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Mike, I belong to a couple of other groups and lurk on a couple. I am a

 

Moderator on one. They have all been hit as well. I also go to several

 

newsgroups that are on 4 different servers. They are all getting hit. It is

 

not just this group not is it just Yahoo. In some cases, the Moderator may just

 

be catching them and getting the messages deleted before most of the members get

 

them. We had one post at 4 AM yesterday and as luck would have it, I was up

 

early and caught it before anyone else saw it. The ones that are going around

 

now, are joining, posting then disappearing. Like Bob said, if the list was

 

moderator approved, that might cut down some, but there are still those that are

 

willing to wait on approval, then post and disappear. Their addresses are

 

usually bogus, so they don't care if anyone knows they are there.

 

Schools out and the kiddies are all online playing. For 2 weeks I have been

 

getting a record number of e-mails with viruses, etc. Things should calm down

 

in a week or so.

 

dona

 

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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:21 AM

 

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What is it about the American Road yahoo group that it is getting all this

 

awful spam? Please don't think I'm thinking it's anyone's fault or roadmaven

 

responsibility to deal with it or anything... it's just interesting to me that

 

I

 

wonder why it's always American Road. I belong to probably a dozen or so Yahoo

 

Groups and this is the only one that this keeps happening to.

 

Any ideas?

 

 

 

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If it didn't get them business, they wouldn't be doing it. You would be

 

surprised how many people do check out these sites. One of the things they are

 

going for is harvesting valid e-mail addresses. Do an online search for "Mail

 

Brokers" or "E-mail brokers". Selling addresses is big business.

 

"We now return you back to your regular postings"

 

dona

 

 

 

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From: mike@catsupbottle.com

 

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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:34 AM

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] What is it about American Road?

 

 

 

 

 

And you know what else is odd. I guess it's just the thrill of doing it and

 

knowing they shouldn't. I can't imagine posting spam like that to eGroups does

 

any business for them...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 6/5/03 9:18:39 AM, mistyowl@hot1.net writes:

 

 

 

<< Mike, I belong to a couple of other groups and lurk on a couple. I am a

 

Moderator on one. They have all been hit as well. I also go to several

 

newsgroups that are on 4 different servers. They are all getting hit. It is

 

not

 

just this group not is it just Yahoo. In some cases, the Moderator may just

 

be

 

catching them and getting the messages deleted before most of the members get

 

them. We had one post at 4 AM yesterday and as luck would have it, I was up

 

early and caught it before anyone else saw it. The ones that are going around

 

now, are joining, posting then disappearing. Like Bob said, if the list was

 

moderator approved, that might cut down some, but there are still those that

 

are

 

willing to wait on approval, then post and disappear. Their addresses are

 

usually bogus, so they don't care if anyone knows they are there.

 

Schools out and the kiddies are all online playing. For 2 weeks I have been

 

getting a record number of e-mails with viruses, etc. Things should calm down

 

in a week or so.

 

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Mike & Dona,

 

I understand your concern for this epidemic and I feel the same way you do.

 

Once I get back from a little Route 66 trip this weekend (starting tonight @

 

5pm!), I'm going to look into seeing what I can do to tighten the belt a little

 

more. I may resort to automatically banning anyone with a blatant pornographic

 

e-mail address....whether they post or not. But I may look into what Bob Worley

 

mentioned yesterday. We'll see. I won't have computer access this weekend, so I

 

won't be able to get to my "remove" or "ban" buttons until Sunday night. So you

 

all behave!

 

 

 

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Sorry about the blank...I dont think I got the attachments...if you could

 

resend, I would appreciate it...tanks. Kip

 

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From: "Mike Ward" <flyboy1946@hotmail.com>

 

To: "Rudyard Welborn" <r.Welborn@worldnet.ATT.net>; "American Road"

 

<american_road@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 1:29 PM

 

Subject: Fw: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Oregon Coast Highway brochure

 

 

 

 

 

> Kip,

 

>

 

> Check out the scans in these two attachments. Let me know if any of them

 

look like the Oregon Coast Association brochure you have. I may be able to

 

help date it.

 

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> Mike

 

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> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Oregon Coast Highway brochure

 

>

 

>

 

> Hey all you highway 101 fans! I came across a brochure put out by the

 

Oregon Coast Highway Association (Oregon U.S.101) that is really

 

cool...slightly akin to Rittenhouses guide (but in brochure form)...has a

 

picture of the Oregon Coast on the front and at the top it sez "Visit the

 

Oregon Coast" and has a highway 101 logo on it...at the bottom, white on

 

red, it sez "400 miles of air conditioned beauty"...gives you a mile by mile

 

synopsis between Astoria Ore and Crescent City Calif...why I am boring you

 

with this diatribe is that I am trying to date it...the only thing that

 

clues me in is that there are phone numbers ie CR2-8584 or Crescent2-8384,

 

which I assume means mid fifties to mid 50's...if anyone has any inspiration

 

I would appreciate it...Tsingtao, Kip Welborn

 

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Got this from Romona about Jessie Hudson.Jeff

 

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From: "Lehman's @ Munger Moss" <mungermoss@jobe.net>

 

To: <rt66roadologist@attbi.com>

 

Subject: Munger Moss and Jessie Hudson

 

Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:32:47 -0500

 

 

 

Dear friends of the Road......

 

This morning early, another lady from days gone by on Route 66 passed away. She

 

would have been 90 on this coming Halloween.

 

She was born on a farm in Kentucky. Moved to St. Louis with her sister.. they

 

worked in a curtain factory. In fact, her sister was one of the early ones that

 

got a social security card, (at least that is what she told me). Jessie

 

married Pete in 1939. Pete was from Webb city, another city of the highway.

 

She never could say what year they moved to Devil's Elbow and ran the Munger

 

Moss Sandwich place and specialized in barbecue, but she did say " The day

 

they opened the Hooker cut off, business died."

 

The moved here to east of Lebanon in 1945. There was a restaurant and filling

 

station here. Restaurant was called Chicken Shanty. In the spring of 1946 they

 

opened Munger Moss Motor Court. Rooms rented for $3.00 a night. Floors were

 

cement and included a bed, chair, and dresser. No air conditioners, or tv's.

 

This lady worked hard... in the restaurant, in the motor court.... told me once

 

that at the end of the day, she had gathered up the money, gone to the house on

 

the grounds, was counting the money, and fell asleep. Next morning, a worker

 

came by to wake her and found her with all the money scattered around, and for a

 

while was scared that something had happened because it was all over the place.

 

Also told the tale of ordering meat from salesman, and then it would come in on

 

the train, and they would have to go down to the depot to pick it up. For the

 

period after the war, it was hard to obtain sugar, toilet paper, and some other

 

necessities.

 

Think too, that she had a genuine love for the road, and for Munger Moss. We

 

met Jessie and Pete in 1971. Munger Moss was 25 years old at that time. She

 

lived behind the motel all these years except for the past 2 and half years. So

 

she still claimed her part of the hill. Would daily stop in and check on what

 

was going on. The first couple of Association car tours, she was out here and

 

enjoying it.

 

Jessie and Pete spent the first summer showing us the ropes and working with us.

 

Pete was like a father to Bob. He passed away in 1974 from throat cancer.

 

Jessie was featured in a documentary film made of Route 66 back in the 80's, I

 

think... I know it was filmed in the restaurant before the big dining room was

 

converted to a lounge. This crew was from Minnesota, and I did get a copy, but

 

it is not real clear any more. She always could talk about Munger Moss and the

 

highway. She knew every trooper on the road... said once that a small fire

 

broke out at the station, called the fire department, and was told sorry, they

 

couldn't come because they were outside the city limits. That didn't stop her,

 

she called her buddy, the highway patrolman, and the fire department was here

 

very shortly thereafter, and the patrolman was here stopping traffic.

 

Pete and Jessie adopted a daughter named Kathy. She has spent each day at her

 

mother's side in the care center. Jessie ended up going there after she fell on

 

ice and broke her hip. Her sister Della passed away a year ago January. They

 

both had been in the care center. Della worked at Munger Moss as clerk for a

 

good many years, and spent couple of years with Bob and I in the motel.

 

Memorial services will be this Wednesday afternoon at 2:00 at the Homan Howe

 

Funeral Home here in Lebanon, Mo.

 

Anyone who would like to send a card to Kathy Hudson can send it to her in care

 

of 1336 E. Route 66, Lebanon, MO 65536...

 

My regards to a grand lady......... Rest in Peace.

 

Ramona

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Larry,

 

Be sure to tell Ivan at the Wigwam Village that Mike & Judy from the Catsup

 

Bottle say "Hello!" ... and if you are at all a baseball fan, you must visit

 

the Louisville Slugger Museum... (FYI: the same company that built the Catsup

 

Bottle, Caldwell Tanks of Louisville, KY, also built the giant baseball bat at

 

the museum and also the Brown-Foreman bourbon bottle water tower in Louisville.)

 

Have a safe trip!

 

Mike

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 8/5/03 6:58:24 AM, alf@mia.net writes:

 

 

 

<< This Friday, August 8th, we will be leaving Kansas City for Cave City,

 

KY. We will be taking US 50 to near Pacific, MO. Would like a

 

recommendation of a good place to spend the night on Route 66 around

 

Pacific/Eureka area.

 

 

 

On Saturday, we will connect with US 61 to Cape Girardeau. From there we

 

will take state road's to connect with US 51. Will also travel on part of

 

US 62, 68 and finally on the Dixie Highway to Cave City. For our return

 

leg, we will continue on US 31 to Louisville returning to US 50 West via US

 

150. We will be staying in the Cave City area Sunday and visiting Mammoth

 

Cave National Park. Have a reservation at the Wigwam Motel for Sunday

 

evening.

 

 

 

Larry >>

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This Friday, August 8th, we will be leaving Kansas City for Cave City,

 

KY. We will be taking US 50 to near Pacific, MO. Would like a

 

recommendation of a good place to spend the night on Route 66 around

 

Pacific/Eureka area.

 

 

 

On Saturday, we will connect with US 61 to Cape Girardeau. From there we

 

will take state road's to connect with US 51. Will also travel on part of

 

US 62, 68 and finally on the Dixie Highway to Cave City. For our return

 

leg, we will continue on US 31 to Louisville returning to US 50 West via US

 

150. We will be staying in the Cave City area Sunday and visiting Mammoth

 

Cave National Park. Have a reservation at the Wigwam Motel for Sunday evening.

 

 

 

Larry

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We've never stayed at the Gardenway either but Tombstone, Duck,

 

Jackrabbit, and Red Hare spent their first (and last) night there a

 

couple of years ago prior to the Halloween Cruise. Said they would

 

not recommend the place. A really first-class place to stay in that

 

area is the Six Flags Ramada Inn, a former dairy barn with part of

 

the original interior walls preserved. Other good stops in the area

 

include the Meramec Caverns Motel just south of Stanton and the

 

Budget in St. Clair.

 

 

 

Still Cruisin',

 

Bliss

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Rudyard Welborn"

 

<r.Welborn@w...> wrote:

 

Across the road is the Gardenway; it is an old

 

> 66 hotel, but don't know what the accomodations are like. >

 

 

 

 

 

From: "Larry Kinsey" <alf@m...>

 

> To: <>; <american_road@yahoogroups.com>

 

> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:57 AM

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Trip this coming weekend.

 

>

 

>

 

> > This Friday, August 8th, we will be leaving Kansas City for Cave

 

City,

 

> > KY. We will be taking US 50 to near Pacific, MO. Would like a

 

> > recommendation of a good place to spend the night on Route 66

 

around

 

> > Pacific/Eureka area.

 

> >

 

> > On Saturday, we will connect with US 61 to Cape Girardeau. From

 

there we

 

> > will take state road's to connect with US 51. Will also travel

 

on part of

 

> > US 62, 68 and finally on the Dixie Highway to Cave City. For our

 

return

 

> > leg, we will continue on US 31 to Louisville returning to US 50

 

West via

 

> US

 

> > 150. We will be staying in the Cave City area Sunday and

 

visiting Mammoth

 

> > Cave National Park. Have a reservation at the Wigwam Motel for

 

Sunday

 

> evening.

 

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We stayed at the Western Diamond Inn about 7 years ago and it was

 

nice then and the Tri State Truck Stop has a very good breakfast.

 

Have a very good and safe trip. I'm so jealous. I wish I could get

 

away now.

 

 

 

Allen

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My wife & I are leaving early Thursday for a 1 1/2 week road trip, driving from

 

Chicagoland to Denver via the LHA (including the rejected route from Big

 

Springs, Nebraska down to Denver). Our return will be via the Pikes Peak Ocean

 

to Ocean Highway corridor (basically U.S. 36) from Colorado Springs back to

 

Central Illinois, then home. I've marked (guessed) the old PPOO alignment on the

 

various Delorme state maps, based on a 1926 PPOO guide, and will drive as much

 

of it as time (& my wife) will allow. (She already told me no dirt roads.)

 

 

 

Does anyone know of any "must see" roadie locations along the PPOO? We've driven

 

the LHA

 

before but have not found huge amounts of information on the PPOO.

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

Ted

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We just returned from Wigwam Village yesterday. It really is a great place

 

and Ivan the owner is a friendly guy. Our kids adored the sunken playground

 

area in the center. Also saw the big baseball bat at Louisville Slugger and

 

the goose in Hazard. We made the trip to do research for "Roadside Giants,"

 

a book for older kids about larger-than-life signs and buildings. Hope it

 

can be one more way to interest kids in history, especially of roads and

 

travel. Also filmed a brief segment there for a roadside-themed PBS show

 

next summer.

 

 

 

There are some neat old businesses around Cave City, including motels with

 

working neon along US 31W. Guntown Mountain amusement park sounded fun but

 

was a disappointment, pretty run down. Also took US 25 (also Dixie Hwy), 23

 

("Country Music Highway"), 60, and 50 on the way back to Pittsburgh.

 

 

 

A controversial name change we came across was the Daniel Boone Parkway - it

 

was renamed for Congressman Hal Rogers in June when tolls were removed.

 

Boone descendants aren't too happy. A site that explains it is

 

http://www.kentuckyroads.com which also has a lot of road photos,

 

specifically here http://www.kentuckyroads.com/news/430.html

 

 

 

Brian Butko

 

 

 

 

 

From: Larry Kinsey <alf@mia.net>

 

Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 06:57:17 -0500

 

To: ,american_road@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Trip this coming weekend.

 

 

 

On Saturday, we will connect with US 61 to Cape Girardeau. From there we

 

will take state road's to connect with US 51. Will also travel on part of

 

US 62, 68 and finally on the Dixie Highway to Cave City. For our return

 

leg, we will continue on US 31 to Louisville returning to US 50 West via US

 

150. We will be staying in the Cave City area Sunday and visiting Mammoth

 

Cave National Park. Have a reservation at the Wigwam Motel for Sunday

 

evening.

 

 

 

Larry

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I would really like to hear some strories and see some photos when

 

you return. I've really got the road trip itch and you guys can help

 

ease the discomfort a bit. (Either that or make it worse) Good luck

 

and happy trails.

 

 

 

Allen

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I'll get my typing finger warmed up! Ted

 

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Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Ted and Larry

 

 

 

 

 

I would really like to hear some strories and see some photos when

 

you return. I've really got the road trip itch and you guys can help

 

ease the discomfort a bit. (Either that or make it worse) Good luck

 

and happy trails.

 

 

 

Allen

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

I have never stayed there, but just west of Pacific is the Best Western

 

Diamond Inn, which looks nice enuf from the highway...it is right on U.S. 66

 

(if you are taking 50 you will go right by it either on the interstate--now

 

U.S. 50, or on old 66/50). Across the road is the Gardenway; it is an old

 

66 hotel, but don't know what the accomodations are like. About 2 miles SW

 

of there on old 66 is the Tri County Truck Stop, which is about as good a

 

breakfast nook as you will find on the highway...if you are looking for a

 

food/drink stop on 61...about 10 miles so of Cape there is a town called New

 

Hamburg (which is on a farm to market road a mile off 61.) In New Hamburg is

 

a place called Schindlers which apparently serve the best bologna burgers in

 

the world...cute little town/neat little place...have a great trip!

 

Tsingtao. Kip

 

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> This Friday, August 8th, we will be leaving Kansas City for Cave City,

 

> KY. We will be taking US 50 to near Pacific, MO. Would like a

 

> recommendation of a good place to spend the night on Route 66 around

 

> Pacific/Eureka area.

 

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> On Saturday, we will connect with US 61 to Cape Girardeau. From there we

 

> will take state road's to connect with US 51. Will also travel on part of

 

> US 62, 68 and finally on the Dixie Highway to Cave City. For our return

 

> leg, we will continue on US 31 to Louisville returning to US 50 West via

 

US

 

> 150. We will be staying in the Cave City area Sunday and visiting Mammoth

 

> Cave National Park. Have a reservation at the Wigwam Motel for Sunday

 

evening.

 

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Guest Russell S. Rein

Hey Ted,

 

 

 

I would be very interested in any details of your PPOO trip. I collect

 

PPOO ephemera, but never drove it, or took the time out to map

 

the old alignment details.

 

 

 

I took a similar trip a few years back - I drove US 24 from SE Michigan

 

to Manitou Springs to go to the Society for Commercial Archeology

 

National Conference in Manitou Springs. The Colorado / Manitou

 

Springs area is the ultimate tourist trap - be sure to take the cog train

 

up Pikes Peak (don't drive it first as funny things can happen at 14,000+

 

feet), Garden of the Gods, Santa's Village, and perhaps 60 or more

 

vintage cabin camps and motels lovingly maintained by their new Polish

 

and Russian emigre owners. The conference was headquarted at the

 

Rainbow Lodge. I couldn't get a room there as it was booked solid, so

 

I stayed a few places down at the formerly named Okla-Tex Court - the

 

first place in the area to have indoor plumbing. Make sure you drive the

 

 

 

whole way E - W through towns on Old 24 - Colorado Ave. and N - S

 

on Old 85 - Nevada Ave. and bring lots of film.

 

 

 

If you are taking US 24 back part ways be sure to stop at the Genoa

 

Tower in Genoa, CO - a great old tourist trap tower - see six states!

 

http://ican.editthispage.com/genoatower/

 

It used to front right on US 24 but it is long gone and now backs on

 

I-70.

 

 

 

Also, before I forget, when you leave Big Springs, NE the first town

 

into CO is Julesburg. The barber in town is located in the old Ford

 

Garage - which he has turned into a mini-museum with cars, Oregon

 

Trail, Lincoln Highway and Julesburg memorabilia. He's only open

 

a few days a week when he cuts hair - ask anybody on the street

 

where it's at.

 

 

 

Hit that road!

 

 

 

yer pal,

 

 

 

slim

 

 

 

 

 

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writes:

 

> My wife & I are leaving early Thursday for a 1 1/2 week road trip,

 

> driving from Chicagoland to Denver via the LHA (including the

 

> rejected route from Big Springs, Nebraska down to Denver). Our

 

> return will be via the Pikes Peak Ocean to Ocean Highway corridor

 

> (basically U.S. 36) from Colorado Springs back to Central Illinois,

 

> then home. I've marked (guessed) the old PPOO alignment on the

 

> various Delorme state maps, based on a 1926 PPOO guide, and will

 

> drive as much of it as time (& my wife) will allow. (She already

 

> told me no dirt roads.)

 

>

 

> Does anyone know of any "must see" roadie locations along the PPOO?

 

> We've driven the LHA

 

> before but have not found huge amounts of information on the PPOO.

 

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Guest Debra Hodkin

Announcing the 2nd Annual

 

 

 

MISS ROUTE 66 PAGEANT

 

A Fun Event Open to All Ages from Everywhere

 

Saturday, September 6, 2003

 

Barstow Mall on East Main Street (Route 66)

 

Begins at 9 a.m. for Petite - Little Categories

 

Until final Teen - Senior on stage at 2 p.m.

 

 

 

Walk-ins are welcome to register the same day.

 

For more information,

 

www.barstow66museum.itgo.com or

 

www.geocites.com/imperial_image

 

760-257-3435

 

 

 

FREE TO ATTEND Come by if in the area!

 

 

 

The Pageant is in support of the Route 66 Mother Road Museum

 

Located in the Historic Harvey House

 

681 N. First Ave., Barstow, CA 92311

 

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Guest Denny Gibson

and, as many of you know, they are without telephones. John has graciously

 

allowed me to connect via the office phone to send this but pictures of the

 

day's trip along Ken's suggested route (Ken, I owe you a very tall cold one.

 

Excellent drive.) will have to wait until tomorrow.

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Guest brownwho63

Another great day on the road! Navigator and I cruised out to Shady

 

Jack's in Villa Ridge this morning and dropped off a set of Caddy

 

wheel covers, a leather coat, and a Levi jacket complete with a Busch

 

logo and a KSHE Real Rock Radio patch for his March of Dimes auction

 

next weekend. Left Jack's and headed to Alton and up the river road

 

to Grafton and the Loading Dock. Live music and a food line about a

 

mile long. Had a few brews and listened to the band before heading

 

back south to Piasa and the biker bar (forget the name) there. There

 

must have been hundreds of bikes there, as well as two clubs selling

 

stuff -- the Outlaws from Peoria and the Hell's Angels

 

from "Hellinois." Ain't life grand?

 

 

 

Still Cruisin',

 

Bliss

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Guest Shellee Graham

Hey kids,

 

 

 

The Kansas City Public Library (who is hosting my exhibit Oct.19 - Dec.7,

 

2003) wants the addresses of people who want a personal invitation to the

 

exhibit. If you want one, let me know -- esp. those of you who may actually

 

be going to the exhibit. hehe.

 

 

 

Of course, I'll send invitations to my mother in West Des Moines, Iowa and

 

my grandmother is Johnston, Iowa -- and a few others, but the rest of you

 

are on your own... :) Some of you have already expressed interest in

 

attending the show,who are making the trip OR live in the area (Pat Bremer's

 

relatives, Jim Seelen, my pal Janet Brodsky)-- please do forward those

 

addresses to me and I'll make sure the library folks get them.

 

 

 

Thankya and best regards,

 

 

 

Shellee Gee

 

 

 

--

 

Shellee Graham

 

 

 

http://www.smithkramer.com/route66.html (my photo exhibit)

 

http://www.webshots.com/g/32/40797-sh.html (my photos on webshots.com)

 

http://home.earthlink.net/~shellee66/sg.html (shell's books)

 

http://www.coralcourt.com (all about ccm)

 

http://www.coolstockimages.com/public/imag...=-3&query=8

 

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Shellee send one to me Fred Zander 2838 SW Hillcrest Rd. Topeka,ks 66614. See u

 

there.

 

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Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 6:19 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Shellee's touring exhibit "RETURN TO ROUTE 66"

 

 

 

 

 

Hey kids,

 

 

 

The Kansas City Public Library (who is hosting my exhibit Oct.19 - Dec.7,

 

2003) wants the addresses of people who want a personal invitation to the

 

exhibit. If you want one, let me know -- esp. those of you who may actually

 

be going to the exhibit. hehe.

 

 

 

Of course, I'll send invitations to my mother in West Des Moines, Iowa and

 

my grandmother is Johnston, Iowa -- and a few others, but the rest of you

 

are on your own... :) Some of you have already expressed interest in

 

attending the show,who are making the trip OR live in the area (Pat Bremer's

 

relatives, Jim Seelen, my pal Janet Brodsky)-- please do forward those

 

addresses to me and I'll make sure the library folks get them.

 

 

 

Thankya and best regards,

 

 

 

Shellee Gee

 

 

 

--

 

Shellee Graham

 

 

 

http://www.smithkramer.com/route66.html (my photo exhibit)

 

http://www.webshots.com/g/32/40797-sh.html (my photos on webshots.com)

 

http://home.earthlink.net/~shellee66/sg.html (shell's books)

 

http://www.coralcourt.com (all about ccm)

 

http://www.coolstockimages.com/public/imag...=-3&query=8

 

(my stock photo company)

 

http://homepage.mac.com/dougoutg/PhotoAlbum1.html (more of my photos)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest rwarn17588

I called Debbie Sheals at the state historical office today. In the

 

next few days, her office is going to do an assessment of the Boots

 

Motel's viability for the National Register of Historic Places, then

 

will pass along that data to the current or future owners of the Boots.

 

 

 

However, she needs something I don't have. This is where a few members

 

of the list might contribute. Debbie needs pictures of the Boots Motel

 

from multiple angles with maybe a few closeups of the eaves and other

 

details, etc. If you have extra copies of the Boots Motel lying

 

around, here's where to mail them:

 

 

 

Debbie Sheals

 

406 W. Broadway

 

Columbia, MO 65203

 

 

 

I and other Route 66ers across this globe will thank you.

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

 

Ron Warnick

 

www.friendsofthemotherroad.org

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Hi Chet!

 

 

 

Be sure to post or email me privately when you're heading this way again! We'll

 

have to meet up in Oatman for some brewski's, maybe do a little exploring

 

near/around Cool Springs! I love that stuff! I can point out where on the 4th

 

of July last year a car went off the cliff (driver was drinking of course) where

 

Jackie (Oatman resident and faithful 66er) and I drove out to after to see the

 

damage. The car was still way down there attempting to be towed out by a long

 

cable cord, all 4 tires bent under the belly of the car like a MatchBox toy,

 

with the car completely flipped upside down. I still am amazed the guy lived.

 

Too bad Mr. Turm-m-m-m-el couldn't join us! Although he'll be out here soon

 

enough, I'm sure! I live in Bullhead City (13 miles away) so it's just down the

 

road for me. I've been wanting to get to the Oatman Hotel to have a few

 

spirits, because I haven't been in there in a while. We usually go to Judy's

 

for that, but nothing beats that "Oatie" atmosphere at the

 

Hotel.

 

 

 

Sounds kinda cheesy.....but I've always wanted to take that stretch of road late

 

at night, thought it would be really cool. Well we finally did one night a few

 

months back coming back from Kingman......with the scenery (especially in the

 

moonlight) and desolation, you'd think you were on Mars. Not passing one car,

 

not coming across any form of civilization! Even Oatman late at night looks

 

deserted, when in reality everyone is just up behind the Main Street sleeping in

 

their homes. Such a beautiful and unique place......my favorite place to be.

 

(Aside from the newly discovered Havasu Falls)

 

 

 

Not to mention, we went up to Sitgreaves Pass a few months back at 2:00 a.m. to

 

catch one of the metor showers, and it was a tad cloudy, but it was still

 

awesome. Then we heard some heavy rustling up on the hill at Sitgreaves and it

 

scared the crap out of me, so we took off pretty quickly. I was a little

 

disappointed that I get so creeped out up there in those Black Mountains, but

 

geez, if you ever wanted to get away with the "perfect crime", and never to be

 

heard of or found again........those parts of the woods would be the absolute

 

perfect spot! It was probably just a little burro, but at 2:00 in the morning,

 

I wasn't taking any chances. Too many scary movies as a kid I guess.

 

 

 

Hope to see you on the road (or in Oatman!)

 

 

 

Nicole

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Mention of activity east of Oatman caught my attention and a search

 

for Cool Spring Camp turned up some pictures of a place that I'm

 

somewhat familiar with but didn't even suspect had a name. In 1999,

 

it was my indecision about stopping at this very building that was

 

partly the cause of what I've called "falling into a canyon". I had

 

to finish the west bound trip in a rental and without actually

 

getting to Oatman. This past June I stopped (carefully!) and realized

 

that someone had been quite busy even though no one was there. I left

 

a note and hoped I might hear something about the reconstruction.

 

Your message was the first I've heard that work continues and the

 

having a name lead me to a little history about the place. Now I'll

 

know to keep an eye out for news of Cool Spring Camp.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

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> Hi all-

 

>

 

> Thought I'd give an update on Cool Springs Camp east of Oatman on

 

> Route 66. Wow that building is coming along nicely!! The drinks

 

and

 

> such that are supposed to be sold there are still not up, but the

 

> process is definitely coming along. I talked to a handyman who was

 

> there the day we stopped by. They're having problems getting

 

> electricity there, and he blames in on BLM giving them problems,

 

but

 

> then I talked to trusty Elaine who told me complete opposite and

 

that

 

> the BLM has nothing to do with that type of thing, or with what is

 

> supposedly going on with the electricity situation at Cool

 

Springs.

 

> This man also told me that he often camps out in a tent across the

 

> street with his gun by his side in case vandals to try to do

 

anything

 

> to the building....so I think it would be in my best judgement to

 

> take Elaine's words a little more seriously than his! ha ha! Nice

 

> guy, but whew.....

 

>

 

> Next time you're hitting Route 66 in Arizona, be sure to check out

 

> Cool Springs Camp.....what a great place that has come back to

 

life,

 

> and of course in one of the most awesome geographical locations (in

 

> my opinion)on the road!

 

>

 

> Nicole

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Guest drivewdave@aol.com

Jennifer made up a wonderful list of various ways that

 

we enjoy our American Roads. Everything on that list

 

is something I (dave, again) enjoy and endorse.

 

 

 

she also wrote:

 

 

 

*Everyone's* stories, including yours, about their road trips are

 

 

 

welcome, whether they are eloquently written, or in travelogue

 

 

 

format, or whatever. If you don't like talk about the roadside,

 

 

 

diners or motels, that's OK. No list or discussion is going to appeal

 

 

 

to everyone, and you can choose to read only certain posts which are

 

 

 

of interest to you. However, that doesn't mean that people shouldn't

 

 

 

post about what they enjoy about road trips and I don't want any

 

 

 

posts to be discouraged.

 

 

 

well said, we don't want any posts to be discouraged

 

 

 

okay here's the deal from where I (dave) see it...

 

 

 

I love the roadside as much or more as any of you

 

but for me the idea is to GO and the roadside is the

 

part of the trip where you pull over and stop for awhile,

 

sure we need nutrition and gas and proper rest but LETS GO!!!

 

 

 

Example:

 

 

 

Former US 99 between FIfe and Federal Way, the obvious

 

landmark is the Daffodil Motel neon sign, kind of a floral

 

version of the Holiday Inn sign.

 

 

 

You can view the sign online via posts and you can

 

buy a book that has a close-up of the sign and I can

 

tell you a juicy story about the Daffodil Motel

 

 

 

BUT

 

 

 

Where do we read about what it is like to drive

 

down Old 99 in the night, down a long tangent

 

towards a radius and a vertical curve over

 

the county line watching the Daffodil Motel sign

 

approach and pass by, another mystery in the dark?

 

 

 

What I am suggesting is to get off of your

 

(semi-) collective roadside butts and DRIVE....

 

 

 

down in flames again, dave

 

 

 

PS there is nothing like seeing a bunch of lit-up semis going

 

the other way on I-5 in the night, around the big curve not

 

far from the Daffodil Motel...

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