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Guest Jennifer

I sacrificed my lunch hour to provide everyone with a sneak peek at

 

some of the 350+ photographs I took this weekend....here are 10 from

 

the Munger Moss celebration Saturday night. Since I'm not home, I

 

don't have access to my website program, so I patched together a very

 

basic page with links. Stay tuned as I put up more throughout the

 

week.

 

 

 

It was great seeing everyone there...it was a wonderful time and great

 

to celebrate a fantastic milestone with Bob and Ramona!! *HUGS* to

 

all!

 

 

 

http://www.roadtripmemories.com/trips/mungermossanv.htm

 

 

 

Jennifer Bremer

 

Speedway, Indiana

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Guest Hank Hallmark

FYI Re: Albert Okura:

 

 

 

The Board of Supervisors (Bill Postmus) gave Abert Okura a resolution commending

 

him for his Amboy effort and the county museum is going to be offering their

 

assistance to him.

 

 

 

Hank Hallmark

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Bakerhab@aol.com

 

To: thehallmarks@earthlink.net

 

Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:27 PM

 

Subject: Barstow Route 66 Mother Road Museum presents the 5th

 

AnniversaryCelebration

 

 

 

 

 

The Juan Pollo "Caravan" will be cruising all the way from San Bernardino to

 

Main Street about 10:30 before coming over to the Museum to serve lunch, at

 

$5.00 per plate. All proceeds from the lunch will go to the museum. Meet the

 

owner, of the Juan Pollo Restaurants, Albert Okura, who will be opening a Juan

 

Pollo Restaurant on Main St. & Barstow Rd., where Arby's was located. Albert is

 

a Route 66 supporter and recently purchased the town of Amboy. Hear about his

 

plans for Amboy's restoration.

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Guest Russell S. Rein

One of these days I want to drive the whole US 62 - it stairsteps from

 

Niagara Falls to El Paso - running with each E-W & N-S highway as

 

it goes. The route is really crazy - does anyone know how it got

 

designated? I think of it as the poor man's US 66. And - I guess

 

I can drive home on US 54 - El Paso to Chicago.

 

 

 

ypsi-slim

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Does anyone have a recommendation for a good GPS unit for route mapping?

 

Something less than $400, please.

 

 

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

JWM

 

Drivetheost.com

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Guest John Wm. Ridge

If you have a laptop computer, use the Delorme $99 GPS. I have used it for

 

years with great satisfaction.

 

 

 

John Ridge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At 6/17/2005, you wrote:

 

 

 

>Does anyone have a recommendation for a good GPS unit for route mapping?

 

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How true! Tsingtao, Kip

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: "brownwho63" <wefly66@earthlink.net>

 

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 8:19 AM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Reinventing Route 66

 

 

 

 

 

> Missouri '66 wouldn't be nearly as confusing if we could only *keep*

 

> the historic signs in place. Once stolen (and that's happening at an

 

> alarming rate) it takes MoDot years to replace them, if ever. They

 

> say that they do a "sweep" every three or four years to determine

 

> where signs need to be replaced but I can't believe that's a priority

 

> for them. For example, there are missing signs on 100, Manchester

 

> Road in Des Peres (westbound lanes), County AH east crossover

 

> (eastbound lane - stolen several years ago), County AH crossover

 

> (westbound), Stanton crossover (both east and westbound), and, I'm

 

> certain, more than I can currently recall. The only signs remaining

 

> at these sites are the directional arrows originally installed with

 

> the brown and white signs. We noticed recently, though, that some

 

> enterprising souls placed two separate Historic Route 66 stickers on

 

> the arrow just east of St. Clair. I suppose that some fool will

 

> steal that too. Have we reached the point where the shield just

 

> needs to painted on the road surface like we've seen in KS?

 

> Sigh....Bliss

 

>

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Rudyard Welborn"

 

> <r.Welborn@w...> wrote:

 

> > There is no doubt that there needs to be more "historic route" 66

 

> signs all

 

> > up and down the route; in parts of Missouri and OK, you need to

 

> have a book

 

> > (Jim Ross for OK, Skip Curtis for MO) to find your way. Maps are

 

> > problematic because most I have seen are not detailed enough to

 

> show you

 

> > where all the twists and turns are, much less the old alignments

 

> and patches

 

> > of old roadbed you find along the way...What Illinois has done to

 

> mark the

 

> > route should be the model for all the states...know that is not

 

> cheap and

 

> > that the states along the route have other priorities but that's my

 

> > dream...I don't support any kind of recertification or restatement

 

> of Route

 

> > 66. Tsingtao, Kip

 

> > ----- Original Message -----

 

> > From: "rwarn17588" <rwarn17588@y...>

 

> > To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

> > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 3:41 AM

 

> > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Reinventing Route 66

 

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> > > > Jim,

 

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> > > > Fred is supporting the signage of US66 and/or possibly Historic

 

> > > Route

 

> > > > 66, uniformly for the entire route. This promotion of awareness

 

> > > does

 

> > > > not necessarily need to be a campaign to reinstate the route as

 

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> > > > official US highway. Of course as you've mentioned, the latter

 

> > > would

 

> > > > certainly create destruction by the process of upgrading the

 

> > > roadbed

 

> > > > to current highway standards.

 

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> > > Yes, Landrunner, except that Fred's Web site states the

 

> unequivocal

 

> > > goal of reinstating U.S. 66, which includes the interstates. The

 

> Web

 

> > > site is called Route 66 Re-commissioning Initiative. Fred may say

 

> > > one thing, but his site and actions say another.

 

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Guest BringBackRoute66.com

Group,

 

 

 

Does Nevada still use the "California" type cut-out shield? Does anybody

 

know? Ken Turmel took this beautiful shot of U.S. 6/50 shields just east of

 

Ely, Nevada:

 

 

 

http://www.postmarkart.com/images/friends/...0-eastofEly.jpg

 

 

 

He said it's not actually on the old Lincoln Highway but just off it. I got

 

to wondering if there are other states besides California that still employ

 

this kind of marker. Could it be that Nevada used to and just hasn't taken

 

them all down yet? But they do look rather new. Does anybody know for sure?

 

 

 

I was on a road trip with my family in 1972 or '73, I can't remember for

 

sure. We had gone to Lake Tahoe from Phoenix and returned through Nevada.

 

I distinctly remember that at that time Nevada was employing *THREE*

 

different U.S. shields. They used the California type on the Interstates

 

(Where U.S. 40 or 91 ran concurrent at that time), smaller cut-outs with the

 

state name on top for roadside reassurance markers on two-lane highways and

 

the larger MUTCD (current) style at major junctions and interchanges.

 

 

 

Fred M. Cain,

 

U.S. Route 66 Re-commissioning Initiative

 

http://www.bringbackroute66.com

 

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Here is a wonderful story recapping Brian McKay's Route 66 odyssey. It is

 

written by Kathleen Masser, a reporter with the Santa Monica Mirror, who waited

 

patiently all day in Santa Monica, for Brian and his escorts to arrive at the

 

pier. I was in phone contact with her as we made our slow progress across Los

 

Angeles County and was thrilled to finally meet her at the end of the journey

 

party.

 

 

 

Helen Baker

 

 

 

 

 

Published: July 21, 2004

 

 

 

 

 

Riding the Mother Roadaˆ¦One More Time

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kathleen Herd Masser

 

Mirror contributing writer

 

 

 

In The Grapes of Wrath, author John Steinbeck christened Route 66 the

 

Mother Road, a path of hopes and dreams to those whose lives were thrown into

 

disarray by the Great Depression. Brian McKay calls it aˆ?a series of events

 

that

 

occur between a town, the people and the traveler.aˆ?

 

McKay is the traveler. On Sunday, July 11, he pulled his 1930 Nash 450

 

sedan onto the Santa Monica Pier, the final stop in a 49-day trek that reenacted

 

the pilgrimage undertaken by hundreds of thousands of families hoping to

 

escape the bonds of poverty.

 

The journey, he says, was a tribute to the Great Depression and its

 

victims, adding, aˆ?I was interested in the role of the car in the Depression. I

 

have

 

a 1930 Nash roadster that Iaˆ™ve had since I was a teenager. I bought this as a

 

parts car. Itaˆ™s from Saskatchewan, the Canadian equivalent of Oklahoma.aˆ? A

 

retired building contractor, McKay was born in Alberta and lives on Vancouver

 

Island in British Columbia.

 

Instead of restoring the car to showroom condition, McKay went for aˆ“ and

 

achieved aˆ“ a vintage Dust Bowl appearance. The hot rod became the parts car.

 

Using a Dorothea Lange photo as his guide, he combed flea markets and antique

 

sales to find essential accessories: a thin mattress, a cast iron skillet, a

 

banjo, a gas lantern, and a faded red wagon to represent the single toy that

 

parents permitted their children to bring along.

 

McKay shipped the Nash to Chicago and hopped a train (unlike many

 

Depression-era travelers, he paid for his ticket). Reunited with his car, on May

 

25th

 

he set out.

 

Life on the road was not much easier for McKay than it was for migrants in

 

the aˆ?30s. He shunned fast food joints and carried no cell phone. His one

 

concession to technology was a tape recorder that he used it to chronicle his

 

adventure and listen to music, mostly tunes by Woody Guthrie and Jimmy Rodgers.

 

At night, he camped on the ground beneath a canvas tarp secured to the

 

roof of the car. If it rained, he slept in the cramped front seat. On a few

 

nights, he allowed himself a bed in a modest motel. The moms and pops of Route

 

66aˆ™s

 

fabled roadside diners treated him to an occasional meal. When the rooftop

 

mattress got wet, he refused to cover it in plastic, because that wasnaˆ™t an

 

option in 1937.

 

McKay kept in touch with friends, fans and his wife, Marie, using pay

 

phones and occasional e-mails sent from libraries along the way. The Nash Car

 

Club

 

of America added a aˆ?Whereaˆ™s Brian?aˆ? link to its website, on which members

 

posted sightings.

 

In a message sent from Tucumcari, McKay wrote, aˆ?I had left Amarillo late

 

in the day and was heading west. I stopped to watch a storm building. It was

 

soon evident to be a large one indeed. It covered 180 degrees of the sky and

 

winds were up to 80 mph. The wind forced me to seek a safer location. I moved

 

about a block away next to a hospital and put her rear to the storm as a horse

 

in

 

a field would do.

 

aˆ?As things worsened, I realized the storm was not moving on but was

 

rotating overhead in a counter-clockwise rotation. Humidity was up and my

 

imagination said this thing was about to spawn a tornado. The rain started then

 

heavily,

 

the sirens started to go off and hail was beginning to fall. I grabbed my box

 

from on top of the roof and sat in the front seat. I grabbed two blankets and

 

put them over my head. Hail went from pea size to marble size and the noise

 

was deafening . . . Poor old girl, getting hit like that. Then a series of

 

tremendous impacts. I looked out and saw hail the size of a tennis ball . . .

 

striking us . . . . This carried on for what seemed like an eternity . . . and

 

soon everything was in water several inches deep or more. That ditch I was going

 

to lay in if a funnel had formed was now two feet in water.aˆ?

 

The windows held, but both headlamps were destroyed and there were

 

fist-sized dents in the Nashaˆ™s well-rusted body.

 

The desert sun was no more hospitable than the hailstorm. The wheels on

 

the car have wooden rims and spokes, and high temperatures caused the wood to

 

shrink. To tighten them up again, McKay aˆ“ with a hand from volunteers aˆ“

 

pushed

 

the car down a boat ramp into the Colorado River to soak the wheels.

 

Route 66 meanders 2,448 miles from downtown Chicago, Illinois, through

 

Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and into California.

 

McKay met aˆ?a lot of special peopleaˆ? on the road. There was the

 

91-year-old rancher in Tucumcari, a aˆ?bony old weathered characteraˆ? who is

 

possibly a

 

descendant of Juan Francisco de Bodega E. Quadra, who discovered Vancouver

 

Island . . . the musician in Pitfield, Illinois, who tuned McKayaˆ™s banjo, then

 

used

 

it to perform with her bluegrass band . . . three squad carsaˆ™ worth of

 

policemen who came at him with guns drawn when he inadvertently pulled into a

 

driveway on the grounds of an Illinois nuclear power plant.

 

In all, McKay aˆ?logged just under 4,500 miles,aˆ? nearly double the span of

 

Route 66, as he indulged in detours that included Woody Guthrieaˆ™s Oklahoma

 

home, Mark Twainaˆ™s Hannibal, Missouri, birthplace, and a ramble through the

 

Ozarks.

 

Many Dust Bowl migrants never reached California; they simply settled

 

wherever their cars broke down. For a few hours on Sunday, it appeared McKay

 

would

 

succumb to the same fate.

 

aˆ?It was 9:30 in the morning,aˆ? McKay recalls. aˆ?The car wouldnaˆ™t run.

 

She

 

wasnaˆ™t going anywhere. After 2,400 miles, on the last day, not to be able to

 

complete the trip . . .aˆ? He pauses, then continues, aˆ?She ran so well all the

 

way from Chicago. It would be just unacceptable not to make it.aˆ?

 

Helen Baker confirms McKayaˆ™s anxiety. Baker is secretary of the California

 

Route 66 Preservation Foundation and rode in the Nash caravan that escorted

 

McKay to the Pier from Rancho Cucamonga.

 

aˆ?We offered him lunch,aˆ? she says, aˆ?but he wouldnaˆ™t eat. He said

 

heaˆ™d

 

lost his appetite.aˆ?

 

With some unorthodox help from Lloyd Hardy, the owner of a 1954 Nash

 

Metro, the problem (the carburetor float) was fixed. And in Dust Bowl era

 

tradition, McKay and his new companions shared a picnic lunch on the side of the

 

road.

 

McKayaˆ™s emotions were close to the surface as he rolled down the ramped

 

drive of the Pier. There was obvious gratification at having completed his

 

journey, but there was also the reality aˆ“ after weeks of challenging yet

 

peaceful

 

solitude aˆ“ of running smack into the 21st century.

 

Though the Nash easily reaches 35 miles per hour, McKay says, aˆ?I donaˆ™t

 

think I got above 23 coming through Los Angeles. The worst traffic, hands down,

 

was in Santa Monica.aˆ?

 

Just after sundown, McKay and his Nash headed south, to his sisteraˆ™s home

 

in Seal Beach. Heaˆ™ll take the train home and leave the car behind, but hopes

 

to return in September to take part in the Route 66 Rendezvous in San

 

Bernadino.

 

McKay displays a rare understanding of the hardships of the Dust Bowl age

 

and a fierce appreciation for the spirit of the migrants. aˆ?It was,aˆ? he says,

 

aˆ?

 

an important moment in peoplesaˆ™ lives.aˆ?

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We are now in the heart of summer. Time to hit the road if you can

 

afford the gas. Of course, a great thing to have going down that

 

road are some really fine tunes. We have discussed "Road" songs,

 

but what about "Summer" songs. You know, the ones that put you in

 

the mood or bring back those special memories.

 

 

 

Bob Stroud, the host of the Drive's Rock and Roll Roots show on

 

Sundays from 7 AM to 10 AM, had his annual Root Salute to Summer.

 

This is heard on the internet and at 96.9 and 97.1 FM in Chicago.

 

This is a good list to start your trip.

 

 

 

7 AM

 

In the Summertime- Mungo Jerry

 

Do It Again- Beach Boys

 

Summer Side of Life- Gordon Lightfoot

 

Grazing in the Grass- Hugh Masakela

 

Rain on the Roof- Lovin' Spoonful

 

Bus Stop- Hollies

 

Dancing in the Street- Martha & the Vandellas

 

I Live for the Sun- Sunrays

 

Hot Fun in the Summertime- Sly & the Family Stone

 

Lazy Day- Spanky & Our Gang

 

Hot Summer Day- It's a Beautiful Day

 

Summertime Blues- Eddie Cochran

 

Good Day Sunshine- Beatles

 

Hot as Sun- Paul McCartney

 

Miserlou- Dick Dale & His Del-Tones

 

California Sun- Rivieras

 

 

 

8 AM

 

Spill the Wine- Eric Burdon & War

 

One Summer Dream- ELO

 

Sunny Afternoon- Kinks

 

Margaritaville- Jimmy Buffett

 

Sidewalk Surfin'- Jan & Dean

 

Amusement Parks USA- Beach Boys

 

School's Out- Alice Cooper

 

You Took the Words Right Out of My Mouth (Hot Summer Night) Meatloaf

 

Summer in the City- Lovin' Spoonful

 

Summer Sun- Jamestown Massacre

 

A Summer Song- Chad & Jeremy

 

Summer Rain- Johnny Rivers

 

Sunny Days- Lighthouse

 

 

 

9 AM

 

Mr. Blue Sky- ELO

 

Beach Baby- First Class

 

Summertime- Big Brother & the Holding Company

 

Summer Breeze- Isley Brothers

 

Come on Down to My Boat- Every Mother's Son

 

Indian Lake- Cowsills

 

Daydream- Lovin' Spoonful

 

Summertime- Billy Stewart

 

Racing in the Street- Bruce Springsteen

 

California Girls- Beach Boys

 

Summer- War

 

 

 

Did you catch yourself humming any of these? There are many other

 

great songs, but there was not enough time to play them. But, this

 

is a good start.

 

 

 

I myself had never heard of "Hot as Sun" by McCartney (not that

 

great), "Amusement Park USA" by the Beach Boy (great tune and list

 

of 60s places including the Parachutes at Chicago's late-great

 

Riverview), and the Isley Brothers version of Seals and Crofts'

 

"Summer Breeze" (dynamite version that I now like better than the

 

original).

 

 

 

Bob Stroud also likes to often tie the songs together in groupings.

 

See if you can figure out any.

 

 

 

Perhaps you have some you'd like to add. "Paradise By the Dashboard

 

Light" by Meatloaf and "Get Your Kicks on Route 66" come to mind for

 

me.

 

 

 

Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. --RoadDog

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please help if you can my name is ken and i have a dog named misty and

 

she is 16 years old and we are heading towards salt lake city utah..we

 

are now in chattanooga tn and we have been told that highway 80 heading

 

east is the way to go..well my little truck a four banger and no air

 

conditioning is worrying me a lot we have to be on the road come the

 

10th of august ..can anyone help in easing my mind on this trek..will

 

my truck pull the the mountains> and is it to hot for my kid

 

(dog)...thank you

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thank.s a lot Ken..yes that was a typo ,i 80 west..first time going to the

 

west from chattanooga....my truck is a chev luv.4 banger rebuilt good tires

 

and when i came to chattanooga 2 months ago i came the southern route from

 

california and really got hot my dog just about passed out..the truck is old

 

1987 with shell it's an old pacific telephone repair man truck which i bought

 

at

 

an auction ..so for the most part i am just a little uneasy about the

 

travel, but i have to go the place i am staying here is being sold so move i

 

must

 

..moving to salt lake to meet an old girl friend from california, she moved

 

to salt lake about 10 years ago and she said bring misty (my dog) and get your

 

but here,i talked to her yesterday and she said it was 104 degrees their..oh

 

boy...well ken thanks for your encouragement, will keep you posted

 

Ken and Misty

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Geocaching is a sport where people with GPS locators track down sites using

 

coordinates, or do a reverse cache by listing objects which others find,

 

photograph, and submit. Think "treasure hunt using hi-tech compass."

 

 

 

Among the seemingly million cache challenges are Lincoln Highway Markers. A

 

reverse cache, this was intended to be the 1928 concrete posts but people

 

also tracked down new markers and even Abrahman Lincoln trail signs. Still,

 

many concrete post pictures can be found here:

 

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...=y&decrypt=

 

 

 

Another cache is a "Lincoln Highway Bug" (like a dog tag, here with a

 

souvenir mini-post) that travels the route by attaching to vehicles, making

 

the search much more challenging.

 

http://www.geocaching.com/track/track_detail.asp?ID=9309

 

 

 

There are caches for Route 66, Weinermobiles, and lots more road-related

 

topics - search here:

 

http://www.geocaching.com/seek

 

 

 

Any geocachers on the board?

 

 

 

Brian Butko

 

www.brianbutko.com

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In a message dated 7/17/05 4:58:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

 

mdeckmama@hotmail.com writes:

 

I can

 

remember, as a child, taking road trips with my parents, to visit

 

relatives, of course. Back then that was what you did

 

for "vacation".

 

====================================================================

 

And I always thought it was because my dad was cheap. LOL. Nearly every trip

 

we took involved visiting relatives: South Carolina and Kentucky (my mom's)

 

and Ohio and Michigan (my dad's).

 

 

 

Traveling in the South in the early sixties was completely different, and

 

some of it was downright grim in retrospect. There were no interstates at first,

 

and we drove US 1 all the way to Columbia SC from home in Washington DC. The

 

grim part was the Jim Crow stuff. (I'm white BTW). Gas stations had three

 

restrooms: Men, Women and Colored. Signs in restaurants and cafes read,

 

sometimes

 

in crude, hand-lettered signs, "White Only" or "No Colored." Every once in a

 

while, you'd see a motel "for colored." The implication was that blacks were

 

not allowed to stay at the other ones. Nobody blinked an eye about it; this was

 

simply the way things were in the South until the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

 

 

 

But on the plus side, I fondly remember Stuckey's. I used to buy postcards,

 

souvenir pennants and postcards. I've kept them all through the last 45 or 50

 

years. I'm making a little money selling the postcards on Ebay now. I sell

 

there as train-riding-tom. I'd save my allowance and newspaper route earnings

 

for

 

months before we took a trip, to spend at Stuckey's and places like it. That

 

is, if I could get my dad to stop. He was a child of the Depression, and in all

 

likelihood, had no money to spend as a kid. So he didn't want me to spend any

 

either.

 

 

 

I'll post some more memories later.

 

 

 

Tom Hoffman

 

Pearisburg VA

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Hi Ken,.........I answer to that name too! Ha Ha Ha!

 

 

 

Well,..........If your truck is in pretty good running shape, You should have no

 

problems at all!

 

I'm not realy sure of what the temp. will be, But it can get warm out west "at

 

times" at that time of year.

 

But for the most part. It's not bad. Not sure how your dog will take it

 

traveling.

 

Just for a precaution, What you might want to do is get a big cooler & fill it

 

with ice & put a couple of larger heavy/thick plastic glasses in with it. This

 

will give you a way to handle the water/ice without wasting alot. The ice will

 

melt with time but it will stay cool for a long time. Then you will have a water

 

source if your truck were to overheat & or if you would need it to cool

 

yourselves off. Also a small food supply too like saltine crackers for a source

 

of salt etc.

 

You might also want to invest in a new fan belt to carry along with you as well

 

as a small basic tool kit for any repairs that may arise on your journey. A CB

 

radio is also a plus, But not neccesary, Alot of the truckdrivers out there are

 

very helpful to stranded/broken down motorists & will usually stop to help out

 

if help is needed.

 

Plus it makes the time go by faster chit chating away.

 

 

 

The biggest grade that you will encounter 1st will be Monteagle Tn. on I-24 a

 

short ways from Chatanooga Tn.

 

But for the mountains out west, Your 1st real grade will be the foothills west

 

of Chyenne to Sherman pass in Wyoming.

 

The mountains out there are not all that bad at all to travel in. After Rawlins,

 

The grades are just more or less a rolling type.

 

Near Elk Mountain they're just a little more than a rolling type. Your next set

 

of large grades will be at Fort Bridger Wy.

 

There will be 3 grades (nic named "the three sisiters" from what I have learned

 

by others) These are just your basic longer steep grades, One after the other

 

for about a dozzen or so miles. Then depending on which route you use in UT.

 

I-84 is mostly down hill all the way & runs along the, If I remember right.

 

"Weber River" , While I-80 you will have one more grade to pull. That starts

 

near the Coalville Ut.area.

 

 

 

 

 

If you are planning on running the Interstate system all the way, Here is

 

probably your best routing.

 

 

 

From Chatanooga Tn. Take I-24 west into IL.

 

Take I-57 north to I-64 west to St Louis Mo.

 

From St. Louis take I-70 west to Kansas City

 

Mo/Ks.

 

From K.C. take I-29 north to I-80 west.

 

 

 

 

 

Well,...........These are just a few ideas/things that I'd thought that I'd

 

mention, I realy do hope this helps you out!

 

If anyone has any better info. or if I need to be corrected. Please correct me

 

on this & or share your ideas with us to help Ken.

 

 

 

PS; I noticed in your post that you mentioned 80 east,.......It should be "80

 

West" I know that it's probably a typo,..................But I have turned the

 

wrong way at times without giving it a second thought until after few miles have

 

passed by, Ha Ha Ha! Oh brother!

 

 

 

Have A Fun & Safe Trip & Good Luck!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ken from Wisconsin, & former over the road long haul driver!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 10:32 AM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] first time traveller to salt lake city

 

 

 

 

 

please help if you can my name is ken and i have a dog named misty and

 

she is 16 years old and we are heading towards salt lake city utah..we

 

are now in chattanooga tn and we have been told that highway 80 heading

 

east is the way to go..well my little truck a four banger and no air

 

conditioning is worrying me a lot we have to be on the road come the

 

10th of august ..can anyone help in easing my mind on this trek..will

 

my truck pull the the mountains> and is it to hot for my kid

 

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Whoops!,............One more thing that I forgot to mention Ken. Please let us

 

know how your trip turned out!

 

I/we'd love to hear about it!

 

 

 

Ken S.

 

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Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] first time traveller to salt lake city

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Hello all, My name is Pamela and I live here in good old Granite

 

City, Il. Steel Mecca of the State. I just love traveling back

 

roads, little known and Famous. How else would you find a road side

 

stand selling local tomatoes and home grown Honey. You get to meet

 

some of the nicest people when you travel the Back Roads .I can

 

remember, as a child, taking road trips with my parents, to visit

 

relatives, of course. Back then that was what you did

 

for "vacation". I can still see those small horseshoe shaped

 

motels, with their little restauants and snowy white towels. Of

 

course, we had to stop at every tourist trap ,for souveniers, that

 

we saw.

 

 

 

 

 

My Dad was a victim of Wanderlust in his youth, and I guess I

 

inherited it from him, just like my nose! He has been in every

 

state

 

but two ,only because Hawaii was too far to swim to and Alaska was

 

just too darn cold! I believe, that you have to go somewhere

 

different every vacation, so you can experience everything. I would

 

love to travel Rt 66 in an old convertible . See I have the

 

Wanderlust in my blood too.

 

 

 

This seems like it will be the perfect group for me to join. Let's

 

share some stories and I will tell you where my Wanderlust has taken

 

me in my short life. Hint, I traveled with a Carnival for 8 years.

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "towelie" <bugo@h...> wrote:

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...>

 

> wrote:

 

> > If not in a big hurry take U S 67 south to the

 

> > Poplar Bluff are, then U S 60 west thru the Mark Twain

 

> > National Forest to Springfield, then U S 65 to

 

> > Branson.

 

>

 

> If you're REALLY not in a hurry you could take US 67 south to US 160

 

> west at Poplar Bluff, and stay on 160 all the way to the northern

 

> Branson area. I've only been on part of this route, but from what I

 

> understand most of it is crooked and narrow.

 

 

 

It really is fun to drive though. I work in southern Missouri and go

 

to Tesax and Howell counties all the time on 060. Most of it is 55 but

 

when you get past Doniphan, the limit on most of it is 35. It take

 

about an hour and a half, depending on weather, to get from Doniphan

 

to West Plains.

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hello Folks,

 

 

 

In case you missed all then News here, NJ is closed to all their

 

State offices, which includes the

 

DMV,

 

Casinos,

 

the NJ Lottery,

 

and all other State offices in Trenton and throughout the state

 

including OUR BEACHES!!!!!

 

 

 

This action by Governmor Corzine could even include the STATE RUN

 

TROUPERS ON OUR HIGHWAYS!

 

 

 

And HIS OUR POSITION AS GOVERNOR!!! (I HOPE)

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, Try to BYPASS us this SEASON.

 

 

 

 

 

Send us a Lottery ticket from your state.

 

 

 

A C Horsey

 

5 Hilside Ave.

 

Hopatcong, NJ 07843

 

or email me at:

 

 

 

achorsey1@peoplepc.com

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Welcome aboard Pamela - I too got the urge to wander

 

on trips to Ohio from Maine back in the late

 

40's/early 50's. Joined the military and let Uncle

 

Sam pay me to travel.

 

 

 

Now we wander here and there on occasion - have

 

traveled most of U S 40 between Wheeling and

 

Indianapolis; U S 51 Decatur, IL to Winona, MS; U S 64

 

across Arkansas Alma to Little Rock and 70 LR to near

 

Memphis - need to finish that up someday; few other

 

road trips in recent years.

 

 

 

Happy and Safe Traveling.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

 

 

--- pamela <mdeckmama@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> Hello all, My name is Pamela and I live here in good

 

> old Granite

 

> City, Il. Steel Mecca of the State. I just love

 

> traveling back

 

> roads, little known and Famous. How else would you

 

> find a road side

 

> stand selling local tomatoes and home grown Honey.

 

> You get to meet

 

> some of the nicest people when you travel the Back

 

> Roads .I can

 

> remember, as a child, taking road trips with my

 

> parents, to visit

 

> relatives, of course. Back then that was what you

 

> did

 

> for "vacation". I can still see those small

 

> horseshoe shaped

 

> motels, with their little restauants and snowy white

 

> towels. Of

 

> course, we had to stop at every tourist trap ,for

 

> souveniers, that

 

> we saw.

 

>

 

>

 

> My Dad was a victim of Wanderlust in his youth, and

 

> I guess I

 

> inherited it from him, just like my nose! He has

 

> been in every

 

> state

 

> but two ,only because Hawaii was too far to swim to

 

> and Alaska was

 

> just too darn cold! I believe, that you have to go

 

> somewhere

 

> different every vacation, so you can experience

 

> everything. I would

 

> love to travel Rt 66 in an old convertible . See I

 

> have the

 

> Wanderlust in my blood too.

 

>

 

> This seems like it will be the perfect group for me

 

> to join. Let's

 

> share some stories and I will tell you where my

 

> Wanderlust has taken

 

> me in my short life. Hint, I traveled with a

 

> Carnival for 8 years.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Russell S. Rein

An article about the Nevada Sierra Chapter of the Lincoln

 

Highway Association touring, and visiting the Dayton, NV

 

Museum: http://xrl.us/cj5u

 

 

 

LH Cross-country bicyclist Mark Junge has made it to

 

Wyoming: http://xrl.us/cj5w

 

 

 

.........and here's an interesting article about some guy

 

from Ypsilanti who collects a lot of stuff:

 

http://xrl.us/cj52

 

 

 

Two LHA members have written new books for Arcadia

 

Publishing:

 

 

 

Mitch Dakleman (LHA NJ Chapter Director) with Neal

 

Schorr, have written The Pennsylvania Turnpike, part of

 

the Images of America Series:

 

http://xrl.us/cj53

 

 

 

Cynthia Ogorek's Along the Calumet will be out in November.

 

 

 

Here's an idea from the LHA President, Chris Plummer:

 

 

 

Anyone (including LHA members ) who have a 1928 LH Marker

 

in their possession, should be encouraged to write into their will, a

 

local museum, library, or municipality, to which they would donate

 

the marker upon their demise.

 

 

 

that's all for now, your faithful servant at his hotel in Cinci,

 

 

 

ypsi-slim

 

 

 

PS - all my mail sent to Jay Banta at:

 

jay_banta@mail.fws.gov is returned as undeliverable???

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Sorry it's taken me longer than I expected! Hope it's not too late.

 

 

 

ND... Medora in the SW corner is interesting, especially the summer play.

 

Also there along the western border is Theodore Roosevelt National park.

 

It's broken into 2 sections. It's great, the ND badlands.

 

 

 

Up north Minot has the Norwegian heritage center with a museum and

 

buildings. Also in Rugby is the geographical center of N. America. Close

 

to that is the International Peace Garden on the US/Canada border. Very

 

lovely. Devils Lake is interesting and to the south of it is a nice

 

wildlife refuge to drive thru. Great photo op for wildlife.

 

 

 

Middle of the state near Stanton is the Knife River Indian Villages National

 

historic site. Very interesting.

 

 

 

Down south, Bismarck has Ft Mandan with museums and gift shops. Also, the

 

state capitol is nice. Heading east on 94 is Jamestown, which has an

 

interesting museum of the American bison.

 

 

 

 

 

Teri

 

 

 

 

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

Message: 5

 

Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:08:30 -0500

 

From: "Schultz, D&T" <clanhanna@bellsouth.net>

 

Subject: RE: Good Morning (North Dakota)

 

 

 

Message: 20

 

Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:08:27 -0500

 

From: "Charlie and Jan" <cchase@alpinecom.net>

 

Subject: Good Morning

 

 

 

Hi, I am new to the group. My name is Jan. I live in Iowa. My hubby and I

 

are planning a vacation starting next week. We were wondering if there is

 

anything special to see in North Dakota? We never hear much about North

 

Dakota. We are going to South Dakota, Wyoming and Montana. We are going to

 

Minn and go on interstate 90. Thanks, Jan

 

 

 

>>>>>>>>>>>

 

 

 

ND is great. It's not as tourist developed as many states but there is a

 

LOT to see. My husband is from ND so we are up there a lot.

 

 

 

I'll write more tonight, with details. (We're moving and I have to get busy

 

with packing and cleaning).

 

 

 

 

 

Teri

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Oh yes!! We've been all over the surrounding counties. Love going out to

 

Christian Co, KY to visit the Amish & Mennonite farms for fresh produce and

 

baked goods. And we go farther afoot in TN and KY too.

 

 

 

Teri

 

 

 

 

 

>>>>>>>>>>

 

Message: 20

 

Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:25:10 -0700 (PDT)

 

From: d b <roadstar37042@yahoo.com>

 

Subject: Re: RE: hello from Clarksville,tn

 

 

 

small world! Thank you. Do you do much road travelling here locally?

 

 

 

"Schultz, D&T" <clanhanna@bellsouth.net> wrote:

 

Hi! I'm from Clarksville too! And a native of MO. Have a great time on

 

your trip!

 

 

 

 

 

Teri

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good inf.... one other thing is a cell phone.Then you could call 911 if you

 

break down. Have a safe trip,

 

 

 

Bob

 

 

 

"Schultz, D&T" <clanhanna@bellsouth.net> wrote:

 

 

 

Oh yes!! We've been all over the surrounding counties. Love going out to

 

Christian Co, KY to visit the Amish & Mennonite farms for fresh produce and

 

baked goods. And we go farther afoot in TN and KY too.

 

 

 

Teri

 

 

 

 

 

>>>>>>>>>>

 

Message: 20

 

Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:25:10 -0700 (PDT)

 

From: d b

 

Subject: Re: RE: hello from Clarksville,tn

 

 

 

small world! Thank you. Do you do much road travelling here locally?

 

 

 

"Schultz, D&T" wrote:

 

Hi! I'm from Clarksville too! And a native of MO. Have a great time on

 

your trip!

 

 

 

 

 

Teri

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Granite City? Holy crap! I live about 10 miles up the road from you in

 

Bethalto.

 

 

 

I, too, signed up for this list simply because I haven't met a back road I

 

didn't like.

 

 

 

My goal in life is to be like Pamela's dad and hit each of what the Air Force

 

called CONUS, or Continental US. That would be the 48 states. No Alaska or

 

Hawaii...though I won't pass up a chance to check Alaska, either.

 

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To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 1:33 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Newbie

 

 

 

 

 

Hello all, My name is Pamela and I live here in good old Granite

 

City, Il. Steel Mecca of the State. I just love traveling back

 

roads, little known and Famous. How else would you find a road side

 

stand selling local tomatoes and home grown Honey. You get to meet

 

some of the nicest people when you travel the Back Roads .I can

 

remember, as a child, taking road trips with my parents, to visit

 

relatives, of course. Back then that was what you did

 

for "vacation". I can still see those small horseshoe shaped

 

motels, with their little restauants and snowy white towels. Of

 

course, we had to stop at every tourist trap ,for souveniers, that

 

we saw.

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