Guest Alex Burr Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 Hey Jim, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU - AND MANY, MANY MORE. Hudsonly, Alex B Jim Conkle <jim@cart66pf.org> wrote: Being that my birthday is also October 2, although a few years older then two, I am honored to share the date with an icon of America. Hopefully we will celebrate many more in the future. Thanks Pat and Jennifer and all American Road E-groupers. Of all the groups that I belong to this is one of the best. Take care and see you on the road, Jim Conkle James M Conkle Executive Director & Chairman of the Board California Route 66 Preservation Foundation P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760 617 3991 cell 760 868 3320 760 868 8614 fax HYPERLINK "mailto:"jim@cart66pf.org www.cart66pf.orgVOTE for Hampton Hotels Save-A-Landmark program for the 2004 Smithsonian Magazine/TCF Sustainable Tourism Award. You can vote every day till October 31, 2004. www.sustainabletourismawards.com/index.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.733 / Virus Database: 487 - Release Date: 8/2/2004 Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT var lrec_target="_top";var lrec_URL = new Array();lrec_URL[1] = "http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12922f92c/M=29...269404/D=groups /S=1707284507:HM/EXP=1096943602/A=2380023/R=0/id=flashurl/SIG=124gll7mf/*http:// www.interest.com/includes/server/icom_campaign.asp?id=10720 ";var link="java script:LRECopenWindow(1)";var lrec_flashfile = 'http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/bo/bon...oo_em4_100104.s wf?clickTAG='+link+'';var lrec_altURL = "http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12922f92c/M=29...269404/D=groups /S=1707284507:HM/EXP=1096943602/A=2380023/R=1/id=altimgurl/SIG=124gll7mf/*http:/ /www.interest.com/includes/server/icom_campaign.asp?id=10720 ";var lrec_altimg = "http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/bo/bon..._em4_100104.jpg";va r lrec_width = 300;var lrec_height = 250; --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jennifer Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 > > Thanks for the tip, Jennifer. I know I've already thanked you on another > list but one can never be too appreciative of moderators;-) > You're welcome, Denny! I enjoyed reading your trip report and checking out the photos. The store looks pretty neat - is it really an operating store? It's hard to believe from the appearance. I went to their website and it says it is, I'm curious. Might have to take a road trip too! Jennifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jennifer Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Conkle" <jim@c...> wrote: > > > Being that my birthday is also October 2, although a few years older then > two, I am honored to share the date with an icon of America. Hopefully we > will celebrate many more in the future. > > Thanks Pat and Jennifer and all American Road E-groupers. Of all the groups > that I belong to this is one of the best. You're quite welcome, Jim...I'm happy you think out little group is one of the best! I hope you had a wonderful birthday! Jennifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BringBackRoute66.com Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 Fred M. Cain, U.S. Route 66 Re-commissioning Initiative http://www.bringbackroute66.com ***************************************************************************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Conkle Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Thanks Alex, Chet & Jennifer. I spent the day with my family. Our daughter’s baby, a boy, is due at anytime and I was hoping for a really great birthday present. But alas it did not happen although I did offer to take her on a bumpy ride down old Route 66 to help her on. James M Conkle Executive Director & Chairman of the Board California Route 66 Preservation Foundation P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760 617 3991 cell 760 868 3320 760 868 8614 fax HYPERLINK "mailto:"jim@cart66pf.org www.cart66pf.orgVOTE for Hampton Hotels Save-A-Landmark program for the 2004 Smithsonian Magazine/TCF Sustainable Tourism Award. You can vote every day till October 31, 2004. www.sustainabletourismawards.com/index.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.733 / Virus Database: 487 - Release Date: 8/2/2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Jim, sad to relate the bumpy road treatment is a myth. :>( Hudsonly, Alex B --- Jim Conkle <jim@cart66pf.org> wrote: > > > Being that my birthday is also October 2, although a > few years older then > two, I am honored to share the date with an icon of > America. Hopefully we > will celebrate many more in the future. > > Thanks Pat and Jennifer and all American Road > E-groupers. Of all the groups > that I belong to this is one of the best. > > Take care and see you on the road, > > Jim Conkle > > > > James M Conkle > > Executive Director & Chairman of the Board > > California Route 66 Preservation Foundation > > P O Box 290066 > > Phelan, CA 92329-0066 > > 760 617 3991 cell > > 760 868 3320 > > 760 868 8614 fax > > HYPERLINK "mailto:"jim@cart66pf.org > > www.cart66pf.orgVOTE for Hampton Hotels > Save-A-Landmark program for the 2004 > Smithsonian Magazine/TCF Sustainable Tourism Award. > You can vote every day > till October 31, 2004. > www.sustainabletourismawards.com/index.htm > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.733 / Virus Database: 487 - Release > Date: 8/2/2004 > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russell S. Rein Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Hi folks, Lots o' stuff today: You are invited to the Indiana Chapter of the Lincoln Highway Association fall meeting at the Studebaker National Museum, in South Bend, IN on Saturday, October 16, 2004 at 2:00 pm. I will be presenting a program - A Postcard Tour of Indiana's Lincoln Highway. Members are invited to bring updates on the LH in their area, and the public is invited. There will be a brief chapter business meeting following the program. Hope to see you there! Bev Looker's e-mail address doesn't work anymore, nor does the link for the Ohio LH Chapter website - any update on this? In downtown Coatesville, PA progress may mean demolition of historic buildings: http://xrl.us/db5w Mike Lester sent this one of a "lawn chair" trip on the LH in NE & IA: http://xrl.us/db5z Third part of a series looking at the historic Lincoln Highway/U.S. Route 40 in Solano County, CA: http://xrl.us/db6i The Boone, IA LH welcome arch: http://xrl.us/db6j The National Parks Service Study of the LH from the Green River, WY perspective: http://xrl.us/db6m A report on the Ohio Lincoln Highway Heritage Corridor: http://xrl.us/db6n A story on Dekalb, IL's LH Festival last weekend: http://xrl.us/db6o A story on PA LH Heritage Corridor's drive-thru museum from the Arizona Republic: http://xrl.us/db6q LHA member Cynthia Ogorek's book on the Calumet River area is out. Look for: ALONG THE CALUMET RIVER by Cynthia L. Ogorek Arcadia Publishing ISBN 0738533440 $19.99 http://xrl.us/db7q When I first started collecting LH postcards in the early '90s, Brian Butko offered the following strategy - don't tell any postcard dealers about the LH because they will sort out the cards and charge much more for them. Well - the following auction results indicate it's too late for that - much too late. LH ephemera is hot, and not just with LHA members. Here's some recent auction results from ebay: From the Tom Lutzi estate: Lincoln Highway Motometer - $265.38 http://xrl.us/db6t Lincoln Highway 1915 Road Guide - $861.99 http://xrl.us/db6x Lincoln Highway 1916 Road Guide - $152.50 (Ok - I bought it as an upgrade. If you come to the LHA Conference in Ely, NV next year you can buy my other copy) http://xrl.us/db6y Some other recent ebay LH auctions: A real photo postcard of the hairpin turn on the 17% Meyers Grade Below Echo Summit, Lake Tahoe area, CA - $161.02 (An evocative but essentially scenic view with one auto!) http://xrl.us/db65 A real photo postcard of the Placerville, CA Graystone Hotel - $188.87 http://xrl.us/db66 A '40s - '50s era frosted decorated glass mug of the Grand View Ship Hotel in PA - $177.50 http://xrl.us/db68 A real photo view of the LH in Belle Plaine from a railroad tower - $132.50 http://xrl.us/db7b A 9 inch octagonal embossed steel Lincoln Highway sign from NE - $321.00 (Never saw this "L" sign before, for the buyer's sake I hope this isn't a left trun sign!) http://xrl.us/db7g See you in South Bend, ypsi-slim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dave Settle Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 BlankI cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdgnieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer inwaht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas thought slpeling was ipmorantt!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Yes, I really enjoyed Jerome when I visited there in September (http://www.dennygibson.com/ariz092003/day02). This time I had already decided that I would be heading pretty much in the opposite direction. --Denny P.S. 2nd day up at http://www.dennygibson.com/ariz112003 -----Original Message----- From: [mailto:Chetnichols@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 12:26 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Phoenix again Denny, BE SURE to visit the little mountain town, Jerome. It's quite a hoot.....it's west of Phoenix and south of Cottonwood...... Unkle Chesty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 You could be right Tom. I agree with the Ballad being a great road song. Good thing they hadn't built the tunnel at that point. Some how "he shot the gap at Cumberland Tunnel........." just doesn't have the same ring as "he shot the gap at Cumberland and streamed by Maynordsville........" Mitchum wrote and produced the film, and his son, James played the part of his brother. There is, however, another "road" picture that is not only a cult film, but is, I think, right up there with Thunder Road - that is "Two Lane Blacktop", which starred James Taylor (in his only film) as the driver of a souped up 1955 Chevy, and his mechanic Denis Wilson of the Beach Boys, driving cross-country in the 1950's challenging all comers at drag racing. Interestingly, in this film the charecters had no names, except for Warren Oates whose name is given simply as G. T. O. While not an outstanding film, acting wise, it did convey the rootlessness of a lot of young people in that era, much as does Kerouacs "On The Road" - indeed "Two Lane Blacktop" could almost be taken as a film from "On The Road". Having grown up in the 50's, I look back at it as a wild time for youngsters - a transition from a relatively quiet, slow time to the frenetic rush of today to go ------ where and do what???? Hudsonly, Alex Burr --- egyptianzipper@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/31/04 8:42:37 PM Eastern > Standard Time, > hester_nec@yahoo.com writes: > Especially in the middle of > the night running hard and fast - I'll leave it up > to > your imaginations what we were doing. > Running moonshine? The reason I say that is because > of one of the best road > songs of the 20th Century, "Ballad of Thunder Road." > It was a 1962 hit for > Robert Mitchum who also starred in the movie by the > same title. > > The song traces Mitchum's flight from Harlan, over > Cumberland Gap, through > Maynardville and Knoxville, and finally out Kingston > Pike where he "left the > road at 90, that's all there is to say." > > Tom Hoffman > Pearisburg VA > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rwarn17588 Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 I cannot, in good conscience, recommend "Two Lane Blacktop." It's a terrible movie, with no discernable script whatsoever. I know some folks compare it to "Easy Rider," but "Two Lane Blacktop" is so disjointed and meaningless that "Easy Rider" seems like "Citizen Kane" in comparison. Ron Warnick Tulsa, OK > > There is, however, another "road" picture that is > not only a cult film, but is, I think, right up there > with Thunder Road - that is "Two Lane Blacktop", which > starred James Taylor (in his only film) as the driver > of a souped up 1955 Chevy, and his mechanic Denis > Wilson of the Beach Boys, driving cross-country in the > 1950's challenging all comers at drag racing. > Interestingly, in this film the charecters had no > names, except for Warren Oates whose name is given > simply as G. T. O. While not an outstanding film, > acting wise, it did convey the rootlessness of a lot > of young people in that era, much as does Kerouacs "On > The Road" - indeed "Two Lane Blacktop" could almost be > taken as a film from "On The Road". > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 I didn't say it was an outstanding film - merely compared it with Kerouac's "On The Road". Each to his own - and it still is a cult film. Hudsonly, Alex B --- rwarn17588 <rwarn17588@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I cannot, in good conscience, recommend "Two Lane > Blacktop." It's a > terrible movie, with no discernable script > whatsoever. I know some > folks compare it to "Easy Rider," but "Two Lane > Blacktop" is so > disjointed and meaningless that "Easy Rider" seems > like "Citizen > Kane" in comparison. > > Ron Warnick > Tulsa, OK > > > > > There is, however, another "road" picture that > is > > not only a cult film, but is, I think, right up > there > > with Thunder Road - that is "Two Lane Blacktop", > which > > starred James Taylor (in his only film) as the > driver > > of a souped up 1955 Chevy, and his mechanic Denis > > Wilson of the Beach Boys, driving cross-country in > the > > 1950's challenging all comers at drag racing. > > Interestingly, in this film the charecters had no > > names, except for Warren Oates whose name is given > > simply as G. T. O. While not an outstanding film, > > acting wise, it did convey the rootlessness of a > lot > > of young people in that era, much as does Kerouacs > "On > > The Road" - indeed "Two Lane Blacktop" could > almost be > > taken as a film from "On The Road". > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greg Laxton Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Two Lane Blacktop isn't my favorite by a long shot, but for the "vintage" road shots and the GTO Judge (I'm a GTO owner), it's worth a look in my book. Still, plenty of other better road movies out there. Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: rwarn17588 To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:27 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: La Cita in Tucumcari to close - now gas prices, & Dix... I cannot, in good conscience, recommend "Two Lane Blacktop." It's a terrible movie, with no discernable script whatsoever. I know some folks compare it to "Easy Rider," but "Two Lane Blacktop" is so disjointed and meaningless that "Easy Rider" seems like "Citizen Kane" in comparison. Ron Warnick Tulsa, OK > > There is, however, another "road" picture that is > not only a cult film, but is, I think, right up there > with Thunder Road - that is "Two Lane Blacktop", which > starred James Taylor (in his only film) as the driver > of a souped up 1955 Chevy, and his mechanic Denis > Wilson of the Beach Boys, driving cross-country in the > 1950's challenging all comers at drag racing. > Interestingly, in this film the charecters had no > names, except for Warren Oates whose name is given > simply as G. T. O. While not an outstanding film, > acting wise, it did convey the rootlessness of a lot > of young people in that era, much as does Kerouacs "On > The Road" - indeed "Two Lane Blacktop" could almost be > taken as a film from "On The Road". > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 One of the '55 Chevies used in Two Lane Blacktop (there were 3 of them used during filming) was later slightly altered and was the black '55 "Bob Falfa" drove in American Graffiti. Pat B. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...> wrote: > You could be right Tom. I agree with the Ballad > being a great road song. Good thing they hadn't built > the tunnel at that point. Some how "he shot the gap > at Cumberland Tunnel........." just doesn't have the > same ring as "he shot the gap at Cumberland and > streamed by Maynordsville........" > > Mitchum wrote and produced the film, and his son, > James played the part of his brother. > > There is, however, another "road" picture that is > not only a cult film, but is, I think, right up there > with Thunder Road - that is "Two Lane Blacktop", which > starred James Taylor (in his only film) as the driver > of a souped up 1955 Chevy, and his mechanic Denis > Wilson of the Beach Boys, driving cross-country in the > 1950's challenging all comers at drag racing. > Interestingly, in this film the charecters had no > names, except for Warren Oates whose name is given > simply as G. T. O. While not an outstanding film, > acting wise, it did convey the rootlessness of a lot > of young people in that era, much as does Kerouacs "On > The Road" - indeed "Two Lane Blacktop" could almost be > taken as a film from "On The Road". > > Having grown up in the 50's, I look back at it as a > wild time for youngsters - a transition from a > relatively quiet, slow time to the frenetic rush of > today to go ------ where and do what???? > > Hudsonly, > Alex Burr > > --- egyptianzipper@a... wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 10/31/04 8:42:37 PM Eastern > > Standard Time, > > hester_nec@y... writes: > > Especially in the middle of > > the night running hard and fast - I'll leave it up > > to > > your imaginations what we were doing. > > Running moonshine? The reason I say that is because > > of one of the best road > > songs of the 20th Century, "Ballad of Thunder Road." > > It was a 1962 hit for > > Robert Mitchum who also starred in the movie by the > > same title. > > > > The song traces Mitchum's flight from Harlan, over > > Cumberland Gap, through > > Maynardville and Knoxville, and finally out Kingston > > Pike where he "left the > > road at 90, that's all there is to say." > > > > Tom Hoffman > > Pearisburg VA > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. > www.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 OK, here's the write-up of Susan's and my daytrip to Chattanooga. In a perfect world, I would have my own webpage and would simply send y'all there, but since I don't, I'll refer you to the photos I've placed in my <Babyboomerbob> directory. TRAVELING WITH GHOSTS There are all kinds of road trips. But the one with the most danger is the kind where you try to go back to your old stomping grounds. You know it won't be the same, but there's always a surprise or two, and it's rarely the good kind. Be warned, if you try to go home, you will be traveling with ghosts. Susan and I started by picking up US 11 at Philadelphia, a town that has seen better days. There are plenty of remnants of the past, but they are getting pretty beat up. <PhillyTN01-03> As we stopped to take the last picture, there was a local lady walking her dog who shot me a look as if to ask what the hell we thought we were doing:) We headed south to Sweetwater. Downtown has a whole block of antique stores, and even a trendy coffee shop. There's a nice gazebo in the heart of town, along with a little greenbelt park with a flock of ducks. I sometimes go there and walk along Sweetwater Creek. <Sweetwater01-04> All the way down we looked for older alignments. It would have been a bit easier had I looked at the Delorme Atlas disc before we left. Looks like I missed a couple:) I need to check out the route through Athens a bit better later. As we crossed the Hiwassee River I sighed for the old camelback truss bridge that has now been replaced. Such is progress. And as we entered Chattanooga I noticed the bridge over S. Chickamauga Creek had been replaced too:( A short distance from the Chickamauga Creek Bridge, sandwiched between two shopping malls lays a small cemetery, the sole remnant of David Brainerd's mission to the Cherokees. I had hopes to get some close up photos of the stones, but the site sported a new chain link fence that was locked up tight:( I took what pictures I could, and then went on. <Brainerd01,02> We were getting much closer to my old neighborhood as we passed through the Missionary Ridge tunnel <Tunnel01> Just beyond, i noticed the alignment of US 11-64 had been changed, running it down Dodds Avenue, right through Ridgedale, the neighborhood where I grew up. We ignored this new alignment for now, continuing to head for downtown. We paused briefly at Warner Park. The park wasn't in particularly good shape, so we didn't stay long. When I was a kid it was the place where the local fair was held. One thing I particularly remember is the movies they showed in the field house showing the dangers of smoking. The film always ended with graphic footage of lung surgery, warning this is what our lungs would look like. A bunch of us boys would always go in together, and anyone who didn't pass out or get sick was a man:) That' how we measured our machismo back then:) But what do you expect from a bunch of 10 year olds? On past the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga where I encountered some friendly ghosts at the old public library building <Library01-03>. I always was the bookish sort and warm memories washed over me as I once more stood at the door to the children's section <Library03> that I used as a portal to all sorts of wondrous places, especially Oz. Then later through the main door <Library01> where I was introduced to Robert Heinlein, Arthur Clarke, Isaac Asimov, and lots of other great sci-fi writers. Before long, I realized why the alignment had been changed. Road construction downtown. All of downtown has been going through some splendid renovations in the last few years. This spring I plan to do another day trip just to feature the riverfront and the downtown bridges. We made our way to Market Street (Bus. US 27) and headed north, crossing the John Ross Bridge, continuing up Cherokee Blvd to the Stringer's Ridge tunnel <tunnel02>. This tunnel has a date marker over the entrance--1909. A real oldie but goodie:) While we were there, I took a long shot of the downtown bridges, the John Ross bridge in the foreground, and the Walnut Street bridge behind <Ross Bridge>. Better pictures next time. It was getting to be lunch time, so we hopped the interstate and went around the toe of Lookout Mountain. We exited at Cummings Highway (US 41-64-72). There's a place called Mullins' Cove where the Riverside Catfish House sits overlooking the Tennessee River <Catfish>. After a good helping of catfish and some key lime pie, we were ready to hit the road again. While we were in the area, we checked out the old bridge over the Tennessee <US 41 Bridge01,02>. As I drove over the two laner, I couldn't help noticing how narrow it was:) I was happy all the semis were over on the I-24 bridge:) Back downtown on the interstate after making a brief detour across the Georgia line to get gas. The price is *significantly* lower there. We began our return trip, following Martin Luther King Blvd. past the Bessie Smith Museum. Gotta check this out some time. Continuing on Bailey Avenue we decided to drop into the National Cemetery<NtlCem01-05>. I made a beeline for the Andrews' Raiders Monument. In 1862, the Union Army sent a band of raiders led by James Andrews deep into Confederate territory. They boarded a train in Atlanta, headed north to Chattanooga. At Big shanty (now Kennesaw), they stole the train and headed on north, planning to tear up the tracks, cut telegraph lines and burn bridges as they went. They caused some havoc, but really didn't acomplish their mission when they were assailed by the Confederate cavalry. Some escaped, and a few were exchanged for southern prisoners, but most were take to Chattanooga, tried and hanged as spies. The monument features a bronze image of the General, the locomotive they stole. The fact that Andrews is buried here with the rest of the raiders is unusual, since he was a civilian. <NtlCem01, 02> We then drove to the original entrance to the cemetery <NtlCem03, 04>. Finally we swung around again to get the last picture. This one's special for me. The stone in the foreground marks the final resting place of my great grandfather, Berry Reynolds who fought for the Union Army. Once we reached the end of Bailey Avenue, we headed south on Dodds Avenue right through the heart of my old neighborhood. Right by my old house, in fact. Here the ghosts began wailing. The house has been abandoned. I drove on without stopping and don't plan to go back:( Ironically, the old place is on the new (and presumably temporary) alignment of US 11-64. One more stop before we called it a day. We followed US 41- 76 up the foot of Missionary Ridge to get a picture of the Bachman Tubes <Tunnel03>. Many's the time I've driven through this tunnel, accompanied by the honking of other drivers:) By this time we were getting worn out, so we got on the interstate and headed home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian Butko Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 We just watched American Graffiti last night thought we?d better introduce the kids to it while they still think our tastes are cool. I remembered the Two Lane Blacktop connection when when we saw the ?55 roll. TLB used three ?55 Chevys: one for interior shots, one for exterior, and one at a repair shop. The last two were used two years later in America Graffitti: Harrison Ford drove the TLB exterior one, and the one he rolled was from the TLB repair shop. Seeing American Graffiti over the years always left a fun and colorful impression, but last night, the more serious themes jumped out more now that we?re older. And I really like Two Lane Blacktop quirky but cool, and the sparse, stilted dialog makes sense in a film about the gulf between people and how they come together. Brian www.brianbutko.com From: "Pat B." <roadmaven@aol.com> Reply-To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 20:07:43 -0000 To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Spam:[AMERICAN_ROAD] Two Lane Blacktop '55 Chevy Factoid--WAS...whatever that thread had grown into One of the '55 Chevies used in Two Lane Blacktop (there were 3 of them used during filming) was later slightly altered and was the black '55 "Bob Falfa" drove in American Graffiti. Pat B. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...> wrote: > You could be right Tom. I agree with the Ballad > being a great road song. Good thing they hadn't built > the tunnel at that point. Some how "he shot the gap > at Cumberland Tunnel........." just doesn't have the > same ring as "he shot the gap at Cumberland and > streamed by Maynordsville........" > > Mitchum wrote and produced the film, and his son, > James played the part of his brother. > > There is, however, another "road" picture that is > not only a cult film, but is, I think, right up there > with Thunder Road - that is "Two Lane Blacktop", which > starred James Taylor (in his only film) as the driver > of a souped up 1955 Chevy, and his mechanic Denis > Wilson of the Beach Boys, driving cross-country in the > 1950's challenging all comers at drag racing. > Interestingly, in this film the charecters had no > names, except for Warren Oates whose name is given > simply as G. T. O. While not an outstanding film, > acting wise, it did convey the rootlessness of a lot > of young people in that era, much as does Kerouacs "On > The Road" - indeed "Two Lane Blacktop" could almost be > taken as a film from "On The Road". > > Having grown up in the 50's, I look back at it as a > wild time for youngsters - a transition from a > relatively quiet, slow time to the frenetic rush of > today to go ------ where and do what???? > > Hudsonly, > Alex Burr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 I actually bought the movie (which I lent to Ron and Emily so they could "enjoy" it)...and I have to concur completely with Ron's assessment; furthermore, what 66 that is in the movie is overshadowed by the acting of people like James Taylor and Dennis Wilson who--thankfully for them--did not quit their day jobs (I give Warren Oates credit for trying)! just puttin my two cents out there and respectin' opinions other than my own! Tsingtao, Kip----- Original Message ----- From: "rwarn17588" <rwarn17588@yahoo.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 1:27 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: La Cita in Tucumcari to close - now gas prices, & Dix... > > > I cannot, in good conscience, recommend "Two Lane Blacktop." It's a > terrible movie, with no discernable script whatsoever. I know some > folks compare it to "Easy Rider," but "Two Lane Blacktop" is so > disjointed and meaningless that "Easy Rider" seems like "Citizen > Kane" in comparison. > > Ron Warnick > Tulsa, OK > > > > > There is, however, another "road" picture that is > > not only a cult film, but is, I think, right up there > > with Thunder Road - that is "Two Lane Blacktop", which > > starred James Taylor (in his only film) as the driver > > of a souped up 1955 Chevy, and his mechanic Denis > > Wilson of the Beach Boys, driving cross-country in the > > 1950's challenging all comers at drag racing. > > Interestingly, in this film the charecters had no > > names, except for Warren Oates whose name is given > > simply as G. T. O. While not an outstanding film, > > acting wise, it did convey the rootlessness of a lot > > of young people in that era, much as does Kerouacs "On > > The Road" - indeed "Two Lane Blacktop" could almost be > > taken as a film from "On The Road". > > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 ...anybody who wants to ferret their way through the Ozarks via many of missouri's finer state highways (21, 51, 19, 8 just to name a few) will find a few curves, a few hills, and a lot of reasons to go green in the gills! Tsingtao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Ward" <flyboy1946@hotmail.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: The Dragon's Tail (MAP) > I'll add another stretch of road to the list. U.S. Highway 191, formerly known as U.S. Highway 666, between Clifton and Alpine, Arizona. It's almost 90 miles of mountain curves. The posted speed limit rarely gets above 30 mph for the entire stretch. > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rwarn17588<mailto:RWarn17588@aol.com> > To: <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:21 PM > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: The Dragon's Tail (MAP) > > > --- In <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>, "Bob Reynolds" <roustabout@s<mailto:roustabout@s>...> > wrote: > > --- In <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>, Alex Burr <hester_nec@y<mailto:hester_nec@y>...> > > wrote: > > > Then there's U S 40 west of Denver headed up thru > > > Berthoud Pass............ > > > > > > Hudsonly, > > > Alex B > > > > > > > I'm not sure this is still driveable, even with a monster SUV, but La > Bajada Hill north of Albuquerque has to be a contender. Old 66 there > has 23 hairpin curves in a little more than two miles. Emily and I > elected to hike it instead of driving it. It was a bit tiring in 95- > degree heat, but it offers hellacious views. We left there just in > time, too. A thunderstorm rumbled through less than two hours after we > left. > > Some other favorites for fun, curvy driving: > > -- The road that goes through the Smoky Mountain National Park. > -- The road that goes through the Badlands park. > -- Lower Terre Haute Road in far eastern Illinois. > -- Just about any road you find in Jo Daviess County in northwestern > Illinois. > -- That scary ascent up the mountain on Highway 104 northwest of > Tucumcari, leading to Las Vegas, N.M. > > Ron Warnick > Belleville, IL > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > <http://rd.yahoo.com/SIG=12c3lhn3d/M=267637...261774/D=egroup web/S=1707284507:HM/EXP=1071541291/A=1853618/R=0/*http://www.netflix.com/Def ault?mqso=60178338&partid=4116730> > > > > Visit our homepage at: <http://www.mockturtlepress.com/> > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butko, Brian A. Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 A good road for stomach-dropping hills and dips is Roller Coaster Road between East Liverpool and Lisbon, Ohio. It's the original Lincoln Highway and so is parallel to modern Route 30. The name says it all. It's one lump after another, and even at slow speeds, it's scary topping each hill, not knowing what awaits you. Brian "already sick of winter colds" Butko From: "jenniferrt66" <jabremer66@aol.com> Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:39:18 -0000 To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: LETS GO!!! This is a general feeling of driving along a road, and it's something that is found on roads in many areas - I love roads with lots of hills and dips. You don't have to be going too fast, of course, but I like when you're going over a little hill and you get airborne for a second...an extra bonus is when you get that feeling like your stomach's in your throat! Kinda a throwback to when you were a little kid! Jennifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 Now that yu mention it Brian - yes. I've driven that part of old 30 when my daughter lived down in that area. Best way to enjoy winter - join me in a trip to Memphis. I'll be back in New England, unfortunately, the end of January. But I won't be out of touch with everybody - my daughter is on-line, and since she works during the day, well.............. Somebody, misguided to say the least, did tell me that "Hey, it gets cold in Memphis, too!!" To which I replied "Unlike New England, it don't last no 8 months!!!" Everybody have a great holiday season, an even better 2004 and pray that cow doesn't land on your roof. Heck of a way to get a new computer. Hudsonly, Alex B --- "Butko, Brian A." <babutko@hswp.org> wrote: > A good road for stomach-dropping hills and dips is > Roller Coaster Road > between East Liverpool and Lisbon, Ohio. It's the > original Lincoln Highway > and so is parallel to modern Route 30. The name says > it all. It's one lump > after another, and even at slow speeds, it's scary > topping each hill, not > knowing what awaits you. > > Brian "already sick of winter colds" Butko > > > From: "jenniferrt66" <jabremer66@aol.com> > Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:39:18 -0000 > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: LETS GO!!! > > This is a general feeling of driving along a road, > and it's something > that is found on roads in many areas - I love roads > with lots of > hills and dips. You don't have to be going too fast, > of course, but I > like when you're going over a little hill and you > get airborne for a > second...an extra bonus is when you get that feeling > like your > stomach's in your throat! Kinda a throwback to when > you were a > little kid! > > Jennifer > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roadmaven@aol.com Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 The Dixie on US 36 in Tuscola, IL has been closed for a couple of years now, at least it was while driving through there in September. I don't recall there ever being a Dixie in Indiana. BUT, there is a place that serves up a wicked plate of fried mush on US 40 in Greenfield, IN, about 20 miles east of Indianapolis. The place is called Riley House Restaurant and is on 40 not even a mile west of SR 9 on the north side of 40. My dad's Model A Ford club eats there frequently & that's all he'll get...with some sausage, I believe. I had it once & it was just like ma used to make! Happy Eating... Pat in Speedway http://roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drivewdave@aol.com Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 Dave here, listening to a NPR radio news feature about the improvement to the road from Kabul to Kandahar, travel time has been reduced from 14 hours to 7 hours with a 'California standard' ribbon of asphalt replacing a bumpy rollercoaster. the benefits are immediate and obvious, quicker travel time to hospitals, trucks can now make the run in one day instead of two, patrols have easy access to the mainstem of the area. the upgrade was speeded along after being made a priority. The undertone of the story was how the opening of the road was something to celebrate and was important and they had to explain why that was so, in other words we in the US take our roads for granted and don't understand how important they are (except for us roadies of course) The situation seems similar to the early days here when opening a new road was a big deal. Here is an example, the object to hand, an old postcard postmarked Grand Island Nebr. Jul 23 10-30A 1915 (the message) other side represents a village scene last Sat morning Note the firewagon & the jitney-yours humbly was there on the corner but she don't show- (addressed to) Mrs. H. Bohm Auburn N.Y. 2 Westlake Ave. The card is a realphoto showing a brick street, two story brick buildings, people and flags and cars and the two trucks, the caption reads Lincoln Highway Day, Grand Island Nebr. July 17-1915 obviously a locally produced card, probably only a few hundred were made, it was important enough for someone to save it until it found its way to me. From my personal experience I remember when the state of Washington had an opening ceremony for the freeway connecting I-5 to the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, this was in the early 70s. They had a portable stage on a trailer for the important guests speak from. The part that stuck with me is when a clergyman gave a prayer, he quoted the bible where Jesus said something to the effect of 'thou shalt level the hill and fill in the valley' and the minister said that is what we have done here, we have leveled the hill and filled in the valley. Quite a moment. by the way since our tax dollars paid for the Kabul to Kandahar road in Afghanistan in a sense it would seem to be an American Road... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russell S. Rein Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 C'mon Dave, Don't tease us - we want to see the card. You can paste a low-res image right it with your message. slim > Grand Island Nebr. Jul 23 10-30A 1915 > The card is a realphoto showing a brick street, two story > brick buildings, people and flags and cars and the two trucks, > the caption reads > > Lincoln Highway Day, Grand Island Nebr. July 17-1915 > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jabremer66@aol.com Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 > by the way since our tax dollars paid for the Kabul > to Kandahar road in Afghanistan in a sense it > would seem to be an American Road... And if anyone ever travels that road, be sure to post a report and photos! LOL Jennifer Bremer http://www.roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drivewdave@aol.com Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Jennifer, Slim, posting the Lincoln Highway Day card is a moot point since I don't have the scanner up and running yet and it's been a year and a half since it was given to me. This by way to show my lack of interest in programming: My lame AOL browser window has been nonfunctional for months now leaving me only e-mail, yesterday I finally got fed up and halfway fixed it after three calls to tech support. The third call resulted in the suggesting that I dump the entire AOL program and reload it again, the threat of doing this seems to coincide with its mysterious return to sluggish functioning. The first call had me increase virtual memory and the second had me trash a bunch of preferences and at first neither made any difference but apparently something changed overnight. The highway opening ceremony I attended was essentially a media event, less than one hundred people attended and most of them were politicians or media types. I pictured the stage/trailer being trucked all over the state for similar exercises in official obligatory pomp. Nowdays people don't seem to get too excited over a new road opening, they just want to drive on it to get somewhere else. But not us roadies, we often drive our beloved roads for the sheer joy of it. A little while ago Arizona Jeff mentioned lots of old original cement to be seen alongside US80 in the CA desert, while this is nice to see I would much rather be driving on it, I suppose it could be fun to cruise it from the air too and that could well be a good way to scout old alignments. Popular legend has it that some of the pioneer trails, the Oregon and the Santa Fe for example, were rediscovered by early airline pilots. The earliest 'road' over Snoqualmie Pass here in WA (more recently served by the Sunset Highway, US 10 and I-90) is a centuries old trail a yard wide and a yard deep and if you know where to look you too can still walk in those ancient footsteps. Since the US Forest Service isn't telling where it is you have to do your research. The early wagon road is not very visible but there used to be a sign for it from a hairpin on a switchback on former US10. I have a hunch that the foot trail might be visible from the air. It was an important trade route for untold millenia. enough for now, dave PS was slightly disillusioned to learn recently that the Great Wall of China is not visible from the moon after all. Seems that some writer made it all up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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