Guest roadmaven@aol.com Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 Howdy folks....I had a nice 3-day weekend in Oklahoma this past weekend to get my "fix" of 66. What originally was going to be a Saturday of working with Laurel at Afton Station turned out to be a nice tour of Tulsa. Of course by not working at the station this weekend gives me an excuse to go back for another weekend. Ron McCoy and Laurel gave me a great tour of the area where the festival will be in '04, as well as a tour of the old mansions scattered around Tulsa. On a good note for a Route 66 business, we had to wait about 10 minutes Saturday afternoon at the Metro Diner so we could have a seat for lunch. We had an even better dinner Saturday night at Cotton Eyed Joe's in Claremore with Marian & Ken Clark. A few observations from the trip: --The 66 Liquors sign in Pacific, MO is still standing strong --John's had a couple sets of fresh footprints in the snow from some curious travelers --The I-44 realignment project west of there looks like a major deal. A large amount of equipment was parked between the east & west lanes near the Beacon. Looks like access to the motel is nearly impossible now. Looked as if a good portion of the road leading to it had been uprooted. The forms for the new bridge(s) at the crossing in Arlington are up and sitting between the two existing bridges. I didn't see any evidence farther east near the Sugar Tree Rd exit of any construction work, so it's hard to tell right now where it's going to traverse. --Buffalo Ranch has taken a whole new look. Both buildings are now rubble and the new travel center is quickly coming to life with all four walls already standing. The Dairy Ranch is still standing and looks as if nothing's been taken out yet. --All is right with the world....I had my first concrete of the year at Ted Drewes on the way back Sunday afternoon. :-) Regards, Pat in Speedway http://theroadmaven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roadmaven Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Morning folks! As the sun is rising over the heartland, I'm confronted with a weekend full of tasks including changing the oil in the car, cutting the grass, cleaning out the shed, bringing my old desk from my dad's (I can finally get my computer off the family room floor!), attending my step-daughter's high school musical, and attending Opening Day practice Sunday at the speedway for the 87th Indy 500 later this month. With all this on my plate, I'm getting "right to it" by surfing the internet. I thought I'd do a search on AMERICAN ROAD to see what kind of info is out there. One site I found is an archive from a Washington radio station that had our own Thomas & Becky Repp as guests discussing Route 66 and AR magazine. The length of the show is about an hour with commercials and news. You can find it here: http://www.motorsportsshow.com/archive.asp Scroll down to the January 30th, 2003 show and click on the date and pray your computer has the correct media player. :-) Ahhhh...it's giving me the urge to make another trip to 66 today like we did last Saturday....a 3 1/2 hour drive just to have a couple of Cozy Dogs (corndogs) in Springfield, IL. Can you say Road Psycho??? Pat Bremer Speedway, IN http://theroadmaven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 Why are we giving this fruit loop web space. Her comments are NOT what this American Roads web site is all about, and comments like Mr. Worley's and others, only encourages these sick people to continue posting. Enough said. Hudsonly, Alex B --- Bobby Worley <bwcobra15@yahoo.com> wrote: > > --- pump_mystarfish13 <pump_mystarfish13@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > I am thinking about becoming an exotic dancer but > I am kind of scared about > > it. I recorded myself striping the other day on > camera and added it to my > > website > > Alright - this is starting to PISS ME OFF. I went > to the young lady's > website so I could critique her video and give her a > well-rounded, fair, > objective and completely unbaised opinion on her > possible future in the > exotic entertainment profession -- and I'll be > darned if she didn't ask me > for $29.95 a month on my credit card before I could > even get started!! Of > all the nerve..... > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to > Outlook. > http://calendar.yahoo.com > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. http://calendar.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bobby Worley Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 --- Alex Burr <hester_nec@yahoo.com> wrote: > Why are we giving this fruit loop web space. Her > comments are NOT what this American Roads web site is > all about, and comments like Mr. Worley's and others, > only encourages these sick people to continue posting. > Enough said. > > Hudsonly, > Alex B Oh brother -- I'm just having a little fun, light up Alex - just like your "Harry Hiney in Big D" quip a few days back. I'm sure Ms. "pumpmystarfish" is NOT reading these posts. Here is a clue for you: there IS NO MS. ANYBODY. What there is is some big fat hairy MALE pornographer sitting in his dark, dingy, little apartment SPAMMING THOUSANDS of newsgroups at a time, which are subscribed to by THOUSANDS of people, hoping for one or two bites. Here is clue #2: I never went to any web site... it was a joke, albeit a sickly one, but that's just my style of humor. So no one is "encouraging these sick people to continue posting". And in closing, we haven't given anybody any "web space". I'm sure Pat has deleted the posting off the group page. If the group moderator would close the membership list to approved members only, this problem would cease. Okay.. no more fun from me. Now in order to "redeem" myself, I'll throw out a little AMERICAN ROADS subject matter: In the latest issue of Texas Highways, June 2003, there is a great little article about a roadside attraction in Decatur, Texas -- a gas station built in 1927 out of petrified wood. Later they added a cafe and motor courts complete with adjoining carports. It has been restored to it former glory. The article and pictures can be found online at: http://www.texashighways.com/currentissue/...kingoftexas.php There. Have fun. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. http://calendar.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ron McCoy Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Thought that subject might get your attention!! :-) Actually, I just stumbled upon the following website and thought you all might be interested. Ron ____________________________________________ YouGuysAreStupid.com http://youguysarestupid.com In their own words, buddies John, Erik, and Andy are "freakin' nuts." That insightful bit of self-analysis encouraged them to lace up their walking shoes and head off on a 2000-mile, three-month, foot-powered adventure from Chicago to San Francisco. Why on earth would they risk their friendship and sanity by embarking on this grueling trek under the blistering summer sun? Frankly, they're bored. Via this "old- school" mode of travel, these 20-somethings hope that chance, the natural elements, and their periodic ramblings will provide compelling entertainment for the masses. By August, they hope to be aboard a ferry to Alcatraz Island -- with friendship intact, photos to share, and stories to tell. Despite their self-mocking attitude, you sense the buddies are seeking enlightenment of sorts. Follow them along the way and see if they find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mike@catsupbottle.com Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 The McKinley Bridge at St. Louis was always an adventure! If I remember correctly, I think it was just recently closed... And the old Chain of Rocks Bridge ... ... I remember even as a kid with my grandparents going across it and thinking "man, this bridge sure is skinny!!... and what's the deal with this turn?!?" But, has anyone else ever crossed the Missouri River Bridge, heading north on Route 65 at Waverly, Missouri...? It's actually in really good shape... but in the darkness at night, in the fog, on the downgrade, with a little imagination and the sound of the ribbed deck... it can give ya chills!!! Catsup Bottle Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Definitely true...have gone across the Mississippi River Bridge and noticed a bit of a sway on a windy day...as for the Ohio River Bridge, there is a bend (over land) a la the Chain Of Rocks...I hope they have fixed it, but there was a period of time when the guardrails on the westbound side were missing at the turn and it is a l o n g way down...however, for roadies, it is a no miss! If I am getting boring/annoying let me know; I just like yakkin about my neck of the woods...Tsingtao, Kip -----Original Message ----- From: "Alex Burr" <hester_nec@yahoo.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Favorite drives > Kip, > > You can STILL come across the Mississippi on that > bridge - routes U S 60/U S 62. However, if you have a > weak heart it's not recommended - and neither is the U > S 51 bridge over the Ohio. I went west into Missouri > recently across tthe 60/62 bridge and damn near had > heart failure when I met a tractor trailer rig coming > east bound - on the levee - that is damn narrow thru > there. Across the levees on 60/62 and the 51 bridge - > here's a web site that will curl your hair: > > http://www.thom.org/gallery/unnat/ILCRtwobridges > > I'm not sure if these bridges have any names - all I > can find are Cairo Mississippi River Bridge for U S > 60/62 bridge and Cairo Ohio River Bridge for U S 51/60 > bridge. > > Hudsonly, > Alex B > > --- Mike Ward <flyboy1946@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Kip, > > > > It's great to hear people talk about a stretch of > > road that I spent a lot of time on while growing up. > > I spent my "formative years" in Marion, Illinois, > > about 16 miles east of Carbondale. If I had a > > dollar for every time I've been To Giant City (just > > east of the bustling metropolis of Makanda) I'm sure > > I'd have enough to buy both of us a few beers in the > > tavern of your choice. > > > > Like you said, Giant City is a great place for rock > > climbing and all kinds of outdoor activities. > > > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Rudyard Welborn > > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 3:58 PM > > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Favorite drives > > > > > > You used to be able to catch U.S. 51 right over > > the old Mississippi River > > bridge from Missouri (U.S. 60 crosses from > > Missouri then immediately turns > > right to cross the Ohio)..it'll take you through > > Cairo, Future City (where > > Henry Townshend, say he, has never been), all the > > hot spots...then on to > > Carbondale! There is a park there called Giant > > City which is really cool in > > a natural setting climb rocks sort of > > way...Tsingtao, Kip > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alex Burr" <hester_nec@yahoo.com> > > To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 6:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Favorite drives > > > > > > > Don't feel bad about 51 between Cairo and > > > Carbondale, Rob - I've been over that senction > > at > > > least 4 times in the last 3 or 4 years and I > > STILL > > > haven't hit that particular section. > > > > > > I think the problem lies in that the feeders > > into > > > I-57 around Dongola in the north and Mound City > > in the > > > south are designed in such a way as to feed you > > off 51 > > > onto the Interstate, even if you are watching > > for the > > > road. And once on I-57, you're sort of stuck > > for a > > > while, until you come to the U S 51 off ramp > > that puts > > > you back onto 51. > > > > > > I'm headed for Memphis in December - I WILL > > FIND > > > THAT EVER ELUSIVE SECTION OF 51 THIS TRIP - I > > know it > > > exists and will take photos to prove it!!! LOL > > > > > > Happy Traveling. > > > > > > Hudsonly, > > > Alex B > > > > > > --- Rob Carnachan <robcarn@msn.com> wrote: > > > > Kip, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the corrections regarding U.S. 61. > > I was > > > > working only from > > > > memory as I didn't have any of my maps in > > front of > > > > me. > > > > > > > > Looking at the historic topos of the route > > north of > > > > Memphis, I see what I > > > > did wrong back in '96 -- heading south on 61 > > past > > > > Meneshea, AR, I followed > > > > the modern road where it bends west over to > > the > > > > I-55/US 63 interchange > > > > instead of continuing straight on the old > > alignment > > > > next to the RR tracks > > > > through Stacy to Turrell and the merge into > > current > > > > SR 77. I ended up at > > > > the 55/63 interchange and just assumed that > > the old > > > > road had been buried by > > > > the interstate from there to the Mississippi > > River > > > > bridge. > > > > > > > > Now I'll have to go back and do that section > > all > > > > over again!! Which is OK > > > > as I also know I missed a section of original > > US 51 > > > > between Carbondale and > > > > Cairo, IL that same year when I drove the > > entire > > > > length of US 51. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rob Carnachan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 > > months > > > > FREE*. > > > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > SBC Yahoo! 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Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 ...as those I travel most with know, the tavern must serve Stag...Tsingtao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Ward" <flyboy1946@hotmail.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Favorite drives > Kip, > > It's great to hear people talk about a stretch of road that I spent a lot of time on while growing up. I spent my "formative years" in Marion, Illinois, about 16 miles east of Carbondale. If I had a dollar for every time I've been To Giant City (just east of the bustling metropolis of Makanda) I'm sure I'd have enough to buy both of us a few beers in the tavern of your choice. > > Like you said, Giant City is a great place for rock climbing and all kinds of outdoor activities. > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rudyard Welborn > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 3:58 PM > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Favorite drives > > > You used to be able to catch U.S. 51 right over the old Mississippi River > bridge from Missouri (U.S. 60 crosses from Missouri then immediately turns > right to cross the Ohio)..it'll take you through Cairo, Future City (where > Henry Townshend, say he, has never been), all the hot spots...then on to > Carbondale! There is a park there called Giant City which is really cool in > a natural setting climb rocks sort of way...Tsingtao, Kip > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Burr" <hester_nec@yahoo.com> > To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 6:44 AM > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Favorite drives > > > > Don't feel bad about 51 between Cairo and > > Carbondale, Rob - I've been over that senction at > > least 4 times in the last 3 or 4 years and I STILL > > haven't hit that particular section. > > > > I think the problem lies in that the feeders into > > I-57 around Dongola in the north and Mound City in the > > south are designed in such a way as to feed you off 51 > > onto the Interstate, even if you are watching for the > > road. And once on I-57, you're sort of stuck for a > > while, until you come to the U S 51 off ramp that puts > > you back onto 51. > > > > I'm headed for Memphis in December - I WILL FIND > > THAT EVER ELUSIVE SECTION OF 51 THIS TRIP - I know it > > exists and will take photos to prove it!!! LOL > > > > Happy Traveling. > > > > Hudsonly, > > Alex B > > > > --- Rob Carnachan <robcarn@msn.com> wrote: > > > Kip, > > > > > > Thanks for the corrections regarding U.S. 61. I was > > > working only from > > > memory as I didn't have any of my maps in front of > > > me. > > > > > > Looking at the historic topos of the route north of > > > Memphis, I see what I > > > did wrong back in '96 -- heading south on 61 past > > > Meneshea, AR, I followed > > > the modern road where it bends west over to the > > > I-55/US 63 interchange > > > instead of continuing straight on the old alignment > > > next to the RR tracks > > > through Stacy to Turrell and the merge into current > > > SR 77. I ended up at > > > the 55/63 interchange and just assumed that the old > > > road had been buried by > > > the interstate from there to the Mississippi River > > > bridge. > > > > > > Now I'll have to go back and do that section all > > > over again!! Which is OK > > > as I also know I missed a section of original US 51 > > > between Carbondale and > > > Cairo, IL that same year when I drove the entire > > > length of US 51. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Rob Carnachan > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months > > > FREE*. > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > SBC Yahoo! 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Guest brownwho63 Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 I have also crossed both Cairo bridges numerous times and always found the Mississippi River bridge to be the more frightening, especially the times I crossed in total darkness due to no lighting on the bridge. The old bridge has now been bypassed with a new one. The Ohio River bridge was actually not too bad after if was "redone" in the early 80's. The bend on the KY side was over land as Kip said and I never really concerned myself about that, as I was always more concerned about going over the water itself on the higher part of the bridge. I'm unaware of any particular names for the bridges, other than Ohio and Mississippi River. Another really creepy bridge is the old one at Cape Girardeau -- long, high, and narrow. Yikes! It's in the process of being replaced, a process several years overdue in my opinion. More creepy active bridges I have previously mentioned -- Louisiana, MO, U.S. 54 across the Mississippi -- Florence and Hardin, IL , U.S. 36 and U.S. 100 across the Illinois. Funny, I always dreaded those bridges when I was a kid and now actively seek them out. Still Cruisin', Bliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Ross Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Pat, The gallery of period photos that chronicle the construction of the Mackinac bridge in the 1950s are dramatic, to say the least. Nothing like working a couple hundred feet above the water with no safety line! That must have been fun on windy days. Thanks for posting the link. Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roadmaven@aol.com Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 The one bridge that always "did me in" was the Mackinac Bridge in northern Michigan: http://www.mackinacbridge.org/ (be sure to check out the bridge cams). 5 miles long...200 feet from the deck to the water. I'll never forget when I went over that beast for the first time when I was 5 years old. I thought that would be my last moment on earth! However, an interesting sidebar to it...back in the late 80's a gal driving a Yugo was blown off the bridge. The bridge has an open steel deck, and during a strong wind through the Straits of Mackinac, she decided to stop. Wrong thing to do! The wind came up through the deck, and lifted the Yugo (with her still inside) up & over the rail. I've read where the Mackinac Bridge Authority will actually have their people drive your car over the bridge for you. Kind of like a modern day Oatman Road, eh? Pat Bremer Speedway, IN http://theroadmaven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Michael G. Koerner Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 roadmaven@aol.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 09:35:14 -0400 > From: roadmaven@aol.com > Subject: Frightening Bridges > > The one bridge that always "did me in" was the Mackinac Bridge in northern Michigan: http://www.mackinacbridge.org/ (be sure to check out the bridge cams). 5 miles long...200 feet from the deck to the water. I'll never forget when I went over that beast for the first time when I was 5 years old. I thought that would be my last moment on earth! > > However, an interesting sidebar to it...back in the late 80's a gal driving a Yugo was blown off the bridge. The bridge has an open steel deck, and during a strong wind through the Straits of Mackinac, she decided to stop. Wrong thing to do! The wind came up through the deck, and lifted the Yugo (with her still inside) up & over the rail. I've read where the Mackinac Bridge Authority will actually have their people drive your car over the bridge for you. Kind of like a modern day Oatman Road, eh? > > Pat Bremer > Speedway, IN > http://theroadmaven.com I have heard of fearless, burley truck drivers being reduced to quivering masses upon sight of the Mackinac Bridge, requiring the bridge authority to have its own designated drivers drive their rigs across with the regular drivers safely hidden away back in the sleeper compartments. As it is, the bridge does have a very slow posted speed limit (IIRC, it is 40 km/h (25 mph)). -- ___________________________________________ ____ _______________ Regards, | | ____ | | | | | Michael G. Koerner May they | | | | | | rise again! Appleton, Wisconsin USA | | | | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | | _______________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ted Bachman Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Another great (frightening) bridge in that same area is the curving narrow truss bridge with steel mesh deck, that carries U.S. 45 over the Ohio River at Brookport, IL., just west of Paducah Ky. As I recall, the ribbing of the deck moves your vehicle from side to side as you cross. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: brownwho63 To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 6:53 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Cairo bridges I have also crossed both Cairo bridges numerous times and always found the Mississippi River bridge to be the more frightening, especially the times I crossed in total darkness due to no lighting on the bridge. The old bridge has now been bypassed with a new one. The Ohio River bridge was actually not too bad after if was "redone" in the early 80's. The bend on the KY side was over land as Kip said and I never really concerned myself about that, as I was always more concerned about going over the water itself on the higher part of the bridge. I'm unaware of any particular names for the bridges, other than Ohio and Mississippi River. Another really creepy bridge is the old one at Cape Girardeau -- long, high, and narrow. Yikes! It's in the process of being replaced, a process several years overdue in my opinion. More creepy active bridges I have previously mentioned -- Louisiana, MO, U.S. 54 across the Mississippi -- Florence and Hardin, IL , U.S. 36 and U.S. 100 across the Illinois. Funny, I always dreaded those bridges when I was a kid and now actively seek them out. Still Cruisin', Bliss Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RWarn17588@aol.com Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 The U.S. 52 bridge that links Savanna, Ill., and Sabula, Iowa, is pretty scary. Like the other scary bridges mentioned, it's got a steel grate deck (so you can see the water below), and it's really steep. The speed limit is 25. But it's worth going over, as Sabula is the only town on the Mississippi River that's on an island. There's a cool old general store there, nice old buildings, a good marina and a bed-and-breakfast. Dad, a former truck driver, told me that the bridge that went into Burlington, Iowa, was in such bad shape that they let just one big truck cross it at a time. I don't know whether they've improved it or not. Ron Warnick Belleville, IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RWarn17588@aol.com Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 If you're in the St. Louis area over the July 4 holiday, you can finally walk across the Eads Bridge in St. Louis. Finished in 1875, the bridge is being reopened for pedestrian traffic during the holiday, and it will be reopened for automotive traffic Monday. Don't try any weekend warrior stuff, though. The Eads will be open to vehicles only on weekdays, but will remain open to cyclers and pedestrians. It's a beauty, and it's grand that it's finally open again. The last time I was on it -- not counting the MetroLink light-rail system -- was about 1987, but I didn't cross it because I didn't want to pay the toll. It closed shortly after that. Ron Warnick Belleville, IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RWarn17588@aol.com Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Here's a link about Fair St. Louis, which has a couple links about the Eads Bridge on the page: http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/entertain...rtainment/Visit +St.+Louis/65628E897668B51F86256D35005A23BC?OpenDocument& Headline=Fair+St.+Louis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Steel mesh bridges tend to provide that thrill (moving your vehicle from side to side. They are even more fun in wet or freezing weather. I remember the old U S 1 bridge in Newburyport was that type of construction - when wet, or icy, don't try to stop - you won't until you get back onto the pavement. They have long since replaced the Newburyport bridge - and I have to say it is sad, in a way. The new bridge is a monstrosity - or looked that way to me when it first opened. By the by - that's another interesting and pretty drive - the Newburyport Turnpike, as it is called, U S 1 from Newburyport to Danvers. Still 2 lane (last time I went over it, still the big hills in the Ipswich area. This was the road one of the Stanley Brothers was killed on driving one of their Stanley Steamers at a rather high rate of speed. Hudsonly, Alex B --- Ted Bachman <tbachman@vmichicago.com> wrote: > Another great (frightening) bridge in that same area > is the curving narrow truss bridge with steel mesh > deck, that carries U.S. 45 over the Ohio River at > Brookport, IL., just west of Paducah Ky. As I > recall, the ribbing of the deck moves your vehicle > from side to side as > you cross. > > Ted > ----- Original Message ----- > From: brownwho63 > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 6:53 AM > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Cairo bridges > > > I have also crossed both Cairo bridges numerous > times and always > found the Mississippi River bridge to be the more > frightening, > especially the times I crossed in total darkness > due to no lighting > on the bridge. The old bridge has now been > bypassed with a new one. > The Ohio River bridge was actually not too bad > after if was "redone" > in the early 80's. The bend on the KY side was > over land as Kip said > and I never really concerned myself about that, as > I was always more > concerned about going over the water itself on the > higher part of the > bridge. I'm unaware of any particular names for > the bridges, other > than Ohio and Mississippi River. Another really > creepy bridge is the > old one at Cape Girardeau -- long, high, and > narrow. Yikes! It's in > the process of being replaced, a process several > years overdue in my > opinion. More creepy active bridges I have > previously mentioned -- > Louisiana, MO, U.S. 54 across the Mississippi -- > Florence and Hardin, > IL , U.S. 36 and U.S. 100 across the Illinois. > Funny, I always > dreaded those bridges when I was a kid and now > actively seek them out. > > Still Cruisin', > Bliss > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box > 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > Terms of Service. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JEFF MEYER Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 hI OUT THERE Todays Chicago Tribune (thursday)Has two stories init One beging on the reopening of the Eads Bridge in StLouis and the 2nd on the Lincoln Hwy.(If 66 was the Mother road dos that make the Lincoln the father road)Go to chicago tribune .com for the eads bridge story go to nation/world for the Lincoln go to leisure/tempo.all out have safe/fun 4thJuly.Jeff Meyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 I guess it is just my luck but I got one of those page cant be found messages...gotta name and author for the book? If you could pass it on I would appreciate it...Thanks Kip Welborn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken" <thelandrunner@yahoo.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:00 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] U.S. Roads, Highways and Waterways History Book > Greetings All, > > Thought that this book on E-bay might be of interest to some of the > roadies here: > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dllViewIt...20&category > =41897&rd=1> > > E-bay item # 3540898720 > > God Bless and Happy Trails. > > the landrunner > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thelandrunner Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Greetings, One diner I disinctly remember visiting every summer as a kid, was the Red Arrow in Manchester, NH. They specialized in muffins and I was always out the front door first when GrandDad said he was going. Undoubtedly, breakfast time was the most busiest, as sometimes the line of folks went out door. The place had a countywide reputation back then, similar to dedicated customers of the Krispy Kreme of today. The plain, bran or blueberry muffins, as I remember, were the top choice of the regulars that frequented the eatery. Does anyone remember the Red Arrow, or have any info about it? Or, even if it still exists? the landrunner --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@y..., Alex Burr <hesternec@y...> wrote: > Lordy do I ever remember those old diners - had > many a meal on the road in one or another along > the way. > > One interesting, and mysterious feature, of > these old diner was, like Mickey D or Burger > King, they had a sameness to them - yet unlike > the current crop they each were different in > their own style. Differences that could be > sensed, if not seen or noted outright. Maybe it > was the saucy waitress that laughed at your jokes > (that she'd heard a thousand times)s or maybe it > was, well, you had to experience it to know it. > > Hudsonly, > Alex B > > --- Gregg Anderson <dinermuseum@y...> wrote: > > > > > > American Diner Museum & Blackstone Valley > > Historical > > Society invite you to: > > > > Diners of the Blackstone Valley Lecture - Tour > > - > > Book signing and more. > > > > **Saturday October 26th: > > Diner History Lecture: > > The weekend of October 26-27th is becoming > > quite a > > event for Diner Fans, Historians and > > Preservationists. > > > > Starting Saturday morning the 26th at 9am with > > a > > Diner History Lecture by Daniel Zilka at the > > Blackstone Valley Visitors Center 175 Main St. > > in > > Pawtucket,RI. > > This event is free and open to the public. > > > > Book Signing: > > Following the lecture Author & Historian Gary > > Thomas > > will be conducting a book signing of his new > > book > > titled: Diners of the North Shore, the book > > details > > his seven plus years of research of the history > > of > > diners in the North Shore of Massachusetts. > > > > Diner Tour of the Blackstone Valley: > > Participants who reserve a seat on the tour bus > > will > > be treated to a motor coach tour stopping at 20 > > diners from Providence, RI. to Worcester, MA. A > > stop > > for lunch at a vintage 1950's Diner and later a > > stop > > for pie & ice cream at a Worcester Lunch Car > > built > > in the 1930's. You will see and be able to > > photograph > > diners, some recently moved to the area > > and are being prepared to open in the > > Blackstone > > Valley area. > > > > The Worcester Lunch Car Company on Southbridge > > St., > > Worcester was a major manufacturer in the diner > > industry. We will show you the City it's diners > > and > > the building where it all started. > > > > A tour of a Worcester Lunch Car undergoing > > restoration > > is planned. Rhode Island's newest diner > > and a look at the American Diner Museum's > > present > > home in Lincoln RI. and future home at the > > Heritage > > Harbor Museum in Providence, RI. will be on the > > tour. > > > > Reservations are required for a seat on the > > tour and > > tickets are $55.00 per person available buy > > mailing your check or money order by October 21 > > to: > > American Diner Museum > > P.O. Box 6022 > > Providence, RI. 02940 > > c/o Blackstone Valley Diner Tour > > > > ** Sunday October 27th > > > > Breakfast and Hard Hat Tour: > > Sunday morning at 10am a group of diner fans > > will > > meet for breakfast at Worcesters largest Diner > > the > > Corner Lunch Diner. > > After breakfast, those who are interested will > > head > > to Providence, RI. for a Hard Hat Tour of the > > Heritage Harbor Museum at 1pm. Reservations are > > required prior to this tour by calling > > 401-751-7979. > > > > > > **For additional information call the American > > Diner > > Museum at 401-723-4342 or email > > Dinermuseum@y... > > American Diner Museum > > www.americandinermuseum.org > > > > Blackstone Valley Historical Society > > > > > > > > American Diner Museum > > http://www.americandinermuseum.org > > > > > > ===== > > American Diner Museum> > > http://www.americandinermuseum.org > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & > > More > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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Guest David G. Clark Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 On the general subject of diners, the Illinois Route 66 Association is currently working on restoring one that is located behind the Riviera restaurant in Gardner, IL. Also, there's a streetcar diner still in operation in St. Paul, MN, I believe the name is Mickey's. Dave Clark Windy City Road Warrior http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rodw66@uplink.net> Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 The Red Arrow Diner not only exists, it has its own website: http://www.redarrowdiner.com/ > Subject: A Manchester, NH. Diner > > Greetings, > > One diner I disinctly remember visiting every summer as a kid, was > the Red Arrow in Manchester, NH. They specialized in muffins and I > was always out the front door first when GrandDad said he was going. > Undoubtedly, breakfast time was the most busiest, as sometimes the > line of folks went out door. The place had a countywide reputation > back then, similar to dedicated customers of the Krispy Kreme of > today. The plain, bran or blueberry muffins, as I remember, were the > top choice of the regulars that frequented the eatery. > > Does anyone remember the Red Arrow, or have any info about it? Or, > even if it still exists? > > the landrunner > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thelandrunner Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Yo Dave, We here in Oklahoma are restoring a diner also. It is one of those Valentine diners I believe. A very small one that seats only about 4- 6 people. Once the main restoration is complete, it will be moved to the west side of the property at the Oklahoma Route 66 Museum in Clinton, OK. Should be a dandy with lots of chrome and stainless steel. It won't be open for business, but rather for historic display. I'll send out a post when the project is complete. God Bless. the landrunner <http://www.postmarkart.com> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@y..., "David G. Clark" <olympia66@n...> wrote: > On the general subject of diners, the Illinois Route 66 Association > is currently working on restoring one that is located behind the > Riviera restaurant in Gardner, IL. > > Also, there's a streetcar diner still in operation in St. Paul, MN, I > believe the name is Mickey's. > > Dave Clark > Windy City Road Warrior > http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thelandrunner Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Greetings rodw66, Whoa! I thank ya much! You've just made my day! What a time machine memory that you've brought back. When I looked at that picture of the Red Arrow, I could almost see my GrandDad and I walking there. I feel like I've gone back to 8 years old this morning! Thanks once again. Good to know that some things haven't changed that much. I just love those coffee cups. I gotta git me one! ( God Bless and Happy Trails. the landrunner <http://www.route66postmarkart.com> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@y..., <rodw66@u...> wrote: > The Red Arrow Diner not only exists, it has its own website: > > http://www.redarrowdiner.com/ > > > > Subject: A Manchester, NH. Diner > > > > Greetings, > > > > One diner I disinctly remember visiting every summer as a kid, was > > the Red Arrow in Manchester, NH. They specialized in muffins and I > > was always out the front door first when GrandDad said he was going. > > Undoubtedly, breakfast time was the most busiest, as sometimes the > > line of folks went out door. The place had a countywide reputation > > back then, similar to dedicated customers of the Krispy Kreme of > > today. The plain, bran or blueberry muffins, as I remember, were the > > top choice of the regulars that frequented the eatery. > > > > Does anyone remember the Red Arrow, or have any info about it? Or, > > even if it still exists? > > > > the landrunner > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frank Brusca Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Greetings all- When I lived in the Baltimore area, I took diners for granted. My favorite teenage and college years diner was the Double T Diner on Route 40 in Catonsville. Since moving to the Midwest (Ohio) where there just aren't as many classic diners, I've really developed a deeper respect and admiration for them. These days, when I'm on road trips, I try for at least one diner a day. Some are disappointments (diners in name only) while others are real gems. If anyone is interested in viewing profiles on the ~315 diners found along Route 40 (A.C. to Frisco), go to: http://www.route40.net/culture/diners.shtml Eat up, enjoy and don't forget the Pepto Bismal! :-) Frank Brusca Westerville, Ohio frank@route40.net Route 40 - America's Golden Highway www.route40.net - Life doesn't happen along the Interstates. It's against the law. - William Least Heat-Moon Blue Highways (1982) - When we get [the Interstates] across the whole country, it will be possible to drive from New York to California without seeing a single thing. - John Steinbeck Travels with Charley (1963) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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