Guest Alex Burr Posted February 10, 2003 Report Share Posted February 10, 2003 Lordy do I ever remember those old diners - had many a meal on the road in one or another along the way. One interesting, and mysterious feature, of these old diner was, like Mickey D or Burger King, they had a sameness to them - yet unlike the current crop they each were different in their own style. Differences that could be sensed, if not seen or noted outright. Maybe it was the saucy waitress that laughed at your jokes (that she'd heard a thousand times)s or maybe it was, well, you had to experience it to know it. Hudsonly, Alex B --- Gregg Anderson <dinermuseum@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > American Diner Museum & Blackstone Valley > Historical > Society invite you to: > > Diners of the Blackstone Valley Lecture - Tour > - > Book signing and more. > > **Saturday October 26th: > Diner History Lecture: > The weekend of October 26-27th is becoming > quite a > event for Diner Fans, Historians and > Preservationists. > > Starting Saturday morning the 26th at 9am with > a > Diner History Lecture by Daniel Zilka at the > Blackstone Valley Visitors Center 175 Main St. > in > Pawtucket,RI. > This event is free and open to the public. > > Book Signing: > Following the lecture Author & Historian Gary > Thomas > will be conducting a book signing of his new > book > titled: Diners of the North Shore, the book > details > his seven plus years of research of the history > of > diners in the North Shore of Massachusetts. > > Diner Tour of the Blackstone Valley: > Participants who reserve a seat on the tour bus > will > be treated to a motor coach tour stopping at 20 > diners from Providence, RI. to Worcester, MA. A > stop > for lunch at a vintage 1950's Diner and later a > stop > for pie & ice cream at a Worcester Lunch Car > built > in the 1930's. You will see and be able to > photograph > diners, some recently moved to the area > and are being prepared to open in the > Blackstone > Valley area. > > The Worcester Lunch Car Company on Southbridge > St., > Worcester was a major manufacturer in the diner > industry. We will show you the City it's diners > and > the building where it all started. > > A tour of a Worcester Lunch Car undergoing > restoration > is planned. Rhode Island's newest diner > and a look at the American Diner Museum's > present > home in Lincoln RI. and future home at the > Heritage > Harbor Museum in Providence, RI. will be on the > tour. > > Reservations are required for a seat on the > tour and > tickets are $55.00 per person available buy > mailing your check or money order by October 21 > to: > American Diner Museum > P.O. Box 6022 > Providence, RI. 02940 > c/o Blackstone Valley Diner Tour > > ** Sunday October 27th > > Breakfast and Hard Hat Tour: > Sunday morning at 10am a group of diner fans > will > meet for breakfast at Worcesters largest Diner > the > Corner Lunch Diner. > After breakfast, those who are interested will > head > to Providence, RI. for a Hard Hat Tour of the > Heritage Harbor Museum at 1pm. Reservations are > required prior to this tour by calling > 401-751-7979. > > > **For additional information call the American > Diner > Museum at 401-723-4342 or email > Dinermuseum@yahoo.com > American Diner Museum > www.americandinermuseum.org > > Blackstone Valley Historical Society > > > > American Diner Museum > http://www.americandinermuseum.org > > > ===== > American Diner Museum> > http://www.americandinermuseum.org > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & > More > http://faith.yahoo.com > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box > 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email > to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ===== "We has met the enemy, and he is us" - Pogo Possum __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dona Posted February 10, 2003 Report Share Posted February 10, 2003 Happy Birthday to you :-) Doesn't seem that long since I was pestering you about when the first issue was coming out and now, I have two great issues to read and reread..;-) And may you have many, many more. dona www.mistyowl.com ----- Original Message ----- From: roadmaven To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:58 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Happy Birthday... to the American Road list! It was one year ago today we first turned on the neon of our little online greasy spoon. 126 members and 815 messages for the first year aren't too bad. YOU can ensure our future growth by passing on our link to your fellow Road Warriors and have them sign up: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/ Regards, Pat & Jennifer Bremer American Road List Hosts Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Austing Posted February 11, 2003 Report Share Posted February 11, 2003 I'm still trying to figure out if the old "stainless steel" looking diner is still in Ayer, MA. It was a favorite hangout for us Military Policemen from 624th MP Company at Fort Devens; especially on the midnight shift! Anyone know if it's still there? Mike Austing New Philadelphia, OH -------Original Message------- From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:11:23 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Blackstone Valley Diner Fans Weekend October 26-27, 2002 Lordy do I ever remember those old diners - had many a meal on the road in one or another along the way. One interesting, and mysterious feature, of these old diner was, like Mickey D or Burger King, they had a sameness to them - yet unlike the current crop they each were different in their own style. Differences that could be sensed, if not seen or noted outright. Maybe it was the saucy waitress that laughed at your jokes (that she'd heard a thousand times)s or maybe it was, well, you had to experience it to know it. Hudsonly, Alex B --- Gregg Anderson <dinermuseum@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > American Diner Museum & Blackstone Valley > Historical > Society invite you to: > > Diners of the Blackstone Valley Lecture - Tour > - > Book signing and more. > > **Saturday October 26th: > Diner History Lecture: > The weekend of October 26-27th is becoming > quite a > event for Diner Fans, Historians and > Preservationists. > > Starting Saturday morning the 26th at 9am with > a > Diner History Lecture by Daniel Zilka at the > Blackstone Valley Visitors Center 175 Main St. > in > Pawtucket,RI. > This event is free and open to the public. > > Book Signing: > Following the lecture Author & Historian Gary > Thomas > will be conducting a book signing of his new > book > titled: Diners of the North Shore, the book > details > his seven plus years of research of the history > of > diners in the North Shore of Massachusetts. > > Diner Tour of the Blackstone Valley: > Participants who reserve a seat on the tour bus > will > be treated to a motor coach tour stopping at 20 > diners from Providence, RI. to Worcester, MA. A > stop > for lunch at a vintage 1950's Diner and later a > stop > for pie & ice cream at a Worcester Lunch Car > built > in the 1930's. You will see and be able to > photograph > diners, some recently moved to the area > and are being prepared to open in the > Blackstone > Valley area. > > The Worcester Lunch Car Company on Southbridge > St., > Worcester was a major manufacturer in the diner > industry. We will show you the City it's diners > and > the building where it all started. > > A tour of a Worcester Lunch Car undergoing > restoration > is planned. Rhode Island's newest diner > and a look at the American Diner Museum's > present > home in Lincoln RI. and future home at the > Heritage > Harbor Museum in Providence, RI. will be on the > tour. > > Reservations are required for a seat on the > tour and > tickets are $55.00 per person available buy > mailing your check or money order by October 21 > to: > American Diner Museum > P.O. Box 6022 > Providence, RI. 02940 > c/o Blackstone Valley Diner Tour > > ** Sunday October 27th > > Breakfast and Hard Hat Tour: > Sunday morning at 10am a group of diner fans > will > meet for breakfast at Worcesters largest Diner > the > Corner Lunch Diner. > After breakfast, those who are interested will > head > to Providence, RI. for a Hard Hat Tour of the > Heritage Harbor Museum at 1pm. Reservations are > required prior to this tour by calling > 401-751-7979. > > > **For additional information call the American > Diner > Museum at 401-723-4342 or email > Dinermuseum@yahoo.com > American Diner Museum > www.americandinermuseum.org > > Blackstone Valley Historical Society > > > > American Diner Museum > http://www.americandinermuseum.org > > > ===== > American Diner Museum> > http://www.americandinermuseum.org > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & > More > http://faith.yahoo.com > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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Guest sundayjohn66 Posted February 11, 2003 Report Share Posted February 11, 2003 > John does seem dismayed that the motel was "on the market for two years > without any interest from the Route 66 community." I'd be dismayed by that, too, if it were true. However, I know for fact that it isn't. First, we did not hear anything about the property being on the market until late August 2002. That would be ONE year, not two. I know because I stayed at the Boots on the evening of Aug. 15, 2002, on my way out to Vega for the Roadie Gathering. If the property was for sale at the time, Mr. Ferguson had a damn funny way of showing it: There was no "for sale" sign, no realtor's phone number, no indication whatsoever that the property was on the market. Shortly after I returned from my trip, I learned that the motel was no longer accepting nightly guests, and Mr. Ferguson had just put it up for sale. We got that message late one night toward the end of August 2002. As soon as the realtor's office opened the next morning, we called the realtor and requested a packet of information about the property. As I recall, the realtor took his sweet time about sending it. When we finally received the packet, we called the realtor back and indicated that we were VERY interested in purchasing the property -- and I mean this in the sense that we were fully prepared to put our house on the market, quit our jobs, and start packing for Carthage that day if necessary -- but we would need some creative financing to do it, because we simply did not have enough home equity or other assets to make up 25 percent of the asking price. We suggested a contract-for-deed situation or some other type of seller-based financing that would allow for a minimal down payment or no down payment at all. The realtor basically told us Mr. Ferguson had absolutely no intention of entertaining any such offer. We asked him to run it by him anyway, and to let us know if the situation changed. That was the last we ever heard from the realtor, so we assumed he had talked to Mr. Ferguson and our offer had been rejected. Either the realtor never bothered to tell Mr. Ferguson about our interest in the property (which I rather suspect), or Mr. Ferguson is being less than truthful when he says there was no interest from the Route 66 community. There WAS interest. Perhaps Mr. Ferguson or his realtor did not consider our offer acceptable, but it was a serious offer, made by people who love Route 66, love the Boots Motel, and were willing to risk everything we had and then some to ensure that it remained alive and well and in the hands of people who would love it and care for it as diligently as Mr. Ferguson has done all these years. To say that the property sat on the market for two years with no interest from the Route 66 community is hyperbolic at best and dishonest at worst. I appreciate all Mr. Ferguson has done for the property over the years, but I find it extremely fishy that he is claiming he never heard anything from the Route 66 community after we talked to his realtor -- who blew us off -- and after the Deemers tried their level best to buy the property, and now we find out that this friend of the realtor has magically appeared out of nowhere to save the day and give Mr. Ferguson full asking price for a property that's been on the market for a year, just a week or so before someone in the Route 66 community stepped forward with an offer to purchase the property. I really have to wonder how many other nibbles that realtor received that he didn't bother to pass along to Mr. Ferguson. I smell a very large rat. Two of them, in fact. I think maybe it's time for me to contact Mr. Ferguson and find out what the hell is really going on here. If he never heard about my offer, I can name a realtor who is going to have a formal complaint filed against his agent's license. Emily Priddy Belleville, IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shellee Graham Posted February 11, 2003 Report Share Posted February 11, 2003 --------------------------------------------------- November 2, 2003 Contact: Bill Boll and Shellee Graham --------------------------------------------------- Hello 66ers, Do you know anyone with INTERIOR images of Coral Court cottages OR swimming pool photographs taken at Coral Court Motel (1941-1995)?? My documentary partner Bill Boll and I are completing work on our video documentary "Built for Speed: The Coral Court Motel." Last year we received a grant to help fund this Coral Court project. Bill and I are frantically looking for photographs of any INTERIOR ROOMS at the Coral Court Motel. Since I am the author of the book "Tales from the Coral Court: Photos and Stories from a Lost Route 66 Landmark, (2000, Virginia Publishing, St. Louis) -- I had some interior room photos, but they weren't that good, and they weren't very old. The Coral Court Motel lasted for 54 years (1941-1995) and that means there are photographs that exist from the decades of the 1940s, '50s, '60s, etc. We'd be interested in seeing your photographs, copying them and return them promptly. Of course, if you have any exterior photographs (buildings, the swimming pool, lifeguards, events, etc.) -- we'd be happy to look at those too. The OLDER the image, the better. Vintage images have been difficult to find, but we know people have them tucked away in photo albums, stuffed in drawers, in the attic or in the basement. To contact Shellee Graham, or Bill Boll -- the creators of the Coral Court Motel documentary, you can Email them at: Shellee Graham: shellee66@earthlink.net Bill Boll: bill@billboll.com To see a 3-minute preview trailer of "BUILT FOR SPEED: THE CORAL COURT DOCUMENTARY," please go to: http://www.billboll.com In the spirit of Coral Court, you can send your photos/stories/videos anonymously to: Shellee Graham P.O. Box 802 Bridgeton, MO 63044-0802 ---------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted February 12, 2003 Report Share Posted February 12, 2003 My thoughts: After driving the 90-94 artery through Wisconsin, I discovered that Interstates can be extremely scary especially if you run into a traffic clog out of nowhere and literally have to shoulder it to avoid an accident (some are not so successful)...gotta be careful and attentive no matter whether travelling the blue highways or the superslab...both have their advantages and both have their liabilities...also doesnt hurt to have a second set of eyes and ears by your side...Tsingtao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenniferrt66" <jabremer66@aol.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 2:59 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Safety: Two Lane Roads vs. Interstates I saw this interesting article about the safety of two lane roads by Dateline NBC and thought I'd share it here. http://www.msnbc.com/news/748422.asp On a Route 66 Yahoo group, there was a recent discussion about safety of interstates vs. two lane roads. I agree that Interstates have definite safety features over two lane roads (especially after reading this article). However, Interstates are by far 100% "safe." No matter how many safety features you design into any roads, it seems there are many more cars out there, and the people driving them are going faster and more reckless. I am, admittedly, not speaking factually or statistically - just an observation. It just seems like when you build straighter, "safer" roads, some people see that as an excuse to drive faster, thus negating the safety benefits trying to be achieved. In a related note, I don't know if anyone read about this - a semi truck driver was on U.S. 6 in northern Indiana and decided he needed to change his clothes. He'd probably been on the road for a long time, so that was probably a fairly typical thing to do. I would hope, however, that most drivers PULL OVER before they do this!! I guess this mindless fool didn't want to lose any time, and put his truck on cruise control anticipating a straight road ahead...wrong! There was a curve in the road and his truck flipped over. He was found, naked and unhurt at the accident scene. http://www.theindychannel.com/news/2629263/detail.html Jennifer Bremer http://www.roadtripmemories.com Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nicole Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 Hi all- Someone had mentioned that a reason why so many people left the 66 group was because of some of Emily's posts or subjects that were being debated that made everyone angry, disagree, or just have a chip on their shoulder that forced them to leave that group. The reasons why I left that group had absolutely nothing to do with those things, and it just happened to land on the timeframe when things were a little heated in that group. In fact.....I left that group for reasons that I will never post about or feel it should even be mentioned in any group anyway, and I was real sad to leave......but let me tell ya, I was so relieved and happy to join this group and find so many of the same people that I care so much about who are on the 66 list....also on THIS list! I won't have to worry about missing some of Emily's always intelligent, entertaining, funny, and enlightening posts.....nor will I lost contact with some of the people I care about the most, true friends I now have thanks to that list, and this one. People belong to both lists, one list, or not the other for their own reasons....but nevertheless the information about the road will eventually be passed around to all. Love to all roadies- Nicole --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "sundayjohn66" <sundayjohn66@a...> wrote: > Relax, boys. > > Multiple groups serve multiple purposes. > > If you read something on another forum that you feel is important, > copy it and paste it into a post here. I don't think anyone will be > offended if you do that. But this is not a Route 66 group. It is a > group for people interested in ALL two-lane roads. This group may pick > up some members who wouldn't be interested in a group focused > exclusively on Route 66. Good for them. > > I don't see how it can be a bad thing to make the circle wider by > having more groups that appeal to more people who are interested in > different aspects of historic highways. > > And personally, I can understand why some folks would prefer this site > to the other one. Different people like different combinations of > personalities. And this one is lower-volume, which makes it easier for > some folks to keep up with. I like the high-octane bunch over on the > 66 group, but I can also understand how it might be overwhelming for > some people to keep up with that volume of e-mail. > > To each his own ... and I don't think 66 or any other road is being > hurt by the proliferation of groups dedicated to discussing old > highways. If I did, I'd be the first one to stand up and yell about it. > > Emily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rwarn17588 Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Nicole" <arizona66nms@y...> wrote: > Hi all- > > Someone had mentioned that a reason why so many people left the 66 > group was because of some of Emily's posts or subjects that were > being debated that made everyone angry, disagree, or just have a chip > on their shoulder that forced them to leave that group. > > The reasons why I left that group had absolutely nothing to do with > those things, and it just happened to land on the timeframe when > things were a little heated in that group. In fact.....I left that > group for reasons that I will never post about or feel it should even > be mentioned in any group anyway, and I was real sad to > leave......but let me tell ya, I was so relieved and happy to join > this group and find so many of the same people that I care so much > about who are on the 66 list....also on THIS list! I won't have to > worry about missing some of Emily's always intelligent, entertaining, > funny, and enlightening posts.....nor will I lost contact with some > of the people I care about the most, true friends I now have thanks > to that list, and this one. > > People belong to both lists, one list, or not the other for their own > reasons....but nevertheless the information about the road will > eventually be passed around to all. > > Love to all roadies- > > Nicole > > Thanks, Nicole. I think you articulated what I was trying to say far better than I. Ron Warnick Belleville, IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drivewdave@aol.com Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 Jim, can't say I am aware of much in the way of abandoned four-lane highways besides parts of the old Ridge Route, Pennsylvania Turnpike segments with tunnels and a couple bits of US 99 near Longview WA. I have seen a few movie location shots that appeared to be using former four-lane roads, one of the films was about an extremely long taxi ride I think from LA to Canada and back. I can't quite imagine large scale abandonment on the interstate system, what would replace it, skyways? Back after the war people thought we would have flying cars by now, imagine what a scene that would be. It's not the interstates that are boring, it's the general population that is prone to boredom and some of them are even boring people. It reminds me of what someone said about sheepherding where there is little in the way of entertainment or distraction. The people who are suited for it are the very smart and the very dumb. The smart ones can entertain themselves with their mind, the dumb ones blend into the landscape and those in between can only take about three days of being all alone in the middle of nowhere. It is thought that Jack Kerouak suffered a nervous breakdown and a loss of self-confidence that he never overcame as the result of a summer spent at a fire lookout in the N Cascades in WA. Jack was following the example of his friend, fellow writer/poet/dharma bum Gary Snyder who evidently was more cut out for all the solitude. Gary has lived in a remote area of the Cascades in northern CA for decades now. Road folk might note Gary Snyder wrote a poem featuring Highway 99 drawn from his hitchhiking experiences in the 1950s. He's right up there with Steinbeck when it comes to portraying the sensations of the road though in a much more economical form, the prose poem. Night Highway Ninety Nine is part of his extended work Mountains and Rivers Without End. You can read it at http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2973/poetry.htm Speaking of Steinbeck I just happen to have at hand the August 1940 Readers Digest which has an excerpt from "The Grapes of Wrath" a chapter which is here titled "Two For a Penny." It is set in a classic Route 66 hamburger stand, the characters are the hamburger joint, Mae at the counter, Al at his griddle, Big Bill the trucker and his partner, a family of Okies (not the Joads) in an ancient Nash and of course 66 where "the cars whizzed viciously by." I had a ride on the Taconic Parkway one sunny afternoon in Sept 1971, I was hitchhiking with my Schwinn Varsity ten-speed bicycle from Boston to Tacoma via the Grand Canyon and got a ride from a middle aged lady in an Olds convertible with the top down. I remember the shoulders were grass and the guard rails bare weathered wood. The road fit into the rolling wooded landscape in a most agreeable way, what could be finer...I had already read about the Taconic in a 60s book about highway design so I knew where I was. It was given as an example of the ideal way to blend into the landscape, (as opposed to some poor fool looking after some sheep.) Let's hear more about abandoned four-lanes and those favorite interstates. I remember I-90 heading east from Butte as having the aspect of a gigantic roller coaster with a dark storm front a hundred miles away against the red hills. You can see many many fine pictures of western interstates and US Routes many with dramatic landscapes and weather at Eric Buchanans Highway Photo Page http://members.tripod.com/~Interstate80/ Eric's site merits a link from our yahoo site if it's not up there already, in the meanwhile, Happy Motoring, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 So does U.S. 60, in South Central Missouri about 50 miles W of Poplar Bluff...Kip Welborn ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank Brusca To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 7:54 PM Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Greetings from the Washington Office Thanks, Thomas! I'm please to be onboard and in such great company. BTW, one of the great pieces of trivia about some of my favorite highways is that Routes 40 & 66 and the Lincoln Highway all have towns named Winona. Some things just boggle the mind. Frank Brusca Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brownwho63 Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, drivewdave@a... wrote: > > Let's hear more about abandoned four-lanes and those > favorite interstates. I remember I-90 heading east from > Butte as having the aspect of a gigantic roller coaster with > a dark storm front a hundred miles away against the red hills. > You can see many many fine pictures of western interstates > and US Routes many with dramatic landscapes and weather at > Eric Buchanans Highway Photo Page > http://members.tripod.com/~Interstate80/ > > Eric's site merits a link from our yahoo site if it's not up there already, > in the meanwhile, Happy Motoring, Dave Although not "abandoned," the 1940's 4-lane at Hooker, MO that bypassed Devil's Elbow to Ft. Wood is a favorite roadie driving spot. There's another piece of '66 4-lane both north and south of the Litchfield, IL city limits but I suspect it will soon be reduced to 2 lanes. Still Cruisin' Route 66, Bliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DEkey68402@aol.com Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 In a message dated 2/3/03 11:12:29 AM, roadmaven@aol.com writes: << www.route-40.net >> I tried this URL and it didn't work. Is threre another site? Doyle Ekey Topeka, KS US 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David G. Clark Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "rt66prods <rt66prods@e...>" <rt66prods@e...> wrote: > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, drivewdave@a... wrote: > > Early freeways are getting to be antique too, > > there is talk of historic preservation status In Chicago, we have Lake Shore Drive. What I've heard referred to elsewhere in the country as Parkways, are called Boulevards in Chicago. The first boulevards were grand avenues that linked the Chicago Parks together. These were designed for carriage traffic, and had a center section for through traffic separated from side lanes for local traffic. Commercial vehicles (delivery wagons at first, later trucks) were banned from driving on the center boulevard, or from parking along the local section. This ban continues to the present. As the automobile came along, the boulevard along the lakefront was enlarged and paved. There were originally two unconnected sections: the original Lake Shore Drive was located in Lincoln Park on the city's north side and ran from Belmont Avenue, 4 miles north of downtown, to Navy Pier, 3 miles further south. This was the first road in Chicago to feature on/off ramps with grade separations instead of intersections with traffic control signs or lights. This road was built by the Lincoln Park commission, a government authority completely separate from the municipal governemnt with its own governing board that was beholden to the State Legislature--not the mayor. On the South Side, there was the South Park Commission, yet another autonomous governing body, which was building its own boulevard, known by many names over the years: South Park Way, South Shore Drive, Leif Ericksen Drive, Field Drive, East Drive. This road eventually hugged the lakefront from Jackson Park (location of the Museum of Science and Industry) on the south at approximately 57th street, 7 miles south of downtown, to Monroe Street, just behind the Art Institute. A man by the name of Charles Wacker, president of the Chicago Plan Commission (a private group of businessmen interested in Chicago growth--something that the city government had little interest in at the time--some say to this day) began to work with both Park commissions on a plan to connect the two lakefront boulevards with a bridge across the Chicago River. They hoped to complete this project before the Century of Progress World's Fair that was to be held in Chicago in 1933. Before this bridge was built, US Highway 41 used to follow Lake Shore Drive through Lincoln Park, then would go south from about Chicago Avenue along Michigan Avenue to Jackson Boulevard. It would intersect with US 66 at Jackson and Michigan. 41 then turned east on Jackson and then south on the South Park Commission's boulevard on its way to Indiana. Note: the South Park folks changed the name of their boulevard often, but in other ways they were NOT very adventuresome. Unlike the Lincoln Park folks, they did not experiment with any fancy cloverleaf intersections. All intersections on the south boulevard were standard on-grade with traffic control until the late 1950s. To connect the two boulevards, there were many different plans put forth. One called for a tunnel under the river, another for a bridge high enough so that it would not interfere with watercraft on the river. The design chosen was for a "double bascule" bridge--a drawbridge--that could be raised in order to let tall-masted boats to pass. If this bridge opening during heavy traffic times was not enough of a problem, then the two 90 degree turns required on the south side of the river to connect with the south boulevard were enough to bring traffic to a crawl. The "S" curve was one of those bizarre reminders proving that the two sections were NOT originally planned to join together. Due to delays and lack of money (the Depression was a problem here) the Outer Drive Bridge was not completed until 1937, four years after the World's Fair. US 41 was moved off of Michigan Avenue to follow the new through route, and US 66 was extended east to meet with it. In the 1930s and 1940s, Lake Shore Drive was the only road in Chicago resembling a "freeway." It carried large volumes of traffic and many experiments in highway engineering were tried over the years. At one point the north end had a "motorized median" that could be moved in order to reverse the flow of traffic on the middle lanes. In the morning, the median was moved east so that there would be three lanes for traffic heading into Chicago and only one for traffic headed north. For the evening rush, the median would be shifted westward, and the northbound traffic could use three lanes. Today, the same lane reversal is done, but it is accomplished with a four-man road crew with a whole bunch of orange traffic cones. Much of the original Art Deco bridges and lighting still exist on LSD, especially in the Lincoln Park section. In the downtown area, the "S" curve has been straghtened out, but to me this is NOT an improvement--there was something charming about that old "kink." The Drive though downtown still has traffic lights and on-grade intersections, but the south side has been "improved" to near highway standards. Luckily one plan was never brought to fruition: in the early days of the Interstate program, they had reserved the number I- 494 for Lake Shore Drive. I shudder to imagine what LSD would be like today if it had been brought "up" to interstate standards! I still love to drive on LSD a lot. On a sunny summer day, Chicago can look like the most beautiful city in the world, with Lake Michigan on one side, the skyline of the city on the other. And then you get to that stoplight downtown, where Highway 41 meets the Mother Road. Hmm. Think I have to go on a ROAD TRIP! Dave Clark Windy City Road Warrior http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com dave@windycityroadwarrior.com 312-432-1284 843 W. Adams Street #312 Chicago, IL 60607-3017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roadmaven@aol.com Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 Just to add my 2 cents, Frank's research of the history of the National Road and US 40 will be a huge plus to both the magazine and the group. Frank has assembled the definitive website on US 40: www.route-40.net. Be sure to check it out. Pat Bremer List Host Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 http://www.route40.net/index.shtml --- DEkey68402@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 2/3/03 11:12:29 AM, > roadmaven@aol.com writes: > > << www.route-40.net >> > > I tried this URL and it didn't work. Is threre > another site? > > Doyle Ekey > Topeka, KS US 40 > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box > 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email > to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ===== "We has met the enemy, and he is us" - Pogo Possum __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roadmaven@aol.com Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 My apologies...the website is: www.route40.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Worley Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 --- "David G. Clark <>" <olympia66@netzero.net> wrote: > [...] > I still love to drive on LSD a lot. On a sunny summer day, Chicago > can look like the most beautiful city in the world, with Lake > Michigan on one side, the skyline of the city on the other. And then > you get to that stoplight downtown, where Highway 41 meets the Mother > Road. Whew - Dave, since I tend to visually scan long postings first, I had to do a double-take and re-read this paragraph a few times before I realized you were referring to LAKE SHORE DRIVE, not that mind-bending concoction once popular in hippydom and elsewhere.... !! I could just picture you driving around in a VW microbus freaking out over the purple lake and the pink glass sky scrapers swaying in the summer breezee....... aaahhhh... wow cool man.... ===== ______________________ Bob & Anneliese Worley Cedar Hill, Texas www.Worley-World.com www.Advocare.com - We Build Champions __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nicole Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 LOL! That is what I thought Bob until I read your response!! ha ha!! Oh that is funny....I needed that laugh today, thanks Dave!! :-) Bob Worley <bwcobra15@yahoo.com> wrote: --- "David G. Clark <>" <olympia66@netzero.net> wrote: > [...] > I still love to drive on LSD a lot. On a sunny summer day, Chicago > can look like the most beautiful city in the world, with Lake > Michigan on one side, the skyline of the city on the other. And then > you get to that stoplight downtown, where Highway 41 meets the Mother > Road. Whew - Dave, since I tend to visually scan long postings first, I had to do a double-take and re-read this paragraph a few times before I realized you were referring to LAKE SHORE DRIVE, not that mind-bending concoction once popular in hippydom and elsewhere.... !! I could just picture you driving around in a VW microbus freaking out over the purple lake and the pink glass sky scrapers swaying in the summer breezee....... aaahhhh... wow cool man.... ===== ______________________ Bob & Anneliese Worley Cedar Hill, Texas www.Worley-World.com www.Advocare.com - We Build Champions __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Nicole --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David G. Clark Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Nicole <arizona66nms@y...> wrote: > > LOL! That is what I thought Bob until I read your response!! ha ha!! Oh that is funny....I needed that laugh today, thanks Dave!! :- ) > > Bob Worley <bwcobra15@y...> wrote: > --- "David G. Clark <olympia66@n...>" <olympia66@n...> wrote: > > [...] > > I still love to drive on LSD a lot. On a sunny summer day, Chicago > > can look like the most beautiful city in the world, with Lake > > Michigan on one side, the skyline of the city on the other. And then > > you get to that stoplight downtown, where Highway 41 meets the Mother > > Road. > > Whew - Dave, since I tend to visually scan long postings first, I had to do a > double-take and re-read this paragraph a few times before I realized you were > referring to LAKE SHORE DRIVE, not that mind-bending concoction once popular > in hippydom and elsewhere.... !! I could just picture you driving around in > a VW microbus freaking out over the purple lake and the pink glass sky > scrapers swaying in the summer breezee....... aaahhhh... wow cool man.... > > I guess I'll have to watch those abbreviations in the future. And let's hope those hippies Bob pictures driving in the VW microbus have a "designated square" at the wheel. Everybody, when you come to Chicago, take a drive on Lake Shore Drive- -leave the LSD at home, okay? Dave Clark Having a real good trip in the Windy City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Worley Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 --- "David G. Clark <>" <olympia66@netzero.net> wrote: > > I guess I'll have to watch those abbreviations in the future. And > let's hope those hippies Bob pictures driving in the VW microbus have > a "designated square" at the wheel. > > Everybody, when you come to Chicago, take a drive on Lake Shore Drive- > -leave the LSD at home, okay? > > Dave Clark > Having a real good trip in the Windy City > Hey Dave, back in the late 80's I worked for a software company that had Louis A. Weiss Memorial Hospital as a customer, which is located in north Chicago very close to Lake Shore Drive. I spent many, many, MANY business weeks in Chicago. We lodged at a hotel in Evanston, Ill. so we drove daily up the lake coast on Lake Shore Drive to/from Evanston. We also had a client in Milwaukee so at times I would have to drive between the two. Summers were okay, but that one winter I was in Chicago was down right unBEARable for this Texas Boy!!! bbbrrrr!!! If I had known more about "66" et al back then I would have done more in Chicago at night than just hanging out in the hotel bar and getting smashed.... ===== ______________________ Bob & Anneliese Worley Cedar Hill, Texas www.Worley-World.com www.Advocare.com - We Build Champions __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 Of all places, Kentucky had several of them...The WK, the Bluegrass, the Purchase, the Pennyrille, the Daniel Boone...I used to get a thrill going out east on the WK when you passed the "eastern time zone" sign--made ya feel like you were going somewhere...Tsingtao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Burr To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: big reply to Greetings, many lanes wide There are a number of these parkways that perhaps should be preserved - or maybe they shouldn't. They were the forerunner of the interstate system. Two that I can think of at the moment, and I've driven both, are the Merritt Parkway in CT (I call that one a "Grouch Marx" road - drive it and You Bet Your Life!!). The other is the Taconic Parkway on eastern New York which runs from I-90 south toward New York City - I think it goes all the way down there - I do know it goes to Tarrytown, but not sure if it runs into the city. In any event it is a pretty drive, especially between I-90 in the north and I-84 in the south and has escaped the urban blight you find on the interstates. I-84, I-90 and I-87 literally surround it, thus leaving the northern section pretty much as it was 50, 60 years ago. Oh, yes, there is also the Garden State Parkway in New Jersey, but that is a fairly new road, comparitivel speaking, since it was authorized in 1952. It is considered one of the safest parkways. Taconic State Parkway - 105.3 miles, constructed 1927-1963. Web site: http://www.nycroads.com/roads/taconic/ Merritt Parkway web site: http://www.byways.org/travel/byway.html?CX_BYWAY=2452 Not your usual U S highways, but interesting none-the-less. Hudsonly, Alex B --- "rt66prods <rt66prods@earthlink.net>" <rt66prods@earthlink.net> wrote: > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, > drivewdave@a... wrote: > > Early freeways are getting to be antique too, > > there is talk of historic preservation status > > for the 1939 Arroyo Seco Parkway from > Pasadena > > to Los Angeles. > > The Arroyo Seco Parkway was officially opened > on December 30, 1940. > At its initial stage, it stretched from Glenarm > Street in Pasadena to > the Los Angeles River, near Avenue 19, north of > Downtown Los Angeles, > just north of Elysian Park. In 1942, the > Parkway was extended > through Elysian Park and to a location just > north of Sunset > Boulevard, still north of Downtown Los Angeles. > > In the summer of 2002, the length of the Arroyo > Seco Parkway > (including its 1942 extension) was indeed named > a National Scenic > Byway. There are plans / goals to nominate it > for a National > Register of Historic Places nomination. > > Many early freeways are coming up for Historic > Byway and National > Register eligibility. However, it seems > unlikely that many will end > up with National Register status, as most > Transportation Department > officials would be unlikely to have increased > limitations placed on > them. However, that could change over the next > several years. Stay > tuned. > > Scott Piotrowski > Director, 66 Productions > (www.66productions.com) > > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box > 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email > to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ===== "We has met the enemy, and he is us" - Pogo Possum __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 ----- Original Message ----- From: mailto:brownwho63 <wefly66@earthlink.net To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 8:53 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Roadbed --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, drivewdave@a... wrote: > > Let's hear more about abandoned four-lanes and those > favorite interstates. I remember I-90 heading east from > Butte as having the aspect of a gigantic roller coaster with > a dark storm front a hundred miles away against the red hills. > You can see many many fine pictures of western interstates > and US Routes many with dramatic landscapes and weather at > Eric Buchanans Highway Photo Page > http://members.tripod.com/~Interstate80/ > > Eric's site merits a link from our yahoo site if it's not up there already, > in the meanwhile, Happy Motoring, Dave Although not "abandoned," the 1940's 4-lane at Hooker, MO that bypassed Devil's Elbow to Ft. Wood is a favorite roadie driving spot. There's another piece of '66 4-lane both north and south of the Litchfield, IL city limits but I suspect it will soon be reduced to 2 lanes. Still Cruisin' Route 66, Bliss Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 Dont forget "Highway 61" by Mississippi Fred McDowell--an excellent rendition of the same can be found done by the truest of road bands, the Blasters...Tsingtao, Kip Welborn ----- Original Message ----- From: drivewdave@aol.com To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:53 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Highway 61 revisited The Memphis Blues is a also composition by W. C. Handy circa 1914. Also I am surprised you did not mention the early Bob Dylan LP Highway 61 Revisited. For those interested in the development of the music there is a very good radio show out of New Orleans that is syndicated on NPR, American Roots is the name of it. In the Seattle area you can hear it on KUOW 94.9 FM every Sat afternoon from 1 until 3. Music and driving is a whole area of culture unto itself and there are hundreds if not thousands of songs about cars and trucks and roads. Six Days on the Road by Dave Dudley made a strong impression on my as a child. One of my favorites now is the Tom Waits remake of Red Sovine's Phantom 309 which tells the story of a hitchhiker who gets a ride in a ghost semi-rig. Tom changes it some and one of the best lines is where he climbed up into the cab and "the dashboard was lit up like Madame LaRue's pinball machine" This closes the circle on Nawlins, Madame LaRue was a famous antebellum voodoo priestess in The Crescent City. Music goes a long way in creating mood, nostalgic or otherwise. It's the ideal companion on road trips through the past. I wonder if Route 66 would have the same hold on the collective psyche had the famous song not been a hit. Of course the TV show helped too. I am glad for American Road giving the rest of the nation its due. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David G. Clark Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Bob Worley <bwcobra15@y...> wrote: > Hey Dave, back in the late 80's I worked for a software company that had > Louis A. Weiss Memorial Hospital as a customer, which is located in north > Chicago very close to Lake Shore Drive. > > If I had known more about "66" et al back then I would have done more in > Chicago at night than just hanging out in the hotel bar and getting > smashed.... > Bob-- In 1985, we took a family vacation to Los Angeles. We drove Sunset Boulevard all the way to the Ocean, and the Pacific Coast Highway up to San Francisco. But I wish I had even a little sense about 66! Unfortunately, I had NO CLUE in those days. The next year, we drove from Niagara Falls to New York City. I've always heard that rural New York State is absolutely beautiful. But I still can't tell you from personal experience, since we took this drive OVERNIGHT! We were so worried about the destinations that we completely neglected the road experience. At the time, I remember that much of the first part of this journey had to be down on two- lane highways. There was undoubtedly roadie nirvanna all around us that we could not see. I'm going to make myself crazy if I keep this up--I just thought of yet another one, the very NEXT year--a drive in the dark from South of the Everglades in Florida up the Gulf coast to Sanibel Island. Well, at least I know better now. If anything, I've gone off the deep end the OTHER way. We now look at EVERYTHING as we travel, to the extent that it takes all day to go about 50 or 60 miles. Dave Clark Windy City Road Warrior http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com dave@windycityroadwarrior.com 312-432-1284 843 W. Adams Street #312 Chicago, IL 60607-3017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frank Brusca Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 Try www.route40.net Frank Brusca -----Original Message----- From: [mailto:DEkey68402@aol.com] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 2:20 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] More on Frank Brusca...(was Greetings) In a message dated 2/3/03 11:12:29 AM, roadmaven@aol.com writes: << www.route-40.net >> I tried this URL and it didn't work. Is threre another site? Doyle Ekey Topeka, KS US 40 Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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