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Unkle Conkle,

 

 

 

I am now living in your neighborhood. I've moved to Beverly Hills and working as

 

an Executive Creative Director for a 3D production studio....we should do lunch

 

in Santa Monica sometime after the holidays....

 

 

 

Chet

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Guest John Murphey

Hi Becky,

 

 

 

Thanks for sending Andrew Montgomery's "On the Road."

 

I look forward to reading it this winter break.

 

 

 

In the e-mail below you asked for input on what

 

readers would like to see in "American Road."

 

 

 

Working at the New Mexico State Historic Preservation

 

Office with groups like the NPS Route 66 Corridor

 

Preservation Program and corresponding with other old

 

highways organizations, I am struck by how rapidly our

 

roadside architectural legacy is being demolished and

 

lost.

 

 

 

Just here in New Mexico,dozens of classic Route 66 gas

 

stations, trading posts, motels, and neon signs have

 

been demolished and/or irrevocably changed in the last

 

few years.

 

 

 

The problem is typically educational - the local

 

landowner does not have an appreciation and/or see the

 

value in preserving the resource. And, the passing

 

roadie or concerned local citizen does not know there

 

are local, state and national preservation programs

 

that can assist with historical designation, grants,

 

loans and tax credit incentives to preserve the

 

endangered resource.

 

 

 

What I am asking of "American Road" is to consider

 

preparing a brief historic roads preservation primer ,

 

educating the reader on some of the basic tools for

 

preserving highways and roadside resources.

 

 

 

I know you are not an advocacy group, but we are fast

 

approaching a critical point where the balance of our

 

historic roadside environment will be gone.

 

 

 

Another related suggestion is to launch a column

 

similar to the National Trust's "Preservation"

 

magazine's "Transitions." Each issue the column

 

features around ten historic resources that have

 

either been "lost," "threatened," "saved," and/or

 

"restored."

 

 

 

I can see something similar to this being highly

 

educational to the roadie community by alerting folks

 

of endangered properties and providing knowledge on

 

how other communities or groups have saved or restored

 

their roadside landmarks.

 

 

 

Thanks for your consideration.

 

 

 

John W. Murphey

 

New Mexico State Historic Preservation Office

 

Drive the Old Spanish Trail!

 

www.drivetheost.com

 

 

 

ps. the last issue of "American Road" I received was

 

Vol . II No. 3

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Chris

Fracksville, PA . . .You're right there by Bellefonte. A tick more

 

than an hour from Harry'sburg. Hey if you roll into State College,

 

don't mistake the State Penn for Penn State! heh heh . . .

 

 

 

Grab a sandwich when you fuel up at Sheetz! . . . Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Burr"

 

<hester_nec@y...> wrote:

 

> Holiday Greetings.

 

>

 

> U S 11 ROAD TRIP CANCELLED DUE TO SNOW..

 

>

 

> However, that said - we did drop off I-81 in Buchanan, VA, and

 

> followed 11 south to the town, to get something to eat. That

 

took

 

> up about 2 miles of 11 - getting back to 81 took about 10 miles

 

> going south on 11 - what a great slalom race course!!! We've

 

talked

 

> about curvy roads - this qualifies in spades.

 

>

 

> Trip from Maine to Memphis took 22 hours over 3 days of

 

terrible

 

> weather. At one point, the first day, we messed up, missing 33

 

> south from E. Stroudsburg to Reading. So we went west on

 

I-80 to I-

 

> 81 and south. At one point traffic was reduced to 35 mph in

 

driving

 

> snow - at that point it was nearly 4PM so we decided to call it a

 

> day in Fracksville, PA, - about an hour north of Harrisburg.

 

Such

 

> is life.

 

>

 

> Perhaps we will be able to cover U S 11 thru Virginia on the

 

way

 

> back to New England the end of January - weather permitting.

 

>

 

> Y'all have a wonderful Christmas - maybe everybody will get

 

some

 

> of those old highway guide books in your stockings.

 

>

 

> Hudsonly,

 

> Alex B

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Guest roadmaven

Chris,

 

I see the padoga rising above the treeline every morning when I

 

leave for work...I live in the housing addition on the west side of

 

the speedway. We're the only court in that addition, so if you can

 

find Winton Ct. on the viewer, we're the 2nd driveway on the right as

 

you'd drive in the court. If you (or anyone on the list) makes it out

 

here to a race, let me know & I'll set you up a parking spot at the

 

house. I don't charge for parking, unlike the $20 per car others down

 

the street charge. It's just a 10 minute walk to the gate in Turn 4.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

Pat in Speedway

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <stoneynb@y...> wrote:

 

> Wow that's cool! Naturally the race fan in me, I zoomed right into

 

the pagoda

 

> at the speedway. I like how they are able to overlay street

 

graphics too. . .

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Guest Denny Gibson

I haven't attended a 500 since the IRL took over and I'm pretty sure

 

that one F1 race there was enough but... I do get to IRP once or

 

twice a year for SCCA races so maybe sometime I can buy you a beer at

 

the Union Jack & you can point me to some old chunks of US-40.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "roadmaven" <roadmaven@a...>

 

wrote:

 

> Chris,

 

> I see the padoga rising above the treeline every morning when I

 

> leave for work...I live in the housing addition on the west side of

 

> the speedway. We're the only court in that addition, so if you can

 

> find Winton Ct. on the viewer, we're the 2nd driveway on the right

 

as

 

> you'd drive in the court. If you (or anyone on the list) makes it

 

out

 

> here to a race, let me know & I'll set you up a parking spot at the

 

> house. I don't charge for parking, unlike the $20 per car others

 

down

 

> the street charge. It's just a 10 minute walk to the gate in Turn 4.

 

>

 

> Regards,

 

>

 

> Pat in Speedway

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <stoneynb@y...> wrote:

 

> > Wow that's cool! Naturally the race fan in me, I zoomed right

 

into

 

> the pagoda

 

> > at the speedway. I like how they are able to overlay street

 

> graphics too. . .

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Guest Frank Brusca

My favorite aerial tool is Earth Viewer. I've uploaded two samples of

 

what the tool's high resolution photos look like. They're in the photo

 

section of the Yahoo! Groups web site.

 

 

 

You can download the viewer and sign up for the service at

 

www.keyhole.com.

 

 

 

Frank Brusca

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Chris [mailto:stoneynb@yahoo.com]

 

Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:57 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Aerial Photography

 

 

 

Wow that's cool! Naturally the race fan in me, I zoomed right into the

 

pagoda

 

at the speedway. I like how they are able to overlay street graphics

 

too. . .

 

 

 

Here's one I use. Recently traced a former trolley route near my home.

 

Any

 

rail nuts in the group? Looking for info on the Princeton Traction

 

Company of

 

Trenton, NJ area. . .

 

http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/default.aspx

 

 

 

Anywho, this is great fun. You can't see garbage cans on the curb, but I

 

can

 

spot the umbrella open on the picnic table!

 

 

 

...Chris

 

 

 

Just Think!

 

http://www.geocities.com/stoneynb/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, roadmaven@a... wrote:

 

> Hi folks....First let me preface this note by saying it's not for

 

everyone.

 

> You may find it interesting if you're into old road alignments & such.

 

 

 

>

 

> Recently I was doing some research on my city/county's website to

 

find

 

some

 

> info on zoning and property line info for a garage I'll hopefully have

 

in my

 

> backyard in the next couple of years. They have this very cool

 

"General

 

Data

 

> Viewer" that shows various politcal maps, zoning maps, transportation

 

maps, and

 

> aerial photography. The aerial photos are amazing. There are various

 

sets

 

of

 

> photos (covering the entire county, ie, Indianapolis) that range in

 

dates from

 

> 1937 through 2003. I checked out the 2003 photos tonight (recently

 

added

 

to

 

> their photo lineup) and the detail is incredible. I zoomed in on my

 

house and

 

it

 

> must've been taken on a Friday since I can see my trash cans sitting

 

at the

 

> curb!

 

>

 

> I've found this site extremely valuable in doing research on old

 

highway

 

> alignments through Indianapolis, mainly some sections of US

 

40/National

 

Road on

 

> the west side of town. I've also had a couple of old postcards of an

 

> "Emerichsville Bridge", which crossed the White River somewhere in

 

Indianapolis in the

 

> early 20th century. Unfortunately the postcards never showed exactly

 

where it

 

> was. But thanks to research on the map series from 1937 & 1956, I

 

located

 

where

 

> the bridge crossed, which was about 5 minutes east of me.

 

>

 

> So you folks who live in a major metro area might want to check your

 

own

 

> city/county's websites to see if they offer a similar feature. It's

 

not only good

 

> for identifying old alignments, but it also identifies where an old

 

motel,

 

> diner, etc. once stood.

 

>

 

> Here's a link to the site:

 

> http://arcimsnt1.indygov.org/prod/GeneralViewer/viewer.htm

 

>

 

> It's a little tricky to use at first, but the key is to use the two

 

> drop-downs on the left side of the screen. That and the zoom feature

 

are

 

your best

 

> friends!

 

>

 

> Regards,

 

>

 

> Pat B.

 

> Speedway, IN

 

> http://roadtripmemories.com

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest brownwho63

Yeah, highway 79 to Clarksville will usually produce the largest

 

number of eagles for viewing. The locks at Clarksville attract them

 

by the dozens and they seem to delight in sitting in the trees on the

 

IL side between snacks. The Winfield area also has several (turn

 

right onto a county road just after crossing the steel truss bridge)

 

but we usually cruise to Grafton because, well, we just like to

 

cruise to Grafton and the eagles are a huge bonus....Bliss

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Rudyard Welborn"

 

<r.Welborn@w...> wrote:

 

> That sounds like a great trip...my Dad used to love driving up 79 to

 

> Clarksdale to see the Eagles up there--there were apparently a lot

 

of them!

 

> Also the Lock and Dam North of St. Charles by Winfield (which I

 

think you

 

> access from 79) usually has a bunch of Eagles, too...see ja next

 

> Saturday...Tsingtao, Kip

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: "brownwho63" <wefly66@e...>

 

> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 5:20 PM

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Eagles

 

>

 

>

 

> > Man, oh man....What a great day trip we took today! Cruised the

 

new

 

> > Monte Carlo up IL 100 from Alton, IL to Grafton and points north

 

to

 

> > check out the eagles "fishing" on the river. Saw many, many of

 

them

 

> > and we were just in awe of their grace and beauty. Turned east

 

onto

 

> > IL 16 and cruised into Jerseyville, then turned west onto IL 109

 

back

 

> > into Grafton. Stopped at Sengers' bar on the downtown strip and

 

shot

 

> > the breeze with a couple of other roadies from St. Charles.

 

They're

 

> > Harley people but also have a '68 454 Impala and a '37 Chevy with

 

a

 

> > small block. He (didn't exchange names) rebuilds the cars

 

himself.

 

> > Turns out we have visited several of the same saloons in Missouri

 

> > (she bills him as knowing every bar in Missouri) but we were able

 

to

 

> > tell them about Shady Jack's in Villa Ridge and the Elbow Inn in

 

> > Devils Elbow. Thoroughly enjoyed shooting the breeze with true

 

> > roadies.

 

> >

 

> > We stopped at the Chain of Rocks Bridge on the return trip and

 

walked

 

> > out to the new scenic overlook. That's a very scary place, by the

 

> > way, and one that I don't really care to walk on. It's a VERY

 

long

 

> > way to the water. Saw one lone eagle coasting around before we

 

had

 

> > to give it up in favor of the warm car.....Bliss

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

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Guest Jim Conkle

Hello all you roadies. We are getting down to the wire on our DC trip to

 

promote our beloved road. If you remember last month the decision was made

 

to not caravan with my motor home but to fly instead.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have not heard back from anyone else that they are going or wanted

 

information on what we were trying to accomplish. Guy will be adding the

 

final chapter to our Caravan story with photos and text of our visit to DC.

 

That along with reporting back to all the states associations, the

 

Federation, American Road & Route 66 Magazines and to the e-group members,

 

the details of our successful trip some how everyone will get the full

 

report. Now how do I know that the trip will be a success? For all the work

 

that has been done leading up to the actual trip the word is coming back to

 

us that we have succeeded in making many folks aware of our campaign and

 

needs for more funding. Which was and is our goal for doing the whole event

 

in the first place?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We have made every effort to make contact with all the associations and to

 

spread the word that this project was going on. We wanted this to be a joint

 

effort with everyone that wanted to attend, adding their voices and be

 

included in what ever way possible given the chance. The following is the

 

list of folks going and/or supporting our campaign:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Going to DC

 

Supporting

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Illinois Missouri

 

International

 

 

 

Jeff LaFollette Tommy Pike

 

National Historic Route 66 Federation, David Knudson

 

 

 

Patty Kuhn Emily Priddy

 

Route 66 E-Group

 

 

 

 

 

Norwegian Route 66 Association

 

 

 

Route 66

 

Canadian Route 66 Association

 

 

 

Michael Wallis New Mexico

 

Swa Frantzen

 

 

 

Johnnie Meier

 

 

 

 

 

Texas

 

 

 

 

 

Diana Hutton Oklahoma

 

 

 

Tulsa Event

 

 

 

 

 

California

 

 

 

 

 

Glen Duncan

 

 

 

 

 

Steve Henthorn

 

 

 

 

 

Jim Conkle

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Documenter & Official Photographer

 

 

 

Guy Randall (also Texas)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We have not heard back from the state associations in Arizona, Kansas or

 

Oklahoma. So if any of you have contact with them, please get someone on

 

their board this information. We want very much to show a united front when

 

we speak to folks in DC. Also if there are any other groups or people that

 

should be included that we have left out or forgotten please forward this on

 

to them and let me know who to contact. We do not have much time left so

 

this needs to be a priority if we are to add letters and names to our

 

presentations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James M. Conkle

 

 

 

CEO

 

 

 

Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

 

 

P O Box 290066

 

 

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

 

 

760 617 3991 cell

 

 

 

760 868 3320

 

 

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

 

 

jim@cart66pf.org

 

 

 

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Laurel,

 

If it's not too late, be sure to take some digitals of any activity

 

at the Ranch and post them in the Files or Photos section. I think

 

anyone who's ever been to Buffalo Ranch in the past or has had a bite

 

to eat at the Dairy Ranch recently would appreciate it.

 

 

 

Pat in Speedway

 

http://www.theroadmaven.com/images/OK01-15.JPG

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, laurelrk66@a... wrote:

 

> In a message dated 2/18/2003 4:22:51 PM Central Standard Time,

 

> americanroad@m... writes:

 

>

 

>

 

> > And Laurel: Is there some way you can contact Betty and make sure

 

she

 

> > is getting the pieces of the Ranch she believes she is getting

 

before

 

> > the wrecking ball hits? I don't know how many people she has on

 

hand to

 

> > help her tote things, and I want to make sure this demolition

 

doesn't

 

> > cause her any more grief.

 

> >

 

>

 

> Thomas,

 

>

 

> That's all been taken care of. First of all, Betty happens to be a

 

longtime

 

> friend of the new owner, and he admires and cares very much for

 

her. I have

 

> NO doubt that she'll be able to keep everything she wants from

 

Dairy Ranch

 

> with no interference from him whatsoever. He told me a number of

 

times how

 

> happy he is to be able to give the items to Betty. Secondly, my ex-

 

husband

 

> and Betty's son Stacey are planning to help Betty get the big signs

 

off the

 

> roof within the next day or two (maybe even today... I'm not

 

sure). I'll run

 

> by there tomorrow and see what's happening at the site.

 

>

 

> Wow, isn't that the truth about the limeade? That was the best

 

liquid

 

> refreshment on the Route, hands down, at least in my opinion.

 

>

 

> Thanks, Thomas, for being so supportive of those of us who must

 

watch this

 

> transition between the old and the new at close range. As a

 

relative

 

> newcomer to Afton, the demolition isn't going to be as emotional

 

for me as it

 

> will be for Betty. She's a true Route 66 icon and a wonderful

 

lady. She

 

> thinks the world of you, too.

 

>

 

> We'll keep you posted!

 

>

 

> Laurel

 

>

 

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--- mike shadman <mike_shadman@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

> Bob, I just join this group. What route went over the bridge, if any? Can

 

> you give me more details?

 

>

 

> George

 

 

 

Here is the entire text of the article -- answer is Hwy 83.

 

 

 

 

 

History buffs look to save bridge that almost doomed Bonnie and Clyde

 

12:50 PM CST on Friday, February 6, 2004

 

 

 

By BRIAN ANDERSON / Dallas Web Staff

 

 

 

 

 

It’s the Texas bridge that almost did what dozens of lawmen couldn’t – end

 

the crime spree of Bonnie and Clyde.

 

 

 

Now, the historic truss bridge spanning the Salt Fork of the Red River is on

 

the Texas Department of Transportation’s most-wanted list.

 

 

 

“That bridge means a lot to the people of Collingsworth County,” said Darwin

 

Lankford, a bridge engineer with the transportation department’s Childress

 

office. “It means a lot to us, but it’s a liability to us, too.”

 

 

 

State officials say the Panhandle bridge must undergo extensive – and

 

expensive – repairs or it faces demolition. However, residents are forming

 

their own posse to chase down the dollars needed to save the historic span.

 

 

 

Washed out

 

Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow, along with Barrow’s brother Buck, were no

 

doubt keeping a sharp lookout for the law the night of June 10, 1933, as they

 

raced along what is today U.S. 83 north of Wellington, Texas. They should

 

have been watching the road.

 

 

 

Floodwaters had washed out the bridge ahead, but the outlaws failed to

 

realize the approaching danger. Their car careened over the embankment.

 

Bonnie became pinned in the wreckage and suffered severe burns to her legs.

 

 

 

 

 

Historic Wellington, Inc.

 

Inspections on the bridge have determined it to be in worse shape than

 

originally thought. From their home on a nearby bluff, farmer Sam Pritchard

 

and his family witnessed the accident. They helped pull Bonnie to safety and

 

took her to their home, where the outlaws held them at gunpoint.

 

 

 

Responding to reports of an accident, the county sheriff and another lawman

 

arrived at the Pritchard home, only to become hostages themselves. Using the

 

sheriff’s car, the outlaws fled to Oklahoma with the captive officers,

 

eventually releasing them unharmed.

 

 

 

Expensive repairs

 

More than 70 years later, state officials fear motorists cruising over the

 

old crash site could meet a similar fate.

 

 

 

“Sooner or later, it’s going to fall over,” Lankford said of the bridge,

 

explaining that the structure’s crumbling concrete deck and lead-based paint

 

pose significant danger.

 

 

 

According to Lankford, state officials had hoped to bypass the old bridge

 

with a new $2 million structure for carrying automobile traffic across the

 

river. The old bridge, which has been listed in the National Register of

 

Historic Places, was to be preserved and converted for pedestrian access at a

 

cost of $400,000 to $500,000 in federal highway money, the same amount that

 

would have been spent to demolish it.

 

 

 

However, subsequent inspections have determined the bridge is in far worse

 

shape than initially thought and renovations actually would cost closer to $1

 

million. With a $500,000 projected shortfall, officials admit that demolition

 

seems a far more likely fate.

 

 

 

“There’s no doubt that the bridge can be fixed up,” Lankford said. “It’s just

 

a matter of who’s going to pay for it.”

 

 

 

Bridging the gap

 

The three-span bridge, built in 1939 as part of a federal works program,

 

isn’t the same structure from which Bonnie and Clyde took their Red River

 

plunge, though it stands near the former location of its wooden predecessor.

 

A historical marker nearby recounts the harrowing events of 1933, and the

 

splintered ruins of the Pritchard farmhouse remain a few hundred yards away.

 

 

 

Also Online

 

Bonnie and Clyde: Reality less romantic than outlaw legend

 

“From very early childhood, I heard about Bonnie and Clyde going through

 

there,” said Wes Reeves, an Amarillo communications consultant who grew up in

 

Wellington. “It all happened right about there where the bridge is. People

 

always associate Bonnie and Clyde with the bridge.”

 

 

 

For that reason, Reeves and his nonprofit group, Historic Wellington, Inc.,

 

are organizing to save the bridge from the wrecking ball. On Thursday, the

 

National Trust for Historic Preservation awarded the group a grant to hire

 

its own experts to examine the endangered bridge’s condition.

 

 

 

“We want them to do an independent study and come to our own conclusions,”

 

Reeves said.

 

 

 

Though demolition contracts were tentatively scheduled for this summer,

 

Lankford said his office is willing to delay those plans while

 

preservationists work to win grant funding.

 

 

 

A point of pride

 

Beyond its role in the Bonnie and Clyde saga, the bridge over the Salt Fork

 

also holds significance as one of the state’s few remaining truss bridges,

 

Reeves said.

 

 

 

The design, which uses a steel framework constructed above and over the

 

roadway, fell out of favor with state engineers long ago. But at the time of

 

its construction, the bridge represented modern innovation to the rural

 

residents of Wellington.

 

 

 

“The closest thing we had to industrial was cotton gins,” Reeves said. “It

 

was kind of a coming of age for the county. It’s always been a point of

 

pride.”

 

 

 

 

 

E-mail briananderson@dallasnews.com

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

That sounds like a great trip...my Dad used to love driving up 79 to

 

Clarksdale to see the Eagles up there--there were apparently a lot of them!

 

Also the Lock and Dam North of St. Charles by Winfield (which I think you

 

access from 79) usually has a bunch of Eagles, too...see ja next

 

Saturday...Tsingtao, Kip

 

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Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Eagles

 

 

 

 

 

> Man, oh man....What a great day trip we took today! Cruised the new

 

> Monte Carlo up IL 100 from Alton, IL to Grafton and points north to

 

> check out the eagles "fishing" on the river. Saw many, many of them

 

> and we were just in awe of their grace and beauty. Turned east onto

 

> IL 16 and cruised into Jerseyville, then turned west onto IL 109 back

 

> into Grafton. Stopped at Sengers' bar on the downtown strip and shot

 

> the breeze with a couple of other roadies from St. Charles. They're

 

> Harley people but also have a '68 454 Impala and a '37 Chevy with a

 

> small block. He (didn't exchange names) rebuilds the cars himself.

 

> Turns out we have visited several of the same saloons in Missouri

 

> (she bills him as knowing every bar in Missouri) but we were able to

 

> tell them about Shady Jack's in Villa Ridge and the Elbow Inn in

 

> Devils Elbow. Thoroughly enjoyed shooting the breeze with true

 

> roadies.

 

>

 

> We stopped at the Chain of Rocks Bridge on the return trip and walked

 

> out to the new scenic overlook. That's a very scary place, by the

 

> way, and one that I don't really care to walk on. It's a VERY long

 

> way to the water. Saw one lone eagle coasting around before we had

 

> to give it up in favor of the warm car.....Bliss

 

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Guest Anthony Poole

Howdy, folks!!

 

 

 

Looks like this egroup is growing by leaps and bounds!!

 

 

 

I wanted to take some time and thank everyone that we met during

 

Thunder on 66 back in August, 02. We all had a great time-but the

 

run was scheduled into too few days to really enjoy the trip-and the

 

people.

 

 

 

So-I took the lessons of the run-and the constructive criticism I

 

received from you folks-to help with planning the trip for 05. With

 

that year being the 50th Anniversary of the Thunderbird, I'm working

 

with Ford Motor Company to promote the trip as a celebration of the

 

Bird. We're taking 21 days to make the trip this time-averaging 200

 

miles per day, with the longest day being 249 miles and the shortest

 

being 170. We're receiving registrations already-the group will be

 

broken up into smaller groups so that we don't hit all at once at

 

any stop.

 

 

 

I won't know final numbers until December, 04-but we have about 40

 

already.

 

 

 

Anyone who wants a copy of the CD showcasing our first run, just

 

send me an email and I'll get one out to you.

 

 

 

Happy Motoring!!

 

 

 

Tony Poole

 

Cedar Valley Thunderbirds

 

 

 

Here's a small sampling of the stories we have to tell from 02:

 

 

 

I should tell you about our little misadventure when we left Afton.

 

We decided to bypass Tulsa, so we hopped over to the nearest Tollway

 

entrance. We found the entrance, and I started accelerating hard up

 

the ramp-just as Deb hollers that I needed to get a ticket at the

 

dispenser. By then it's too late for us and the 6 cars that

 

followed. So we all pulled over, and tried to figure out how to get

 

tickets for 7 cars. Roger went down and started jumping up and down

 

on the trigger plate-and was promptly told by Bruce that since he

 

didn't weigh 2000lbs, that there was no way that would work. Finally

 

we figured out that one car, backing up and moving over the plate

 

would get one ticket for each car. All the while, we had some locals

 

watching us with amusement.

 

 

 

We finally get the tickets we need-and we head off towards Tulsa

 

when Roger realizes he hadn't gotten a ticket for himself-

 

fortunately he was able to grab one, and we headed towards Foyil,

 

Claremore and the Seaba Station.

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Good job Pat

 

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Guest Shellee Graham

Hey folks,

 

 

 

Just wanted to let you

 

Know about the upcoming

 

performances MARCH 25 - 28TH at Washington University...

 

What?s the play called? Kid Peculiar at the Coral Court Motel.

 

 

 

O N S T A G E

 

Thursday, March 25 Opening Night 8 p.m.

 

Performing Arts Department Production. Kid Peculiar at the Coral Court

 

Motel. Andrea Urice, dir. (Also 8 p.m. March 26 & 27, 2 p.m. March 27 & 28.)

 

Cost: $12, $8 for seniors, students, WUSTL faculty & staff. Mallinckrodt

 

Student Center, A.E. Hotchner Studio Theatre. 935-6543.

 

 

 

written by Carter W. Lewis,

 

playwright-in-residence, Washington University, St. Louis

 

 

 

This synopsis was sent to me, in a personal email message (not as a press

 

release):

 

 

 

The play centers on a meeting

 

between an estranged mother

 

and son at the CORAL COURT MOTEL.

 

 

 

Madeline, a high-powered administrator

 

For the Commission on Presidential debates,

 

lives in DC but is in St. Louis for the 1992

 

debates held at Washington University. Her 17-

 

year-old son, Stamp, lives in St. Louis with

 

Madeline's mother, but they come together

 

every year at the Coral Court for their

 

annual visit. The reason: Stamp was

 

conceived at the Coral Court on

 

Madeline's prom night. They

 

lived together on and off,

 

but Madeline's burgeoning

 

career and several husbands

 

led her further and further

 

away from her son, and all

 

they have left is this

 

yearly get-together at

 

the Coral Court. On

 

this particular

 

meeting that

 

the play

 

captures,

 

however,

 

resentments

 

are played out

 

and secrets shared,

 

and their relationship is changed unalterably.

 

--------------------------------------------------------------------

 

 

 

Just recently I found out that my book was a big inspiration for the play,

 

so I was quite happy about that. Also, some of my photographs will be used

 

for the play?s publicity. Thanks for reading.

 

 

 

Shellee Graham

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Normally we don't announce new members to the list, but today I'd

 

like to tell you all about a member who signed up today.

 

 

 

His name is Manoj Patel. Manoj's parents purchased the Wigwam Motel

 

(#7) in Rialto, CA recently and have performed a miracle with it. As

 

many of you Route 66 travelers out there know, the Wigwam in Rialto

 

was recently a "rent by the hour" dive that was a prime candidate to

 

have a date with a bulldozer, as is the fate with so many of the

 

historic motels on Route 66.

 

 

 

As I'm sure Manoj will shortly introduce himself to the list, he can

 

tell you more of what the Wigwam is now like since his parents have

 

purchased it. Even though Route 66 has lost many (and is on the verge

 

of losing more) historic motels, the save of the Wigwam is a great

 

source of hope for those interested in the preservation of our

 

highway icons. I can't help but think of how the salvation of Wigwam

 

#7 mirrors that of Wigwam #2 in Cave City, KY and the work Ivan John

 

has done there. Congrats Manoj!!

 

 

 

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Maybe we can make reservations via the list?

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Pat B." <roadmaven@a...> wrote:

 

> Normally we don't announce new members to the list, but today I'd

 

> like to tell you all about a member who signed up today.

 

>

 

> His name is Manoj Patel. Manoj's parents purchased the Wigwam Motel

 

> (#7) in Rialto, CA recently and have performed a miracle with it.

 

As

 

> many of you Route 66 travelers out there know, the Wigwam in Rialto

 

> was recently a "rent by the hour" dive that was a prime candidate

 

to

 

> have a date with a bulldozer, as is the fate with so many of the

 

> historic motels on Route 66.

 

>

 

> As I'm sure Manoj will shortly introduce himself to the list, he

 

can

 

> tell you more of what the Wigwam is now like since his parents have

 

> purchased it. Even though Route 66 has lost many (and is on the

 

verge

 

> of losing more) historic motels, the save of the Wigwam is a great

 

> source of hope for those interested in the preservation of our

 

> highway icons. I can't help but think of how the salvation of

 

Wigwam

 

> #7 mirrors that of Wigwam #2 in Cave City, KY and the work Ivan

 

John

 

> has done there. Congrats Manoj!!

 

>

 

> Pat Bremer

 

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Alex B, I really enjoyed your memories of your Uncle Prescott...he sounds

 

like he was quite a neat uncle.

 

 

 

I can sympathise with the loss of childhood keepsakes...all my mid-late 60s

 

Marvel comics (given to me by a comic-book reading uncle) went in the trash

 

many decades ago! Like you, I searched out much of them (mostly thru

 

reprints).

 

 

 

A road trip to CA at age 15...wow!

 

 

 

Thanks again,

 

 

 

Jerry

 

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> I was sitting here today looking at a 1930's road map of

 

> Kentucky/Tennessee and I thought of my Uncle Prescot. I hadn't

 

> thought about my mothers brother, Uncle Prescott, in a long, long

 

> time - to busy with todays hustle and bustle, I suppose. Now, I know

 

> this isn't really a "road" story - but the open highway is in here,

 

> along with everything else. So, if you want to travel with me a

 

> little way, read on - if memories bore you, then stop here.

 

>

 

> But it was Uncle Prescott who instilled in me the urge to find out,

 

> in a manner of speaking, what was over the hill and far away. He was

 

> a traveling salesman from sometime in the 1930's to the early 60's -

 

> when the interstate system started building he had the foresight to

 

> realize, quite vocally, this new system would turn road trips into a

 

> mindless rush to nowhere.

 

>

 

> I remember when I was, oh, 10, 11, maybe even 9, Uncle Prescott

 

> came by - during the summer months he brought his wares - I don't

 

> recall now just what it was he sold, but I think it was beads and

 

> baubles - probably what today would be called Junque (note the

 

> spelling)or maybe antique - to Maine and New England. This one trip

 

> he brought me what can only be called a "Magic" box - a box filled

 

> with road maps of the 1930's and 1940's - this would have been right

 

> after WWII. How he plied his trade during the war years I do not

 

> know. But I do know he did arrive in Maine every year around the 1st

 

> part of June - even during the war years.

 

>

 

> It was Uncle Prescott who, much to my mothers dismay, planted the

 

> idea of THE TRIP to California that my friend and I, at the age of 15

 

> (don't try this today, kids) made. I remember also another time not

 

> long after the magic box he brought another - with several albums

 

> filled to bursting with post cards. I know for a time he operated

 

> out of St. Louis, so he must have had a western route, because there

 

> were road maps clear out to CA and the post card albums also had

 

> cards from those states in addition to those in the east.

 

>

 

> As an aside I also had quite a collection of aircraft recognition

 

> cards from the war years I got from one of my relatives. Yes, Uncle

 

> Prescott turned me into a pack rat - that is one thing I've retained.

 

>

 

> It was easier for kids back then - we had what kids today seem to

 

> have lost. A sense of imagination. I could sit and listen to Uncle

 

> Prescotts stories of his travels and I could see the sun setting on

 

> distant hills with an old highway winding thru them. With this thing

 

> called imagination I could put together a few pieces of wood, and

 

> sail it in a nearby pond - and I had the clipper ships ARIEL or CUTTY

 

> SARK, maybe Donald McKay's LIGHTENING - whatever we wanted.

 

>

 

> So what happened to my marvelous collection - I left home in

 

> October 1955 after joining the Navy. I came home on boot leave 3

 

> months later to find mother had put away my "childish" things - in

 

> the nearest trash can. A very familiar situation. All was gone - my

 

> aircraft recognition cards, my magic boxes that took me to so many

 

> places and gave me a sense of wanderlust, many things I had

 

> accumulated during my childhood years. Well, Mother, the joke is on

 

> you - I've got some of it back thru a medium called "ebay!!!!!"

 

>

 

> So, in a sense, this long winded post is a thank you to my Uncle

 

> Prescott who taught me that you can dare to be adventurous. Let's

 

> see, if alive today he'd be around 105, 106 or so. I last saw him at

 

> the age of 80 at his apartment in Philadelphia. Sad to say he and

 

> Aunt Isabelle, who had patiently put up with his wanderings for years

 

> (Uncle Prescott would have been, in the 1950's, called a beatnick -

 

> he was a little ahead of his time), were living in a rather rundown

 

> neighborhood and quite literally afraid to leave their home unless it

 

> was necessary. Sad turn of affairs.

 

>

 

> Thanks Uncle, for everything I probably shouldn't be, but are glad I

 

> am!!!

 

>

 

> Hudsonly,

 

> Alex B

 

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I'm in Nevada & received it 5 days ago. There doesn't seem to be a pattern.

 

Maybe your mailman is a road enthusiast!

 

 

 

 

 

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--- "Mike Ward" <flyboy1946@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

They need to make their way west. I live in Arizona and still haven't gotten my

 

copy yet!

 

 

 

Mike Ward

 

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Oh goodie - they are making their way east!!!!

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

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>

 

> Carol

 

>

 

>

 

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> Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...> wrote:

 

>

 

> > Still waiting in New England - but we ARE at the

 

> end

 

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> is

 

> > still using horses up this way. Same thing with

 

> the

 

> > Hudson auto club publication I get - the standing

 

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> > > Well I got mine on Saturday, and the only

 

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> > > am disappointed about is

 

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> then

 

> > > dried, then wadded into a

 

> > > pulp, then crammed into my little 2"x3"

 

> community

 

> > > metal mailbox... the first

 

> > > 20 pages are all stuck together and unreadable

 

> !!!!

 

> > >

 

> > > GGGRRRRR!!!!!

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > =====

 

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> > > ______________________

 

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Well, here's a possible reason why some of you haven't received your copies

 

yet. They're all being sent to me! Just kidding, but I DID get three

 

copies in the mail today. Oops! I think I know where the problem lies, but

 

I'll work it out with the Mock Turtle folks in a private email. Meanwhile,

 

as far as I'm concerned, it's impossible to get too much of a good thing!

 

 

 

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He also likes my Hudson club magazine too. And maybe

 

my U S Route 40 (George Stewart) book.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- Glenn <glenninvegas@juno.com> wrote:

 

>

 

> I'm in Nevada & received it 5 days ago. There

 

> doesn't seem to be a pattern. Maybe your mailman is

 

> a road enthusiast!

 

>

 

>

 

> Glenn Adams

 

> glenninvegas@juno.com

 

> http://www.lasvegasregion.com

 

>

 

> --- "Mike Ward" <flyboy1946@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

>

 

> They need to make their way west. I live in Arizona

 

> and still haven't gotten my copy yet!

 

>

 

> Mike Ward

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: Alex Burr

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 4:02 PM

 

> Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: I got mine

 

>

 

>

 

> Oh goodie - they are making their way east!!!!

 

>

 

> Hudsonly,

 

> Alex B

 

>

 

> --- "C.A.Ruth" <twolane23@usadatanet.net> wrote:

 

> > Have faith Alex - I am in Western NYS and mine

 

> came

 

> > today! Chock full

 

> > of goodies it is too!

 

> >

 

> > Carol

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > > Still waiting in New England - but we ARE at

 

> the

 

> > end

 

> > > of the delivery road. I think the postal

 

> service

 

> > is

 

> > > still using horses up this way. Same thing

 

> with

 

> > the

 

> > > Hudson auto club publication I get - the

 

> standing

 

> > joke

 

> > > in the club is, when I get my copy, I let the

 

> > editor

 

> > > know. Then he knows everybody else has

 

> theirs.

 

> > LOL

 

> > >

 

> > > Good things come to those who wait!!

 

> > >

 

> > > Hudsonly,

 

> > > Alex B

 

> > >

 

> > > --- Bobby Worley <bwcobra15@y...> wrote:

 

> > > > Well I got mine on Saturday, and the only

 

> > thing I

 

> > > > am disappointed about is

 

> > > > the *#&$@&!@!!! USPS delivered it soaking

 

> wet,

 

> > then

 

> > > > dried, then wadded into a

 

> > > > pulp, then crammed into my little 2"x3"

 

> > community

 

> > > > metal mailbox... the first

 

> > > > 20 pages are all stuck together and

 

> unreadable

 

> > !!!!

 

> > > >

 

> > > > GGGRRRRR!!!!!

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > > =====

 

> > > >

 

> > > > ______________________

 

> > > > Bob & Anneliese Worley

 

> > > > Cedar Hill, Texas

 

> > > > www.Worley-World.com

 

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> > > >

 

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Was wandering thru my daughters web site the other night and noted

 

that she posted our father/daughter vacation pictures of our trip to

 

South Dakota. Not a really true "road" trip as we sprinkled

 

interstates in with the old highways. But you might want to take a

 

look - if so the web site is:

 

 

 

http://groups.msn.com/Rambles/shoebox.msnw

 

 

 

Click on "Great Western Adventure.

 

 

 

We did cover some of the old roads tho: US 61 West Memphis-New

 

Madrid; north of St. Jo, MO we took US 71 to Maryville (wrong turn

 

north of St. Jo) and then US 136 back to I-29.

 

 

 

In South Dakota; US 14A from Sturgis down thru Deadwood and Lead to

 

US 85 to Newcastle, WY for lunch with a friend of mine; then south on

 

85 to US 18 over to Hot Springs, SD, south on 385 to Chadron, NE, east

 

on US 20 to Valentine, for an overnight.

 

 

 

Next day it was US 83 south to North Platte and then the interstate

 

east to visit the Air Force SAC museum in Ashland, NE, winding up the

 

day back in St. Joseph for a tour of the Pony Express museum and an

 

overnight stay. NOTE: We both were wide awake at 4am so decided to

 

leave Valentine early. Trucking south toward N. Platte on 83 we met

 

about 6 or 8 cows rambling north in the southbound lane. Not

 

soemthing to make your day when it's dark out - and it is dark out

 

there on the high plains at night. But we spotted them in time and

 

were able to slow down enough so not damages incured.

 

 

 

From St. Jo we went south to Kansas City and then US 71 on down to

 

Carthage, stopping in Nevada to tour a neat museum and in Carthage we

 

visited a civil war museum and then on down the road a little outside

 

Carthage the civil war battlefield.

 

 

 

Leaving Carthage, we decided to stay on the old roads - and wound up

 

on what is now MO 96 - but is actually old US 66. We finished our

 

trip that day, picking up US 60 to Willow Springs (nice place to eat

 

there) and then US 63 down into Arkansas to Jonesboro. They are in the

 

process of bringing I-55 up the old US 63 as I-155. It's up to

 

Jonesboro at the moment. I suppose eventually it may run all the way

 

to Springfield, MO, and another grand old highway will be buried in

 

the name of progress.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

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An interesting read from down under:

 

 

 

New Zealand Herald - Auckland,New Zealand

 

... This character-filled landmark within whistle-blow of the Santa

 

Fe rail line and just off Route 66 has hosted any number of famous

 

characters, living and dead. ...

 

 

 

http://tinyurl.com/3agmq

 

 

 

Ron

 

Tulsa, OK

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