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I'm sure you'll give me a great tour someday and I'm also sure that you knew

 

I wasn't whining. But I thought I ought to post this denial for any who

 

thought I was. It's not that I'm above whining but I'll try to make certain

 

there's no doubt when I start;-)

 

 

 

An Afton visit doesn't seem likely this year but I've been surprised by

 

opportunity before.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: [mailto:laurelrk66@aol.com]

 

> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:27 AM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Laurel is featured in Day 8 AAA Story

 

>

 

> In a message dated 5/25/2005 10:06:10 PM Central Daylight

 

> Time, denny@dennygibson.com writes:

 

>

 

>

 

> > A nice bit of well deserved PR.

 

>

 

> Thank you, Denny. The guys from the AAA were great and we

 

> had a nice

 

> visit. I'm envious of their job!

 

> >

 

> > Hey, someday I might even get there when you're open:-)

 

>

 

> The next time you point your car in this direction, just let

 

> me know you're

 

> on the way and I promise I'll be open and ready to meet you,

 

> greet you, and

 

> give you a guided tour of the mess.

 

>

 

> Laurel

 

> www.PostcardsFromTheRoad.net

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Guest Denny Gibson

Yesterday I made a short off road excursion (on foot) to peek at the long

 

gone town of Tadmor, Ohio. It's not exactly a road trip and I'm sure that

 

only a few automobiles were ever driven over the bridges there but I thought

 

a few group members might be interested. The National Road once bridged both

 

the Great Miami River and the Miami & Erie canal here but I only found the

 

abutments for the canal bridge. A rainy day made the area pretty wet so I

 

did not go exploring for any remaining signs of the river bridge.

 

 

 

Some "roadless" photos at

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/oddment/tadmor/index.htm

 

 

 

 

 

--Denny

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Guest Bob Reynolds

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...> wrote:

 

> I finally got to your finale and see your end game included two of my

 

> favorite south Indiana towns, Columbus & Madison.

 

>

 

> I also visited your Dixie Highway albums and had my curiosity

 

tickled by the

 

> pictures of the Lexington "Starting Point" monument (s6450, DH-East,

 

27/30).

 

> Where is this located (street address)? Do you have any other info

 

on the

 

> monument? In particular, why a camel?

 

>

 

> Oh, by the way, now that I've quizzed you, nice pics.

 

>

 

> --Denny

 

>

 

Denny,

 

 

 

First off, my apologies for not replying to your earlier post

 

about your website. I have thoroughly enjoyed both your writeups and

 

photos. Thanks for sharing all the neat places you've found!

 

 

 

Now, as to the Lexington zero mile marker. It's on the grounds

 

of the Fayette County Court House. If my memory serves me well, it's

 

on highway 25, but details are a bit hazy. I took those pictures back

 

in 1987. My brother and I will be heading up that way the first

 

weekend in June and I intend to check out the Dixie Highway between

 

Richmond, KY and Cincinnati. Maybe I'll even find out the signifigance

 

of that freakin' camel:) There's a Dixie Highway writeup in the

 

works, one that will be sort of a composite of several different trips.

 

 

 

Another writeup I have in mind involves some places Susan, Kevin

 

Redden and I have found in the Maysville, KY area. Covered bridges,

 

old inns, movie theaters, and like that. I plan to be busier with the

 

newsgroup in the near future:)

 

 

 

Happy motoring,

 

 

 

Bob

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Don't know how many hours it is away, but I CAN tell you that in a few short

 

months, the Route 66 Association will be trekking from Litchfield IL to St.

 

Robert, MO for their 17th Annual Motor Tour...my understanding is that the Motel

 

at Meremac Caverns is nearly full! Hope you can join us: here's the scoop!

 

 

 

Join the Route 66 Association of Missouri as we celebrate "80 years on Route 66"

 

with our 17th Annual Motor Tour, September 8th, 9th, and 10th, 2006. This year's

 

tour will be an east-to-west run, starting in Litchfield, Illinois and ending in

 

St. Robert, Missouri.

 

 

 

The festivities will kick off on Friday, September 8th, with registration at the

 

Comfort Inn in Litchfield, Illinois. The motel, which is located at 1010 E.

 

Columbian Boulevard N. in Litchfield, has a block of rooms reserved which will

 

be available for a discounted rate of $60.00 per night. Call (217)324-9260 to

 

make your reservations, and be sure to mention you are with the Route 66

 

Association of Missouri Motor Tour to get the discounted rate. For those

 

arriving early, there will be some optional activities for the evening as well

 

as the normal roadie gathering in the registration area.

 

 

 

Tour registration will resume at 7:00 a.m. on Saturday, September 9th, and the

 

actual Motor Tour will depart the motel promptly at 8 a.m. There will be a poker

 

run, with hands costing $5 each, for tour participants to play as they travel

 

the route on Saturday, and poker hands will be available for purchase at

 

registration and before the Motor Tour leaves the motel Saturday morning. There

 

will be recommended stops along the tour route, but participants are encouraged

 

to make the tour at their own pace and select their own stops. Recommended stops

 

and other planned activities will be detailed in the Motor Tour Agenda Folder,

 

given out at the time of registration. All participants are, however, encouraged

 

to be at the Chain of Rocks Bridge, on the Illinois side promptly by 11:45 a.

 

m., so that the Motor Tour can drive, caravan-style, across the bridge from the

 

east (Illinois side) to the west (Missouri side).

 

 

 

Saturday night the Motor Tour will stay at Meramec Caverns at Staunton,

 

Missouri. All 32 rooms available at the Meramec Caverns Motel have been reserved

 

for the Motor Tour and will be held until August 15. Room rates will be $43.25

 

and $62.24, depending on the number of occupants and availability. Phone

 

(573)468-3166 or 1-800-676-6105 for reservations, and again, be sure to mention

 

you are with the Route 66 Association of Missouri Motor Tour to receive the

 

special rates. Other accommodations are available in nearby Sullivan and St.

 

Clair, Missouri, including the Baymont Inn in Sullivan (275 N. Service Road;

 

573-860-3333); and the Budget Lodging in St. Clair, (866 S. Outer Road;

 

1-800-958-4354). The Saturday evening meal will be an informal event, catered by

 

the Meramec Caverns Restaurant, and will be held in the restaurant in the park

 

headquarters.

 

 

 

Sunday's activities begin with a nondenominational worship service at 7:30 a.m.

 

on the Cave's park grounds. The Motor Tour will then proceed to Rolla, Missouri

 

promptly at 8:00 a.m. From Rolla, participants will travel on their own to the

 

Country Kitchen in St. Robert, Missouri, which will be the tour's final

 

destination. The Country Kitchen is located at 379 Highway Z (old 66, behind

 

McDonald's). Tour participants can purchase lunch there, and enjoy their

 

excellent buffet.

 

 

 

Final details, including times, planned activities, and directions, will be

 

detailed in the Motor Tour Agenda Folder, given to participants at registration.

 

 

 

For more information contact: Kip Welborn, (314)776-7385, rudkip@sbcglobal.net

 

or Jane Dippel, (314)843-7132, vestaon66@cs.com or the Route 66 Association of

 

Missouri's web site, www.missouri66.org .

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Guest Jim Michalek

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "rwarn17588" <rwarn17588@...>

 

wrote:

 

>

 

> Remember that thank-you list to people on Route 66 at the end of the

 

> "Cars" film? Well, Pixar e-mailed me the list:

 

>

 

> http://rwarn17588.wordpress.com/2006/06/13/pixars-route-66-

 

inspirations/

 

>

 

> Ron Warnick

 

> Tulsa, OK

 

> www.route66news.org

 

 

 

Walt Disney, like Route 66, started in Chicago and ended (well, his

 

life ended, but he lives on through his work) in Southern California.

 

Missouri and Kansas also figure in his professional development. I

 

wonder if Pixar won't play on that if they do a sequel to Cars?

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Sorry for the misspelling....as I recall for all the Tom Robbins fans out

 

there, Ivar's gets a mention in Still Life With Woodpecker...Tsingtao Kip

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: <drivewdave@aol.com>

 

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:02 AM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Keep Clam

 

 

 

 

 

> In a message dated 7/25/5 2:28:54 AM, you wrote:

 

>

 

> <<I am not real knowlegable in this area but there is a fish place in

 

Seattle

 

>

 

> called Ivor's (I believe it is on Puget Sound) which, if it is still there

 

>

 

> is very much worth experiencing...watching a bunch of people serve a

 

> bunch of people made it even more worthwhile! >>

 

>

 

> Dave in Seattle here, Ivar's is on Elliott Bay, Seattle's open or

 

unprotected

 

> harbor on Puget Sound and marine gateway to Alaska.

 

>

 

> Yes, Ivar's Acres of Clams on Pier 54 is very much worth experiencing,

 

> I have eaten there all my life since the early 50s. Ivar Haglund was a

 

local

 

> legend, there are plenty of stories about him. He always dressed like a

 

> ship captain with a blue cap and blue double breasted blazer with lots

 

> of brass buttons. Kip was no doubt writing about the popular takeout

 

> counter which was moved back from the sidewalk about fifteen feet

 

> in the 70s, before that it was right on the sidewalk and the crowds

 

> blocked foot traffic. When I was little I pulled myself up to the

 

stainless

 

> steel counter to see what was going on. Once in a while Ivar himself

 

> might pop through the kitchen door (which had a round window like

 

> a porthole) to keep an eye on things.

 

>

 

> The menu was/is a variety of seafood but we always got fish and chips,

 

> deepfried Alaska cod and french fries with tartar sauce and ketchup extra.

 

> We usually ate in the car, a dark blue 1950 Ford Custom Six two door sedan

 

> which was parked across the street (Alaska Way) under the still new

 

> Alaska Way Viaduct, a double deck structure which carried US 99

 

> above the waterfront. Later on the car was 1956 Chevy Bel Air

 

> cream and coppertone four door (with the trick gas filler

 

> behind the left taillight which pivoted down) then later a couple

 

> of Buicks, a 1962 Special and then the1963 LeSabre which I took

 

> out for spin this last Sunday. Also later on in the 60s Ivar's installed

 

> outdoor seating with overhead heating so when it's busy you might

 

> be in a group a several dozen greasy fingered diners.

 

>

 

> The way Ivar's serves a lot of food to a lot of people is like

 

> this, they run batches through the deep fryers so they take a

 

> whole bunch of fry orders at once and the individual customers

 

> settle up while the orders are cooking, the counterperson sets

 

> out some cardboard trays and adds the accessories like tartar

 

> and ketchup and drinks and so on (the menu board used to

 

> say men ordering more than one bowl of clam nectar must

 

> have permission from their wife) then when the food comes

 

> out of the fryer it goes right onto some other trays that the

 

> fry cook set out when they got the orders and away you go.

 

>

 

> In the old days every once in awhile a red star would be

 

> printed on the cash register receipt, sort of like a payout

 

> on a slot machine since this meant you that the food was

 

> free, I remember seeing this happen occasionally, they

 

> would ring a brass bell to celebrate, I don't know if they

 

> do this anymore, maybe someone 'out there' knows...

 

>

 

> If you order a regular fish and chips the counterperson yells

 

> out 'single!' to the fry cook, some time in the 80s I started

 

> ordering that way so now I ask for 'a single, two tartar, one

 

> ketchup.' The food is good as far as deep-fried food goes

 

> but it's the whole experience with the sights and sounds

 

> and smells that makes it special, being on saltwater

 

> where the traffic rumbles by overhead and large boat

 

> horns honk might put a whole new spin on your midwest

 

> frozen custard roadside parking lot dining experience.

 

>

 

> Though the takeout counter does lots of business Ivar's

 

> Acres of Clams is also a large midscale restaurant,

 

> linen, carpeting, fine wines, grilled salmon etc.

 

> We ate there a few times on special dressup occasions,

 

> kids were given crayons and a thick paper cutout of

 

> an oldstyle diving helmet that became a mask with a rubber

 

> band and eyeholes.

 

>

 

> But the quintessential Ivar's meal is alfresco on the pier where

 

> you can throw a french fry at a seagull who will catch it midair,

 

> the sitdown restaurant is indoor only but with fine views of

 

> the nearby fireboats and ferryboats.

 

>

 

> Ivar's remains a constant on the evolving waterfront, the old

 

> warehouses are long gone or converted to retail, now container

 

> cranes dominate the skyline as do the gargantuan cruise ships

 

> visiting on weekends between Alaska trips, upscale condos are

 

> spreading like a rash and it's all so damn nice that sometimes

 

> it makes me want to puke. The viaduct is an earthquake disaster

 

> waiting to happen, fifty years old and frail. Nowdays a good portion

 

> of the population has no idea who Ivar was since they are either

 

> too young or moved here from somewhere else like the midwest

 

> or California so they could be in a 'most livable' city, a curse.

 

>

 

> By the way Kip on my map about the only similarity between Ivar's

 

> and the frozen custard drive-in in St. Louis is their iconic status,

 

> maybe your comparison was in the volume of food they crank out,

 

> for what it's worth 99 is 66 inverted so they share that too.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Happy Motoring, Dave

 

>

 

> P.S. and as Ivar often said, Keep Clam...

 

>

 

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Where was this place in Columbia? My mom went to school at the Univ. of Mo.

 

in the 40's...any addl info you have would be great...Tsingtao Kip

 

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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 6:13 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Pete's Cafe

 

 

 

 

 

> Newbie here, wishing to share s memory or two of old 66. I remember

 

> in the early '50's driving through Missouri for miles looking

 

> at the red and black diamond shaped signs that announced "Pete's Cafe"

 

> in Columbia, MO. Our juices were flowing in hopes of a scrumptious

 

> meal at Pete's. As Betty davis would say, "This place is a dump,

 

> what a dump." It was, too, but Pete's Cafe provided my family with

 

> a source of laughter for many years to follow. I drove by Pete's

 

> Cafe for many years and always stopped---------usually for just a

 

> coke----never to eat.

 

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> Jack Smith

 

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Guest Larry Kinsey

I thought Pete's Cafe was in Booneville.

 

 

 

Larry

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At 06:47 AM 7/26/2005 -0500, you wrote:

 

>Where was this place in Columbia? My mom went to school at the Univ. of Mo.

 

>in the 40's...any addl info you have would be great...Tsingtao Kip

 

>----- Original Message -----

 

>From: "oldman412000" <oldman412000@yahoo.com>

 

>To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

>Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 6:13 PM

 

>Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Pete's Cafe

 

>

 

>

 

> > Newbie here, wishing to share s memory or two of old 66. I remember

 

> > in the early '50's driving through Missouri for miles looking

 

> > at the red and black diamond shaped signs that announced "Pete's Cafe"

 

> > in Columbia, MO. Our juices were flowing in hopes of a scrumptious

 

> > meal at Pete's. As Betty davis would say, "This place is a dump,

 

> > what a dump." It was, too, but Pete's Cafe provided my family with

 

> > a source of laughter for many years to follow. I drove by Pete's

 

> > Cafe for many years and always stopped---------usually for just a

 

> > coke----never to eat.

 

> >

 

> > Jack Smith

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

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Guest Denny Gibson

I read "Still Life..." long before I had ever been to Seattle or I might

 

have caught that. I love Robbins' work and your note prompted me to check in

 

on him. I see that I'm ten years and two novels behind. Thanks for the

 

wakeup call.

 

 

 

My favorite TR quote:

 

"Human beings were invented by water as a device for transporting itself

 

from one place to another."

 

from "Another Roadside Attraction".

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: [mailto:rudkip@sbcglobal.net]

 

> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:36 AM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Keep Clam

 

>

 

>

 

> Sorry for the misspelling....as I recall for all the Tom Robbins fans out

 

> there, Ivar's gets a mention in Still Life With Woodpecker...Tsingtao Kip

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: <drivewdave@aol.com>

 

> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:02 AM

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Keep Clam

 

>

 

>

 

> > In a message dated 7/25/5 2:28:54 AM, you wrote:

 

> >

 

> > <<I am not real knowlegable in this area but there is a fish place in

 

> Seattle

 

> >

 

> > called Ivor's (I believe it is on Puget Sound) which, if it is

 

> still there

 

> >

 

> > is very much worth experiencing...watching a bunch of people serve a

 

> > bunch of people made it even more worthwhile! >>

 

> >

 

> > Dave in Seattle here, Ivar's is on Elliott Bay, Seattle's open or

 

> unprotected

 

> > harbor on Puget Sound and marine gateway to Alaska.

 

> >

 

> > Yes, Ivar's Acres of Clams on Pier 54 is very much worth experiencing,

 

> > I have eaten there all my life since the early 50s. Ivar Haglund was a

 

> local

 

> > legend, there are plenty of stories about him. He always dressed like a

 

> > ship captain with a blue cap and blue double breasted blazer with lots

 

> > of brass buttons. Kip was no doubt writing about the popular takeout

 

> > counter which was moved back from the sidewalk about fifteen feet

 

> > in the 70s, before that it was right on the sidewalk and the crowds

 

> > blocked foot traffic. When I was little I pulled myself up to the

 

> stainless

 

> > steel counter to see what was going on. Once in a while Ivar himself

 

> > might pop through the kitchen door (which had a round window like

 

> > a porthole) to keep an eye on things.

 

> >

 

> > The menu was/is a variety of seafood but we always got fish and chips,

 

> > deepfried Alaska cod and french fries with tartar sauce and

 

> ketchup extra.

 

> > We usually ate in the car, a dark blue 1950 Ford Custom Six two

 

> door sedan

 

> > which was parked across the street (Alaska Way) under the still new

 

> > Alaska Way Viaduct, a double deck structure which carried US 99

 

> > above the waterfront. Later on the car was 1956 Chevy Bel Air

 

> > cream and coppertone four door (with the trick gas filler

 

> > behind the left taillight which pivoted down) then later a couple

 

> > of Buicks, a 1962 Special and then the1963 LeSabre which I took

 

> > out for spin this last Sunday. Also later on in the 60s Ivar's installed

 

> > outdoor seating with overhead heating so when it's busy you might

 

> > be in a group a several dozen greasy fingered diners.

 

> >

 

> > The way Ivar's serves a lot of food to a lot of people is like

 

> > this, they run batches through the deep fryers so they take a

 

> > whole bunch of fry orders at once and the individual customers

 

> > settle up while the orders are cooking, the counterperson sets

 

> > out some cardboard trays and adds the accessories like tartar

 

> > and ketchup and drinks and so on (the menu board used to

 

> > say men ordering more than one bowl of clam nectar must

 

> > have permission from their wife) then when the food comes

 

> > out of the fryer it goes right onto some other trays that the

 

> > fry cook set out when they got the orders and away you go.

 

> >

 

> > In the old days every once in awhile a red star would be

 

> > printed on the cash register receipt, sort of like a payout

 

> > on a slot machine since this meant you that the food was

 

> > free, I remember seeing this happen occasionally, they

 

> > would ring a brass bell to celebrate, I don't know if they

 

> > do this anymore, maybe someone 'out there' knows...

 

> >

 

> > If you order a regular fish and chips the counterperson yells

 

> > out 'single!' to the fry cook, some time in the 80s I started

 

> > ordering that way so now I ask for 'a single, two tartar, one

 

> > ketchup.' The food is good as far as deep-fried food goes

 

> > but it's the whole experience with the sights and sounds

 

> > and smells that makes it special, being on saltwater

 

> > where the traffic rumbles by overhead and large boat

 

> > horns honk might put a whole new spin on your midwest

 

> > frozen custard roadside parking lot dining experience.

 

> >

 

> > Though the takeout counter does lots of business Ivar's

 

> > Acres of Clams is also a large midscale restaurant,

 

> > linen, carpeting, fine wines, grilled salmon etc.

 

> > We ate there a few times on special dressup occasions,

 

> > kids were given crayons and a thick paper cutout of

 

> > an oldstyle diving helmet that became a mask with a rubber

 

> > band and eyeholes.

 

> >

 

> > But the quintessential Ivar's meal is alfresco on the pier where

 

> > you can throw a french fry at a seagull who will catch it midair,

 

> > the sitdown restaurant is indoor only but with fine views of

 

> > the nearby fireboats and ferryboats.

 

> >

 

> > Ivar's remains a constant on the evolving waterfront, the old

 

> > warehouses are long gone or converted to retail, now container

 

> > cranes dominate the skyline as do the gargantuan cruise ships

 

> > visiting on weekends between Alaska trips, upscale condos are

 

> > spreading like a rash and it's all so damn nice that sometimes

 

> > it makes me want to puke. The viaduct is an earthquake disaster

 

> > waiting to happen, fifty years old and frail. Nowdays a good portion

 

> > of the population has no idea who Ivar was since they are either

 

> > too young or moved here from somewhere else like the midwest

 

> > or California so they could be in a 'most livable' city, a curse.

 

> >

 

> > By the way Kip on my map about the only similarity between Ivar's

 

> > and the frozen custard drive-in in St. Louis is their iconic status,

 

> > maybe your comparison was in the volume of food they crank out,

 

> > for what it's worth 99 is 66 inverted so they share that too.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Happy Motoring, Dave

 

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> > P.S. and as Ivar often said, Keep Clam...

 

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Hi all...I'm happy to report we've now surpassed 1,000 members here

 

on the American Road Yahoo Group. With the influx of new members over

 

the last 4 weeks, some of you may not be aware that American Road is

 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:33 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] 1,000+ Members....

 

 

 

 

 

Hi all...I'm happy to report we've now surpassed 1,000 members here

 

on the American Road Yahoo Group.

 

 

 

 

 

Wow! The List was shown as having 268 on the ads.

 

What an expansion!

 

 

 

Peter H. Ten Eyck

 

Rhode Island

 

 

 

 

 

With the influx of new members over

 

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And a fine magazine it is!!! Keep up the great work

 

folks - enjoy each and every issue. Only problem is

 

it's not long enough!!!!!! But, then again, it would

 

cost a fortune to send out a thousand pages or so

 

every issue, wouldn't it. :>(

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

 

 

--- "Pat B." <roadmaven@aol.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> Hi all...I'm happy to report we've now surpassed

 

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Well folks we are getting into the busy events season and are looking for

 

Authors/Artists/Associations/Craftspeople to join us at these events.

 

 

 

Although there are many events planned over the next few months and they all

 

deserve our support the ones I am addressing today take place in California

 

and Arizona. On September 9 & 10 is Flagstaff Route 66 Days, September 14 to

 

17 is the Rendezvous in San Bernardino and then the West Hollywood September

 

24th. We are looking for vendors of Route 66 merchandise.

 

 

 

So if you want to join us please let me know. We welcome any questions on

 

these or any of the events taking place on Route 66. Remember that the

 

Universal event has been changed to May of 2007, more news on this major

 

event later.

 

 

 

Remember we are also looking for folks with cars to display as well as all

 

of you to come enjoy these events. This year there are many things happening

 

on Route 66 and these events are major reasons for all the good things we

 

see happening.

 

 

 

Take care and see you on the road.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

CEO

 

Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

Preservation Historic Roads & Corridors

 

P O Box 290066

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

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Dave...

 

 

 

I really enjoyed your stories about Ivar's and the surrounds there.

 

I must say I get a sinking feeling when people describe the OLD DAYS

 

that are now all changed in the name of progress. I have lived long

 

enough to realize that in my lifetime, things have changed

 

dramatically. Some of it good, but much of it change-for-the-sake-

 

of-change. Do people stop to smell the roses anymore? I try to.

 

Anyway, I was transported to Ivar's while reading your comments, and

 

it was a fun trip!

 

 

 

I have two questions for anyone in the group:

 

 

 

1) Is it possible to pull up all these great travel tips for a

 

specific place by doing a search of these postings? I try to keep

 

the ones that interest me in mind, but I know I will forget a lot of

 

it down the road when, hopefully, I will start galavanting out west.

 

 

 

2) This may sound like a dumb question, but did the publishers of

 

American Road magazine start this group--or was it people who love

 

seeing the USA and wanted to share their experiences? I love it. I

 

am looking forward to my first issue of AR.

 

 

 

Always staying clam, and trying now to stay cloo...

 

 

 

Rita

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Hey there,

 

 

 

Wanted to respond to Jan and tell her I am originally from IOWA.

 

 

 

For 20 years, I have lived in St. Louis, Missouri but will return to Iowa --

 

to West Des Moines for a high school reunion and to attend the Iowa State

 

Fair in mid-August! hehe. (Love that butter cow.)

 

 

 

In other news, just wanted to let you all know that my touring Route 66

 

PHOTO exhibit (currently in Montezuma, Kansas) is coming to my current

 

hometown of STL. Yes, it's crazy but true. The show will be going to the

 

Museum under the ARCH! To be official, the venue is called the Jefferson

 

National Expansion Memorial. Show dates will be: February 12, 2006 through

 

April 2, 2006.

 

 

 

Hope you are all having a great summer.

 

 

 

Shellee G.

 

 

 

 

 

Shellee Graham

 

St. Louis, MO

 

 

 

http://www.coralcourt.com

 

http://www.cafepress.com/coralcourt

 

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Hmm... well, apparently, I can experience this right here where I am

 

now (bay area)... Ivars has a place in Santa Clara:

 

http://www.ivars.net/SFB_Home/seafood_locations.html

 

 

 

So much for local things staying very local...

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <rudkip@s...> wrote:

 

> I am not real knowlegable in this area but there is a fish place in

 

Seattle

 

> called Ivor's (I believe it is on Puget Sound) which, if it is still

 

there

 

> is very much worth experiencing...for those out there who have been

 

to Ted

 

> Drewe's in St. Louis, in my mind it is the Ted Drewes of fish

 

joints...the

 

> fish was good but the experience of watching a bunch of people serve

 

a bunch

 

> of people made it even more worthwhile! Tsingtao Kip

 

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> From: "dgildor" <radicaladventure@g...>

 

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> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 12:01 PM

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Suggestions in Oregon and Washington?

 

>

 

>

 

> > I'm on the midst of a roadtrip along the West Coast on my motorcycle

 

> > and wondered if anyone had any particular suggestions of things to

 

> > see, places to eat, etc. along the roads in Oregon and Washington.

 

> >

 

> > Thanks. And for anyone interested in following allowing virtually, I

 

> > am maintaining a blog of my "adventure" at

 

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NIce to meet you Shellee. I live by Elkader. Close to the Mississippi River and

 

Prairie Du Chein, Wisc. I have lived here all my life. We went down through

 

Missouri in Feb. for our 40th Wedding Anniversary. We went down to Rogers,

 

Arkansas and stayed with a cousin. We stayed at Columbia, Missouri over night.

 

We usually stay at Jefferson City. This time was different. We never have been

 

to St. Louis before. Sounds like it is pretty over that way. Jan

 

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To: American Road Egroup

 

Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:45 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] From SHELLEE GRAHAM

 

 

 

 

 

Hey there,

 

 

 

Wanted to respond to Jan and tell her I am originally from IOWA.

 

 

 

For 20 years, I have lived in St. Louis, Missouri but will return to Iowa --

 

to West Des Moines for a high school reunion and to attend the Iowa State

 

Fair in mid-August! hehe. (Love that butter cow.)

 

 

 

In other news, just wanted to let you all know that my touring Route 66

 

PHOTO exhibit (currently in Montezuma, Kansas) is coming to my current

 

hometown of STL. Yes, it's crazy but true. The show will be going to the

 

Museum under the ARCH! To be official, the venue is called the Jefferson

 

National Expansion Memorial. Show dates will be: February 12, 2006 through

 

April 2, 2006.

 

 

 

Hope you are all having a great summer.

 

 

 

Shellee G.

 

 

 

 

 

Shellee Graham

 

St. Louis, MO

 

 

 

http://www.coralcourt.com

 

http://www.cafepress.com/coralcourt

 

http://www.smithkramer.com/exhibitions.php?id=16

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I've been to southern Maine...it is pretty heavily tourist,

 

I agree with you there, Alex. Yeah, I may do that on long

 

trips, too. My gas money takes away from fancy meals

 

and/or

 

motels.

 

 

 

To be honest, I travel on a small income anyways...so I

 

never get that fancy. I really splurged in Nashville, IN a

 

couple of years ago....a full apartment-like room with two

 

tubs...one was a jacuzzi....woo hoo!!!

 

 

 

Fast food or a diner and Red Roof or Quality Inn is a

 

typical night on the road....lol. I have to admit that I'm

 

kind of lazy sometimes, whatever is within a mile of the

 

interstate are the businesses I patronize. Though I do

 

search out good local restaurants on occasion, and once in

 

a while a local motel.

 

 

 

I won't ever let the price of gas from letting me travel.

 

It might drive me to air travel though. That is not much

 

more expensive if you look in the right places.

 

 

 

Matt Smallwood

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:14:48 -0700 (PDT)

 

Alex Burr <hester_nec@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

> Matt,

 

>

 

> From the looks of the traffic here in southern Maine

 

> on that parking lot we call U S Route 1, people aren't

 

> putting off traveling. What is happening is they are

 

> going to where they want to go, and then not moving

 

> very far, nor are they spending on the things tourists

 

> buy - stuffed lobster sales in this area are down

 

> dramatically!!!! LOL

 

>

 

> I also am planning my yearly trip to Memphis, but in

 

> Dec so gas prices may be down - which is 1400 miles.

 

> At the 25 mpg the '92 Buick I'm driving that comes out

 

> to around $140 @ $2.50 a gallon - not all that much

 

> beyond reason, but still that's around $40 or $50 that

 

> I won't have to spend. Perhaps I'll just run for it

 

> doing 11 hours a day and make the trip in 2 days

 

> instead of 3, thus saving a motel night. There's the

 

> $50 or so for gas.

 

>

 

> I think people are going to go where they want, when

 

> they want, until the price gets beyond reason -

 

> wherever that is. They'll just plan things a little

 

> better.

 

>

 

> Happy and safe travels.

 

>

 

> Hudsonly,

 

> Alex B

 

>

 

>

 

> --- thehinge@magpage.com wrote:

 

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> > I have a question for everyone here at the American

 

> > Roads

 

> > group. Anyone cancel, alter or delay a road trip

 

> > this

 

> > summer due to the price of gasoline? Here on the

 

> > East

 

> > Coast it hovers around 2.50 to 2.60/gallon as of

 

> > this

 

> > email. Could be ten cents more tomorrow. And I

 

> > know it's

 

> > more in places like California. You Californians

 

> > seeing a

 

> > price of 3.00/gallon yet?

 

> >

 

> > I'm curious....is the need to travel by car so

 

> > strong that

 

> > it doesn't matter if we pay 15-20 dollars more per

 

> > fillup

 

> > than at this time last year? It doesn't to

 

> > me....I'm

 

> > making a 1500 mile round trip to Illinois during the

 

> > second

 

> > week of September. I will make more judicious

 

> > choices when

 

> > I drive locally, but I ENJOY driving and seeing this

 

> > big,

 

> > beautiful country. Can't see it from a plane.

 

> > That's

 

> > it in a nutshell for me. I suspect I will hear

 

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Greetings from the UK. Here gasoline is, by my calculations which I admit

 

are lousy, $7.29 per imperial gallon. Imperial is slightly more than your

 

gallon, but the cost is as high as ?1.95 per litre, and the exchange rate is

 

approx $1.75 to the British ?, so you work it out!

 

 

 

I am doing a trip to New Mexico in a coupe of weeks. The plan is to head

 

south from Albuquerque on I25 and crossing over towards Roswell, (my wife is

 

a UFO fan) then nice local roads towards Las Cruces, and from there across

 

to wards Arizona, before ending up in Tucson. Any hints, suggestions,

 

Must-Sees, lodging and restaurant recommendations will be gratefully

 

received. Any Group members live down that way?

 

Best wishes

 

Walter from Glasgow

 

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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:28 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Travelling Less?

 

 

 

 

 

> Anyone cancel, alter or delay a road trip this

 

> summer due to the price of gasoline?

 

>

 

> No, in fact, I am trying to plan a short road trip for October.

 

>

 

> While I do not know much about economics and world trade, nor how we

 

> got ourselves into such a bind relating to using foreign oil/gas, I

 

> think at this point, we Americans are too attached to our cars to

 

> seriously curtail using them. Finances are a factor, especially for

 

> those on fixed incomes--but probably most people try to conserve gas

 

> during times like now when prices are soaring.

 

>

 

> My car is an extension of myself, and a top priority in our budget.

 

> When I lived in Brooklyn (NY), you didn't need a car--though most

 

> people have them and traffic and parking are a nightmare. Here in

 

> central NJ, however, the public transportation systems are totally

 

> inadequate, so you need a car just to live your life.

 

>

 

> I am at the point in my life where I feel my "biological clock is

 

> ticking"...not the one where you are getting older and worry about

 

> having children, but the one where I'm trying to do as much as I can

 

> before the slowdown of old age. If gas prices go high, well (aside

 

> from however we can get this bear off our back politically) I will

 

> give up other things in order to be able to hit the road!

 

>

 

> They will have to pry my hands from the steering wheel when "that

 

> time" comes.

 

>

 

> Rita

 

>

 

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I have "splurged" in the past, staying at the Best

 

Western at Hunts Landing outside Milford,PA - at $85 a

 

night. It happens to be in the right place for a 2nd

 

night stop-over coming home from Memphis. However,

 

the place is beginning to get a little seedy looking

 

and with gas prices as they are, I'll not indulge

 

myself in future trips.

 

 

 

I figure I can do the Memphis run in 2 days, staying

 

in the Roanoke area the 1st night and make it to

 

Memphis late in the afternoon the 2nd night. I'm an

 

early riser - usually on the road around 5 am, tho I

 

admit driving in the dark scares me as my eyesight

 

isn't all that great and in the winter when I'm making

 

these trips there is the danger of icy roads you can

 

see. But, we have to do something.

 

 

 

Happy and Safe Traveling.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- thehinge@magpage.com wrote:

 

 

 

> I've been to southern Maine...it is pretty heavily

 

> tourist,

 

> I agree with you there, Alex. Yeah, I may do that

 

> on long

 

> trips, too. My gas money takes away from fancy

 

> meals

 

> and/or

 

> motels.

 

>

 

> To be honest, I travel on a small income

 

> anyways...so I

 

> never get that fancy. I really splurged in

 

> Nashville, IN a

 

> couple of years ago....a full apartment-like room

 

> with two

 

> tubs...one was a jacuzzi....woo hoo!!!

 

>

 

> Fast food or a diner and Red Roof or Quality Inn is

 

> a

 

> typical night on the road....lol. I have to admit

 

> that I'm

 

> kind of lazy sometimes, whatever is within a mile of

 

> the

 

> interstate are the businesses I patronize. Though I

 

> do

 

> search out good local restaurants on occasion, and

 

> once in

 

> a while a local motel.

 

>

 

> I won't ever let the price of gas from letting me

 

> travel.

 

> It might drive me to air travel though. That is

 

> not much

 

> more expensive if you look in the right places.

 

>

 

> Matt Smallwood

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:14:48 -0700 (PDT)

 

> Alex Burr <hester_nec@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

> > Matt,

 

> >

 

> > From the looks of the traffic here in southern

 

> Maine

 

> > on that parking lot we call U S Route 1, people

 

> aren't

 

> > putting off traveling. What is happening is they

 

> are

 

> > going to where they want to go, and then not

 

> moving

 

> > very far, nor are they spending on the things

 

> tourists

 

> > buy - stuffed lobster sales in this area are down

 

> > dramatically!!!! LOL

 

> >

 

> > I also am planning my yearly trip to Memphis,

 

> but in

 

> > Dec so gas prices may be down - which is 1400

 

> miles.

 

> > At the 25 mpg the '92 Buick I'm driving that comes

 

> out

 

> > to around $140 @ $2.50 a gallon - not all that

 

> much

 

> > beyond reason, but still that's around $40 or $50

 

> that

 

> > I won't have to spend. Perhaps I'll just run for

 

> it

 

> > doing 11 hours a day and make the trip in 2 days

 

> > instead of 3, thus saving a motel night. There's

 

> the

 

> > $50 or so for gas.

 

> >

 

> > I think people are going to go where they want,

 

> when

 

> > they want, until the price gets beyond reason -

 

> > wherever that is. They'll just plan things a

 

> little

 

> > better.

 

> >

 

> > Happy and safe travels.

 

> >

 

> > Hudsonly,

 

> > Alex B

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > --- thehinge@magpage.com wrote:

 

> >

 

> > > I have a question for everyone here at the

 

> American

 

> > > Roads

 

> > > group. Anyone cancel, alter or delay a road

 

> trip

 

> > > this

 

> > > summer due to the price of gasoline? Here on

 

> the

 

> > > East

 

> > > Coast it hovers around 2.50 to 2.60/gallon as of

 

> > > this

 

> > > email. Could be ten cents more tomorrow. And I

 

> > > know it's

 

> > > more in places like California. You

 

> Californians

 

> > > seeing a

 

> > > price of 3.00/gallon yet?

 

> > >

 

> > > I'm curious....is the need to travel by car so

 

> > > strong that

 

> > > it doesn't matter if we pay 15-20 dollars more

 

> per

 

> > > fillup

 

> > > than at this time last year? It doesn't to

 

> > > me....I'm

 

> > > making a 1500 mile round trip to Illinois during

 

> the

 

> > > second

 

> > > week of September. I will make more judicious

 

> > > choices when

 

> > > I drive locally, but I ENJOY driving and seeing

 

> this

 

> > > big,

 

> > > beautiful country. Can't see it from a plane.

 

> > > That's

 

> > > it in a nutshell for me. I suspect I will hear

 

> > > similiar

 

> > > opinions...lol.

 

> > >

 

> > > Matt Smallwood

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

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I really hate the comparison of UK to American gas

 

prices. It's sort of like apples and oranges - you

 

have a much smaller country, to start with and a much,

 

much better public transportation system. So there

 

really is no comparison.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- UKRoads <ukroads@ntlworld.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> Greetings from the UK. Here gasoline is, by my

 

> calculations which I admit

 

> are lousy, $7.29 per imperial gallon. Imperial is

 

> slightly more than your

 

> gallon, but the cost is as high as ?1.95 per litre,

 

> and the exchange rate is

 

> approx $1.75 to the British ?, so you work it out!

 

>

 

> I am doing a trip to New Mexico in a coupe of weeks.

 

> The plan is to head

 

> south from Albuquerque on I25 and crossing over

 

> towards Roswell, (my wife is

 

> a UFO fan) then nice local roads towards Las Cruces,

 

> and from there across

 

> to wards Arizona, before ending up in Tucson. Any

 

> hints, suggestions,

 

> Must-Sees, lodging and restaurant recommendations

 

> will be gratefully

 

> received. Any Group members live down that way?

 

> Best wishes

 

> Walter from Glasgow

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: "keepitreal08628" <keepitreal08628@yahoo.com>

 

> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:28 PM

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Travelling Less?

 

>

 

>

 

> > Anyone cancel, alter or delay a road trip this

 

> > summer due to the price of gasoline?

 

> >

 

> > No, in fact, I am trying to plan a short road trip

 

> for October.

 

> >

 

> > While I do not know much about economics and world

 

> trade, nor how we

 

> > got ourselves into such a bind relating to using

 

> foreign oil/gas, I

 

> > think at this point, we Americans are too attached

 

> to our cars to

 

> > seriously curtail using them. Finances are a

 

> factor, especially for

 

> > those on fixed incomes--but probably most people

 

> try to conserve gas

 

> > during times like now when prices are soaring.

 

> >

 

> > My car is an extension of myself, and a top

 

> priority in our budget.

 

> > When I lived in Brooklyn (NY), you didn't need a

 

> car--though most

 

> > people have them and traffic and parking are a

 

> nightmare. Here in

 

> > central NJ, however, the public transportation

 

> systems are totally

 

> > inadequate, so you need a car just to live your

 

> life.

 

> >

 

> > I am at the point in my life where I feel my

 

> "biological clock is

 

> > ticking"...not the one where you are getting older

 

> and worry about

 

> > having children, but the one where I'm trying to

 

> do as much as I can

 

> > before the slowdown of old age. If gas prices go

 

> high, well (aside

 

> > from however we can get this bear off our back

 

> politically) I will

 

> > give up other things in order to be able to hit

 

> the road!

 

> >

 

> > They will have to pry my hands from the steering

 

> wheel when "that

 

> > time" comes.

 

> >

 

> > Rita

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

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Matt,

 

 

 

From the looks of the traffic here in southern Maine

 

on that parking lot we call U S Route 1, people aren't

 

putting off traveling. What is happening is they are

 

going to where they want to go, and then not moving

 

very far, nor are they spending on the things tourists

 

buy - stuffed lobster sales in this area are down

 

dramatically!!!! LOL

 

 

 

I'm heading up to Maine from Boston in a few hours - going to Southport Island

 

and we are ABSOLUTELY having lobster! We'll do our part to get those numbers

 

back up!! YUM!!!!!

 

 

 

Melanie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Matt,

 

 

 

From the looks of the traffic here in southern Maine

 

on that parking lot we call U S Route 1, people aren't

 

putting off traveling. What is happening is they are

 

going to where they want to go, and then not moving

 

very far, nor are they spending on the things tourists

 

buy - stuffed lobster sales in this area are down

 

dramatically!!!! LOL

 

 

 

I'm heading up to Maine from Boston in a few hours - going to Southport Island

 

and we are ABSOLUTELY having lobster! We'll do our part to get those numbers

 

back up!! YUM!!!!!

 

 

 

Melanie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

melanie m guerra

 

www.northernlightjewelry.com

 

 

 

FREE JEWELRY! Host a trunk show at your home or office & you get 20% of sales in

 

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