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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Lulupic66@... wrote:

 

>

 

> In a message dated 4/23/06 4:36:14 PM Central Daylight Time,

 

> big_ugly_mich@... writes:

 

>

 

>

 

> > I hear it from a fairly reliable source (meaning one I wouldn't risk

 

any

 

> > money betting on it's info, but would get curious enough to ask this

 

> > group) that the movie CARS has a sort of sub theme about getting

 

your

 

> > kicks on Route 66. What do you think?

 

>

 

>

 

> It is based about a fictional town named "Radiator Springs"

 

> The Pixar people spent 2 weeks on RT 66 along with Michael Wallis as

 

their

 

> tour guide.

 

> The premise of the movie is a Nascar vehicle that is not street legal

 

> travels cross country and yes you will see things that are on 66.

 

Michael is doing

 

> the voice of the Sheriff a 49 Mercury I believe,, The voices of Paul

 

Newman (

 

> who brought a clip with him when he was on Jay Leno last week Bonnie

 

Hunt does

 

> a character who persoanlity is loosly based on Dawn Welch who owns the

 

Rock

 

> Cafe in Stroud. Cheech Marin is doing (natch) the voice of a "low

 

rider'

 

> The story is not about the destination but the "journey"

 

> The premiere is going to be at a South Caralina Nascar Track in the

 

very

 

> near future.

 

> It opens nationwide June 9 in a theater near you.

 

> The toys are ready to go. There is going to be tie in with McDonalds.

 

It

 

> looks like I am going to be eating a lot of Happy Meals! LOL

 

> There is also going to be a promotion with Kellegs with the cars being

 

in

 

> the cearel boxes.

 

> It is going to be a really big deal

 

> Hope this helps,

 

> from a very

 

> : "excited"

 

> Lulu

 

 

 

It sure does, but my wife won't believe that anyone knows more about a

 

Disney movie than I do [:-s] [:o)] (That's her on the right. Her

 

clown name is Pockets).

 

 

 

Yenno you could just buy the toy and not have to eat Mickey Dreck's. I

 

do that one from time to time, but I'm still missing Baby from the old

 

Dinosaurs show.

 

 

 

Sure makes me glad to be a Mac user, too. I know Jobs sold Pixar, but

 

still. . .

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Guest Alex Burr

I-80 thru PA, west of Bloomsburg, is booooooooring!!!

 

However, since the only alternatives, east and west,

 

are U S 30 in the south, U S 6 in the north and a

 

hodgepodge of roads, such as 209, 522 and 22 in the

 

middle (not a bad route across either - 522 and 22) if

 

you are in a hurry you're stuck with it - or the

 

Pennsy with it's everlasting construction and repairs.

 

 

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

 

 

--- rudkip@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 

 

 

> I-80 going through PA is beautiful; and though I

 

> would not recommend it over

 

> our beloved Mother Road, I-44 in Missouri has its

 

> moments...Tsingtao Kip

 

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Guest John Sullivan

Regarding the "ghost signage" term, I think I've also heard them described as

 

ghost dogs or wall dogs.

 

 

 

 

 

rudkip@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 

two thoughts:

 

 

 

1) Ugly Road: Quinn's apt description of Interstate highways.

 

2) (maybe already listed) Ghost Signage: fading advertisements painted on

 

buildings, usually brick but any surface will do.

 

 

 

Tsingtao Kip

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Raleigh, North Carolina, USA, Earth

 

 

 

"He rode the fast lane on the road to nowhere."

 

-- Tagline for the film, Five Easy Pieces

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest jim conkle

Hi Pat,

 

 

 

Can you send me via e-mail some photos of the Will Rogers Monument out in

 

front of the museum? I am in need of photos of it and any others that are on

 

the road.

 

 

 

Any roadie out there that has photos of any or all of these monuments please

 

send them to me. We are putting together a marketing program and need to

 

know how many there are, where they are and photos of each of them. This is

 

a joint effort with our foundation, the Will Rogers Museum. Will Rogers

 

Family and the Will Rogers Motion Picture Foundation.

 

 

 

Any information or material on them will also be appreciated.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

CEO

 

Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

Preservation Historic Roads & Corridors

 

P O Box 290066

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

760 617 3991

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

760 868 3320

 

jimconkle@verizon.net

 

www.cart66pf.org

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Guest Forrest Bone

The link is to the pictures of last weekends 9th Annual Gathering of the Tin Can

 

Tourists at Camp Dearborn, Milford, Michigan

 

 

 

http://www.tincantourists.com/photopost/sh...=577&page=5

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net>

Hello:

 

 

 

Pam Reeder sent us this email yesterday:

 

 

 

Greetings!

 

>

 

> I just got the below email forwarded to me from our Main Street

 

> Bristow Director. There is a reduction of funding for Oklahoma

 

> Historicla Society sites from $3.1 million to ONLY $700,000! I see

 

> that among those sites that will feel the hit is the Oklahoma Route

 

> 66, Clinton!

 

>

 

> I'm not sure what action to take on this but feel there must be

 

> something we can do. Suggestions welcome...

 

>

 

> Pam Reeder

 

> Route 66 Cottage

 

> www.Route66Cottage.com

 

>

 

>

 

> From: "Preservation Oklahoma" <preservationok@earthlink.net>

 

> To: <info@preservok.org>

 

> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:14:34 -0500

 

> CC:

 

> Subject: [Main_Street_Towns] OK's Historical Sites funding in

 

> danger - see

 

> list

 

>

 

>

 

> Crisis!

 

>

 

> As of this morning, I have learned that proposed funding for the

 

> Oklahoma Historical Society sites has gone from $3.1m

 

> to......$700,000. This small amount will never cover the years of

 

> deferred maintenance.

 

>

 

> At the bottom of this email -- note sites and location which will be

 

> effected.

 

>

 

> Contact State Representative Chris Benge immediately. He is the

 

> Chair of the Budget and Appropriations committee. He has the

 

> ability to make, or break this deal.

 

>

 

> Tell Representative Benge:

 

> - It imperative that the Oklahoma Historical Society receive the

 

> requested $3.1million.

 

> - These historic sites serve as a tangible reminder of Oklahoma's

 

> history, and also as an economic development tool.

 

> - Please -- we do not want the State to be embarrassed of their

 

> historic properties come the Centennial.

 

>

 

> Representative Chris Benge

 

> (405) 557-7340

 

> chrisbenge@okhouse.gov

 

>

 

> If you have any questions, let me know.

 

>

 

> YOU can make this happen!

 

> Heather Seifert

 

> Preservation Oklahoma

 

>

 

> Oklahoma Historical Society sites

 

> Battle of Honey Springs, Checotah

 

> Black Kettle Museum, Cheyenne

 

> Cherokee Strip Museum, Perry

 

> Chisholm Trail Museum and AJ Seay Mansion, Kingfisher

 

> Fort Gibson

 

> Fort Supply

 

> For Townson

 

> Fort Washita, Durant

 

> Frank Phillips House, Bartlesville

 

> Fred Drummond House, Hominy

 

> George Murrell House, Tahlequah

 

> Healdton Oil Museum, Healdton

 

> Henry Overholser Mansion, Oklahoma City

 

> Jim Thorpe House, Yale

 

> Museum of the Cherokee Strip, Enid

 

> Museum of Higher Education in Historic Old Central, Stillwater

 

> Museum of the Western Prairie, Altus

 

> No Mans Land, Goodwell

 

> Oklahoma Route 66, Clinton

 

> Oklahoma Territorial Museum, Guthrie

 

> State Capital Publishing Museum, Guthrie

 

> Pawnee Bill Ranch, Pawnee

 

> Peter Conser House, Heavener

 

> Pioneer Woman Museum, Ponca City

 

> Sequoia's Cabin, Sallisaw

 

> Sod House, Aline

 

> Spiro Mounds, Spiro

 

> T.B. Ferguson, Watonga

 

> Thomas Foreman House, Muskogee

 

> Tom Mix Museum, Dewey

 

> White Hair Memorial,Ralston

 

>

 

It appears from the article found at the link below that the Oklahoma is

 

about to pass its budget.

 

 

 

http://www.ksbitv.com/hellooklahoma/3063996.html

 

 

 

It appears from the information set forth below from Preservation Oklahoma

 

that several places of historical and cultural import will see their

 

allocations slashed. One of these is the Oklahoma 66 Museum...

 

 

 

This museum is so important to the State of Oklahoma and to travelers along

 

Route 66...it is imperative that we do what we can to help it remain the

 

excellent museum that it is. Write, email or call Representative Benge...

 

 

 

Representative Chris Benge

 

(405) 557-7340

 

chrisbenge@okhouse.gov

 

 

 

for those who wish to put pen to paper:

 

 

 

Representative Chris Benge

 

Oklahoma House of Representatives

 

2300 N. Lincoln, Room 432-D

 

Oklahoma City OK 73105

 

 

 

Also, to the folks in OK, write YOUR representative; if anyone knows any

 

legislators who are sympathetic to the cause, let us know.

 

Here is the website for the Oklahoma House of Representatives:

 

 

 

http://www.okhouse.gov/Members/house.htm

 

 

 

This group helped save the El Vado...we can help the 66 Museum! Please put

 

your pen to paper or your fingers to the keyboard and let the Oklahoma

 

Legislature know that these cuts are going to have a serious impact on Route

 

66 and the State of Oklahoma....thank you for your support...Tsingtao, Kip

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Guest Dave Reese

Welcome Missy,

 

You have come to the right place...I have made so many notes of places I want to

 

travel

 

from this group's collective travels.

 

 

 

Dave Reese

 

Allentown PA

 

Home of Brooklands Speedway and Cherrington Park

 

http://www.geocities.com/brooklandsspeedway

 

http://www.summerharmony.com

 

 

 

Today in Auto History:

 

7.24.1938

 

Dick Seaman, driving a Mercedes-Benz 154 to victory at the German Grand Prix at

 

Nurburgring, Germany, became the first Briton to win a major Grand Prix since

 

Malcolm

 

Campbell did it 15 years earlier. The race turned out to be a showdown between

 

Mercedes--with their driving team of Seaman, Caracciola, von Brauchitsch and

 

Lang; Auto

 

Union--with newly acquired Italian great Tazio Nuvolari; and Alfa--with their

 

team of

 

Tartuffi and Farina.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

 

 

 

 

Looking forward to more great pictures and trips as shared by the

 

group!

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Guest Denny Gibson

It took me a bit longer than two hours (Russell's mouse must corner faster

 

than mine :-) but I enjoyed every minute of it. I had no idea there was a

 

Seedling Mile School and the fresh center and side stripes on the brick

 

section in Nebraska seemed a bit unusual, too. A couple of questions:

 

 

 

Are the four Lincoln Highway mile markers at the Henry Joy markers originals

 

from the road or reproductions?

 

 

 

Is the Ideal Section monument in Dyer on the current US-30? I recall seeing

 

an Ideal Section plaque there but missed the stone monument.

 

 

 

Thanks for sharing,

 

Denny

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Toshio Koshimizu [mailto:t-koshi@nona.dti.ne.jp]

 

Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:26 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Driving Lincoln Highway

 

 

 

 

 

My wife and I drove up all the way of Lincoln Highway from New York

 

to San Francisco on last June.

 

Although we missed several famous landmarks, we could visit and see

 

many landmarks and attractions.

 

We also could find a lot of 1928 Concrete Lincoln Highway Markers.

 

We took thousands of photos. I made slide shows of selection of those

 

photos and posted on the net. URLs are as follows:

 

 

 

* Highlights http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH00Highlights/index.htm

 

* 1928 Markers http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH00Markers/index.htm

 

* NY&NJ http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH01-02NY-NJ/index.htm

 

* PA http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH03PA/index.htm

 

* WV&OH http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH04-05WV-OH/index.htm

 

* IN http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH06IN/index.htm

 

* IL http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH07IL/index.htm

 

* IA(1) http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH08IA1/index.htm

 

* IA(2) http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH08IA2/index.htm

 

* NE(1) http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH09NE1/index.htm

 

* NE(2) http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH09NE2/index.htm

 

* WY(1) http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH10WY1/index.htm

 

* WY(2) http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH10WY2/index.htm

 

* UT http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH11UT/index.htm

 

* NV(1) http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH12NV1/index.htm

 

* NV(2) http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH12NV2/index.htm

 

* CA http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH13CA/index.htm

 

 

 

I would very appreciate if I can hear your comments.

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Guest Kathy Hayes

In May of this year, we travelled mainly off the interstates between

 

Arizona and Ohio on the return of our annual trip from NY to the Grand

 

Canyon.

 

 

 

Some pictures and my blog (written for our family back home with roots

 

in Syracuse, NY) can be seen at the link below. You're welcome to look

 

at the earlier entries, but we didn't get on the back roads much on the

 

way out.

 

 

 

http://www.travelblog.org/North-America/Un...blog-60748.html

 

 

 

http://snipurl.com/tsc4

 

 

 

Kathy

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Just a little something to make you smile today.

 

 

 

 

 

Jim Conkle

 

General Manager

 

The Route 66 Pulse

 

P O Box 290066

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

760 617 3991

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

760 868 3320

 

jconkle@route66pulse.com

 

www.route66pulse.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everything I need to know about life, I learned from Noah's Ark... One:

 

Don't miss the boat. Two: Remember that we are all in the same boat. Three:

 

Plan ahead. It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark. Four: Stay fit. When

 

you're 600 years old, someone may ask you to do something really big. Five:

 

Don't listen to critics; just get on with the job that needs to be done.

 

Six: Build your future on high ground. Seven : For safety sake, travel in

 

pairs. Eight: Speed isn't always an advantage. The snails were on board with

 

the cheetahs. Nine: When you're stressed, float a while. Ten: Remember, the

 

Ark was built by amateurs; the Titanic by professionals. Eleven: No matter

 

the storm, when you are with God, there's always a rainbow waiting. NOW,

 

wasn't that nice? Pass it along and make someone else smile, too. Okay?

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Guest Toshio Koshimizu

Hi Denny,

 

 

 

Thank you.

 

 

 

My answer to your questions are as follows;

 

(1) Four markers at the Henry Joy Memorial

 

I think they should be replicas. The reason is as below mentioned.

 

Original marker usualy has metal plaque of face of Lincoln.

 

These four markers have only concrete plaque instead of metal one.

 

 

 

(2) Ideal Section Monument in Dyer

 

It is on the current US-30. This road has very busy trafic sometimes.

 

To take whole picture of the monument, I had to step on the roadway

 

because there is no sidewalk in front of the monument.

 

First I stopped my car to block the flow of heavy trafic. But I heard

 

horns of the cars behind went off noisily. I had to drive few blocks more

 

and got in a sideroad. I left my wife in the car and walked back to the

 

monument. I took several pictures while the trafic had intermission.

 

 

 

Toshio

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Denny Gibson

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 9:40 PM

 

Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Driving Lincoln Highway

 

 

 

 

 

It took me a bit longer than two hours (Russell's mouse must corner faster

 

than mine :-) but I enjoyed every minute of it. I had no idea there was a

 

Seedling Mile School and the fresh center and side stripes on the brick

 

section in Nebraska seemed a bit unusual, too. A couple of questions:

 

 

 

Are the four Lincoln Highway mile markers at the Henry Joy markers

 

originals

 

from the road or reproductions?

 

 

 

Is the Ideal Section monument in Dyer on the current US-30? I recall

 

seeing

 

an Ideal Section plaque there but missed the stone monument.

 

 

 

Thanks for sharing,

 

Denny

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Toshio Koshimizu [mailto:t-koshi@nona.dti.ne.jp]

 

Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:26 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Driving Lincoln Highway

 

 

 

My wife and I drove up all the way of Lincoln Highway from New York

 

to San Francisco on last June.

 

Although we missed several famous landmarks, we could visit and see

 

many landmarks and attractions.

 

We also could find a lot of 1928 Concrete Lincoln Highway Markers.

 

We took thousands of photos. I made slide shows of selection of those

 

photos and posted on the net. URLs are as follows:

 

 

 

* Highlights http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH00Highlights/index.htm

 

* 1928 Markers http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH00Markers/index.htm

 

* NY&NJ http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH01-02NY-NJ/index.htm

 

* PA http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH03PA/index.htm

 

* WV&OH http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH04-05WV-OH/index.htm

 

* IN http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH06IN/index.htm

 

* IL http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH07IL/index.htm

 

* IA(1) http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH08IA1/index.htm

 

* IA(2) http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH08IA2/index.htm

 

* NE(1) http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH09NE1/index.htm

 

* NE(2) http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH09NE2/index.htm

 

* WY(1) http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH10WY1/index.htm

 

* WY(2) http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH10WY2/index.htm

 

* UT http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH11UT/index.htm

 

* NV(1) http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH12NV1/index.htm

 

* NV(2) http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH12NV2/index.htm

 

* CA http://koshi-net.com/driving/slide/LH13CA/index.htm

 

 

 

I would very appreciate if I can hear your comments.

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Guest laurelrk66@aol.com

In a message dated 1/24/2006 8:56:44 PM Central Standard Time,

 

jabremer66@aol.com writes:

 

 

 

Connecticut fares somewhat better, but different, depending upon

 

what you're looking for. I am not too familiar with the southwestern

 

leg of U.S. 1. Two year, I drove from the aforementioned New York

 

suburbs on my way back to my grandmother's house in Connecticut (I

 

used to live in CT, now I live in Indiana). I did finally get to

 

Stew Leonard's, an interesting grocery/dairy experience - never been

 

there when I lived there! I can't say from Washington to NYC, but I

 

suspect it is going to take a very long time. It is fully developed

 

and probably nothing but traffic lights every mile! I do, however,

 

very much enjoy U.S. 1 in southeastern Connecticut. There are also

 

sections which are full of traffic lights and new commercial

 

development, but there are some very nice, quaint New England

 

seaside things to do and see. I am dying right now, yearning for

 

fried clams from The Clam Castle in Madison, CT:

 

 

 

Having lived for 35 years just a block off U.S. 1 in southwestern

 

Connecticut, I can say that although there are interesting points of interest

 

along the

 

way, you might be more inclined to get frustrated by traffic snarls you'll

 

confront. From the NY border to the RI border, you're never really "out in

 

the country", but instead you're driving through a succession of towns -- some

 

small and some large -- with no distinction between them other than the

 

"Welcome to..." and "You are now leaving...." signs. Excursions slightly off

 

U.S. 1, however, will lead you down to the shore of the Long Island Sound, with

 

some lovely and palatial residential property, and pretty views of the water,

 

beaches, and lighthouses. This whole strip of U.S. 1 shouldn't be navigated

 

without proper maps and guide books. I recommend "The Great American Road

 

Trip: U.S. 1 Maine to Florida" by Peter Genovese and "U.S. 1: America's

 

Original Main Street" by Andrew Malcolm.

 

 

 

Jennifer has very accurately described what you'll see along the way, and I

 

absolutely concur about the craving for fried clams from The Clam Castle!

 

If you have any questions about U.S. 1 in Connecticut, please don't hesitate

 

to email me.

 

 

 

Laurel

 

Afton OK and

 

Tulsa OK

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Guest D Gardner

My wife and I may be driving around in Southern North Carolina this

 

August (when our first grandkid is due... aaargh!)...

 

 

 

And although *I* was there when I was a kid, I'm curious about what

 

stuff is there... the specific location is *LUMBERTON*... just north

 

of the South Carolina border and about 40-50 miles west of the coast.

 

 

 

I'm curious about what the driving is like in that area during that

 

time of the year (is it ridiculously hot/humid? Rainy? Hurricane

 

Season?)

 

 

 

Good restaurants/places to stay near that area? (They don't

 

necessarily have to be in Lumberton--any of the surrounding areas

 

would be fine.)

 

 

 

We Googled and Yahoo'd North Carolina and Lumberton--and got all

 

sorts of information--but I'd prefer to get the *real* scoop from

 

the group--rather than from the PR and tourist-trap folks <grin>.

 

 

 

Thanks...

 

 

 

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Hi David,

 

 

 

First of all, if you can go to The Outer Banks in North Carolina .... You

 

and the family will have a most enjoyable time....do a Google search for

 

Southern Shores Reality....they manage many homes in the area. It's a fun

 

spot. First, you are right in the heart of the Kitty Hawk area.....lots of

 

kite flying and hang gliding on gentle dunes. Be sure to go visit Duck,

 

NC....a very quaint area. From this area you can embark on numerous fun

 

day-trips.....and you can also visit Cape Hatteras.....lots of opps to fish,

 

play golf, tour, or just lounge on the beach and be lazy. Good surf casting,

 

too!

 

 

 

Once you visit this area.....you'll go back.....the weather is very

 

nice.....

 

 

 

My Best,

 

 

 

Chet Nichols

 

Creative Director/Producer/Writer

 

Magic Garage Productions

 

chetnichols@aol.com

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/25/06 10:46 AM, "D Gardner" <dgardner1@comcast.net> wrote:

 

 

 

> My wife and I may be driving around in Southern North Carolina this

 

> August (when our first grandkid is due... aaargh!)...

 

>

 

> And although *I* was there when I was a kid, I'm curious about what

 

> stuff is there... the specific location is *LUMBERTON*... just north

 

> of the South Carolina border and about 40-50 miles west of the coast.

 

>

 

> I'm curious about what the driving is like in that area during that

 

> time of the year (is it ridiculously hot/humid? Rainy? Hurricane

 

> Season?)

 

>

 

> Good restaurants/places to stay near that area? (They don't

 

> necessarily have to be in Lumberton--any of the surrounding areas

 

> would be fine.)

 

>

 

> We Googled and Yahoo'd North Carolina and Lumberton--and got all

 

> sorts of information--but I'd prefer to get the *real* scoop from

 

> the group--rather than from the PR and tourist-trap folks <grin>.

 

>

 

> Thanks...

 

>

 

> Dave Gardner

 

> Senior Specialist/Writer-Editor

 

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Thanks Chet!

 

 

 

I'll do some more research and see what comes up! (Might be too busy

 

with the grandkid and my son to do much sightseeing--but I figure if

 

we're coming all the way across the country <and my wife has *never*

 

been that far east in the US>, we might as well *see* what's there!)

 

 

 

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Chet Nichols II

 

<Chetnichols@a...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Hi David,

 

>

 

> First of all, if you can go to The Outer Banks in North

 

Carolina .... You

 

> and the family will have a most enjoyable time....do a Google

 

search for

 

> Southern Shores Reality....they manage many homes in the area.

 

It's a fun

 

> spot. First, you are right in the heart of the Kitty Hawk

 

area.....lots of

 

> kite flying and hang gliding on gentle dunes. Be sure to go visit

 

Duck,

 

> NC....a very quaint area. From this area you can embark on

 

numerous fun

 

> day-trips.....and you can also visit Cape Hatteras.....lots of

 

opps to fish,

 

> play golf, tour, or just lounge on the beach and be lazy. Good

 

surf casting,

 

> too!

 

>

 

> Once you visit this area.....you'll go back.....the weather is very

 

> nice.....

 

>

 

> My Best,

 

>

 

> Chet Nichols

 

> Creative Director/Producer/Writer

 

> Magic Garage Productions

 

> chetnichols@a...

 

>

 

>

 

> On 1/25/06 10:46 AM, "D Gardner" <dgardner1@c...> wrote:

 

>

 

> > My wife and I may be driving around in Southern North Carolina

 

this

 

> > August (when our first grandkid is due... aaargh!)...

 

> >

 

> > And although *I* was there when I was a kid, I'm curious about

 

what

 

> > stuff is there... the specific location is *LUMBERTON*... just

 

north

 

> > of the South Carolina border and about 40-50 miles west of the

 

coast.

 

> >

 

> > I'm curious about what the driving is like in that area during

 

that

 

> > time of the year (is it ridiculously hot/humid? Rainy? Hurricane

 

> > Season?)

 

> >

 

> > Good restaurants/places to stay near that area? (They don't

 

> > necessarily have to be in Lumberton--any of the surrounding areas

 

> > would be fine.)

 

> >

 

> > We Googled and Yahoo'd North Carolina and Lumberton--and got all

 

> > sorts of information--but I'd prefer to get the *real* scoop from

 

> > the group--rather than from the PR and tourist-trap folks <grin>.

 

> >

 

> > Thanks...

 

> >

 

> > Dave Gardner

 

> > Senior Specialist/Writer-Editor

 

> > Pacific Consultants Group

 

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Hello everyone,

 

 

 

I was wondering if anyone has had a chance to stay at the former

 

Harvey House La Posada Hotel at Winslow Arizona? Is it a pleasant

 

stay? Affordable? I was thinking of taking a small vacation in the

 

area and thought the La Posada hotel might be a good idea.

 

 

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Alex

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GRAT PLACE JEFF

 

 

 

-------------- Original message --------------

 

From: "Alex" <designkat@hotmail.com>

 

 

 

> Hello everyone,

 

>

 

> I was wondering if anyone has had a chance to stay at the former

 

> Harvey House La Posada Hotel at Winslow Arizona? Is it a pleasant

 

> stay? Affordable? I was thinking of taking a small vacation in the

 

> area and thought the La Posada hotel might be a good idea.

 

>

 

> Thanks in advance,

 

> Alex

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

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Hi Alex,

 

We've driven by it... it seemed okay... have never stopped there.

 

 

 

Winslow is the home of the huge meteor crater.. you can get there off

 

Highway I-40... and can drive to the rim and the visitor's center. An

 

awesome sight.

 

 

 

You can tune in to certain AM radio stations while driving in that

 

area and enjoy listening to the Navajo and Hopi languages being spoken

 

in advertising <"Bring a sheep to Big-O Tires in Winslow and get a

 

free balancing and alignment with your tire purchase!"--not kidding,

 

we actually heard this one in Navajo *and* English while driving

 

through the area from Albuquerque to Flagstaff> between the popular

 

music ... Celine Dion, BackStreet Boys, Britney Spears, and so on....

 

the language has a fascinating sound and it's cool to hear the guests

 

on the talk shows scattered between the music runs speaking in Navajo

 

and Hopi... it really brings to reality the Navajo/Hopi *Code-Talkers*

 

who saved our butts in the Pacific during WWII.. my dad was on an LST

 

that visited Guam, Iwo Jima, Guadalcanal, Palau, Truk, Okinawa,

 

Tinian, Saipan, and the Philippines... and he really appreciated the

 

Code-talkers serving with our Marines there... (For more on this, you

 

can watch the movie starring Nicholas Cage..."Windtalkers")

 

 

 

Have a good trip!

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Dave Gardner

 

Senior Specialist/Writer-Editor

 

Pacific Consultants Group

 

http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/davidgardner

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Alex" <designkat@h...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Hello everyone,

 

>

 

> I was wondering if anyone has had a chance to stay at the former

 

> Harvey House La Posada Hotel at Winslow Arizona? Is it a pleasant

 

> stay? Affordable? I was thinking of taking a small vacation in the

 

> area and thought the La Posada hotel might be a good idea.

 

>

 

> Thanks in advance,

 

> Alex

 

>

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Pleasant? Absolutely. Wonderfully restored and furnished. Affordable? Around

 

$100/night.

 

 

 

It's a bit over my normal road trip budget but it seems like a bargain. A

 

great restaurant, too.

 

 

 

Their web site:

 

http://www.laposada.org/

 

plus my own pix & chatter from my stay last September:

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/rt66fest05/day0...ex.htm#section7

 

and:

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/rt66fest05/day0...ex.htm#section1

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: Alex [mailto:designkat@hotmail.com]

 

> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:06 PM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Question about La Posada Hotel

 

>

 

> Hello everyone,

 

>

 

> I was wondering if anyone has had a chance to stay at the

 

> former Harvey House La Posada Hotel at Winslow Arizona? Is

 

> it a pleasant stay? Affordable? I was thinking of taking a

 

> small vacation in the area and thought the La Posada hotel

 

> might be a good idea.

 

>

 

> Thanks in advance,

 

> Alex

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Scott,

 

 

 

As I'm a member of the National Parks Conservation Association, and they are

 

quite vocal about not letting buildings of any kind encroach onto or near

 

National Park property, I am somewhat familiar with this situation. There are a

 

few other Civil War battlefields that are in the process of being swallowed up

 

by "creeping suburbia".

 

 

 

I have no problem with casinos, just the placement of them. There should be

 

more than enough room to put a casino, a Wal-Mart, a Walgreens, or any number of

 

other commercial establishments in places where they can make a profit without

 

being across the street or right next to a historic site.

 

 

 

This is a big country and there should be enough spare to go around to keep

 

everyone happy.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:17 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Gettysburg Casino

 

 

 

 

 

I am wondering who on this list beside me has been following (or

 

been involved in) the struggle within the city of Gettysburg,

 

Pennsylvania, over a proposed casino within the city limits. The

 

proposed location would be just outside the area of the Gettysburg

 

Battlefield and alongside US-30, so this is definitely an historic

 

roads issue.

 

 

 

I've been following the issue as well as I can from a couple of

 

thousands of miles away, and have been interested in reading both

 

sides of the argument. I think that the most interesting thing that

 

I have seen is the sheer number of politicians who have come out

 

against the casino being located in Gettysburg, despite those same

 

politicians voting in favor of allowing casinos in Pennsylvania.

 

 

 

I'm curious to hear what others on this list think of this issue,

 

and who around the Gettysburg area might be either involved in this

 

issue already or interested in getting involved in it. I personally

 

have been lending my information and knowledge to the No Casino

 

Gettysburg (www.nocasinogettysburg.com) organization for a couple of

 

days now, as best as I can. But I think that Brian Butko and the

 

Pennyslvania chapter of the Lincoln Highway Association should both

 

get involved, if they are not already. I've also recommended to

 

coalition that they send a representative to the Historic Roads

 

Conference in Boston in April, too, just to mingle with the historic

 

roads people and perhaps persuade more of us to join their cause.

 

 

 

More information on this issue can be found at the Historic Roads

 

Preservation group, and will be put up on my website sometime today

 

in the news section.

 

 

 

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I'll concur with Denny. There are definitely cheaper rooms to be

 

had in northeastern Arizona. But the La Posada is a beautiful

 

place, wonderfully restored. It's the kind of place that I

 

encourage everyone who can afford to do so to stay at, just to

 

support the owners who have cared enough about history to try to

 

restore and preserve a small slice of it.

 

 

 

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...>

 

wrote:

 

>

 

> Pleasant? Absolutely. Wonderfully restored and furnished.

 

Affordable? Around

 

> $100/night.

 

>

 

> It's a bit over my normal road trip budget but it seems like a

 

bargain. A

 

> great restaurant, too.

 

>

 

> Their web site:

 

> http://www.laposada.org/

 

> plus my own pix & chatter from my stay last September:

 

> http://www.dennygibson.com/rt66fest05/day0...ex.htm#section7

 

> and:

 

> http://www.dennygibson.com/rt66fest05/day0...ex.htm#section1

 

>

 

> --Denny

 

>

 

> > -----Original Message-----

 

> > From: Alex [mailto:designkat@h...]

 

> > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:06 PM

 

> > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Question about La Posada Hotel

 

> >

 

> > Hello everyone,

 

> >

 

> > I was wondering if anyone has had a chance to stay at the

 

> > former Harvey House La Posada Hotel at Winslow Arizona? Is

 

> > it a pleasant stay? Affordable? I was thinking of taking a

 

> > small vacation in the area and thought the La Posada hotel

 

> > might be a good idea.

 

> >

 

> > Thanks in advance,

 

> > Alex

 

>

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If you get a chance, go to the ultimate Tourist Trap, South of the

 

Border, just south of the NC-SC state line.

 

 

 

Definitely check out any place serving that great eastern North

 

Carolina pit-cooked barbeque. It is pulled pork served in a

 

vinegar base. This is not your standard bbq. Order up some melt-in-

 

your mouth hushpuppies, cole slaw, and wash it down with sweet tea.

 

 

 

While on the subject of food, stop by Paul's Famous Hotdogs outside

 

of Wilmington on I-40 and the original location on US 117. The

 

relish is outstanding.

 

 

 

Also, there is a little town on the coast between NC and SC called

 

Calabash. To my reckoning, this is the best shrimp I've ever had.

 

 

 

Wilmington is a beautiful city with lots of historic sites,

 

including the battleship North Carolina.

 

 

 

For the Sound of the South, check out some Beach Music There

 

is a station in Myrtle Beach called the Wave that plays it and a

 

station on the internet called Endless Summer if you'd like to

 

sample it before you go.

 

 

 

Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "D Gardner" <dgardner1@c...>

 

wrote:

 

>

 

> My wife and I may be driving around in Southern North Carolina

 

this

 

> August (when our first grandkid is due... aaargh!)...

 

>

 

> And although *I* was there when I was a kid, I'm curious about

 

what

 

> stuff is there... the specific location is *LUMBERTON*... just

 

north

 

> of the South Carolina border and about 40-50 miles west of the

 

coast.

 

>

 

> I'm curious about what the driving is like in that area during

 

that

 

> time of the year (is it ridiculously hot/humid? Rainy? Hurricane

 

> Season?)

 

>

 

> Good restaurants/places to stay near that area? (They don't

 

> necessarily have to be in Lumberton--any of the surrounding areas

 

> would be fine.)

 

>

 

> We Googled and Yahoo'd North Carolina and Lumberton--and got all

 

> sorts of information--but I'd prefer to get the *real* scoop from

 

> the group--rather than from the PR and tourist-trap folks <grin>.

 

>

 

> Thanks...

 

>

 

> Dave Gardner

 

> Senior Specialist/Writer-Editor

 

> Pacific Consultants Group

 

> http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/davidgardner

 

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January 26th marks the 50th anniversary of of President Eisenhower's

 

speech before the US Congress requesting the largest public works

 

effort in US history.

 

 

 

After an experience in 1919, where he took an army convoy from

 

Washington, DC, to San Francisco that took 62 days, and seeing the

 

efficiency of Germany's autobahn, Eisenhower decided it was time to

 

create the Interstate System.

 

 

 

I am now a dedicated two-laner, but I would hate to think of how bad

 

things would be without the interstates. The thought of all that

 

traffic on the old roads is beyond comprehension.

 

 

 

On June 29, Congress passed the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956 and

 

earmarked $50 billion for its creation.

 

 

 

The first interstate to be built using interstate funds was I-70 in

 

St. Charles County, outside of St. Louis. It replaced part of the

 

Rt 66 bypass. This was actually the first to begin construction.

 

Today, there is a marker at the site saying this is the beginning of

 

the US interstate system.

 

 

 

To check out an excellent site, go to:

 

 

 

http://www.aiada.org/article.asp?id=56619

 

 

 

So, a big happy birthday to the US interstate system.

 

 

 

Keep on Down that Big Ol' Highway. -- RaoDog

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In a message dated 1/25/06 5:46:41 PM Central Standard Time,

 

rt66prods@yahoo.com writes:

 

 

 

 

 

> I was wondering if anyone has had a chance to stay at the

 

> > > former Harvey House La Posada Hotel at Winslow Arizona? Is

 

> > > it a pleasant stay? Affordable? I was thinking of taking a

 

> > > small vacation in the area and thought the La Posada hotel

 

> > > might be a good idea.

 

>

 

 

 

I have had the oppurtunity to stay there several times, that atmosphere is

 

WONDERFUL!

 

A "head''s up" here. For those who don't know...... La Pasada was an

 

overnight/rest stop on the Sante Fe line.

 

There are still very active tracks behind the building which actually is

 

the front. As passengers would debark, they enterend the "front" of the Hotel.

 

If you are a light sleeper, this isn't the place for you to stay. As I

 

overnighted there I was up late as usual writing in my journal. Somehere someone

 

was burnng wood and that wonderful smell came wafting thru the room. Then in

 

the distance and getting louder, approching the hotel I could hear the loud,

 

methodic sounds of the wheels hitting the tracks. It was very soothing for me, a

 

light sleeper probably wouldn't get very much sleep.. I marked everytime a

 

train went by a kept track " no pun intended" LOL A train came thru every 20

 

minutes! I enjoyed it!

 

Lulu

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In a message dated 2/18/06 8:04:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,

 

denny@dennygibson.com writes:

 

In fact, I found a

 

statement that Bethesda "was connected to the National Old Trails Road by a

 

spur" which doesn't help at all with the Madonna question

 

====================================================================

 

The National Road was US 40. It went across Maryland through Cumberland,

 

Hagerstown, Frederick and Baltimore.

 

 

 

The spur to Washington was US 240. It diverged from 40 at Frederick and went

 

into Washington. The Madonna was right on it. 240 was renumbered Maryland 355

 

in the late sixties. But most people call it Wisconsin Avenue.

 

 

 

Tom Hoffman

 

Pearisburg VA

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