Guest Bakerhab@aol.com Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Carol Thorp, (714) 885-2333 Yvonne Beeman, (909) 891-1600 MEDIA ADVISORY SAN BERNARDINO CELEBRATES A '66-DIAMOND DAY' WITH AUTO CLUB Route 66's Original Sign-Posters To Present City with Vintage Sign Replica WHO: Mayor Judith Valles, travel writer David Brackney and Auto Club photographer Todd Masinter WHAT: The Automobile Club of Southern California's popular Route 66 GreatestHitsa„? Map is being updated with new photos and information about the road's unique roadside eateries, historic motels and scenery for next year's 80th anniversary of the Mother Road. The Auto Club was an original mapper of many of the nation's early highways and streets, including Route 66. As part of this road trip, Greatest Hitsa„? map writer David Brackney and photographer Todd Masinter will present Mayor Judith Valles and the City of San Bernardino with a replica of the sign that the Auto Club posted along the predecessor to Route 66, the National Old Trails Road. Also, the Auto Club will declare a '66-Diamond Day' in San Bernardino to recognize the city's top quality efforts to maintain the popularity of the famed 'Mother Road.' The AAA Diamond rating program normally is used to rate hotels and motels nationwide, with five-diamond properties deemed to be of the highest quality. WHY: Before the federal government took it over in 1927 and renamed it U.S. Route 66, the original transcontinental byway was called the National Old Trails Road. The Auto Club installed 4,000 directional signs on the road between Los Angeles and Kansas City, Mo. WHEN: Sign installation - 10 a.m. - Tuesday, June 7, 2005 WHERE: 3rd and D Streets, in front of the Route 66 mural near San Bernardino City Hall (the traditional start point for the Route 66 Rendezvous) SPONSORS: Hertz and Ford Motor Company provided the 2005 Ford Mustang coupe and Mustang GT convertible that the AAA travel writer and photographer are traveling in. The road trip finishes in Santa Monica, Calif., on the evening of June 7. ### Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bakerhab2003 Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 I talked to a PR person with the AAA, and got an advance copy of a release saying that they would be putting up another NOTR sign in San Bernardino on June 7. I made the mistake of mentioning to her that Adrian, TX was not on the NOTR and she proceeded to tell me all about the history of the auto club and signing the highways. What was I thinking trying to talk to a marketeer about history? LOL Helen --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Pat B." <roadmaven@a...> wrote: > That is true, and they look awesome. It'd be really good if they > could get some of those put up throughout the entire length of the > NOTR. But as Mike eluded to, they probably wouldn't be around for > long. > > Pat B. > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "bakerhab2003" <Bakerhab@a...> > wrote: > > Well, at least they got it right about Albuquerque being on the > NOTR. > > > > Helen > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Pat B." <roadmaven@a...> > wrote: > > > OK, I need some help understanding something here. I've been > keeping > > > track of the AAA guys and their journey along Route 66. However, > I'm > > > a > > > bit perplexed as to the National Old Trails Road sign put up in > > > Adrian, > > > TX during their trip: http://www.aaa- > > > calif.com/images/travel/route66/day11-13/DSC_0614.jpg > > > > > > Considering the path of the NOTR never came close to Adrian and > > > Chicago, this is a major blunder. The NOTR hooked up with 66 in > Santa > > > Fe (old 66) and down into Albuquerque and on west onto 66 from > there. > > > Call me nitpicky, but is historical accuracy asking too much? > > > > > > Pat B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JWM Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Parsa- No, the original 1927 idea was to terminate the highway at Broadway in Los Angeles. By the early 1930s Los Angeles was off the map, and the terminus became San Diego. I?ll respond to the rest of your questions offline. As for the spelling of "piccannies," that's the way it appears on the song sheet and is an alternative spelling of the derogatory term. JWM drivetheost.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Evening folks....Just pulled into Speedway an hour ago after a night's stay at the Rest Haven in Springfield, MO. It was by far THE BEST Route 66 gathering I've attended. The representation from the e-group was unbelievable. Jennifer's going to be working on a Tulsa page for our website that'll have some of the 70-plus pictures she took just at Tulsa...which doesn't include the neon tour we took last night in Springfield. The only bad part of the weekend was that it just went by in the blink of an eye. It was tough leaving Tulsa Sunday afternoon and especially leaving 66 in St. Louis this afternoon. But it was great seeing old friends and meeting some screen names in person for the first time. I got a chance to renew an old acquaintance from 6 years ago. Tom Gibson of Tulsa made some cool Route 66 shirts in the late 1990's...various tie-dyes and others...from his "Tom's 66 Wear" business. I ordered a sweatshirt from Tom in '97 and had the chance to meet him in '98 at the Carthage Drive In reopening. Tom had been out of the Route 66 scene of late, but is starting to get back into it with his t-shirt business again. His 4 year old son Will was doing a bang-up job this weekend passing out his dad's shirt flyers to anyone he thought would be interested. Some of you out there may know Tom & know what a genuine good guy he is. I'm going to work on getting him on the e-group soon. A big thanks for this weekend go out to: --David & Mary Lou Knudson for the work they continue to do with the Steinbeck Awards Banquet and the e-group breakfast. --Laurel Kane for her efforts over the past year in leading this fantastic event that will be looked upon in years to come as the gateway to the revitalization of Route 66 in Tulsa. BRAVO!! --Mike Ward for his Master of Ceremonies duties at the Route 66 e- group breakfast. Mike, you need to make a living on those pipes of your's! --THE Landrunner...The Circle grew larger & stronger this weekend, Bro! --Everyone else I ran across this weekend...Scott P., Emily, Jerry, Jim R., Jim C., Shellee, John & Lenore, Jeff M., Helen & Harry, Sue & Sonny, and everyone else on here who was there. See you in San Bernadino...maybe! Pat B. Speedway, IN http://roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest laurelrk66@aol.com Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 In a message dated 7/2/2005 6:54:22 AM Central Daylight Time, hester_nec@yahoo.com writes: > Bottom line - in New England you almost are forced to use interstates if > you want to get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time. Out of New England, > in the mid-west, blue highways, U S 40/30/31/20 - pretty much wide open and > fun to drive on. Having lived in CT for 30 years until I moved to the wide-open midwest (Tulsa, OK) three years ago, I am quite familiar with driving nightmares of New England. I had nearly forgotten the hassles until I went back to visit last month. Fortunately, I still remembered a few of the secrets of getting around the I-84 and I-95 corridors without hitting those walls of traffic. True, the alternate routes slow you down a bit, but it's a trade-off for some really beautiful scenery, particularly the small towns in upstate CT. Even so, in general East Coast driving can wear on one's nerves. Here in Oklahoma, we're now hearing a lot from the media about how our roads are some of the worst in the country. Somebody is going to have to go pretty far to convince me of that! For me, driving in OK, both on the interstates and the blue highways, is absolute paradise compared to the East Coast. Laurel Kane Tulsa, OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest laurelrk66@aol.com Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 In a message dated 7/1/2005 11:31:07 PM Central Daylight Time, x11fan@yahoo.com writes: > I'm new to the groups also and welcome. Been a new member for about a > week and didn't know this many people loved the "old roads". Now I'm > beginning to wonder when I drive the roads, if the other people on them > are fellow travelers like me! > > Charles > Charles, the trend toward appreciation of driving the smaller, quieter, slower roads is large and growing. You're right... you're not alone by a long shot! Not only are there great groups like this "American Road" crew, but most of the individual roads have large eGroups of advocates, too. For instance, membership in our Route 66 group is approaching 1,000 members. And, it seems that new books are being published every day about the pleasures of "blue highway" travel. I have a couple of hundred of them in my personal library alone. Also, keep checking your TV schedule and you'll find more and more travel shows which spotlight U.S. auto travel. As Arlo Guthrie would say, it's a movement! Welcome to it! Laurel Kane Tulsa, OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ken Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Hi Frank! Yes, great article indeed! Very cool! There is another article out there with the National Road/Route 66 topic. Front page of the Sat. July 12th Effingham Daily News in Illinois. I can't seem to find the article online anywhere (that doesn't mean it's not out there somewhere), so you may have to request it directly from the newspaper. BTW - Did anyone attend the National Road Festival June 14-16? God Bless and Happy Trails. the landrunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 I had something similar happen last summer on the way home from our Hudson (car) national meet in Pittsburg. I left the motel in P'burg and headed east on 22 to 119 and on up to I-80. I went up 81 to 84 and doing my usual turned north on the Taconic Parkway to I-90. I left P'burg at 6am and got back to southern Maine at 6pm - but, there were a couple of club members who left ahead of me by about an hour and they went I-84 into CT. Got to Waterbury, no exit handy, and there they sat. A truck had turned over on 84 up near Hartford and that caused a block all the way back past Waterbury. They finally got out of it - about the time I got home in Maine. Many times I use either I-87 or the Taconic between I-90 and I-84 because that Hartford/Waterbury/Danbury corridor is absolutely impossible - even using 91/691 Hartford/Meriden/Waterbury by-pass. As for using local roads such as U S 6 or 44 - forget it. To many little towns with miles and miles of traffic lights. Bottom line - in New England you almost are forced to use interstates if you want to get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time. Out of New England, in the mid-west, blue highways, U S 40/30/31/20 - pretty much wide open and fun to drive on. I have friends in Illinois, in Decatur. Many times coming and going out there I'll use 36 between Indy and Decatur - not much to look out out there, but not much traffic either. East of Indy I'll use 40 or 36, or even go north and use 24/30. I-70 between Indy and Columbus is a disaster looking for a home!!! And I love the proposal for I-81 in VA - make it 3, 4, 5 or more lanes!!!!!!!! I got a feeling if that comes to pass much of U S 11, as we know it today, will end up buried under a multi-lane interstate that will have no improvement - because it is an immutable law; build a bigger and better highway to alleviate traffic - and traffic will flow to over fill the improvement. Happy travels. Hudsonly, Alex B Jennifer <jabremer66@aol.com> wrote: > In a message dated 7/1/05 7:28:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > realtupi@y... writes: > We avoided the Interstates (I fail to see that they save much time any more) > and drove the old highways. I hear you! A few months ago, my mom traveled from Connecticut back to Indy. Around 3:30 PM on a weekday, she was in Ohio on I-70 just west of the Gratiot exit when she was stopped in traffic due to a HUGE accident...it shut down I-70 until - yes, honest!! - 11:00 PM! She called me, and I tried to help with an alternate routing (using my trusty Streets and Trips). Unfortunately, the next exit was 11 miles or so away, and traffic literally never moved the whole time. She was only just past an the previous when the traffic stopped; if traffic had backed up prior to that exit, she could have gotten onto U.S. 40 west and avoided sitting in a parking lot for 8 hours! Jennifer http://www.roadtripmemories.com Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David G. Clark Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "sealunasealuna" <ogorek@c...> wrote: > > and that the use of portand concrete as a paved roadway surface > > didn't come about until around 1913. > > Bricks were considered paving. Macadam was also sometimes referred to as paving. Dave Clark Windy City Road Warrior http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com dave@windycityroadwarrior.com 312-432-1284 843 W. Adams Street #312 Chicago, IL 60607-3017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Hazlehurst Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Hello Group, I'm new to the group (last week) and I'm really impressed with the volume of mail & the useful info contained in the mailings! Having just semi-retired, my wife and I are starting to think about some short 3-4 day road trips and our first destination will probably be a return to Boston for some chowda' and then maybe up to southern, coastal Maine (Ogunquit, Kennebunk) for some lobsta'. We haven't been up there for years so a return trip is in order. We usually take the interstates from central NJ because time is limited. Now that our schedule is more "relaxed" I'm open to suggestions for a more leisurely, scenic ride. Any ideas for a more enjoyable ride will be appreciated. Thanks all, Fred Hazlehurst __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Hazlehurst Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 laurelrk66@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/2/2005 6:54:22 AM Central Daylight Time, hester_nec@yahoo.com writes: > Bottom line - in New England you almost are forced to use interstates if > you want to get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time. Out of New England, > in the mid-west, blue highways, U S 40/30/31/20 - pretty much wide open and > fun to drive on. Having lived in CT for 30 years until I moved to the wide-open midwest (Tulsa, OK) three years ago, I am quite familiar with driving nightmares of New England. I had nearly forgotten the hassles until I went back to visit last------ Laurel Kane Tulsa, OK Ditto that for central NJ. I just sent a note to the group for suggestions for alternate routes up to Boston & Maine for the same reasons. Ct traffic is a "bear'. Fred Hazlehurst Union, NJ Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brownwho63 Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Pasted below are driving instructions issued for the Route 66 Association of Missouri 2004 motor tour. The tour began from the Hampton Inn in downtown St. Louis (on Market Street just west of Union Station) and cruised across the state. I'm pasting directions from the Hampton to Rolla. Remember that massive interstate road construction is taking place between Bourbon and Cuba and traffic may be routed onto old 66. That just makes it more exciting and a lot like the traffic flow really was during the 66 heyday. Be sure to visit our official web site (http://www.missouri66.org). Have a great trip....Bliss Hampton Inn to Route 66 State Park - Turn left out of Hampton Inn parking lot .2 miles: Union Station (on right) .5 (.7 total) miles: Intersect with Tucker Turn right onto Tucker .6 (1.3 total) miles: Intersection with Choteau (to left, 5 blocks, is the Eat Rite diner at intersection of 7th and Choteau) .5 (1.8 total) miles: Intersection with Lafayette (To the right on Lafayette is the entry ramp onto I-44. If you want to avoid the City, turn right on Lafayette, get into left lane and follow the signs to exit left onto I-44. Take I-44 to Lewis Road, Exit 266, for Route 66 State Park) .3 (2.1 total) miles: Tucker turns into Gravois as `66 passes the Soulard neighborhood (on left) .3 (2.4 total) miles: St. Michaels Eastern Orthodox Church on right .2 (2.6 total) miles: Hodak's Restaurant --finest fried chicken in St Louis (on left) .5 (3.1 total) miles: St. Francis DeSales Catholic Church (on right) 1.2 (4.3 total) miles: Intersection with Grand Avenue (Southside National Bank on SW corner) .7 (5.0 total) miles: Intersection with Chippewa Turn Right onto Chippewa .2 (5.2 total) miles: Missouri Pacific viaduct .7 (5.9 total) miles: Intersection with Kingshighway .4 (6.3 total) miles: Keller Drug (on right) .8 (7.1 total) miles: Intersection with Hampton Avenue (Hampton Village Shopping Center on left; one of -- if not the oldest -- shopping centers west of the Mississippi) .4 (7.5 total) miles: FIRST intersection with Watson Road (continue West on Chippewa here) .1 (7.6 total) miles: Donut Drive In (on right) .3 (7.9 total) miles: TED DREWES FROZEN CUSTARD (on left) .3 (8.2 total) miles: Cross River Des Peres Leave City of St. Louis and enter Shrewsbury .3 (8.5 total) miles: At this point Chippewa turns into Watson Road. .5 (9.0 total) miles: Frisco Railroad Trestle .Leave Shrewsbury and enter Village of Marlborough .8 (9.8 total) miles: Site of Coral Court is on the right (the old wall remains) and the Wayside Inn is on the right .2 (10.0 total) miles: Duplex and Chippewa Motels on left; George's 66 Bar and Grill on Right .2 (10.2 total) miles: Intersection with Laclede Station Road. .3 (10.5 total) miles: La Casa Grande Motel (one of the best examples of `66 Roadside Architecture in St. Louis) on left. Leave Marlborough and enter Crestwood .8 (11.3 total) miles: Intersection with Elm Avenue 1.2 (12.5 total) miles: Crestwood Mall (on right). Across Watson is the site of the 66 Park Inn Theatre. Leave Crestwood and Enter Sunset Hills 1.4 (13.9 total) miles: Intersection with Lindbergh (Bypass 66) .4 (14.3 total) miles: Intersection with Geyer. Enter I-44 West Go west on I-44 to Lewis Road, exit #266, and turn right into the Route 66 State Park. When leaving the park, make a very cautious merge onto I-44 (short merging lane) and go west to Six Flags Road, exit #261. Turn left at the light and cross under I-44. Turn right onto Route 66/Business Loop 44 and go through Pacific. Continue west on '66 at Gray Summit and continue to Villa Ridge. Continue west past Tri County Truck Stop after the light. Cross U.S. 50 at the stop sign and go west on the north outer road, County AH to St. Clair. NOTE: Do not cross I-44 at the top of the hill where the road is also marked as County AH. (It runs on both sides of the interstate into St. Clair.) Instead, continue to the overpass at exit #242 and cross the interstate there. St. Clair to Stanton - Turn right onto the south outer road, County AH. Follow this through St. Clair and turn right just past the Phillips 66 Convenience Store. Cross over I-44 and turn left at the stop sign onto 66/County W. Take this into Stanton. Stanton to Sullivan - Turn left at the stop sign and cross back over I-44 in Stanton. Turn right onto the south outer road that runs in front of the Jesse James Museum and the Antique Toy Museum. Continue west to Sullivan. Sullivan to Cuba- Go west across MO 185 to Elmont Road and turn right. Turn left at the next stop sign onto the south outer road. Proceed west and cross County N-J at the first stop sign in Bourbon. Continue west on Old Highway 66 Street to the next Bourbon stop sign. Proceed west to the stop sign, County H, just south of the Leasburg exit and continue to Cuba. Cross MO 19 in Cuba at the stop light. Cuba to Rolla - Go west on `66 from Cuba to the stop light at MO 68 in St. James. OPTIONS: (1) City Boulevard - Continue going straight through the light and proceed west on the south outer road. NOTE: After leaving the city, the original alignment crossed what is now the interstate highway and continued west on the north outer road. Cross back over I-44 at the first overpass, County V, at Rolla and turn left onto the north outer road just past the overpass. Continue on the north outer road and then turn left at the stop sign onto U.S. 63. Cross over I-44 and continue west on Business Loop 44 through Rolla. (2) Original Alignment - Turn right at the light and cross back over I-44. Turn left onto Outer Road West and continue west past Route 66 Motors. Cross County V and continue west on the north outer road to U.S. 63 and turn left. Cross I-44 and continue west on Business Loop 44 through Rolla --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Evelyn Phillips" <elp@a...> wrote: > Hi Everyone: > > I just joined the group and have a request! > > My husband retired in February of this year. I was raised in Chicago, > Illinois and never missed the old Route 66 series. I always dreamed of > one day following that road. Now, my husband and I are wanting to take > some short trips (2-4 days at a time) and for our first jaunt would > like to start on Route 66 somewhere in or near Normal, Illinois (we live > over near Moline, Illinois and are only about 1-1/2 hours from > Bloomington/Normal). We would like to travel as much of Route 66 as > possible down to about Rolla, Missouri, leaving in about two weeks. > > I am looking for either a map or information regarding where Route 66 > would start near Normal, and what the towns are along the path we would > like to take. Also, if Route 66 ends at some point along the way, what > route would we follow going in that direction to pick it up again. Can > all of this be done without having to go on an Interstate? I guess my > main concern is if we get on a portion of Route 66, and it goes for say > 15 miles, does it just end? Are there directions locally for what route > to take to pick it up again? I hate to sound so stupid, but this will > be a new adventure for us, and if this one works well, we will probably > do it again on another portion farther down the road taking the > Interstate to that portion where we ended the time before. > > If all of this doesn't sound too stupid, I'd appreciate any information > between these two points and would be most grateful to the group. I'm > already really enjoying the posts and it's only been a couple days. > > Thanks again. > > Evelyn > elp@a... > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Evelyn Phillips Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Thanks to all of you who replied to my request for info on directions and maps of Route 66 in the areas I am interested in (Illinois starting in Bloomington and some of Missouri). I have exactly what I was looking for, and am really looking forward to our short trip with hopefully more at a not too later date. I will submit a full report when we return. You guys are great! Thanks so much for taking the time to reply! Evelyn elp@antiquesbyevelyn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest airfrogusmc Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Hey everybody, For all those that don't have it; I recieved in the mail laat week Jims Rt 66 Oklahoma book and what a treat. Do I wish I would have had this baby on my first 66 trip. My wife got a little nervous when she saw me looking at a big Oklahoma map and pulling out the old sea bag. To busy now but do I have the itch. Allen P.S. Thanks Jim... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Missouri between the River and Rolla provides a LOT to see as well. Check out the Route 66 Assciation of Missouri's list of things to see on 66 in Missouri: http://www.missouri66.org/points_of_interest.html If you follow 66 in IL to the Chain of Rocks, to get to the Missouri side you will need to get on I-270 West to cross the Mississippi. Right after you get over the river you exit at Riverview Blvd. Turn Left on Riverview and a few hundred feet down the road on the left side you will find the Chain of Rocks Bridge. It is now a walking bridge and is one of the coolest things you will find on 66 anywhere. Three options here: If you want to take 66 through St. Louis and downtown (which, though some may disagree I think is worth it). From the Chain of Rocks Parking Lot turn left on Riverview. Take Riverview to Broadway. Turn left on Broadway, and take Broadway to Calvary. Turn right on Calvary which will take you between two magnificent cemeteries, Calvary and Bellefontaine (many St. Louis dignitaries are buried there). Take Calvary to West Florissant. Turn right on West Florissant. As you near the City, West Florissant evolves into 13th St. and then Tucker Blvd. Tucker takes you past the St. Louis Post Dispatch, the Globe Democrat building, the City Hall and Civil Courts Buildings. Once through downtown, Tucker eventually veers to the right and becomes Gravois. Take Gravois to Chippewa. Turn Right on Chippewa, which eventually becomes Watson Rd and Watson takes you to where you have to get on 44. If you want to avoid the No. St. Louis/downtown area: Take Riverview from the Chain Of Rocks to Hall St. Turn Left on Hall Street and take it a few miles to Adelaide (this is an industrial area, not the most scenic drive you will take). Take Adelaide to I-70. Take I-70 East around downtown to I-55 South; Take I-55 South to the Gravois exit (make sure you are in the far right lane to exit on Gravois. Turn Left on Gravois and you will be on 66 to Chippewa etc. If you want to avoid St. Louis altogether, get back on I-270, go all the way around St. Louis to I-44 and take I-44 West. In any case, you have to take I-44 from the intersection with I-270 to Exit 261 to get back on 66. At Exit 266, however, dont forget to stop at the Route 66 State Park which has an excellent display and gift shop and is a neat place to walk around. It is the former City of Times Beach, which was completely eradicated by the Government because of dioxin contamination. You can still see, however, where the streets used to be. At Exit 261, you turn left and you will see "Historic Route 66" signs pointing you West towards Rolla. You don't have to take any more ugly road from that point on. As for things to see on the way (including most of what there is to see in St. Louis), take a look at the above referenced website. If you have trouble pulling it up, you can find it on the Missouri Association website, www.Missouri66.org. Hoping you enjoy the Show Me State! Kip Welborn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn Phillips" <elp@antiquesbyevelyn.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 7:02 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] New Member and Request > Hi Everyone: > > I just joined the group and have a request! > > My husband retired in February of this year. I was raised in Chicago, > Illinois and never missed the old Route 66 series. I always dreamed of > one day following that road. Now, my husband and I are wanting to take > some short trips (2-4 days at a time) and for our first jaunt would > like to start on Route 66 somewhere in or near Normal, Illinois (we live > over near Moline, Illinois and are only about 1-1/2 hours from > Bloomington/Normal). We would like to travel as much of Route 66 as > possible down to about Rolla, Missouri, leaving in about two weeks. > > I am looking for either a map or information regarding where Route 66 > would start near Normal, and what the towns are along the path we would > like to take. Also, if Route 66 ends at some point along the way, what > route would we follow going in that direction to pick it up again. Can > all of this be done without having to go on an Interstate? I guess my > main concern is if we get on a portion of Route 66, and it goes for say > 15 miles, does it just end? Are there directions locally for what route > to take to pick it up again? I hate to sound so stupid, but this will > be a new adventure for us, and if this one works well, we will probably > do it again on another portion farther down the road taking the > Interstate to that portion where we ended the time before. > > If all of this doesn't sound too stupid, I'd appreciate any information > between these two points and would be most grateful to the group. I'm > already really enjoying the posts and it's only been a couple days. > > Thanks again. > > Evelyn > elp@antiquesbyevelyn.com > > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 I am sorry but I have to make a correction to the driving instrucs I made in St. Louis. 1) What I referenced as West Florrisant is actually called Florissant Ave. not West Florrisant. 2) When you take Calvary to Florrisant, turn LEFT on Florrisant, NOT RIGHT. Sorry about that....Kip Welborn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn Phillips" <elp@antiquesbyevelyn.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 8:44 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] RE: New Member and Request > Thanks to all of you who replied to my request for info on directions > and maps of Route 66 in the areas I am interested in (Illinois starting > in Bloomington and some of Missouri). I have exactly what I was looking > for, and am really looking forward to our short trip with hopefully more > at a not too later date. > > I will submit a full report when we return. You guys are great! Thanks > so much for taking the time to reply! > > Evelyn > elp@antiquesbyevelyn.com > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Lucky you, A wife what gets nervous when you start looking at the maps and pulling out the traveling bags. Mine would help me pack!!!!!! LOL Hudsonly, Alex B --- airfrogusmc <abphoto7@comcast.net> wrote: > Hey everybody, > > For all those that don't have it; I recieved in the > mail laat week > Jims Rt 66 Oklahoma book and what a treat. Do I wish > I would have had > this baby on my first 66 trip. My wife got a little > nervous when she > saw me looking at a big Oklahoma map and pulling out > the old sea bag. > To busy now but do I have the itch. > > Allen > > P.S. Thanks Jim... > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest airfrogusmc Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Our next trip will be 61 to spend a little time in New Orleans. "Oklahoma, but you said New Orleans" kinda thing. I think I scarred her. She's not a big flyer so a road trip is the prefered mode of transportation. But I'm the big journey not the dsestination guy and shes all about the destination. Any ideas on old maps more detailed than old gas station maps? Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dennis vaughan Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 jennifer, dear, moderate away all you want. whatever it takes to get rid of the spammers. Jennifer <jabremer66@aol.com> wrote:Thanks so much for joining and we hope you all enjoy American Road Magazine's Yahoo Group! To avoid spammers (which we'd had early on), Pat and I now approve all members personally by requiring a short note about why someone would like to join our group. As you all now know, you have been approved on that basis, but we briefly keep new members on moderated status. We certainly don't wish to do that forever; so, our only requirement for removal of moderated status is just one legitimate post about road travel, a trip or whatever you have to share related to road trips/travel, etc. After we approve that post, we change your status to unmoderated. We think that's reasonable for all members (we haven't had a new member complain yet!) and it does keep spammers at bay, since no one has posted a real post then subsequently spammed us. With that in mind, I just want to make note that Pat and I will be away this weekend (as indicated in my earlier posts!!), so there will be a brief interruption in member / message approvals until we get back. As soon as we can, we will approve any new members as well as posts made during our absence. Thanks for your understanding. Again, welcome aboard and happy & safe traveling!!! Jennifer http://www.roadtripmemories.com Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest via_aurelia_in_italy Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Hi travelers ! I'm a new member from Italy.....and my name is Linus. Since a couple of decades I'm travelling in your country for business I always loved its roads. California, Nevada, Arizona and so on, I put together a web site in '97 trying to esplain in Europe their excitement, many people love it and now that Euro is very strong are travelling along them. You can look for it in the Link section. It's a no profit web site. I'm very interested on discovering new roads in the west and thank you for any suggestion. Linus P.S. My Nik Via Aurelia is the name of the oldest roman road, starting from Rome (of course) and arriving in south France, Founded by the emperor Marco Aurelio almost 2.000 years ago it's still in its place and you can travel it (of courde it's paved ond crowded). Don't forget that in Italy you can esperience the ancient roman road system (Via Cassia, Via Appia ext.) If you need direction please contact me..... --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Tupi" <realtupi@y...> wrote: > Hi Everyone! My name is Trudi. I was born in Indianapolis; lived in > Plainfield until 1985 when we moved to Seminole, Florida. My father > and sisters live in West Newton, Carmel and Fishers. Two weeks ago I > drove with my father from my home in Florida to Indianapolis. We > avoided the Interstates (I fail to see that they save much time any > more) and drove the old highways. What a treat! There was little > traffic and lots of scenery. I was particularly impressed with US > Highway 27 through Tennessee and Kentucky. It was a lovely drive and > didn't take any more time than the Interstates which were bogged down > with construction (particularly I-75 north of Knoxville). > > I love to travel by car; sometimes just for pleasure I look at maps and > dream of the adventures under those little blue and red lines. I > particularly enjoy the paths less followed. I'm glad to have found > fellow travelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Myamiphil Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Thank Yahoo for that... I found your group being fronted as a fav on the group home page this week. I also joined a Grand Canyon group. Im Phil, 56 from NJ. Mariewd and love to travel. THis year doing a San Diego and LA trip. Renting a car. Soon we'll hit Europe and later more of the US. We do lots of short vacations in the NE. Over the years most of the East Coast.. Theres so much to see. We've also done the SouthWest.. but Id like to cover more of it. Our last trip to the SW we did AZs NW corner and got to drive some of Rt66.... would have liked to done more.... but the vacation is a democratic one and I got outvoted!!! lol Over the years Ive had a customized van and even a VW camper.... now the wife wants Hiltons and a mint on the pillow!!!! I still love camping... a problem....lol But we love traveling.... I could drive all day. Some of my favorite spots are the Diners of NJ and the NE. till later Phil --- Jennifer <jabremer66@aol.com> wrote: > I have to say big welcome to our 77 new members this > week...that is, > without question, a record. My inbox was > unexpectedly flooded with new > member requests this morning! > > Don't be shy, step right up and share some road > stories, ask questions > about road travel and have fun! > > Jennifer Bremer > American Road Yahoo Group Co-Moderator > > http://www.roadtripmemories.com > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tupi Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 I used to like to drive State road 37 from Indy down to the Ohio River. Our family owned one of those big old river houses, and that drive was so neat. When we got into Alton (very tiny river town) we crossed a one lane steel and wood frame bridge. My kids always freaked. I wonder if they've paved any of those roads; I sort of hope not. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...> wrote: > If your going to Nashville heading south, there's always U S 31, at least, for Indianapolis to Nashville. Parallels I-65. > > Happy Travels. > > Hudsonly, > Alex B > > Denny Gibson <denny@d...> wrote: > Yep, Penns ( http://www.pennsstore.com/ ) is the "oldest country store in > the nation. I was there during the outhouse races but I'm sure it's worth > seeing anytime. They do suggest calling ahead if you want to be certain > they'll be open. It's not right on US-68 (or much of anything else for that > matter) but their website will give you directions, etc. 68 will also take > you through Harrodsburg and past Shaker Village ( > http://www.shakervillageky.org/ ) which is definitely worth a stop. I know > they have overnight accommodations but can't tell you anything about them. > East of Shaker Village, the road is rather wiggly (in a nice sort of way) > going down to and back up from the river. What was once the tallest railroad > bridge in the country/world/galaxy ( > http://worldtimzone.com/railtrail/highbridge/ ) is nearby but you have to > make some effort to get there from US-68. > > Sorry I can't help on the Coca-Cola museum. I do have a few trips in this > area (including Penns Store) on my site and might be able to remember a few > more things if you get a general route picked out and have some questions. > Looks like a good weekend and I'm sure you'll make it a good drive. > > Denny Gibson > Cincinnati, OH > www.DennyGibson.com > > P.S., As residents of Speedway, IN, traveling on the Fourth of July, you > might consider displaying a flag from your local race track as you travel. I > have such a flag (getting rather ratty these days) that I display for Indy > Pennant Day. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer [mailto:jabremer66@a...] > > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:45 AM > > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Ideas needed! Two lane route & > > destinations south of Indiana... > > > > That sounds like a good plan, Denny! > > > > I know there's a Coca-Cola memorabilia museum in that area > > that we had wanted to visit, but didn't get a chance, so that > > might be good. > > > > Also, is the Penn Store you mentioned the same one you had > > listed on your website - that cool general store? I > > definitely wanted to go there too. > > > > Jennifer > > > > > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...> > > wrote: > > > Getting out of your own backyard in a southerly direction probably > > means > > > I-65 to Louisville and the bottom boundary of you comfortable > > range is sort > > > of I/40/Nashville. One possible route would be staying on I-65 all > > the way > > > to Nashville to catch some great music on Saturday night. Pace > > yourself by > > > stopping by the Corvette museum in Bowling Green, saying hi to > > your old > > > friend Ivan in Cave City, or burning excess time in Nashville by > > visiting > > > the Parthenon, the Ryman, or other attractions. In the morning, > > head home on > > > US-31E, pick up US-62 east in Bardstown, then, in Versailles, grab > > US-60 > > > back to Louisville. Shorten it up by skipping Nashville and > > catching US-31 > > > in Bowling Green or make it even more leisurely by just heading > > east on > > > US-62 at Elizabethtown. Another variation is US-68 from BG to > > Lexington then > > > US-60 to Louisville. Of course, if you take 68, stopping by Penn's > > Store in > > > Gravel Switch is almost a requirement. There are plenty of other > > variations > > > including trading US-62 for the Blue Grass Parkway to speed things > > up while > > > still getting some decent scenery. You're in horse/Bourbon country > > so there > > > are distilleries & good looking farms to be seen. Beautiful horses > > & fast > > > women or something like that. > > > > > > --Denny > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jennifer [mailto:jabremer66@a...] > > > > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:26 AM > > > > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Ideas needed! Two lane route & > > destinations > > > > south of Indiana... > > > > > > > > Hi all! Pat and I are interested in taking a weekend trip, just > > > > Saturday and Sunday. I'd like to head south, take all two lane > > > > roads (though, I'm not averse to taking the Evil-I > > through Indiana, > > > > then two lane after). We'd probably leave at 7:00 AM, and stop > > > > around 6:00 PM. > > > > > > > > Assuming our fairly lesirely pace, stopping often to take > > photos, I > > > > guess we'd average 35 - 40 MPH, so we could travel > > between 385 and > > > > 440 miles from Indianapolis. I'd like suggestions from > > the group as > > > > to a nice scenic route we can take. Any additional suggestions, > > > > such as diners, motels and things to do / see are > > welcomed as well. > > > > > > > > I have Microsoft Streets and Trips, and a neat feature is to set > > > > preferred roads, you can set Interstates to low > > preference and other > > > > highways to high preference, and it will keep you off the > > > > interstate. > > > > > > > > Thanks for any suggestions! > > > > > > > > Jennifer > > > > http://www.roadtripmemories.com > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285- 5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD- owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD- subscribe@y... 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Guest Tupi Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 One of my favorite drives ever was in Southwest Utah. It was in 1973, and we were, well, we were lost. We been search for and found a national forest campsite when out of curiosity we kept driving and ended up on some open grazing range. It was the first time my husband had seen an actual herd of cattle; seems we were on or near a place called Boulder Mountain. After we got through the cattle I thought we'd found paradise. It was really lovely. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <homiechris2000@y...> wrote: > Yep! You definitely are a featured group...I am a new member, howdy > to all. I live in southeast Utah. Nice to meet you all! > > Chris > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jennifer" <jabremer66@a...> > wrote: > > Hi Denny! The light bulb went off last night and I thought we might > > be a featured group at Yahoo and we are an "editor's pick" > for "Summer > > Road Trips!". Too cool. The list keeps growing as more requests > come > > in! > > > > Hope everyone dives right in and starts the road warrior stories! > > > > Jennifer > > http://www.roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jennifer" <jabremer66@a...> wrote: > Just a reminder about the program tonight - I'm eagerly counting down > the time!! > > Jennifer > > > From: "Brian A. Butko" <babutko@h...> > Date: Fri Jul 9, 2004 1:18 pm > Subject: PBS roadside show this Sunday > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > "A Program about Unusual Buildings & Other Roadside Stuff" will air > on most PBS > stations this Sunday July 11, 8 pm. > > It's produced by Rick Sebak who also did shows on ice cream, > amusement parks, > and hot dogs. > Drat. I was out of town and I missed it. Read the blurb about the show, though. Now I'll have to find out more about that mortar and pestle shaped drug store in Lexington:) BabyBoomerBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 I believe where you were "lost" is now part of or very near to Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument. I have never been there, sounds like a good road trip for me. I will wait until fall, though, as it is now nearing 100? in the shade here in my little town. Utah has only two interstate highways, I-15 and I-70. We are lucky that way as the rest of the state is criss-crossed by two lane roads. Chris --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Tupi" <realtupi@y...> wrote: > One of my favorite drives ever was in Southwest Utah. It was in > 1973, and we were, well, we were lost. We been search for and found > a national forest campsite when out of curiosity we kept driving and > ended up on some open grazing range. It was the first time my > husband had seen an actual herd of cattle; seems we were on or near a > place called Boulder Mountain. After we got through the cattle I > thought we'd found paradise. It was really lovely. > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <homiechris2000@y...> > wrote: > > Yep! You definitely are a featured group...I am a new member, > howdy > > to all. I live in southeast Utah. Nice to meet you all! > > > > Chris > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jennifer" <jabremer66@a...> > > wrote: > > > Hi Denny! The light bulb went off last night and I thought we > might > > > be a featured group at Yahoo and we are an "editor's pick" > > for "Summer > > > Road Trips!". Too cool. The list keeps growing as more requests > > come > > > in! > > > > > > Hope everyone dives right in and starts the road warrior stories! > > > > > > Jennifer > > > http://www.roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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