Guest Bob Reynolds Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...> wrote: > US 62 didn't mean much to me couple of months ago. Then, in May, I drove a > stretch that crosses the OH-PA border and a stretch in KY about a month > later. Those were both very enjoyable drives and caused me to look into just > where this highway goes. Another business trip to Pennsylvania gets me > within striking distance of its eastern end so I'm heading for Niagara Falls > with plans to follow about a third of the route. Even though I've only > touched 62 briefly, I've been on my own time since noon yesterday so I'm > thinking the trip has started. Stuff leading US 62 is up at > http://www.dennygibson.com/rt62east with more to follow. > >Thanks, Denny. I always enjoy your travelogues, especially with all the good photos you take. I admire your efforts to update your trip logs as often as feasable (unlike a certain road warrior whom I shall not name who went to Chattanooga a couple of months ago and *still* hasn't done his write up:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robohat Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "turning2the_right" <turning2the_right@y...> wrote: > I thought you all might find this interesting reading. A guy from > England I met only on the Internet is driving a 1963 Buick Riviera all > over the USA, primarily on back roads and such. (We have been in > contact because I, too, own a '63 Riviera and he seeks mechanical > advice from me at times.) > > He started his journey in February, took a break in April/May and then > returned to continue the trip. He is keeping a Travelog of his > journey online: > > http://www.ealees.com/roadtrip/index.html > > It is interesting to read the observations and perspective about the > USA from a person from another country. You may also get some ideas of > places to go, things to see from him. > > Jim A 63 Riviera is a great car to see America in. They are a bit "thirsty" though. If he has time, the San Juan Skyway route in SW Colorado is not to be misssed. Run from Ouray, to Teluride, to Silverton, to Durango. Then ride the narrow gauge steam railroad in Durango. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russell S. Rein Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Hey Dave, I enjoyed your article and appreciate your research. Perhaps gas stations didn't need to advertise in the Yellow Pages, as a local business, unless they did AAA towing or such. It is pretty easy to do a deed search. The local assessment authority - be it a city, township, and/or the county, usually tracks the last deed of record in their tax file. This is public info. and you can usually get the "liber and page" from them with a phone call. Then you go to the Register of Deeds and look up the liber and page which is usually a Warranty Deed where Al Smith sold the property to Thomas Murphy. Then you can do a name search on Al Smith to work backwards in time on the property. In Detroit - Wayne County - most of the property at the Register of Deeds starts with British Land Grants. Keep up the good work!! slim On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 04:49:25 -0000 "David G. Clark" <olympia66@netzero.net> writes: I just wanted to let anyone with an interest know that I was able to do some research this last Saturday and the Chicago Public Library concerning the Castle Car Wash at 3801 W. Ogden. For those that do not know, this building is on Chicago's west side, on the alignment that was Illinois routes 4 and 18 and US routes 66, 32, and 34. This was a major auto throughway in its day, and the transient traffic supported literally dozens of automobile-related businesses. What we now know as the Castle Car Wash was built in 1925 as a filling station. My research on Saturday was to determine the names of the businesses that operated out of that building over the years as reflected in yellow pages telephone directory listings. I have posted up on my website as to the results of this research. The update is apended to the article I had previously posted about the Castle: http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com/Stories/Stories.html We are attempting to insure that this building is saved, since it is one of the few remaining structures from this area's highway past. Dave Clark Windy City Road Warrior http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com dave@windycityroadwarrior.com Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russell S. Rein Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Wow - Chicken In the Rough lives on in Michigan!! This is also still served at Haab's in Ypsilanti, MI!! ypsi-slim On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 18:38:54 -0000 "beckyrepp" <becky@mockturtlepress.com> writes: Hi. I saw that John had questions re: things to see/do in Michigan. If you have time, check out M-25 in Michigan--around the Michigan Thumb area. Lots of great places--including the Powers Diner in Port Huron on the cover of the Summer issue of American Road. Port Huron also has the Palms Krystal Bar and Restaurant still serving the famous "Chicken in the Rough!" Lexington is another great stop--be sure to visit the vintage General Store downtown. You might want to check out the Summer 05 issue (the current issue) of American Road as it has a feature article on M-25 around the Thumb. Safe Travels, Becky Repp becky@mockturtlepress.com Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russell S. Rein Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 I'm sure you can find some more info. on the web but I believe this was started by Beverly's Restaurant in Oklahoma City. The logo was a chicken playing golf. It is more of a franchised meal rather than a restaurant per se. I believe it consists of 1/2 fried unjointed chicket with those thin french fires and biscuits and honey. It was served in or came with a little tin-litho'd bucket. There are lot of Chicken in the Rough collectibles including postcards, matches, menus, paper placemats, and logo'd china and flatware. Try running a search on ebay. ypsi-slim On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:30:07 EDT egyptianzipper@aol.com writes: In a message dated 7/11/05 2:40:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, becky@mockturtlepress.com writes: Port Huron also has the Palms Krystal Bar and Restaurant still serving the famous "Chicken in the Rough!" ==================================================================== Please tell me what Chicken in the Rough is. There used to be a restaurant in Front Royal VA that advertised it on a big neon sign. Tom Hoffman Pearisburg VA Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beckyrepp Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 It's really GREAT fried chicken! Check out this link for the details and the history. http://www.chickenintherough.com/History.html.. Enjoy! :-)Becky --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, egyptianzipper@a... wrote: > In a message dated 7/11/05 2:40:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > becky@m... writes: > Port Huron also has the Palms > Krystal Bar and Restaurant still serving the famous "Chicken in the Rough!" > ========================================================== ========== > Please tell me what Chicken in the Rough is. There used to be a restaurant in > Front Royal VA that advertised it on a big neon sign. > > Tom Hoffman > Pearisburg VA > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Toshio Koshimizu Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Last June, my wife and I drove from Detroit to Seattle passing through 10 states, MI, IN, IL, WI, MN, SD, ND, MT, ID and WA. In MI, we visited 2 Auto Museums. In ID, we saw Covered Bridges in Parke County and visited home of my friends. They provided us with Indianapolis sightseeing tour. In WI we drove US14 and US12 from Madison to Eau Claire. From MN to WA, we traveled tracing ?EThe Yellowstone Trail?E route. We sometimes drove less changed rough dirt roads, such as CR7, 146St. and 458 Av. near Marvin (SD), Rt. 3110 near McLaughlin (SD), CR320 going Ismay (MT), Old Yellowstone Trail near Willow Creek (MT). We found old Yellowstone Trail Markers at Haynes (ND) and Snoqualmie Pass (WA). We met many nice and kind people during our trip. Every we met welcomed us warmly. This was really wonderful journey. We enjoyed driving American two-lane highways, US Highways, State Highways, County Roads and some backroads. We created two slideshows of this trip. URLs are as follows. Please give me your comment. Part-1: Antique Cars On Parade & Route 66 http://www.isao-net.com/slide/americanroads1/index.htm Part-2: Driving The Yellowstone Trail Today http://www.isao-net.com/slide/americanroads2/index.htm Toshio Koshimizu, Yokohama Japan e-mail: t-koshi@nona.dti.ne.jp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 What a great travelblog. I started at the beginning, followed along through Nashville, then skipped ahead to get up to date. I'll try to follow along (within a day or three) from here on. Plus I need to find time to catch up on the big chunk in between. I couldn't find an address but I assume you are in contact with Jon. If so, could you ask him for any good leads on a '63 Elf? Denny Gibson Cincinnati, OH www.DennyGibson.com > -----Original Message----- > From: turning2the_right [mailto:turning2the_right@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 1:58 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] US Road Trip in a '63 Riviera > > > I thought you all might find this interesting reading. A guy from > England I met only on the Internet is driving a 1963 Buick Riviera all > over the USA, primarily on back roads and such. (We have been in > contact because I, too, own a '63 Riviera and he seeks mechanical > advice from me at times.) > > He started his journey in February, took a break in April/May and then > returned to continue the trip. He is keeping a Travelog of his > journey online: > > http://www.ealees.com/roadtrip/index.html > > It is interesting to read the observations and perspective about the > USA from a person from another country. You may also get some ideas of > places to go, things to see from him. > > Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beckyrepp Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 One of my favorite spots on US 20 in Ohio is Angola. . . Luv the statue and round-a-bout. It's beautiful at night--saw it last night on the way back from the Catsup Bottle Festival in Collinsville. Re: the Amish Byway--it is going to be covered in the Autum issue of American Road (due out on store shelves in September)--which would be just in time for your trip. One other consideration in Northern Ohio--the Lincoln Highway. The routing is detailed by Gregory Franzwa in the Vol 2 #2 of American Road--it follows these roads at one point or another: SR 267, US 30, SR 172, US 250, US 42 (I might have left off one or two!). Anyway, if you decide to follow the LH, check out the 1837 Spread Eagle Tavern in Hanoverton! Becky --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "morningglory1955" < morningglory1955@y...> wrote: > Hi, Ann: > > Yes, there are some routes that run close to the Lake Erie shore: > US 6 west from Cleveland, and US 20 and state route 531 east > of the city. You can pick up PA route 5 from there if you want to > continue east. Some parts of these routes are picturesque, > others not as much so, but they give you a better "old road" feel > than Ohio 2 or the turnpike. > > South of Cleveland, you might consider a trip to Holmes County, > which is Amish country. Lots of wonderful scenery and things to > do in the various towns (we especially love Lehman's Hardware, > in Kidron--they have a website if you want to check them out). > Holmes County would be especially beautiful in autumn. As > might be expected, though, very few open businesses on > Sunday. > > A good reference book might be the One Tank Trips series by > Neil Zurcher. Entertaining to read, and he understands the > concept of "off the beaten path" very well. > > Alyce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 We have a plan to go to Bardstown next month and definitely plan to stay at the Wigwam in Cave City! Looks awesome! Tsingtao Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer" <jabremer66@aol.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:39 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Wigwam Village (Was Re: Interesting places in SC, KY, and TN) > >> If you're venturing further west, Mammoth Cave is cool and you can > stay at the Wigwam hotel.<< > > I echo Patsy's thoughts on the Wigwam Village - it's very cool to > sleep in a Wigwam! I took a bunch of photos of the motel back in > November 2003 for an article Pat and I wrote for American Road which > appeared in an issue in Spring 2004. > > http://www.roadtripmemories.com/trips/wigwamvillage2.htm > > As Pat reported earlier, there is a new owner, a young man and his > uncle who have been lifelong residents of the area. He indicated his > desire to maintain the standards of the motel which the previous > owner, Ivan John, started with his clean up after purchasing it. He > also indicated that they are booked up for the next three weeks, so it > would be a good idea to place a call to them in advance to make sure > they have availability. > > http://www.wigwamvillage.com/ > > He also said they are working on creating a new and improved website, > so that gave us comfort, because we doubted they'd do all that stuff, > including a new website, just to let the place go downhill. > > Jennifer > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ken Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Jim & group, I've only had time to read a few brief sections of this travel log & I think that it very Awesome!!! It's just as good as reading a realy good book with all of the pics. info etc. My wife & I are new to the group & am looking forward to reading & learning from everyone as well as joining in on the fun! I use to work & live on the road & have traveled all of the lower 48 states & DC as well as most of Canada many times over. From what I've seen so far, This group seems to be the best all around! Looking forward to more of the groups journeys/stories etc. when I/we get more time! Until then,............"Happy Trails" Ken & Brenda, from Southeastern WI. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "turning2the_right" <turning2the_right@y...> wrote: > I thought you all might find this interesting reading. A guy from > England I met only on the Internet is driving a 1963 Buick Riviera all > over the USA, primarily on back roads and such. (We have been in > contact because I, too, own a '63 Riviera and he seeks mechanical > advice from me at times.) > > He started his journey in February, took a break in April/May and then > returned to continue the trip. He is keeping a Travelog of his > journey online: > > http://www.ealees.com/roadtrip/index.html > > It is interesting to read the observations and perspective about the > USA from a person from another country. You may also get some ideas of > places to go, things to see from him. > > Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russell S. Rein Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 I really enjoyed your Yellowstone Trail slide show. Your dedication to find and drive the old road, and stay off those Interstates is admirable. US 2 in the West, in part, also carried the old Theodore Roosevelt International Highway. regards, ypsi-slim On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:36:44 +0900 "Toshio Koshimizu" <t-koshi@nona.dti.ne.jp> writes: Last June, my wife and I drove from Detroit to Seattle passing through 10 states, MI, IN, IL, WI, MN, SD, ND, MT, ID and WA. In MI, we visited 2 Auto Museums. In ID, we saw Covered Bridges in Parke County and visited home of my friends. They provided us with Indianapolis sightseeing tour. In WI we drove US14 and US12 from Madison to Eau Claire. From MN to WA, we traveled tracing gThe Yellowstone Trailh route. We sometimes drove less changed rough dirt roads, such as CR7, 146St. and 458 Av. near Marvin (SD), Rt. 3110 near McLaughlin (SD), CR320 going Ismay (MT), Old Yellowstone Trail near Willow Creek (MT). We found old Yellowstone Trail Markers at Haynes (ND) and Snoqualmie Pass (WA). We met many nice and kind people during our trip. Every we met welcomed us warmly. This was really wonderful journey. We enjoyed driving American two-lane highways, US Highways, State Highways, County Roads and some backroads. We created two slideshows of this trip. URLs are as follows. Please give me your comment. Part-1: Antique Cars On Parade & Route 66 http://www.isao-net.com/slide/americanroads1/index.htm Part-2: Driving The Yellowstone Trail Today http://www.isao-net.com/slide/americanroads2/index.htm Toshio Koshimizu, Yokohama Japan e-mail: t-koshi@nona.dti.ne.jp Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David G. Clark Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Russell: Thanks for your comments. I will keep your info about deed search for future reference. I've never done it before, so thanks. In this case, Phil Thomason has done most of that already. I need to fill in the gaps of the businesses that operated in the building. You are right, this local gas station may not have seen the need for a yellow pages ad in the 1960s, and so I will be checking the white pages for a "Murphy John J" at 3801 W. Ogden Ave. to see what I find. If its not there, then I will have to come up with another plan. Unfortunately, there does not seem to be a "criss-cross" directory for Chicago available for the 1960s at any of the local libraries I have tried so far--Not the Chicago Historical Society, or the Newberry, nor the Chicago Public Library. I have a few more University Libraries to check. I am also doing a Freeom of Information Act request for all building permits and building violations for the property and the adjacent vacant lot. The vacant lot is related, which I discovered today, and which will be my next update to the website! It's interesting that your deed records in Detroit go back to the British Land Grants. The oldest records in Chicago WOULD be Northwest Ordinace records from the U.S. Government, from the early 19th century. There may be some of this in existence from State and Federal records, but most anything that was domiciled in Chicago burned up in the Chicago Fire of 1871. Dave Clark Windy City Road Warrior http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com dave@windycityroadwarrior.com --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Russell S. Rein" <Ypsi-slim@j...> wrote: > Hey Dave, > > I enjoyed your article and appreciate your research. Perhaps gas > stations didn't need to > advertise in the Yellow Pages, as a local business, unless they did AAA > towing or such. > > It is pretty easy to do a deed search. The local assessment authority - > be it a city, township, > and/or the county, usually tracks the last deed of record in their tax > file. This is public info. > and you can usually get the "liber and page" from them with a phone call. > Then you go to > the Register of Deeds and look up the liber and page which is usually a > Warranty Deed > where Al Smith sold the property to Thomas Murphy. Then you can do a > name search on > Al Smith to work backwards in time on the property. In Detroit - Wayne > County - most > of the property at the Register of Deeds starts with British Land Grants. > > Keep up the good work!! > > slim > > On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 04:49:25 -0000 "David G. Clark" > <olympia66@n...> writes: > I just wanted to let anyone with an interest know that I was able to > do some research this last Saturday and the Chicago Public Library > concerning the Castle Car Wash at 3801 W. Ogden. For those that do not > know, this building is on Chicago's west side, on the alignment that > was Illinois routes 4 and 18 and US routes 66, 32, and 34. This was a > major auto throughway in its day, and the transient traffic supported > literally dozens of automobile-related businesses. What we now know as > the Castle Car Wash was built in 1925 as a filling station. My > research on Saturday was to determine the names of the businesses that > operated out of that building over the years as reflected in yellow > pages telephone directory listings. I have posted up on my website as > to the results of this research. The update is apended to the article > I had previously posted about the Castle: > > http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com/Stories/Stories.html > > We are attempting to insure that this building is saved, since it is > one of the few remaining structures from this area's highway past. > > Dave Clark > Windy City Road Warrior > http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com > dave@w... > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 > WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA > 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@y... POST a message via e-mail, send > it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Can anyone be of assistance with this query? Tsingtao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: Route 66 State Park To: rudkip@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 1:19 PM Subject: query from a Mrs. Falkenrath Kip, Hi! I hope all is well. I received a call from a Mrs. Mary Falkenrath from Rolla. Her father, Earl Jones, owned a business on 66 in the 50's called the Jones' Brothers Service Station. He was also connected to a place called the J & J Restaurant and Truck Stop in Jerome. She is looking for pics and memorabilia from these places. From what she indicated one or the other was near the Beacon Motel. She asked for various sources and help in possibly locating this information, and I gave your name to her and the Friends of the Mother Road. Could you possibly call her? Her phone is 573-341-2436. I also gave her Tommy Pike's name, and told her to try looking in the local paper from that era, as well as to check with the local Historical Society. I am also looking through our collections. Thanks, Michelle Neubauer Route 66 State Park 97 N Outer Rd., Suite 1 Eureka, Mo., 63025 P636-938-7198 F636-938-7804 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 We Buckeyes are always willing to take in a stray town or two but Indiana might not be ready to give up Angola just yet. Just teasing, Becky. I bet it looked like Ohio after driving from Collinsville. It's been a loooooooong time since I was there but I do have some pleasant memories. Maybe I can get back there sometime. Regarding the Lincoln Highway in Ohio, I'll grab this opening to mention Mike Buettner's excellent guide at: http://www.lincolnhighwayoh.com/preface.html . History, directions, and maps. Denny Gibson Cincinnati, OH www.DennyGibson.com > -----Original Message----- > From: beckyrepp [mailto:becky@mockturtlepress.com] > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:41 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Ohio > > > One of my favorite spots on US 20 in Ohio is Angola. . . Luv > the statue and > round-a-bout. It's beautiful at night--saw it last night on the > way back from the > Catsup Bottle Festival in Collinsville. > > Re: the Amish Byway--it is going to be covered in the Autum issue of > American Road (due out on store shelves in September)--which > would be just > in time for your trip. > > One other consideration in Northern Ohio--the Lincoln Highway. > The routing > is detailed by Gregory Franzwa in the Vol 2 #2 of American > Road--it follows > these roads at one point or another: SR 267, US 30, SR 172, US > 250, US 42 (I > might have left off one or two!). Anyway, if you decide to follow > the LH, check > out the 1837 Spread Eagle Tavern in Hanoverton! > > Becky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antnyr418 Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Hi everybody this is my first post, glad to be here I LOVE THE ROAD!!! I've taken many road trips, being from Chicago I have a choice to go any which way. I would have to say my favorite Road Trip was last fall. My best friend and I picked three different directions to go out of a baseball cap. We picked the Northeast. We left the Thursday before Columbus Day weekend and the fall colors were just about in full bloom, which we were told was kinda early for that time of the year. Here is our route. Night 1: Chicago I-90 tollway all the way to Canastota, NY. This took about 10 hours in all, not bad. When we woke up and pulled out of the hotel parking lot, we discovered that this was the town where the Boxing Hall of Fame was!!!! Night 2: I-90 to Utica, NY. Highway 12/28 North to Blue Mountain Lake, NY. This stretch was very scenic and right around Woodgate, NY you enter Adirondack NP. Highway 30 North to Tupper Lake, NY (about 35 miles)Highway 3 east to Saranac Lake, NY....Highway 86 east to Lake Placid, NY. This was a beautiful town, we ate breakfast here and did some souvenir shopping. From there we took Highway 73 East to Keene, NY then headed north on Highway 9N until we reached Port Kent, NY where we took the ferry across Lake Champlain into Burlington, VT. Not many places to stay there, and the town all in all was expensive. We ended up paying $225 for a Marriott right on the lake. I have to go to bed, I will post the rest of this trip tomorrow if you guys want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russell S. Rein Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Some controversey about the ebay Lincoln Highway marker medallion and a correction: Norman Root, the State of California Director of the Lincoln Highway Association, and Bob Dieterich, the State Chapter President both contacted me about the medallion sale on ebay. First - a location correction: Norman pointed out that this marker would not have been located at the junction of the two Lincoln Highway Routes (Pioneer Trail and Truckee Route). Instead it was from the the Junction of Greenback Lane and Folson-Auburn Road. This would on the NE side of the American River - just NE of Folsom. Delorme mapping still notates the bridge over the river as Greenback. Secondly - actions were taken to try to stop the auction and recover the medallion for Folsom - Here's what Norman has to say, "Bob,- Nancy Percy of the Folsom Preservation Committee notified me that the Committee, the Folsom Historical Society and the Folsom Public Works Department all pressured the City Attorney to file charges against the eBay seller. However, no one around seemed to have any memory or knowledge of the marker. Therefore, the City Attorney could not establish that the marker had been stolen from the City. It could have been "rescued" earlier when Greenback Lane was under County jursdiction, in which case the City would have never owned it." I applaud their attempts. The seller was apparently not very nice about the whole issue, and neither the seller or buyer have replied to my requests for contact. The fact that the seller almost bragged about recently destroying a marker to get at the medallion makes it worse. Maybe issues like this will lead to the Lincoln Highway Association discussing the whole issue of the private ownership of the markers. In 1934 Gael Hoag, the Field Secretary of the Lincoln Highway Association (and yes there still was some LHA activity after 1928) wrote letters to the Governors of the 12 Lincoln Highway states with markers (never had any New York), and asked them to protect the markers. What happened .........over the years the right of ways came under local jurisdiction, road worker when working on the LH pitched the markers, or stored them in their storage sheds, or buried them as concrete scrap. In other state with lots of markers people would just yank 'em out with rope, throw 'em in their truck and take 'em home! People just forgot their importance, and any chain of concern with the local municipality or state was broken. I challenge all LHA members with markers to donate them back to the LHA to be re-erected on or near an original site in a manner that they can be protected, like they did in Warsaw, IN. You can take a big tax deduction at the same time you are preserving history. Remember the markers were supposed to represent a permanent marking of the actual route of the Lincoln Highway. Ok, I'm stepping off my, not soap-box, my Lincoln Highway cigar box. A page about the 1919 Transcontinental Motor Convoy on the Lincoln Highway: http://www.eisenhower.utexas.edu/1919.htm Utah markers along their historic trails: http://xrl.us/cijr ypsi-slim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest turning2the_right Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...> wrote: > What a great travelblog. I started at the beginning, followed along through > Nashville, then skipped ahead to get up to date. I'll try to follow along > (within a day or three) from here on. Plus I need to find time to catch up > on the big chunk in between. Yes, it does take some time to read it all. I've been reading it from the start. He updates it every 2 or 3 days, as he finds motels with Internet access (and as he has time). > > I couldn't find an address but I assume you are in contact with Jon. If so, > could you ask him for any good leads on a '63 Elf? Sure! LOL Jim > > Denny Gibson > Cincinnati, OH > www.DennyGibson.com > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 I'm not sure that all of the Trace can be matched with modern routes. Between Wheeling & Zanesville, most of it became the National Road then US-40 and US-22 roughly follows it out of Zanesville but beyond that I can't say. Frank Brusca's US-40 site has this http://www.route40.net/history/zane.shtml > -----Original Message----- > From: [mailto:egyptianzipper@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:42 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Ohio River > > > In a message dated 8/10/05 8:45:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > denny@dennygibson.com writes: > Maysville, on the KY side, is > where the area's first "road", Zane's Trace, ended > ===================================================================== > Would that be what is now US 68? > > Tom Hoffman > Pearisburg VA > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Was it you or the bridge? As I said, that bridge has been known to move--it is not the most stable of structures; I am amazed that it has lasted as long as it has! Tsingtao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Backlin" <us71@sbcglobal.net> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Those old metal bridges! > I crossed the Mississippi River today on the US 60 and was freaking out the > whole time. Normally I like old bridges, but for some reason I was shaking. > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jennifer Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Hi Bill, That is an excellent idea, and we actually thought of that. However, we only thought of it at 4:00 AM the morning we left! LOL We had so much to think about for this trip, dealing with the list while we were away slipped our minds. Normally, we would have thought of that and assigned a moderator sooner. We hope that there weren't too many problems while we were away. Pat removed some spam and deleted the new member who posted it. The list is now back to its former status: All new members must be approved by Pat or myself, and all new members' posts are moderated for a day or two. Jennifer Bremer http://www.roadtripmemories.com --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Kruser" <imagesbywd@a...> wrote: > > > Pat and Jennifer, > > For what it is worth, I would suggest that from now on you leave the > postings moderated for all new members, even if you are away. Either > that or have someone be assigned to be a moderator and watch the list in > your absence or just hold all approval until you return. I would vote > to have a moderator oversee it. > > I have a couple of lists where I am the owner and have moderators and we > monitor the postings of new members. Not to stop any postings by our > members but just to keep the off topic or should I say WAY off topic > spamming out of our groups. This seems to work out very well. > > Just my 2 cents worth. > > > -- > Images by W.D. > Bill Kruser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scott Piotrowski Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 My search on Google was actually something like "camping Marietta Muskingum" or something like that. It was kind of weird. And somehow that site ended up popping up first on the list. I started reading it and was like, "Woah, this could be a cool trip for some American Road-ers." Me, well, I'm not a water person, personally. Scott Piotrowski Director, 66 Productions Moderator, Historic Roads Preservation --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <thehinge@m...> wrote: > That looks like an excellent road site about the Ohio River > scenic byway, Scott. I'm going to check that out myself. > And under the domain name mathtutorchicago.com....that > would have been tough to find in a search engine when > inputing anything about road trips. Is that your trip, did > you know the person or did you just stumble across it? > > Matt Smallwood > > > > > > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:20:38 -0000 > "Scott Piotrowski" <rt66prods@y...> wrote: > > I went to Marietta College and can say that the entire > > city is > > wonderful. It's a beautiful area, with a wonderful old > > downtown and > > many quaint old shops. I walk across the Muskingum River > > on the old > > railroad bridge is a must. A visit to the Mound Cemetery > > (I won't > > tell you how many times I was there around midnight!) is > > a must. > > I've heard good things about the Maritime Museum, but I > > don't think > > I ever went. Depending on when you are going, there is a > > Sternwheel > > Festival every year in early September, I believe, that > > is quite > > interesting and entertaining for the entire family. > > > > As for campgrounds in the area, Wolf Run State Park is 28 > > miles > > north of Marietta, near Caldwell, just off of I-77. I > > thought that > > there was a campground just north of Marietta along the > > Muskingum > > River, but I couldn't find it in a quick internet search. > > You might > > wish to contact the Chamber of Commerce, though, and ask > > them. > > > > While searching for that campground along the Muskingum, > > I did find > > this link, which I find pretty interesting: > > http://mathtutorchicago.com/ohioriverexpedition/?p=13 > > > > Scott Piotrowski > > Director, 66 Productions > > Moderator, Historic Roads Preservation > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Popovich" > > <huronscoot@y...> wrote: > > > Hi all. > > > I am new to the group. My family and I are going > > to be doing > > the > > > Ohio River Scenic Byway trip and was wondering if > > anyone knew of > > good > > > campgrounds (tenting) or any attractions along the way > > that we > > should > > > not miss. We will be starting from East Liverpool and > > ending at St > > > Louis. Any feedback will be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > --------------------~--> > > <font face=arial size=-1><a > > > href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h8irpf7/M=36...6882500.7825259.. 1493532/D=groups/S=1707284507:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123690862/A=2889190/R=0 /SIG=10r90krvo/*http://www.thebeehive.org > > ">Put more honey in your pocket. (money matters made > > easy) Welcome to the Sweet Life - brought to you by One > > Economy</a>.</font> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- -~-> > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE > > 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, > > Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > > > > For questions about the list, contact: > > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@y... POST a message > > via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. > http://www.nni.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scott Piotrowski Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Denny I grew up in Willoughby. My dad grew up half in Cleveland (near West Side) and half in Ashtabula. My mom, well, she's a hillbilly (I use that term affectionately everyone, so no one get upset with it!) having grown up in Weston, WV. I spent a lot of time in the summers growing up on the road back and forth between Willoughby and Weston (and other parts of West Virginia), and was pretty happy to discover Marietta College when my school searching began. It has a great education program, and that is what I was originally studying. But I digress from the "American Roads" topics here. The Mound is a wonderful, albeit solemn, stop. Our late night excursions there (by the way, it is officially illegal to enter the cemetery after a set hour) were primarily for solitude and quiet. Yes, the maritime museum is the one you mention below, the Campus Martius Museum. I'd also recommend Blennerhassett Island, but that's only on word-of-mouth, having never actually gotten there myself. For a good place to eat (it's all coming back to me now, those college days!) head across the River (not on the interstate, but on the other road, which I fail to remember what it is) into Williamstown, WV. Just across the road is an Italian restaurant that is pretty darn good. It's on the left, at the light, after crossing the bridge. Scott Piotrowski (a Buckeye by birth, but a Californian at heart!) Director, 66 Productions Moderator, Historic Roads Preservation --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...> wrote: > Hey, Scott, I knew there was something about you I liked; Must be that > Buckeye background;-) I expect great CA pointers from you but now you're > turning me on to stuff in my home state. I've never been to Mound Cemetery > but have put it on my list. > > I assume that the Maritime Museum you mention is the Ohio River Museum. I've > been there and recommend it but, according to their website ( > http://www.ohiohistory.org/places/ohriver/ ), it's only open on weekends. Of > course, Marietta is a most interesting and historic town all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jennifer Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Hi all... For those of you that were aware of it (or to inform those who weren't!), Pat and I went to Atlanta on Saturday 8/14 so I could have surgery with an endometriosis specialist, of whom there's only about 25 in the country. For more on endometriosis, a chronic, incurable and debilitating disease affecting about 15% of all women, click here: http://www.centerforendo.com/QandA.htm I ask that you share this website with any women you know so you will be aware of the symptoms of this disease. The majority of doctors are sadly misinformed about this disease and the treatment options. I am on a personal mission to make more people aware of this disease, obtain a proper diagnosis and obtain the right treatment and hopefully live as pain-free a life as possible! I'd been through 1 extremely unsuccessful surgery which left me WORSE off! But after doing some research, I found an excellent surgical treatment with high success rates. Being that true specialists in this disease are rare (there's only around 25 in the country and none are in my HMO network), I was afraid I would be stuck with the current drug and surgical treatments ordinary doctors provide (which are NOT promising and surprisingly more harmful than helpful). However, after pursuing the issue, I learned that I could fight my HMO to get the right treatment with a specialist in endometriosis. I fought for 5 months with calls, faxes, and tons of documentation - I jumped through a bunch of hoops by seeing various in network docs, second opinion, tests, etc...but I finally prevailed. They approved me at 100% to go to an out of network specialist. So, I had the surgery last Wednesday and the doctor said I have about a 95% chance of no further problems!! Time will tell, since I am still healing from surgery and am still feeling fairly out of it. I'll be recovering for at least a couple more weeks. If you, or anyone you know has any symptoms on the website listed above and would like to know more, please feel free to e-mail me any time. I would be glad to help, since I cannot sit by and let women suffer in pain with poor treatment options. Off to go back to rest.... Jennifer Bremer http://www.roadtripmemories.com --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, laurelrk66@a... wrote: > Pat Bremer just typed out a very short text message on Jen's cell phone to > let me know that she is out of surgery, which lasted three hours, and all is > well. The outlook is very good. He asked me to pass the word to all their > roadie friends. I'm always happy to pass along that kind of news! > > Laurel Kane > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Backlin Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 According to James Baughn's Midwest Places site, the bridge is functionally obsolete with a sufficiency rating: 43.90 . Maybe it WAS the bridge ... or maybe it was both of us ----- Original Message ----- From: <rudkip@sbcglobal.net> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Those old metal bridges! > Was it you or the bridge? As I said, that bridge has been known to > move--it > is not the most stable of structures; I am amazed that it has lasted as > long > as it has! Tsingtao, Kip > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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