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More??? I am seeing nothing from the 66 egroup (and I dont think those in

 

the St. Louis area are either)-I tried posting something a couple of days

 

ago and it didn't get posted...it is definitely asleep; someone needs to

 

wake it up...Tsingtao, Kip

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: "jim conkle" <jim@cart66pf.org>

 

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:34 PM

 

Subject: RE: OT - Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Test

 

 

 

 

 

> Scott,

 

>

 

> It seems more folks were hit with that virus then first thought. I know

 

that

 

> three of the four machines here at my house were hit. It took me all day

 

> Tuesday to get it out of them. So it looks by the lack of volume on the

 

> e-groups that some of our friends might have it too.

 

>

 

> At this time I am seeing more on the American Roads group then the Route

 

66

 

> e-group.

 

>

 

> By the way I have the information on the Rendezvous which I will be

 

sending

 

> out in a day or so. Look good so far and if it all comes together as

 

planned

 

> it will be successful.

 

>

 

> James M. Conkle, Executive Director

 

> California Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

> P O Box 290066

 

> Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

> 760-868-3320

 

> 760-617-3991 cell

 

> 760-868-8614 fax

 

> jim@cart66pf.org

 

> www.cart66pf.org

 

>

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: Scott Piotrowski [mailto:rt66prods@yahoo.com]

 

> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:30 PM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: OT - Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Test

 

>

 

>

 

> Thanks to everyone who responded, including those that emailed off-

 

> list. My problem has not just been with Route 66, but also a couple

 

> of non-road groups, too. I've emailed Yahoo Support, but of course

 

> I've either received the run-around or no response.

 

>

 

> Scott Piotrowski, Director

 

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Guest Chetnichols@aol.com

Dear Friends,

 

 

 

I hope all you summer travels have been safe and fun. Remember when gas was

 

$1.25? Heck, back in my college days at was $0.19 in Kansas.

 

 

 

I want to share a beautiful DVD that I was given. It is called "Dreaming

 

Arizona". This film was shot and directed by Leo Zahn, a famous director in LA

 

who

 

came from Germany about 35 years ago.

 

I contacted Mr. Zahn after having seen the DVD, he's a very nice man. He is

 

also working on another DVD, "Dreaming Nevada".

 

 

 

Anyway, this is a beautiful film that displays all the beautiful sites of

 

Arizona. What sets it apart from other documentries is the quality of the images

 

and it has an incredible sound track of Native American Music. The sound track

 

really adds some cool punch and is one of the finest soundtracks I've heard.

 

If you are interested in getting more information about this DVD go to the

 

following internet address....

 

 

 

www.picturecompany.com

 

 

 

I highly recommend this little gem.

 

 

 

My Best,

 

 

 

Unkle Chesty

 

http://lastriderson66.itgo.com

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Guest Brian Butko

Geocaching is a sport where people with GPS locators track down sites using

 

coordinates, or do a reverse cache by listing objects which others find,

 

photograph, and submit. Think "treasure hunt using hi-tech compass."

 

 

 

Among the seemingly million cache challenges are Lincoln Highway Markers. A

 

reverse cache, this was intended to be the 1928 concrete posts but people

 

also tracked down new markers and even Abrahman Lincoln trail signs. Still,

 

many concrete post pictures can be found here:

 

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...=y&decrypt=

 

 

 

Another cache is a "Lincoln Highway Bug" (like a dog tag, here with a

 

souvenir mini-post) that travels the route by attaching to vehicles, making

 

the search much more challenging.

 

http://www.geocaching.com/track/track_detail.asp?ID=9309

 

 

 

There are caches for Route 66, Weinermobiles, and lots more road-related

 

topics - search here:

 

http://www.geocaching.com/seek

 

 

 

Any geocachers on the board?

 

 

 

Brian Butko

 

www.brianbutko.com

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Guest RWarn17588@aol.com

> Maybe everybody *else* left.....

 

>

 

 

 

Nah. Greg Laxton, listdad at the Route 66 e-group, told me he's working on it

 

through Yahoo! But it seems the list (and many others, apparently) were hit

 

hard by the Internet worm that was making the rounds this week.

 

 

 

But your point seems prescient. The number of subscribers on the Route 66

 

list has remained fairly steady -- even during the brouhaha over racism on the

 

road (which led to some interesting and well-thought-out discussions, I might

 

add), the number of subscribers dropped no more than six or seven, then quickly

 

recovered back to its 630 or so.

 

 

 

But having the whole system go down for several days, *that* might make a

 

bunch of people quit en masse. As anyone will tell you in the newspaper or

 

magazine business, nothing will cause someone to cancel their subscription

 

faster

 

than late or nonexistent delivery.

 

 

 

Not that I have a solution or anything -- I've been on several Internet

 

discussion groups, and Yahoo! is by far the best for ease of use and accessing

 

archives. So I think moving the list isn't the answer, either.

 

 

 

Ron Warnick

 

Belleville, IL

 

 

 

P.S.: Yeah, I know all this is off-topic, but I've seen a lot of current and

 

former Route 66 groupers on the American Road list. There's a lot of overlap.

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Guest Hodkin

The Annual Miss Route 66 Pageant will take place September 11th at Gil's Place

 

downtown Barstow Main Street USA (Route 66) during Barstow's Classic Car Show.

 

This is the Saturday before the San Bernardino Rendezvous. The Mini-National

 

Pageant is for ages 1-100, fun for beginner or experienced. New custom Route 66

 

crowns and sashes, trophies and embroidered jackets will be awarded to 12

 

queens. This is a fund raiser for the Barstow Route 66 Mother Road Museum.

 

Participate or watch the pageant, lunch at Gil's, check out the classic cars,

 

and visit the Route 66 Museum in the historic Harvey House (tour at 11). All

 

free to see. For entry forms or more info, www.geocites.com/imperial_image or

 

call Kris Watson 760-257-3435 or the museum.

 

 

 

Debra Hodkin

 

Route 66 Mother Road Museum

 

Historic Harvey House

 

681 N. First Ave.

 

Barstow, CA 92311

 

760-255-1890

 

Open Fri-Sun 11-4 & by appointment

 

www.barstow66museum.itgo.com

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Guest Shellee Graham

Hi folks,

 

 

 

Just wanted to let you know that I am going to teach a continuing education

 

course (on ROUTE 66) at a local university next month. For this particular

 

course, it's just a one night event. Still, I thought I'd ask advice from

 

people who have already taught courses on Route 66. This course is a start,

 

but I think it will lead to longer, more interesting classes in the future.

 

(I would like to concentrate on college courses, but I may begin to do talks

 

at elementary high schools as well.)

 

 

 

So I will appreciate any suggestions, advice, materials, etc. you may have

 

for me. Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

Shellee Graham

 

St. Louis, MO

 

 

 

P.S. For you locals, the class will be at Maryville University.

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Guest brownwho63

You go, girl! Am confident that you'll be sensational.

 

 

 

Bliss

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Shellee Graham <SHELLEE66@E...>

 

wrote:

 

> Hi folks,

 

>

 

> Just wanted to let you know that I am going to teach a continuing

 

education

 

> course (on ROUTE 66) at a local university next month. For this

 

particular

 

> course, it's just a one night event. Still, I thought I'd ask

 

advice from

 

> people who have already taught courses on Route 66. This course is

 

a start,

 

> but I think it will lead to longer, more interesting classes in the

 

future.

 

> (I would like to concentrate on college courses, but I may begin to

 

do talks

 

> at elementary high schools as well.)

 

>

 

> So I will appreciate any suggestions, advice, materials, etc. you

 

may have

 

> for me. Thanks in advance.

 

>

 

> Shellee Graham

 

> St. Louis, MO

 

>

 

> P.S. For you locals, the class will be at Maryville University.

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Guest Scott Piotrowski

I've already sent an email to Shellee direct, but there are a few

 

things that I would like to put out to the group in case anyone else

 

is instructing a short-term course (or single class) or giving

 

presentations about their favorite historic road.

 

 

 

First and foremost, have fun. Enjoy yourself. You love that topic

 

already, so make sure that enthusiasm shows. If you are not having

 

fun, neither will that guy three rows back that just worked 10 hours

 

and was expecting something else.

 

 

 

Next, talk about what you know. I once attended a Route 66

 

presentation given by two guys that traveled the entire road

 

photographing it and researching a map. (No, it was not Jim and

 

Jerry!) Their presentation in a hot, non-air-conditioned room was

 

about 45 minutes long. They spent that time saying "Why don't you

 

tell about this slide?" "Well, frankly, I don't remember where this

 

is." "Oh. I don't either. But it is pretty cool." (Of course, me

 

being the troublemaker that I am, continuously blurted out things

 

like "Oh, that's the U Drop In in Shamrock, Texas. It is currently

 

in the midst of renovations and restorations to become a Visitors

 

Information Center.")

 

 

 

Finally, admit when you DON'T know something. I have been asked

 

questions many times when I did not know the answer. I simply state

 

something like "I do not know the current status of that location,

 

but last I knew, this is what was happening there. See me after we

 

are done here, and I will try to get you the contact information for

 

Mrs. Smith. She is very active in preservation in that area."

 

 

 

Again, most of all, have fun. Spreading the word about America's two-

 

lane roads is why we are all here. Having fun with it makes the word

 

spread faster.

 

 

 

Scott Piotrowski, Director

 

66 Productions

 

www.66productions.com

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Greetings All!

 

 

 

Hooking up with folks along the road and was wondering if anyone was

 

going to be staying at the Munger Moss Motel in Lebanon, MO. on

 

September 23rd. That would be a great place for an on the road

 

rendezvous while heading to Springfield.

 

 

 

God Bless and Happy Trails.

 

 

 

the landrunner

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Guest Denny Gibson

Great news!! Sorry I missed most of the first year but I'm here to stay now.

 

In a minute, I'll tell you how I celebrated.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Pat B. [mailto:roadmaven@aol.com]

 

Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 9:12 AM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Happy Birthday!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Today, October 2, the American Road Yahoo Group is 2 years old!

 

Thanks to everyone for making this a great forum for all of us two

 

lane road dogs. We currently have a membership base of 201, and

 

hopefully we can eclipse the 300 mark by this time in 2005.

 

 

 

There has been plenty of hearty discussion during these two years

 

that have hopefully educated us all on various aspects of historic

 

highway travel, be it preservation, promotion, or just the tales of

 

those wandering the lost highways of America. We look forward to

 

hearing more in the years to come.

 

 

 

Happy trails!

 

 

 

Pat & Jennifer Bremer

 

American Road Yahoo Group Moderators

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Guest Denny Gibson

This is a pretty nice list and I found that one of the listed attractions

 

was less than 200 miles away and was having the biggest event of the year, a

 

race no less, on Saturday. Of course, I had to go. I learned in route that

 

it was this groups birthday so I celebrated with two shots of bourbon and

 

humming along to some Bluegrass.

 

 

 

Photos, etc. at:

 

www.dennygibson.com/DayTrips/Trip12

 

 

 

Thanks for the tip, Jennifer. I know I've already thanked you on another

 

list but one can never be too appreciative of moderators;-)

 

 

 

I'll also grab this chance to mention the mailing list at:

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/listmailer/?p=subscribe&id=1

 

Since the AMERICAN_ROAD group isn't restricted to any single road or region,

 

I'll probably continue to post at least a trip's completion here. But, if

 

you'd like to be notified when daily postings are complete for any multi-day

 

outings, see the "On the Road" list. Of course trips will be somewhere

 

between few and none until spring.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Jennifer [mailto:jabremer66@aol.com]

 

Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 1:52 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] From MSN: 59 Jaw-Dropping Roadside Attractions

 

 

 

 

 

For anyone interested - it covers all areas of the USA

 

 

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5771671/

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Guest Denny Gibson

Following up on another great Landrunner suggestion, I just drove US

 

80 from Phoenix to El Cajon. If there had been no time constraints, I

 

would have driven on to Balboa but when it became quite "citified", I

 

peeled off to visit friends. After a stint on Calif. 94 (a

 

wonderfully curvy surprise) my return was largely on I-8 with a

 

couple of side trips to see thing I had missed. The tale is at

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/ariz102003

 

 

 

--Denny

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Guest Chris

Even further off topic, but I was just thinkin'.

 

 

 

"Cyprus wood tanks" hmmm . . . On my Barb-que, I've used

 

smoking chips made from Jack Daniels Oak Kegs after they met

 

the chipper. A fav beverage of mine is JD and A&W, (a tall glass

 

filled with ice, the aforementioned two shots, then top with A&W

 

Rootbeer) . . . Yumsters!

 

 

 

A bit of Ronnie McCoury sounds nice too. . . Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson"

 

<denny@d...> wrote:

 

> This is a pretty nice list and I found that one of the listed

 

attractions

 

> was less than 200 miles away and was having the biggest

 

event of the year, a

 

> race no less, on Saturday. Of course, I had to go. I learned in

 

route that

 

> it was this groups birthday so I celebrated with two shots of

 

bourbon and

 

> humming along to some Bluegrass.

 

>

 

> Photos, etc. at:

 

> www.dennygibson.com/DayTrips/Trip12

 

>

 

> Thanks for the tip, Jennifer. I know I've already thanked you on

 

another

 

> list but one can never be too appreciative of moderators;-)

 

>

 

> I'll also grab this chance to mention the mailing list at:

 

> http://www.dennygibson.com/listmailer/?p=subscribe&id=1

 

> Since the AMERICAN_ROAD group isn't restricted to any single

 

road or region,

 

> I'll probably continue to post at least a trip's completion here.

 

But, if

 

> you'd like to be notified when daily postings are complete for

 

any multi-day

 

> outings, see the "On the Road" list. Of course trips will be

 

somewhere

 

> between few and none until spring.

 

>

 

> --Denny

 

>

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: Jennifer [mailto:jabremer66@a...]

 

> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 1:52 PM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] From MSN: 59 Jaw-Dropping

 

Roadside Attractions

 

>

 

>

 

> For anyone interested - it covers all areas of the USA

 

>

 

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5771671/

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Guest Jim Conkle

Being that my birthday is also October 2, although a few years older then

 

two, I am honored to share the date with an icon of America. Hopefully we

 

will celebrate many more in the future.

 

 

 

Thanks Pat and Jennifer and all American Road E-groupers. Of all the groups

 

that I belong to this is one of the best.

 

 

 

Take care and see you on the road,

 

 

 

Jim Conkle

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

 

 

Executive Director & Chairman of the Board

 

 

 

California Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

 

 

P O Box 290066

 

 

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

 

 

760 617 3991 cell

 

 

 

760 868 3320

 

 

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

 

 

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Guest Chetnichols@aol.com

Denny,

 

 

 

BE SURE to visit the little mountain town, Jerome. It's quite a hoot.....it's

 

west of Phoenix and south of Cottonwood......

 

 

 

Unkle Chesty

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Guest Denny Gibson

Earlier this week I won another half expense paid trip to Phoenix from my

 

employer. This one was even more of a surprise than the others plus I had

 

this leftover idea of visiting Tombstone and vicinity so I didn't solicit

 

ideas. I'm going to be heading to Tombstone (from Nogales) on AZ 82 shortly.

 

Some first day pics & such are at http://www.dennygibson.com/ariz112003

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Greetings All!

 

 

 

All fellow roadie's are invited to join!

 

Here is the complete info on the new Route 66 Swap Meet E-Group:

 

<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/route66swapmeet>

 

 

 

This open forum is designed for those folks who are members of

 

other "roadie" and "travel" related E-Groups, where posting "for

 

sale" ads and "wanted" ads would be off topic in discussion groups.

 

 

 

The Route 66 Swap Meet group does allow the posting of want ads, for

 

sale ads, trade ads, and other related type personal ads. These ad

 

posts MUST be for personal items that you are seeking, or that you

 

are selling. If you are a retail or wholesale business, please do not

 

post ads of those natures.

 

 

 

Items to be posted MUST be legal to buy and sell on the open market

 

and SHALL NOT contain ANY sexually related matter. This shall also

 

include any ads posted for dating services site links, and other

 

harmful content that contains information relating in a sexual nature.

 

All such posts will be immediately deleted from the group message

 

posts archives and the author shall be removed from the group without

 

notice.

 

 

 

The Route 66 Swap Meet assumes NO RESPONSIBILTY for any and all

 

personal transactions made between any and all of the group members.

 

 

 

The Route 66 Swap Meet EXPECTS that all ads and transactions are met

 

with honesty and integrity from EVERY member.

 

 

 

So, post your ads and enjoy what you may find! Have Fun!

 

 

 

Thank you for your time.

 

 

 

God Bless.

 

 

 

Ken

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One old-time diner, and make that to go

 

 

 

11/15/03

 

 

 

Carl Matzelle

 

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

 

 

 

 

Wellington- A small group of Wellington residents said goodbye this

 

week to an old friend that was leaving town for good.

 

 

 

The sun's bright rays kept the autumn chill at bay as they stood at

 

Depot Street and West Herrick Avenue embracing, laughing and sharing

 

memories of a diner that has been a landmark in the village since

 

1927.

 

 

 

Over the years, the diner's name has changed: Hazel's in the 1940s.

 

Carl's in the 1950s. Most recently, it was Cecil's Trackside Diner,

 

named after the most recent operator's late grandfather, an engineer

 

for the New York Central Railroad.

 

 

 

"I'm very sad to see it go," said Jeanice Richmond-Johnson, 72, who

 

washed dishes at Hazel's Diner, which she said was the place to be

 

back then. "People came to gossip, make friends, as well as to sober

 

up after a night on the town."

 

 

 

Harold Wiles, 75, a lifelong Wellington resident, remembers people

 

lining up outside Hazel's right after the end of World War II.

 

 

 

"Railroad workers, engineers, conductors . . . everybody wanted to

 

eat there," said Wiles.

 

 

 

His parents, Carl and Icy, also frequented the diner.

 

 

 

The diner was dismantled last weekend, loaded on a flatbed truck on

 

Monday and transported to Gilbertsville, N.Y., where a new owner,

 

Mike Engle, 30, plans to restore and reopen it.

 

 

 

The diner and property were owned by Andrew Bendik and Tim Graham,

 

who also have the Party Center next door.

 

 

 

Sandra Aden, 44, who had operated the 21-seat diner since 2000, said

 

it was too small. A bigger version of Cecil's will be built on the

 

same spot next spring, combining Cecil's and the Party Center under

 

one roof. Aden will operate the new diner.

 

 

 

Still, Aden was sad to see the diner go.

 

 

 

Engle, 30, says he got an appreciation for the old diners as he and

 

his friends grew tired of hanging out at the local Denny's and tried

 

the Miss Johnstown Diner in Johnstown, N.Y., for a change of pace.

 

 

 

"I knew immediately that this was unique, and I was hooked for

 

good."

 

 

 

Engle, a volunteer with the American Diner Museum of Providence,

 

R.I., and Dan Zilka, the museum's director, were in town to help

 

with the move.

 

 

 

Founded in 1996, the museum has focused on preserving the cultural

 

and historical significance of the American diner. A crucial part of

 

the museum's mission is to save vintage diners from extinction.

 

 

 

The Wellington diner was manufactured by Goodell Hardware of Silver

 

Creek, N.Y., and is the only one of its style that still exists in

 

the country.

 

 

 

The original 30-by-10-foot, pre-fab diner - called a dining car -

 

featured a solid Philippine mahogany interior, with 12 stools along

 

its length, with one double and one single nook booth. Total seating

 

capacity is 18 to 21 people.

 

 

 

"But folks were always willing to share their space when it got

 

crowded," said Aden.

 

 

 

Engle said it would cost him between $8,000 and $10,000 to move the

 

diner.

 

 

 

"Restoring it with original parts won't be cheap, either, but I'm

 

taking it one step at a time," said Engle.

 

 

 

Engle said the largest order for dining cars anywhere in the country

 

came from Cleveland in 1926, when the Ward & Dickinson Co. of Silver

 

Creek, N.Y., built and delivered 30 of them.

 

 

 

Zilka, 47, a Canton native who has a degree in historic architecture

 

and preservation, said that at the height of popularity in the

 

1950s, there were 5,000 to 6,000 diners across the United

 

States. "Today, less than half of them still exist."

 

 

 

He said that about 20 diners remain in Ohio, and eight of them are

 

in the Cleveland area.

 

 

 

"The reality of a diner isn't just to sit and eat," said

 

Zilka. "It's also the culture and intimate atmosphere - the

 

friendliness that surrounds the customers."

 

 

 

Visit the museum's Web site at: www.americandinermuseum.org

 

 

 

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:

 

 

 

cmatzelle@p..., 216-999-4744

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

© 2003 The Plain Dealer. Used with permission.

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Guest rwarn17588

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, kiragaleRJP@a... wrote:

 

> I don't understand why Route 40 is not called the Mother Road.

 

Please explain.

 

> Kira Gale

 

>

 

 

 

The "Mother Road" description of Route 66 came from John Steinbeck's

 

novel, "The Grapes of Wrath." Plus, Michael Wallis' later

 

book, "Route 66: The Mother Road," was a best-seller. The name

 

stuck, for obvious reasons.

 

 

 

Ron Warnick

 

Tulsa, OK

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Guest Larry Kinsey

Mike,

 

 

 

I received my copy today here in Kansas City.

 

 

 

Larry

 

 

 

 

 

At 04:59 PM 11/13/2003 -0700, you wrote:

 

>Speaking of American Road and "new", got the latest issue today. It just

 

>keeps getting better and better. Even before I have a chance to open it

 

>that smell of printer's ink hits my nose. That, to me, is the smell of

 

>quality! Keep it up, Thomas, Rebecca, Jim, and everyone else who contributes.

 

>

 

>Mike

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

hola:

 

 

 

THis is what I can tell you...I called the guy who owns Bob's Gasoline Alley

 

in Cuba may be a possibility...he cannnot do anything till next week, but if

 

they will hold it till then he may be able to bring the sign back to his

 

place where it would be displayed...I imagine he would want to own it, but

 

it would be someplace where it could be viewed by the 66 folks, and he's a

 

66er...Kenny Storie is going to check with a friend of his to see if he can

 

move/store it till we can find a place for it...I called Rich Henry; he'd be

 

glad to take it but can't move it...I couldnt get ahold of the guy at

 

Eislers...I left a message with the guy with the sign this pm as to our

 

status and will call him back in the am...if he can hold it for a few days

 

we might be able to pull this off...Tsingtao, Kip

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: "Emily Priddy" <sundayjohn66@mac.com>

 

To: "Rudyard Welborn" <r.welborn@worldnet.att.net>

 

Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:29 AM

 

Subject: Re: KoKo motel signs

 

 

 

 

 

> Buy the sign now, worry about raising funds to pick up the slack later.

 

> Once we own it -- and let's get documentation saying we own it -- this

 

> guy can't throw it away, regardless of the time frame he has given us.

 

> Which is not to say we shouldn't pick it up as quickly as possible, but

 

> if I park my car in front of your house, the worst you can do is call a

 

> towing company and have them charge me a storage fee; you can't crush

 

> my car. One problem at a time, and the first problem is acquiring the

 

> sign.

 

>

 

> I don't have any contacts I can think of on the western end of the

 

> state. If need be, could we rent a U-store shed in Joplin and stash the

 

> sign there until we find it a permanent home? It might cost us 50 or 60

 

> bucks a month, but I think we could find something in fairly short

 

> order. Hell, some enterprising soul might loan us the space if we

 

> explained what we needed it for and offered to give him some good P.R.

 

> in exchange.

 

>

 

> Emily

 

>

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Guest Bob Reynolds

I'm sure most all of the Mother Roaders out there are quite

 

familiar with a sight just outside Waynesville, Mo. A rock

 

outcropping that has been spray painted to look like a giant frog.

 

<Photos/BabyBoomerBob/Waynesville.jpg> While this is likely the

 

best known of what I call road monsters, there have been at least

 

two more I know of.

 

 

 

Back in 1979 when Susan and I were living in south

 

Knoxiousville, there was a vacant lot off Chapman Highway (US 441).

 

The land was slated to be the site of a new Wal-Mart and bulldozers

 

began clearing and leveling the land. In their actions, they

 

uncovered a bunch of rocks that some wag converted into a big turtle

 

crawling out of the ground. Given the obviously temporary nature of

 

the beast, we snapped a couple of pictures. <Turtle-1 & 2.jpg>

 

That's me riding the turtle in the second picture.

 

 

 

Then, there's the Mascot Monster. It's located between 11E and

 

11W in eastern Knox County near the little town of Mascot. <Mascot01

 

& 02.jpg> It looks like some sort of lizard head sticking out of

 

the side of a hill just about at road level. I went back to see the

 

beast a few months ago and, while the paint had faded a bit, it was

 

still as startling as it was in 1986 when the pictures were made.

 

 

 

Now, having said all this, I wish to state that I understand

 

there's bound to be some disagreement between those who call these

 

monsters folk art and those who consider them vandalism. I can see

 

both sides of the issue. But I did find them interesting and wanted

 

to share my pictures.

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In a message dated 10/31/04 8:42:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

 

hester_nec@yahoo.com writes:

 

Especially in the middle of

 

the night running hard and fast - I'll leave it up to

 

your imaginations what we were doing.

 

Running moonshine? The reason I say that is because of one of the best road

 

songs of the 20th Century, "Ballad of Thunder Road." It was a 1962 hit for

 

Robert Mitchum who also starred in the movie by the same title.

 

 

 

The song traces Mitchum's flight from Harlan, over Cumberland Gap, through

 

Maynardville and Knoxville, and finally out Kingston Pike where he "left the

 

road at 90, that's all there is to say."

 

 

 

Tom Hoffman

 

Pearisburg VA

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