Guest rwarn17588 Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "cuon66" <oldroad@s...> wrote: > Yes. Amboy has been sold. > > Boots has been sold. It's status is up in the air, it doesn't look > good. The Boots has not been discussed as much or as recent here. > > Both of these are being actively discussed on the Route 66 yahoogroup > that some of you left months ago. > > Frankly, any efforts to help save the Boots or any business on 66 or > other old roads is somewhat fragmented by not reading posts on both of > these & other lists. > > It's time to put egos, hurt feelings & editoral differences aside & > all work to keep working together before we lose all these businesses > to razing & being replaced by corporate businesses. > > BTW, nowhere on the main page for this yahoogroup does it state > anything about preservation. Pretty much states: > > " Here you can pull up a table and swap stories, history and facts > about America's great historic U.S. highways. On this list, you will > be in the company of many of the leading road historians, authors, > artists and photographers in the nation. Our journey is ongoing. And > you never know whom you might meet. > > So join Executive Editor Thomas Repp..." > > I rest my case, > > Kevin I think this is a patently unfair criticism. Emily and I (among many others) have been working on preserving the Boots. The reason that developments aren't always posted here is because we simply *forget,* that's all. If you're offended by our busy schedules and poor memories, we apologize. And the "editorial differences," "hurt feelings" and "egos"??? I have no idea what you're talking about. I know several of the people who help run American Road and its group, and I'm certain all of them are supportive of preservation. I think your perception based more on fiction than fact. If I'm wrong, please elaborate. Ron Warnick Belleville, IL (who's a member of this group, plus Route 66 and Route 66 News and several others) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hank Hallmark Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 The January 2003 edition of the AMA member magazine, American Motorcyclist, Has an article [pages 22 thru 25] titled "The Highway That's Still The Best"--Story and Photos by Greg Harrison, AMA VP of communications He has written several Route 66 related articles for the membership. Here is the link [hopefully] to one on the Devil's Elbow. http://www.amadirectlink.com/magazine/2002/story4apr.html Greg can be reached at gharrison@ama-cycle.org if you wish to discuss Route 66 with him or thank him for the "exposure" to our Mother Road.... The AMA is promoting Route 66 thru their annual "Raising Route 66" tours. If you want addition information go the their website www.AMADirectLink.com There is an itinerary of the 2003 tour which might be some assistance to Route 66 business and organizations in planning. It might even help to contact Greg directly if the tour planning is not yet finalized. Hank Hallmark Wrightwood, Ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greatamericanrally Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 Hello, I am planning a cross country road rally that will take 100 cars from coast to coast & I wanted to hear your opinions on the best roads to utilize in the summer of 2003. The route will be roughly this: Washington, DC through Columbus, Ohio Indianapolis, Indiana Des Moines, Iowa Rapid City, South Dakota near (or through?) Yellowstone National Park through Salt Lake City, Utah Las Vegas, Nevada Los Angeles, CA I welcome your suggestions on what would make for an expedited, yet beautiful drive for everyone involved. As it is now, we will stop in every place mentioned except Columbus & Salt Lake which we would only be driving through. Also, is Jackson Hole, WY on this r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cuon66 Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 Ron, The posts about the Boots & more recent replies are on the other 66 group. The posts about the sale of Amboy were posted about 3 days earlier than on the 66 group. I think it's great that Helen took the time to post to all 3 groups. But, not everyone does that. Nowhere in my post did I discount the efforts of anyone, including Emily & yourself. I think you read too much into my single post! One lister on the 66 group makes some good points on that list that others not subscribed will never see. Yes, a number of people left the other 66 group due to "editorial differences," "hurt feelings" and "egos" over a period of just a few days. The group hasn't been that way, lately. Wouldn't you agree? Kevin > I think this is a patently unfair criticism. Emily and I (among many > others) have been working on preserving the Boots. The reason that > developments aren't always posted here is because we simply *forget,* > that's all. If you're offended by our busy schedules and poor > memories, we apologize. > > And the "editorial differences," "hurt feelings" and "egos"??? I have > no idea what you're talking about. I know several of the people who > help run American Road and its group, and I'm certain all of them are > supportive of preservation. I think your perception based more on > fiction than fact. If I'm wrong, please elaborate. > > Ron Warnick > Belleville, IL > (who's a member of this group, plus Route 66 and Route 66 News and > several others) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Frankovich Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Let me know more about the rally. My father and I have a collection of classic cars. Its always nice to take one out and give it a run. We are located in Los Angeles, so if we cannot participate we can at least give you guys a tour. --- "greatamericanrally <raceamerica@aol.com>" <raceamerica@aol.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I am planning a cross country road rally that will > take 100 cars from > coast to coast & I wanted to hear your opinions on > the best roads to > utilize in the summer of 2003. > > The route will be roughly this: > > Washington, DC > through Columbus, Ohio > Indianapolis, Indiana > Des Moines, Iowa > Rapid City, South Dakota > near (or through?) Yellowstone National Park > through Salt Lake City, Utah > Las Vegas, Nevada > Los Angeles, CA > > I welcome your suggestions on what would make for an > expedited, yet > beautiful drive for everyone involved. As it is > now, we will stop in > every place mentioned except Columbus & Salt Lake > which we would only > be driving through. > > Also, is Jackson Hole, WY on this r > > ===== Mike Frankovich __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rwarn17588 Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "cuon66" <oldroad@s...> wrote: > Ron, > > The posts about the Boots & more recent replies are on the other 66 group. > > The posts about the sale of Amboy were posted about 3 days earlier > than on the 66 group. I think it's great that Helen took the time to > post to all 3 groups. But, not everyone does that. > > Nowhere in my post did I discount the efforts of anyone, including > Emily & yourself. I think you read too much into my single post! But you pretty much put this group and Thomas Repp to task with the following post: <start clip> BTW, nowhere on the main page for this yahoogroup does it state anything about preservation. Pretty much states: " Here you can pull up a table and swap stories, history and facts about America's great historic U.S. highways. On this list, you will be in the company of many of the leading road historians, authors, artists and photographers in the nation. Our journey is ongoing. And you never know whom you might meet. So join Executive Editor Thomas Repp..." I rest my case, Kevin <end clip> Again, lack of Boots info on this list is because of poor memory on my part, not anything else. I'm sure others have the same problem. > > One lister on the 66 group makes some good points on that list that > others not subscribed will never see. > > Yes, a number of people left the other 66 group due to "editorial > differences," "hurt feelings" and "egos" over a period of just a few > days. The group hasn't been that way, lately. Wouldn't you agree? > People come and go from the 66 list for varying reasons all the time. Over what "differences" of this supposed exodus you're referring to, I'm not sure. The 66 list has never lost more than five people at a time in any one week since I've been on it in the past three years. And it keeps growing; the group had about 645 this summer. Now it's around 665. Just a couple years ago, there were about 350. Ron Warnick Belleville, IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sundayjohn66 Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Relax, boys. Multiple groups serve multiple purposes. If you read something on another forum that you feel is important, copy it and paste it into a post here. I don't think anyone will be offended if you do that. But this is not a Route 66 group. It is a group for people interested in ALL two-lane roads. This group may pick up some members who wouldn't be interested in a group focused exclusively on Route 66. Good for them. I don't see how it can be a bad thing to make the circle wider by having more groups that appeal to more people who are interested in different aspects of historic highways. And personally, I can understand why some folks would prefer this site to the other one. Different people like different combinations of personalities. And this one is lower-volume, which makes it easier for some folks to keep up with. I like the high-octane bunch over on the 66 group, but I can also understand how it might be overwhelming for some people to keep up with that volume of e-mail. To each his own ... and I don't think 66 or any other road is being hurt by the proliferation of groups dedicated to discussing old highways. If I did, I'd be the first one to stand up and yell about it. Emily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drivewdave@aol.com Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 In a message dated 12/2/03 2:07:45 AM, sundayjohn66@aol.com writes: << It is a group for people interested in ALL two-lane roads. >> just two lane roads? no four lane US 99 from 1928? just wondering...Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DougP001@aol.com Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 In a message dated 2/1/2003 5:16:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com writes: > > My alternative highway to Route 66 is U.S. 61, ramblin from (now) Wyoming > MN to Louisiana...the arch at the Missouri Arkansas border is something to > behold and if I had a computer that could put the pic on line I would do > so! Delurking for a moment... Here's a shot of that arch from my site: <A HREF="http://roadsidephotos.com/old/1992-706a.jpg">http://roadsidephotos.com/old /1992-706a.jpg</A> roadsidephotos.com has about 200 pages of travelogues from my drives along the old roads. It will eventually have a lot more images, organized thematically -- I'm slowly working my way through over 7,000 photos and 5,000 postcards. Enjoy! - Doug Pappas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rt66prods <rt66prods@earthlink.n Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, drivewdave@a... wrote: > Early freeways are getting to be antique too, > there is talk of historic preservation status > for the 1939 Arroyo Seco Parkway from Pasadena > to Los Angeles. The Arroyo Seco Parkway was officially opened on December 30, 1940. At its initial stage, it stretched from Glenarm Street in Pasadena to the Los Angeles River, near Avenue 19, north of Downtown Los Angeles, just north of Elysian Park. In 1942, the Parkway was extended through Elysian Park and to a location just north of Sunset Boulevard, still north of Downtown Los Angeles. In the summer of 2002, the length of the Arroyo Seco Parkway (including its 1942 extension) was indeed named a National Scenic Byway. There are plans / goals to nominate it for a National Register of Historic Places nomination. Many early freeways are coming up for Historic Byway and National Register eligibility. However, it seems unlikely that many will end up with National Register status, as most Transportation Department officials would be unlikely to have increased limitations placed on them. However, that could change over the next several years. Stay tuned. Scott Piotrowski Director, 66 Productions (www.66productions.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 That be it! Actually looks a bit cooler there than it does now...they have put up several yellow/black warning signs on either side of it, and somebody decided to clean the copper plates so they would look copper rather than blue...some may like this; I think they stick out like a sore thumb...the business inthe background is now a trucking business called TCB enterprises (homaging Elvis)...according to the article in the Liquor Control Board Magazine, it was built prior to highway 61's certification by the Road Improvement District of Mississippi County (AR)...as the road became more a major thoroughfare, the area around the arch (which is the town of State Line, MO/AR, "became a hub for truckers and travelers from around the country. There were gas stations, cafes, motels and travel stores, along with a liquor store, nightclub and pool hall. Gambling was allegedly prolific in the area, and Minnesota Fats was said to have stopped in the pool hall on several occasions. Gabby Hayes drew a big crowd of autograph seekers when he stayed at the motel..." (Agent Mike Kolb was the scriptor)...there is apparently a preservation group working on preserving the Arch which I will pass info on if I find out anything...thanks for the pic! Kip welborn ----- Original Message ----- From: DougP001@aol.com To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Digest Number 41 In a message dated 2/1/2003 5:16:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com writes: > > My alternative highway to Route 66 is U.S. 61, ramblin from (now) Wyoming > MN to Louisiana...the arch at the Missouri Arkansas border is something to > behold and if I had a computer that could put the pic on line I would do > so! Delurking for a moment... Here's a shot of that arch from my site: <A HREF="http://roadsidephotos.com/old/1992-706a.jpg">http://roadsidephotos.com/old /1992-706a.jpg</A> roadsidephotos.com has about 200 pages of travelogues from my drives along the old roads. It will eventually have a lot more images, organized thematically -- I'm slowly working my way through over 7,000 photos and 5,000 postcards. Enjoy! - Doug Pappas Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Ross Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Dave, I predict that you will be pleased with American Road magazine. We hold the roadbed itself in high regard here. As to your comments about interstates, yes, they are still universally scorned for the most part, but we all know the day will come when future roadies will seek out those old abandoned behemoths, just as we now seek out the old, abandoned 4-lanes. Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Doug, What a great web site you have - and I havn't even begun to really get into it. But you can rest assured it is now in My Favorites and just as soon as I get a moment, will browse thru it. Thanks for building a site like this for us to enjoy. Hudsonly, Alex B --- DougP001@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/1/2003 5:16:16 AM Eastern > Standard Time, > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com writes: > > > > > My alternative highway to Route 66 is U.S. > 61, ramblin from (now) Wyoming > > MN to Louisiana...the arch at the Missouri > Arkansas border is something to > > behold and if I had a computer that could put > the pic on line I would do > > so! > > Delurking for a moment... > > Here's a shot of that arch from my site: > <A > HREF="http://roadsidephotos.com/old/1992-706a.jpg">http://roadsidephotos.com/old /1992-706a.jpg</A> > > > roadsidephotos.com has about 200 pages of > travelogues from my drives > along the old roads. It will eventually have a > lot more images, organized > thematically -- I'm slowly working my way > through over 7,000 photos > and 5,000 postcards. Enjoy! > > - Doug Pappas > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box > 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email > to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ===== "We has met the enemy, and he is us" - Pogo Possum __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 There are a number of these parkways that perhaps should be preserved - or maybe they shouldn't. They were the forerunner of the interstate system. Two that I can think of at the moment, and I've driven both, are the Merritt Parkway in CT (I call that one a "Grouch Marx" road - drive it and You Bet Your Life!!). The other is the Taconic Parkway on eastern New York which runs from I-90 south toward New York City - I think it goes all the way down there - I do know it goes to Tarrytown, but not sure if it runs into the city. In any event it is a pretty drive, especially between I-90 in the north and I-84 in the south and has escaped the urban blight you find on the interstates. I-84, I-90 and I-87 literally surround it, thus leaving the northern section pretty much as it was 50, 60 years ago. Oh, yes, there is also the Garden State Parkway in New Jersey, but that is a fairly new road, comparitivel speaking, since it was authorized in 1952. It is considered one of the safest parkways. Taconic State Parkway - 105.3 miles, constructed 1927-1963. Web site: http://www.nycroads.com/roads/taconic/ Merritt Parkway web site: http://www.byways.org/travel/byway.html?CX_BYWAY=2452 Not your usual U S highways, but interesting none-the-less. Hudsonly, Alex B --- "rt66prods <rt66prods@earthlink.net>" <rt66prods@earthlink.net> wrote: > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, > drivewdave@a... wrote: > > Early freeways are getting to be antique too, > > there is talk of historic preservation status > > for the 1939 Arroyo Seco Parkway from > Pasadena > > to Los Angeles. > > The Arroyo Seco Parkway was officially opened > on December 30, 1940. > At its initial stage, it stretched from Glenarm > Street in Pasadena to > the Los Angeles River, near Avenue 19, north of > Downtown Los Angeles, > just north of Elysian Park. In 1942, the > Parkway was extended > through Elysian Park and to a location just > north of Sunset > Boulevard, still north of Downtown Los Angeles. > > In the summer of 2002, the length of the Arroyo > Seco Parkway > (including its 1942 extension) was indeed named > a National Scenic > Byway. There are plans / goals to nominate it > for a National > Register of Historic Places nomination. > > Many early freeways are coming up for Historic > Byway and National > Register eligibility. However, it seems > unlikely that many will end > up with National Register status, as most > Transportation Department > officials would be unlikely to have increased > limitations placed on > them. However, that could change over the next > several years. Stay > tuned. > > Scott Piotrowski > Director, 66 Productions > (www.66productions.com) > > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box > 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email > to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ===== "We has met the enemy, and he is us" - Pogo Possum __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 Yeah, it's me again!!! LOL U S 61 could be, descriptively, called the Blues Highway, especially the section in Mississippi. For it was on this highway that many of the great blues singers from the great delta cotton fields moved north in the 30's and 40's to Memphis (which gave us the "Memphis" blues, then to St. Louis (yeah, the St. Louis blues sound) and from there some moved west to Kansas City and of course north on 66 to Chicago - to give us the Chicago blues sound. It all came from the mother lode of blues, the Delta Blues, memorialized, I guess you could say, in the Delta Blues Museum in Clarksdale, MS. Some moved north on 51 - but the majority used 61. Hudsonly, Alex B --- Rudyard Welborn <r.welborn@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > That be it! Actually looks a bit cooler there > than it does now...they have put up several > yellow/black warning signs on either side of > it, and somebody decided to clean the copper > plates so they would look copper rather than > blue...some may like this; I think they stick > out like a sore thumb...the business inthe > background is now a trucking business called > TCB enterprises (homaging Elvis)...according to > the article in the Liquor Control Board > Magazine, it was built prior to highway 61's > certification by the Road Improvement District > of Mississippi County (AR)...as the road became > more a major thoroughfare, the area around the > arch (which is the town of State Line, MO/AR, > "became a hub for truckers and travelers from > around the country. There were gas stations, > cafes, motels and travel stores, along with a > liquor store, nightclub and pool hall. > Gambling was allegedly prolific in the area, > and Minnesota Fats was said to have stopped in > the pool hall on several occasions. Gabby > Hayes drew a big crowd of autograph seekers > when he stayed at the motel..." (Agent Mike > Kolb was the scriptor)...there is apparently a > preservation group working on preserving the > Arch which I will pass info on if I find out > anything...thanks for the pic! Kip welborn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: DougP001@aol.com > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 8:15 AM > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Digest Number 41 > > > In a message dated 2/1/2003 5:16:16 AM > Eastern Standard Time, > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com writes: > > > > > My alternative highway to Route 66 is U.S. > 61, ramblin from (now) Wyoming > > MN to Louisiana...the arch at the Missouri > Arkansas border is something to > > behold and if I had a computer that could > put the pic on line I would do > > so! > > Delurking for a moment... > > Here's a shot of that arch from my site: > <A > HREF="http://roadsidephotos.com/old/1992-706a.jpg">http://roadsidephotos.com/old /1992-706a.jpg</A> > > > roadsidephotos.com has about 200 pages of > travelogues from my drives > along the old roads. It will eventually have > a lot more images, organized > thematically -- I'm slowly working my way > through over 7,000 photos > and 5,000 postcards. 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Guest drivewdave@aol.com Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 The Memphis Blues is a also composition by W. C. Handy circa 1914. Also I am surprised you did not mention the early Bob Dylan LP Highway 61 Revisited. For those interested in the development of the music there is a very good radio show out of New Orleans that is syndicated on NPR, American Roots is the name of it. In the Seattle area you can hear it on KUOW 94.9 FM every Sat afternoon from 1 until 3. Music and driving is a whole area of culture unto itself and there are hundreds if not thousands of songs about cars and trucks and roads. Six Days on the Road by Dave Dudley made a strong impression on my as a child. One of my favorites now is the Tom Waits remake of Red Sovine's Phantom 309 which tells the story of a hitchhiker who gets a ride in a ghost semi-rig. Tom changes it some and one of the best lines is where he climbed up into the cab and "the dashboard was lit up like Madame LaRue's pinball machine" This closes the circle on Nawlins, Madame LaRue was a famous antebellum voodoo priestess in The Crescent City. Music goes a long way in creating mood, nostalgic or otherwise. It's the ideal companion on road trips through the past. I wonder if Route 66 would have the same hold on the collective psyche had the famous song not been a hit. Of course the TV show helped too. I am glad for American Road giving the rest of the nation its due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frank Brusca Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 Thanks, Thomas! I'm please to be onboard and in such great company. BTW, one of the great pieces of trivia about some of my favorite highways is that Routes 40 & 66 and the Lincoln Highway all have towns named Winona. Some things just boggle the mind. Frank Brusca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 So does 61 (in Minnesota) and 51 (in Mississippi). Hudsonly, Alex B --- Frank Brusca <frank@kingsfield.com> wrote: > Thanks, Thomas! I'm please to be onboard and > in such great company. > > BTW, one of the great pieces of trivia about > some of my favorite highways is > that Routes 40 & 66 and the Lincoln Highway all > have towns named Winona. > Some things just boggle the mind. > > Frank Brusca > > > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box > 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email > to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ===== "We has met the enemy, and he is us" - Pogo Possum __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Gassmann Posted February 5, 2003 Report Share Posted February 5, 2003 ** Mark your calendar and set your alarm clock so you can catch Downtown Collinsville, the World's Largest Catsup Bottle, and Big Tomato Mike on national TV monday morning! The nationally syndicated morning news show, "The Daily Buzz", will feature a segment with host Mitch English called "Mitch Does St. Louis." The Catsup Bottle piece should air around 6:30 am (central time) on Monday, May 5, 2003. Don't miss it! In St. Louis you can catch the Buzz on KPLR Channel 11. Other cities include Dayton (WBDT), Greenville, MS (WBWD), Green Bay (WIWB), Hattiesburg (WBH), Lansing (WBL), Peoria (WBPE), Quincy-Hannibal (WEWB), and Columbia, MO (KJWB). Will it play in your area? Check the Catsup Bottle web site for the complete list of 120 stations! http://www.catsupbottle.com # # # Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roadmaven Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 Once again, we had an uninvited slime join our list. For those of you on the digest, you shouldn't see the note today. For those of you accessing via the website, you shouldn't see it anymore. For those of you who did get it in your mailbox, my apologies. The note's been deleted, and the member removed and banned from the list. Sorry, but that's about all the power I have! Pat B. List Czar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bobby Worley Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 --- roadmaven <roadmaven@aol.com> wrote: > Once again, we had an uninvited slime join our list. For those of you > on the digest, you shouldn't see the note today. For those of you > accessing via the website, you shouldn't see it anymore. For those of > you who did get it in your mailbox, my apologies. The note's been > deleted, and the member removed and banned from the list. Sorry, but > that's about all the power I have! > Pat B. > List Czar That's not entirely correct Pat. You have the power to make this a Restricted Membership group, where all new subcribers must be approved by the moderator first. That would put a stop to it. Bob W. List Whiner __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. http://calendar.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bakerhab@aol.com Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 PRESS RELEASE Announcing an Open House at the Goffs Schoolhouse Museum and Cultural Center On June 7-8, 2003. June open house to be last event before summer hiatus. Open house events will resume the first weekend in October. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: June 2, 2003 FOR MORE INFORMATION: JoAnn Casebier Mojave Desert Heritage & Cultural Association 37198 Lanfair Road -- Goffs Essex, CA 92332 Phone 760-733-4482 email goffs@eastmojave.net Goffs Schoolhouse Museum and Cultural Center Plans Open House Weekends to Introduce Visitors to a Treasure of the East Mojave and a must see attraction on Route 66 GOFFS SCHOOLHOUSE MUSEUM and CULTURAL CENTER MONTHLY OPEN HOUSE EVENTS 2003 The Mojave Desert Heritage & Cultural Association announces monthly open house events at the Goffs Schoolhouse for 2003. The Schoolhouse and adjacent Cultural Center grounds will be open for public visitation the first weekend of each month from January through June and October through December 9:00 a.m. thr ough 5:00 p.m. (Remaining weekends are: 7-8 June, 4-5 October, 1-2 November, 6-7 December.) June open house to be last event before summer hiatus. Open house events will resume the first weekend in October. The Goffs Schoolhouse was constructed in 1914 and served the region until 1937, at which time the present school was built in Essex and the Goffs School abandoned. It is one of the few remaining structures in Goffs located on the original 1926 alignment of U. S. Highway 66. The school served the needs of families of railroaders, highway people, miners, and ranchers. The Schoolhouse was restored to its 1914 configuration by the Association in 1998. Some work is ongoing, but it is now fitted out with displays of artwork and artifacts depicting the cultural history of the Mojave Desert. There are many artifacts (old vehicles, mining machinery, and much more) on the adjacent grounds. To facilitate public visitation, the Association has published a "Guide to the Goffs Cultural Center" booklet for the convenience of visitors which is keyed to 40 numbered stations inside the Schoolhouse and about 100 numbered pegs around the grounds. With the aid of this interpretive booklet, visitors can spend several hours enjoying the displays on a self-guided basis. Picnic areas are available for visitors. On October 11, 2001, the Goffs Schoolhouse was placed on the National Register of Historic Places by the U. S. Department of the Interior. It is one of the few buildings along old U. S. Highway 66 in California and the only one-room schoolhouse in all of southern California on that prestigious national register. The Mojave Desert Heritage & Cultural Association was formed as a nonprofit tax-exempt corporation in 1993 with a mission to: "Research and educate the public with the natural and cultural history of the Mojave Desert regions through operation of a regional research center including a library and archives, restoration of historic buildings, interpretation of backcountry trails, publication of educational guide books and historical monographs and periodicals in concert with government agencies and people of good faith everywhere." The Mojave Desert Archives, situated in buildings adjacent to the Goffs Schoolhouse, embraces more than 6,000 volumes pertaining to the history of the Desert west, more than 700 taped oral history interviews conducted with desert "old-timers" with firsthand knowledge, more then 40,000 historical photographs of the Desert west, 4,000 historic maps, and much more. These materials are in special collections that are made available with advance arrangement to qualified students and writers doing in-depth research on the Mojave Desert. The Mojave Desert Heritage & Cultural Association is a nonprofit tax-exempt corporation. No charge is made for admission to the Schoolhouse and adjacent property, donations are welcome. To get there. From the direction of Barstow take I-40 east about 110 miles to a point one mile east of Fenner Rest Stop and exit the Interstate where a sign says "Goffs Road." Turn left under the freeway bridge and follow blacktop Goffs Road for 11 miles to Goffs. From Needles or Las Vegas Area take U.S. Highway 95 south (from Searchlight) or north (from I-40 up out of Needles) to the point where 95 crosses the main line of the Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway. Turn west on Goffs Road (south of the tracks) and travel 14 miles to Goffs. The Schoolhouse is on the North side of the tracks at the intersection of Goffs and Lanfair Roads -- for a positive identification, there are two windmills on the Goffs Schoolhouse property, the only ones in Goffs. Special arrangements can be made for visitation to the Schoolhouse by groups or at other times during the year by appointment. For additional information contact the Association at 760-733-4482 -- or email goffs@eastmojave.net -- or visit the Association's web site at www.mdhca.org. For additional information contact: JoAnn Casebier Mojave Desert Heritage & Cultural Association 37198 Lanfair Road -- Goffs Essex, CA 92332 Phone 760-733-4482 email goffs@eastmojave.net or Helen Baker 818-705-3930 bakerhab@aol.com ##### Note to Editor: Interview Opportunities: Dennis Casebier, Executive Director is available for interviews and to provide additional information about the open house and the Schoolhouse Museum and Cultural Center. Please contact Dennis Casebier at 760-733-4482 or goffs@eastmojave.net to arrange. Photo Opportunities: There will be excellent photo opportunities of east Mojave memorabilia and of volunteers working on projects around the grounds. Photos are also available at www.mdhca.org. >> >>end end end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drivewdave@aol.com Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 Pat, no need to apologize, that kind of crap is rampant. If anything we might want to apologize to our selves for being desensitized to the point where we tend to accept such things as normal. At any rate it takes us off topic so let's move on. Speaking of which the other day I found about a mile of old US 101 in pristine condition just like it was the late 20s, it only serves a few rural houses and does not connect to any sideroads so there is little incentive for the county to 'improve' it. Cement concrete, single slab, it doesn't get any better... Pat, please post the postal address of American Road so I and others can subscribe and not miss out on all the fun Also, Bulldog News in Fremont wants to carry your mag, you might be hearing from them. Thanks, Dave in Seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roadmaven@aol.com Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 Ahhhhh...thanks for that reminder Bob. I've been keeping my eye on a few questionable email addresses that have recently joined, but have yet to post. PB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 No need to apologize, Pat - these things come up like fleas on a dog. Something to do with this freedom of speech thing - otherwise we could string them up to the nearest light pole and then they might get the message. Thank you for taking care of the problem. I'm sure it will happen again - do what I do; delete and ignore. Hudsonly, Alex B --- roadmaven <roadmaven@aol.com> wrote: > Once again, we had an uninvited slime join our list. > For those of you > on the digest, you shouldn't see the note today. For > those of you > accessing via the website, you shouldn't see it > anymore. For those of > you who did get it in your mailbox, my apologies. > The note's been > deleted, and the member removed and banned from the > list. Sorry, but > that's about all the power I have! > > Pat B. > List Czar > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. http://calendar.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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