Guest bakerhab2003 Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Another cool thing about the Winslow Airport, is that it was designed by Charles Lindbergh in 1929 when it was built as a refueling point for the first coast-to-coast air service. The airport has been renamed Winslow-Lindbergh Regional Airport. Be sure to get yourself invited in to the pilot's lounge, and ask to see the the papers that they have about the Lindbergh connection. Oh, and be sure to meet the airport cat(s). It was Tina at La Posada who turned me on to this piece of information, when I was there a few years ago. Helen --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Ward" <flyboy1946@...> wrote: > > Alex, > > You seem to have history, roads and railroads covered. How about airplanes? The small Winslow airport has a museum about air travel and how it affected Winslow 60 years ago. It was one of the main stops for cross-country aircraft and supposedly was THE busiest airport in Arizona right after World War II. > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alex<mailto:designkat@...> > To: <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:23 PM > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Vacation to La Posada Harvey House in Winslow > > > Hello Everyone, > > I will be staying at the La Posada Hotel in Winslow, AZ for a few days > next month. Aside from the popular scenic attractions such as the > Meteor Crater, Painted Desert, and Petrified forest, are there any > other places in the area that you guys could recommend for vacation > enjoyment? > > History, railroads, and "Americana" are favorite subjects of mine, so > any suggestions on where to go would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Alex > > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 This is the first part of what I hope will be an ongoing saga of exploring the Dixie Highway. This is not a writeup of a single trip, but of several. Most were taken with Susan, but one was with my brother, Lee. So if my references to my travel companion seem inconsistant, that's why:) I've already written up most of the Tennessee Connector between Chattanooga and Eaton's Crossroads. A few photos from this stretch have been added, though, including a 1982 picture of the Dayton Courthouse, the site of the 1925 "Monkey Trial". Once again, the pictures are at http://community.webshots.com/user/babyboomerbob . The first pictures are on the Tennessee Connector folder, the rest in the East folder. ******* DIXIE DREAMING (PART 1) I have a dream. Not a very practical one, and not one that is likely to be totally fulfilled, but a dream nonetheless. And that is to explore the whole of the Dixie Highway system. Considering that the Dixie Highway wasn't one linear entity, but two main trunk routes with several connectors and alternate routes, it's quite a challenge:) But I intend to at least do what I can with it. The closest spot to our place to start exploring is on the Tennessee Connector at Eaton's Crossroads. Susan and I headed east on US 70 towards Knoxville. Not far along we stopped to look at the ruins of an old gas station. It's been long abandoned, and the roof is caving in. Now, while some buildings are made of native stone, this one looks like it was built of local rocks:) < Gas station ruins 01-04> After joining Lee Highway at Dixie Lee Junction <Dixie Lee Junction> we came upon the Court Cafe, a tiny mom and pop restaurant. <Court Cafe 01-03>. It's the kind of place that depends on local patrons. Their fried chicken is mighty fine:) Near the intersection with Lovell Road, I thought I had found a treasure. The 11-70 Motor Court looked really nice from the road, even showing evidence of carports by each room. Then I drove in. It no longer seems to be a motel, but *very* low rent apartments:( The former carports are now being used as open air storage. The outside of the units don't look *that* bad, and the yellow color is quite cheerful. It must have been a winner in its day. <11-70 Motor Court> Approaching downtown Knoxville on Cumberland Avenue, we passed through the neighborhood of Fort Sanders. Once a thriving neighborhood, it now mostly consists of apartments for the students at UT. There's a brand new pocket park there commemorating Ft. Sanders' most famous son, James Agee. He immortalized Ft. Sanders in his novel, "A Death in the Family." <James Age Park 01-03> Where the Dixie Highway heads north on Broadway, I took a picture of the most obvious remnant of the 1982 World's Fair, the sunsphere <Sunsphere>. Quite frankly, that fair was something I'd just as soon forget about:) At the corner of Broadway and Magnolia we reached the end of the Tennessee Connector and headed north on the Eastern Mainline. We traveled Central Avenue north, even though I could only guess that it was the original route. All the old roads through Sharp's Gap were obliterated with the construction of the interstate, so it took some serious detouring to get to my destination, Clinton Highway (US 25W). We took a quick look at the Airplane Gas Station. According to its web site, restoration is supposed to start this month. We shall have to see how things go <Airplane Gas Station 01-04> <East Folder>. Clinton Highway has, shall we say, a reputation as a place lined with honkey tonks and trailer parks. There used to be a sign along the road pointing out "Jacks or Better Mobile Home Park", but it's gone now. A day late and a dollar short again:( However, one important thing *did* occur in a mobile home off Clinton Highway. A young, down on his luck country singer and songwriter named Don Gibson was visited by his muse and in a single day wrote two country classics, "Oh Lonesome Me" and "I can't stop Loving you". Lee and I found some particularly nice stretches of old alignment in Anderson County. The concrete pavement has been quite well preserved. <Old Clinton Highway 01-06, Bull Run Creek Bridge>. Also in Anderson County is a classic temple to hillbilly kitch, the Ciderville Music Store. It's main business is selling instruments for playing bluegrass music, but it's also a glorious collection of humorous and historical stuff. <Ciderville Music 01-15> There's everything from a guitar playing rooster <06> to Slewfoot the attack bear <05> to an ad for Wildroot Cream oil, featuring Fearless Fosdick, Al Capp's lampoon on Dick Tracy:) <07>. Susan even posed with a string bass:) <11>. It's not easy to notice, but she is wearing a "Save the Airplane Gas Station" t-shirt. I was particularly struck by the school crossing sign <12>. I hadn't seen one of these since I was in grammar school back in the late fifties:) And it was in splendid condition! On the back was an ad for coca cola. It really brought back memories:) I had intended to get a picture of the Clinch River Bridge at Clinton, and now was the perfect opportunity. It's already four lanes, so it *might* not be messed with for a while yet. <Clinch River Bridge> I blinked several times when I saw Shylock's Pawn. I'm not so sure if I'd want to deal here with a name like that:) <Shylock's Pawn Shop>. On into downtown Clinton. The Ritz Theater has has a rather checkered career, starting as a movie theater, then a theater for live bluegrass, and now, so it seems, back to being a movie theater again. The close up of the box office shows a very nice sandstone facing. This is rather common around here, since there are quality deposits of sandstone on Cumberland Mountain near Crossville. <Ritz Theater, Ritz Theater boxoffice>. Lake City owes its name to TVA which built Norris Dam nearby in 1936. Before then, it was named Coal Creek and was the site of some bloody labor disputes in the early part of the last century. The sign for the former Chapman Restaurant pretty much sticks out at you as you're driving by. It's over a museum now, so hopefully, it will at least be preserved if not restored <Old restaurant sign>. North of Lake City, 25W hops aboad the interstate and the old road is signed TN Sec 116. I stopped along this leg to take a picture of a nice railroad tunnel. <Railroad Tunnel> Lee and I continued on into Kentucky and spent the night at Williamsburg. After a nap, we went out to explore the town. My Microsoft atlas showed the old route through town so we wound up downtown, wandering around. I took pictures of the Lane Theater <Lane Theater 01,02>, and a neat old building with a corner door that is now a hobby shop <hobby shop>. Then Lee took a picture of me in a gazebo near the Cumberland River <BabyBoomerBob>. (Continued in part 2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 On the next morning to Corbin. We stopped at a Hardee's for breakfast, then dropped our teeth when we looked across the street:) An old abandoned Krystal restaurant advertizing 5 cent hamburgers! Even *we* weren't old enough to remember Krystalburgers for a nickel:) <abandoned Krystal restaurant> Further along was a wall sign for the Dixie Cafe. Unfortunately, the lighting wasnt too good:( <Dixie Cafe wall sign> On the north side of town was a bit of history. The Sanders Cafe, site of the original Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurant. <KFC 01, 02>. We were a little early to take the tour, so we headed on. And finally, we stopped at a park to get a picture of an old bridge that was closed even to pedestrians. Needs some work. <Old Bridge> London is not too far up the road from Corbin. I couldn't resist getting pictures of this drive-in called the Dairy Dawg:) <Dairy Dawg01, 02> Once again, we were too early to stop inside. One disadvantage of getting an early start:) We drove by Renfro Valley, but didn't stop this time. Years ago the Renfro Valley Barn Dance took it's place along with the Grand Ole Opry, the National Barn Dance, and the Louisiana Hayride as a main source of live country music on the airwaves. It bears a return visit, along with the Sanders Cafe and our next stop, Berea. Berea is the home of Berea College, a school opened in the mid 1850's for poor mountain students. <Berea 01> We didn't really spend a lot of time, but we did get pictures of the place to be in Berea, the Boone Tavern Hotel <Berea 02, 03>. A lot of students work here to pay their way through school. Plenty of emphasis is placed on the work ethic here and students are encouraged to work. Aside from being an educational facility, Berea College has a lot of local history archived. Among the things they have there is a 1915 Dixie Highway sign < http://www.us-highways.com/dhimage1.htm >. On to Richmond. Mostly I took pictures of places I thought had neat architecture <Music shop, Bennett house, Justice Building>, but at the Madison County Courthouse I was confronted with a mystery. On the lawn was a marker, a metal plaque on a concrete or stone pillar showing a picture of Daniel Boone with the legend: "Boone Trail Highway".<Boone Trail Highway marker>. Now what on earth is this? I had to wait until I got back to search for more info. Since we all know that the *true* answer to life, the universe, and everything is not "42", (And anyway, Dixie Highway doesn't encounter US 42 until Florence, KY (but, as usual, I digress:))but "Do a web search", I got cracking:) The whole shebang began about 1913 in western NC, when a gentleman named J. Hampton Rich got the idea of erecting monuments to Daniel Boone. The original intent was to promote highway building in western NC, but it soon grew to a major undertaking, the monuments spreading from coast to coast. By 1938 358 of these markers had been erected. I have not found any evidence of any road building related to these markers, nor, despite a website showing a map, any Boone Trail Highway. Rich set up markers rather indiscriminately, putting them wherever he could raise the money to do so. Web links include http://home.ntelos.net/~gmarshall7/ and http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=30840 . Any more info on these markers would be quite welcome. Lee had never seen the old Clay's Ferry Bridge, so I took him down into the Kentucky River Gorge to show him that marvelously preserved late 1800s one lane span that was, for many years, part of the main road from Lexington southbound. We didn't spend much time in Lexington. It was the noon rush hour and we decided to cruise on through. Lexington would make a good day trip for Kevin, Susan and me some day. So all I have to show are these two 1987 pictures of the Lexington zero milestone, formerly on the grounds of the Fayette County Court house. <Lexington zero milestone 01, 02> Denny Gibson wrote me asking about the significance of the camel and rider on top. It seems to be some kind of mystery:) Any more info on this one would be appreciated too:) Lunch at a Burger King in Georgetown, Ky. Here I took a picture to show that road icons are still being created. Today's kids will be remembering this ad for years to come:) <Darth Vader> Just below Corinth, KY Lee and I stopped to check out this old former gas station. <Old gas station01-07> The first two pictures are from 1989 and show two abandoned buildings. The smaller one looks very much a Pure Oil cottage gas station, but the bigger one is a bit of a mystery. The front doesn't look like a regular house. Perhaps there was a dwelling upstairs and a business downstairs. In any case, the larger building has been demolished now, leaving only the foundation and the pillars in the front. The cottage, however, has been nicely restored and now sells flowers and garden decorations. The place was closed, or we would have inquired. In Hilltop, KY, US 25 intersects with KY 36. Here Lee and I spotted what looks for all the world like a tin tepee:) There is a minimart next door, so we inquired inside. Turns out it was a sign for a long gone truck stop. <Tin tepee 01, 02>. the second picture shows light sockets at the top, showing it was a lighted sign. While we were in the minimart, I noticed an old timey meat slicer that reminded me of the grocery stores in my old neighborhood, so I took a couple of shots:) <Meat slicer 01, 02> Lee and I finally rolled into Florence that afternoon. We wound up at the Turfside Motel on the main drag. <Turfside Motel sign> The price was certainly right, but it would have been nice to have hot water:( Well, at least there were no six legged surprises in the middle of the night:) ******* After this, Lee and I went on into Cincinnati, but as our adventures weren't related to the Dixie Highway, I won't relate them here. I'm thinking about making a couple of new photo folders for Cincinnati and Maysville. I may forego a formal writeup and just present the photos with captions. I leave you with one more inquiry. When Lee and I were in Cincinnati back in 1989, we ate at an eatery north of town on what I *think* was the old alinement on US 25. I remember it featured hot dogs and the owner had a big collection of baseball caps hanging from the ceiling. I figure it's not there any more, but still, any info would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J Lance Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Here's a question that maybe somebody can answer. In the 30's, US 67 split into US 67W and 67E at Searcy. 67W went through town and 67E bypassed it to the east. US 64 overlaps US 67 between Beebe and Bald Knob. My question is this: Which route did US 64 follow? Every map I have seen just shows 67E and 67W with no mention of 64. US 167 also follows US 67, but it wasn't extended north of Little Rock until the 1960's. By then, 67W was renamed 67C and 67E was renamed plain old 67. Brian and Kerri Wolters wrote: > That is GREAT! And yes, I hope they preserve it. Also, in Minturn, the > road splits in a very odd manner. In what way? Looking at maps of the area, I don't see anything strange. There are some other highways in AR that have been named to the National Register of Historic Places. Parts of US 67 and 71 in southwest AR, and the old part of US 71 over Backbone Mountain south of Greenwood. This is definitely one of the best preserved stretches of old highway around. It was even nicer until the last five years or so, when they replaced a small pony truss bridge at the foot of the mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 1941 AAA Tour Book, Western Edition, shows a major route going thru Seracy, a minor (improved road) going east. Doesn't show which way 64 goes, however. Between Corning and Walnut Ridge 67 went west thru Pocahontas, while a more direct route, not paved, was AR 90. Hudsonly, Alex B --- J Lance <bugo@hotmail.com> wrote: > Here's a question that maybe somebody can answer. > In the 30's, US 67 split > into US 67W and 67E at Searcy. 67W went through > town and 67E bypassed it to > the east. US 64 overlaps US 67 between Beebe and > Bald Knob. My question is > this: Which route did US 64 follow? Every map I > have seen just shows 67E > and 67W with no mention of 64. US 167 also follows > US 67, but it wasn't > extended north of Little Rock until the 1960's. By > then, 67W was renamed > 67C and 67E was renamed plain old 67. > > Brian and Kerri Wolters wrote: > > > That is GREAT! And yes, I hope they preserve it. > Also, in Minturn, the > > road splits in a very odd manner. > > In what way? Looking at maps of the area, I don't > see anything strange. > > There are some other highways in AR that have been > named to the National > Register of Historic Places. Parts of US 67 and 71 > in southwest AR, and the > old part of US 71 over Backbone Mountain south of > Greenwood. This is > definitely one of the best preserved stretches of > old highway around. It > was even nicer until the last five years or so, when > they replaced a small > pony truss bridge at the foot of the mountain. > > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, > Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a > message via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest egyptianzipper@aol.com Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 In a message dated 6/29/06 3:00:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hester_nec@yahoo.com writes: Put the freight back on the railroads where it belongs and spend some of the money repairing the interstates torn up by heavy trucks into improving the rail systems ===================================================================== I-81 through Virginia has gotten so bad that I try not to drive it anymore. I've worked out alternate routings. At least half the vehicles on 81 are trucks. The middle part of Virginia is the worst: roughly from the I-64 junction to the top of Christiansburg Mountain. Too much up and down. Trucks are always turning over on that stretch. Anybody know about the spectacular hill on I-77 at Fancy Gap VA, just north of the NC border? It's worth driving once just to see it. But if you're going south, and the weather is bad, you might want to consider taking old US 52 instead. Nine times out of ten there will be a truck turned over going down that hill if the weather is bad. Tom Hoffman Pearisburg VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 You can follow old 67 from Fredricktown to pretty close to St. Louis; a lot of it follows the four lane but there is a real cool truss bridge down by Bonne Terre or Desloge, I believe (goes over the Big River) Tsingtao Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian and Kerri Wolters" <brianwolters@cebridge.net> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:19 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US 67 > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "John Corcoran" <john@j...> > wrote: > > Mention of the old Lion Gas station signs reminded me that as late > as last > > year there was still one in Bald Knob, Arkansas. I was through > there this > > weekend and discovered that a brand-spanking new Shell station has > replaced > > it. But Kelly's and the Bulldog restaurants are still there. > Kelly's had a > > major re-vamp 10 years ago, but most of the Bulldog looks just like > it did > > in 1960. > > > > Quite a bit of the original US67 is still in use, mostly as AR367 > and US67B > > south of Bald Knob. North of Newport, like many areas in the > delta, the > > original paving is between the current highway and the railway. > The lack of > > development in these little towns has preserved some good road-a- > bilia. The > > lack of traffic makes the trip kind of pleasant (that's quite > unlike what it > > used to be like in 1968). > > Yes, there are a lot of the 67b's still in use..Beebe, Newport, > Searcy and even the very small towns between Newport and Corning. And > yes, the VERY old 67 can be seen in stretches next to the railroad > and you can see ROAD CLOSED signs by the old bridges. Very cool. > > And to be honest, 67 is still the fastest route between LR and St. > Louis. So many people want to take I-40 to Memphis and go up I-55 and > that is just a waste of time and visually boring. > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jennifer" <jabremer66@a...> wrote: > Well, after much procrastination (about 2 years!), I finally put up > the photos from our Route 66-themed wedding up on my website for > those of you who might be interested. The honeymoon photos should be > forthcoming shortly! > > Enjoy! > > Jennifer Bremer > American Road Yahoo Group Co-Host > > http://www.roadtripmemories.com/trips/wedding.htm That's beautiful! What a neat way to have a wedding! And a neat place, too. I have to admit when I read that "Burma Shave" sign I was laughing and getting misty at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Greenville has the Midway Drive Inn which, after a week at Boy Scout Camp, might as well have been Tony's; used to have another place but it closed...--if ever there was a wide spot in the road, Greenville is IT! Tsingtao Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian and Kerri Wolters" <brianwolters@cebridge.net> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:25 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US 67 > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <rudkip@s...> wrote: > > Don't forget the Dog N' Suds in Cherokee Pass! Tsingtao Kip > > How can I forget..it is one of the very original ones. Cherokee Pass is > a great place to see when you go North...kind of an Oasis and really, > the only eating places between PB and Federicktown. Greenville is a > cute little town but nothing much there. > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pirateofwallst Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 ---yeah thank god for wireless internet.. Im a day trader, i posted some picks this week but i guess they didnt meet criteria for this site. Any way up 75% thus far, life is good. Do it your way ebay, i hear that road calling.... vroom vroom In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, egyptianzipper@a... wrote: > In a message dated 7/11/05 7:13:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > pirateofwallst@y... writes: > I trade stocks to prove a living to my nomadic > existence, best part a internet cafe is never to far away and i can > work any where. > ===================================================================== > Are you a day trader? I read a couple of books on that, but I quickly figured > out that I don't have the stomach nor the nerve to do it. > > Or do you mean that you buy and sell stocks for clients? > > I sell postcards on Ebay. I suppose I could do that while traveling, if I was > willing to take my inventory and mailing supplies with me. > > Tom Hoffman > Pearisburg VA > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Zander Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Not completely remodeled but the atrium is done.The eighth wonder of the world. Its Awesome......Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat B. To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:00 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Driving American Two-Lane Roads 050712 It's currently open for tours, but not "business". However, a casinon is coming to French Lick, so the locals are hoping it'll inspire someone to purchase the hotel (for $30 mil) and re-open it. Pat B. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, egyptianzipper@a... wrote: > In a message dated 7/12/05 9:19:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > roadmaven@a... writes: > Also Denny, we're heading down to French Lick, Indiana Saturday to tour > the West Baden Springs Hotel with our Corvair club. > ==================================================================== > Is it still open? > > Tom Hoffman > Pearisburg VA > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest egyptianzipper@aol.com Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 In a message dated 7/13/05 9:20:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, brianwolters@cebridge.net writes: So many people want to take I-40 to Memphis and go up I-55 and that is just a waste of time and visually boring. ==================================================================== You're not going to believe this. A few years ago, the Washington (DC) Post had an article on Niagara Falls in the Sunday travel section. I couldn't believe the directions they gave: I-270 to 70 to 76 (Pittsburgh!) to 79 to 90 (Erie!) to 190. Buffalo/Niagara Falls is a straight shot up US 15 from DC. I despise interstate mentality. Tom Hoffman Pearisburg VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Hello! If you (or ANYONE ELSE) want(s) to see the road in Missouri with some fine people that know Route 66 in Missouri as well as anyone, the road as well as anyone, you might consider joining us for our Annual Motor Tour: September 9-11, 2005: The Route 66 Association of Missouri's 16th Annual Motor Tour ("Festival 66!") Commences in Springfield, MO and ends at the Tri County Truck Stop in Villa Ridge, MO. Tour registration starts at 4:00 p.m. Friday (9/9) at the Rail Haven Motel in Springfield. On Saturday, (9/10) there will be a Poker Run to Cuba, MO, and several festivals to take in along the way. Dinner Saturday night at the Fairgrounds in Cuba. On Sunday (9/12) tour Bob's Gasoline Alley and the Crawford County Historical Society and Museum, and view the murals in downtown Cuba. The Motor Tour ends at the Tri County Truck Stop Restaurant in Villa Ridge, where you are encouraged to enjoy their excellent cooking for lunch on your own. An excellent chance to see the "Show Me" State with your fellow 66ers! For more information contact Kip Welborn (314-853-7385; rudkip@sbcglobal.net) Or Jane Dippel (314-843-7132; vestaon66@cs.com) Or visit our website at www.Missouri66.org to download the registration form. You also might want to pick up Skip Curtis' book "The Missouri Route 66 Tour Book" which has pretty extensive instructions on taking the road through Missouri...being from Clarksville you might want to know that there is a place just SW of St. Louis called the Tri County Truck Stop (at the intersection of I-44 and SR 100) which has sweetened tea and Country Cured Ham (as well as some of the best breakfast and lunch buffet eatin you will find... Enjoy the ride! Kip Welborn, Cochair, Motor Tour Committee (who still fondly recalls the first time he had hot fudge cake at the Big Boy Restaurant in your fair city--back in the early 70's)... ----- Original Message ----- From: "roadstar37042" <roadstar37042@yahoo.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:31 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] hello from Clarksville,tn > I am new to this group and I just wanted to say hello to everyone. > Here in a few days I am going to take a short trip along route 66 in > Missouri. Just got back from driving the NM,TX and Oklahoma portion. > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 I almost forgot--and I hope it is still there (Jane would know)...there is a little town North of Greenville called Lodi that has a really cool roadside park...when I was at Boy Scout Camp, my dad would come up on Thursday with a bucket of Kentucky Fried Chicken and we would go there for a feeding...awesome times! Tsingtao Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian and Kerri Wolters" <brianwolters@cebridge.net> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:25 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US 67 > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <rudkip@s...> wrote: > > Don't forget the Dog N' Suds in Cherokee Pass! Tsingtao Kip > > How can I forget..it is one of the very original ones. Cherokee Pass is > a great place to see when you go North...kind of an Oasis and really, > the only eating places between PB and Federicktown. Greenville is a > cute little town but nothing much there. > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Corcoran Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 My guess would be that US 64 followed US67W through Searcy. Here's why: 67W was paved in the late 1920s, and the road marked 67E was a gravel road alongside the Missouri Pacific railroad until 1950. Then, a paved US67 bypass around the east side of Searcy was built, but this road was a mile west of the old 67E. 67W, with a bit of re-routing, became 67-City and 67E was abandoned. So 67W was the main route for Little Rock-St. Louis traffic, and it would make sense that 64 would follow that route. I suspect (though I can't really prove it) that this arrangement was because of where bridges across the Little Red were. There was a railway bridge next to 67E, but I think the main bridge across the river was north of Searcy along the route of 67W up until the 1950s. -J. ___________________________________ john@jecorcoran.org is John Corcoran Horn Lake, MS 38637 US http://jecorcoran.org -----Original Message----- [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Burr Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2005 18.21 1941 AAA Tour Book, Western Edition, shows a major route going thru Seracy, a minor (improved road) going east. Doesn't show which way 64 goes, however. Between Corning and Walnut Ridge 67 went west thru Pocahontas, while a more direct route, not paved, was AR 90. Hudsonly, Alex B --- J Lance <bugo@hotmail.com> wrote: > Here's a question that maybe somebody can answer. > In the 30's, US 67 split > into US 67W and 67E at Searcy. 67W went through > town and 67E bypassed it to > the east. US 64 overlaps US 67 between Beebe and > Bald Knob. My question is > this: Which route did US 64 follow? Every map I > have seen just shows 67E > and 67W with no mention of 64. US 167 also follows > US 67, but it wasn't > extended north of Little Rock until the 1960's. By > then, 67W was renamed > 67C and 67E was renamed plain old 67. > > Brian and Kerri Wolters wrote: > > > That is GREAT! And yes, I hope they preserve it. > Also, in Minturn, the > > road splits in a very odd manner. > > In what way? Looking at maps of the area, I don't > see anything strange. > > There are some other highways in AR that have been > named to the National > Register of Historic Places. Parts of US 67 and 71 > in southwest AR, and the > old part of US 71 over Backbone Mountain south of > Greenwood. This is > definitely one of the best preserved stretches of > old highway around. It > was even nicer until the last five years or so, when > they replaced a small > pony truss bridge at the foot of the mountain. > > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, > Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a > message via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Backlin Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 ----- Original Message ----- From: <rte66man@gmail.com> Newsgroups: misc.transport.road Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:55 PM Subject: OK Official Maps Now Online >I was blundering around in the ODOT website and came across the > following link: > http://www.okladot.state.ok.us/okinterstate50/roadmaps.php > I was floored. ODOT has gone from barely acknowledging road maps to > posting full fron and back scans of every Official State Map. > I've been looking at these myself and it looks like US 371 existed for 1 year south of Poteau along modern US59. Before that it was US 271. Later, it would be US 270 land eventually US59 as well. Also looks like US71 may have passed through the area at one time, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bakerhab@aol.com Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Elvis catchphrase king Al Dvorin, dead at 81 Tuesday August 24, 2004 By Associated Press MEMPHIS, Tenn. -- Al Dvorin, the concert announcer who made famous the phrase "Elvis has left the building," was killed in an auto crash in California. He was 81.Dvorin was thrown from the car he was riding in Sunday (8/22) after it swerved off a desert road near Ivanpah, the California Highway Patrol said.The night before, Dvorin performed his signature closing line at an Elvis impersonator concert in California.A former bandleader and talent agent in Chicago, Dvorin was with the King from his early days as a performer and was on his last tour in 1977, the year Presley died.The phrase that Dvorin made his signature was first uttered by other announcers early in Presley's career. It was intended to disperse audiences who lingered in hopes of an Elvis encore."Al made it his own with his particular style," said Todd Morgan, a spokesman with the Presley estate in Memphis. "He's the man when it comes to that saying." Dvorin's version was captured on many recordings of Elvis' performances and has become a pop-culture catchphrase and punchline.Dvorin told The Desert Sun of Palm Springs in an interview published Saturday that he had not heard others use the phrase before he began saying it."Everybody and his brother has claimed the line, and I'm sure Elvis' mother, when somebody called him, said, 'Elvis is not home. Elvis has left the building,"' Dvorin said. "As far as I know, I created it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Worley Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Its not Highway 61, but 61 don't go through Texas! This should be a fun series... from the Dallas Morning News website: http://tinyurl.com/3ok63 11:53 PM CDT on Thursday, August 19, 2004 They're on the road again -- 25 years later. In 1979, columnist Steve Blow and staff photographer Randy Eli Grothe traveled the longest state highway in Texas for a series of stories. Join them as they revisit the people and places along Highway 16, starting Sunday. STOPS ALONG THE WAY Sunday, Aug. 22: Bustamante, Escobas, Hebbronville Wednesday, Aug. 25: Tilden, Poteet, Bandera Friday, Aug. 27: Medina, Kerrville, Cherokee Sunday, Aug, 29: Goldthwaite, Comanche, Graham __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Backlin Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Ummm.. where's the photo? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hank Hallmark" <thehallmarks@earthlink.net> To: "Hank Hallmark" <thehallmarks@earthlink.net> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 7:00 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] The Signpost Forest > This is a photo of an [historic] Oklahoma state Route 66 shield that I > found in the "signpost forest" located in Watson Lake, Yukon Territory, > Canada during my recent "roadtrip" thru Canada and Alaska. > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest queenofthemaps Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 I guess this is OT since I'll be taking major interstates as opposed to old highways, but here goes: I'm driving from CA to TX next weekend, and am trying to plot where I will be stopping. Based on my calculations, I will need to stop around every 200 miles for gas (driving a big moving truck w/car towed behind it). Is there a website that can show me where I will be every 200 miles? I used "guessing" for the first leg: I guesstimated my first stop will be in Kettleman City, and it just so happens it's almost exactly 200 miles from Oakland. I want to "add" 200 miles to Kettleman City and find out where I will be next, then 200 miles from the next place, etc. That way, I can use my Next Exit book to plot out the exits I need to take for the places w/cheapest gas and to plan meals, etc. I've searched the net, but the only sites I've found thusfar are mileage calculators where you type in the departing and arriving cities. Any thoughts? No time for old highways and roadside lingering on this trip. Thanks, pascha in CA, soon to be pascha in TX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beckyrepp Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Greetings! A few weeks ago, Pat and Jennifer Bremer mentioned that AMERICAN ROAD magazine was launching a new website with an on-line Forum. That time has arrived! The new site and Forum have many new bells and whistles that we believe you will enjoy. Some of our new features include road news, calendar of events, pod casting, and a Sweepstakes that anyone can enter (no purchase necessary), in addition to the Forum—which has sub-forum capabilities. To make the move as easy as possible for our group members, we have uploaded a user name for each of you in the Forum. You will be receiving an e-mail in the near future with your user name and a password that you should change promptly to something you will more easily remember. Pat and Jennifer are currently customizing the Forum to best meet the needs of the group and will let you know additional details about the transition. Fasten your seat belts and get ready to take a spin at americanroadmagazine.com! Sincerely, Becky Repp General Manager becky@mockturtlepress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John W Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Auto club has great maps--or even an Atlas. Distance between every town is clearly marked, simply add each one till you get two hundred. I travel a lot and the "Best Laid Plans Of Mice And Men Soon Go Astray" is entirely correct. Never works out--too much difference in terrain, construction, traffic, etc. Your body will tell you when it's time, just don't stretch it. And also, you can enjoy the interstate, just as you enjoy the 2-lane, still an adventure with lots to see.---j, ipilot66 --- queenofthemaps <maplady@gmail.com> wrote: > I guess this is OT since I'll be taking major > interstates as opposed > to old highways, but here goes: > > I'm driving from CA to TX next weekend, and am > trying to plot where I > will be stopping. Based on my calculations, I will > need to stop > around every 200 miles for gas (driving a big moving > truck w/car towed > behind it). Is there a website that can show me > where I will be every > 200 miles? I used "guessing" for the first leg: I > guesstimated my > first stop will be in Kettleman City, and it just so > happens it's > almost exactly 200 miles from Oakland. I want to > "add" 200 miles to > Kettleman City and find out where I will be next, > then 200 miles from > the next place, etc. That way, I can use my Next > Exit book to plot > out the exits I need to take for the places > w/cheapest gas and to plan > meals, etc. I've searched the net, but the only > sites I've found > thusfar are mileage calculators where you type in > the departing and > arriving cities. > Any thoughts? > > No time for old highways and roadside lingering on > this trip. > > Thanks, > pascha in CA, soon to be pascha in TX > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jennifer Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Pascha, You might try Microsoft Streets & Trips. It's really flexible, where website map programs aren't. You can put in your departure and destination points, how long for the day you want to travel (say from 8:00 am to 6:00 pm); how often you want to stop, and the suration of each stop, and it will calculate the trip wonderfully based on driving speeds of the roads it leads you on. You can adjust the driving speeds if you drive a little slower or faster than the average speed limits. If you think you will stop sooner or later than the auto stops it sets, then you can add a stop, and the duration of that stop, and it will automatically recalculate the trip. If you enter in your average gas mileage of the vehicle you are driving and gas price (if known), it will estimate the cost of gas for the trip. Another nice feature of the software is that if you prefer to take non-interstates (not on your particular trip, just generally) you can set an option on the software to specify that it NOT route you on the interstates, that you prefer U.S. or state Highways. That's cool. The only thing I would suggest to Microsoft in a future version, is the ability to set preferences for certain roads in different segments of a trip. Right now, you can only set one preference on a trip. Jennifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Good news! Restoration on the Simon Kenton Bridge in Maysville, Ky. is complete and the span will be reopened next week. http://maysville-online.thimblemedia.com/article.asp?? catid=2&articleid=8459 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 That is good news. I don't get there often, but I've been there about three times this summer and missed crossing the old bridge. The new one, just a few miles away, is pretty and I can't say I don't like it but having both open will be extra nice. A real eye opener was reading that painting made up half of the $5.7M cost because of environmental regulations. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Reynolds [mailto:roustabout@starband.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:19 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Simon Kenton Bridge to reopen Good news! Restoration on the Simon Kenton Bridge in Maysville, Ky. is complete and the span will be reopened next week. http://maysville-online.thimblemedia.com/a...;articleid=8459 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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