Guest Mike Ward Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 Bob, The ISBN is 0-681-62683-6. The author is listed as Michael Karl Witzel. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobby Worley To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Americana Do you have an ISBN or author's name on the book?? Mustangly, Bob Alex Burr <hester_nec@yahoo.com> wrote: Picked up a fascinating soft cover book at our local Borders bookstore last weekend. "Americana - Roadside Memories" Starts out with Rt 66 and goes thru each state going west. Then it goes to Gas Station Memories and has chapters on stations, attendants, pumps, globes, etc. The last chapter is devoted to Drive-In's and titled Drive-In Deluxe. This covers the origins (how many know Steak and Shake was started back in 1934 by Gus Belt, or has anyone heard of Clown Hamburgers, or what the initials A & W (as in A & W root beer) stand for - it's the initials of the two fellow that started A & W in the 1920's - Roy Allen and Frank Wright. There's lots of other great stuff in the nearly 300 pages of this book - something to go hunt for on a weekend. Hudsony, Alex B PS - Route 66 wasn't the only road to have a gasoline with it's number on it - in this book is a picture of a logo - circular in shape around the outside it says "HIGHWY FORTY GASOLINE" and has the U S 40 number and shield in the middle. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 Mike, You are correct - it is a compilation of "Route 66" by Tim Steil, 2002, Gas Station Memories and #3 Drive-In Deluxe, both by Michael Karl Witzel, 1994. And the price I paid, off the discount table, was the same. Hudsonly, Alex B --- Mike Ward <flyboy1946@hotmail.com> wrote: > Alex, > > I also picked up the same book at Borders last > Friday. I believe it is a compilation of three > other books, two by Michael Karl Witzel, and one by > Tim Steil. As it turns out I have all three of > those books but I couldn't pass up this book at the > price I paid, $7.95, and it's a brand new book, > copyright 2003. > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alex Burr > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:41 PM > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Americana > > > Picked up a fascinating soft cover book at our > local Borders > bookstore last weekend. "Americana - Roadside > Memories" > > Starts out with Rt 66 and goes thru each state > going west. Then it > goes to Gas Station Memories and has chapters on > stations, attendants, > pumps, globes, etc. The last chapter is devoted > to Drive-In's and > titled Drive-In Deluxe. This covers the origins > (how many know Steak > and Shake was started back in 1934 by Gus Belt, or > has anyone heard of > Clown Hamburgers, or what the initials A & W (as > in A & W root beer) > stand for - it's the initials of the two fellow > that started A & W in > the 1920's - Roy Allen and Frank Wright. > > There's lots of other great stuff in the nearly > 300 pages of this > book - something to go hunt for on a weekend. > > Hudsony, > Alex B > > PS - Route 66 wasn't the only road to have a > gasoline with it's number > on it - in this book is a picture of a logo - > circular in shape around > the outside it says "HIGHWY FORTY GASOLINE" and > has the U S 40 number > and shield in the middle. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box > 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > Terms of Service. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tim steil Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 Hey Alex Glad you like the book. Actually, it is a compilation of three previously released Motorbooks Enthusiast Color Series books, written by myself and Michael Witzel.. Due to a bit of fine print in my contract with the publisher, they are able to keep releasing it under different names without any input/approval from the authors, and pay us pretty much nothing. In this particular instance, they shafted us out of about 50K in royalty payments. Anyway, hope you enjoy. I really need to read those contracts before I sign them eh? best Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Burr <hester_nec@yahoo.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:41 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Americana > Picked up a fascinating soft cover book at our local Borders > bookstore last weekend. "Americana - Roadside Memories" > > Starts out with Rt 66 and goes thru each state going west. Then it > goes to Gas Station Memories and has chapters on stations, attendants, > pumps, globes, etc. The last chapter is devoted to Drive-In's and > titled Drive-In Deluxe. This covers the origins (how many know Steak > and Shake was started back in 1934 by Gus Belt, or has anyone heard of > Clown Hamburgers, or what the initials A & W (as in A & W root beer) > stand for - it's the initials of the two fellow that started A & W in > the 1920's - Roy Allen and Frank Wright. > > There's lots of other great stuff in the nearly 300 pages of this > book - something to go hunt for on a weekend. > > Hudsony, > Alex B > > PS - Route 66 wasn't the only road to have a gasoline with it's number > on it - in this book is a picture of a logo - circular in shape around > the outside it says "HIGHWY FORTY GASOLINE" and has the U S 40 number > and shield in the middle. > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bobby Worley Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 Thanks for the additional info, guys! I'll be swingin by Barnes & Noble on the way home. I already have the Tim Steil book and several Witzel books.. but, what the hey its only money .. Fordly, Bob Alex Burr <hester_nec@yahoo.com> wrote: Mike, You are correct - it is a compilation of "Route 66" by Tim Steil, 2002, Gas Station Memories and #3 Drive-In Deluxe, both by Michael Karl Witzel, 1994. And the price I paid, off the discount table, was the same. Hudsonly, Alex B --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tim steil Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 hey Bob just so you know.....they are only available at Borders ts ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobby Worley <bwcobra15@yahoo.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Americana > Thanks for the additional info, guys! I'll be swingin by Barnes & Noble on the way home. I already have the Tim Steil book and several Witzel books.. but, what the hey its only money .. > > Fordly, > Bob > > Alex Burr <hester_nec@yahoo.com> wrote: > Mike, > > You are correct - it is a compilation of "Route 66" > by Tim Steil, 2002, Gas Station Memories and #3 > Drive-In Deluxe, both by Michael Karl Witzel, 1994. > > And the price I paid, off the discount table, was > the same. > > Hudsonly, > Alex B > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bobby Worley Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 D'oh! Thanks for the heads up... saves me the gas and disappointment. Anyways, since you got screwed outta the royalties maybe I'll just keep my discressionary income outta Motorbooks' pocket. Blue Ovally, Bob tim steil <Tim@timsteil.com> wrote: hey Bob just so you know.....they are only available at Borders ts --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tim steil Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 hey Bob,, Im sure its a nice package....I just feel for the folks who already own all three...plop down their money...then get home and say WHAT THE #$#$#$#!!!! hey.its only money..... ts ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobby Worley <bwcobra15@yahoo.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Americana > D'oh! Thanks for the heads up... saves me the gas and disappointment. Anyways, since you got screwed outta the royalties maybe I'll just keep my discressionary income outta Motorbooks' pocket. > > Blue Ovally, > Bob > > > tim steil <Tim@timsteil.com> wrote: > hey Bob > > just so you know.....they are only available at Borders > > ts > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ken Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Timmy! I take it then, by your email and our last phone convo, that if one already has the previously and separately released books, then one isn't missing anything from this new combined re-release? Book publishers aren't the only culprit. Many music CD's are being re- released, repackaged, and renamed. Especially when rights are sold to overseas entities. A crime that the authors and music artists do not receive their just due royalties in those cases!!!! Either revolt or sign again with them in the future. Only two choices. They won't quit those practices but then again,... it will be decision time again... Go indie. God Bless. Kenny --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "tim steil" <Tim@t...> wrote: > hey Bob,, > > Im sure its a nice package....I just feel for the folks who already own all > three...plop down their money...then get home and say WHAT THE #$#$#$#!!!! > > hey.its only money..... > > > ts > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bobby Worley <bwcobra15@y...> > To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:43 PM > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Americana > > > > D'oh! Thanks for the heads up... saves me the gas and disappointment. > Anyways, since you got screwed outta the royalties maybe I'll just keep my > discressionary income outta Motorbooks' pocket. > > > > Blue Ovally, > > Bob > > > > > > tim steil <Tim@t...> wrote: > > hey Bob > > > > just so you know.....they are only available at Borders > > > > ts > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285- 5434 > WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA > 98046-3168 > > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD- owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Overseas entities. Neat phrasing. I recently bought a 10 CD collection, Fabulous 50's, off ebay. It's a great collection for somebody who grew up in the 50's, as I did. When the collection arrived from the seller, I did wonder a little - the CD's were in paper envelopes, rather than jewel cases. Then I took a good look at the labeling. Jonata Recording Corporation, printed in Malaysia. Knock-off's, more than likely. Hudsonly, Alex B --- Ken <thelandrunner@yahoo.com> wrote: > Timmy! > > I take it then, by your email and our last phone > convo, that if one > already has the previously and separately released > books, then one > isn't missing anything from this new combined > re-release? > > Book publishers aren't the only culprit. Many music > CD's are being re- > released, repackaged, and renamed. Especially when > rights are sold to > overseas entities. A crime that the authors and > music artists do not > receive their just due royalties in those cases!!!! > > Either revolt or sign again with them in the future. > Only two > choices. They won't quit those practices but then > again,... it will > be decision time again... > > Go indie. > > God Bless. > > Kenny > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "tim steil" > <Tim@t...> wrote: > > hey Bob,, > > > > Im sure its a nice package....I just feel for the > folks who already > own all > > three...plop down their money...then get home and > say WHAT THE > #$#$#$#!!!! > > > > hey.its only money..... > > > > > > ts > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bobby Worley <bwcobra15@y...> > > To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:43 PM > > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Americana > > > > > > > D'oh! Thanks for the heads up... saves me the > gas and > disappointment. > > Anyways, since you got screwed outta the royalties > maybe I'll just > keep my > > discressionary income outta Motorbooks' pocket. > > > > > > Blue Ovally, > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > tim steil <Tim@t...> wrote: > > > hey Bob > > > > > > just so you know.....they are only available at > Borders > > > > > > ts > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > > > > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285- > 5434 > > WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > > > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box > 3168, Lynnwood, WA > > 98046-3168 > > > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > > > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > > > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > > > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > > > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > > > > > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD- > owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email > to: > > > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tim steil Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Turmel: You moist towlette of an ex-mailman you. How the hell are you. Best to Melissa and the Turmelettes...... You're exactly right as far as, if you own the other three, nothing new to see. They occasionally fix a typo etc, slap a different cover on it etc, but other than that, its pretty much the same ole thing. On the converse however at 7.95 I think it's a good deal for those that dont own the others, good gift for new roadies or whatever. I'd rather see someone read about and get into this stuff than not, no matter whose pocket gets the benjamins. I assume it's a nice looking piece, but they never get around to sending me a copy. Guess I'lll go to Borders and have a look myself. They did this with my Route 66 book once already, put a different cover on it, and called it "America's Route 66" and sold a few thousand of them to Target. When I protested, saying essentially "Hey...if someone goes and buys the thing thinking it's a new book, and feel they got #$%'ed, who's name is gonna be mud here?" The response i got was that their policy was caveat emptor (buyer beware), and referred me to paragraph X, subsection y of my contract.. Anyway.....Einstein on a bun I am, I signed for another book anyway. It's due out in October. I supopose I ought to finish writing the damned thing. Actually...it works out well in a twisted way. Now I'll have five books out, and only have to write three. What the hell....it worked for Enron. For a while.. What the hell, I have a great editor, and like driving around taking pictures and writing about it. I'll probably sign for another still. It's a wonderful life, and always preferable to the alternative. Info at www.timsteil.com if anyone gives a rats end. Puke-green Aerostarly Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken <thelandrunner@yahoo.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:36 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Americana > Timmy! > > I take it then, by your email and our last phone convo, that if one > already has the previously and separately released books, then one > isn't missing anything from this new combined re-release? > > Book publishers aren't the only culprit. Many music CD's are being re- > released, repackaged, and renamed. Especially when rights are sold to > overseas entities. A crime that the authors and music artists do not > receive their just due royalties in those cases!!!! > > Either revolt or sign again with them in the future. Only two > choices. They won't quit those practices but then again,... it will > be decision time again... > > Go indie. > > God Bless. > > Kenny > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "tim steil" <Tim@t...> wrote: > > hey Bob,, > > > > Im sure its a nice package....I just feel for the folks who already > own all > > three...plop down their money...then get home and say WHAT THE > #$#$#$#!!!! > > > > hey.its only money..... > > > > > > ts > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bobby Worley <bwcobra15@y...> > > To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:43 PM > > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Americana > > > > > > > D'oh! Thanks for the heads up... saves me the gas and > disappointment. > > Anyways, since you got screwed outta the royalties maybe I'll just > keep my > > discressionary income outta Motorbooks' pocket. > > > > > > Blue Ovally, > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > tim steil <Tim@t...> wrote: > > > hey Bob > > > > > > just so you know.....they are only available at Borders > > > > > > ts > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > > > > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285- > 5434 > > WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > > > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA > > 98046-3168 > > > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > > > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > > > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > > > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > > > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > > > > > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD- > owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > > > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ken Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "tim steil" <Tim@t...> wrote: > You moist towlette of an ex-mailman you... I'll probably sign for > another still. It's a wonderful life, and always preferable to the > alternative... > > Tim > So you might think. Will you ever really know? (;D Other than that me bucko, I'm doin' flippin' great! Must be the self revitalization of Thumper ridin'! See ya soon, eh? God Bless. Kenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Yesterday (Monnday) the owner (Terry Addington) told me it would be opening Thursday. There are acouple of pictures at www.dennygibson.comrt66in03day03 --Denny -----Original Message----- From: [mailto:laurelrk66@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:27 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Buffalo ranch In a message dated 6/17/2003 8:15:32 AM Central Daylight Time, mail@dennygibson.com writes: > I don't know about hours but I understand that plans are to be open this > Thursday, the 19th. > It appears to me that Thursday might be the day. All the signs went up yesterday, and most of the parking lot is paved. Since my place is less than 2 miles down the road, and since I go past there at least twice a day, I'll let everyone know when it's officially open. Betty Wheatley is helping to fill a small display case in the new Buffalo Ranch, and I'm contributing some items as well, so folks will be able to see what the old Buffalo Ranch looked like. Anyone who plans to visit the site of the old Buffalo Ranch should come into the center of Afton and visit me at Afton Station, where I have a pretty large collection of Buffalo Ranch items, old original signs, and postcards on display. Laurel Afton, OK Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Any info on when it is open? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denny Gibson" <mail@dennygibson.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:06 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Buffalo ranch > I stopped by the "new" Buffalo Ranch today and talked with the owner, > Terry Addington. They will be opening Thursday. No buffalo yet but > there are plans and some ongoing preparation. > > I also stopped at the Pig-Hip on Saturday and discovered that Ernie > Edwards is now operating it as a museum. I imagine quite a few of you > knew that but it was news to me. That is the first time I've met > Ernie. He's a great guy and he's having fun. > > --Denny Gibson > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russell S. Rein Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Fred, If anyone would know it would be Frank Brusca - and since he's a columnist for American Road I assume he's on this group. If not you can contact him via his web-site: http://www.route40.net/contact/email.shtml ypsi-slim > > Would anyone know the whereabouts of Jack Stewart, son of the late > author > George R. Stewart? George R. Stewart wrote the well-known book > "U.S. 40; A > Crossection of the United States of America". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Today, I was at the U-Drop-Inn in Shamrock, TX. I spoke with one of the workmen who thought they might be done in a month or so. It will be opening as city offices and a tourist center - not a restaurant. --Denny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...> wrote: > A month ago, I would not have been certain that US 62 even existed. Now, > after enjoying a wonderful stretch at the OH-PA border plus driving that bit > in KY, I'm with you: I'd like to do the whole thing. This road seems really > promising. I'm putting stuff on the list much faster than I'm taking them > off. > I have a name for routes like US 62 and 52. I call them "cross grain" highways because they go contrary to most of the other routes in the US system. Both are even numbered highways, but they go as much north-south as they do east-west. 62 goes from Canada to Mexico, the only even numbered route to do so. I'm not sure if it actually touches the borders, but if not, it's still pretty close. US 52 begins near the Atlantic Ocean in Charleston SC and ends up connecting with Manitoba route 39 in North Dakota. The two routes are coaligned (along with US 68) between Aberdeen and Ripley, Ohio. If you are driving downstream along the north bank of the Ohio River, you are westbound on 52 and eastbound on 62:) There's another kind of highway I call cross grain. That's the kind that crosses ridges and valleys one after another. The Tennessee Valley is full of ridges which makes for some interesting drives. Two of my favorites are VA/TN 70 from Jonesville, VA, to Rogersville, TN. Another is TN 61. This one starts going with the grain, heading NE out of Harriman until it reaches Big Ridge State Park. Then it takes a hard right, crossing ridges and valleys until it gets to SR 33. It follows that road (with the grain) to Maynardville where it heads south again through Luttrell (Chet Atkins' home town), ending at US 11W in Blaine. I've put a photo of SR 61 in the BabyBoomerBob directory. The picture was taken by the side of the road, looking north, showing the road crossing a peaceful valley. One quick OT note. I'm gotten more behind than usual on my posts. I've got several planned, but I've had some flooding in my house, and cleaning up is taking most of my time. I'll try to do better soon. BabyBoomerBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 I've spent the last three months going through 11 years of 35 mm slides and getting them scanned before they degenerate too much. I came upon a couple of pictures of an old car that was parked at an overlook on the Blue Ridge Parkway. The plate on the back says it's an old Hudson. I immediately thought of Alex:) So I've posted the two photos to the BabyBoomerBob directory. Now, I'm no expert on old cars and I'm taking that plate's word:) If I'm in error, somebody yell and get me straight:) In any case, It's one knockout of a car. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roadmaven@aol.com Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Greetings, fellow Roadies! As you know, American Road is not only an outlet for road stories, but it is concerned with the preservation of various historic structures, some of which AR will have direct involvement. So periodically I'll bring you some news of various preservation stories, as I find them. I also encourage all of you to post any stories you may find locally regarding preservation efforts. I'll get the ball rolling by posting a link to what appears to be another "save" by the Historic Landmarks Foundation of Indiana and local activists. The old Fairmount High School in Fairmount, IN has been closed since 1986 and has recently been badly deteriorating. It's been on Historic Landmark's "10 Most Endangered" list for two years now. Why the uproar about another closed school falling into disrepair? American icon James Dean graduated here in 1949. Fairmount hosts the "James Dean Festival" every September that attracts thousands worldwide. The high school serves as a place for people to see where Dean began his acting career. Thus the importance for many, especially the town of Fairmount, to keep this structure standing. Here's a link to a story regarding more about Fairmount High School: http://www.indystar.com/print/articles/3/0...9-1493-047.html Also, for more information on the work of the Historic Landmarks Foundation of Indiana, visit their website at: http://www.historiclandmarks.org You can get an idea (and maybe a little inspiration) of what can be done when the right people and resources get together. Regards, Pat Bremer List Host, American Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Hi Bob, Aw, that's an easy one!!! That is a 1929 dual cowl Sport Phaeton; one of the rarer cars in the Hudson lineup. It is, also, the only Hudson recognized as a Classic by the Classic Car Club. I know of two others - both right here in New England in Massachusetts. One is as produced - the other was converted to a funeral truck. Thanks for the post, Bob. Hudsonly, Alex B --- Bob Reynolds <roustabout@starband.net> wrote: > I've spent the last three months going through > 11 years of 35 > mm slides and getting them scanned before they > degenerate too much. > I came upon a couple of pictures of an old car that > was parked at an > overlook on the Blue Ridge Parkway. The plate on > the back says it's > an old Hudson. I immediately thought of Alex:) So > I've posted the > two photos to the BabyBoomerBob directory. > > Now, I'm no expert on old cars and I'm taking > that plate's > word:) If I'm in error, somebody yell and get me > straight:) In any > case, It's one knockout of a car. Enjoy! > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Map Girl Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 I, too, have been looking for an issue. I would also like to see one before committing to a subscription. I'll check my local Barnes & Noble(s) to see if they have it. If anyone on here is in the Bay Area, and wouldn't mind lending me an issue to thumb through, please let me know. pascha oakland, ca --- mockturtlepress <americanroad@mockturtlepress.com> wrote: > Greetings, All: > > I hope this short post finds you all well. I write > for two reasons. > > First, to the list member who finds it difficult to > locate AMERICAN ROAD on= > > their bookstore shelves. AMERICAN ROAD is currently > available through the > large chains of Barnes & Noble, Hastings, > Books-A-Million, and a number of = > > others that Rebecca Repp, our General Manager, can > list for you. > Furthermore, AMERICAN ROAD is also available through > the largest internet > magazine seller--MagazineCity.com. Distribution of > our magazine is handled = > > by Prestige Periodicals, based in New York. They do > not provide us with > listings of each individual bookstore that carries > AMERICAN ROAD. Most of > the larger chains do not provide us with a list that > indicates which of the= > ir > outlets carry our magazine either; however, Barnes & > Noble is a happy > exception to this rule. Again, if you contact > Rebecca at > becky@mockturtlepress.com, she can help you. > > I respectfully ask that you would also send Rebecca > the names of the > bookstores you have visited that tell you they have > never heard of AMERICAN= > > ROAD. Our magazine was recently cited as one of the > most notable > magazines launched in 2003. Our distributor, as I've > mentioned, works on an= > > international scale. We are available in Canada, > France, Australia, and Ne= > w > Zealand, as well as the good, ol' US of A. ANY > bookstore can find our > magazine through the International Standard Serial > Number (ISSN) system. > Our number is 1542-4316. If you have encountered an > individual unwilling to= > > check the standard system, please let us know. We > will pass this informatio= > n > along to our distributor to enlighten them. > > Second matter: Although I do not find the time to > post to this list as much= > as I > would prefer, I do read its messages every day. Over > the last several days,= > I > have seen dialogue mire its wheels in the Route 66 > re-certification debate,= > > and I want it known that AMERICAN ROAD supports Pat > and Jennifer Bremer > fully in their decision to pull the plug on that > topic. > > As to the magazine's official standing on this > debate, I declare that the > magazine, at present, does not officially have a > standing. While I do confe= > ss > strong personal convictions, I have not discussed > this matter with Dan > Marriott, members of the National Scenic Byways > Program, and any number > of others whose opinions this magazine values. The > arguments of some in > our illustrious ranks—Jim Ross, Michael Wallis, > etc.—are duly noted, and to= > > be honest, they make good sense to me. But to be > fair—as we have not > talked with all the "usual suspects" at this point—I > do not believe it appr= > opriate > for AMERICAN ROAD to take an official stand at this > time. > > I wish you all a happy Fourth of July. I hope, by > Tuesday, I will be readin= > g > about some great road trips on this list. > > Drive safely and dream well, > > Thomas Repp > Executive Editor > AMERICAN ROAD > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest queenofthemaps Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 I will be taking a trip to San Antonio probably in Sept. or October. Are there any can't-miss highway daytrips you would recommend? I'll be flying in and renting a car. thanks, pascha oakland, ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Ross Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Allen, Nice story. Too bad you didn't have my first guidebook to Oklahoma on that trip. It was published in April of 1992. Of course back then not very many stores had it and the network of 66ers as we know it today didn't exist. I hadn't even met McClanahan at that point. That book's replacement, "Oklahoma Route 66," published in 2001, tells the whole story of the Key Bridge at Bridgeport. FYI, the bridge's replacement, now known as the "Pony" bridge, opened to traffic in 1934. The fire at the swinging bridge occurred in 1946. It was demolished in 1952. Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest airfrogusmc Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Jim, I just ordered your Oklahoma book the other day. There were a lot of resources that I disovered after the 92 trip that I wish I had known about before the trip. The great thing about it is it gives you a great excuse to take another trip. Thanks for the info about the bridge. My next long 66 trip I plan on exploring a lot more of Arizona. Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 I can't claim a great road trip but I did get on the road today and had lunch/dinner at Diner 23 (http://www.dennygibson.com/images/diner23.jpg) on US23 in Waverly, OH. I didn't actually target it but remembered it was there after meandering near by on various two-lane. I know some of it was what Bob calls "cross grain". At least one intersection had both roads (OH28 & US62) marked east-west. -----Original Message----- From: mockturtlepress [mailto:americanroad@mockturtlepress.com] Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 12:26 AM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Finding Our Magazine (and Our Stand on the 66 Debate) Greetings, All: I hope this short post finds you all well. I write for two reasons. First<snip> Second<snip> I wish you all a happy Fourth of July. I hope, by Tuesday, I will be reading about some great road trips on this list. Drive safely and dream well, Thomas Repp Executive Editor AMERICAN ROAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jennifer Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Map Girl <queenofthemaps@y...> wrote: > I, too, have been looking for an issue. I would also > like to see one before committing to a subscription. > I'll check my local Barnes & Noble(s) to see if they > have it. If anyone on here is in the Bay Area, and > wouldn't mind lending me an issue to thumb through, > please let me know. > > pascha > oakland, ca Hi Pascha, Here's a sample issue in PDF format... http://www.mockturtlepress.com/arsample.html Jennifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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