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I just got a call from Brian McKay. He was in Kingman, AZ. He traveled

 

there today (7/5) from Williams with a stop in Seligman, he was very pleased to

 

find the Sno Cap open, and he spent some time talking with the folks at

 

Hackberry. He plans to go to Oatman tomorrow (7/6) and then he may make a side

 

trip

 

to Laughlin or go directly to Needles.

 

 

 

He said that Arizona has been very hard on his car especially the wheels.

 

His wheels have wooden rims and spokes and the high temperatures have been

 

causing the wood to shrink so the wheels are rattling. He has to be very

 

careful

 

on rough roads. He had planned to take a side trip to Las Vegas, but doesn't

 

want to put finishing his trip in jeopardy by going the additional miles in the

 

heat. The temperature in Needles is predicted to be 110 tomorrow.

 

 

 

I've given Brian phone numbers for those of you who are in his path,

 

although, he does not have a cell phone with him. He will be traveling on Route

 

66

 

across the Mojave Desert, and even though it is not heavy traveled, it is not

 

deserted either.

 

 

 

Brian hopes to find a library tomorrow so that he can send an update for his

 

trip log. If you would like to contact Brian his email is:

 

bmckay@horizon.bc.ca

 

 

 

Helen Baker

 

818-705-3930

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Guest Pat B.

We had a somewhat scaled back traveling weekend as well.

 

Saturday & Sunday were occupied with a major tuneup on my '93

 

Caprice. She turned over 200K miles this week (53K of those were

 

mine), so I figured it was a good time to freshen her up a bit.

 

After finishing up Sunday afternoon, we went to downtown

 

Indianapolis to watch the annual fireworks display off the roof of

 

the 36 story Union Planters Building (http://tinyurl.com/2s4pk). We

 

watched from the roof of Jennifer's office building, which was about

 

3 blocks away. Unfortunately, the wind was blowing in our direction,

 

so we had some pieces of the cardboard casings falling on us from

 

above.

 

 

 

Today we decided to take an afternoon roadtrip. We headed west on US

 

40 to US 231 south, then meandered our way back east to Bedford

 

where we had a some frozen custard at Ritter's (http://ritters.com)

 

and spotted a '66 Corvair on US 50 waiting for a loving owner

 

(http://tinyurl.com/2uexy). Up through the Hoosier National Forest,

 

we finally arrived in Nashville, IN...a tourist spot located in the

 

hills of Brown County (http://tinyurl.com/2vq4g). After perusing

 

through a few stores and snatching up a cherry Coke and some fudge,

 

we made our way up SR 135 back home and capped off the night

 

watching American Graffiti and calling it a night. Not the most

 

exciting of trips, but it beats cutting grass and trimming the

 

bushes!

 

 

 

Pat & Jennifer B.

 

Speedway, IN

 

http://roadtripmemories.com

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Guest Ken

Jim,

 

 

 

Not if you have a 66 Thumper!

 

 

 

And yes,...bring canteen(s). My experience on that is if you can clip

 

your water on your belt, then your hands are free making a safer hike.

 

 

 

Ken

 

 

 

 

 

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>

 

> La Bajada: it can be walked in about the same time it takes to

 

drive. Just be sure to carry water and use sunscreen.

 

>

 

> Jim R.

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Guest Doug Pappas

At about 9:30 this morning, a motorcade of several dozen cars pulled

 

out of New York's Times Square, eastern terminus of the Lincoln

 

Highway, on a 16-day cross-country trip to the Palace of Fine Arts in

 

San Francisco, the Lincoln's Western terminus.

 

 

 

The trip celebrates the 90th birthday of the Lincoln Highway and the

 

75th anniversary of the Boy Scouts' setting of concrete posts to mark

 

the route.

 

 

 

Official Web site for the trip: http://www.lhcruise.com/TheEvent.htm

 

 

 

Photos from the trip, to be posted each night:

 

http://www.aaca.org/tidewater/lincoln03.htm

 

 

 

My own shots from Times Square this morning:

 

http://roadsidephotos.com/LH/lhcruise.htm

 

 

 

Enjoy...and if the tour passes through your area, stop by and say

 

Hello to the participants.

 

 

 

Doug Pappas

 

New York Director, Lincoln Highway Association

 

(alas, not part of the tour...)

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In a message dated 8/17/03 6:31:01 PM Central Daylight Time, DougP001@aol.com

 

writes:

 

 

 

<< 75th anniversary of the Boy Scouts' setting of concrete posts to mark

 

the route. >

 

Hi there!

 

I totally forgot about getting the Boy Scout patches that were offered!

 

Sorry Ken. From a very embarrassed "Lulu"

 

Do you know if those patches are still available and can you give me the

 

URL? My computer is old and if I try to visit a lot of sites, I wind up getting

 

booted. So I can't be the sidetracked Queen like I used to be

 

The good news is .........I found a job at an established Chicago Restaurant

 

and guess what? It is a few yards from the Lincoln Highway!

 

The name of the place is Enrico's. It is located on the NE corner of RT. 45

 

and Rt. 30 AKA Lincoln Highway. It is in Frankfort, IL 40 miles SW of Chicago.

 

If anybody is coming thru please let me know!

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In a message dated 8/18/03 2:58:26 AM Central Daylight Time, Lulupic66 writes:

 

 

 

<< Hi Doug!

 

My nickname is Lulu. My real name is Lynn Bagdon.

 

I am interested in the old 2 lane highways. My love is Rt. 66. I am a Board

 

member of the Rt. 66 Association of IL. I was fortunate enough to travel the

 

entire Road for a month in 99.

 

I made a ton of friends out there. Then I was exposed to other Roads. I see

 

an 2 lane road and I wonder where it will lead me to.

 

I lived near the Lincoln Highway all my life. I did not realize the History

 

behind it. I always assumed it was always Rt. 30. In the northern part of IL

 

it turns into 38 near St. Charles. thru Dixon, I think. I could be very wrong

 

here.

 

The IL Faction has a group as well. Are you aware of it? Do you know that

 

the state of IL has signed the entire RT. with the red, white and blue shields?

 

The contact person in IL is

 

Clare and Ruth B Frantz

 

214 Main

 

Sugar Grove, IL 60554

 

 

 

 

 

630-466-4382

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I hope this helps and would love to stay in touch

 

Lulu >>

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My only stop at The Rock was for a soda. Will try the fries one of

 

these days. Haven't been to Cal City and probably won't make it

 

there.

 

 

 

Bliss

 

 

 

 

 

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> Sounds like a good day. I feel your pain on the "frozen fries".

 

I've never

 

> been to the East Office but will put it on my list. My own

 

candidates are

 

> the Rock, in Stroud, and the Golden Light, in Amarillo. It's been a

 

few

 

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Bliss wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

> Does anyone except the East

 

> Office in Cuba, MO actually cut potatoes anymore?

 

 

 

The Cozy Dog in Springfield, Ill., does. I've seen 'em. Yet another reason to

 

visit there during the Route 66 festival next week.

 

 

 

Ron Warnick

 

Belleville, IL

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Alex, our new Monte replaced an '87 Monte SS with 305 c.i. V8, auto

 

overdrive, t-tops, et al. Like your '86 it had a stiffer suspension

 

which I greatly enjoyed because it aided the car's handling. It

 

would still be in the stable if it had not failed Missouri's glorious

 

emissions test in 2003. The cost for compliance on the old car with

 

156K on the clock was more than I wanted to pay so I sold it to a

 

cruisin' friend in IL where no such goofy inspection is required. If

 

I ever need to get a fix by seeing or driving it, I know where to

 

find it. It still runs strong and is his daily driver. He promised

 

to give it a good home. It was originally intended for his daughter

 

but he likes the car so much that he won't let anyone drive it.

 

 

 

The new Monte is slightly "softer" on the road but still has a feel

 

similar to the old SS and I'm very happy with that. Our '77 Monte, a

 

mint former show car, doesn't see much action anymore and I feel a

 

little guilty about just letting her set covered in the garage. If I

 

could find a good home for her I would probably let her go because

 

most of our fun short trips are now made in the '79 t-top Vette.

 

She's a rough rider and needs more work but is probably the most fun

 

toy we have ever had....Bliss

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...>

 

wrote:

 

> Great report, Bliss - as I've said before I love these

 

> road reports.

 

>

 

> I only have one salient comment - I sure hope the new

 

> Monte Carlo's are more comfortable than the older

 

> ones. The '86 I had rode like a truck - maybe it had

 

> a stiffer suspension to go along with the engine it

 

> had in it - and the drivers seat was slanted back to a

 

> point where it was most uncomfortable on long trips.

 

> However, the upside is the thing would cruise all day

 

> long at 80 with no problem (except for the darn

 

> Illionis state cop who took exception to 81 in a 65

 

> zone on 'HIS' highway one time!!!) SIGH

 

>

 

> Anyway the '86 Monte is history and we find our

 

> replacement 1992 Buick Le Sabre with everything except

 

> maid service (working on it) to be much more

 

> comfortable - and even with a V-6 it will cruise

 

> comfortably at 75 all day long.

 

>

 

> Happy traveling, guys.

 

>

 

> Hudsonly,

 

> Alex B

 

>

 

> --- brownwho63 <wefly66@e...> wrote:

 

>

 

> > This is an account of our recent cruise.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > 2004 Michigan Cruise

 

> >

 

> > Day 1

 

> >

 

> > We pulled out of our driveway at 7:15 AM and battled

 

> > the traffic

 

> > around I-270 before crossing the "new" Chain of

 

> > Rocks Bridge

 

> > around

 

> > 8:00. In the interest of making the best possible

 

> > time we used I-55

 

> > (referred to as being an "ugly road" by our cruise

 

> > group) for

 

> > our

 

> > trip north. The initial plan was to spend the night

 

> > in Dwight, IL

 

> > and frequent some of our favorite haunts but using

 

> > the ugly road

 

> > exclusively put us into Dwight at 11:00, much too

 

> > early to pull off

 

> > the road for the day. We continued to Joliet and

 

> > took another ugly

 

> > road, I-80, (I will never use this road again) east

 

> > to I-94 into

 

> > Michigan City, IN. It was mid-afternoon and time to

 

> > park the car.

 

> > We checked into the Hampton Inn and had a nice room

 

> > with a walk-out

 

> > patio under a shade tree where we enjoyed a few

 

> > brews before the sky

 

> > opened up with a real frog strangler that flooded

 

> > the patio and

 

> > forced us back inside. Buffalo Wild Wings, a very

 

> > cool bar and

 

> > grille, was located next to the Hampton and we

 

> > devoured some awesome

 

> > hot wings and another brew. Still raining so it was

 

> > TV for the rest

 

> > of the evening.

 

> >

 

> > Day 2

 

> >

 

> > On the road again at 8:00 after having the Hampton

 

> > continental

 

> > breakfast. Cruised I-94 to route 12 and on through

 

> > Niles, MI. We

 

> > continued to cruise east on M-60 and received a

 

> > phone call from Bob

 

> > as we entered Cassopolis. After passing through

 

> > Jones, MI we drove a

 

> > series of back roads and finally met our group

 

> > consisting of Bob,

 

> > Peggy, Jane, and Leah near Three Rivers at a Latvian

 

> > lodge named

 

> > Atbalsis, or Echo. English is a second language

 

> > there but everyone

 

> > speaks it perfectly and we felt very much at home.

 

> > Jane and her

 

> > family have vacationed at the lodge for several

 

> > years and have asked

 

> > us to join them on several occasions but this was

 

> > the first time that

 

> > we did. The lodge's main building is an older

 

> > two-story home and

 

> > had

 

> > everything that we needed for a comfortable stay.

 

> > Jane made her

 

> > famous stuffed green peppers for dinner and then we

 

> > congregated

 

> > outside for one of our favorite events, a campfire.

 

> > We were joined

 

> > by Sandra, a Latvian from Chicago, and we all told

 

> > stories for the

 

> > rest of the evening. Great fun!

 

> >

 

> > Day 3

 

> >

 

> > Up early due to the tremendous thunderstorm and

 

> > cruised to the Happy

 

> > Landing Restaurant for a newspaper. Read the paper

 

> > on the deck while

 

> > enjoying coffee. The rest of the group arose later

 

> > and we had

 

> > a "make-do" breakfast from whatever we brought or

 

> > from what

 

> > was left

 

> > over in the fridge. We joined Peggy and Bob at the

 

> > "island"

 

> > later

 

> > that day and the girls thoroughly enjoyed sunbathing

 

> > on the dock.

 

> > Bob and I sat in the shade and guarded the beer

 

> > coolers. Cruised

 

> > into Three Rivers and bought some stuff for dinner

 

> > including smoked

 

> > Polish sausage that was excellent from the grill,

 

> > along with burgers

 

> > and steamed asparagus. The early storm had soaked

 

> > the firewood so we

 

> > opted to sit around the TV and watch our beloved

 

> > Rams demolish the

 

> > Skins. More conversation before calling it a day.

 

> >

 

> > Day 4

 

> >

 

> > This was "movin' on day" but, of course, everyone

 

> > got a

 

> > late start.

 

> > We nuked and devoured the rest of Jane's stuffed

 

> > peppers before

 

> > heading our separate ways. Leah opted to drive

 

> > straight through to

 

> > St. Louis, Peggy and Bob did some antique shopping

 

> > in Three Rivers

 

> > and got no farther south than the South Bend area.

 

> > Jane cruised to

 

> > Bloomington, IL and spent the night there before

 

> > cruisin' back

 

> > home

 

> > on `66. We had no particular time frame and no

 

> > plans so we took

 

> > M-

 

> > 60W to 40N to 43W and stopped at the beach in South

 

> > Haven. What a

 

> > beautiful beach and lake! Took the boardwalk out to

 

> > the lighthouse,

 

> > hung out there for a while, and began the search for

 

> > beachfront

 

> > lodging. Didn't find anything so we cruised north

 

> > on the Blue

 

> > Star

 

> > highway to Holland and checked out a couple of Mom

 

> > 'n Pops but

 

> > they

 

> > just didn't "feel right." We began to run out of

 

> > daylight and wanted

 

> > to begin our daily happy hour so we settled for

 

> > Holland's Econo

 

> > Lodge

 

> > with dinner later at the next-door Boston Market.

 

> >

 

> > Day 5

 

> >

 

> > We decided to continue our trek north so after

 

> > finally finding the

 

> > Blue Star highway again we headed out again. The

 

> > Blue Star highway

 

> > is a wonderful two-laner, has beautiful scenery, and

 

> > the feel of our

 

> > other favorite blue highways. We drove to the beach

 

> > in Grand Haven

 

> > and discovered both a state park and a county park

 

> > adjacent to each

 

> > other. This was just too good to pass up! The

 

> > beach wasn't

 

> > crowded

 

> > due to the clouds so we took our ever-present

 

> > portable chairs to the

 

> > water's edge and plopped down to enjoy the new

 

> > experience. Lake

 

> > Michigan reminded me of the Pacific Ocean without

 

> > the seaweed, surf,

 

> > and frigid water. The intrepid Mary Sue rolled up

 

> > her jeans and

 

> > waded out. Imagine her surprise to discovered

 

> > seventy-degree water!

 

> > I, of course, remained on the beach with my

 

> > windbreaker. Now we

 

> > really wanted to locate some beachfront lodging! A

 

> > local on the

 

> > beach recommended the Holiday Inn "on the bay" and

 

> > said

 

> > it's the only

 

> > waterfront lodging in Grand Haven. However,

 

> > immediately across the

 

> > street from the beach we discovered a two-story inn

 

> > complete with

 

> > balcony and a vacancy sign in the window. The

 

> > location was perfect

 

> > but the rooms left a little something to be desired

 

> > in our opinions

 

> > so we cruised to the Holiday. Registered and

 

> > checked in at $180 per

 

> > but were happy with our room. Third story with

 

> > balcony overlooking

 

> > the pool, outdoor bar, two marinas, and the bay.

 

> > Cool! Cruised back

 

> > to the beach again and hung out there for a while

 

> > before retreating

 

> > to our balcony for happy hour. A very pleasant

 

> > evening.

 

> >

 

> > Day 6

 

> >

 

> > Up early again and headed back south on the Blue

 

> > Star. Bought some

 

> > fresh MI peaches that were delicious. Explored

 

> > downtown

 

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In a message dated 9/5/04 9:06:54 AM Central Daylight Time,

 

wefly66@earthlink.net writes:

 

 

 

<< The cost for compliance on the old car with

 

156K on the clock was more than I wanted to pay so I sold it to a

 

cruisin' friend in IL where no such goofy inspection is required.

 

Oh no, You are wrong about IL EPA Environmental Protection Agency.. In

 

Chicago you have to comply. I lost my 86 Monte Carlo, and my 80 Chevy Capri due

 

to those laws. Right now I am sitting on a 92 Cavileir with the registration

 

suspended because of the laws... in order to get it legal? I need to go to the

 

DMV get a permit do drive it to get fixed 10 bucks and only good for 10 days.

 

It really sucks as I drive down the road and seeing black smoke belching

 

from the Semis. Nothing personal against drivers I love those guys!

 

 

 

Lulu

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Bliss, Sorry your burgers were not up to par. The Crossroads is a really neat

 

restaurant a big step back in time. I usually ask how the hamburger is made and

 

then go for a B.L.T. if the meat is not the way I want it served. Hope you took

 

some pictures of the inside. It is a place is cool........Jane

 

 

 

 

 

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Topics in this digest:

 

 

 

1. Day Trip

 

From: "brownwho63"

 

2. RE: Day Trip

 

From: "Denny Gibson"

 

3. Re: Day Trip

 

From: "brownwho63"

 

 

 

 

 

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Message: 1

 

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 21:54:19 -0000

 

From: "brownwho63"

 

Subject: Day Trip

 

 

 

Another beautiful cruisin' day not to be wasted! Fired up 'Lil Red,

 

removed the roof panels, crossed the Chain of Rocks Bridge, exited to

 

the Canal Road, and checked out Debby's ice cream place and the

 

adjoining Sun Motel. On through Mitchell -- traffic jam at '66 and

 

111 because of the new truck joint. Had to "detour" through the SIU-

 

E campus to cruise through Edwardsville. Up the outer road through

 

Livingston and checked out the downtown area for the first time

 

ever. They have a cool saloon and restaurant and I'm thinking that

 

we should have stopped. Drove to Benld and then took 138 east to Mt.

 

Olive. Stopped at the Crossroads eatery at 138 and '66 because Jane

 

said it was a cool place. Cool place but lunch was average at best.

 

Probably won't stop there again because of that. Wanted real diner-

 

type food but settled for slow service and boxed hamburger patties

 

and fries from a bag. Cost -- $9.51. Does anyone except the East

 

Office in Cuba, MO actually cut potatoes anymore? South on the

 

40's '66 alignment to Staunton past Henry's Rabbit Ranch and back

 

through Edwardsville. South on 111 to 40/64 because of the roadwork

 

on 270 and home again to St. Louis County. 'Lil Red threw a center

 

cap somewhere along the way and I ordered a $32 replacement from Mid

 

America in Effingham. Not a bad day, all things considered. Where

 

to tomorrow?

 

 

 

Cruisin',

 

Bliss

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 21:49:27 -0400

 

From: "Denny Gibson"

 

Subject: RE: Day Trip

 

 

 

Sounds like a good day. I feel your pain on the "frozen fries". I've never

 

been to the East Office but will put it on my list. My own candidates are

 

the Rock, in Stroud, and the Golden Light, in Amarillo. It's been a few

 

years but how about Johnny's Grill in Calumet ?

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 5:54 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Day Trip

 

 

 

 

 

Another beautiful cruisin' day not to be wasted! Fired up 'Lil Red,

 

removed the roof panels, crossed the Chain of Rocks Bridge, exited to

 

the Canal Road, and checked out Debby's ice cream place and the

 

adjoining Sun Motel. On through Mitchell -- traffic jam at '66 and

 

111 because of the new truck joint. Had to "detour" through the SIU-

 

E campus to cruise through Edwardsville. Up the outer road through

 

Livingston and checked out the downtown area for the first time

 

ever. They have a cool saloon and restaurant and I'm thinking that

 

we should have stopped. Drove to Benld and then took 138 east to Mt.

 

Olive. Stopped at the Crossroads eatery at 138 and '66 because Jane

 

said it was a cool place. Cool place but lunch was average at best.

 

Probably won't stop there again because of that. Wanted real diner-

 

type food but settled for slow service and boxed hamburger patties

 

and fries from a bag. Cost -- $9.51. Does anyone except the East

 

Office in Cuba, MO actually cut potatoes anymore? South on the

 

40's '66 alignment to Staunton past Henry's Rabbit Ranch and back

 

through Edwardsville. South on 111 to 40/64 because of the roadwork

 

on 270 and home again to St. Louis County. 'Lil Red threw a center

 

cap somewhere along the way and I ordered a $32 replacement from Mid

 

America in Effingham. Not a bad day, all things considered. Where

 

to tomorrow?

 

 

 

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 11:41:29 -0000

 

From: "brownwho63"

 

Subject: Re: Day Trip

 

 

 

My only stop at The Rock was for a soda. Will try the fries one of

 

these days. Haven't been to Cal City and probably won't make it

 

there.

 

 

 

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candidates are

 

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Guest Russell S. Rein

The SideTrack Cafe in Depot Town, Ypsilanti, MI still does.

 

Preston Tucker's nephew runs a coffee/ice cream shop there too.

 

 

 

ypsi-slim

 

 

 

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 13:00:40 EDT RWarn17588@aol.com writes:

 

> Bliss wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> > Does anyone except the East

 

> > Office in Cuba, MO actually cut potatoes anymore?

 

 

 

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It depends on where you live in Illinois, Lulu. If Bliss sold the

 

car to a fellow in central or southern Illinois, as I have surmised,

 

there are no EPA tests to worry about. The Chicago area and metro-

 

east are another story. Both regions have air-emissions testing.

 

 

 

Ron Warnick

 

Tulsa, OK

 

(former metro-east resident ... with a Honda Insight that couldn't

 

flunk an emissions test even if I tried)

 

 

 

 

 

> << The cost for compliance on the old car with

 

> 156K on the clock was more than I wanted to pay so I sold it to a

 

> cruisin' friend in IL where no such goofy inspection is required.

 

> Oh no, You are wrong about IL EPA Environmental Protection

 

Agency.. In

 

> Chicago you have to comply. I lost my 86 Monte Carlo, and my 80

 

Chevy Capri due

 

> to those laws. Right now I am sitting on a 92 Cavileir with the

 

registration

 

> suspended because of the laws... in order to get it legal? I need

 

to go to the

 

> DMV get a permit do drive it to get fixed 10 bucks and only good

 

for 10 days.>

 

> Lulu

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Guest Kevin C. Redden

Hi folks:

 

 

 

I'm a long-time lurker, and when Babyboomerbob posted that the Simon

 

Kenton Bridge was opened again, I went out and got photos. Finally got

 

them posted on my web site. I've taken one set - the closeups, and

 

merged them into a 20" long panorama shot. Once I figure how to post

 

it to the site, I will. I know it'll be a huge file.

 

 

 

You can find them here: http://kevinredden.name/start.html Just look

 

for the '9/5/04' news entry for links. Sorry for the sloppy web site,

 

I'm working on the design now. But thought you'd like to see the

 

photos before another year goes by :)

 

 

 

Kevin

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Guest Denny Gibson

Yep, Penn's definitely continues as an operating store. Inventory includes

 

souvenirs & craft items that I'm sure weren't there for the first century or

 

so but "real store" items like canned food are also available. I believe the

 

intended days of operation are Thursday through Sunday with Thu & Fri being

 

less reliable than Sat & Sun and Sat & Sun not 100% guaranteed. I'm sure

 

I'll be in the area again and wouldn't mind stopping by without the crowd

 

and sipping a soda on the front porch. There were probably people sitting on

 

that porch while the Battle of Perryville was being fought less than ten

 

miles away.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Jennifer [mailto:jabremer66@aol.com]

 

Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 12:45 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: From MSN: 59 Jaw-Dropping Roadside

 

Attractions

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

 

> Thanks for the tip, Jennifer. I know I've already thanked you on

 

another

 

> list but one can never be too appreciative of moderators;-)

 

>

 

 

 

You're welcome, Denny! I enjoyed reading your trip report and

 

checking out the photos. The store looks pretty neat - is it really

 

an operating store? It's hard to believe from the appearance. I went

 

to their website and it says it is, I'm curious. Might have to take a

 

road trip too!

 

 

 

Jennifer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest chris

. . less and less cars are showing up at our casual Monday night Kruise

 

Night. Tis the season I suppose. One just can't get the ol' carberators

 

tuned for the cooler temperatures. . . Those with the coupes, convertibles

 

and T-Buckets can't take the wind chill!! . . .

 

The low temp was 38°f today!!

 

 

 

I shouldn't talk, because I just hop in my wife's Cavalier and drive 4

 

blocks to take pictures! . . Did fire off a bunch last night though.

 

 

 

Focus on Chevrolet for 1937! Although I suspect the pickup a 36.

 

http://homepage.mac.com/eyerobic/37chvys/

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

I was informed yesterday that the sign was taken down (sorry, Emily, but I did

 

not know the sign was down till he told me it was). The guy said that if

 

possible they would keep the sign on site so that someone could pick it up. I

 

have called 3 or 4 people to try to get an alternative hauler to Bob at Gasoline

 

Alley but have not heard anything. Yesterday, the guy with the sign and I left

 

it at I would call if we could get somebody earlier and if not we would give Bob

 

at Bob's gasoline alley his phone nos...if the stars align, Bob will make

 

arrangements to pick up the sign and bring it back to his place...I will talk to

 

Bob today about his requirements...no promises no guarantees but we are still in

 

the ballpk...tsingtao, kip

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We have a taped copy of the movie and really enjoy the cars and the

 

road action. Can't say anything else positive about the movie. I

 

saw one of the Chevys used in the movie at this year's Springfield

 

Route 66 Festival. It's still in grey primer with lots of

 

fibreglass components. The owner found the car in the "Southwest"

 

as I recall and pointed out the camera brackets that are still

 

mounted to the frame in the rear of the car. He fired up the engine

 

for us (upgraded - not the original) and it's very healthy.

 

 

 

I owned two '55's and a '56 in my younger days and am still drawn to

 

these fascinating "shoeboxes." Ahhhhhh, ain't youth

 

grand?.....Bliss

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Rudyard Welborn"

 

<r.Welborn@w...> wrote:

 

> I actually bought the movie (which I lent to Ron and Emily so they

 

could

 

> "enjoy" it)...and I have to concur completely with Ron's

 

assessment;

 

> furthermore, what 66 that is in the movie is overshadowed by the

 

acting of

 

> people like James Taylor and Dennis Wilson who--thankfully for

 

them--did not

 

> quit their day jobs (I give Warren Oates credit for trying)! just

 

puttin my

 

> two cents out there and respectin' opinions other than my own!

 

Tsingtao,

 

> Kip----- Original Message -----

 

> From: "rwarn17588" <rwarn17588@y...>

 

> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 1:27 PM

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: La Cita in Tucumcari to close - now

 

gas prices,

 

> & Dix...

 

>

 

>

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > I cannot, in good conscience, recommend "Two Lane Blacktop."

 

It's a

 

> > terrible movie, with no discernable script whatsoever. I know

 

some

 

> > folks compare it to "Easy Rider," but "Two Lane Blacktop" is so

 

> > disjointed and meaningless that "Easy Rider" seems like "Citizen

 

> > Kane" in comparison.

 

> >

 

> > Ron Warnick

 

> > Tulsa, OK

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> > > There is, however, another "road" picture that is

 

> > > not only a cult film, but is, I think, right up there

 

> > > with Thunder Road - that is "Two Lane Blacktop", which

 

> > > starred James Taylor (in his only film) as the driver

 

> > > of a souped up 1955 Chevy, and his mechanic Denis

 

> > > Wilson of the Beach Boys, driving cross-country in the

 

> > > 1950's challenging all comers at drag racing.

 

> > > Interestingly, in this film the charecters had no

 

> > > names, except for Warren Oates whose name is given

 

> > > simply as G. T. O. While not an outstanding film,

 

> > > acting wise, it did convey the rootlessness of a lot

 

> > > of young people in that era, much as does Kerouacs "On

 

> > > The Road" - indeed "Two Lane Blacktop" could almost be

 

> > > taken as a film from "On The Road".

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

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Seems as if this did not get out to all of you so I will resend it again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

 

 

Executive Director & Chairman of the Board

 

 

 

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P O Box 290066

 

 

 

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From: Jim Conkle [mailto:jim@cart66pf.org]

 

Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 7:53 AM

 

To: Route66@Yahoogroups. Com (route66@yahoogroups.com);

 

AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups. Com (AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com)

 

Cc: Melissa O'Brien (melissa_obrien@hilton.com); Tori Walsh

 

(Tori_Walsh@hilton.com); 'BAKA, JEREMY'; Bob Lile

 

(); Brad Nickson (brad@thenicksons.net); David

 

Knudson (); Dean Walker (heritagectr@4state.com);

 

Delbert & Ruth Trew (barbwiremuseum@centramedia.net); Don Holland

 

(); Glen Duncan (gduncan@earthlink.net); Jeff Myers

 

(); Jim Ross (pathfinder66@earthlink.net); Johnny

 

Miller (); Kaisa Barthuli (kaisa_barthuli@nps.gov);

 

Kathie Reece-McNeill (KReece1@msn.com); Kathy Anderson

 

(); Kathy Miller (k-miller@govst.edu); Laura Stevens

 

(); Marian Clark (mclark66@sbcglobal.net); Laurel Kane

 

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Subject: Smithsonian

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good Morning to you all,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yesterday was the last day to vote for the Preservation Award on the

 

Smithsonian web site. For those of you that voted everyday, a few times or

 

even just once over the two months the voting was open, Hampton and I thank

 

you. It was an honor to be one of the three finalists and to win will be an

 

even greater pleasure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In just a few short years many great things have happened to Route 66 and

 

one of the major ones was Hampton’s getting involved in preservation,

 

restoration and signage of our beloved road. For all of you that were so

 

very helpful in your support and involvement with us a special THANKS to

 

you, you all know who you are.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We will be going back to DC a few times again next year to lobby for funding

 

and programs. We invite each of you to become involved with this lobbying in

 

your local and state areas as well as with us on the national level. We must

 

speak as one group with all of our needs and goals in one package. We will

 

succeed working together rather then fail separately. When we speak as ONE

 

we will get the attention of those we seek to support us. So please join us

 

in our lobbying efforts by adding your voice to your state associations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Take care and see you on the road.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

 

 

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At this point, arrangements have been made by Bob Mullen, owner of Bob's

 

Gasoline Alley, and Lynn Rowe, the owner of the KoKo Motel sign, to meet Mon.

 

morning so that Bob can pick up the sign and take it to his safe haven just West

 

of Cuba...apparently there are a couple of broken pieces of neon but according

 

to Lynn most of the neon remains intact and the sign is in good shape...I won't

 

be breathin' easy till the job is done but I did crack a smile after hearing

 

this...will let you know more as this story develops, but if there were more

 

people like Lynn and Bob, preservation efforts would be a helluva lot

 

easier!...Tsingtao, Kip

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P O Box 290066

 

 

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

 

 

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760 868 3320

 

 

 

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HYPERLINK "mailto:"jim@cart66pf.org

 

 

 

www.cart66pf.org

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 2:26 PM

 

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Subject: Kira's question

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Kira,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Route 40 is called the National Road, Lincoln Hwy is the ‘Father Road’ and

 

Route 66 is the ‘Mother Road’. Of course they are all ‘Blue Roads’ too.

 

There are web sites devoted to each of them. In what area do you live? There

 

could be a road group in your area.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Take care and see you on the road.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

 

 

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In a message dated 12/17/03 12:42:22 AM, jabremer66@aol.com writes:

 

 

 

<< And if anyone ever travels that road, be sure to post a report and

 

 

 

photos! LOL>>

 

 

 

Dave here, (referring to the new Kabul-Kandahar road improvement)

 

This is not a farfetched idea at all, if anyone is in contact with

 

someone serving in the Afghan theater it should be doable unless

 

there are security issues, meanwhile you might catch a glimpse

 

of it on the TV news from time to time.

 

 

 

Here in WA the army runs convoys of several dozen humvees

 

and assorted trucks along I-5 and I-90 from Fort Lewis

 

S of Tacoma over to the Yakima Firing Range in eastern WA.

 

They travel in the outside lane slightly below the speed limit.

 

The civilians mostly drive slightly above the speed limit of course.

 

 

 

My dad told me about army convoy protocol in WWII in Europe where

 

he was an infantryman helping mop up after The Battle of the Bulge.

 

Unlike a train where each car in succession starts to move as the

 

slack is taken up each truck in the convoy moved at the same time

 

on a hand signal from the head of the column, a circular motion

 

indicating start your engine and I think maybe a swinging motion

 

to indicate departure. (If anyone knows for sure please reply)

 

 

 

Another story of that time and place is that of the Red Ball Express,

 

so nicknamed because the route was marked like the early auto trails.

 

It served the fronts pushing back the Germans with a steady stream of

 

2 1/2 ton supply trucks. The route was mostly one-way, some of the

 

roads leading to the fronts and others returning to the supply depots.

 

Some of it was on narrow country lanes and through medieval villages.

 

Until the one-way system was implemented there was a great deal of

 

congestion and confusion. Also there were MPs posted to direct traffic

 

through the critical intersections.

 

 

 

Many of the Red Ball trucks were driven by black soldiers serving in

 

segregated units and they played a crucial role in the war effort.

 

One of the famous generals, it might have been Omar Bradley

 

or Ike Eisenhower, said the 2 1/2 ton supply truck won the war.

 

 

 

The Red Ball roads are American Roads and if I ever get to France and

 

Belgium I intend to take a Red Ball Express tour. It brings a tear,

 

thinking of the efforts and sacrifices that so many made. My dad

 

spent the winter of '44-'45 in France sleeping on the ground and

 

after discharge refused to go camping until the late 50s, who

 

could blame him. He saw frozen corpses piled up like cordwood,

 

more return freight for the Red Ball Express probably. He also

 

had a lifelong habit of crushing steel cans for the trash, army

 

style, nowdays I too recycle cans and I have picked up his habit

 

that I used to laugh at and make fun of when I was a kid.

 

 

 

Definitely not LOL (but maybe a little bittersweet smile) Dave

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In a message dated 12/17/03 11:50:03 AM, jabremer66@aol.com writes:

 

 

 

<< Once

 

 

 

you establish the connection to the Internet, you can "minimize" the

 

 

 

AOL window, then open Internet and Explorer and surf the Internet.

 

 

 

>>

 

 

 

Gee, too bad I threw both of those in the trash the other night in

 

an attempt to gain more memory, at least it gives you

 

another reason for laughing out loud, Dave

 

 

 

PS the moral is be real careful when you reprogram at 4 AM,

 

I don't suppose you can download those somewhere...

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, drivewdave@a... wrote:

 

> Jennifer, Slim, posting the Lincoln Highway Day card is a moot

 

> point since I don't have the scanner up and running yet and it's

 

> been a year and a half since it was given to me.

 

>

 

> This by way to show my lack of interest in programming:

 

>

 

> My lame AOL browser window has been nonfunctional for

 

> months now leaving me only e-mail, yesterday I finally

 

> got fed up and halfway fixed it after three calls to tech support.

 

> The third call resulted in the suggesting that I dump the entire

 

> AOL program and reload it again, the threat of doing this seems

 

> to coincide with its mysterious return to sluggish functioning.

 

> The first call had me increase virtual memory and the second

 

> had me trash a bunch of preferences and at first neither made

 

> any difference but apparently something changed overnight.

 

 

 

 

 

If you can at least log onto the Internet using AOL (establish a

 

connection to the Internet), you don't have to browse the Internet

 

with the AOL browser, you can use Internet Explorer or Netscape. Once

 

you establish the connection to the Internet, you can "minimize" the

 

AOL window, then open Internet and Explorer and surf the Internet.

 

 

 

Hope that helps.

 

 

 

Jennifer

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Guest Larry Kinsey

Below is the link to get IE from Microsoft

 

 

 

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...-5e5d-48f5-b02b

 

-20b602228de6&displaylang=en

 

 

 

Larry Kinsey

 

 

 

At 07:28 AM 12/17/2003 -0500, you wrote:

 

 

 

>In a message dated 12/17/03 11:50:03 AM, jabremer66@aol.com writes:

 

>

 

><< Once

 

>

 

>you establish the connection to the Internet, you can "minimize" the

 

>

 

>AOL window, then open Internet and Explorer and surf the Internet.

 

>

 

> >>

 

>

 

>Gee, too bad I threw both of those in the trash the other night in

 

>an attempt to gain more memory, at least it gives you

 

>another reason for laughing out loud, Dave

 

>

 

>PS the moral is be real careful when you reprogram at 4 AM,

 

>I don't suppose you can download those somewhere...

 

>

 

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