > > > We were interviewed at the wigwams talking about "Roadside Giants," > the > > first book my wife Sarah and I have written together. It's a > > glove-compartment guide to larger-than-life attractions such as > coffee pot > > cafes, muffler men, etc. There are lots of great web sites and a > couple big > > books but we wanted something to inspire people (and kids) to hit > the road > > and actually visit them. It will be out Fall 2005 so we have a few > months to > > add and update in case anyone has a favorite they'd like to tell us > and this > > group about. > > > > Brian > > http://www.brianbutko.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Wm. Ridge Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 If you like the aerial photos with great detail -- together with topo maps -- try http://terraserver.microsoft.com/ for just about anywhere in the USA. We can't see our garbage can but just about everything else. J Ridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 I was sitting here contemplating the snow and ice coming down this morning here on the coast of New England and it came to mind that summer will soon be here (as we say down here in Maine - 4th of July is right around the corner). I know some of you are going to be taking road trips and perhaps I can help. In rooting around my many boxes of 'stuff' I came across a copy of a 1932 ALA Automobile Green Book. Yesterday I bought a 1933 copy, I have a 1921 copy that I purchased from ebay on it's way. So I got to thinking - as long as you don't go absolutely crazy in your requests I think I can give you interesting routes to follow - see below for Chattanooga to Nashville. These green books that I have cover the eastern United States - however, somewhere around here I have a 1941 Western States AAA book, so I can cover that area as well (once I remember where I put it). A sample routing from the 1933 ALA book: CHATTANOOGA, TENN. TO NASHVILLE - 144.0 Miles. Via Dixie Highway, Macadam, concrete and gravel. 0.0 CHATTANOOGA.* U.S.HWY 41 Market and Eleventh Sts. North on Market St. 1.2 L on Cherokee Pike. 2.2 Str. through tunnel. 3.1 Valdeau.Bear L(Str. aheald for Dayton U.S. Hwy 27.) 5.1 Fork L on Suck Creek Rd. 4.8 Top of Signal Mt. 25.2 Victoria. Str. ahead. 28.9 Sequachie. Str. ahead. 32.7 Jasper. R 39.3 Retchell. Str. ahead. 55.9 Mont Eagle. Str. ahead. 62-9 PelhauL Str. ahead. 72.0 Hillsboro,. Str. ahead. 80.2 Four corners L 80.3 Manchester. Str. at Court House 94.4 Beech Grove. Str. ahead. 111.5 Bear R on Maney Ave. 112.0 L on E. College St. 112.2 Murfreesboro. Str. ahead. James K. Polk Hotel 128.1 La Vergne. Fork R 135.1 Una. Str, ahead, 142.5 Fork R on Second Ave. 143.0 L on Peabody St. 143.1 R on Fourth Ave. South. 143.5 L on Broad St. 143.6 R on Fifth Ave, South. 143.9 L on Union St, 144.0 NASHVILLE* Union St. and Capitol Blvd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roustabout Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Burr" <hester_nec@yahoo.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 8:54 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Summer 2004 road trips >> A sample routing from the 1933 ALA book: > > CHATTANOOGA, TENN. TO NASHVILLE - 144.0 Miles. > Via Dixie Highway, > > Macadam, concrete and gravel. > 0.0 CHATTANOOGA.* U.S.HWY 41 > Market and Eleventh Sts. North > on Market St. > 1.2 L on Cherokee Pike. > 2.2 Str. through tunnel. > 3.1 Valdeau.Bear L(Str. aheald > for Dayton U.S. Hwy 27.) > 5.1 Fork L on Suck Creek Rd. > 4.8 Top of Signal Mt. > 25.2 Victoria. Str. ahead. > 28.9 Sequachie. Str. ahead. > 32.7 Jasper. R > 39.3 Retchell. Str. ahead. > 55.9 Mont Eagle. Str. ahead. > 62-9 PelhauL Str. ahead. > 72.0 Hillsboro,. Str. ahead. > 80.2 Four corners L > 80.3 Manchester. Str. at Court House > 94.4 Beech Grove. Str. ahead. > 111.5 Bear R on Maney Ave. > 112.0 L on E. College St. > 112.2 Murfreesboro. Str. ahead. > James K. Polk Hotel > 128.1 La Vergne. Fork R > 135.1 Una. Str, ahead, > 142.5 Fork R on Second Ave. > 143.0 L on Peabody St. > 143.1 R on Fourth Ave. South. > 143.5 L on Broad St. > 143.6 R on Fifth Ave, South. > 143.9 L on Union St, > 144.0 NASHVILLE* Union St. and Capitol Blvd. > > Alex, I can't help but think you had me in mind when you posted this route:) I can add a few notes to this routing. Market Street used to be US 27. I don't recall seeing any route numbers the last time I was there, but the DeLorme disc indicates it's now TN 8. It crosses the John Ross Bridge, which I intend to write about some time this spring. The tunnel mentioned is the Stringer's Ridge tunnel, dating from 1909. The L in Valdeau in onto Signal Mountain Blvd. Beyond the new alignment of US 27, it is US 127. Suck Creek Road is TN 27. The creek got it's name from a rather nasty whirlpool that used to exist at its mouth. Hale's Bar Dam raised the water level enough to eliminate this navigation hazard. The route beyond Powell's Crossroads follows an older alignment of TN 27. Part of it is TN 283, but the majority (the part going through Victoria and Sequatchie) is no longer numbered. I couldn't find Retchell anywhere, so I'm assuming the route follows US 64 west of Jasper, then TN 2 in the direction of Monteagle. The original alignment of 64 up Monteagle Mountain is now the eastbound lane of I-24. 64 follows I-24 up the mountain. An alternate route would be the realigned US 41 through Whitwell. As for my plans for 2004, I've got a few little trips in mind and one good sized vacation. Perhaps the most interesting one is tentatively scheduled for Memorial Day weekend. Susan, Kevin and I plan to drive Zane's Trace, an old pioneer road running from Maysville, KY to Wheeling WV. Happy trails, BabyBoomerBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drivewdave@aol.com Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 In a message dated 2/7/04 9:41:10 PM, theoakman@theriver.com writes: << Bill There are two theories to arguing with women. Neither one works. >> Dave here, as long as we are going on a detour off topic let me take the wheel for a stretch... Tom Robbins made an observation in his novel Still Life With Woodpecker: There are two kinds of people in the world, those who think there are two kinds of people and those who are smarter and know better. Tom Robbins' first novel, Another Roadside Attraction, is largely set in an abandoned hotdog stand. Tom told me he based it on an actual place that had a gigantic hotdog sign on the roof, this was on I-5/old 99 near Conway south of Mt. Vernon WA. The place was gone by the time I went by there in 1969. When I asked him about it he told me that it was real but he moved it across the road in the book, he said as a writer you get to 'play God.' It's not the same kind of roadside joint like Steinbeck wrote about in The Grapes of Wrath, the chapter with the two truckers and the Okies, the fry cook at his grilll and his wife at the counter. It was excerpted as a short story titled Truckers it ran in the Readers Digest in the 1950s. The chapter opens and closes with the image of constant traffic on US 66. American Road magazine Vol 1 No II mentions Steinbeck's pickup/camper Rocinante which was the vehicle of Travels With Charlie but now I am wondering if he made some trips on US 66 to gather material for The Grapes of Wrath, it seems highly likely. It would be interesing to know a bit more about this, what vehicle he used and when and where etc. A guess off the top of my head would be that he drove a Ford or a Chevy but who knows. The posts about the Bonnie and Clyde bridge remind me of how bankrobber and public evemy number one John Dilinger wrote a letter to Henry Ford telling him that the V-8 Ford was his preferred getaway car to steal since it could usually outrun the police. The story goes that Henry was secretly proud of this and took it as the highest compliment. Not sure what to make of the remark at the top of this about the two theories to arguing with women, I realize it is meant to be funny but I somehow don't quite get it, it must be too obvious for me. Also there might be be a tinge of disparragement that is similar to the tired out and unjustified remarks about women drivers. Poor driving knows no gender or age group, it's universal along with other forms of ignorance such as using cliches for thinking. (whatever...) As I said to someone the other night, why think when you can talk... one more story, the other day I took the bus from Seattle to Tacoma and near Fife there was the usual evening slowdown. It was fun watching the traffic in the left lane (of four) and few people were holding the wheel in the classic 'ten to two' position favored by the pros, most were using one hand or both hands at twelve, some were on the phone and the driver of a black VW neo-beetle was reading a paperback book but put it down once traffic resumed speed. so what was the age and gender of the reader/driver? I will leave that for you to assume, it might tell you something about yourself. Okay here's the positive spin on the two theories to arguing with women neither of which work, this suggests that women are strong and will prevail. The chauvinist cliche is women are illogical and stubborn, I don't buy it. Did anybody else catch the three highway shows on TV last Wednesday on The History Channel? They were episodes in the Modern Marvels series, an hour each on the Autobahn, the Pacific Coast Highway (whatever that is) and finally the Overseas highway to Key West. For some strange reason thelast two were interrupted by a creepy hour on the infamous Manson family. The highway shows had a fair amount of historical footage and dealt primarily with the engineering aspects. The Autobahn show is a couple years old but the other two seemed to be new so it is likely they will run again. The Autobahn show also had a segment on Montana which used to have a 'reasonable and proper' speed limit. If anybody has some stories about high speed driving such as in Nevada or Montana, please share. I once hitched a ride in a cab-over Freightliner across eastern Montana and the driver was doing eighty right down the middle of the two lane roads for hours. The driver was an independent owner/operator and he said his tires cost him twentyfive cents per mile, this was in 1971. happy trails, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mike shadman Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Bob, I just join this group. What route went over the bridge, if any? Can you give me more details? George Bob Worley <bwcobra15@yahoo.com> wrote: From today's Dallas Morning News: History buffs look to save bridge that almost doomed Bonnie and Clyde 08:08 PM CST on Thursday, February 5, 2004 By BRIAN ANDERSON / Dallas Web Staff It’s the Texas bridge that almost did what dozens of lawmen couldn’t – end the crime spree of Bonnie and Clyde. Now, the historic truss bridge spanning the Salt Fork of the Red River is on the Texas Department of Transportation’s most-wanted list. “That bridge means a lot to the people of Collingsworth County,” said Darwin Lankford, a bridge engineer with the transportation department’s Childress office. “It means a lot to us, but it’s a liability to us, too.” State officials say the Panhandle bridge must undergo extensive – and expensive – repairs or it faces demolition. However, residents are forming their own posse to chase down the dollars needed to save the historic span. Read the entire article here: http://tinyurl.com/389fh . --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mike shadman Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Is anybody taking any road trips on US Highways this year? If so, I would like to know! (NEW TO THE GROUP) George Kemberling a fervent supporter and a advit student for the US Route Numbered Highway System --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CAR Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Hi Bob, Looking in some notes I had in my files, I had this route from Maysville to Wheeling - wondering if this route corresponds with yours. I have: From Maysville,KY - cross river to Aberdeen,OH - SR 41 to Aberdeen, US 50 to Bainbridge, SR 159 to Chillicothe, US 22 to Lancaster, US 40 to Zanesville, continue on 40 to Wheeling. Cheers, Carol Ruth roustabout wrote: > > > > As for my plans for 2004, I've got a few little trips in mind and one > good sized vacation. Perhaps the most interesting one is tentatively > scheduled for Memorial Day weekend. Susan, Kevin and I plan to drive > Zane's Trace, an old pioneer road running from Maysville, KY to > Wheeling WV. > > Happy trails, > > BabyBoomerBob > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest William Cashman Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 ----- Original Message ----- From: mike shadman Is anybody taking any road trips on US Highways this year? If so, I would like to know! (NEW TO THE GROUP) George Kemberling a fervent supporter and a advit student for the US Route Numbered Highway System I'm also new to the group.....I've been lurking for a week or two. My wife and I are back-road enthusiasts who travel in a pickup truck and 5th wheel trailer. We are semi-retired and manage to get in two or three 5 to 6 week road trips each year as well as several other shorter trips in the local area (we live in a small national park on the Mexican border in SE Arizona). Our interests include (besides the obvious RVing and camping) historical sites, mountain biking, hiking, and digital photography. My "someday project" is to publish a photographic journal (at least one copy) of all the "world's largest....." sites to be found in this great country of ours. Any other RVers in this group??? Cya l8r, Bill There are two theories to arguing with women. Neither one works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 You might want to check out our web site and click on the 66 Caravan icon. Thanks James M. Conkle CEO Route 66 Preservation Foundation P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760 617 3991 cell 760 868 3320 760 868 8614 fax jim@cart66pf.org www.cart66pf.org -----Original Message----- From: William Cashman [mailto:theoakman@theriver.com] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 1:36 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Road Trips 2004 ----- Original Message ----- From: mike shadman Is anybody taking any road trips on US Highways this year? If so, I would like to know! (NEW TO THE GROUP) George Kemberling a fervent supporter and a advit student for the US Route Numbered Highway System I'm also new to the group.....I've been lurking for a week or two. My wife and I are back-road enthusiasts who travel in a pickup truck and 5th wheel trailer. We are semi-retired and manage to get in two or three 5 to 6 week road trips each year as well as several other shorter trips in the local area (we live in a small national park on the Mexican border in SE Arizona). Our interests include (besides the obvious RVing and camping) historical sites, mountain biking, hiking, and digital photography. My "someday project" is to publish a photographic journal (at least one copy) of all the "world's largest....." sites to be found in this great country of ours. Any other RVers in this group??? Cya l8r, Bill There are two theories to arguing with women. Neither one works. Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brownwho63 Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Man, oh man....What a great day trip we took today! Cruised the new Monte Carlo up IL 100 from Alton, IL to Grafton and points north to check out the eagles "fishing" on the river. Saw many, many of them and we were just in awe of their grace and beauty. Turned east onto IL 16 and cruised into Jerseyville, then turned west onto IL 109 back into Grafton. Stopped at Sengers' bar on the downtown strip and shot the breeze with a couple of other roadies from St. Charles. They're Harley people but also have a '68 454 Impala and a '37 Chevy with a small block. He (didn't exchange names) rebuilds the cars himself. Turns out we have visited several of the same saloons in Missouri (she bills him as knowing every bar in Missouri) but we were able to tell them about Shady Jack's in Villa Ridge and the Elbow Inn in Devils Elbow. Thoroughly enjoyed shooting the breeze with true roadies. We stopped at the Chain of Rocks Bridge on the return trip and walked out to the new scenic overlook. That's a very scary place, by the way, and one that I don't really care to walk on. It's a VERY long way to the water. Saw one lone eagle coasting around before we had to give it up in favor of the warm car.....Bliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theoakman85615 Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jim" <jim@c...> wrote: > You might want to check out our web site and click on the 66 Caravan icon. > Great web site, Jim!! I've already shared it with friends in Los Angeles that started to bicycle the route a couple of years ago (strong headwinds finally got the best of them and they had to give up the ride at that time). I've driven the entire route a couple of times back in the day....mid fifties. Born and raised in Chicago and had friends in Tucson and Los Angeles that we drove out to visit. Cya l8r, Bill There are two theories to arguing with women. Neither one works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Hello again friend, Thanks for the kind words on our web site but they go to Guy Randall our web master. Did you say bicycle as in BIKE? Well this is good timing as I am assisting the Chief of the Moscow Police Academy and a few of his friends ride from NYC to Chicago to LA. They are planning on taking 6 to 8 weeks for the entire trip. Would you pass this on to your bicycle friends? We need some assistance and support. By the way Dmitry is doing research and is going to write a book on the Bunion Run of 1928. This is the first time I have mentioned it to anyone. What area do you live in and do you plan on traveling the road any time soon? Being that you are now a roadie we have to teach you the secret handshake. HA! HA! Which by the way is a hug. James M. Conkle CEO Route 66 Preservation Foundation P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760 617 3991 cell 760 868 3320 760 868 8614 fax jim@cart66pf.org www.cart66pf.org -----Original Message----- From: theoakman85615 [mailto:theoakman@theriver.com] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 2:58 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Road Trips 2004 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jim" <jim@c...> wrote: > You might want to check out our web site and click on the 66 Caravan icon. > Great web site, Jim!! I've already shared it with friends in Los Angeles that started to bicycle the route a couple of years ago (strong headwinds finally got the best of them and they had to give up the ride at that time). I've driven the entire route a couple of times back in the day....mid fifties. Born and raised in Chicago and had friends in Tucson and Los Angeles that we drove out to visit. Cya l8r, Bill There are two theories to arguing with women. Neither one works. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/bgxwlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/ AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Bob Reynolds Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, CAR <2lanetravlr20@v...> wrote: > Hi Bob, > Looking in some notes I had in my files, I had this route from > Maysville to Wheeling - wondering if this route corresponds with yours. > I have: > From Maysville,KY - cross river to Aberdeen,OH - SR 41 to Aberdeen, US > 50 to Bainbridge, SR 159 to Chillicothe, US 22 to Lancaster, US 40 > to Zanesville, continue on 40 to Wheeling. > > Cheers, Carol Ruth > > That's the one! Except for one short stretch between New Concord and Zanesville where the National Road didn't follow Zane's Trace. This stretch is drivable, except for requiring a detour around the Zanesville Airport. A little research on the DeLorme atlas CD located the stretch quite readily. Happy Trails, BabyBoomerBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drivewdave@aol.com Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Three college friends of mine rode bicycles from Washingto to New York City. They wound up riding to Key West from Miami and the Overseas Highway was by far the scariest and most dangerous part of the trip. due to the constant high speed traffic and no shoulders. There were lots of dump trucks too, maybe from highway construction I am guessing. They got from NYC to Miami via a drive-away car, the Pulaski Skyway entering New Jersey from the Holland Tunnel made an impression, enough to tell about it when they got back. They stayed in Miami a few months to earn money and get off the road so they got jobs in a KMart stockroom. They were impressed with the amount of mouthwash that moved through there. One of the duties was after the closed go get a BB gun from the sporting goods section and try to pick off the canaries that escaped from the pet section and had the run of the store fouling the merchandise. They finally came back by Greyhound, all in all quite a road trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest R.V. Droz Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 I cringe each time I watch the Overseas Highway one, for reasons that should be obvious. -- ___________________________________________________________ Happy Motoring! _._._._.____~__ Robert V. Droz ( us98@earthlink.net ) [____________][___ U.S. Highways : From US 1 to (US 830) [________/____[_|__ http://www.us-highways.com/ ()() ()() () Route Logs - Standard Oil - Highway Makeover - Pics - Maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dona Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 ( Sorry, this is the best I can come up with at the present.) UniRoyal was U,S. Rubber company before changing the name. http://www.scripophily.net/fisrubcom19.html US Tire was a subsidiary of US Rubber Company "The two lowest floors originally provided retail space for the company's subsidiary, the United States Tire Company, while U.S. Rubber occupied eight of the office stories. " http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=115772 1916 Newspaper ad http://www.paperpit.com/inventorydetail.asp?number=y9046 A 1911 ad telling about their new Service Bureau at 1707 Broadway, NY http://shop.vendio.com/baylor45/item/602510904/index.html http://www.fulco.lib.in.us/Tombaugh/Fulton.../Handbook%20Roc hester.htm GIVES LOCAL HISTORY Workmen were busy Wednesday putting up a sign for the United States Tire Company on the cement road about a mile and a half east of Rochester. The sign is about 30 by 50 and looks like an open page of American history book. On one side is an advertisement of United States Tires and on the other side it says< "Rochester was once the hunting grounds of the Pottawattomie Indians. A bold and warlike tribe who for many years entertained a hostile attitude toward the white pioneers of Indiana." A similar sign on the Michigan road between here and Logansport says that, "Rochester was named after Nathaniel Rochester, a commissary general in the United States Army in the Revolutionary War." [Rochester Sentinel, Friday, July 23, 1920] dona www.mistyowl.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Group Question Greetings All! While exploring an old abandoned Katy Railroad line the other day, and I came across a vintage porcelain steel sign mostly buried under the dirt. After unearthing the heavy beast I discovered it was a 4 foot "United States Tire Company" sign. I've searched the internet hopelessly for info on that company. Cannot find a single bit of history except two folks selling a magazine ad for that company from magazines dating in 1914 and 1917. (At least the company was a fairly old one!) That company also used the name "U.S. Tire Co.". Does anyone here know what years this tire company existed? Let me know. Thanks! God Bless and Happy Trails. the landrunner Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.611 / Virus Database: 391 - Release Date: 3/3/2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Tidbits: * US Tire was a subsidiary of US Rubber (http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/lpc/html/desi...maries/u_s_rubb er.html) * US Rubber became UniRoyal in 1967. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, big_ugly_mich@y... wrote: > If I'm not mistaken, and I could be, that's the original name for > Uniroyal tires. > > I'm basing that on the commercial where the hand came out of the tire > and grabbed hold of the road surface. > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <thelandrunner@y...> > wrote: > > Greetings All! > > > > While exploring an old abandoned Katy Railroad line the other day, > > and I came across a vintage porcelain steel sign mostly buried > under > > the dirt. After unearthing the heavy beast I discovered it was a 4 > > foot "United States Tire Company" sign. I've searched the internet > > hopelessly for info on that company. Cannot find a single bit of > > history except two folks selling a magazine ad for that company > from > > magazines dating in 1914 and 1917. (At least the company was a > fairly > > old one!) That company also used the name "U.S. Tire Co.". Does > > anyone here know what years this tire company existed? Let me know. > > Thanks! > > > > God Bless and Happy Trails. > > > > the landrunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 I have absolutely no idea how I did what I did...I am amazed I havent pushed a button on this box of microchips and blown up something...Tsingtao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Burr" <hester_nec@yahoo.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] ROAD TRIP! > Interesting Kip - I note the date on your email as 6 > April - isn't that tomorrow??? How'd you do that??? > > That said, I checked the TV listings for both Monday > and Tuesday nites and "Road Trip" is not listed, at > least in this area of New England. What is listed, is > John Rastenberers "Made In America" - which is a very > good program. > > Have a good one y'all. > > Hudsonly, > Alex B > > --- Rudyard Welborn <r.Welborn@worldnet.ATT.net> > wrote: > > There is a show on the Travel Channel called "Road > > Trip" at 9:00 p.m....I think it is a continuing > > thing...tonight it is from Orlando to Key West--got > > no more details than that...Tsingtao, Kip > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway > http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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