Guest Mike Austing Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Alex, you forgot the most important drug smuggling road in Texas, State Route 59! Lots n lots of dope passes over it! Mike Austing -------Original Message------- From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:02:24 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Progress? Thanks Pat, I sort of thought it was - this is "progress" shoved down peoples throat. There already interstates between Indianapolis and Memphis - this is a sop to those on the east side who want an interstate down thru west Tennessee. It will save drivers, perhaps, a half hour. I know - I've driven most of it. I can run I-57 (picking it up east of Decatur using U S 36 east to get to it), down thru southern IL into MO and I-55 to West Memphis (or as Memphians put it - left Memphis!!) to my daughters in Memphis in 7 hours, no sweat. (An alternate is I-155 off 55 over to Dyersburg and south on 51 to Memphis. I can run the same using U S 51 in about 7? hours. U S 51 in Tennessee is now 4 lane limited access from just west of Fulton, KY all the way into Memphis. So is an extension of 69 really needed. I don't think so. You are in Michigan - you have a desire to visit Mexico. Ok, 69 to Indy, 70 to Ok City and 35 south to Neuevo Laredo. That's it. Or you can take 69 to Indy, 70 over to 57 to 55 to 40 Little Rock, then 30 to Dallas and 35 to Mexico. You can also go thru St. Louis. How many Interstates to the Illegals and drug smugglers (ooopppps, that's not "politically correct") need, for crying out loud. My soap box for the day. Hudsonly, Alex B --- roadmaven <roadmaven@aol.com> wrote: > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@y..., Alex Burr > <hesternec@y...> wrote: > > Hmmm - wonder if that's part of that scheme > to > > run an interstate down the eastern side of > the > > Mississippi River thru the NW corner of > Memphis, > > burying part of U S 51 - and by-passing the > rest. > > > > The plan is that such an interstate would > > either cut thru the NW corner of Memphis and > > connect with 40 in downtown Memphis, or swing > a > > bit east and connect with I-40 east of > Memphis. > > Alex, > This is indeed the same interstate. I found a > nice article with > some maps of the future route here: > http://www.courier- > journal.com/localnews/2001/11/11/ke111101s102660.htm > > Regards, > > Pat in Speedway > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box > 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email > to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ===== "We has met the enemy, and he is us" - Pogo Possum __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/jd3IAA/bgxwlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Ross Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Pat & Alex, Thanks for your insightful comments on the politics of roadbuilding. And you are right, when it comes to highway heritage, the DOTs can be our best friends or our worst enemies. Another reason politicians like to build roads is that new roads bring added commerce, and that commerce increases the tax base. Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WALTER HACKNEY Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 I shot some photos of neon signs on West Colfax (Rt. 40) in Denver the other night, and have posted them to my webshots album: http://community.webshots.com/user/route40roadtrip Please let me know if the link doesn't work - more to follow I hope. Walt Hackney Gyrfal@Juno.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Wouldn't you know it? Half an hour after I made my last post I thought of some other places on US 11 to check out:) There's a new country music museum in Bristol which I hope to check out some time. 1927 saw a major event in the early days of country recording, a field recording session conducted by Victor Records in Bristol. This session saw the first recordings of Jimmie Rodgers and the Carter Family. Bristol may be stretching it with the claim of "The Birthplace of Country Music", but it was an important early step. The next few places are along 11E. 11W is shorter, but doesn't have as much to check out. A brief detour (19E from Bluff City or 321 from Johnson City) brings you to Elizabethton and the Doe River covered bridge. Simply, the nicest covered bridge in the state. Also there is "Sycamore Shoals", site of Fort Watauga, the first settlement in Tennessee. Below Johnson City is Jonesborough, the oldest town in Tennessee. I've only been there once and can't remember much specific about it, but the architecture is interesting. If you continue down Jonesborough's main street you will be on an old alignment of 11E through Telford, Limestone, and Chucky. Davy Crockett Birthplace State Park is on this road as well. And once you get to Knoxville, you'll be traveling on Kingston Pike. Somewhere along this road in the neighborhood of Bearden is the spot where, in the words of the classic song... He left the road at 90, that's all there is to say. The devil got the moon pies and the mountain boy that day. Hmmmmm. That doesn't sound quite right, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chetnichols@aol.com Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Helen, I am a Jayhawk...blue and blue.....K-State? Well, we have never been fans of K-State. We "Hawks" consider K-State a Junior College compared to KU. That was....of course....until KSU started to whoop our butts at football....year after, relentless, year. Of course, we reign at "hoops" and our football program is "finally" getting better. So, I'm going to take a more loving approach here, since Route 66 does go through Kansas, where I spent 10 wonderful years in Lawrence and Tonganoxie. I'm going to break through the walls of alumni-ism and cast my vote for the young babes who are casting their votes for each other and hope that their marriage lasts as long as mine has.....which has been way to-o-o-o long. But considering the fact that my wife has been going through menapause for the last 15 years....she don't pay me no mind anymore.....I guess it's a good thing. I'll know she is through it when I hear those sweet words, "Honey, you didn't put the seat down!" Then, I'll know she's ready to go dancing and drink Margaritas, again. I can promise you that I'll say, "Make mine a double...." Still, I'd like to take this opportunity to lobby for vote on an arranged event to settle the question "who is better"...KU or KSU? ..... Let's say a soocer game in January in a driving blizzard wearing only nylon Speedo swimming trunks. Where can we vote for that? My Best to the pending newlyweds....and to all the in-laws...no matter where they went to school.... Unkle Chesty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chetnichols@aol.com Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Helen, Oh goody, I didn't realize that I could vote more than once! (Is that okay to say on the internet?) This is something we have perfected here in Chicago.....where even "dead people" vote for the mayor multiple times. Good news! "Our" favorite couple is in the lead.......! Unkle Chesty http://www.mp3.com/chetnichols P.S. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a wiseguy AND comedian....thanks to my KU education..... In a message dated 11/12/03 3:41:53 PM, Bakerhab@aol.com writes: > www.kstatecollegian.com > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chetnichols@aol.com Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Helen, California has the "best kind of snow"! You drive to it! Ooops, gotta go, Jeb Bush on the other line...wants to learn how to do this "mulitple vote 'thang".....it's sorta like doing the Hocky Pocky, ya know? Unkle Chesty http://LastRidersOn66.itgo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jenniferrt66 Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <thelandrunner@y...> wrote: > Hi Jen! > > Mighty fine photos! Looks like the winds were really blowin' there. > The flags looks super too. You just talked Melissa into going there! > Sweet deal! > Thank You. > > Ken Hi Ken, Thanks! It was VERY cold and windy, so wew were freezing as we took our photos, but the efforts were worth it! It was a bit warmer the next morning, so that was much more tolerable. I'm glad you and Melissa (and the kids too?) will go there sometime. The owner, Ivan John, does a superb job keeping the property in tip- top shape - you won't be disappointed! Jennifer http://www.roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butko, Brian A. Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 When I visited 10 years ago, it became my favorite roadside attraction. I hoped if we ever had kids to take em there. We did just that this past summer with three; they loved it too, both the rooms and playing with other kids in the sunken playground. And it reaffirmed my feelings of it being the #1 attraction. We also did some filming for a PBS special that will air next summer that I hope will drive even more customers Ivan's way. Your pictures are fabulous - what kind of camera? Digital? Brian Butko > Hi Jen! > > Mighty fine photos! Looks like the winds were really blowin' there. > The flags looks super too. You just talked Melissa into going there! > Sweet deal! > Thank You. > > Ken Hi Ken, Thanks! It was VERY cold and windy, so wew were freezing as we took our photos, but the efforts were worth it! It was a bit warmer the next morning, so that was much more tolerable. I'm glad you and Melissa (and the kids too?) will go there sometime. The owner, Ivan John, does a superb job keeping the property in tip- top shape - you won't be disappointed! Jennifer http://www.roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob Carnachan Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Alex, I've driven US 11 from its southern terminus in New Orleans north to Knoxville and then also in various parts of its northern route, including from Winchester, VA south to Bristol, TN. I did the latter segment in spring of 2000. Very enjoyable trip. Driving through the hearts of the small towns in the Shenandoah Valley is great -- you realize how much you miss on the interstate. Rob Carnachan >From: "Alex Burr" <hester_nec@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com >To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] On the road again >Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:00:22 -0000 > _________________________________________________________________ Is your computer infected with a virus? Find out with a FREE computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jenniferrt66 Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Butko, Brian A." <babutko@h...> wrote: > When I visited 10 years ago, it became my favorite roadside attraction. I > hoped if we ever had kids to take em there. We did just that this past > summer with three; they loved it too, both the rooms and playing with other > kids in the sunken playground. And it reaffirmed my feelings of it being the > #1 attraction. We also did some filming for a PBS special that will air next > summer that I hope will drive even more customers Ivan's way. > > Your pictures are fabulous - what kind of camera? Digital? > > Brian Butko Thank you for the compliments, Brian! Yes, the pictures were taken with my digital camera - a Sony Mavica CD500. I took these at 3.14 megapixels and resized them down for web viewing. Coincidentally, when we were talking to Ivan, he mentioned a filming crew being there for PBS and we were very curious about it, wanting to know the details, so we wouldn't miss it when it airs! I definitely hope your show drives more customers there. Ivan does a great job and he has such a wonderful attitude about respecting and preserving historic properties. Jennifer http://www.roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bakerhab2003 Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Hi y'all, Here's a way that we can all help out a great Route 66 friend, Hank Hallmark. Please read his message below and then go vote as often as you have email addresses to do so. I've pumped in 4 votes so far myself! Thanks, Helen Baker Hank Hallmark Wrightwood, Ca Dear friends, Kris and I are writing to ask a big favor of all of you. Our son David and his fiance Kirby--both in elementary education and both students at Kansas State University--are finalists to win a free wedding through the Kansas State Collegian and several businesses throughout Manhattan, KS. The winning couple will receive free; a wedding dress, 3 bridesmaid dresses, 4 tuxes, flowers for the wedding party, 100 invitations, and coiffures. Traditionally the bride's parents pay for the wedding but unfortunately, both Kirby's parents are deceased. It would mean a lot to them if they were selected to receive this gift. There are four finalists! David and Kirby may win if enough of our/their friends vote for them. To vote you need to go to.... www.kstatecollegian.com [or click on the link!] There will be an icon in the upper right-hand of your screen which says "Vote for your favorite couple". Click on that icon and vote for Burke- Richard. BTW, there are photos of the respective couples--David and Kirby [burke-Richard] are the first couple on the left. You can vote as many times as you would like as long as it is on different computers. A single computer can be voted only once.[unless you have separate (logins) email addresses???] PLEASE take the time to do this for us. It would really help them out financially. If you are inclined, would you please send this on to your friends/family. Thank you. Hank & Kris Hallmark Wrightwood, Ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Kinsey Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Helen, Considering I attended KSU, my vote has been cast. Larry At 09:31 PM 11/12/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Hi y'all, > >Here's a way that we can all help out a great Route 66 friend, Hank >Hallmark. Please read his message below and then go vote as often as >you have email addresses to do so. I've pumped in 4 votes so far >myself! > >Thanks, Helen Baker > >Hank Hallmark >Wrightwood, Ca >Dear friends, >Kris and I are writing to ask a big favor of all of you. Our son >David and >his fiance Kirby--both in elementary education and both students at >Kansas State >University--are finalists to win a free wedding through the Kansas >State >Collegian and several businesses throughout Manhattan, KS. > >The winning couple will receive free; a wedding dress, 3 bridesmaid >dresses, >4 tuxes, flowers for the wedding party, 100 invitations, and >coiffures. > >Traditionally the bride's parents pay for the wedding but >unfortunately, both >Kirby's parents are deceased. It would mean a lot to them if they >were >selected to receive this gift. > >There are four finalists! David and Kirby may win if enough of >our/their >friends vote for them. > >To vote you need to go to.... www.kstatecollegian.com [or click on >the link!] > >There will be an icon in the upper right-hand of your screen which >says "Vote >for your favorite couple". Click on that icon and vote for Burke- >Richard. >BTW, there are photos of the respective couples--David and Kirby >[burke-Richard] >are the first couple on the left. > >You can vote as many times as you would like as long as it is on >different >computers. A single computer can be voted only once.[unless you have >separate >(logins) email addresses???] > >PLEASE take the time to do this for us. It would really help them out >financially. >If you are inclined, would you please send this on to your >friends/family. >Thank you. >Hank & Kris Hallmark >Wrightwood, Ca > > > > > >Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > >To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 >WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! >Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 >SUBSCRIPTION RATES: >1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 >(save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) >2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 >(save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > >For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > >To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: >AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > >To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: >AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bakerhab2003 Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Hey wise guys are the best kind. Yes, vote like you're in Chicago, the early and often part, that is. Use every ID that you can and tell your friends to vote too. I forwarded your earlier message to Hank and told him that the soccor game was all his, since I moved to California from Wisconsin, I don't do snow. Helen --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Chetnichols@a... wrote: > Helen, > > Oh goody, I didn't realize that I could vote more than once! (Is that okay to > say on the internet?) This is something we have perfected here in > Chicago.....where even "dead people" vote for the mayor > multiple times. > > Good news! "Our" favorite couple is in the lead.......! > > Unkle Chesty > http://www.mp3.com/chetnichols > > P.S. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a wiseguy AND comedian....thanks to my KU > education..... > > > > In a message dated 11/12/03 3:41:53 PM, Bakerhab@a... writes: > > > > www.kstatecollegian.com > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bakerhab@aol.com Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 We took our monthly road trip to the Goffs Schoolhouse last weekend for the open house event. We stopped by the Victorville Route 66 Museum and talked to Bill Cadenhead for a while and picked up the Fall 2003 issue of Route 66 magazine which has a nice four page spread on the Goffs Schoolhouse Museum and Cultural Center written by Bob Moore. Bob had stopped by our open house in May on his way back from the Fun Run in Kingman. Naturally the article was thought to be very cool by all of us Goffite's. Took the superslab to Ludlow, where we stopped for a DQ, it's a tradition. Then jumped onto 66 for the rest of the trip into Goffs. Amboy doesn't look any different. I didn't see any SOLD sign posted. By the way, the Amboy post office is still in operation, I thought they had closed it around the time that they closed the Essex P.O. I'll keep my eye on that for you Ken. No one in the desert knows any more about the sale than we've read here. By the time we got to Danby, it was dark. You couldn't see a light anywhere in town. I don't know if it's inhabited, although, we do know a young couple, James & Brandy Howard, (he's the grandson of Judge Johnny Neilson, of Route 66 speedtrap fame, and the son of Mary & Jack Howard, Mary was the last teacher at the Essex school (her mother, the judge's wife, was the first) and Jack was the last postmaster at the Essex post office) who are restoring a house in Danby. I commented to my husband that I'd have to have some mighty big dogs, if I lived there. The town of Danby is right on Route 66, but the Danby siding is about two miles south of there, down a dirt road, at the BNSF tracks. Naturally we had to take a look at the abandoned siding. As we were crossing the very rough grade crossing our headlights illuminated a tumbledown shack and nothing else. Suddenly out of the dark came two very large dogs. As our eyeballs returned to normal size we were able to see the lights of a house further back from the tracks. We'd finally encountered civilization, albeit desert style. We turned west and drove a little ways up the track so that my husband could make a nature call. I asked, what about the dogs? He said that we'd left them at least a mile back, but he did turn the truck around so that it faced down the road and he left the lights on just in case. You guessed it, within a very short time of our stopping I looked up to see two wagging tongues come into view. My husband probably completed a record short nature call, at least he said he was done as he jumped into the drivers seat. The rest of our trip into Goffs was without incident. We did notice that someone had put a sign up near the gas station at Fenner protesting the outrageous price of gas. I think they're selling regular for $3.29 a gallon. What do you bet that the sign maker had a few bottles of designer water in their cooler, that when figured at the price per gallon, would cost more than Fenner's gas? I suppose that the way around paying a high price for gas in the middle of nowhere is to plan ahead. The open house weekend was well attended, I hope that more of you will be able to visit us in the future, maybe in 2005, if not before. Oh, and my copy of the Route 66 magazine is now on it's way to Wisconsin with one of our visitors who wanted it for his 85 year old father who drove from Wisconsin to Washington State and then down through California to Route 66 then back to Wisconsin just after WW II. Naturally I asked him if his Dad had any souvenirs of the trip laying around. Bob thought that this was such a cool story, that he's sending me out a new copy. This guy wanted the magazine so bad, I think that if he's known that Bob lived just across the river in Laughlin, he'd have gone knocking on his door. We superslabbed back home to L.A. on Sunday night, no DQ, but we did stop at the Bun Boy on Main Street in Barstow for dinner. Helen Baker - Open House Coordinator Goffs Schoolhouse Museum & Cultural Center 37198 Lanfair Road G-15, Goffs, California 92332 open the first weekend of the month - October through June - 9:00 AM - 5:00 PM all other times by appointment 760-733-4482 (Schoolhouse) - www.mdhca.org 818-705-3930 (Coordinator) - bakerhab@aol.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drivewdave@aol.com Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 In a message dated 12/12/03 10:55:23 PM, hester_nec@yahoo.com writes: << some of that part of 30 between Chambersburg and Breezewood scared the hell out of me >> Alex, please give us the whole story, this could be good, dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drivewdave@aol.com Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 sure, a picture of a sign is fine, a worthy subject, but of itself it gives me no idea what it is like to be there. The block that the Klose-In Motel is on has tons of stuff to look at and all we get is a picture of the sign, you could make a whole book out of the Aurora strip alone and still have to leave lots of stuff out. maybe that's why we just get the sign, editing constraints, surely it would not be shortsightedness... what's your sign?--NEON--was not my invention, wish it were... whoever wants to use it should feel free born under a neon sign, dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drivewdave@aol.com Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 reminds me of some guys in the hills of north CA who told my friend some of the curves were so tight "you can see your own taillights" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jenniferrt66 Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 > As for me I want more and I keep hoping for more. > Just a sign against the sky does not do it for me, > even if it is a cool old sign, like you, (and you, and you) > I have seen plenty of cool old signs already and > most of us have a good idea what they look like. > Removed from their context they resemble a butterfly > stuck on a pin in a cigar box, something to collect. I still like to take them anyway - but one thing I like to see (and as you mentioned, it increases the totality of the experience, not just in 2D - is old video footage of road trips, like in Highway Hangouts. That's neat. > > This sort of leads into the paragraph where Jennifer wrote: > > Hmmmmm...now that I think of it, I think that if we want a "true > vintage experience, we should drive the road in an old car from the > > 20's or 30's, and no cell phones, no coolers, nothing that anyone > traveling back then wouldn't have had either! Totally and fully > > recreate the real experience in an authentic manner! > > Sounds to me like a script for another 'reality' teevee show > along the lines of Frontier House or Victorian House, there > are lots of the possibilities, Okies, Model T Gypsy Campers, > 1950s style hot rod culture is making a comeback too. > ACK! The last thing I would want to do is suggest a premise for a "reality" show...I HATE so called reality shows with a very intense passion! I will spare you all my rant and forgive me if any of you love reality shows! I don't think a more ridiculous genre has ever been invented. > > PS if someone asks me "what's your sign? > there's a good chance I will say "NEON ! ! !" Good one! I doubt I'd ever be asked that question, but if I am, can I use that? LOL Jennifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 NOTE to anyone considering traveling U S 30 between Chambersburg and Breezewood and wishing to do it in a 1920's or 1930's car. Please leave a copy of your will and a pint of blood (for DNA id purposes) at the city hall in Chambersburg. You may need to leave something behind to identify you. I been driving for 50 years - and to be honest some of that part of 30 between Chambersburg and Breezewood scared the hell out of me - I was driving a 1986 Monte Carlo last time I went over it. Hudsonly, Alex B --- jenniferrt66 <jabremer66@aol.com> wrote: > > As for me I want more and I keep hoping for more. > > Just a sign against the sky does not do it for me, > > even if it is a cool old sign, like you, (and you, > and you) > > I have seen plenty of cool old signs already and > > most of us have a good idea what they look like. > > Removed from their context they resemble a > butterfly > > stuck on a pin in a cigar box, something to > collect. > > I still like to take them anyway - but one thing I > like to see (and > as you mentioned, it increases the totality of the > experience, not > just in 2D - is old video footage of road trips, > like in Highway > Hangouts. That's neat. > > > > > This sort of leads into the paragraph where > Jennifer wrote: > > > > Hmmmmm...now that I think of it, I think that > if we want a "true > > vintage experience, we should drive the road > in an old car from > the > > > > 20's or 30's, and no cell phones, no coolers, > nothing that > anyone > > traveling back then wouldn't have had either! > Totally and fully > > > > recreate the real experience in an authentic > manner! > > > > Sounds to me like a script for another 'reality' > teevee show > > along the lines of Frontier House or Victorian > House, there > > are lots of the possibilities, Okies, Model T > Gypsy Campers, > > 1950s style hot rod culture is making a comeback > too. > > > > ACK! The last thing I would want to do is suggest a > premise for > a "reality" show...I HATE so called reality shows > with a very intense > passion! I will spare you all my rant and forgive > me if any of you > love reality shows! I don't think a more ridiculous > genre has ever > been invented. > > > > > PS if someone asks me "what's your sign? > > there's a good chance I will say "NEON ! ! !" > > Good one! I doubt I'd ever be asked that question, > but if I am, can > I use that? LOL > > Jennifer > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carol Ruth Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Hey Alex, Penn DOT is now chomping away at the hill between McConnellsburg and Breezewood - this past summer I was doing some videotaping on that section before the pavement went and they are "straightening it out because there were too many accidents." So now instead of someone coming around one of those too scary curves you have the possibility of someone hurtling down the straightaway, losing control and slamming into you anyway. While I was stopped at one of the flagperson sites, those huge yellow earthmovers were rumbling down the mountain toward me and all I could see as they squeaked past me was " part "of the tire and I was driving an SUV. And,does anyone knows if that section will be a divided highway or simply a straightaway with a passing lane? Carol Alex Burr wrote: > NOTE to anyone considering traveling U S 30 between > Chambersburg and Breezewood and wishing to do it in a > 1920's or 1930's car. > > Please leave a copy of your will and a pint of blood > (for DNA id purposes) at the city hall in > Chambersburg. > > You may need to leave something behind to identify > you. I been driving for 50 years - and to be honest > some of that part of 30 between Chambersburg and > Breezewood scared the hell out of me - I was driving a > 1986 Monte Carlo last time I went over it. > > Hudsonly, > Alex B > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jenniferrt66 Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 I would have to consult with my husband, The Road Maven (aka Pat) as well as a map about this, but we took parts of U.S. 30 in Pennsylvania when we returned from Connecticut to Indiana. There was an area where we were that was curvy and steep in the mountains. It was dark, we were unfamiliar with the road, and to top it off, we were driving my mom's full size, extended Econoline van. Pat was having a heart failure. He was pretty nervous, and of all the things I got the giggles and was joking around in an attempt to lighten the mood - "hey Pat look at all the lights waaaaaaay out there down in that valley!!" That make him more nervous...talk about cranky. I didn't mean to laugh, it was just one of those situations where you just have to laugh, like in that new Brad Paisley song. Jennifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carol Ruth Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Jennifer, On some of those curves, with that size vehicle you could've met yourself "comin' round the bend." =-O Carol jenniferrt66 wrote: > There was > an area where we were that was curvy and steep in the mountains. It > was dark, we were unfamiliar with the road, and to top it off, we > were driving my mom's full size, extended Econoline van. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > <http://rd.yahoo.com/SIG=12cl8s6qs/M=267637...74/D=egroupweb/ S=1707284507:HM/EXP=1071351775/A=1853618/R=0/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqs o=60178338&partid=4116732> > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 > WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA > 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Ross Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 Thanks for the update, Hank. Kirk was one of the kindest individuals I've known. He loved the road and was very easy to do business with. In addition to organizing the Ride Rally each year, Kirk also produced a number of videos from his various tours. They can be obtained through Pam Woodward, for those who may be interested. Long live the Ride Rally and the memory of Kirk Woodward! Happy Holidays, everybody. Jim R. ----- Original Message ----- From: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 5:15 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Digest Number 29 Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There is 1 message in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. FYI Route 66 Article From: "Hank Hallmark" <thehallmarks@earthlink.net> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:08:48 -0800 From: "Hank Hallmark" <thehallmarks@earthlink.net> Subject: FYI Route 66 Article Here is additional information on the AMA Route 66 piece.... FYI [other Route 66 event background and history] Be aware the Mother Road Rally http://www.hhjm.com/rally/index.htm was started by Kirk Woodward out of Grapevine, TX. in 1995. He died of cancer on February 11, 2002. The 2002 Mother Road Rally was held as a memorial ride for Kirk and on June 15, 2002 at the CART66PF's 1st annual awards event, Kirk was presented-posthumously--the first "Get Your Kicks On Route 66" award. It was announced any future award in the "motorcycle" category would be know as the Kirk Woodward Memorial award. Kirk organized the first Mother Road Rally in 1995. To my knowledge, other than some [much] earlier Route 66 tours by the AMA--which, I don't think any went the entire length of Route 66, Kirk's event's success was the "motivation" for those tours which followed. Of course, individuals and groups have been doing "unorganized" touring of Route 66 since it's inception.... Kirk's widow, Pam , Pat Evans projectshalom@compuserve.com and Lew Bellinger lbellinger@nfx.net was instrumental in the success of the 2002 Mother Road Rally and intend to continue the "ride." I participated in the inaugural rally in 1995 serving as the West Coast Coordinator and assisting with the California portion of the participants guide. I rode a modified 1994 Harley Davidson Sportster from Santa Monica to the shore of Lake Michigan [that's west to east folks ;-)] that year. I have ridden the "ride" sufficient times to be known--as Kirk lovingly referred to us--as a "repeat offender".... Feel free to contact either the Mother Road Rally or the AMA for their tour schedule and itinerary. The more businesses open during their scheduled times the best it is for the merchants, the riders and the Route.... Scroll below Danny's original post for additional information.... Hank ----- Original Message ----- From: <DadsPlace@aol.com> To: <route66@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 5:51 PM Subject: [route66] Re: FYI Route 66 Article Danny NYC said: Hello Everyone I just received "American Motorcyclist" magazine it is the official mag for the AMA. It had a great article in it regarding the AMA ride last May along the "route," Quite a few photos and about 3 full pages of interesting essay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Here is the article--less photos. If you wish to read the article and view the photos use the following link: http://www.ama-cycle.org/index.asp Decades after it was decommissioned, Route 66 hasn't lost its kicks Story and photos by Greg Harrison gharrison@ama-cycle.org It's as American as Harley-Davidson. A ribbon of pavement that wound "from Chicago to L.A. More than 2,000 miles all the way." As far back as the 1930s, John Steinbeck called it "The Mother Road." It was the escape route for the Joad family in "The Grapes of Wrath," and for tens of thousands of others fleeing the Dust Bowl of Depression-era Oklahoma and Texas for the lush promised land of California. After World War II, it became something else-a symbol of a new American freedom to travel whenever and wherever we wanted. It was more than another road; it was the Main Street of America, a place with a style of its own. It even had a theme song, penned by Bobby Troup in 1946, and a television series back in the early 1960s, starring two guys and a Corvette convertible. There was a time, 40 or more years ago, when Route 66 was synonymous with adventure, whether you were traveling to a new life in the West or just heading out on a family vacation. Everything about it was unique, from the thoroughly modern motor courts that replaced old-fashioned hotels to a post-war architecture that saw gas stations shaped like dinosaurs and motels shaped like Indian teepees. It was, for a while, the epitome of American car, and motorcycle, culture. Then came the interstate highway system. It didn't happen overnight, but slowly, inevitably, Route 66 began to disappear. One piece at a time, it was rerouted, bypassed and replaced. Finally, in 1984, when the last stretch of Interstate 40 was completed near Williams, Arizona, Route 66 died. At least officially. From the road's beginning in 1926 through its heyday, millions of Americans were caught up in the lure of Route 66. Decades later, the attraction remains strong. But many believe the opportunity to travel this great American highway has long since passed. After all, the last piece of Route 66 disappeared nearly 20 years ago under a couple thousand miles worth of concrete monotony, chain motels and anonymous fast-food joints. Or did it? Standing just a couple of blocks from Lake Michigan, in the shadow of downtown Chicago, there's little hint that you're at the origin of one of the world's most famous roads. Near the corner of Adams Street and Michigan Avenue, though, you'll see a small sign saying, "Begin Historic Route 66." From here, in 1960, you could travel 2,448 miles to a Pacific Ocean beach in Santa Monica, California, and never leave Route 66. But the road that linked two of America's biggest cities spent most of its time traversing the wide-open spaces in between. As the song notes, it did pass through St. Louis, but the other lyrical highlights were Joplin, Missouri; Oklahoma City; Amarillo, Texas; Gallup, New Mexico; Flagstaff, Winona and Kingman, Arizona; along with Barstow and San Bernardino, California. As is probably obvious from that list, the route wasn't chosen for the population centers along the way. Instead, it was attractive because of geography. Hooking south out of Chicago, it quickly escaped the winter weather band. And it tackled the western mountains not at their most imposing in Colorado, but over the lower, less intimidating passes of New Mexico. So, while the skyscrapers of Chicago marked the road's beginning, the horizons along the way were more likely to be broken by grain elevators in Oklahoma or the mesas and buttes of Arizona. That's good news for those trying to find traces of the road today. The open landscapes of the Midwest and Southwest aren't overwhelmed by a network of roads constantly being widened and repaved. In many places, what was there decades ago is still there, just waiting to be found. In fact, maps show that 80 to 90 percent of the old road remains. Some of it has been redesignated with a different route number. Some has been incorporated into county road systems. Some has been abandoned, leaving behind cracked pavement overgrown with weeds. There are continuous stretches more than 100 miles long, and other stretches where only a few hundred feet survive. But the question is: How much of Route 66 can a 21st-century traveler actually ride? Seventeen AMA members from across the U.S. descended on Chicago last May to find out, as part of AMA Tours' inaugural Raising Route 66 ride. We started with a pilgrimage to Chicago's Lake Michigan shoreline, then headed southwest on Interstate 55, which roughly follows the old road. It looks like any other urban expressway, but in the suburb of Willowbrook, we caught the first glimmer of old 66 at Dell Rhea's Chicken Basket restaurant, home of "The Best-Dressed Chicken in Town." The business began in a gas station that served fried chicken to travelers as a sideline. In 1946, a full sit-down restaurant was built, and somehow, it's survived the fall of the road. Today, you can see the restaurant from the interstate, but you have to know just where to turn to reach it, on a mostly neglected stretch of service road. It isn't until you park in the restaurant lot and look back that the realization hits you: This two-lane road-wedged between I-55 and an industrial park-once was the Main Street of America. There are dozens of revelations like that. In Springfield, Illinois, we stopped at the Cozy Dog Drive-In, the place that perfected the corn dog back in 1946. At the Mississippi River, we saw the remains of the Chain of Rocks Bridge, the one-mile span with a kink in the middle that carried Route 66 traffic for decades and is now open only to hikers and bicyclists. We passed through Devil's Elbow, Missouri (named after a bend in a river), and Baxter Springs, Kansas ("First Cowtown in Kansas"), as we followed the old road west. Reaching the open plains of Oklahoma and Texas, we saw the road as Steinbeck saw it: "The long concrete path across the country, waving gently up and down on the map.over the red lands and the gray lands, twisting up into the mountains, crossing the Divide and down into the bright and terrible desert." But we also saw it as tourists did in the '40s, '50s and '60s, when it became a 2,400-mile theme park, full of attractions, both natural and manmade. From resurrected Burma Shave roadside rhymes to the Big Texan Steak House in Amarillo ("Home of the 72-ounce steak. Eat it and all the trimmings in an hour, and it's free!"), and the Wigwam Motel in Holbrook, Arizona ("Sleep in a Wigwam Tonight!"), we rolled along to the age-old rhythm of Route 66. Like so many of the tourists back then, we took the 60-mile side trip to the million-year-old spectacle of the Grand Canyon, where we watched the sun set from our privately catered barbecue on the canyon's rim. Along the way, we met people who are keeping Route 66 alive with museums, motels, restaurants and shops. People like Angel Delgadillo, who for more than a half-century has been dispensing road lore and cutting hair from his one-chair emporium overlooking the dusty main drag of Seligman, Arizona. "You wouldn't know it to look at it today," he told us, "but I used to sit here and watch thousands of cars, trucks and buses go by every day." And then there's his brother, Juan, who runs the Sno-Cap Drive-In just up the road ("Home of the Dead Chicken Dinner"). He entertains all who stop by with jokes he's been telling travelers since the '50s. For them, and for thousands of others, the magic of Route 66 was that it brought the entire nation to their doorsteps, making neighbors out of people who lived three, four or even five states away. "It's really always been that way," said a woman who runs a curio shop in an old clapboard hardware store in Halltown, Missouri. "Route 66 has always been about nice people in small towns wanting to meet new people and help them out." Eventually, we descended into the maze of freeways leading into Los Angeles. We jumped off the interstate and rode right down Sunset Boulevard, just as Route 66 travelers would have a half-century ago. Then we picked up Santa Monica Boulevard-the last leg of the trip, both then and now. Finally, ahead of us, we saw the blue of the Pacific. 2,500 miles after leaving Chicago, we posed for a group shot in Santa Monica. The plaque designates this part of Route 66 as the Will Rogers Highway. With the Pacific Ocean in the background, it also marks the end of the road-or the beginning, depending on your point of view. For two weeks, we'd traveled together-sometimes in groups, sometimes setting out on our own. Each night, we'd assemble over dinner to tell stories from the road. We shared tips on everything from the day's can't-miss roadside attractions to the best variety of pie on each menu. We found ways to stay warm in Illinois and cool in Arizona. We helped each other with minor bike problems, and when Spokane Dave's problematic starter motor-the part we feared might leave him stranded in the middle of nowhere-had the good taste to finally give up the ghost at our hotel in Santa Monica, practically within sight of a dealership, we cheered. Most of all, though, we found that the reports of Route 66's death have been greatly exaggerated. For those who are willing to take a little extra time to look for it, the Mother Road is alive and well, and waiting to be ridden. AMA Tours will again host the Raising Route 66 tour this May. For more information, call AMA Tours at (800) AMA-JOIN, ext.1190, or visit http://www.amadirectlink.com/travel/brochures/02route66.pdf © 2002, American Motorcyclist Association ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bakerhab2003 Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 In my bar hopping days, my standard answer to the question, "What's your sign?" was "STOP." When I met my future husband, I changed my answer to, "YIELD" and the rest, as they say, is history. Helen > what's your sign?--NEON--was not my invention, wish it were... > whoever wants to use it should feel free > > born under a neon sign, dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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