Guest jim conkle Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Hi Tom, Thanks for the information on the other railroads and roads. You are right in that the roads came after and followed the railroads as much as possible. Both forms of transportation were of equal importance to our country. Hard to be a road buff and not have a love for railroads as well. James M Conkle Preservationist-Speaker-Marketer-Spokesperson-Public Relations-Event Planner Route 66 Preservation Foundation Preservation of Historic Roads & Corridors P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760 868 3320 760 617 3991 cell 760 868 8614 fax jimconkle@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:]On Behalf Of egyptianzipper@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 7:00 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] FW: Trains Publishes Route 66 Article In a message dated 2/6/06 4:18:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, jimconkle@verizon.net writes: Sounds as if they could have covered more in depth the relationship between Route 66 and Santa Fe Railroad. ==================================================================== As a railroad buff, I'm very familiar with what US routes follow what railroads. I'm sure the railroad came first, and it was easier to put the road in an existing corridor rather than build a new one. For example: Great Northern: US 2 Burlington: US 34 Rock Island: US 54 C&NW/Union Pacific: US 30 Milwaukee Road: US 12 Norfolk and Western: US 460 They don't necessarily follow each other all the way. For example, 34 veers away from the Burlington in eastern Colorado and wanders off into the mountains. 460 gets away from the N&W west of Bluefield and sort of gets lost in Kentucky. In the east, the Pennsylvania Railroad follows US 30 from Philadelphia to Harrisburg, and again through Pittsburgh. In between, the PRR veers to the north for a while. Tom Hoffman Pearisburg VA Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance schools ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bakerhab@aol.com Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 The intersection that Gary mentioned, Hwy 395 & Hwy 58, is called Kramer Junction. Harry, Helen & Elizabeth Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rlb0267 Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Jim Ross <pathfinder66@e...> wrote: > A number of years ago I wrote a feature article in that other magazine on the alignments through STL. It was called "Escape From St. Louis." As the title suggests, that tangle of routings is enough to make your head spin. > > Jim R. Jim, I'm curious about the subject in general and one route in particular. First, the general. Were the number of alignment changes (including various City, Alt and Byp routes) on U.S. highways in St. Louis abnormally high compared to other metros? Why so much jockeying around? Are there resources other than old maps (which may or may not be very accurate) which you use to research these obscure changes? I'm personally interested in knowing more about U.S. 50's alignments. When did it change from Manchester Road and what is now Missouri 100 to multiplexing with U.S. 66 through Pacific? Can't remember if it was here or somewhere else, but I thought I read a reference to an early 66 also being on Manchester before its alignment moved to Watson Road and through Pacific. Is that accurate? I'm also curious about U.S. 50's Mississippi River crossing changes. What bridges in what years. I've seen various maps with various bridges serving the main line, but don't have a good overview or time line. Obviously, answer as much or little of this as you want. (Same is true for anyone else who wants to jump in.) I'm just babbling my curiousities out loud; I don't expect to get an entire article reprint at no charge. Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Rick, 1934 Missouri map and 1941 AAA Tour Guide (Western Editon) show 50 coming in on Chouteau, then Manchester. Official Missouri state map, 2001-2002 aligned with the interstate. In Wendell Trogdon's book, Lonely Is the Road, he puts U S 50 crossing the Mississippi on I-255, then leaving the interstate and following Lindberg Avenue across the SW ede of the city, before merging with I-44, heading west and leaving I-44 about 30 miles from St. Louis. On the more recent Missouri maps I have (1965 and 2001-2002) Machester Road is signed MO 100. A search of other mapping sites, such as Streets and Trips and MapQuest do not show a U S 50 designation inside the city. My guess would be the route got buried under the madness called Interstates. Hudsonly, Alex B --- rlb0267 <rlb0267@yahoo.com> wrote: > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Jim Ross > <pathfinder66@e...> > wrote: > > A number of years ago I wrote a feature article in > that other > magazine on the alignments through STL. It was > called "Escape From > St. Louis." As the title suggests, that tangle of > routings is enough > to make your head spin. > > > > Jim R. > > Jim, > > I'm curious about the subject in general and one > route in particular. > First, the general. Were the number of alignment > changes (including > various City, Alt and Byp routes) on U.S. highways > in St. Louis > abnormally high compared to other metros? Why so > much jockeying > around? Are there resources other than old maps > (which may or may not > be very accurate) which you use to research these > obscure changes? > > I'm personally interested in knowing more about U.S. > 50's alignments. > When did it change from Manchester Road and what is > now Missouri 100 > to multiplexing with U.S. 66 through Pacific? Can't > remember if it > was here or somewhere else, but I thought I read a > reference to an > early 66 also being on Manchester before its > alignment moved to > Watson Road and through Pacific. Is that accurate? > > I'm also curious about U.S. 50's Mississippi River > crossing changes. > What bridges in what years. I've seen various maps > with various > bridges serving the main line, but don't have a good > overview or time > line. > > Obviously, answer as much or little of this as you > want. (Same is > true for anyone else who wants to jump in.) I'm just > babbling my > curiousities out loud; I don't expect to get an > entire article > reprint at no charge. > > Rick > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bakerhab@aol.com Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 The Kramer Junction message was for the Hwy 99 list, sorry. Helen Message: 3 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:27:00 EST From: Bakerhab@aol.com Subject: Kramer Junction vs. 4 Corners The intersection that Gary mentioned, Hwy 395 & Hwy 58, is called Kramer Junction. Harry, Helen & Elizabeth Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest phaedra muirhead Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 hey everyone! i just joined the group, and i'm excited to start reading bits and pieces of everyone's adventures. i am planning a trip down south in may, and i haven't seen my first glimpse of these places i've always imagined. i have a real thing for southern culture....or at least my ideas about it! every time i read a book or see a movie that's set in some small southern town i just feel so captivated and inspired to find those kind of places on the real earth! I don't know at all where i'm going yet, i'm hoping to get some advice. if you've spent a lot of time down south, and there are places you think have that magic i'm talking about.....please email me! i need guidance! i love bluegrass and gospel and horses and most of all friendly happy faces. thanks for any help you can offer!!! phaedra --------------------------------- Share your photos with the people who matter at Yahoo! Canada Photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Albert Pratts Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 This is a heads up for history fans. There is a program on History Channel today about the Oversea Highway. It will be on at 1pm and again at 7pm. Here is the program description: "A spectacular roadway nearly 120 miles long, the Overseas Highway links mainland Florida with the Florida Keys, and contains 51 bridges, including the Seven-Mile Bridge. A boat was the only mode of travel from Miami to Key West until oil tycoon Henry Flagler completed his railroad line in 1912. After a 1935 hurricane destroyed 40 miles of track, the scenic highway was built using Flagler's bridges. A $175-million refurbishment that ended in 1982 resulted in today's remarkable Overseas Highway." http://www.historychannel.com/global/listi...HC&View=Dai ly&fromDate=6&fromMonth=2&fromYear=2006&timezone=1 Albert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bakerhab@aol.com Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 I know that most of you are into on road vs. off road driving, but a free map is a free map. Helen Baker "Free Government Electronic Newsletter Shares Information and Fun on Natural Resources and Land Management in California" (BLM California news release, 3/12/2004) The free and fun to read electronic newsletter "Newsbytes" is offering subscribers a color wall map of California lands at no cost with its 150th-issue celebration on March 30, 2004. The BLM, a federal agency, publishes the weekly e-newsletter from its state office in Sacramento. http://www.ca.blm.gov/news/2004/03/nr/SOne...ytes_150th.html FREE OFFER - California Map To commemorate the 150th issue of the Bureau of Land Management News.bytes, we are offering a free 36- by 32-inch color wall map of California, depicting public and private lands. Follow this link and fill out the form online to request one. (Only one to a customer, please.) http://www6.ca.blm.gov/forms/newsbytes/issue150/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grandall52 Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Hi Mary, Your trip sounds great. There are so many really good routes you could take to get to Santa Fe, NM. Just stay off the Interstates if you want to see and experience America! You have already gotten some good suggestions from group members but I thought I might add my "two cents" so to say. Why not stay on Highway 50 pretty much all the way to Santa Fe? You will have to leave HWY 50 in La Junta, Colorado and take HWY 350 to Trinidad then I-25 over Raton Pass. The advantage of staying on HWY 50 is that you will be passing through the small towns that provide the greatest photo opportunities. And on the last leg of the trip you would be following the Mountain Branch of the Old Santa Fe Trail. What better way to get to Santa Fe from the "states" back east? Just a thought. If you decide to try the Santa Fe Trail route let me know as I live in La Junta and could show you some interesting historical sites in the area. That is if our schedules coincide - I'll be doing some work on Route 66 in Arizona the last week in April. Good luck with you trip. Half the fun is planning it :-) Guy Randall http://www.theroadwanderer.net/ --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "msclp2001" <msclp@a...> wrote: > > >...In April I will be traveling from Morgantown, WV to Santa Fe NM. >... I was thinking of taking Hwy 50, but I'm open to suggestions. Also, I'm a professional photographer with an interest in old signs, cool motels, etc... > Thanks very much, I look forward to hearing from you. - Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Hi Phaedra, Not, perhaps, deep south, but here's my site with a Route 61 road trip between Memphis and Clarksdale recently taken and a cross-Arkasas road trip taken a while back. http://www.freewebs.com/yankeetraveller/ (Use the links at the top) Hudsonly, Alex B phaedra muirhead <fairyphaedra@yahoo.ca> wrote: hey everyone! i just joined the group, and i'm excited to start reading bits and pieces of everyone's adventures. i am planning a trip down south in may, and i haven't seen my first glimpse of these places i've always imagined. i have a real thing for southern culture....or at least my ideas about it! every time i read a book or see a movie that's set in some small southern town i just feel so captivated and inspired to find those kind of places on the real earth! I don't know at all where i'm going yet, i'm hoping to get some advice. if you've spent a lot of time down south, and there are places you think have that magic i'm talking about.....please email me! i need guidance! i love bluegrass and gospel and horses and most of all friendly happy faces. thanks for any help you can offer!!! phaedra --------------------------------- Share your photos with the people who matter at Yahoo! Canada Photos Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 I have a feeling that your deep south and my deep south might not be quite the same. Most folks that read bluegrass and horses in the same sentence will likely think of Kentucky. In fact, bluegrass all by itself generally means Kentucky. To most US residents, that's not "deep south". But, depending on where you are in Canada, Fargo, ND, could be "south" and Topeka, KS "deep south";-) What states are you planning to visit? Denny Gibson Cincinnati, OH www.DennyGibson.com > -----Original Message----- > From: phaedra muirhead [mailto:fairyphaedra@yahoo.ca] > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:37 AM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] help me find the greatest places in > the deep south!!!! > > hey everyone! i just joined the group, and i'm excited to > start reading bits and pieces of everyone's adventures. i am > planning a trip down south in may, and i haven't seen my > first glimpse of these places i've always imagined. i have a > real thing for southern culture....or at least my ideas about > it! every time i read a book or see a movie that's set in > some small southern town i just feel so captivated and > inspired to find those kind of places on the real earth! I > don't know at all where i'm going yet, i'm hoping to get some > advice. if you've spent a lot of time down south, and there > are places you think have that magic i'm talking > about.....please email me! i need guidance! i love bluegrass > and gospel and horses and most of all friendly happy faces. > thanks for any help you can offer!!! > phaedra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Deep South (definition) = somewhere in southern Alabama!! LOL Hudsonly Alex B Denny Gibson <denny@dennygibson.com> wrote: I have a feeling that your deep south and my deep south might not be quite the same. Most folks that read bluegrass and horses in the same sentence will likely think of Kentucky. In fact, bluegrass all by itself generally means Kentucky. To most US residents, that's not "deep south". But, depending on where you are in Canada, Fargo, ND, could be "south" and Topeka, KS "deep south";-) What states are you planning to visit? Denny Gibson Cincinnati, OH www.DennyGibson.com > -----Original Message----- > From: phaedra muirhead [mailto:fairyphaedra@yahoo.ca] > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:37 AM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] help me find the greatest places in > the deep south!!!! > > hey everyone! i just joined the group, and i'm excited to > start reading bits and pieces of everyone's adventures. i am > planning a trip down south in may, and i haven't seen my > first glimpse of these places i've always imagined. i have a > real thing for southern culture....or at least my ideas about > it! every time i read a book or see a movie that's set in > some small southern town i just feel so captivated and > inspired to find those kind of places on the real earth! I > don't know at all where i'm going yet, i'm hoping to get some > advice. if you've spent a lot of time down south, and there > are places you think have that magic i'm talking > about.....please email me! i need guidance! i love bluegrass > and gospel and horses and most of all friendly happy faces. > thanks for any help you can offer!!! > phaedra Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance schools --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roustabout Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Pratts" <apratts@comcast.net> To: "Highways" <>; <flroads@yahoogroups.com>; <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:42 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Oversea Railway/Highway > > This is a heads up for history fans. There is a program on History > Channel today about the Oversea Highway. It will be on at 1pm and again > at 7pm. <Sigh:(> I hope they show it again. the last show was half over before I read about it. I took a tour bus to the Keys back whan I was in college (1967). One thing I remember well was how they used pieces of the old rails for railings on the bridges. My favorite place was the Bahia Honda Bridge. They simply laid the road bridge on top of the old railroad truss. BabyBoomerBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russell S. Rein Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Great program - thanks for the tip! I was worried that they would never mention US 1 but they did at the end. ypsi-slim On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:42:25 -0500 Albert Pratts <apratts@comcast.net> writes: This is a heads up for history fans. There is a program on History Channel today about the Oversea Highway. It will be on at 1pm and again at 7pm. Here is the program description: "A spectacular roadway nearly 120 miles long, the Overseas Highway links mainland Florida with the Florida Keys, and contains 51 bridges, including the Seven-Mile Bridge. A boat was the only mode of travel from Miami to Key West until oil tycoon Henry Flagler completed his railroad line in 1912. After a 1935 hurricane destroyed 40 miles of track, the scenic highway was built using Flagler's bridges. A $175-million refurbishment that ended in 1982 resulted in today's remarkable Overseas Highway." http://www.historychannel.com/global/listi...wCode=THC&V iew=Daily&fromDate=6&fromMonth=2&fromYear=2006&timezone=1 Albert Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Ross Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Rick, I think it safe to say that St. Louis did have an abnormal number of alignments. Part of it may have to do with being on the Illinois border, meaning any changes across the state line were apt to have an effect on the Missouri side. Most of what I know about St. Louis came from primary research by Jim Powell. If you will email your address to me at pathfinder66@earthlink.net I will send you a photocopy of the article. I think it will answer most of your questions. Regards, Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, phaedra muirhead <fairyphaedra@...> wrote: > > hey everyone! i just joined the group, and i'm excited to start reading bits and pieces of everyone's adventures. i am planning a trip down south in may, and i haven't seen my first glimpse of these places i've always imagined. i have a real thing for southern culture....or at least my ideas about it! every time i read a book or see a movie that's set in some small southern town i just feel so captivated and inspired to find those kind of places on the real earth! I don't know at all where i'm going yet, i'm hoping to get some advice. if you've spent a lot of time down south, and there are places you think have that magic i'm talking about.....please email me! i need guidance! i love bluegrass and gospel and horses and most of all friendly happy faces. > thanks for any help you can offer!!! > phaedra Welcome Phaedra! As a native and lifelong resident of Tennessee, I think I can point you toward a few nice places. I see you are a horse lover. Well, the best place for horses is Kentucky Horse Park, north of Lexington, KY. The state has preserved a working horse farm and has added venues for shows and races. http://www.kyhorsepark.com/ A little ways south of that is Renfro Valley, KY, home of the Renfro Valley Barn Dance. In the heyday of radio, the show was broadcast all over the south, featuring the best in country, bluegrass and gospel. http://www.renfrovalley.com/ Closer to my neck of the woods is Rugby, TN. The town was created as a place where landless British gentry could try their hand at building a new life in America. The community wasn't succeessful, but they left some neat Victorian homes and buildings. http://www.historicrugby.org/ Hope this helps! BabyBoomerBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest phaedra muirhead Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 yes yes....deep south....south....i guess i want to see more than just the deep south. i definately want to go to kentucky, and georgia, and tennessee, and alabama, and mississippi, and north carolina....probably not everywhere on this trip though! i'm really open to everyone elses guidance. Denny Gibson <denny@dennygibson.com> wrote: I have a feeling that your deep south and my deep south might not be quite the same. Most folks that read bluegrass and horses in the same sentence will likely think of Kentucky. In fact, bluegrass all by itself generally means Kentucky. To most US residents, that's not "deep south". But, depending on where you are in Canada, Fargo, ND, could be "south" and Topeka, KS "deep south";-) What states are you planning to visit? Denny Gibson Cincinnati, OH www.DennyGibson.com > -----Original Message----- > From: phaedra muirhead [mailto:fairyphaedra@yahoo.ca] > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:37 AM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] help me find the greatest places in > the deep south!!!! > > hey everyone! i just joined the group, and i'm excited to > start reading bits and pieces of everyone's adventures. i am > planning a trip down south in may, and i haven't seen my > first glimpse of these places i've always imagined. i have a > real thing for southern culture....or at least my ideas about > it! every time i read a book or see a movie that's set in > some small southern town i just feel so captivated and > inspired to find those kind of places on the real earth! I > don't know at all where i'm going yet, i'm hoping to get some > advice. if you've spent a lot of time down south, and there > are places you think have that magic i'm talking > about.....please email me! i need guidance! i love bluegrass > and gospel and horses and most of all friendly happy faces. > thanks for any help you can offer!!! > phaedra Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance schools --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- 7 bucks a month. This is Huge Yahoo! Music Unlimited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 I don't even have to look at his website to tell you that Alex has a fine knowledge of the delta...if you ever want to take a trek through a major part of american music history--the blues--highway 61 between Memphis and Clarksdale--with a side trip on 49 North to Helena AR, situs of the preeminent FREE blues festival in the country (usually the 2nd weekend in October), the Arkansas Blues and Heritage Festival, and another side trip down 49 South out of Clarksdale to Tutweiler, MS, situs of the final resting place of Sonny Boy Williamson, and the place that WC Handy allegedly "discovered" the blues, is a trek worth taking...and Clarksdale MS has so much to offer (and some of the finest people you will ever meet) as well...enjoy the ride and have some grits and country cured ham on the way! And don't forget the snack of choice, RC Cola and Moon Pie! Tsingtao Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Burr" <hester_nec@yahoo.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] help me find the greatest places in the deep south!!!! > Hi Phaedra, > > Not, perhaps, deep south, but here's my site with a Route 61 road trip between Memphis and Clarksdale recently taken and a cross-Arkasas road trip taken a while back. > > http://www.freewebs.com/yankeetraveller/ > > (Use the links at the top) > > > Hudsonly, > Alex B > > > phaedra muirhead <fairyphaedra@yahoo.ca> wrote: > hey everyone! i just joined the group, and i'm excited to start reading bits and pieces of everyone's adventures. i am planning a trip down south in may, and i haven't seen my first glimpse of these places i've always imagined. i have a real thing for southern culture....or at least my ideas about it! every time i read a book or see a movie that's set in some small southern town i just feel so captivated and inspired to find those kind of places on the real earth! I don't know at all where i'm going yet, i'm hoping to get some advice. if you've spent a lot of time down south, and there are places you think have that magic i'm talking about.....please email me! i need guidance! i love bluegrass and gospel and horses and most of all friendly happy faces. > thanks for any help you can offer!!! > phaedra > > > --------------------------------- > Share your photos with the people who matter at Yahoo! Canada Photos > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, > but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 One more way off thing...if you want to go as far south as you can get (and especially in light of the "Overseas Highway" posts) US 1 from Miami to Key West is one of the most spectacular blue highway drives imaginable, and Key West (especially off tourist season) is one of the neatest places in the world! Tsingtao Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "phaedra muirhead" <fairyphaedra@yahoo.ca> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:39 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] southern venture > yes yes....deep south....south....i guess i want to see more than just the deep south. i definately want to go to kentucky, and georgia, and tennessee, and alabama, and mississippi, and north carolina....probably not everywhere on this trip though! i'm really open to everyone elses guidance. > > Denny Gibson <denny@dennygibson.com> wrote: I have a feeling that your deep south and my deep south might not be quite > the same. Most folks that read bluegrass and horses in the same sentence > will likely think of Kentucky. In fact, bluegrass all by itself generally > means Kentucky. To most US residents, that's not "deep south". But, > depending on where you are in Canada, Fargo, ND, could be "south" and > Topeka, KS "deep south";-) What states are you planning to visit? > > Denny Gibson > Cincinnati, OH > www.DennyGibson.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: phaedra muirhead [mailto:fairyphaedra@yahoo.ca] > > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:37 AM > > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] help me find the greatest places in > > the deep south!!!! > > > > hey everyone! i just joined the group, and i'm excited to > > start reading bits and pieces of everyone's adventures. i am > > planning a trip down south in may, and i haven't seen my > > first glimpse of these places i've always imagined. i have a > > real thing for southern culture....or at least my ideas about > > it! every time i read a book or see a movie that's set in > > some small southern town i just feel so captivated and > > inspired to find those kind of places on the real earth! I > > don't know at all where i'm going yet, i'm hoping to get some > > advice. if you've spent a lot of time down south, and there > > are places you think have that magic i'm talking > > about.....please email me! i need guidance! i love bluegrass > > and gospel and horses and most of all friendly happy faces. > > thanks for any help you can offer!!! > > phaedra > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance schools > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > 7 bucks a month. This is Huge Yahoo! Music Unlimited > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thehinge@magpage.com> Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Make use of Kinko's stores in Tulsa or Oklahoma City, Pat. Real easy to use their self serve computers in most places...put a credit card in the server next to the monitor and double click on IE on the desktop. I used to work for that company....they paid me poorly, but I'd still use their services. Also, you'd be surprised how many truck stops have internet kiosks....not as easy to use though. Keys often stick and the track balls are awful on most kiosks. Have a good trip. No doubt this "secret" operation will involve road and/or Corvair photos and admiration. I'm just guessing.... lol. Matt Smallwood On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:52:01 -0000 "Pat B." <roadmaven@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi all....We'll be hitting the road Thursday on a double > secret covert > operation in the Sooner State. Our computer access will > be limited until > our return Sunday evening. If you have any questions or > comments > regarding the American Road Yahoo Group, we'll get to it > upon our > return, unless computer access can be found along the > road. > > Happy Trails! > > > > Pat Bremer > > American Road Yahoo Group Moderator [:-B] > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE > 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. > Clemens, MI 48046 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message > via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the > web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email > to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Thanks Matt, I'll remember that next time. However, the secret operative has been aborted and I am back at my post reporting for duty. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D Gardner Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Wow!... I remember *trekking* across America and seeing and staying at places like this: http://motelhell.blogspot.com/ Enjoy... Dave Gardner, CCNA, CDLP Senior Specialist/Writer-Editor Pacific Consultants Group 793 S Tracy Blvd 131 Tracy CA 95376 http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/davidgardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim conkle Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Hi Dave, Thanks for sharing this with us, it is a different web site then we normally see. James M Conkle CEO Route 66 Preservation Foundation Preservation Historic Roads & Corridors P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760 617 3991 760 868 8614 fax 760 868 3320 jimconkle@verizon.net www.cart66pf.org -----Original Message----- From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of D Gardner Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 10:57 AM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Stumbled over this website... and it applies to our Travels! Wow!... I remember *trekking* across America and seeing and staying at places like this: http://motelhell.blogspot.com/ Enjoy... Dave Gardner, CCNA, CDLP Senior Specialist/Writer-Editor Pacific Consultants Group 793 S Tracy Blvd 131 Tracy CA 95376 http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/davidgardner Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. Clemens, MI 48046 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance schools ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D Gardner Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Hi Jim and all... When I was a kid, my folks would toss my sis and me into the back of their Ford Country-Squire station wagon and drag the family across the US from New Mexico over to Pennsylvania, New Jersey (to visit grandparents and aunts, uncles, cousins), then over to Montana (to visit friends) and then back down to New Mexico.... So... in the days before too many Interstates, we'd see things like the giant Paul Bunyan and Babe the Blue Ox in Bimidji, MN; the Black Hills in the Dakotas; lots of "Mystery Spots"; Stuckey's Running Indian "rest-stops"; Howard Johnson's; and so on. I remember staying at a strange motel before flying overseas--it was on the El Camino Real in Milbrae, CA (what's sort of the 101 freeway now)... This motel was done up in the "traditional Spanish Colonial Style"--with the adobe-look and red-tile roof... it had a *raised swimming pool*... and if one took the stairway with the neon sign advertising a restaurant down below, you'd come across a restaurant designed to look like a Spanish Galleon's interior... with all the nautical-style fixtures... The restaurant and bar had a large window across from the bar that looked into the swimming pool... so you could see the swimmers just messing around and some folks doing the "aquatic ballet" stuff. That pool made an impression on me as a kid... I still remember eating my cheeseburger and watching the underwater antics of the folks in the pool. Ah... to be on the *road* again! Dave Gardner, CCNA, CDLP Senior Specialist/Writer-Editor Pacific Consultants Group 793 S Tracy Blvd 131 Tracy CA 95376 http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/davidgardner --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jim conkle" <jimconkle@...> wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > Thanks for sharing this with us, it is a different web site then we normally > see. > > James M Conkle > CEO > Route 66 Preservation Foundation > Preservation Historic Roads & Corridors > P O Box 290066 > Phelan, CA 92329-0066 > 760 617 3991 > 760 868 8614 fax > 760 868 3320 > jimconkle@... > www.cart66pf.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of D Gardner > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 10:57 AM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Stumbled over this website... and it applies to > our Travels! > > > > Wow!... I remember *trekking* across America and > seeing and staying at places like this: > > http://motelhell.blogspot.com/ > > Enjoy... > > Dave Gardner, CCNA, CDLP > Senior Specialist/Writer-Editor > Pacific Consultants Group > 793 S Tracy Blvd 131 > Tracy CA 95376 > http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/davidgardner > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877- 285-5434 > WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. Clemens, MI 48046 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD- owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@... POST a message via e-mail, send it > to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance > Small business finance > Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business > finance schools > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- > -- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- > -- > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rwarn17588 Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 -- The Coliseum Ballroom in Benld, Ill., is for sale. It can be yours for $210,000. -- State Farm Insurance has become a big sponsor for the "Cars" movie. Its Web site includes a "coming soon" link to "Cruisin' Route 66." Ron Warnick Tulsa, OK www.route66news.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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