Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 I contacted the folks on the KoKo sign this a.m. ..I told the guy (Lynn Rowe) I would get back to him in a couple of days...they want $500.00 for the sign...the sign is approx 15' horizontal and approx 7' vertical according to Mr. Rowe...they will do their best to keep the neon on the sign intact...at this point, if people wish to donate towards the purchase of this sign, please do so (we owe you a good news update on the Stanley signs, which will be coming after I clank this out). As with the Stanley signs, make your donations payable to Friends of the Mother Road, and on the memo line put "KoKo Motel sign". There is another big issue--where to put it and how to get it there. David (or anybody else), if you have any inspiration on that front, let us know...I talked to the folks at the Joplin Museum Complex, and they don't have any place to put it or store it. I am going to contact Tommy Pike with the Missouri Association about that. Finally, I promised Mr. Rowe I would let folks know that they have LOTS of rock from the KoKo that they are trying to sell. If you are interested feel free to contact Lynn Rowe at 417-439-5991. Hopefully, we can save another sign for Route 66! Thanks again for your interest and inspiration. Kip Welborn, Friends of the Mother Road. ----- Original Message ----- From: David To: route66@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:06 PM Subject: [route66] Koko Motel sign - we have 48 hours OK, here I am in Joplin The Koko Motel sign is still there, but not for long. The man selling it is the contractor who took down the old motel. He was not there, but I left a message with his assistant that we were still interested in it. According to the assistant, we have MAYBE 2 days to get the sign. They are wanting to take it down today or tomorrow and get it out of there. So please call one of the 2 phone numbers you have for the sign ASAP!! The Koko is being replaced by a new chain motel... they didn't know the brand. Anyway, that's what I found out. I'm "borrowing" time on the library computers so I have to be signing off soon. To sum it up: the Koko sign is still there, but we have 1-2 days to save it. David aka US71 Get your kicks on the Route 66 Mailing List! You can find our homepage at- http://www.westgoenterprises.com/66/index.html Questions about this list - "route66-owner@yahoogroups.com" To Subscribe - send an eMail to "route66-subscribe@yahoogroups.com" TO UNSUBSCRIBE - send an eMail to "route66-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Get unlimited calls to U.S./Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/route66/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: route66-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 I am happy to report that, with your help, the Stanley signs and the Lin Air Motel signs have been purchased. At this point we are in contact with a couple of places to store and display the signs. As we need to move the signs by December 1, I hope to have a report on where they are going in due haste. Again, thanks to all of you who have assisted in our preservation efforts and hopefully we can continue to save those reminders of Route 66 for future generations....thanks again! Kip Welborn, Friends of the Mother Road, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Ah! So the subject has turned to curvy roads, eh? Tennessee just may have the prize on this one. US 129 between the southern end of the Foothills Parkway and Deal's Gap on the North Carolina line has over 300 curves in an 11 mile stretch. Bikers come from all over the place to ride what they call "the dragon's tail". I've driven it a couple of times and it's the only road where I've had any problem (minor, thankfully) with car sickness. Any challengers out there for the title of curviest road? I'd love to hear about them:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Ross Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Pat, Very nice photos. That is an awesome piece of work. How about some more details, such as why it was built and whether it is still in use? Jim R. ----- Original Message ----- From: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 4:45 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Digest Number 31 > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > There is 1 message in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Road trips/Photos/Files > From: "roadmaven <>" <roadmaven@aol.com> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 04:18:03 -0000 > From: "roadmaven <>" <roadmaven@aol.com> > Subject: Road trips/Photos/Files > > Season's Greetings all! Jennifer & I spent Christmas afternoon taking > a quick road trip on ye old National Road/US 40/Route 40/Old National > Trails Highway...or as we simply call it here: 40. We turned it into > a nice little 70 mile venture from Indianapolis to Terre Haute. It > was quite a picturesque trip, as central Indiana received a nice 7" > layer of snow overnight. > > Since this list is about roads and the various sights alongside them, > I want to encourage everyone to submit to the list some of your best > road pics. To accomplish this, simply go to our website at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/ From there, you can post > them in the Files section or the Photos section. > > I'll get the ball rolling by posting in the Photos section a file > called Tulip Trestle. This thing is a well-kept secret even here in > Indiana. Tulip Trestle is a 2,295 foot, 157 foot tall structure that > rolls through a valley in the hills about 30 miles southwest of > Bloomington, IN. It took a little over a year to assemble the 2,856 > tons of steel, which was completed in December 1906. It is owned by > the Indiana Railroad company and is still in use. Unless you witness > this beast in person, you can't totally appreciate what an awesome > structure this is. But what's even better about seeing it is the > twisty, hilly 2-laners you have to take to see it! Remember, you have > to go to the Yahoo Groups website to view. Enjoy! > > Pat Bremer, List Maven > Speedway, IN > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roadmaven Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 After doing some more research on the internet, I found three excellent photos. The links are: http://home.insightbb.com/~aronham1/hlcxtulip.jpg http://home.insightbb.com/~aronham1/tulip-...ip-in-02-03-02- l.jpg http://home.insightbb.com/~aronham1/trestle1.jpg These photos give an excellent view of its entire length. I've yet to see a train cross it the two times I've been down there, but as you can see from the first link it's very much in use. One site I found claimed laborers were paid 15 cents an hour when it was built in 1906. Apparently the Indiana Railroad Company has about five trains crossing it daily, at a pace of 10-15mph. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jenniferrt66 Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Reynolds" <roustabout@s...> wrote: > Ah! So the subject has turned to curvy roads, eh? Tennessee > just may have the prize on this one. US 129 between the southern > end of the Foothills Parkway and Deal's Gap on the North Carolina > line has over 300 curves in an 11 mile stretch. Bikers come from > all over the place to ride what they call "the dragon's tail". > > I've driven it a couple of times and it's the only road where > I've had any problem (minor, thankfully) with car sickness. > > Any challengers out there for the title of curviest road? I'd > love to hear about them:) That sounds like a great ride! I guess Oatman Road (Route 66) can't quite compete with that, but it is a contender anyway. It's still curvy and treacherous in it's own right and a great road to travel. I checked Microsoft Streets and Trips to view Oatman Road between Sitgreaves Pass and Oatman, where I marked two points 8.8 miles apart and I counted about 34 curves. Here's a picture: http://www.roadtripmemories.com/graphics/rtm/oatmanroad.JPG I used TinyURL in case the above link appears broken: http://tinyurl.com/z6jx Jennifer Bremer American Road List Co-Host http://www.roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roadmaven Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 I noticed one of the links didn't do what it was supposed to. So here's the link to the site with all three pics: http://home.insightbb.com/~aronham1/tulip_trestle.htm Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jenniferrt66 Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Reynolds" <roustabout@s...> wrote: > Ah! So the subject has turned to curvy roads, eh? Tennessee > just may have the prize on this one. US 129 between the southern > end of the Foothills Parkway and Deal's Gap on the North Carolina > line has over 300 curves in an 11 mile stretch. Bikers come from > all over the place to ride what they call "the dragon's tail". > > I've driven it a couple of times and it's the only road where > I've had any problem (minor, thankfully) with car sickness. > > Any challengers out there for the title of curviest road? I'd > love to hear about them:) Here's a map of the area for anyone interested: http://www.roadtripmemories.com/graphics/rtm/us129.JPG Or a TinyURL version of the same link: http://tinyurl.com/z6lm Jennifer Bremer American Road List Co-Host http://www.roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Then there's U S 40 west of Denver headed up thru Berthoud Pass............ Hudsonly, Alex B --- jenniferrt66 <jabremer66@aol.com> wrote: > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Reynolds" > > <roustabout@s...> wrote: > > Ah! So the subject has turned to curvy > roads, eh? Tennessee > > just may have the prize on this one. US 129 > between the southern > > end of the Foothills Parkway and Deal's Gap on the > North Carolina > > line has over 300 curves in an 11 mile stretch. > Bikers come from > > all over the place to ride what they call "the > dragon's tail". > > > > I've driven it a couple of times and it's the > only road where > > I've had any problem (minor, thankfully) with car > sickness. > > > > Any challengers out there for the title of > curviest road? I'd > > love to hear about them:) > > > Here's a map of the area for anyone interested: > > http://www.roadtripmemories.com/graphics/rtm/us129.JPG > > Or a TinyURL version of the same link: > > http://tinyurl.com/z6lm > > Jennifer Bremer > American Road List Co-Host > http://www.roadtripmemories.com > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Let me get off the train and walk across the 2,000 + gap!!!!!!!! I pick up the train on the other side. Hudsonly, Alex Burr --- "roadmaven <roadmaven@aol.com>" <roadmaven@aol.com> wrote: > After doing some more research on the > internet, I found three > excellent photos. The links are: > > http://home.insightbb.com/~aronham1/hlcxtulip.jpg > > http://home.insightbb.com/~aronham1/tulip-...ip-in-02-03-02- > l.jpg > > http://home.insightbb.com/~aronham1/trestle1.jpg > > These photos give an excellent view of its > entire length. I've yet to > see a train cross it the two times I've been > down there, but as you > can see from the first link it's very much in > use. One site I found > claimed laborers were paid 15 cents an hour > when it was built in > 1906. Apparently the Indiana Railroad Company > has about five trains > crossing it daily, at a pace of 10-15mph. > > Pat > > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box > 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email > to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ===== "We has met the enemy, and he is us" - Pogo Possum __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...> wrote: > Then there's U S 40 west of Denver headed up thru > Berthoud Pass............ > > Hudsonly, > Alex B > I've driven that road and it's a dandy:) But the Dragon's Tail is unrelenting. One tight curve right after another for 11 miles. It's a bit like giant slalom in an automobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Hope you all appreciate the chuckle! How Many Forum Members Does it Take to Change a Light Bulb? 1 to change the light bulb then post about it 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could've been changed differently 1 to move it to the Lighting folder 2 to argue and then move it to the Electrical folder 7 to point out grammar/spelling errors in post about changing light bulbs 5 to flame the spell checkers 3 to correct spelling/grammar flames 6 to argue whether it's a light bulb or lightbulb 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper tern is Lamp 15 know it all who claim they were in the industry, and that "light bulb is perfectly correct 19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take the discussion to the lightbulb forum 11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum 36 to discuss the dangers of changing light bulbs without a professional opinion 5 to post a disclaimer that they are not light bulb experts, nor do they play one on TV and that anyone planning on changing their own light bulb should consult a professional 7 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs 4 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly and then to post the correct URLs 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group 13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add, "Me too." 5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy 4 to say, "Didn't we go through this already a short time ago?" 13 to say, "Do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs." 1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rwarn17588 Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Reynolds" <roustabout@s...> wrote: > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...> > wrote: > > Then there's U S 40 west of Denver headed up thru > > Berthoud Pass............ > > > > Hudsonly, > > Alex B > > > I'm not sure this is still driveable, even with a monster SUV, but La Bajada Hill north of Albuquerque has to be a contender. Old 66 there has 23 hairpin curves in a little more than two miles. Emily and I elected to hike it instead of driving it. It was a bit tiring in 95- degree heat, but it offers hellacious views. We left there just in time, too. A thunderstorm rumbled through less than two hours after we left. Some other favorites for fun, curvy driving: -- The road that goes through the Smoky Mountain National Park. -- The road that goes through the Badlands park. -- Lower Terre Haute Road in far eastern Illinois. -- Just about any road you find in Jo Daviess County in northwestern Illinois. -- That scary ascent up the mountain on Highway 104 northwest of Tucumcari, leading to Las Vegas, N.M. Ron Warnick Belleville, IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest big_ugly_mich@yahoo.com Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 I could show you several on other highways, but they're all closed. One, you would still recognise as a Stuckey's, but it's obviously gone. That's one thing I like about old highways. You still can visit old mom-and-pops, general stores, and the like. McDonald's is fine, but one's the same as the other. I'm not the sort you'll see on Fear Factor, but I like adventures. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Rudyard Welborn" <r.Welborn@w...> wrote: > Really cool trip--I have a recollection that somewhere along 68 in the part > of the country you were trekkin there was a Stuckeys; it sat right on the > side of the road...did you come across one? Tsingtao, Kip > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Reynolds" <roustabout@s...> > To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 7:40 PM > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Cruisin' The Bluegrass (long) > > > Well, here?¦s the write up from November?¦s day trip in > Kentucky. The same situation applies as last time. The photos are > in the ?§BabyBoomerBob?? folder. > > CRUISIN?¦ THE BLUEGRASS > > Back in November I took a weekend to go visit with my good > friend Kevin Redden in Maysville, Kentucky. Susan didn?¦t make this > one with me so it was something of a ?§boys?¦ weekend out??f? Kevin > lives on Lexington Pike, a road that winds gracefully through an > older residential neighborhood, down the Ohio River bluffs to > downtown Maysville. It?¦s almost certainly an older alignment of US > 62-68, but considering the name the locals give it, it?¦s very likely > much older than the US highway system. They call it the Buffalo > Trace. > > We headed out Saturday morning toward Paris, checking out > old alignments of US 68 as we went. The first stop was Washington, > KY <Washington01-05>. I think this is the oldest town in the > state. It was founded in 1786 (just 10 years after Fort > Boonesborough) by local pioneer Simon Kenton. Since the main > highway passes it by, there is only local and tourist traffic easing > through town. We parked on the side of Main Street and walked > around, shooting pictures and enjoying the early morning solitude. > Kevin pointed out several old metal water pumps <Washington02> and > the oldest post office west of the Alleghenies <Washington04>. > > I sighed as I stood in front of the site of the Broderick > Tavern, an early 19th century tavern and inn that had burned a > couple of years ago. Kevin, Susan and I ate there once, and it was > there that I first had the local dish known as hot brown. You take > toast, add white gravy, ham, and turkey, then cover with melted > cheddar cheese. Little did I know then that before the day was > over, I?¦d have hot brown like I?¦d never had it beforef?. A new > foundation was already in place, so something is going to be built > on the site. Luckily, knowing Washington, it won?¦t be a McDonald?¦sf? > > The last thing I did in Washington was to take pictures of > the original split between US 62 and 68 <Washington 06>, then a shot > down old 62 to the present split <Washington 07>. In the latter > picture, 68 goes left and right, and 62 goes right and straight > ahead. > > We proceeded down US 68, making the occasional detour to > check out old alignments until we came to Blue Licks, where we > stopped to take pictures of the old Licking River bridge > (BlueLick01, 02> > > We had hoped to get breakfast at Bridget?¦s Kitchen in > Millersburg, but when we got there the place had gone underf? We > paused long enough to take a picture of the stump of the old road > through town and a railroad bridge over Hinkston Creek. > > On to Paris and breakfast. There?¦s really only one place in > Paris to eat for us and that?¦s Louie?¦s. It?¦s kind of out of the > way, which means not many tourists show up there. Nice and quiet > with lots of horse racing atmosphere <Louie?¦s01-03>. > > We set out south on KY 627 driving through gently rolling > horse country. It was my intention to follow former US 227 (Now KY > 627 and 388) to Richmond, then up US 25 to Clay?¦s Ferry. The best > laid schemes a?¦ mice and men?K > > Our next stop was Fort Boonesborough State Park. We wanted > to see the original site, plus the replica of the fort, so we > followed the signs directing us onto a smaller road down to the main > part of the park. I winced as we passed the campground. Susan and > I had a rough time camping here 20 some odd years ago. All the good > spots were in the RV site. Tent campers (like us) had to settle for > mud flats near the river, with about 3 inches of mud covering the > bedrock. No place to drive stakesf? How we managed to keep our tent > up I can?¦t recall. > > Kevin and I strolled around the original site of the fort > <Boonesborough01> for a while, then went on down the road looking > for the replica. After driving a while, we figured it was back on > KY 627, so we headed back, after promising to explore this road next > time. It seemed like a pretty neat drive. > > We soon found the replica <Boonesborough02> and spent half > an hour or so checking it out. Nice and educational for the kids, > but nothing terribly spectacular. So off we headed south, looking > for KY 388. But when we reached the I-75 interchange I realized I?¦d > missed the turnf? So we went on to US 25, then drove south to > Richmond, .figuring to find the southern end of 388 there. No such > luckf? > > I decided to forego 388 and head back to Clay?¦s Ferry. We > found the bypass south of town and were heading north when I spotted > a sign ?§TO 388?? pointing to the right. Now my curiosity was up, so > I followed the road to its intersection with 388. Back to Richmond > we went, discovering the southern end of 388 wasn?¦t signed. Oh > well. So we returned to the bypass and followed the sign to 388, > heading north this timef? I was determined to drive 388 no matter > how many pieces I took it inf? > > The further north we drove the more things started looking > familiar. Well, sure enough when we passed the Ft. Boonesborough > campground, I realized we were back where we had started fromf? Had > we not turned around to find the replica fort we would have wound up > in Richmond the way I had plannedf? We had a good laugh over that one > f? > > By this time Kevin and I were looking for a place to get > lunch. There was a sign advertising a place on the Kentucky River > called ?§Halls on the River??, so we picked up KY 418 and stopped for > lunch <Halls>. The restaurant is on the site of Holder?¦s Tavern, an > old inn established in 1783. We sat down and I ordered hot brown. > Well, when it came, my eyes bugged out! The portion was enormous! > And the melted cheddar didn?¦t just cover the meat, it covered the > entire plate! I gave part of it to Kevin, but still ate so much I > didn?¦t want dessertf? I?¦m the kind of guy who doesn?¦t believe > there?¦s any such thing as ?§too much cheese??. But that day I *did* > have ?§enough??f? > > All plans to approach Clay?¦s Ferry from the south were out > the window now, so we continued on KY 418 in the direction of > Lexington (where the bourbon is strong, the horses are good looking, > and all the basketball players are above averagef?).At Athens we > headed south on KY 1973 (Note: Kentucky highways with four digit > numbers are secondary roads). We soon came to US 25 and headed > south to the Clay?¦s Ferry Bridge. > > The history of this bridge is interesting. It began as a > two lane bridge for US 25-421 in 1946. Over the years it has been > expanded to its present six lanes and its incorporation into I-75. > (For more information and some professional quality photos check out > http://www.kentuckyroads.com/images/claysferry/ ). It?¦s an > impressive structure leaping the gorge of the Kentucky River. > However?K. > > Down in the gorge where nobody crossing on the interstate > can see, there?¦s a little gem. The pre-1946 bridge. 1869 vintage. > One lane. Wrought iron. In great shape! And it was *this* bridge > I?¦d come to see <Clay?¦s Ferry 01, 02>. We stopped by the remains of > a defunct honky tonk and I scrambled down to the river bank for a > photo op. As I drove across the bridge, the tires singing on the > metal grate beneath, I tried to imagine what it was like when this > was the main bridge between Lexington and points south. There must > have been a major bottleneck here. This stretch of 25 was part of > the eastern trunk of the Dixie Highway back then, so the traffic > couldn?¦t have been insignificant. > > I turned around at the southern end of the old road (now KY > 2328) and drove back across the old bridge and back to KY 1973, > heading north to Paris Pike. We passed several nice examples of the > old stone walls this region is famous for. (The brochure I got at > Halls says they are known locally as ?§slave fences??, but somehow I > doubt there are many, if any, remaining portions of these walls that > are antebellum.) <Wall 01-03>. > > We were getting pretty tired by the time we reached Paris > Pike (US 27-68) and headed back to Maysville. The highway has > recently been expanded to four lanes, requiring the rebuilding of > some of the old walls. A few segments have been left alone, but now > sit in the middle of the medianf? The widening was quite necessary > considering the volume of traffic this road carries, but at least it > was done with care to disturb the beauty and history as little as > possible. It was so well done it even won an award. > (http://roads.cahaltech.com/page.php3?? > page=countryscene/parispike/parispike ) > > Kevin took one more picture for me before we got back. Just > north of Paris on US 68 is the Bourbon Drive In. Not really a > spectacular place either in structure or signage, but it is still in > operation! <drivein> > > There?¦s still a lot more to check out around Maysville, but > that will have to wait for another road trip. > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285- 5434 WITH > YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD- owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@y... POST a message via e-mail, send it > to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Yahoo! 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Guest big_ugly_mich@yahoo.com Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 I do have a question, though. Is that thing in the background of your web page shaped like a boomerang for any particular reason? --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, big_ugly_mich@y... wrote: > If 41 ever went through Indianapolis, I don't know about it. I'd like > to find out. > > I do stand corrected on the Cozy Dog. Co-Z dog was a cheap imitation > by a local establishment called Mel's Drive-In. I didn't mind since > they gave an etymology, but they closed about a year ago. Too bad, > since they had Milwaukee's finest chili cheese fries. > > 41 still runs that way according to Mapquest. It changed alignments > in Southeastern Wisconsin, which includes the part I was born near. > If you have a map, the old alignment is County 241 in Milwaukee > County. 41 now shares road with Interstate 94 in Milwaukee County. I > can't see the logic of that move, since most of the kitschy > restaurants and one defunct drive in theater are on old 41. Why the > federal government wants to stab taxpaying businesses in the heart, I > don't know. > > I support the Interstate system, because it keeps the maniacs off the > fun roads, but a bit of common sense is in order. > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jenniferrt66" > <jabremer66@a...> wrote: > > Well, I hope you get the independence you need to make that road > trip > > and write your book! The more guidebooks about U.S. highways, the > > better! > > > > Did U.S. 41 at one time go through Indy? I am a new transplant to > > Indy, but my husband Pat has lived here all his life, so he might > > know. I have a 1941 Rand McNally map that shows U.S 41 running > (in > > part) from Nashville, northwest into southwestern Indiana, then > north > > into Terre Haute and up to Chicago, all along the western border of > > Indiana. U.S. 31 goes through Indy though...just curious! > > > > The Cozy Drive In is still operating in Springfield, serving up > Cozy > > Dogs and terrific greasy fries (though less greasy than they used > to > > be). I don't know if they were ever called Co-Z Dogs though, maybe > > early on, but I always have read it just as Cozy. > > > > There's some pictures on my website of the Cozy I took in August > > (scroll about halfway down): > > > > http://www.roadtripmemories.com/trips/illinois66-2.htm > > > > I hope you come up with a suitable and realistic disguise for Lou > > Mitchell's so you can get some Milk Duds! > > > > > > Jennifer Bremer > > AR List Co-Host > > http://www.roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 Really cool trip--I have a recollection that somewhere along 68 in the part of the country you were trekkin there was a Stuckeys; it sat right on the side of the road...did you come across one? Tsingtao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Reynolds" <roustabout@starband.net> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 7:40 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Cruisin' The Bluegrass (long) Well, here?¦s the write up from November?¦s day trip in Kentucky. The same situation applies as last time. The photos are in the ?§BabyBoomerBob?? folder. CRUISIN?¦ THE BLUEGRASS Back in November I took a weekend to go visit with my good friend Kevin Redden in Maysville, Kentucky. Susan didn?¦t make this one with me so it was something of a ?§boys?¦ weekend out??f? Kevin lives on Lexington Pike, a road that winds gracefully through an older residential neighborhood, down the Ohio River bluffs to downtown Maysville. It?¦s almost certainly an older alignment of US 62-68, but considering the name the locals give it, it?¦s very likely much older than the US highway system. They call it the Buffalo Trace. We headed out Saturday morning toward Paris, checking out old alignments of US 68 as we went. The first stop was Washington, KY <Washington01-05>. I think this is the oldest town in the state. It was founded in 1786 (just 10 years after Fort Boonesborough) by local pioneer Simon Kenton. Since the main highway passes it by, there is only local and tourist traffic easing through town. We parked on the side of Main Street and walked around, shooting pictures and enjoying the early morning solitude. Kevin pointed out several old metal water pumps <Washington02> and the oldest post office west of the Alleghenies <Washington04>. I sighed as I stood in front of the site of the Broderick Tavern, an early 19th century tavern and inn that had burned a couple of years ago. Kevin, Susan and I ate there once, and it was there that I first had the local dish known as hot brown. You take toast, add white gravy, ham, and turkey, then cover with melted cheddar cheese. Little did I know then that before the day was over, I?¦d have hot brown like I?¦d never had it beforef?. A new foundation was already in place, so something is going to be built on the site. Luckily, knowing Washington, it won?¦t be a McDonald?¦sf? The last thing I did in Washington was to take pictures of the original split between US 62 and 68 <Washington 06>, then a shot down old 62 to the present split <Washington 07>. In the latter picture, 68 goes left and right, and 62 goes right and straight ahead. We proceeded down US 68, making the occasional detour to check out old alignments until we came to Blue Licks, where we stopped to take pictures of the old Licking River bridge (BlueLick01, 02> We had hoped to get breakfast at Bridget?¦s Kitchen in Millersburg, but when we got there the place had gone underf? We paused long enough to take a picture of the stump of the old road through town and a railroad bridge over Hinkston Creek. On to Paris and breakfast. There?¦s really only one place in Paris to eat for us and that?¦s Louie?¦s. It?¦s kind of out of the way, which means not many tourists show up there. Nice and quiet with lots of horse racing atmosphere <Louie?¦s01-03>. We set out south on KY 627 driving through gently rolling horse country. It was my intention to follow former US 227 (Now KY 627 and 388) to Richmond, then up US 25 to Clay?¦s Ferry. The best laid schemes a?¦ mice and men?K Our next stop was Fort Boonesborough State Park. We wanted to see the original site, plus the replica of the fort, so we followed the signs directing us onto a smaller road down to the main part of the park. I winced as we passed the campground. Susan and I had a rough time camping here 20 some odd years ago. All the good spots were in the RV site. Tent campers (like us) had to settle for mud flats near the river, with about 3 inches of mud covering the bedrock. No place to drive stakesf? How we managed to keep our tent up I can?¦t recall. Kevin and I strolled around the original site of the fort <Boonesborough01> for a while, then went on down the road looking for the replica. After driving a while, we figured it was back on KY 627, so we headed back, after promising to explore this road next time. It seemed like a pretty neat drive. We soon found the replica <Boonesborough02> and spent half an hour or so checking it out. Nice and educational for the kids, but nothing terribly spectacular. So off we headed south, looking for KY 388. But when we reached the I-75 interchange I realized I?¦d missed the turnf? So we went on to US 25, then drove south to Richmond, .figuring to find the southern end of 388 there. No such luckf? I decided to forego 388 and head back to Clay?¦s Ferry. We found the bypass south of town and were heading north when I spotted a sign ?§TO 388?? pointing to the right. Now my curiosity was up, so I followed the road to its intersection with 388. Back to Richmond we went, discovering the southern end of 388 wasn?¦t signed. Oh well. So we returned to the bypass and followed the sign to 388, heading north this timef? I was determined to drive 388 no matter how many pieces I took it inf? The further north we drove the more things started looking familiar. Well, sure enough when we passed the Ft. Boonesborough campground, I realized we were back where we had started fromf? Had we not turned around to find the replica fort we would have wound up in Richmond the way I had plannedf? We had a good laugh over that one f? By this time Kevin and I were looking for a place to get lunch. There was a sign advertising a place on the Kentucky River called ?§Halls on the River??, so we picked up KY 418 and stopped for lunch <Halls>. The restaurant is on the site of Holder?¦s Tavern, an old inn established in 1783. We sat down and I ordered hot brown. Well, when it came, my eyes bugged out! The portion was enormous! And the melted cheddar didn?¦t just cover the meat, it covered the entire plate! I gave part of it to Kevin, but still ate so much I didn?¦t want dessertf? I?¦m the kind of guy who doesn?¦t believe there?¦s any such thing as ?§too much cheese??. But that day I *did* have ?§enough??f? All plans to approach Clay?¦s Ferry from the south were out the window now, so we continued on KY 418 in the direction of Lexington (where the bourbon is strong, the horses are good looking, and all the basketball players are above averagef?).At Athens we headed south on KY 1973 (Note: Kentucky highways with four digit numbers are secondary roads). We soon came to US 25 and headed south to the Clay?¦s Ferry Bridge. The history of this bridge is interesting. It began as a two lane bridge for US 25-421 in 1946. Over the years it has been expanded to its present six lanes and its incorporation into I-75. (For more information and some professional quality photos check out http://www.kentuckyroads.com/images/claysferry/ ). It?¦s an impressive structure leaping the gorge of the Kentucky River. However?K. Down in the gorge where nobody crossing on the interstate can see, there?¦s a little gem. The pre-1946 bridge. 1869 vintage. One lane. Wrought iron. In great shape! And it was *this* bridge I?¦d come to see <Clay?¦s Ferry 01, 02>. We stopped by the remains of a defunct honky tonk and I scrambled down to the river bank for a photo op. As I drove across the bridge, the tires singing on the metal grate beneath, I tried to imagine what it was like when this was the main bridge between Lexington and points south. There must have been a major bottleneck here. This stretch of 25 was part of the eastern trunk of the Dixie Highway back then, so the traffic couldn?¦t have been insignificant. I turned around at the southern end of the old road (now KY 2328) and drove back across the old bridge and back to KY 1973, heading north to Paris Pike. We passed several nice examples of the old stone walls this region is famous for. (The brochure I got at Halls says they are known locally as ?§slave fences??, but somehow I doubt there are many, if any, remaining portions of these walls that are antebellum.) <Wall 01-03>. We were getting pretty tired by the time we reached Paris Pike (US 27-68) and headed back to Maysville. The highway has recently been expanded to four lanes, requiring the rebuilding of some of the old walls. A few segments have been left alone, but now sit in the middle of the medianf? The widening was quite necessary considering the volume of traffic this road carries, but at least it was done with care to disturb the beauty and history as little as possible. It was so well done it even won an award. (http://roads.cahaltech.com/page.php3?? page=countryscene/parispike/parispike ) Kevin took one more picture for me before we got back. Just north of Paris on US 68 is the Bourbon Drive In. Not really a spectacular place either in structure or signage, but it is still in operation! <drivein> There?¦s still a lot more to check out around Maysville, but that will have to wait for another road trip. 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Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 Wow, you and Navagator in a Chevy...can't imagine it! (haha)...congrats and see you in Rolla! Tsingtao, Kip, Quinn and Natalie ----- Original Message ----- From: "brownwho63" <wefly66@earthlink.net> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 9:29 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: New Year's Roadie... > Congrats on the new wheels, Pat and Jennifer! Glad you're getting to > cruise through MO this weekend, as '66 through our state is > fantastic. > > Oh yeah; we bought a new Monte Carlo supercharged SS yesterday at > Route 66 Motors (where else?) in Pacific. Black with red trim and > all the bells and whistles. Not quite the same car as our V8 '87 > Monte SS was but very quick and very sleek. Navigator and I decided > on another Monte a few months ago (it's #3 and we still have the > first one) and she chose the color. She's partial to black because > that was the color of my old Ford when I was "courting" her back in > the fifties, at least that's what she tells me. Good cruisin' in the > new year, everyone.....Bliss & Navigator > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "roadmaven" <roadmaven@a...> > wrote: > > Howdy folks...As soon as the Mrs. closes the deal on a new Toyota > > this afternoon, we'll be hitting the road this afternoon for a > > weekend cruise along 66 for a steak dinner in Amarillo. No, not > > taking the new wheels! We "may" be seeing some of you 66ers in the > > next few days, if you're around. Should be fun ringing in the New > > Year tonight on 66 somewhere in Missouri. Hope you all have a SAFE > > one! > > > > Pat & Jennifer > > Speedway, IN > > http://roadtripmemories.com > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Rudyard Welborn" <r.Welborn@w...> wrote: > Really cool trip--I have a recollection that somewhere along 68 in the part > of the country you were trekkin there was a Stuckeys; it sat right on the > side of the road...did you come across one? Tsingtao, Kip Nope:( No Stuckeys between Lexington and Maysville. Perhaps on the other side of Lexington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Laurel Kane Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 I drove over to Buffalo Ranch (what's left of it) this morning and talked to the new owner, a very nice gentleman. The bad news is that it's definitely been bought and will be razed. The new structure on the property will be a "travel center", according to the owner, which I presume means truck stop/gas station complex. The owner said that he grew up spending time at Buffalo Ranch and considers it a bit of nostalgia for himself as well as others, so he'll be keeping the "feel" of the place, calling it Buffalo Ranch, and (would you believe) even bringing back a herd of buffalos for tourists to see! And, this is the VERY good news (for me, at least).... I asked him what was going to happen to the old signs on the property, and he asked if I wanted them! I said "YES, OF COURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", with my heart racing in my chest. "Fine", he said. "They're yours, if you'll display them in your gas station, and if you can haul them away". Oh my gosh!!! The signs are mine! He said he wants to keep some of the signs to put up in the new building, but I can have the rest. There are some others hidden away in one of the buildings I can have as well, he said. It was too rainy and muddy (and still partially dark) this morning to go into the building, but I'll go back on Monday, at his suggestion, to explore what's available. I can't begin to tell you how excited I am about this. The signs will remain -- if not on the original buildings -- at least in the same town! I'm thinking now about devoting a good part of Afton Station to Buffalo Ranch and all the goodies I've collected from it. So, although it seems we can't always completely stop the wheels of progress, I guess we can slow them a little, and, if nothing else, we can do our best to preserve the nostalgia. I'm tryin'! Laurel Afton Station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jerrymc66 Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Hello everybody, Just wanted to announce to the group that my new online gallery of original Route 66 artwork is up and running! You can enter it directly thru http://www.mockturtlepress.com/jerry Wish me luck! Jerry PS...I do take special orders, and the subject doesn't HAVE to be on Route 66...just so its roadside cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 Personally I would love to have one of those nice "sit down, wooden phone booths" . . waxing nostalgically, Chris ______________________________________________ Retired pay phones find new life as novelty items By Mark Niesse, Associated Press ATLANTA N Old pay phones are selling like they're going out of style. Collectors and packrats have made an online rush to buy BellSouth's boxy old pay phones after the Atlanta-based company decided to pull out of a coin-operated phone business that had withered in the wireless age. "It's a novelty. You just don't usually see pay phones in people's homes," said Hugh Bowen, a retired Atlanta police officer who bought one of the 30-pound phones. "I thought it was so neat and I always wanted one. When I saw this opportunity I jumped on it." So many people hurried to buy the phones after they were offered over the Internet two months ago that they're now sold out. About 500 orders for the $135 phones (shipping included) were filled, and now there's a waiting list of about 300 more people. http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2004-02-29-pay-phone-dec or_x.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ~Ron Kendall~ Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 I guess those French adults, and history books, omit they would be speaking German if it wasn't for our "perceived" bulling attitude. ~ron~ "....and you may ask yourself, where does that highway go to?" "www.US-Highways.com" ----- Original Message ----- The theme was the U.S. so we got a chance to see US through the eyes of French adults filtered through their kids. It was not a pretty sight as you can well imagine, we are seen as fat and bullying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jenniferrt66 Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 I agree! There used to be one of those sit down wooden phone booths in the pharmacy of the town I grew up in. That pharmacy though, was bought out by a local family, and changed from old dark, woodwork pharmacy with a soda fountain to a bright new modern store, then turned into a makeshift CVS until the new CVS could be built. The soda fountain now resides at the Smithsonian though!! There's a wooden phone booth at the Tri County Truck Stop on Route 66 in Missouri. too cool. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <chris@e...> wrote: > Personally I would love to have one of those nice "sit down, > wooden phone booths" . . waxing nostalgically, Chris > ______________________________________________ > > > Retired pay phones find new life as novelty items > By Mark Niesse, Associated Press > ATLANTA N Old pay phones are selling like they're going out of > style. > > Collectors and packrats have made an online rush to buy > BellSouth's boxy old pay phones after the Atlanta-based > company decided to pull out of a coin-operated phone business > that had withered in the wireless age. > > "It's a novelty. You just don't usually see pay phones in people's > homes," said Hugh Bowen, a retired Atlanta police officer who > bought one of the 30-pound phones. "I thought it was so neat > and I always wanted one. When I saw this opportunity I jumped > on it." > > So many people hurried to buy the phones after they were > offered over the Internet two months ago that they're now sold > out. About 500 orders for the $135 phones (shipping included) > were filled, and now there's a waiting list of about 300 more > people. > > http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2004-02-29-pay-phone-dec > or_x.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jenniferrt66" <jabremer66@a...> wrote: The > soda fountain now resides at the Smithsonian though!! Is that slab of Route 66 roadbed on display now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 YES, in fact the entire Route 66 display is on the slab. You can see photos of it on our DC trip web site www.cart66pf.org James M. Conkle CEO Route 66 Preservation Foundation P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760 617 3991 cell 760 868 3320 760 868 8614 fax jim@cart66pf.org www.cart66pf.org -----Original Message----- From: Pat [mailto:roadmaven@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 9:51 AM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Smithsonian WAS: Retired pay phones --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jenniferrt66" <jabremer66@a...> wrote: The > soda fountain now resides at the Smithsonian though!! Is that slab of Route 66 roadbed on display now? Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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