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I thought maybe you were when you signed it Mr RoadKing. I also ride a M/C (1100

 

V-Star) and have been wanting to ride in that area...esp the Tail of the Dragon.

 

I have relatives that live east of Knoxville, so maybe I'll soon be able to

 

combine a visit with them and at the same time be able to take in those

 

wonderfull roads in the Tn/N.C. area.

 

 

 

Are you making the trip alone or going with others? How long of a trip (days) do

 

you have planned for it? I hope you have a wonderful and safe ride. Be sure and

 

give us a rightup on your trip when you get back.

 

 

 

Keep the rubber side down.

 

Patti Ray

 

Wills Point, Tx.

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, I am riding from here in Little Rock to the Virginia end of the

 

Parkway, then heading south along the parkway into the Smokey

 

Mountains. I'll be on a Harley RoadKing towing a little cargo

 

trailer with my tent and gear. The bike is a great cross country

 

ride and (other than putting up with the heat) is very pleasant to

 

ride.

 

MrRoadKing

 

 

 

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>

 

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Rita,

 

 

 

There is also a permanent staff at the weather

 

observatory up there on the mountain - 24/7, year

 

round. They use a big snow cat to get on and off the

 

mountain in the winter - and you thought taking the

 

road in summer in a car was a thrill and a half. LOL

 

 

 

Happy Traveling.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- keepitreal08628 <keepitreal08628@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr

 

> <hester_nec@y...>

 

> wrote:

 

> > Hi Merziyah,

 

> >

 

> >> You can drive up Mount Washington on the auto

 

> road

 

> > out of Glen House on U S 16 about 15 miles north

 

> of

 

> > the junction of 16 and 302. Or you can take 302

 

> west

 

> > a ways and take the cog railway to the top -

 

> > http://www.cog-railway.com/indexa.htm - leave the

 

> > driving to them.

 

>

 

> Driving up Mt. Washington is only for the most

 

> stalwart, trust me.

 

> We went to NH on vacation one summer with our 5 kids

 

> and six other

 

> couples and their families. That was the one year

 

> my husband got

 

> called back to work. We tried to do Mt. Washington

 

> on Tuesday, but

 

> they wouldn't let us up that day because of the

 

> weather. Husband

 

> went home, and Wednesday we tried again. This time,

 

> our oldest son

 

> (17 at that time) was the driver.

 

>

 

> As I remember, going up was better than coming down.

 

> When we got up

 

> there, the wind was so strong it blew my glasses

 

> off, and also blew

 

> my 5-yr-old away from me! (Down below it was a nice

 

> day.) I

 

> couldn't believe there are people who actually go up

 

> there every day

 

> (to work in the little coffee shop).

 

>

 

> Coming down was TERRIFYING. I could not look, and

 

> huddled myself

 

> down in the back seat. My son earned his driving

 

> stripes that day.

 

> If he could drive that mountain, he can drive

 

> anywhere.

 

>

 

> That was one bumper sticker we really earned: "This

 

> car climbed Mt.

 

> Washington"--but I should add in red letters after

 

> that, "NEVER

 

> AGAIN".

 

>

 

> BTW, they don't let every car go up. It has to have

 

> a certain kind

 

> of brakes. It's neat now to be able to say I did

 

> it, but it was not

 

> enjoyable. The view was spectacular, but I was so

 

> frightened that

 

> my kids would be blown by the wind, I was anxious to

 

> get back

 

> down...and then the ride down, he had to keep the

 

> brake on the whole

 

> way, I was afraid they would burn out or slip...NOT

 

> a good feeling.

 

>

 

> Rita

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

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but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

 

 

 

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...>

 

wrote:

 

> Rita,

 

>

 

> There is also a permanent staff at the weather

 

> observatory up there on the mountain - 24/7, year

 

> round. They use a big snow cat to get on and off the

 

> mountain in the winter - and you thought taking the

 

> road in summer in a car was a thrill and a half. LOL

 

>

 

> Happy Traveling.

 

>

 

> Hudsonly,

 

> Alex B

 

 

 

...and I think of myself as an "adventurer". HA!

 

 

 

Rita

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Guest Duty and Duce

As a former resident of old Virginia I made the Blue Ridge Parkway a

 

annual from 1980 to 2000 when I move to The Last of the wild west

 

Nevada.

 

The best advice I can give you is allow yourself several days to

 

enjoy the ride and take in the sights.

 

Start your Ride early in the AM and stop early I have ridden miles

 

on the parkway before 0900 and never seen another car or land yacht.

 

If you can plan your time on the parkway sun -fri you will find a

 

lot lees traffic.

 

Stop at the ranger station at the beginning and get a free map and a

 

guide this will give you all of the sights and service on the

 

parkway. There are plenty of restaurants, motels, campgrounds, and

 

gas stations on or just off the parkway I always made the peaks of

 

otter on of my overnight stops.

 

I would avoid The Skyline Drive a little to slow and very crowed at

 

least for my taste. If you want a nice side ride try deals gap

 

located in the south western Conner of NC 318 curves in 11 miles

 

plus the ride there is not bad.

 

Enjoy the trip

 

 

 

ride safe, ride proud, on American iron

 

 

 

Duce

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "roadking7769"

 

<roadking7769@y...> wrote:

 

> I am planning a trip from Little Rock, AR to ride the Blue Ridge

 

> Parkway; never been and would appreciate any input and pointers.

 

> Thanks

 

> MrRoadKing

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Guest Chris

Great show! Big Alton Brown (Iron Chef, Bobby Flay, Rachael Ray) fan.

 

I'm thinking Alton was one of "The Science Guys" on Discovery Channel.

 

Soledad O'Brien (yum) played a computerized answer lady on the show.

 

OT: but does anyone remember that? . . searching "The Know Zone" . . .

 

 

 

Anyway, I jumped over to the new forum last night. Added a few photos

 

I've been meaning to share. US-30 attractions in NJ and more!

 

 

 

"Come on in, the water is fine!"

 

... Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> Lulu,

 

>

 

>

 

> Sounds like a good show. It would be great if you would post this on

 

> the new Forum. If you're having trouble loggin in or getting your

 

> e-mail digests set up, let us know - we're happy to help. The same

 

> goes for everyone else out there. We're having some fun on the FORUM.

 

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>

 

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> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Lulupic66@ wrote:

 

> >

 

> > HI all,

 

> > I was turned on to this show by another friend. I caught it last

 

> night and

 

> > it was VERY GOOD

 

> > The synopsis is

 

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Guest Shellee Graham

GET YOUR KICKS ON ROUTE 66

 

C h I c a g o by BUS

 

Saturday, August 26 from 12:30-4:30pm

 

 

 

The Mother Road Trip with Dave Clark

 

 

 

the link to our website which has information on The Mother Road Trip.

 

SPREAD the WORD.

 

 

 

Join Rt. 66 expert, David Clark, as he leads us on a bus tour into the great

 

city of Chicago while pointing out historical Rt. 66 landmarks along the

 

way.  Once in Chicago, David will lead us on a walking tour through parts of

 

the city, transporting us into the 1920?s by explaining some of the

 

significant architecture from the era.  After spending a couple of hours in

 

the city, we will board the bus to return back to the Elmhurst Art Museum,

 

driving by a few more Rt. 66 landmarks along the way. 

 

 

 

LINK http://www.elmhurstartmuseum.org/education.htm

 

 

 

This event will depart from the Elmhurst Art Museum (near Chicago) where my

 

touring photo exhibit

 

RETURN TO ROUTE 66:

 

PHOTOGRAPHS FROM THE MOTHER ROAD

 

will be on display through

 

July 22 - September 10, 2006

 

 

 

http://www.elmhurstartmuseum.org/exhibitions.htm

 

 

 

Contact info@elmhurstartmuseum.org

 

 

 

Elmhurst Art Museum

 

150 Cottage Hill Ave.

 

Elmhurst, IL 60126

 

(630) 834-0202

 

(630) 834-0234 FAX

 

www.elmhurstartmuseum.org

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Guest Bob Reynolds

Susan found this cute little program that allows you to make your own

 

"neon" messages and generate a virtual picture of them:)

 

 

 

http://www.glassgiant.com/misc_neon_sign.php

 

 

 

She made a few signs for me, like "OLD ROAD FANATIC" and "IT'S

 

FOOTBALL TIME IN TENNESSEE":) The only problem I've found is it's

 

hard to distinguish H from K and U from V. Oh well, it's still fun:)

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Guest Shellee Graham

Hey folks,

 

 

 

Here's the address to send a letter of support on having the United States

 

Postal Service approve a ROUTE 66 stamp.

 

 

 

Mr. Terrence W. McCaffrey,

 

Manager Stamp Development

 

1735 N. Lynn St. Suite 5013

 

Arlington, VA 22209-6432

 

 

 

or

 

 

 

Citizen Stamp Advisory Committee

 

c/o Stamp Development USPS

 

476 L'Enfant Plaza SW, Room 5670

 

Washington,DC 20260.

 

 

 

==========================================

 

 

 

Some of you met Pat in Albuquerque...

 

 

 

 

 

As for the stamp I was advised by others including Tommy Pike to stick with

 

the 66 stamp perhaps each stamp barring each of the eight states that the

 

highway goes thru. He put Scott Maness to work with me on this project as a

 

special committee. I wrote a letter back to Terrence W. McCaffrey, Manager

 

of Stamp Development of the USPS to see if the committee has definitely

 

selected 2009 as the issue year if so is it possible he could say for now or

 

as time gets closer that it is a reality. I appreciate the help on this.

 

 

 

--- Pat Henderson, St. Louis

 

Pat & Phil Henderson <patandphil66@earthlink.net>

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Guest sundayjohn66

Priceless! But you *do* realize that you will be morally obligated to let me

 

crash at your place after Ron kicks me out of the house for running up an

 

ungodly credit-card bill buying this stuff, don't you? ;)

 

 

 

Emily

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Guest Alex Burr

After reading Denny's revue of "American Road - The Story of An Epic

 

Transcontinental Journey At the Dawn of the Motor Age", to give it

 

it's full title, by Pete Davies I went looking for a copy.

 

 

 

I went over to Amazon.com and ran a search - wound up finding a copy

 

for $2.90, plus shipping, from an on-line bookstore in Philadelphia,

 

BookBrothers.com.

 

 

 

At that price I ordered it - figured it would probably come in bits

 

and pieces. Imagine my pleasure and surprise to find I had a like new

 

book, complete with dust jacket.

 

 

 

Anyway, I just finished reading it - what a story!!!! By the time

 

the convoy reaches Utah, in the book, you begin to wonder How'd They

 

Do That!!! It's a totally unbelievable story. We read various

 

stories of early cross-country drives back to 1900 and most read like

 

"we breezed right thru with no problems!!" This one tells of trucks

 

sinking to the axles and beyond, crossing mountain ranges with 2 feet

 

between the outer wheels and drops of several hundred feet. It tells

 

of the efforts of the Lincoln Highway Association to build a

 

trans-continental interstate highway and tells about the in-fighting

 

and politics involved by cities trying to get on the Highway.

 

 

 

A great story for anyone with an interest in how it was in the

 

pioneer days.

 

 

 

Happy and Safe Travels - read this book and even the worst motel

 

will seem like paradise!!! LOL

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

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Guest Mike Ward

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at www.alibris.com<http://www.alibris.com/>. According to their web site they

 

have 288 copies available. The starting price is $2.95 plus shipping and they

 

have 28 copies at that price. No wait, I guess it's now 27 copies - I just

 

bought one.

 

 

 

Mike

 

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Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] American Road - The book

 

 

 

 

 

After reading Denny's revue of "American Road - The Story of An Epic

 

Transcontinental Journey At the Dawn of the Motor Age", to give it

 

it's full title, by Pete Davies I went looking for a copy.

 

 

 

I went over to Amazon.com and ran a search - wound up finding a copy

 

for $2.90, plus shipping, from an on-line bookstore in Philadelphia,

 

BookBrothers.com.

 

 

 

At that price I ordered it - figured it would probably come in bits

 

and pieces. Imagine my pleasure and surprise to find I had a like new

 

book, complete with dust jacket.

 

 

 

Anyway, I just finished reading it - what a story!!!! By the time

 

the convoy reaches Utah, in the book, you begin to wonder How'd They

 

Do That!!! It's a totally unbelievable story. We read various

 

stories of early cross-country drives back to 1900 and most read like

 

"we breezed right thru with no problems!!" This one tells of trucks

 

sinking to the axles and beyond, crossing mountain ranges with 2 feet

 

between the outer wheels and drops of several hundred feet. It tells

 

of the efforts of the Lincoln Highway Association to build a

 

trans-continental interstate highway and tells about the in-fighting

 

and politics involved by cities trying to get on the Highway.

 

 

 

A great story for anyone with an interest in how it was in the

 

pioneer days.

 

 

 

Happy and Safe Travels - read this book and even the worst motel

 

will seem like paradise!!! LOL

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yes, alibris.com is a good place to find books at

 

reasonable prices - I had forgotten about them.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

 

 

--- Mike Ward <flyboy1946@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> If anyone else is interested in getting a copy of

 

> this book you can also find it at

 

> www.alibris.com<http://www.alibris.com/>. According

 

> to their web site they have 288 copies available.

 

> The starting price is $2.95 plus shipping and they

 

> have 28 copies at that price. No wait, I guess it's

 

> now 27 copies - I just bought one.

 

>

 

> Mike

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: Alex Burr<mailto:hester_nec@yahoo.com>

 

> To:

 

>

 

<mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

>

 

> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:30 PM

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] American Road - The book

 

>

 

>

 

> After reading Denny's revue of "American Road -

 

> The Story of An Epic

 

> Transcontinental Journey At the Dawn of the Motor

 

> Age", to give it

 

> it's full title, by Pete Davies I went looking for

 

> a copy.

 

>

 

> I went over to Amazon.com and ran a search -

 

> wound up finding a copy

 

> for $2.90, plus shipping, from an on-line

 

> bookstore in Philadelphia,

 

> BookBrothers.com.

 

>

 

> At that price I ordered it - figured it would

 

> probably come in bits

 

> and pieces. Imagine my pleasure and surprise to

 

> find I had a like new

 

> book, complete with dust jacket.

 

>

 

> Anyway, I just finished reading it - what a

 

> story!!!! By the time

 

> the convoy reaches Utah, in the book, you begin to

 

> wonder How'd They

 

> Do That!!! It's a totally unbelievable story. We

 

> read various

 

> stories of early cross-country drives back to 1900

 

> and most read like

 

> "we breezed right thru with no problems!!" This

 

> one tells of trucks

 

> sinking to the axles and beyond, crossing mountain

 

> ranges with 2 feet

 

> between the outer wheels and drops of several

 

> hundred feet. It tells

 

> of the efforts of the Lincoln Highway Association

 

> to build a

 

> trans-continental interstate highway and tells

 

> about the in-fighting

 

> and politics involved by cities trying to get on

 

> the Highway.

 

>

 

> A great story for anyone with an interest in how

 

> it was in the

 

> pioneer days.

 

>

 

> Happy and Safe Travels - read this book and even

 

> the worst motel

 

> will seem like paradise!!! LOL

 

>

 

> Hudsonly,

 

> Alex B

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

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Mike, back in June in the Route 66 group you pointed out a reprint of a 1913

 

book of AZ maps on eBay. I put in a bid but didn't pursue it when other

 

group members jumped in. Instead, I went to Alibris and bought a copy for

 

7.45 + 3.49 S&H. I just checked and see that the one on eBay went for 9.50 +

 

3.50 S&H. Alibris is a good outfit.

 

 

 

Alex, glad you enjoyed the book. I'm extra happy that you didn't buy the

 

book on my recommendation then hate it;-)

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: Mike Ward [mailto:flyboy1946@hotmail.com]

 

> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 8:46 PM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] American Road - The book

 

>

 

>

 

> If anyone else is interested in getting a copy of this book you

 

> can also find it at www.alibris.com<http://www.alibris.com/>.

 

> According to their web site they have 288 copies available. The

 

> starting price is $2.95 plus shipping and they have 28 copies at

 

> that price. No wait, I guess it's now 27 copies - I just bought one.

 

>

 

> Mike

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: Alex Burr<mailto:hester_nec@yahoo.com>

 

> To: <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:30 PM

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] American Road - The book

 

>

 

>

 

> After reading Denny's revue of "American Road - The Story of An Epic

 

> Transcontinental Journey At the Dawn of the Motor Age", to give it

 

> it's full title, by Pete Davies I went looking for a copy.

 

>

 

> I went over to Amazon.com and ran a search - wound up finding a copy

 

> for $2.90, plus shipping, from an on-line bookstore in Philadelphia,

 

> BookBrothers.com.

 

>

 

> At that price I ordered it - figured it would probably come in bits

 

> and pieces. Imagine my pleasure and surprise to find I had a like new

 

> book, complete with dust jacket.

 

>

 

> Anyway, I just finished reading it - what a story!!!! By the time

 

> the convoy reaches Utah, in the book, you begin to wonder How'd They

 

> Do That!!! It's a totally unbelievable story. We read various

 

> stories of early cross-country drives back to 1900 and most read like

 

> "we breezed right thru with no problems!!" This one tells of trucks

 

> sinking to the axles and beyond, crossing mountain ranges with 2 feet

 

> between the outer wheels and drops of several hundred feet. It tells

 

> of the efforts of the Lincoln Highway Association to build a

 

> trans-continental interstate highway and tells about the in-fighting

 

> and politics involved by cities trying to get on the Highway.

 

>

 

> A great story for anyone with an interest in how it was in the

 

> pioneer days.

 

>

 

> Happy and Safe Travels - read this book and even the worst motel

 

> will seem like paradise!!! LOL

 

>

 

> Hudsonly,

 

> Alex B

 

>

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That is very cool!! I like it!

 

 

 

Back when, I learned how to make "virtual" neon signs using a photo

 

editing program. I learned the technique using Paint Shop Pro, but I

 

could do the same using Photoshop as well.

 

 

 

Here's the one I made for Pat's "Road Maven" site:

 

 

 

http://www.roadtripmemories.com/roadmaven/index.htm

 

 

 

 

 

Jennifer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> "neon" messages and generate a virtual picture of them:)

 

>

 

> http://www.glassgiant.com/misc_neon_sign.php

 

>

 

> She made a few signs for me, like "OLD ROAD FANATIC" and "IT'S

 

> FOOTBALL TIME IN TENNESSEE":) The only problem I've found is it's

 

> hard to distinguish H from K and U from V. Oh well, it's still fun:)

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Last night I got home from the San Bernardino Rendezvous and the Historic 66

 

Federation gathering. On the way there I stopped in Jerome and drove

 

Sixty-Six from Winslow. Then I passed through Joshua Tree and drove the most

 

western bit of US-60 on the way back. After a late night arrival and a day

 

back at work I've finally got that last leg posted.

 

 

 

All ten days of the trip are now up at

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/rt66fest05

 

 

 

Denny Gibson

 

Cincinnati, OH

 

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I want to save the old also but we must be at least reasonable how we

 

do it. If the account is true, then the old historic motel could not

 

attract enough people to make it even at a low rate of $31 a night.

 

Too many rooms went unrented so it was sold to a developer. Now so

 

many want to save it but why didn't they stay there? If the motel was

 

clean, then why was it unable to attract enough people to stay open

 

especially with its history.

 

 

 

I travel on 40 at least four times a year and I try to stay at the

 

older motels. First they are less expensive and to me they have that

 

old feel that I love. But too many are filthy and it becomes a chore

 

to find good clean old motels. If we all make an effort to stay in

 

them, not just on old 66 but across the country, we will be supporting

 

independent operators and the economic viability of the older motels.

 

 

 

Otherwise, they will be destroyed and the land used in a more

 

productive manner. To try to take away private property is really not

 

all that productive and to me using the force of government to force

 

an owner to be less productive is just wrong. The best way is to

 

support the independent motel operators that run the older motels.

 

Also, they are usually a good deal but even when the cost is the same,

 

we should favor them. They have a lot of character.

 

 

 

Gene

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Kreimendahl" <bpk@z...>

 

wrote:

 

>

 

> URL:

 

>

 

http://www.abqtrib.com/albq/nw_local/artic...4167013,00.html

 

>

 

> Mayor seeks to protect El Vado

 

> By Maggie Shepard and Erik Siemers

 

> Albuquerque Tribune Reporters

 

> October 18, 2005

 

>

 

> The way Mayor Martin Chavez describes it, El Vado Motel is a jewel.

 

>

 

> "Across the street is one of the finest pieces of architecture

 

coming from

 

> the Route 66 genre of motels," Chavez said Monday from the entrance

 

to the

 

> Albuquerque Aquarium near Central Avenue.

 

>

 

> Funny thing is, the guy buying the building thinks the opposite.

 

>

 

> "I think people are really disappointed when they travel for miles

 

to see

 

> it," said Richard Gonzales, who this week is signing the papers to

 

take over

 

> the building. "When they do see the structure, they're surprised

 

about how

 

> bad it is."

 

>

 

> It's a real-life story of one man's trash being another man's treasure.

 

>

 

> Chavez has sent letters to members of the city's Environmental Planning

 

> Commission asking them to vote against Gonzales' request to change

 

zoning so

 

> he can turn the building into luxury town homes.

 

>

 

> Chavez sent the letters as a private citizen, he said, not as mayor.

 

The EPC

 

> meets Thursday.

 

>

 

> "It's the best example of Pueblo Deco art in the city," Chavez said.

 

>

 

> Gonzales plans to close the 68-year-old motel near the biopark Nov.

 

1 and

 

> build $400,000-$600,000 town homes.

 

>

 

> But Chavez calls the motel beautiful. Route 66 enthusiasts consider

 

it the

 

> purest surviving historical motel in Albuquerque.

 

>

 

> Gonzales admits the building has some qualities Chavez describes. At

 

least

 

> it did.

 

>

 

> "This is an old structure," he said. "It's had a lot of neglect. Old

 

> properties are hard to maintain."

 

>

 

> El Vado is not on the city's historic registry, but Chavez said it

 

is on a

 

> national list.

 

>

 

> On Monday he filed for an application to make it both a state and

 

national

 

> historic landmark.

 

>

 

> The motel was built in 1937 by a former Waldorf-Astoria bellboy. The

 

white

 

> adobe building announces itself to passers-by with a six-colored

 

American

 

> Indian head.

 

>

 

> Gonzales said he hasn't decided the fate of the sign.

 

>

 

> Former motel owner Sam Kassam ran El Vado for 15 years, renting

 

single rooms

 

> for about $31.

 

>

 

> He said he sold it to Gonzales for an undisclosed amount because the

 

> business wasn't bringing in a profit.

 

>

 

> Chavez said he wants to see the motel turn a profit again. His first

 

avenue

 

> is to work with Gonzales, he said, but he'll consider working with other

 

> developers or using the city's power of eminent domain.

 

>

 

> Gonzales' application before the EPC seeks to change the zoning from

 

> commercial to residential, though he said he can go ahead with the town

 

> homes without the change.

 

>

 

> WHAT'S NEXT

 

>

 

> What: Environmental Planning Commission

 

>

 

> Why: Hearing on rezoning El Vado Motel property

 

>

 

> When: 8:30 a.m. Thursday

 

>

 

> Where: Plaza del Sol basement hearing room, 600 Second St. N.W.

 

>

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Usually I stay in Tucumcari but I will make an effort to stay at the

 

Vega -I assume it is in the town of Vega just west of Amarillo, makes

 

sense and for me it is a good place to stop. After Amarillo, I am

 

ready to call it a day and Tucumcari just takes forever to reach and

 

the road is very long. Thanks for the tip.

 

Gene

 

 

 

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> Well, the Most Endangered Place I know of is anywhere I have been

 

offered a

 

> job......seems to me companies are closing left and right.....right

 

after

 

> they hire me....must be some kind of Writer's Flu Bug........

 

>

 

> Okay, that wise-guy comment made (sorry, I couldn't resist)....

 

> One great place that I know need help is The Vega Motel in Texas.

 

>

 

> It's a classic Route 66 motel....right in the middle of the trip between

 

> Chicago and LA (okay, okay, Adrian, TX....just down the road, is the

 

exact

 

> middle).....classic courtyard motel.....comfy chairs in the middle

 

grounds

 

> to sit in and share road stories....and heck, The Hickory Inn is right

 

> across the street. Biggest pancakes on Route 66.....PIZZA size.......

 

>

 

> I KNOW Theresa and her hubby need help to keep it going........and to do

 

> restoration.

 

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> The question, I guess, is...is it historic enough?

 

>

 

> More thoughts later.....

 

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You make good points, Gene.

 

 

 

However, we can trace the decline of El Vado's viability to a change

 

in ownership about five or so years ago. The previous owner did a good

 

job keeping up his property and drawing travelers. But he had to sell

 

out and move out of town because of what was termed to me as a family

 

emergency.

 

 

 

The subsequent owner didn't do as good a job managing and maintaining,

 

and the ratings promptly went down in editions of the Route 66 Dining

 

and Lodging Guide. The decline was so bad that it was either delisted

 

or was on the verge ... I don't remember for sure. Either way, it was bad.

 

 

 

Strangely enough, when the motel was put up for sale, it went up in

 

quality again. No doubt the owner was trying to put a best face on the

 

building to potential buyers.

 

 

 

I think the point I'm trying to make that a motel's success is mostly

 

attributable to the dedication and smarts of its owner. The Blue

 

Swallow Motel declined in quality because of the advanced age and poor

 

health of longtime owner Lillian Redman. But Hilda and Dale Bakke

 

bought it, refurbished it into immaculate condition, and raised the

 

room rates. They now have a profitable business (I've seen the balance

 

sheets) and a cherished destination.

 

 

 

And El Vado doesn't have to strictly be a motel. I can be living

 

quarters for a small artist's colony (which has been done in other

 

cities). Or the rooms can be converted into small arts and craft

 

stores (like I saw with old tourist cabins in a small town in

 

southwest Oklahoma).

 

 

 

There are too many options to give up on the old girl yet.

 

 

 

And I assume you're talking about the possible usage of eminent domain

 

to seize El Vado. I hold a dim view with eminent domain for the most

 

part. But when you're talking about a reasonably well-maintained and

 

preserved property that's on the National Register of Historic Places

 

and is threatened by development, then I think using eminent domain

 

"for the public good" is appropriate.

 

 

 

Ron Warnick

 

Tulsa, OK

 

www.route66news.org

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "genoman45" <genoman45@y...> wrote:

 

>

 

> I want to save the old also but we must be at least reasonable how we

 

> do it. If the account is true, then the old historic motel could not

 

> attract enough people to make it even at a low rate of $31 a night.

 

> Too many rooms went unrented so it was sold to a developer. Now so

 

> many want to save it but why didn't they stay there? If the motel was

 

> clean, then why was it unable to attract enough people to stay open

 

> especially with its history.

 

>

 

> I travel on 40 at least four times a year and I try to stay at the

 

> older motels. First they are less expensive and to me they have that

 

> old feel that I love. But too many are filthy and it becomes a chore

 

> to find good clean old motels. If we all make an effort to stay in

 

> them, not just on old 66 but across the country, we will be supporting

 

> independent operators and the economic viability of the older motels.

 

>

 

> Otherwise, they will be destroyed and the land used in a more

 

> productive manner. To try to take away private property is really not

 

> all that productive and to me using the force of government to force

 

> an owner to be less productive is just wrong. The best way is to

 

> support the independent motel operators that run the older motels.

 

> Also, they are usually a good deal but even when the cost is the same,

 

> we should favor them. They have a lot of character.

 

>

 

> Gene

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It will be interesting if an eminent domain argument is used...as most

 

takings involve the goal of a large cash benefit for the city, the "public

 

benefit" of doing this will have to be shown to be extreme...I think we make

 

good arguments; I hope the council does...I wish I knew more about the

 

actual plan, because if this dude is seeking to rezone his plot, that is a

 

key factor in triggering a spot zoning argument...

 

Whoever is speaking, remember they are going to limit your time....outline

 

what you want to say and how saving the motel will benefit "the health,

 

safety, and welfare of the community." Stick to how the El Vado benefits

 

Albuquerque; you gotta talk about Route 66, obviously but I would not spend

 

too much time with long romantic quotes--you won't have the time...remember:

 

your ARE asking these people to do something that it wouldn't ordinarily do:

 

put his cash cow plans he wants to follow on his OWN propery aside to save

 

an old motel (not my sentiments obviously but I gotta think that is what you

 

will be hitting)...like it or not, the LAW (I may be one but don't have to

 

like it), is based on property rights, and peoples right to free and

 

untrammeled use to the same...you will be the "kick in the butt" reminder

 

that the consequences in this case are dire--Route 66 is in many ways "the

 

next national park". We saved National Park Lands because the significance

 

of what is there is too great not to preserve it as a reminder of what was

 

and for future generations to enjoy...that is why we are trying to save the

 

El Vado and if we do, hopefully more places like it....good luck to all who

 

attend the meeting.

 

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To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:12 AM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: ABQ Tribune: Mayor seeks to protect El Vado

 

 

 

 

 

> You make good points, Gene.

 

>

 

> However, we can trace the decline of El Vado's viability to a change

 

> in ownership about five or so years ago. The previous owner did a good

 

> job keeping up his property and drawing travelers. But he had to sell

 

> out and move out of town because of what was termed to me as a family

 

> emergency.

 

>

 

> The subsequent owner didn't do as good a job managing and maintaining,

 

> and the ratings promptly went down in editions of the Route 66 Dining

 

> and Lodging Guide. The decline was so bad that it was either delisted

 

> or was on the verge ... I don't remember for sure. Either way, it was bad.

 

>

 

> Strangely enough, when the motel was put up for sale, it went up in

 

> quality again. No doubt the owner was trying to put a best face on the

 

> building to potential buyers.

 

>

 

> I think the point I'm trying to make that a motel's success is mostly

 

> attributable to the dedication and smarts of its owner. The Blue

 

> Swallow Motel declined in quality because of the advanced age and poor

 

> health of longtime owner Lillian Redman. But Hilda and Dale Bakke

 

> bought it, refurbished it into immaculate condition, and raised the

 

> room rates. They now have a profitable business (I've seen the balance

 

> sheets) and a cherished destination.

 

>

 

> And El Vado doesn't have to strictly be a motel. I can be living

 

> quarters for a small artist's colony (which has been done in other

 

> cities). Or the rooms can be converted into small arts and craft

 

> stores (like I saw with old tourist cabins in a small town in

 

> southwest Oklahoma).

 

>

 

> There are too many options to give up on the old girl yet.

 

>

 

> And I assume you're talking about the possible usage of eminent domain

 

> to seize El Vado. I hold a dim view with eminent domain for the most

 

> part. But when you're talking about a reasonably well-maintained and

 

> preserved property that's on the National Register of Historic Places

 

> and is threatened by development, then I think using eminent domain

 

> "for the public good" is appropriate.

 

>

 

> Ron Warnick

 

> Tulsa, OK

 

> www.route66news.org

 

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> > I want to save the old also but we must be at least reasonable how we

 

> > do it. If the account is true, then the old historic motel could not

 

> > attract enough people to make it even at a low rate of $31 a night.

 

> > Too many rooms went unrented so it was sold to a developer. Now so

 

> > many want to save it but why didn't they stay there? If the motel was

 

> > clean, then why was it unable to attract enough people to stay open

 

> > especially with its history.

 

> >

 

> > I travel on 40 at least four times a year and I try to stay at the

 

> > older motels. First they are less expensive and to me they have that

 

> > old feel that I love. But too many are filthy and it becomes a chore

 

> > to find good clean old motels. If we all make an effort to stay in

 

> > them, not just on old 66 but across the country, we will be supporting

 

> > independent operators and the economic viability of the older motels.

 

> >

 

> > Otherwise, they will be destroyed and the land used in a more

 

> > productive manner. To try to take away private property is really not

 

> > all that productive and to me using the force of government to force

 

> > an owner to be less productive is just wrong. The best way is to

 

> > support the independent motel operators that run the older motels.

 

> > Also, they are usually a good deal but even when the cost is the same,

 

> > we should favor them. They have a lot of character.

 

> >

 

> > Gene

 

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Guest Brian Kreimendahl

http://www.abqjournal.com/news/metro/400246metro10-20-05.htm

 

 

 

Thursday, October 20, 2005

 

El Vado Owner Open to Preserving Motel

 

Journal Staff Report

 

 

 

El Vado Motel owner Richard L. Gonzales says he will ask that his

 

zoning request be postponed so there is time to explore the possible

 

preservation of the motel.

 

 

 

Gonzales has planned to build townhomes at the site at Central and New

 

York near the BioPark.

 

 

 

Mayor Martin Chavez said this week he will oppose a zoning change that

 

would clear the way for the project. He offered to work with Gonzales to

 

find a way to preserve the structure, which is on the National Register of

 

Historic Places.

 

 

 

Gonzales said Wednesday he's open to discussing the possibilities,

 

which could include saving part of El Vado while also building townhomes.

 

 

 

"This doesn't change my intent to build townhomes there, but I'm

 

willing to compromise with a portion of the property," he said.

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <rudkip@s...> wrote:

 

>

 

> It will be interesting if an eminent domain argument is used...as

 

most

 

> takings involve the goal of a large cash benefit for the city,

 

the "public

 

> benefit" of doing this will have to be shown to be extreme.

 

 

 

 

 

I believe that the distinguishing aspect about eminent domain in

 

this case is that the city, if it did exercise eminent domain, would

 

be doing so with the intent of preventing the property's

 

destruction. By contrast, in most eminent domain cases (the most

 

publicized ones, anyway) it's about destroying property.

 

 

 

As was mentioned, someone who can lovingly invest in El Vado

 

hopefully will make it profitable as an operating motel. As Ron

 

stated, there are alternative uses (my thought was possibly a

 

welcome / visitors center / mini-museum). Even if an alternate use

 

was not specifically a money-making business, it would act as a draw

 

to the city anyway, which would yield the ripple effect of increased

 

financial gains to other businesses, taxes on the money tourists

 

spend, etc.

 

 

 

If Albuquerque allows El Vado to be destroyed, others are sure to

 

follow. I'm not interested in driving down Central Avenue to see

 

Staples, Best Buy, Linens n' Things, McDonald's, Walgreens, and so

 

on. Every major area has all these same businesses, and while I

 

don't believe that any of them are inherently evil entities, I think

 

that incorporating them into our landscape could have been done

 

without creating cookie cutter cities which are indistinguishable

 

from one another.

 

 

 

Jennifer

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Guest rwarn17588

By the request of El Vada Motel's owner, the rezoning request was

 

deferred for 60 days. The next Planning Commission meeting is Dec. 15.

 

 

 

Media reports say the owner is going to try to work out a compromise

 

in the meantime, including keeping part of the motel and building

 

townhouses on other parts of the property.

 

 

 

So El Vado Motel is safe for the time being.

 

 

 

Emily Priddy, who is in Albuquerque, is going to try to provide more

 

details later.

 

 

 

Congratulations, folks. Your letters and e-mails to the city

 

definitely made an impact.

 

 

 

Ron Warnick

 

Tulsa, OK

 

www.route66news.org

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Alex, I have made that trip from El Paso so many times that I think I

 

could do it in my sleep - the value of the trip and what is available

 

to see depends on the amount of time you have to make the trip.

 

 

 

Here are some of my favorites laid out in the order you drive towards

 

Loas Angeles along with web sites for more information:

 

 

 

In Las Cruces, New Mexico, you will go by Old Mesilla - Confederate

 

Capitol during the Civil War - for awhile anyway - the place where

 

Billy the Kid was tried for murder - a great stop - quaint plaza lots

 

of boutiques and unique shopping. A great place to eat is the old

 

Butterfiled Stage stop La Posta!

 

{http://www.oldmesilla.org/}

 

 

 

A stop at Deming, New Mexico and the Rock Hound State Park is a half

 

day for outdoors types - hiking in the park and a real nice small

 

museum downtown in the old Deming Armory.

 

 

 

The Saguaro National Park in the Tucson, Arizona area is fantastic -

 

there are two parts of the park and if you have the time, both are

 

worth a stop - walking trails and driving routes are available in

 

both areas. You will see Saguaro all the way to the California border.

 

{http://www.nps.gov/sagu/}

 

 

 

Of course there is always the Old Tucson film site - great for kids -

 

this is one of the area sites I have yet to visit.

 

{http://www.oldtucson.com/}

 

 

 

I enjoy a stop at a mission south of Tucson - San Xavier Del Bac.

 

{http://emol.org/tucson/sanxavier/)

 

 

 

In Arizon, you pass right by the Casa Grande National Monument.

 

{http://www.nps.gov/cagr/}

 

A great stop in Phoenix is the famous Heard Museum.

 

{http://www.heard.org/}

 

 

 

Near the Arizona/California border you will come across the small

 

desert town of Quartzite - home of the US Camel Corps - you can even

 

visit the grave of the last Camel the Army had on duty before being

 

released to the wild. This is a unique place to visit - during the

 

winter it becomes the largest flea market in the USA.

 

{http://www.desertusa.com/Cities/az/quartzite.html}

 

 

 

Blythe, California - only a few miles from Quartzite, does not seem

 

like a very exotic place to stop, but, not far to the north is a

 

series of Indian monuments laid out on the ground know as Intaglios -

 

these are very large designs laid out on the ground in small rocks

 

placed to form patterns etched out of the desert - bring a camera and

 

watch where you step - these are fantastic.

 

{http://www.jqjacobs.net/southwest/blythe.html}

 

 

 

Also in Califonia, there is a great stop at Chiriaco Summit and the

 

General George S. Patton Museum. A nice place to grab a place to eat

 

at the summit.

 

{http://www.desertusa.com/mag99/feb/stories/paton.html}

 

 

 

In the Palm Springs area, you will go by Hadley's - a tradition of

 

unique fruit stand that has grown into an institution with date and

 

fruit items - I even had a buffalo burger there.

 

{http://www.hadleys.com/}

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Alex" <designkat@h...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Hello everyone,

 

>

 

> I will be having to drive from Los Angeles to Austin, Texas in early

 

> November and I was wondering if there are any interesting things I

 

> could see on my way there. I will be on Hwy 10 for most of the trip.

 

>

 

> Thanks,

 

> Alex

 

>

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Then there is Greenwich,NY (Green-wich).

 

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It sure is! One thing I've learned is that place names can really

 

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Thames River in Connecticut: pronounced like it looks, not "Tims"

 

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Michael Wallis gave us a really fascinating postcard of Radiator

 

Springs, the fictional Route 66 town featured in the upcoming Pixar

 

movie, "Cars."

 

 

 

With his permission, I scanned the postcard and have close-up excerpts

 

of it on my Web site. I think you'll be enthralled at what you'll see.

 

The world that Pixar has created just amazes me, and yet it's so

 

evocative of the real Route 66 at the same time.

 

 

 

The link is here:

 

 

 

http://rwarn17588.wordpress.com/2006/01/10...-cars-postcard/

 

 

 

Ron Warnick

 

Tulsa, OK

 

www.route66news.org

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