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In a message dated 5/1/06 11:32:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

 

denny@dennygibson.com writes:

 

 

 

I've actually only been on the Parkway once and that was a fairly short

 

stretch at the north end.

 

 

 

 

 

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I drove all of it north to south in 1974. However, I was an idiot and did it

 

in three days, so I really didn't do much except drive. I could easily spend

 

two weeks on it, checking out all the trails and stuff.

 

 

 

Tom Hoffman

 

Pearisburg VA

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Guest beckyrepp

Denny,

 

 

 

If you don't have any luck we can put you in touch with Frank Brusca

 

(from Route 40.net). Let me know . . .

 

 

 

:-)

 

Becky Repp

 

becky@mockturtlepress.com

 

AMERICAN ROAD magazine

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Darn! There goes my hopes of having a rare misprint;-) Looks like the

 

> libraries in Omaha & Van Buren, Indiana, had similar inventory. I think

 

> contacting Thomas Vale is entirely possible and just may give that a

 

try.

 

> Good idea.

 

>

 

> Sadly, work (actually a key trade show) will prevent me from getting to

 

> Albuquerque. Every time I read a message about someone's plans my

 

jealousy

 

> quotient goes up a notch. Same with the upcoming Munger Moss

 

gathering. I

 

> may have to start deleting messages that mention either to keep my

 

JQ from

 

> boiling over.

 

>

 

> --Denny

 

>

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: Mike Ward [mailto:flyboy1946@...]

 

> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:17 PM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] US-40 Book/Picture question

 

>

 

>

 

> Denny,

 

>

 

> I have copies of both books also. I see what you mean about the

 

apparent

 

> cropping of Stewart's 1953 photograph compared to the one shown in the

 

> Vale's book. My copy is also a library copy (from the Omaha Public

 

> Library). I suppose that if one could get in touch with the Vales they

 

> might be able to shed some light on this question.

 

>

 

> Are you going to make it to Albuquerque in June?

 

>

 

> Mike

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: Denny Gibson<mailto:denny@...>

 

> To:

 

<mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> ;

 

> <mailto:route-40@yahoogroups.com>

 

> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 3:59 PM

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] US-40 Book/Picture question

 

>

 

>

 

> I've been doing some arm chair traveling down US-40 using George

 

Stewart's

 

> 1953 book. My speed is about half what it could be because after a few

 

> pages

 

> I find I just have to read the matching section in the Vale's 1983

 

> "sequel".

 

> I'm sure many group members are familiar with one or both of these

 

books.

 

> Stewart's book contains nearly a hundred pictures that he took in the

 

> early

 

> '50s. In 1983, Thomas and Geraldine Vale did a "then & now" book

 

with many

 

> of Stewart's photos reproduced next to their own updated views of

 

the same

 

> scenes. I've just crossed the Rockies in 1953 and am approaching

 

them in

 

> 1983. I'm enjoying the trip but have a question for anyone with a

 

copy of

 

> Stewart's book.

 

>

 

> Picture #49 is titled "Front Range and Hogback". Stewart says it

 

was taken

 

> "about a dozen miles west of Denver". When I read his description,

 

I had

 

> some difficulty seeing everything he mentioned; Particularly a highway

 

> "dotted with cars". But, when I read the Vales' description, those

 

"dots"

 

> were quite obvious in both pictures printed in their book.

 

Comparing the

 

> two

 

> books, it's easy to see that the 1953 Stewart picture and the 1983

 

Stewart

 

> picture are different crops of the same photograph. A readily

 

identified

 

> rock is at the far right of the 1983 reproduction. Same with the Vale

 

> version and a road is front and center to its left. But that rock

 

is at

 

> the

 

> far left of the 1953 printing with no room for the road.

 

>

 

> Anyone know what the story is? If you have a copy of the Stewart book,

 

> could

 

> you take a look and see what your picture #49 looks like? My copy is a

 

> retired library book that I bought used. It's a hardcover with no

 

> indication

 

> of being a second or special printing. The Vale's make no comment that

 

> would

 

> explain it and the picture they've reproduced is almost certainly

 

the one

 

> Stewart was talking about in his own text.

 

>

 

> --Denny

 

>

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

My sister in law lives up in Spooner, WI, about 50 miles South of Duluth

 

(there is a motel called the Green Acres in Spooner which is cool looking

 

but a bit pricey); I will try to get in touch with her and if I have

 

anything to offer I will let you know. Tsingtao, Kip

 

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To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 6:50 AM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Looking for a motel in Duluth

 

 

 

 

 

> Susan and I plan on driving to Duluth, MN around Labor Day.

 

> We're going to check out the North Shore Highway and take a cruise

 

> around the Apostle Islands, among other things. We were wondering

 

> if anyone could recommend a motel there. Preferably a reasonably

 

> priced "Mom and Pop" place. Good neon not a requirement, but a

 

> plus:)

 

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> Thanks,

 

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> BabyBoomerBob

 

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Guest BringBackRoute66.com

Dear Group,

 

 

 

Yesterday I had an enjoyable telephone conversation with a Mr. Eddie Lang of

 

Sacramento, California. He has been waging a valiant, heroic effort

 

to "bring back Route 40" in the western United States.

 

 

 

As most of you are certainly aware, Old Route 40's U.S. Route designation

 

got pulled in the west a bit at a time between about 1964 and the 1980's.

 

(I don't have the exact dates). The official end of U.S. Highway 40 now lies

 

at an unremarked location known to some as "Silver Creek Jct" in the middle

 

of nowhere east of the Salt Lake City area. This is a sad fact, in a way,

 

since Old U.S. 40 was for a time one of our greatest transcontinental

 

highways. It was immortalized in George R. Stewart's book "U.S. 40; A

 

Crossection of the United States of America"

 

 

 

It was most unfortunate that many of the younger people living in Northern

 

California had never even heard of 40. In fact, I was in a fine restaurant

 

one time in Vacaville, CA and noticed an old black and white photo on the

 

wall by the cash register. It showed and old two-lane concrete road

 

crossing an old-fashioned bridge near a walnut grove. The caption under the

 

photo stated simply "Interstate 80 in 1931". Yes, old U.S. 40 had been

 

forgotten in California.

 

 

 

Enter Eddie Lang. His tireless efforts have resulted in the installation of

 

nearly 1,000 black and white "Historic" U.S. 40 signs. And now he has

 

somehow managed to convince the "powers that be" to install large, exit

 

signs along I-80 directing interested motorists to Historic U.S. 40.

 

 

 

He has a plan in place whereby any interested person can "buy" an Historic

 

U.S. 40 sign which CALTRANS then installs along the roadway. He said he is

 

now getting ready to move on to Nevada.

 

 

 

May the Dear Lord bless you, Eddie. As a life-long lover of U.S. 40, I am

 

forever grateful! I'm also quite sure that the Late George Stewart is

 

smiling in his grave.

 

 

 

 

 

Fred M. Cain,

 

U.S. Route 66 Re-commissioning Initiative

 

http://www.bringbackroute66.com

 

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Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net>

Yo!

 

 

 

If you are taking I-64/40 to Chesterfield, a BIG traffic warning: After 7

 

p.m. they are closing the road to tear down the Compton Ave. overpass.

 

Should you be going that way at that time or after, here is a recommended

 

detour: Take the Forest Park Parkway Exit. Take the Parkway to Euclid. Turn

 

right on Euclid. Take Euclid to Laclede (should be about a block. Turn Left

 

on Laclede. Take Laclede to Kingshighway (about a block). turn left on

 

Kingshighway (get in the far right lane asap). Take Kingshighway to 64-40

 

(exit to 64-40 West on the right side of Kingshighway).

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Guest Carolyn Hasenfratz

Hi everybody,

 

 

 

I've been contacted by a man who takes photos of historic or just

 

plain old outhouses. He recently visited John's Modern Cabins for that

 

purpose and asked me if I had any ideas for sites to visit. I

 

suggested the Sno-Cap in Seligman and Red Oak II Missouri. Does anyone

 

else have any ideas that I could pass along to him?

 

 

 

Thanks a lot!

 

 

 

Carolyn Hasenfratz (Jeep Girl)

 

 

 

www.chasenfratz.com

 

www.jmcnews.com

 

www.missouri66.org

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Guest David G. Clark

I vaguely remember that there is an outhouse behind the Pioneer

 

Museum in Chandler Oklahoma

 

 

 

Dave Clark

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Carolyn Hasenfratz"

 

<carolyn_hasenfratz@...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Hi everybody,

 

>

 

> I've been contacted by a man who takes photos of historic or just

 

> plain old outhouses. He recently visited John's Modern Cabins for

 

that

 

> purpose and asked me if I had any ideas for sites to visit. I

 

> suggested the Sno-Cap in Seligman and Red Oak II Missouri. Does

 

anyone

 

> else have any ideas that I could pass along to him?

 

>

 

> Thanks a lot!

 

>

 

> Carolyn Hasenfratz (Jeep Girl)

 

>

 

> www.chasenfratz.com

 

> www.jmcnews.com

 

> www.missouri66.org

 

>

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Guest jim conkle

And don't forget the two seat one at Sue's Seaba Station in Chandler, OK.

 

This one is listed as an historical site.

 

 

 

Who ever is doing this research I would love to have contact with them.

 

There is a great story w/photos for The Route 66 Pulse. Please have this

 

person contact me.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

Jim Conkle

 

General Manager

 

The Route 66 Pulse

 

P O Box 290066

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

760 617 3991

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

760 868 3320

 

jconkle@route66pulse.com

 

www.route66pulse.com

 

 

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

CEO

 

Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

Preservation Historic Roads & Corridors

 

P O Box 290066

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

760 617 3991

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

760 868 3320

 

jimconkle@verizon.net

 

www.cart66pf.org

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Hi Pat,

 

 

 

The link does not seem to work. Please check and re-send.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Jim Conkle

 

General Manager

 

The Route 66 Pulse

 

P O Box 290066

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

760 617 3991

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

760 868 3320

 

jconkle@route66pulse.com

 

www.route66pulse.com

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

[mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Pat B.

 

Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:13 AM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Unusual Information Request

 

 

 

 

 

Carolyn,

 

If he doesn't need them specific to Route 66, there's a unique one

 

along State Road 16 in Gays, IL:

 

http://roadtripmemories.com/images/rtm/lit...chfield200401.J

 

PG

 

 

 

Pat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Well if you had not planned on coming to the Albuquerque you now have a very

 

good reason to attend. At least the Friday evening event as this is going to

 

be a sell out once the word gets out on what I am going to share with you.

 

 

 

Our very special guest will be Chuck Rogers, the grandson of Will Rogers. If

 

at all possible he will be there to hand out the first Will Rogers Award. As

 

will Michelle & Joe Carter from the Will Rogers Memorial Museum and Todd

 

Vradenburg from the Will Rogers Motion Picture Pioneers Foundation.

 

 

 

Add in that this will be the debut of The Route 66 Pulse newspaper.

 

 

 

Now if that was not enough we will have a few folks from Pixar in

 

attendance. Now we don't want to say it will be John Lasseter but do not be

 

surprised if it is him. Although he is scheduled to be out of the country

 

at that time he wants very much to join us. We have also asked for a few

 

more of the stars from the movie CARS to join us other then our very own

 

Michael Wallis. Disney has to make this decision but we have asked and they

 

have not said no, yet.

 

 

 

The group in NM that is spearheading the event, led by Steve and Bruce, have

 

worked very hard with us to make sure all of you enjoy yourselves while in

 

Albuquerque. We have bee honored and pleased to work with such a GREAT

 

group. We have also made many new friends and you will too when you meet

 

them.

 

 

 

This event is shaping up to be a huge success so come join us for the week

 

end or at least the Friday evening event.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

CEO

 

Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

Preservation Historic Roads & Corridors

 

P O Box 290066

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

760 617 3991

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

760 868 3320

 

jimconkle@verizon.net

 

www.cart66pf.org

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jim conkle" <jimconkle@...>

 

wrote:

 

>

 

> Hi Pat,

 

>

 

> The link does not seem to work. Please check and re-send.

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Jim,

 

Yeah, I found that out! The webmistress has our website rigged for it

 

to automatically go to our main page when accessing via a link. When

 

have problems with bloggers using images from our site that sucks up

 

our bandwidth (or something like that...webmistress can elaborate since

 

she's the brains of the operation). So, with that in mind:

 

 

 

--go to http://www.roadtripmemories.com

 

--click "Our Road Trips & Events"

 

--scroll down until you find "Litchfield 1st Annual Route 66 Classic Car

 

Festival - Litchfield, Illinois - June 26 - 27, 2004"

 

--scroll down to the bottom of the page. It's the first picture in the

 

last row.

 

 

 

Pat B.

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Guest jim conkle

Pat,

 

 

 

That works. WOW! a double decker. Now who uses the top floor?

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

CEO

 

Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

Preservation Historic Roads & Corridors

 

P O Box 290066

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

760 617 3991

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

760 868 3320

 

jimconkle@verizon.net

 

www.cart66pf.org

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

[mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Pat B.

 

Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:07 AM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Unusual Information Request

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jim conkle" <jimconkle@...>

 

wrote:

 

>

 

> Hi Pat,

 

>

 

> The link does not seem to work. Please check and re-send.

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Jim,

 

Yeah, I found that out! The webmistress has our website rigged for it

 

to automatically go to our main page when accessing via a link. When

 

have problems with bloggers using images from our site that sucks up

 

our bandwidth (or something like that...webmistress can elaborate since

 

she's the brains of the operation). So, with that in mind:

 

 

 

--go to http://www.roadtripmemories.com

 

--click "Our Road Trips & Events"

 

--scroll down until you find "Litchfield 1st Annual Route 66 Classic Car

 

Festival - Litchfield, Illinois - June 26 - 27, 2004"

 

--scroll down to the bottom of the page. It's the first picture in the

 

last row.

 

 

 

Pat B.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jim conkle" <jimconkle@...>

 

wrote:

 

>

 

> Pat,

 

>

 

> That works. WOW! a double decker. Now who uses the top floor?

 

>

 

> Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Jim,

 

 

 

I think the 2nd floor was to be used when the snow got deep enough to

 

cover up the first floor, or something like that.

 

 

 

Interesting!

 

 

 

Jennifer

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Guest Alex Burr

Wasn't the 2nd floor used by politicians?? LOL

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

 

 

--- Jennifer <jabremer66@aol.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jim conkle"

 

> <jimconkle@...>

 

> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Pat,

 

> >

 

> > That works. WOW! a double decker. Now who uses the

 

> top floor?

 

> >

 

> > Thanks

 

>

 

>

 

> Hi Jim,

 

>

 

> I think the 2nd floor was to be used when the snow

 

> got deep enough to

 

> cover up the first floor, or something like that.

 

>

 

> Interesting!

 

>

 

> Jennifer

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Pat,

 

 

 

The 3 L&C stamps were issued April 7. They were designed as a "semi-

 

jumbo" size in the early 19th century style. Even though they are

 

printed stamps, they surely resemble the days when postage stamps

 

were engraved, like currency, rather than drawn or painted.

 

 

 

One unusual happening for these stamps, was the fact that the postal

 

service had 11 First Day of Issue cities, rather than the usual one.

 

 

 

God Bless and Happy Trails.

 

 

 

the landrunner

 

<http://www.postmarkart.com/links.htm>

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Pat B." <roadmaven@a...> wrote:

 

> Hey all...I had to get some stamps today and my post office had in

 

> stock the Lewis & Clark Bicentennial stamps:

 

>

 

> http://shop.usps.com/images/04_louisandclark37_f.jpg

 

>

 

> This is the first time I'd bought these & they're very unique, as

 

far

 

> as stamps are concerned. They have the look and feel of money. Not

 

> sure how long these have been out (perhaps our resident retired

 

> postal worker can shed some light here), but they're a neat change

 

> from the usual.

 

>

 

> Pat B.

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Try this for ST Louis as well since it is free

 

 

 

http://www.traffic.com

 

 

 

 

 

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Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] TRAFFIC ALERT--US 40 construction

 

Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 08:12:02 -0500

 

 

 

Yo!

 

 

 

If you are taking I-64/40 to Chesterfield, a BIG traffic warning: After 7

 

p.m. they are closing the road to tear down the Compton Ave. overpass.

 

Should you be going that way at that time or after, here is a recommended

 

detour: Take the Forest Park Parkway Exit. Take the Parkway to Euclid. Turn

 

right on Euclid. Take Euclid to Laclede (should be about a block. Turn Left

 

on Laclede. Take Laclede to Kingshighway (about a block). turn left on

 

Kingshighway (get in the far right lane asap). Take Kingshighway to 64-40

 

(exit to 64-40 West on the right side of Kingshighway).

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We live in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, actually Greensburg, 30 miles from Baton

 

Rouge.

 

My husband grew up traveling all over Texas, Oklahoma, and New Mexico. His dad

 

worked for Chicago Bridge and Iron and they moved about every 6 weeks building

 

bridges, tanks, etc., that are still there today. My son lives in Destin,

 

Florida. He said to fill up in Mobile, Alabama because there is no gas past

 

Mobile right now. The best way to travel cheap is to tent. Do you tent? I

 

have slept in the back of a pick-up truck with a mattress in it and a camper

 

shell on top. Gets pretty cold in there when it is cold. A tent is actually

 

warmer. That is why cold drinks are in aluminum cans because they get cold so

 

fast (metal on pick-up truck) and tents are nylon and plastic and are warmer.

 

 

 

So, have you been to Amarillo and seen Palo Duro Canyon? Don't go in the

 

summer: too hot. Go spring or fall. Have you been to that Dinosaur Park like

 

Southwest of Dallas? Great! You gotta go. Walk in the dinosaur footprints

 

when you walk down the creek. You can really see the footprints better from

 

above the creek, then go down it and walk in the cool creek. The only thing is,

 

you can't see them good after a big rain; but you usually don't get a big rain

 

in July or August. But, if you go too early in the summer or spring you will

 

have big water so you can't see the footprints and, they won't even let you go

 

back by the creek or you might not obey the rules and go ahead and get in when

 

the water is rushing too fast. If you just get a cheapo tent, and a little

 

Coleman stove, a couple of water jugs, sleeping bags, lantern, flashlight, and

 

picnic food, you can afford to take a trip. The big expense will be gas. State

 

and federal parks will cost sometimes as low as $6-$12

 

dollars per night. We even stopped and got out the Coleman to grill cheese

 

sandwiches and make coffee on the side of the road for lunch. McDonalds and

 

Burger King and restaurants can run up the money for a trip. Eggs, bacon and

 

biscuits on the Coleman are wonderful. What you do is get a flat rock. You put

 

an 8" baking pan on the flat rock inside the cast iron dutch oven with the lid

 

on, on your Coleman or even a fire and the biscuits will bake up beautifully.

 

The canned biscuits will keep in your ice chest in a zip-lock bag. You don't

 

want the paper carton of the bisquits to get wet. Just get a couple of 1/2

 

gallon jugs for tea and water or Crystal Lite. That's cheaper than canned

 

drinks. You can brink a box of hot choc packs for the kids or if you don't

 

drink coffee if it's cold. You are right, the biggest expense is gas, but if

 

you camp in a tent in state or federal parks, cook you own food, make your own

 

drinks, you can afford the trip. All you really need is a gas

 

card. Most parks will take Visa or MasterCard. Not all of them will take AM

 

EX. If you get ready to go for it, I can give you plenty of meal plans to cook

 

on the fire or the Coleman. You can really cook anything that you eat at home.

 

You need as magnalite two burner griddle or a heavy griddle. That will do

 

pancakes, burgers, bacon, eggs, steaks, dogs, anything. Be on the look out for

 

a camp coffee pot: stainless steel. The Academy might have one, but sometimes

 

they are hard to find and you need to look for them in junk stores. The extra

 

water jugs are for dishwashing. You need a plastic dish tub to wash your

 

dishes. Once you go a couple of times, then you know what you need. Lawn

 

chairs, of course. Rain stuff, of course. Firestarter for building your fire.

 

There are probably some great places to camp within 30 miles of you, okay 50,

 

but that is not too far to have a great time. I know lots of people that camp

 

and never really go far from the house. Start gathering

 

up your stuff a little at a time, like citronella and bug sprays for mosquitoes

 

and sunscreens and hats. You might can start picking up camp stuff at garage

 

sales. Just make sure you have all the tent stakes and the stove works before

 

you leave your house. Luxury is the blow up mattresses and you need a

 

plug-in-the-car air compressor for those or you'll never get them blown up. I

 

did a lot of camp cooking with a plan ole electric skillet with a lid. That

 

will do a lot and big cans of Dinty Moore Beef Stew is a life saver.

 

 

 

Hoda

 

 

 

Angelica Brewer <angelicabrewer@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

 

Thats great. I dont travel as much as you do.. but you tell wonderful stories

 

and I like to hear them. Dentin Texas? Was that right? We are in Oklahoma

 

City... dont know how far that is from Dentin but I bet it isnt far.

 

 

 

Love road trips.. but with gas prices where they are we arnt doing much

 

traveling either. My mother and father live in Florida (old people lol j/k) and

 

they have a camper and for the summer they took our 13 year old up to see

 

relatives in Kentucky, Indiana and Michigan. He was pretty excited about the

 

road trip "in style" as he calls it with Nana and Grandpa's trailer in tow..

 

 

 

Talk to you soon

 

GEL

 

 

 

 

 

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Don't forget the time I was coming home from Paris via Memphis and caught a

 

flight with Uncle Barry - neither of us knew it of course. When Uncle Barry was

 

coming down the ramp he saw a huge crowd of relatives there to greet him home

 

from his business trip, what a nice surprise!!! But the truth was that they

 

were really there to greet me coming back from my summer in Europe. We all went

 

out to eat together to celebrate, of course!!!

 

 

 

Kim Wyble, Hoda and Barry's niece

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest J Lance

> I am a huge fan of US 67. I grew up "going to grandma's" from Little

 

> Rock to St. Louis (Maryville, IL) on US 67. And I am very happy that

 

> I archived via audio tape my travels up and down US 67. I recently

 

> pulled out a tape from 1981. There were many things to be seen and

 

> look for on US 67. To name a few:

 

>

 

> FoJo Signs

 

> Call of the Wild Museum

 

> Ozark Trading Post

 

> Grave of the Unknown Civil War Soldier

 

> Bonne Terre Mines

 

>

 

> Of the above items, only the grave and Mines are still around. Call

 

> of the Wild is now a strip joint (sign of the times) and Ozark

 

> Trading Post seems to be someone's home now.

 

>

 

> Listening to that 1981 tape, I would get excited (I was 11) when I

 

> came upon these Americana things. I mentioned every FoJo sign,

 

> pointed out the Lion Gas station, the old "Buy Quality, Quaker State

 

> Motor Oil" signs, the older, smaller US 67 signs, and more. Even read

 

> a sign for a motel that featured "Dial Phone and Color TV."

 

 

 

Do you have any way to get the video to your PC? I'd love to see

 

screenshots of this video, especially the old US 67 signs.

 

 

 

> Now near me, on the old 67 (AR 367) in Cabot, you can spot a rusty old

 

> sign for the Texas Motel. I'd love to take it or better yet, paint it

 

> and put it back in its glory.

 

 

 

There were several old hotel signs in Newport as of about 9 years ago, but

 

they may be gone now. I took some pictures of a few of the signs, but I

 

don't have a working scanner.

 

 

 

> The railroad crosssings are still there in Hoxie, and pretty much still

 

> active. I stopped for the night there a couple months ago when I was

 

> taking

 

> a weekend roadtrip. The trains come and go at all hours and it can be

 

> really

 

> tough on a light sleeper (like me).

 

 

 

What's odd about the railroad crossings?

 

 

 

> Quite a bit of the original US67 is still in use, mostly as AR367 and

 

> US67B

 

> south of Bald Knob. North of Newport, like many areas in the delta, the

 

> original paving is between the current highway and the railway. The lack

 

> of

 

> development in these little towns has preserved some good road-a-bilia.

 

> The

 

> lack of traffic makes the trip kind of pleasant (that's quite unlike what

 

> it

 

> used to be like in 1968).

 

 

 

The old road between Alicia and Hoxie has been added to the National

 

Register of Historic Places, so maybe it will be preserved. They should

 

place 1930's spec signage on the road.

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Yes, the Kentucky Horse Park in Lexington Ky was good, as was an early visit

 

to Keenland Racetrack to watch the horses exercise, even if you are not a

 

horse fan.

 

Nashville's a gas! Try NashTrash Tours, the Country Music Hall of Fame, The

 

Grand Ole Oprey and the Opreyland Hotel itself, just to see! Friday nights

 

at the Bluebird cafe in Nashville is a great visit. On the way to Memphis

 

from Nashville stop at the Casey Jones Village in Jackson for breakfast, and

 

don't miss Graceland and the very interesting National Civil Rights Museum.

 

Have fun,

 

Walter from Glasgow

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I'm new to the group. I thought I would share a picture I took this

 

past weekend on US 101 near Solvang, California. The diner is

 

probably a house now. It has two original railroad passenger cars

 

attached to the structure. Its sign is still there on the roof. The

 

restaurant was called the Cafe Diner Cars. Good name for it, eh? Anyone

 

have more info on this one?

 

 

 

Enjoy!

 

 

 

Jeff

 

 

 

http://www.retro-matic.com/images/CafeDinerCars.gif

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****When I

 

mentioned I was from Kennebunk, ME, she exclaimed that

 

she and her family had had a summer place in

 

Kennebunkport in the 1920's and 1930's and did I know

 

the wonderful gentleman who had done their yard

 

maintenance - a Mr. Burr. Mr. Burr was my grandfather*****

 

 

 

 

 

One summer my daughter had a job at Glacier National Park with the Student

 

Conservation Association, for a month of trail building. I decided it would be

 

more fun to drive there from Vermont as I went to the University of Montana

 

and wanted to go back and visit.

 

 

 

I camped in Glacier NP for a while, then travelled all over the northwest.

 

When I came back to get my daughter, we then travelled all over the place,

 

ultimately coming home by way of Arizona ;-) We stopped at Theodore Roosevelt

 

National Park in North Dakota. The campground hosts ran over to greet us

 

because they were from Vermont. After talking a bit, we discovered she was the

 

nurse for my daughter's boyfriend's grandfather who was a local doc in Vermont.

 

They said there were more Vermonters on bicycles at the end of the campground.

 

 

 

As we are walking down the road, a guy comes over and says Wendy! Heather!

 

We were clueless. He was a teacher from Montpelier, VT who was following the

 

Lewis and Clark Trail on a bicycle. He and his partner had brought high school

 

students here to our farm to see our organic CSA farm and our underground

 

house. It was freaky! ;-)

 

 

 

 

 

We camp and travel up to half of each year, so things like this happen

 

pretty regularly. I could probably fill a book with odd, chance meetings. THEN,

 

there are the incredibly interesting people with great stories to tell...we were

 

obviously meant to meet ;-)

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Denny Gibson

Would love a Corvair ride to Baden Springs but my son and his family have

 

just arrived. He's in the Navy and they are traveling from Norfolk to his

 

next assignment in Bremerton (named after some relative of yours, I

 

assume:). There is no firm schedule but I believe they'll be here through

 

Saturday. I've not been there and have heard just enough about it to know I

 

want to see it. Sure do appreciate the offer.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: Pat B. [mailto:roadmaven@aol.com]

 

> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:19 PM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Driving American Two-Lane Roads 050712

 

>

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...> wrote:

 

>

 

> > Is it possible that this is the only place that the famous Bremer

 

> Route 66

 

> > Sofa can be viewed online? Quite a coup there, Toshio.

 

> >

 

> > --Denny

 

>

 

> Ya know, Denny, I'm surprised too we don't have any pics of our Route

 

> 66 Family Room on our web site. Not thumping my chest, but we've got

 

> some pretty cool stuff, that, now that I think of it, only 4 other

 

> roadies have ever seen: Toshio & Hiroko, and Randy & Melody May. I

 

> think that'll be fixin' to change! I'll post a note once it gets done.

 

> However, if you look really close in Toshio's picture of our futon, you

 

> can barely see on the bookshelf T. Repp's "Empires of the Amusement"

 

> standing proudly above the rest...just to keep it on topic. :-)

 

>

 

> Also Denny, we're heading down to French Lick, Indiana Saturday to tour

 

> the West Baden Springs Hotel with our Corvair club. Ever been there &

 

> would you want to ride shot gun??

 

>

 

> Pat B.

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interesting...i don't know anythign about it, but my husband & i are diner

 

junkies. we like to stop at as many as we can when we travel the US. there's

 

another yahoo group called "roadside fans", and i bet someone tere will know

 

about it. if you are into diners & other roadside attractions, you may just want

 

to join them anyway :)

 

melanie

 

 

 

Jeff Shank <jshank@retro-matic.com> wrote:

 

I'm new to the group. I thought I would share a picture I took this

 

past weekend on US 101 near Solvang, California. The diner is

 

probably a house now. It has two original railroad passenger cars

 

attached to the structure. Its sign is still there on the roof. The

 

restaurant was called the Cafe Diner Cars. Good name for it, eh? Anyone

 

have more info on this one?

 

 

 

Enjoy!

 

 

 

Jeff

 

 

 

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Quinn Natalie and I are making our annual sojurn to the great North country for

 

the fourth...will be back in town a week from Sunday! Everybody have a good

 

time and safe travels this fourth of july! Tsingtao Kip

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