DennyG

Welcome aboard, Larry. I've been trying to catch up with Rick Sebak's blog mentioned in another thread ( http://americanroadmagazine.com/forum/inde...p?showtopic=533 ) and just read of their Grand Island, NE, visit this morning. There is a section (maybe the only remaining section) of one of the original seedling miles there. I thought I'd try to impress you with that bit of Nebraska LH knowledge (even though I didn't even know that much at 7:00 this morning ). It looks like this forum picked up the trailing parentheses as part of the URL in your Google Group link but this: http://groups.google.com/group/ILHA should work.

You've quickly exhausted my ultra-thin knowledge of GPX, Time Stamps, and tracking files. I'm at work and only have SA2006 to look at and it seems (from searching on line DeLorme manuals) that GPX export was added at SA2007. I'll take a look tonight if you don't have it sorted by then. Well at least you now know where you are - you just don't know when.

Yep, I remember all of those. Now, if I could just remember where I put my car keys yesterday...

Apparently some of the fellows over at RoadsideAmerica.com passed though Arizona in the last few days and have posted field reviews of the Jack Rabit Trading Post and Two Guns. Sometimes the RoadsideAmerica folks do informative in depth reports and sometimes they do "drive bys". These are closer to the "drive by" end of the scale but they are better than nothing and RoadsideAmerica remains one of my favorite websites.

I suggest taking a look at http://wwmx.org . I downloaded their LocationStamper (only) and successfully used it to add location info to photos from a Garmin track. In the short time I tried it, I never did succeed in tagging more than one photo at a time but that may be operator error. LocationStamper is somehow connected with a larger Microsoft project involving an online collection of photos. I did not look into that or any of the other WWMX software. LocationStamper is free. At the bottom of the WWMX download page are links to some alternative software. Some have free trial downloads even though full or permanent versions cost something. I didn't look into any of those.

Some very nice pictures. I assume you intentionally left it to the reader to decide whether your caption of "ample sight seeing opportunities" referred to ample opportunities to see sights or opportunities to see ample sights.

So that's what it takes to make an otherwise sane woman drive through submerged urban regions with white capped waves lapping hungrily at her door sills. For the purposes of geotagging, you want your PDA/GPS to behave as much like your camera as possible. I imagine that means avoiding settings like "last position" & "center". The camera doesn't know what time zone it's in so the PDA/GPS shouldn't either. One of my first insightful observations (probably the only one:-) after getting my first GPS was that it was the only device I had that told me the time without me telling it first. A GPS unit functions by knowing (actually being told by a satellite) exactly what the current time is. You can offset the display by values like -5 (to indicate five hours behind GMT) but you can't fiddle with the minutes and seconds. I'd say set the PDA/GPS to avoid any automatic time zone changes and then make sure your camera is set to the same time.

I've been undecided on this but it's now close enough that I think I can count on time being available and this bit of chatter got me motivated. I just booked Friday & Saturday nights at the Route 66 H&CC. Unlike those partying Sandersons, I got a cheap jacuzzi-less room but I'll be at the CoR Bridge Friday morning and at the Alamo whenever. This year I might cross the bridge taillights first just because I can.

What a bizarre event! A few months ago I wouldn't have had any idea what you were talking about but I encountered the "ark" on my Boone's Lick outing in May. The article makes no mention of ShowMe Aquatics & Fitness being a non-profit organization which is something I learned from a web search. Knowing that a non-profit outfit is benefiting from photos of sledgehammer wielding celebrants makes it a little less bizarre - but only a little.

Rick Sebak was one of the speakers at the book signing in Pittsburgh and he mentioned that an LH related program was in the works. But he didn't mention (or I didn't hear) the blog. I just did a couple of spot checks and need to get back to read the whole thing. I'm fighting the urge to do that now because I can tell it has the ability to make me seriously late for work.

Most of the road trip reports posted here make me want to run out and duplicate them but not this one. I can't imagine what concert justified all that. Rolling Stones opening for Springsteen? Glad the GPS made it tolerable. I believe that time stamps are the only way that tracking logs can be coordinated with photos so you want to be sure you synchronize the time in your camera and PDA.

Congrats. Sounds like a good setup. Now we're just waiting for the report of that first cross country trip without missing a turn or a landmark.

I was quite happy to help out a little and Amber's all set to completely handle the next episode without any interference from me. But the main reason I jumped in here is to mention the iTunes connection. I guess we shouldn't be surprised to see that the outfit who invented the iPod (and enjoys a bit of a profit from it:-) is way ahead of the rest in handling podcasts. "American Road Trip Talk" will eventually work its way through other podcast directories and syndication systems but it is already showing up near the top in iTunes store offerings. (Try a search for "road trip" then look at the podcasts it turns up.) Because iTunes is the most popular and most complete podcast service, we have recently added a button to the American Road website that lets iTunes users subscribe with just a click. This means that American Road website visitors who happen to use iTunes can easily subscribe and so can iTunes users who are unfamiliar with American Road Magazine but do browse the iTunes store. Maybe some of that latter group will discover another good thing.

Wonderful stuff. I knew of the site and even had it bookmarked but didn't think to look. (I need to come up with a better label that the site's name: "Transportation Maps".) I don't recall all the county maps being there before but... The site is obviously not stagnant. At first pass, the 1919 maps seem to reinforce my/our current thinking on routes. Good find, KtSotR. Hope your guest catches up on his sleep. I didn't know people had to justify trips to Ohio. Isn't it a dream we're all born with?

It ain't so. Mobilene - and Mobilene's maps - are right. I was wrong. We were both talking about the same route but I was looking at what are apparently out of date sources which did not show one section labeled as a state route. The change seems to have been made between 1999 and 2004.

WRONG! Apologizes to mobilene. My comments yesterday were based on a downlevel DeLorme installation (SA2006) I have at work and the Unofficial Ohio State Highways Web Site. Today, with SA2008 and a look at Ohio Highway Ends, I see that OH-43 now goes to OH-7 in Steubenvile. The Unofficial Ohio State Highways date is 1998 and the Ohio Highway Ends date is 2004. Apparently OH-43 grew a bit in the years between. Sorry I ever doubted you, Jim.

KtSotR, Don't take one minute from your guests. I'm pretty sure I can find my way with what I have. If time appears to do the a scan, it would be appreciated but, if not, I'll not mind. Interesting comment on the dates and directions. It seems quite logical that the need for verbal directions would diminish with better maps and marking but I hadn't thought of it that way before. Ironic, that today, when roads at almost every level are well marked and we have detailed atlases and hi-tech navigation systems, there is a market for guide books because some of us insist on trying to follow routes that those signs and atlases don't cover.

This particular "small" is about 20 miles - to the state line. I did initially think of only the older/northern/Steubenville route but I'm now thinking I may drive both if time permits or, if it doesn't, maybe just the newer/southern/Georges Run route. The reason for that is that the northern route has been hit by US-22 and other developments whereas the southern route may be a little less modernized and therefore more interesting. Pure conjecture, of course. Does the 1926 PPOO Guide have turn-by-turn instructions? I believe I have at least images of the maps from guides for both routes but little else. I don't anticipate any problem getting the route(s) close enough for driving but some of those "turn left at Farmer Brown's red barn" bits might be fun.

Sensible theory but by then the PPOO had moved south to the Wellsburg-Georges Run route.

I think that's pretty much the same (northern pre-192x) route I came up with but some things you said really confused me. OH-43 starts at US-22 near Wintersville and I don't believe it (OH-43) has any PPOO history. US-22 does join the four lane US-22A west of Wintersville with the straighter course becoming CR-22A so I'm guessing that's what you are referring to. DeLorme does, in fact, label the first segment of this "Old US Route 22". I was even more confused with your Cadiz comments until I discovered that Deersville Ridge Road is also CR-2 so I'm pretty sure that's what you meant (OH-2 goes through Cleveland). But both PPOO routes headed more or less to Dennison so I don't think either CR-2 or US-22 are it. I think US-36 is the current PPOO west of Cadiz but one map does show two towns between Cadiz and Dennison that modern maps do not. My suspicion is that these towns, Laceyville & Franklin, are underneath Tappan Lake.

I'm hoping to be in West Virginia over Labor Day weekend. Time constraints dictate the eastbound route but the return should be more leisurely. US-22 all the way from the state line seemed reasonable and would get me just a touch of the Pikes Peak Ocean to Ocean Highway. Twenty-two enters Ohio at Steubenville and so did the PPOO - for awhile. PPOO maps from the teens and early twenties show the Steubenville route but those from 1925 and 1927 show it passing through the town of Georges Run, OH, about eight miles south, after crossing the river at Wellsburg, WV. I can approximate the routes on modern roads but the scale of those old maps leaves room for conjecture. I figure there's a pretty good chance some folks here (and you know who you are:-) could do better. My current interest is in that small are east of Cadiz.

Embarrassingly, I must confess to never seeing this mural although I have seen Grohe's work elsewhere (e.g., Massillon, Steubenville). Very cool! Bucyrus is about 35 miles west of Ashland but, since Gherkintrude is visiting someone in Ashland, they might be looking for sights in the area. The Carousel District I mentioned in Mansfield isn't quite on the Pittsburgh-Ashland route, either.

You bet. For starters, there's the big teapot in Chester, WV. In Ohio there is the "Point of Beginning", some nice brick sections of the old road, a bunch of classic cars in Canton, and, near your end point, the Carousel in Mansfield. Eat at the 1955 Steel Trolley Diner in Lisbon and/or the 1837 Spread Eagle Tavern in Hanoverton. There's plenty more. Ohio is blessed not only with the Lincoln Highway but with Michael Buettner to research and document it. Printed or CD copies of his excellent guide can be purchased here and it's online free here. It's not a guide but the journal of my own 2005 drive over the LH in Ohio is here. I'll do my best to answer more specific questions as the count down proceeds.

That's one of the few things said here that really made an impression. I eat out a lot when I'm home so doing it on the road seems natural and experiencing some of the local eateries is part of the fun. My motel standards are no doubt lower that most wives' and I enjoy checking out the independent motels, too. I'm unsure of any cost benefits and I'm hardly fond of having some interesting roads off limits except through a towed tender. But the people thing. That's different. I have met a few neighbors at motels but it's certainly the exception - Blue Swallow, Wigwams, Cactus Inn. It doesn't happen often. That's not enough to make me start shopping for an RV tomorrow but it's a start.

I'd expect track logging to be completely independent of routing. Of course, with the PDA, getting off the route might involve dragons.