Guest brownwho63 Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Alex, you're a bonafide car guy so you know that old cars have nearly *everything* to do with old roads. (grin) You can view our Monte, Big Blue, on the old 66 bridge at Times Beach, MO: http://finance.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/A.../photos/view/77 20?b=11 Or in front of the now-closed Red Cedar Inn in Pacific, MO: http://finance.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/A.../photos/view/77 20?b=12 When do we get to see your Hudson?....Bliss --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@...> wrote: > > Ah, Montes. I sort of miss mine (19860. But it > wasn't exactly the most comfortable car for long > distances. I sometimes wonder if it had a suspension > package, given that the engine appears to have been > some sort of special engine. According to the guy I > sold it to the thing was a 305 (which I knew), but had > a few goodies with the block that, he said, boosted hp > up to around 220, 225. 305's in 1986, according to > what I can find, were either stock 150 hp or Camarro > 180 or 190 - can't seem to pin that down. > > As for the suspension - my '87 Dodge 1/2 ton pickup > rides better than the Monte did. > > So what's this got to do with American Roads - Hey, > (ok so after 1970 most were designed to run on > interstates) these old cars were built to run all day > long on the old roads we are interested in. Towns were > smaller, you didn't have a Mickey D or BQ or DQ on > every corner. The older cars on those old roads gave > you a chance to see everything - unless you were a > nutcase like some of us were and drove way to fast for > those old roads. But you didn't have the traffic like > today - except where there happens to be an interstate > to take traffic off the old road, returning it to the > good old days. > > Hudsonly, > Alex B > > --- brownwho63 <brownwho63@...> wrote: > > > Yeah, the '76 and '77 models were the biggest Montes > > GM ever made > > and were styled to compete directly with the T-Bird. > > Ours is light > > blue with a white vinyl landau roof, > > factory-optional sun roof, and > > a 350 c.i. engine with 4 bbl carb. Some models in > > this year came > > with a 305 motor and, I believe, you could also get > > a 6 cylinder but > > I've never seen one in these particular years. No > > rust problem > > here. The car is nearly mint and seldom leaves the > > garage....Bliss > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Brian Butko > > <babutko@> > > wrote: > > > > > > My mom and dad had his and her '77 Monte Carlos, > > one silver, one > > blue, each > > > with obligatory vinyl landau roof. We loved them. > > They ran > > differently, but > > > each rusted just as quickly as the other. > > > > > > That had to be the last year that car hoods were > > ever that looong. > > > > > > Brian > > > www.brianbutko.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "brownwho63" <brownwho63@> > > > > Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:56:09 -0000 > > > > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Going to the > > Arizona Fun Run? > > > > > > > > While the annual Fun Run is on our list of > > things to do, we > > won't be > > > > making the run again this year. Our '77 Monte > > would love > > it!...Bliss > > > > > > > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike > > Ward" <flyboy1946@> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> How many list members are planning to be in > > Arizona the weekend > > of > > > >> May 5-7 for the annual Fun Run? > > > >> > > > >> Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, > but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brownwho63 Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 I goofed up in getting to the photos noted in my last post. Anyway, you can see them in the Bliss Blue Highways album if you like....Bliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rwarn17588 Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 When I asked the state of Oklahoma to preserve the historic Captain Creek Bridge on old Route 66 near Wellston, it listened: http://rwarn17588.wordpress.com/2006/04/21...appearance-will -be-preserved/ I simply wrote a cordial e-mail to the governor, expressing my concerns that a bridge listed on the National Register of Historic Places *might* have its appearance altered by repairs. The governor forwarded it to the highways people, and letter apparently helped steer them toward a course of action that won't mess with the bridge's look. So ... I'm pretty happy. Ron Warnick Tulsa, OK www.route66news.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Michalek Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Victoria Stone <scout_614@...> wrote: > > My name is Victoria and I work for Oklahoma Today magazine. I'm > trying to compile a fun list for our next issue - which is a Route > 66 issue - of road or driving lingo. An example of something would > be a "cowboy air conditioner" which is a bandana soaked in ice-cold > water and tied around either your head or neck. Clever sayings or > slang words, anything of this type. If anyone can think of anything > please let me know. My editors would like about 30 and as of now I > have about 2, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. How about 4-60 air? That's the sort of air conditioning you get by rolling down four windows and driving 60 mph. I've also heard restaurants you only go to once called "scarf and barfs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Michalek Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Betcha can't top this one: I (yep, yours truly) locked the keys in a car that was RUNNING! I had to break a window to get them out. Another time, I did the same. I used the dipstick you check your tranny fluid with to pop the lock and broke the dipstick, but did get the lock open. The next day, my brother asked me why I didn't have my spare key in my wallet. Thereupon I remember that I did, in fact, have a spare key in my wallet. Too late smart for that one. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "D Gardner" <dgardner1@...> wrote: > > Ha! > > My wife brought a story home like this a few weeks ago. She saw a lady > seemingly in distress standing outside the dental office where she > works. When my wife walked out and asked if there was anything she > could do to help, the lady cried that her automatic door unlocker > wasn't working on her car and that she was in a hurry and that her > phone was locked in the car so she couldn't call AAA. > > My wife looked at the automatic key fob the lady was holding and saw > all the keys on it. She asked the lady if the key that she uses to > *start the car* was on that key chain. Well, yes. Then, my wife > suggested that she try the key in the car door. Well, by golly, the > key worked. > > Before the lady drove off, my wife suggested that she stop by the > local mall and get a new battery for the key fob. > > Wonders will never cease, eh? > > Dave Gardner > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@> wrote: > > > > Ah, the old "key to lock the doors" trick - seems to > > me that technology has been around for years and > > years. LOL > > > > Hudsonly, > > Alex B > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve Varner Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Many old roads have placed brown Historic Route signs of one type or another along US highways and auto trails. If you were involved in placing the signs I'd love to hear from you. I'm now on the signage sub-committee of the Old Highway 80 Committee here in San Diego County. I don't think we need to reinvent the wheel since so many other areas have done this. I know that US101 and US395 have been signed in certain areas of San Diego County, and that Route 66 has such signs in most states. I'd like to know if the signs were placed by the state DOT, or by local governments. I'd also like to know how the signage was funded. What happened in California to get the brown Historic Route 66 directional signs placed in Califonia along the Interstate freeways (the ones that tell you where to exit to get on 66)? Also, since US 80 in San Diego County has carried at least eight old auto trails that I know of, how have people on auto trail committees worked to get those trails signed? Steve Varner ("Parsa") http://ushighway66.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim conkle Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Hi Steve, Hampton Inns paid and shipped 10 of each of the state signs to the state associations. They were to be used as replacements for those stolen (at least one state sold theirs to raise money which was not what they were given to them for) which happens all the time. The one in front of The Aztec Hotel in Monrovia, that we are doing a restoration project on, had the one in front of the hotel stolen two years ago. The initial issue of the signs were from the states, counties and cities that wanted them put up. Here in California trying to get CalTrans to fund such a project will not be easy and in fact very hard. As most of the old roads RT 66, Hwy 99 & 101 have been given up to the counties and the state seems to be no more involved. The best way is to get local funding or a sponsor to get involved. By the way the signs can not have anything on them that is not approved by CalTrans. In other words Hampton did not get their name anywhere on the signs. They paid to have them made and then donated them to my foundation and we turned around and donated them to the states. It would be nice if you are able to get some local politicians, business's and grassroots groups to step up and assist you. Let me know if we can help in anyway. Thanks James M Conkle CEO Route 66 Preservation Foundation Preservation Historic Roads & Corridors P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760 617 3991 760 868 8614 fax 760 868 3320 jimconkle@verizon.net www.cart66pf.org rom: [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Steve Varner Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 1:30 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] How did you place Historic Route signs? Many old roads have placed brown Historic Route signs of one type or another along US highways and auto trails. If you were involved in placing the signs I'd love to hear from you. I'm now on the signage sub-committee of the Old Highway 80 Committee here in San Diego County. I don't think we need to reinvent the wheel since so many other areas have done this. I know that US101 and US395 have been signed in certain areas of San Diego County, and that Route 66 has such signs in most states. I'd like to know if the signs were placed by the state DOT, or by local governments. I'd also like to know how the signage was funded. What happened in California to get the brown Historic Route 66 directional signs placed in Califonia along the Interstate freeways (the ones that tell you where to exit to get on 66)? Also, since US 80 in San Diego County has carried at least eight old auto trails that I know of, how have people on auto trail committees worked to get those trails signed? Steve Varner ("Parsa") http://ushighway66.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. Clemens, MI 48046 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shhazam Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 This group likes to find the little scenic road; but, there are also some major highways that are beautiful to ride too. This time of year in California, the main roads to the Sierra Mountains are providing some beautiful views with all the remaining snow. We just got back from a round trip to Reno and I-80 from Truckee East provides some great snowy views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Backlin Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Michalek" <big_ugly_mich@yahoo.com> > I've also heard restaurants you only go to once called "scarf and > barfs". > Never heard that one. I've heard of "greasy spoons", though. Has anyone mentioned "Roach Motel", yet? Also "mom & pops" to describe independent (non-chain) motels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 two thoughts: 1) Ugly Road: Quinn's apt description of Interstate highways. 2) (maybe already listed) Ghost Signage: fading advertisements painted on buildings, usually brick but any surface will do. Tsingtao Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Michalek" <big_ugly_mich@yahoo.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 2:59 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Road and/or driving lingo > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Victoria Stone <scout_614@...> > wrote: > > > > My name is Victoria and I work for Oklahoma Today magazine. I'm > > trying to compile a fun list for our next issue - which is a Route > > 66 issue - of road or driving lingo. An example of something would > > be a "cowboy air conditioner" which is a bandana soaked in ice-cold > > water and tied around either your head or neck. Clever sayings or > > slang words, anything of this type. If anyone can think of anything > > please let me know. My editors would like about 30 and as of now I > > have about 2, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. > > How about 4-60 air? That's the sort of air conditioning you get by > rolling down four windows and driving 60 mph. > > I've also heard restaurants you only go to once called "scarf and > barfs". > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. Clemens, MI 48046 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 After last week's visit to Tadmor and Frank's comments on the other Dayton area dam on US-40, I just had to stop by the Englewood MetroPark yesterday. I drive within five miles of this place once or twice a month and have never stopped. There is no abandoned town here but there is an original National Road bridge still in use within the park. Some photos at http://www.dennygibson.com/oddment/englewoodpk/index.htm --Denny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ronilynnj Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Hi, We will be heading to Fremont (sprint car race) in the near future and was wondering if anyone has ever stayed at the Old Orchard or any of the other motels in the area? Many Thanks, Roni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D Gardner Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Hi all, Just got back from a week vacation in the Islands... 5 days on Oahu and 3 days in Kauai. Interesting roads and stories (yeah, I know it's tough to drive there from the west coast (or any coast, for that matter <grin>)) On Oahu our tour guide was telling us about H1 (the Nimitz Freeway) and then the cross-island freeway, H2. He said that if you missed the intersection on the other side of the island for H1 connecting to H2, you be on H2O. ....... Well, *I* thought it was funny (half of our tour bus *didn't get it* <sigh>) For our driving... we rented a car (Ford Explorer 4WD)on Kauai... and drove around the south side of the island (from Lihue)... to Waimea and then up to the Waimea Canyon Lookout...in a manner similar to looking out over the Grand Canyon in Arizona, at the lookout point, we could look down on Helicopters touring deep in the canyon below us... and across the canyon--maybe a mile or so away, we could see huge waterfalls plummeting over the cliffs to the densely forested valleys below. Absolutely beautiful! Then, we turned it around and drove back through Waimea--to a Kauai Coffee Plantation.... sampled some great java (and bought some bags of beans as well)... stopped at a little Mom and Pop Noodle Shop in Lihue (the noodle dish resembles Ramen, but in Hawaii, it's called Saimen--very tasty noodles with broth with chicken, pork, or beef and hardboiled egg and chopped veggies... sort of similar to Japanese soba noodles). After eating the Saimen, we toodled on out on the road again through Kapaa on the East Shore and then around the North Shore of the island through Princeville and the Hanalei Valley-- another beautiful vista. The roads here are three-laners... and in the mornings you use two lanes for heading into Lihue and in the afternoons you use two lanes for heading out of Lihue.... Once you are past Kapaa, however, the road becomes a two-laner (and at times a very narrow single lane) crossing over single-lane bridges (one of which was washed out by a damburst back in April--we drove over the aftermath and construction quick-fix). On the north shore, we drove by the quaint village church and meeting hall in Princeville and then on to the dry-cave beach and wet-cave beach before hitting the end of the road at the Pali (cliffs).... A most amazing drive with unbelievable scenery. Definitely want to go back there (to retire maybe?)... But gas prices are steep over there... rental car place charges $5.50/gal. Now we're back in Cali... and facing the freeways and commute to work. Aaargh! (Lately I've been riding the train, however...) Later... Dave Gardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Dave, Back in the late 60's when I was stationed out there in the Coast Guard (we did a great job - none of it's missing!!) we all sat around waiting for them to build that bridge from Oahu to CA in order to make the interstates true interstates!!!! Guess they're still waiting!!! LOL Hudsonly, Alex B --- D Gardner <dgardner1@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi all, > > Just got back from a week vacation in the Islands... > > 5 days on Oahu and 3 days in Kauai. > > Interesting roads and stories (yeah, I know it's > tough to drive there > from the west coast (or any coast, for that matter > <grin>)) > > On Oahu our tour guide was telling us about H1 (the > Nimitz Freeway) > and then the cross-island freeway, H2. > > He said that if you missed the intersection on the > other side of the > island for H1 connecting to H2, you be on H2O. > > ....... > > Well, *I* thought it was funny (half of our tour bus > *didn't get it* > <sigh>) > > > For our driving... we rented a car (Ford Explorer > 4WD)on Kauai... and > drove around the south side of the island (from > Lihue)... to Waimea > and then up to the Waimea Canyon Lookout...in a > manner similar to > looking out over the Grand Canyon in Arizona, at the > lookout point, > we could look down on Helicopters touring deep in > the canyon below > us... and across the canyon--maybe a mile or so > away, we could see > huge waterfalls plummeting over the cliffs to the > densely forested > valleys below. Absolutely beautiful! > > Then, we turned it around and drove back through > Waimea--to a Kauai > Coffee Plantation.... sampled some great java (and > bought some bags > of beans as well)... stopped at a little Mom and Pop > Noodle Shop in > Lihue (the noodle dish resembles Ramen, but in > Hawaii, it's called > Saimen--very tasty noodles with broth with chicken, > pork, or beef and > hardboiled egg and chopped veggies... sort of > similar to Japanese > soba noodles). After eating the Saimen, we toodled > on out on the > road again through Kapaa on the East Shore and then > around the North > Shore of the island through Princeville and the > Hanalei Valley-- > another beautiful vista. > > The roads here are three-laners... and in the > mornings you use two > lanes for heading into Lihue and in the afternoons > you use two lanes > for heading out of Lihue.... Once you are past > Kapaa, however, the > road becomes a two-laner (and at times a very narrow > single lane) > crossing over single-lane bridges (one of which was > washed out by a > damburst back in April--we drove over the aftermath > and construction > quick-fix). On the north shore, we drove by the > quaint village > church and meeting hall in Princeville and then on > to the dry-cave > beach and wet-cave beach before hitting the end of > the road at the > Pali (cliffs).... > > A most amazing drive with unbelievable scenery. > Definitely want to > go back there (to retire maybe?)... > > But gas prices are steep over there... rental car > place charges > $5.50/gal. > > Now we're back in Cali... and facing the freeways > and commute to > work. Aaargh! (Lately I've been riding the train, > however...) > > Later... > > Dave Gardner > > > > A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PJ Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 ...Next Trip... ~CamPing 2006~ [magnify] <http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog/slideshow.html?p=33> Loft Mtn @ Shenandoah National Park, 25,26,27 July (maybe longer) 38 15 44 n 78 39 37 w Msg Me 4 More info... http://www.nps.gov/shen/home.htm <http://www.nps.gov/shen/home.htm> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 I inadvertantly erased a picture someone sent of an Enco gas station that looked like a teepee. If someone would be willing to repost it I would appreciate it...Thanks, Tsingtao Kip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Thanks roaddog, I've definitely seen some of these post-historic creatures. A quick search brought me here . . . http://www.kafi-benz.com/display_0002_en.html http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/19/arts/design/19gary.html Much of our family are from the Farmingdale area, but things change. Will keep an eye out and camera focussed for examples in the area. ... Chris NJ Exit 7-A --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "roaddog_rt66" <roaddog_rt66@y...> wrote: > > There have been somme recent deaths that are of interest to those of > us who love the open road. > > Wilson Pickett-- Sang such great roadsongs as "Mustang Sally", > and "In the Midnight Hour". Called the Wicked Pickett either for > his way of singing are off-stage antics. His CD is on my jukebox of > top-ever albums, which will give you a good idea of how I rate his > music. The movie "The Commitments" was about an Irish band's > struggles to play that great southern soul music. Pop a Pickett CD > in and get ready for some good driving. He was 66. Interesting. I > did some great cruising and partying to his music back in the > sixties. > > > Sanora Babb-- Talk about your day late and dollar short. She wrote > a highly acclaimed book on the migrants from the Great Plains during > the Dust Bowl era which was scheduled to be published, except > someone else beat her to it, and her manuscript was put on the > shelf. Only recently, was "Whose Names Are Unknown" published. I > have not read it, but have heard it is quite good. Probably, the > only person I can think of with as bad of luck would be Elisha Gray > of Highland Park, Illinois, whose patent for the telephone was > beaten to Washington by a couple of hours. That is why we have Bell > Telephone instead of Gray Telephone. > > By the way, the fellow who beat her book to publishing was J.S., or > John Steinbeck, to you and me. His book was "The Grapes of Wrath." > Perhaps we wouldn't have the moniker "Mother Road." I wonder what > she called it? She was 98. > > Donald Fry-- founded the Fry supermarket chain in Arizona and > California. He opened his first store after World War II. I have > not been out to these two states yet, so am not familiar with these > stores, but I admire anyone who builds his own business from the > ground up. > > Jim Gary-- Mr. Dinosaur out in the New Jersey area. He created > many excellent dinosaur scultures out of junk 50s to 70s car parts > and I believe even had an exhibition at the Smithsonian. I > absolutely love to be driving down the road and look to side to see > something you don't usually see. His work fits the bill. If I ever > get out to New Jersey, I'll definitely get out to see his stuff. > Several of his pieces are on display at a children's park in Camden, > and, I believe by his home. He was 66. > > Feel free to add anything else you know about these people. > > Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest keepitreal08628 Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 I don't "speak up" on this list as I would like to, mostly because over these past months, I've been unable to get out on the road, and it makes me totally nuts to read about the adventures of others when I'm not able to travel myself. However, we ARE planning a vacation in July...flying into Denver, then driving to Cheyenne for two or three days of rodeo, then a few days at Estes Park in CO. We're traveling with another couple, who will head back home after a week. My husband and I would like to stay a bit longer, although I think we have a family wedding the following weekend, so our extension really would only be a few days. If you have any ideas for places of interest in Denver or within a couple of hours of Denver, I'd be most interested. You can email me offlist if you wish (but put the group name in the subject line so I don't delete it!). I just received a promotional brochure from the Colorado Visitors Bureau (2005 edition...duh). It seems the focus in CO is on skiing (in winter months) and horseback riding. We definitely want to ride, but are beginners, so nothing wild. Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!! I am an amateur photographer and sketch artist, so am realy looking forward to this vacation! Rita in NJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thehinge@magpage.com> Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Rita, Now, if you want to take photos of some road engineering, you could start with the Eisenhower Tunnel on I-70. Though, you might attract some unwanted attention from the employees and subsequently, the police, for taking pictures of the tunnel.....post 9/11 paranoia and all. It's a shame, you want to take pics of any large structure and you may be suspected of being a terrorist. I myself did in downtown Philly last year after I took a digital pic of a QUILT in an office building lobby. Seems some woman imagined I took a picture of her and reported me to building security. Talk about paranoid...geez. I don't want to sound like an apologist for George Bush's "keep alert" vision of American security. I am pretty liberal and I don't believe law abiding citizens should be subject to wire taps, email monitoring, etc. But, how else do you catch terrorists? Well, as long as wire taps and email intercepts to catch terrorists don't turn into arrests for other criminal activity, I guess I'm okay with it. Had I been arrested in Philly, I would have had a lawyer on the phone. Matt Smallwood On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:11:40 -0000 "keepitreal08628" <keepitreal08628@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > I don't "speak up" on this list as I would like > to, mostly because > over these past months, I've been unable to get out on > the road, and > it makes me totally nuts to read about the adventures of > others when > I'm not able to travel myself. > > However, we ARE planning a vacation in July...flying into > Denver, > then driving to Cheyenne for two or three days of rodeo, > then a few > days at Estes Park in CO. We're traveling with > another couple, who > will head back home after a week. My husband and I > would like to > stay a bit longer, although I think we have a family > wedding the > following weekend, so our extension really would only be > a few days. > > If you have any ideas for places of interest in Denver or > within a > couple of hours of Denver, I'd be most interested. > You can email me > offlist if you wish (but put the group name in the > subject line so I > don't delete it!). > > I just received a promotional brochure from the Colorado > Visitors > Bureau (2005 edition...duh). It seems the focus in > CO is on skiing > (in winter months) and horseback riding. We > definitely want to > ride, but are beginners, so nothing wild. > > Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly > appreciated!!! I am an > amateur photographer and sketch artist, so am realy > looking forward > to this vacation! > > Rita in NJ > > > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE > 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, > Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message > via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the > web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email > to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drivewdave@aol.com Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 In a message dated 1/21/6 5:28:07 PM, you wrote: <<Of course, on the superslab, there really isn't all that much to see.>> oh really, maybe that's how it is in the midwest, there is plenty to see along I-5 here in WA. I kind of get the sense that 'superslab' is a bit condescending, I was that way thirty years ago when I told my aunt and uncle that I drove all the way from Tacoma to Bellingham without using the freeway. since then i am long out of 'roadie' second grade and have long got rid of bias based on number of lanes. two blocks from here is a six lane former US highway, it's magnificent and has been serving the motoring public for seventy five years, hardly a superslab but not one of those beloved two-lane roads either. a week ago as I drove from Tacoma to Seattle on i-5 as I have done hundreds of times since it was built in the late 60s I was thinking about the two-lane bias that often prevails among roadies. and I got to thinking how back in the old days before the superslab the people driving those two-lane probably did not think they were so special like we do now. and I got to thinking will people in the future be nostalgic for the superslab the way people are nostalgic about the old US highway system nowdays? while these thoughts went through my head there was plenty to see along the roadside, the commercial development from Tacoma E to Fife filled in dramatically in the 90s. back in the 70s you could still drive the S frontage road of 1920s cement with grass shoulders, now it is mostly car dealers and the like, that S frontage road was The Pacific Highway and then US99 until replaced by a four lane superslab in the late 20s What to see? Plenty of bright lights, signage, attention getting devices, just like what roadies drool over on the old two lanes except these are in real time, right now. after leaving Fife there is a stretch that is less developed and you hit what for me is always fascinating, a 90 degree bend from heading E to heading N, so big it takes about fifteen seconds to go round, It's huge. then you see the bigscreen TV billboard up high (largest on the W coast) and streams of traffic coming down off the hill. At night with all the headlights and taillights and truck clearance lights this road with all the ups and downs and bends is alway spectacular and I never tire of it. So all of the continuing descriptions of the superslab being boring don't cut it with me, there are no boring roads, just boring people. It reminds me of what a sheepherd said about the job, most people last about three days, they go nuts from the boredom. the ones who succeed are the smart and the dumb, the smart can entertain themselves and the dumb blend into the landscape, take the superslab challenge, there might be more to experience than meets the eye. this is not my first rant on the subject, if you want to read more about I-5 between Tacoma and Seattle there are a few posts from years ago befofe I got moderated for being too abrasive. Happy Motoring, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dave Reese Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Rita, I have been flying into Denver a few times a year for the last few years with a son at the US Air Force Academy. Some of our favorites in the area are The Brown Palace Hotel (and the Tea) in Denver, the History Museum and the Capital building in Denver as well, Golden, the original capital. To the south we love the Academy of course, as well as Old Colorado City for shopping, Manitou Springs for shopping, Pikes Peak, the Garden of the Gods (take a lot of photos there), the Cliff Dwellings, and the Cave of the Winds, and the Cliff House Hotel for a very special dining experience of old time luxury. There is much more in the area, but the mountains alone will use up a ton of your photography time. There are lots of great old towns on the road to Breckinridge as well. I am sure that you will hear more from others but those are some of our favorites... Dave Reese Allentown PA Home of Brooklands Speedway and Cherrington Park http://www.geocities.com/brooklandsspeedway <http://www.geocities.com/brooklandsspeedway> <http://www.summerharmony.com> -----Original Message----- If you have any ideas for places of interest in Denver or within a couple of hours of Denver, I'd be most interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thehinge@magpage.com> Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I've listened to the Cross Country XM station, Pat and that's all that I think would interest me. It's Americana oriented radio. XM used to have a loop that you could listen to free for a couple of hours on the net...but now you have to pay for it after a couple of hours. Well, I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. Few full feature internet services are free these days. But, to answer your question...no, I wouldn't pay for a player and a subscription. You know XM and Sirius are a partnership of GM and some other car company.....I think it's a lot to pay into the pockets of their stockholders. Listen to free radio...or donate to a non-profit, public radio station. That's one person's opinion, though. Matt Smallwood On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:54:41 -0000 "Pat B." <roadmaven@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > does anyone have XM Satellite Radio? Since I'm growing > weary of > stations playing the same 30 songs and the new oldies > station playing > stuff from the 80's (no joking!), I thought I'd look at > this as an > alternative. I've been in the process this winter of > restoring ole blue > (http://circlecitycorvairs.tripod.com/id27.html) and > decided to look at > a new stereo system while the car's in pieces. At > Mal-Wart, their > stereos on display are hooked up to XM and that's what > caused me to > look into XM. I especially like the various > "Decades" channels of music > they have (40's, 50's, 60's, etc). Any of you had any > experience with > it & if so, is it worth the $12.95/month? > > Pat B. > > > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE > 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, > Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message > via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > > Business finance course > > > Business to business finance > > > Small business finance > > > > > Business finance consultant > > > Business finance schools > > > Business finance schools > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the > web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email > to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Frankovich Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I have Sirius and love it. The oldies stations are great, and they play plenty of Doo Wop. I also dig the blues, standards, eighties alternative, and classic country channels. I have heard of folks switching to Sirius from XM. Mike Frankovich --- thehinge@magpage.com wrote: > I've listened to the Cross Country XM station, Pat > and > that's all that I think would interest me. It's > Americana > oriented radio. XM used to have a loop that you > could > listen to free for a couple of hours on the > net...but now > you have to pay for it after a couple of hours. > Well, I > guess I shouldn't be too surprised. Few full feature > internet services are free these days. > > But, to answer your question...no, I wouldn't pay > for a > player and a subscription. You know XM and Sirius > are a > partnership of GM and some other car company.....I > think > it's a lot to pay into the pockets of their > stockholders. > Listen to free radio...or donate to a non-profit, > public > radio station. That's one person's opinion, though. > > > Matt Smallwood > > > > > > On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:54:41 -0000 > "Pat B." <roadmaven@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > does anyone have XM Satellite Radio? Since I'm > growing > > weary of > > stations playing the same 30 songs and the new > oldies > > station playing > > stuff from the 80's (no joking!), I thought I'd > look at > > this as an > > alternative. I've been in the process this winter > of > > restoring ole blue > > (http://circlecitycorvairs.tripod.com/id27.html) > and > > decided to look at > > a new stereo system while the car's in pieces. At > > Mal-Wart, their > > stereos on display are hooked up to XM and that's > what > > caused me to > > look into XM. I especially like the various > > "Decades" channels of music > > they have (40's, 50's, 60's, etc). Any of you had > any > > experience with > > it & if so, is it worth the $12.95/month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest protocol two Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I do not agree with you. Everywhere we go, we are bombarded with advertisements. Even in the movie theatres, before the film begins.........no cartooons....instead we get advertisements. They are loud and annoying and personally, I am tired of them . XM is a nice alternative,the music is tasteful and relaxing (depending on which channel you pick) and well worth the price. As for where the money is going for the subscriptions, our money is always going somewhere...it just wont be to the advertisers this time. thehinge@magpage.com wrote: I've listened to the Cross Country XM station, Pat and that's all that I think would interest me. It's Americana oriented radio. XM used to have a loop that you could listen to free for a couple of hours on the net...but now you have to pay for it after a couple of hours. Well, I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. Few full feature internet services are free these days. But, to answer your question...no, I wouldn't pay for a player and a subscription. You know XM and Sirius are a partnership of GM and some other car company.....I think it's a lot to pay into the pockets of their stockholders. Listen to free radio...or donate to a non-profit, public radio station. That's one person's opinion, though. Matt Smallwood On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:54:41 -0000 "Pat B." wrote: > > > > > does anyone have XM Satellite Radio? Since I'm growing > weary of > stations playing the same 30 songs and the new oldies > station playing > stuff from the 80's (no joking!), I thought I'd look at > this as an > alternative. I've been in the process this winter of > restoring ole blue > (http://circlecitycorvairs.tripod.com/id27.html) and > decided to look at > a new stereo system while the car's in pieces. At > Mal-Wart, their > stereos on display are hooked up to XM and that's what > caused me to > look into XM. I especially like the various > "Decades" channels of music > they have (40's, 50's, 60's, etc). Any of you had any > experience with > it & if so, is it worth the $12.95/month? > > Pat B. > > > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE > 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, > Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message > via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > > Business finance course > > > Business to business finance > > > Small business finance > > > > > Business finance consultant > > > Business finance schools > > > Business finance schools > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the > web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email > to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D Gardner Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 In addition to KRKE in Albuquerque... there's KPSA (Que Pasa?) in Alamogordo (for those in the stretch between Carrizozo, NM and El Paso, TX on Highway 82 ... or when cutting across the desert past White Sands National Monument, Holloman AFB, and over the Oregon Mountains to Las Cruces, NM. In the California Central Central Valley, the HAWK radio--104.7 has a lot of the oldies (and the weird Bob & Tom show during the morning commute hours <between about 5am through 9am> <yeah, I'm on the road during that time... aaargh!>). In Silicon Valley (up and down the Penninsula and along the East Bay and South towards Santa Cruz or Gilroy), there's KKSF FM 103.7 ... they play a lot of cool jazz... Dave Gardner Senior Specialist/Writer-Editor Pacific Consultants Group http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/davidgardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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