Guest Chetnichols@aol.com Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 Hi Emily, It appears my original suspicions about the realtor's action are coming true. Here in the state of Illinois, realtors are governed by the Department of Banks & Real Estate and our local boards. I'm not familiar with Missouri's set-up...but I'm sure that they have to have a governing body where a complaint can be filed. Moreover, the realtor is probably a member of a local board where another complaint can be filed. It's very odd that you're offer was "presented" (Really?) and you were not informed that it was rejected. Normal procedure would be to inform you that the offer you made was rejected....allowing you a chance to counter. One question, did you have a realtor representing you as a "buyer"? You should have had one or should get one. Please be aware that "the deal" is not done until the papers are all signed at "closing". I've seen better offers show up at the title companies at closing that kick an original buyer out. Not a pleasant situation to be around, but that's how it works. I'm really flabbergasted that Mr. Ferguson is not being informed about who the buyer is. Something v-e-r-r-r-y fishy is going on here. I would love to see the listing agreement and sales contract since I'm a realtor/broker here in Illinois. I shudder at the thought that the property might be razed. Now, a couple ideas: is your husband a vet? If he is, he's entitled to a low-down-payment (maybe even a no-down-payment), low-interest VA loan. This is a one time deal offered to vets. Also, if Mr. Ferguson is a vet, he COULD apply for a VA loan and then allow you to assume it.....just a thought. Anyway, I would recommend that you secure a realtor who might help you out. Also, a "buyers agent" is paid by the seller...so it should not cost you anything to do this. Seek out someone who is a broker and maybe even a competing broker in the area where the motel is located. Find a bulldog who has a record of lots of sales.....and has a GRI designation, at least. Anyway, wishing you well.....don't forget...in real estate..."It ain't over, till it's over"...to quote Ken Trummel....or was that Yogi Berra? My Best, Chet Nichols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ken Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 Greetings All, I feel that Tom's post was on the mark. He also posted some good advice. For all of us to adhere. At times, all of us should watch what we say, how we say it, and to choose are words carefully. Attitude and demeanor can sometimes prohibit the future successes of projects that we attempt to accomplish. After all, many folks are listening to and watching us, in our pursuits to preserve and restore the Mother Road, and all Two Lane Highways in America. Chet - if you're gonna quote me, at least spell my name right. Thanks Broski! Q;) Ken 'the landrunner' Turmel "Never let go. Never break the chain, in the Circle of Support." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chetnichols@aol.com Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 Nicole, I agree...it is one of the MOST beautiful sections of the "Old Route 66"....roadies are doing themselves a dis-serve not taking the "old road" from Kingman to Oatman (and visa versa). And what great stories there are about that old section of road....... ANYTIME I am traveling "the southern route"....I always jump off on this section. Oatman is a "blast from the past"....so to speak.....keep the beers cold...I'll be there soon. I do the complete stretch from Chicago to California at least two times a year (and back).....so maybe have a six-pack on hand.... My Best, Chet Nichols ....friend of Yogi Berra and Ken Trum-m-m-m-m-el Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rwarn17588 Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <thelandrunner@y...> wrote: > Greetings All, > > Attitude and demeanor can sometimes prohibit the future successes of > projects that we attempt to accomplish. But more often, attitude and demeanor can help one succeed. Ron Warnick Belleville, IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nicole Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 Hi all- Thought I'd give an update on Cool Springs Camp east of Oatman on Route 66. Wow that building is coming along nicely!! The drinks and such that are supposed to be sold there are still not up, but the process is definitely coming along. I talked to a handyman who was there the day we stopped by. They're having problems getting electricity there, and he blames in on BLM giving them problems, but then I talked to trusty Elaine who told me complete opposite and that the BLM has nothing to do with that type of thing, or with what is supposedly going on with the electricity situation at Cool Springs. This man also told me that he often camps out in a tent across the street with his gun by his side in case vandals to try to do anything to the building....so I think it would be in my best judgement to take Elaine's words a little more seriously than his! ha ha! Nice guy, but whew..... Next time you're hitting Route 66 in Arizona, be sure to check out Cool Springs Camp.....what a great place that has come back to life, and of course in one of the most awesome geographical locations (in my opinion)on the road! Nicole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Ross Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Hi Everyone, I spoke on the phone Friday with Senor Waillis and learned that he was packing up to head for the house, so please do not call or send any more stuff to the hospital. He will be involved in physical therapy for some time yet, but will continue his recovery from home. He sounded quite happy about it. Once again, he asked me to express his deep appreciation for all the cards, letters, calls, flowers, and visitors. I know first-hand from visiting him at St. John that his spirits were greatly lifted by all the cheery goodies covering the walls of his room. I'll pass on any additional information as it comes my way. Thanks. Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jenniferrt66 Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, oldroad <oldroad@s...> wrote: > I am that individual that stated that this email list does not mention much > in the way of preservation on it's main page. > > Reread my post. > > Tom, where in my post did it state that I was talking about the magazine?! > My statement said that nowhere on the main page of this yahoogroup does it > have a statement of preservation. Hi Kevin, The group's description on the home page is simply a basic introduction to the group. It's not intended to be a mission statement or an all-encompassing description of what the magazine or the group stands for, or what we should discuss. The American Road Yahoo group is a complement to the magazine. In terms of topics of discussion, this is a place to discuss your favorite American roads and the interesting people, places and sights to see along those roads; those places can be in various stages of existence: whether they are no longer there or need to be preserved or anywhere in between. Someone could post about their cross country trip on U.S. 40 back in 1954 or it could have been yesterday! We aren't extremely strict in terms of the minute details of a person's post, but we do ask that all posts conform to what we have outlined in our "SPEED LIMITS." Posting messages from other U.S. highway groups is certainly OK if it's on topic and in accordance with the SPEED LIMITS (which has so far been the case). I know some of us are on the same groups, so we will see those messages more than once. But not everyone is on all the groups, so the more people to be reached, the better. However, at the same time we do want this group to be diverse and not all about any particular road or for it to become nothing but duplicate posts from other groups. If we all see the same posts on many different lists, we'll get bored quickly! The only way to make this list unique is to encourage discussion on a wide variety of roads - and there's a lot of American Roads out there! So, I'd like everyone put on your thinking caps and come up with a story to tell us about your road trips! What diners do you like to visit? Do you like to drive at night? During the day? Do you like neon signs? Snake farms? Mountains? Deserts? Swamps? How do you feel when you're on a road trip, and you don't have a reservation – the excitement as you scrutinize all the neon signs looking for that classic old motel to rest your weary bones! Jennifer Bremer American Road List Co-Host http://www.roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jenniferrt66 Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Greetings folks! It's time once again to post the AMERICAN ROAD "Speed Limits" for our little online group here. Please review! Because personal views so often differ, please familiarize yourself with our SPEED LIMITS, which set some boundaries and explain the atmosphere we hope to maintain. 1. NO FLAMING! Flaming is any derogatory or insulting remark directed at another list member. This does not necessarily include comments critical of persons outside the list, however, such as reporting actions by those who would destroy roadside landmarks. Just remember that the list is not a battleground for personal arguments. Acts of flaming will generate a reminder. Continued infractions will result in banishment. 2. Try to keep your posts on topic. Off-topic comments should be posted sparingly and labeled OFF-TOPIC. 3. Profanity & off-color jokes are forbidden. 4. Kindly keep your posts road-related and aimed at the group in general rather than one individual. Private email should be used for one-on-one chat. 5. Computers have made us lazy but we ask that you please make a real effort to only include parts of an earlier message pertinent to your response. Simply hitting "reply" wastes space and forces everyone else to scroll through threads that may get quite long. TO POST A NOTE TO THE LIST: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THE LIST: -go to the website at www.yahoogroups.com, or -email to AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com If you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop us a line! Your AMERICAN ROAD magazine list hosts, Pat & Jennifer Bremer AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Ross Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Greetings Everyone, To follow-up on posts by Thomas and Jennifer: Well said about American Road's purpose on Yahoo Groups, Jennifer. This group was not created as a preservation organization, though many of our members are involved in preservation efforts and preservation news is welcome and encouraged both here and at the magazine. It is not our intent, however, to try to keep score on who posts what on which group. It is also not our goal to try to mimic or scoop what may show up elsewhere. We are not in competition with anyone. The magazine, on the other hand, has a strong leaning toward preservation, as Thomas pointed out. Make no mistake about that. And while it is not a requirement that only subscribers belong to this group, we hope that everyone will at least consume a couple of issues to get a better feel for what we're all about. We think it's a darn good read. Here's hoping each and every one of you have a very happy holiday season! Jim Ross Managing Editor American Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drivewdave@aol.com Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 In a message dated 12/4/03 2:03:56 PM, jabremer66@aol.com writes: << 1. NO FLAMING! Flaming is any derogatory or insulting remark directed at another list member. >> dave here, just wondering...I don't suppose this means we can insult the entire group...just wondering there has been little of interest to me lately here, lots of petty concerns... but I did enjoy the latest from new member TJ titled backroading... He writes Would any of you care to take up this kind of discussion? I'd love to learn of other really appealing drives. He was referring to travelogues and descriptive road writing. Well I would enjoy this, I get bored reading about some motel or diner, people seem more interested in the roadside than in the actual road, this is typical. The driving experience is not static and it is good to remember that a road GOES somewhere. Now for what some may consider a group insult, I keep reading about the 'dreadful interstate' and the 'boring superslab' while I believe the modern freeway represents the pinnacle of more than two thousand years of highway engineering. (you can still drive on the original Via Appia) Maybe if I had to live in the midwest I would feel different about miles of monotony but here in WA some of the best views of the landscape are available from good old I-5... I watched them build the thing back in the 60s and have tracked the modifications since, it is never boring. I don't suppose it just might be possible that the bias towards two-lane roads is a bit narrow minded and might betray a lack of imagination. (this rules out the famous Hooker Cut on 66 by the way) Let's just say everybody has their subjective likes and dislikes... I am a fan of ALL roads period, I love to drive and see things, if you think this post is too insulting drop me from the list...sincerely, dave ps let's see more travelogues like from TJ and the Upper Peninsula memories from Nicole recently, you can expect some from me too (if I'm still on the list that is...) pps I have been collecting postcards actively for thirty years and have accumulated thousands of road and highway images and I don't mean roadside, I mean the road as in what you drive on. This is partly why my spectrum of enthusiasm is wider than that of the 'two-laners' and the 'roadsiders' and I make no apology for it. ppps the post a few weeks back that explained the realities of real estate transactions with LOTS OF CAPITAL LETTERS was quite entertaining and it was refreshing to read something straightforward that did not mince words. pppps My friend the late Jack Carpentier (a great fan of the Lincoln Highway who some of you may remember) once described a certain stretch of interstate as 'magnificent,' he was referring to the loops on Emigrant Hill east of Pendleton OR. Jack was also cognizant of the fact that the first freeways are definitely antiques now... Anybody who has driven Arroyo Seco Pkwy can attest to this and there are plenty of other examples. A friend who lived in Pasadena when it was new said people called it 'the speedway' which makes sense considering it was the only limited access highway in the area at the time. final ps there are no boring roads, only boring people...down in flames, dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shunpiker15 Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Hullo, everyone. TJ here. I am glad to have found your group. Since I really, really enjoy traveling old roads -- for their scenic or historic or cultural appeal. Like Connecticut Route 146, which meanders beautifully through salt marshes just a couple of miles south of dreadful I-95. And Pennsylvania Route 897, which goes north-south through Lancaster County, a much more enjoyable axis there than the busy east-west ones. And the original Battle Road at Concord, Mass., which goes through lush woods and alongside old stone walls and past 250-year old buildings, all parallel to modern Route 2A. (Except 2A does give us Ralph Waldo Emerson's house and Louisa May Alcott's house and, if you look closely, Ephraim Bull's house -- he the gentle farmer who developed the Concord Grape so that we can have that fine American delicacy, peanut butter and jelly on white.) Would any of you care to take up this kind of discussion? I'd love to learn of other really appealing drives. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drivewdave@aol.com Posted April 13, 2003 Report Share Posted April 13, 2003 Dave again (after a pique experience) TJs' fine narrative (backroading) reminds me of a short story I read (and reread) a few years back, I don't exactly recall the title but it was about a visit to Concord written as a gentle parody in the style of Thoreau, the author was E. B. White (Charlottes' Web, The Elements of Style) and it was published ca. 1939. White wrote it as a sort of an affectionate letter to Henry telling if he were alive how amazed he would be to ride along a smooth highway at 50 MPH, the walk from Walden into Concord which took Henry an hour or so is now a five minute drive and Walden Pond is a state park with hundreds of picnicers and bathers with their litter and so on. (I am guessing maybe the title is something like 'A letter to Henry' but I am likely wrong on this.) There are plenty of delights in the story and it gives a good description of the times and the social attitudes and is also an ironic commentary on 'progress' and the disappearing past. for anybody in that nostalgic frame of mind there is a song by Dave Frishberg, The Dear Departed Past, which is a list of vanished cultural phenomena, one line is '37 Fords, complete with running boards.' It's fun to see running boards making a comeback on the SUVs let's hope TJ and the others inspire the rest of us to contribute something interesting too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roadmaven@aol.com Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Evening folks! We spent a nice day photographing some of the various architecture in downtown Indianapolis Saturday. Among those were of US 40/The National Road. Of interest to me was the old US 40 bridge that once carried traffic across the White River on the near westside of downtown Indy. Built in 1916, it was in service for nearly 70 years before being closed in the early 1980's. At that time, US 40 was re-routed south to make way for the new Indianapolis Zoo. Nearly half a mile of original National Road was wiped out in favor of homes for monkeys and elephants. However, the bridge was kept intact, but sat dormant for nearly 10 years before it was converted to an immaculate pedestrian bridge complete with a grassy median and various pieces of artwork. It is also part of a network of biking/jogging trails throughout Indianapolis. There is an interpretive display on the west entrance of the bridge detailing some of the various river crossings at this location throughout history. One thing that I'm going to look into is why there aren't any of the new "Historic National Road" signs on the bridge that are now dotting the landscape in Indiana from Richmond to Terre Haute. I'll try to get in touch with the Indiana National Road Association to see what their stance is on this. Seems only fitting they should have one at each end of the bridge, instead of at the bridge south of the historic one. If you want to be techinical about it, that new bridge and the re-routed alignment of Washtington St. were never the National Road at all! I've posted a few of the pics to our Photo Section at our website. Click on the link here: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/lst I have them posted in the "National Road-Indianapolis" folder. Enjoy! Pat Bremer Speedway, IN List Host, AMERICAN ROAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mockturtlepress <americanroad@mo Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Greetings to All: I see Chicago's Lakeshore Drive has made mention on this list. I was thrilled to see this, as I once lived just off the drive at Irving Park. It is a great road (as is U.S. 2). So many roads. Never enough time. Dave, since your earlier post, I have been wondering if the early road you drove between Ellensburg and Yakima was, in fact, early Yellowstone Trail. I believe that was probably the case. Perhaps someday you and I will find a chance to sit down at Rose's or the Poodle Dog and talk more. Also: A quick "hello" to Ypsi-Slim. I am Detroit-born myself. Michigan does have some great drives. Now, on to this morning's business. . . . A few days ago I posted a message to the effect that we would soon be prepared to officially welcome our AMERICAN ROAD crew. I am very pleased--and most proud--to announce that the time has come to do this. So, on behalf of AMERICAN ROAD, I would like to extend a warm welcome to the following members of our magazine staff: FRANK BRUSCA, Contributing Editor. Currently working on an update of George Stewart's book, U.S. 40. Frank will head our regular department, "Our National Road." GREGORY M. FRANZWA, Contributing Editor. Founder of the current Lincoln Highway Association and author of the Lincoln Highway series. Gregory will head our department, "Thinkin' Lincoln." ALICE and JOHN RIDGE, Contributing Editors. Authors of INTRODUCING THE YELLOWSTONE TRAIL: A GOOD ROAD FROM PLYMOUTH ROCK TO PUGET SOUND, 1912- 1930. Alice and John will head our department, "On the Yellowstone Trail." MICHAEL WALLIS, Contributing Editor. Three-time Pulitzer Prize nominee. Historian and author of ROUTE 66: THE MOTHER ROAD. Michael will write feature stories. MICHAEL STUCKEY, National Parks Consultant. Active NPS ranger at Petrified Forest National Park. Michael will serve AMERICAN ROAD as a historian in matters involving the NPS. ARTHUR KRIM, Geographer. Past president of the Society for Commercial Archaeology. Arthur will serve AMERICAN ROAD in his capacity as a geographer and a preservationist. ROBERT C. CLAAR, Roadside Consultant. AMERICAN ROAD plans to resurrect Bob's father's classic Route 66 business, the Hitching Post, in a new form. The original business sat on Route 66 east of Moriarty, New Mexico. JERRY McCLANAHAN, Feature Writer and artist. Co-creator of ROUTE 66: THE MAP SERIES. In addition to writing stories, Jerry will supply American Road with custom-drawn maps to illustrate articles. PAT and JENNIFER BREMER, E-group Moderators. Our dedicated roadies who created our E-group site so friends could talk AMERICAN ROADS (and about American roads) on the world-wide web. Additionally, I want to recognize the core group at Mock Turtle Press/ American Road including JIM ROSS (Managing Editor); ASHLEY BOGLE ARHART (Art Director); REBECCA REPP (General Manager); ARIELE HUFF (Associate Editor); CURTIS OSMUN (Website Editor); GRANT SHARPE (Production Supervisor); SUSAN TORNGREN (Advertising Manager); TAMMIE SLATER (Advertising Representative); SHERRI NEILSEN-HAZARD and LYNETTE NEILSEN (Marketing), and BECKY RANSOM (our former "Highway Hostess"). Photos and bios for most of our crew have been posted on our website. Those currently absent will be added soon, as may a number of others not listed here. Our current crew is spread out over nine states. We will certainly continue to grow. I hope you will take some time to visit our website, "Meet the Mock Turtles," as we say, and get to know our people. My friends, I believe we are beginning one hell of a ride! Thomas Repp Executive Editor American Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roadmaven@aol.com Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Ypsi, E-mail me regarding the US 40 Today book. I tried to e-mail you off-list, but it was bounced back at me. Thanks! Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RWarn17588@aol.com Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 I used to live in Dixon, Ill. Worked at a newspaper up there for three years. Anyway, I believe it's called the Dixon Memorial Arch. It was built shortly after World War I as a memorial for war dead. It's been altered several times (widened to accomodate the road, raised to accommodate trucks), but the appearance essentially remains the same. Better yet, it's trimmed in red neon lighting. It looks pretty cool at night. Then there's the Salute to Freedom statue a stone's throw away. It's some godawful sculpture that some Polish guy commissioned from his design as a salute to Ronald Reagan and the fall of communism in Eastern Europe The locals hate the thing. I thought I had a cruel mind, but when I asked a lifelong Dixon resident what the statue reminded her of, her response was the same as mine: "It's a [phallus] with wings." Ron Warnick Belleville, IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 While this doesn't have a darn thing to do with the old highway system - except as a minor memorial to a quieter time BEFORE paved roads, I think it's worth passing along for contemplation!! http://web3.foxinternet.net/safe/dirtroads/dirt_roads.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 What is this book? New? if so I would like to know about it--the last thing I saw on 40 was the two vol. national road set. Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: roadmaven@aol.com To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Digest Number 39 Ypsi, E-mail me regarding the US 40 Today book. I tried to e-mail you off-list, but it was bounced back at me. Thanks! Pat Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butko, Brian A. Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Just posted this to the Lincoln Highway board and thought you folks would want to know too. ~Brian It's official: "Greetings from the Lincoln Highway" will be published by Stackpole Books in 2005. It will have hundreds of postcards and photos, maps showing the various routings, and a foreword by Drake Hokanson. At about 250 pages with color, the closest similar book would be Michael Wallis' "Route 66: The Mother Road." I've mulled this book over for a decade but wanted to make sure it would be special. What finally helped it gel was my interest in what people wrote about the road in memoirs and on postcards - hence the title. Some are funny, some tell about road conditions, but all of them get us a little closer to the world that once existed along the highway. Here are a couple of my favorites: May 31, 1944 Pathfinder Hotel, Fremont, Neb. Dear Mary I have a very nice room here. Tonight I have a radio and it seems so good. Wish I owned one.... The sky is lovely pink now. It?s 9 P.M. and I have my washing to do darn it all. Lots of love ‹ Nancy Aug. 3, 1960 Virginia Street, Reno, Nev. Dear Bill, We?re just now recuperating from travelling across the Salt Desert last nite ‹ from 6:15 PM to 6:15 AM! Yours, Judy I have a year til deadline but already feel the pressure of trying to cover some 4,000 miles of original road and bypasses! Please feel free to send your recommendations. I can also scan old photos or postcards if you have some you think are interesting - I have hundreds but I'm always amazed by what else is out there. I have a few images online at http://www.brianbutko.com/lh.html including the little strip maps from Texaco's 1929 promotional booklet. Brian Butko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim conkle Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 Brian, Sounds great. We roadies will look forward to buying and reading the book. You should ask Michael to do your introduction in the book. James M. Conkle, Executive Director California Route 66 Preservation Foundation P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760-868-3320 760-617-3991 cell 760-868-8614 fax jim@cart66pf.org www.cart66pf.org -----Original Message----- From: Butko, Brian A. [mailto:babutko@hswp.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:00 AM To: American Road Yahoo Group Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] New Lincoln Highway book Just posted this to the Lincoln Highway board and thought you folks would want to know too. ~Brian It's official: "Greetings from the Lincoln Highway" will be published by Stackpole Books in 2005. It will have hundreds of postcards and photos, maps showing the various routings, and a foreword by Drake Hokanson. At about 250 pages with color, the closest similar book would be Michael Wallis' "Route 66: The Mother Road." I've mulled this book over for a decade but wanted to make sure it would be special. What finally helped it gel was my interest in what people wrote about the road in memoirs and on postcards - hence the title. Some are funny, some tell about road conditions, but all of them get us a little closer to the world that once existed along the highway. Here are a couple of my favorites: May 31, 1944 Pathfinder Hotel, Fremont, Neb. Dear Mary I have a very nice room here. Tonight I have a radio and it seems so good. Wish I owned one.... The sky is lovely pink now. It?s 9 P.M. and I have my washing to do darn it all. Lots of love ‹ Nancy Aug. 3, 1960 Virginia Street, Reno, Nev. Dear Bill, We?re just now recuperating from travelling across the Salt Desert last nite ‹ from 6:15 PM to 6:15 AM! Yours, Judy I have a year til deadline but already feel the pressure of trying to cover some 4,000 miles of original road and bypasses! Please feel free to send your recommendations. I can also scan old photos or postcards if you have some you think are interesting - I have hundreds but I'm always amazed by what else is out there. I have a few images online at http://www.brianbutko.com/lh.html including the little strip maps from Texaco's 1929 promotional booklet. Brian Butko Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brownwho63 Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "roadmaven" <roadmaven@a...> wrote: > Ahhhh...it's giving me the urge to make another trip to 66 today like > we did last Saturday....a 3 1/2 hour drive just to have a couple of > Cozy Dogs (corndogs) in Springfield, IL. Can you say Road Psycho??? > > Nothin' weird about cruisin' Route 66 or any other U.S. two laner, Pat. Our friends from the Chi area, John and Kathy, once cruised '66 to Ted Drewes and back home again the same day just to get a frozen custard! (or "How a Sunday drive turned into a 12 hour trip on Route 66" as Kathy is fond of saying.) Still Cruisin' Route 66, Bliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 You be right - in fact in many places the old roads, while a tad slower than the mindless travel on the interstates, are more comfortable and relaxing. I have friends in Decatur, IL, and on my trips to see my daughter in Memphis I often stop in there for a day or two visit. I've found either U S 40 or U S 36 across Ohio into Indiana to Indianapolis, then 36 on to Decatur, to be a lot more relaxing. And what you sometimes trip over on the old roads - how many of you know about the Ernie Pyle (how many of you even know who he was??) museum about 1 mile or so north of 36 in Dana, IN - right on the IN/IL line?? Neat place to stop and visit and stretch the legs. Another good east/west road I've taken on my jaunts from Maine to Tennessee, after visiting my friends in Decatur, heading for New England is U S 24 across northern Indiana to Huntington - watch where you're going here, lots of one way in the wrong direction streets - then pick up 224 to U S 30 just to the west of Van Wert. If you are headed east about the only good way across Pennsy, is I-80, tho the old Pennsylvania Turnpike is not to bad once you get east of the I-76/I-70 mess. So word of caution here - don't follow 30 all the way to Mansfield - that last few miles is/was - they're working on it - heavily congested. One way around it is to go NE on OH 98 off 30 on the NE side of Bucyrus to 598 north to 224, then go east into Wadsworth and Akron on the interstate. I've also taken U S 79 out of/and into Memphis (real pretty drive up around Kentucky Lake) then 68 thru Bowling Green and Lexington to Maysville, KY, on the Ohio River. By the way, for those of you who have tried to get thru, around or even over, Lexington, KY, when I went thru there last Sept they have finally gotten their act together and bypassed the city with a major 4 lane interstate type bypass. You have to watch the signs, and the traffic is horrendous - read terrrible - esepcially the big rigs. And of course I've taken U S 51 many times between Decatur and Memphis - once you get into Tennessee it's 4 lane limited access from north of Dyersburg all the way into Memphis. Traffic doesn't start getting heavy until you get to Dyersburg, then mostly going thru the big towns of Dyersburg, Covington and pretty heavy going between Millington and Memphis. So happy cruising, wherever y'all go - THINK 2 LANE, and some of the old 2 lanes are now 4 lane. But still better than the interstate - not much traffic out there. Hudsonly, Alex B --- brownwho63 <wefly66@earthlink.net> wrote: > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "roadmaven" > <roadmaven@a...> > wrote: > > Ahhhh...it's giving me the urge to make another > trip to 66 today > like > > we did last Saturday....a 3 1/2 hour drive just to > have a couple of > > Cozy Dogs (corndogs) in Springfield, IL. Can you > say Road Psycho??? > > > > > Nothin' weird about cruisin' Route 66 or any other > U.S. two laner, > Pat. Our friends from the Chi area, John and Kathy, > once cruised '66 > to Ted Drewes and back home again the same day just > to get a frozen > custard! (or "How a Sunday drive turned into a 12 > hour trip on Route > 66" as Kathy is fond of saying.) > > Still Cruisin' Route 66, > Bliss > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doug Pappas Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 I've recently uploaded several photo galleries to my Website which may be of interest to American Roaders: The Lincoln Highway in Pennsylvania: Gettysburg to Ligonier in Postcards http://roadsidephotos.com/LH/centpenn01.htm Signs of the Nevada Roadside (motel, etc., signs along old Route 40 in Nevada): http://www.roadsidephotos.com/40/signs.htm The Signs of 66 (motel, etc., signs along Route 66): http://www.roadsidephotos.com/66/signs.htm Welcome arches across America: http://www.roadsidephotos.com/rp/arches.htm Enjoy! Doug Pappas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mike@catsupbottle.com Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 What is it about the American Road yahoo group that it is getting all this awful spam? Please don't think I'm thinking it's anyone's fault or roadmaven responsibility to deal with it or anything... it's just interesting to me that I wonder why it's always American Road. I belong to probably a dozen or so Yahoo Groups and this is the only one that this keeps happening to. Any ideas? Catsup Bottle Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mike@catsupbottle.com Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 And you know what else is odd. I guess it's just the thrill of doing it and knowing they shouldn't. I can't imagine posting spam like that to eGroups does any business for them... In a message dated 6/5/03 9:18:39 AM, mistyowl@hot1.net writes: << Mike, I belong to a couple of other groups and lurk on a couple. I am a Moderator on one. They have all been hit as well. I also go to several newsgroups that are on 4 different servers. They are all getting hit. It is not just this group not is it just Yahoo. In some cases, the Moderator may just be catching them and getting the messages deleted before most of the members get them. We had one post at 4 AM yesterday and as luck would have it, I was up early and caught it before anyone else saw it. The ones that are going around now, are joining, posting then disappearing. Like Bob said, if the list was moderator approved, that might cut down some, but there are still those that are willing to wait on approval, then post and disappear. Their addresses are usually bogus, so they don't care if anyone knows they are there. Schools out and the kiddies are all online playing. For 2 weeks I have been getting a record number of e-mails with viruses, etc. Things should calm down in a week or so. dona >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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