Guest Hank Hallmark Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I'm forwarding this information from several articles in a recent issue of Nat'l Motorists Assn. Foundation Newsletter. I thought it would be of interest to the "roadies" insomuch as the 2006 Steinbeck Awards are considering "the Duke city" as it's location. I think there is a serious possibility that some "roadies" might be affected by the policies of the mayor and the city. Perhaps several letters to the Mayor such as the one I've included in this email is in order. I spoke to David Knudson and he is in agreement that a concerted effort might be in order to prevent these things from happening during the event. Hank Hallmark An open letter to Mayor Chavez of Albuquerque, New Mexico: I read in the July/August issue of NMAF NEWS that you and members of your city council have used the city's "public nuisance" ordinance to justify permanently seizing the vehicle of anyone "accused" of DWI or, anybody who receives a second red-light camera ticket will lose their vehicle for thirty days, even if the owner isn't driving the vehicle. Has it ever occurred to you that this is a violation of due process laws and the Constitution of the United States of America? Police in your city are obviously being used by you and your city council to raise revenue. The cameras at stop lights are all about raising revenue, nothing more, and nothing less. Mayor Chavez, every fall and every spring, for years, my wife and I pass through Albuquerque on our way to our winter residence. We stay in Albuquerque at least fifty percent of the time we go through your city...we spend upwards of $125 at a time. You can be certain that from now on, we will avoid Albuquerque.... Search and Seizure: States conducting automotive seizure rely on a doctrine found in a 1931 Supreme Court ruling stating, "It is the property which is preceded against, and, by resort to a legal fiction, held guilty and condemned as though it were conscious instead of inanimate and insentient." In other words, it's OK to confiscate your car because you forgot to pay an $85 parking ticket; you didn't commit the crime, your car did. In 1980, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals reaffirmed the concept, convicting a 1976 Mercedes Benz 280S of drugrunning. The Bill of Rights, the court argued, applies to people not to cars. Albuquerque, New Mexico agrees. It's the first jurisdiction to combine a seizure ordinance with a red light camera. If your car-no matter who was driving-blows through two red lights, they'll take it for thirty days. The more cities follow suit, adopting get-rich-quick red light and speed camera schemes, the more likely you are to lose your wheels. If you forget to file a change of address form with the city, or the post offices loses your ticket in the mail, the first time you realize you've committed a "crime" will be when your car disappears. The Supreme Court's ruling on home seizures is a wakeup call to every American. While the issue is hot, contact your state legislator and demand repeal of automobile seizure laws as well. Otherwise, the state will soon become the number one practitioner of grand theft auto, with your car constantly in its sights. NMA Foundation And ACLU Win Critical Victory As we reported to you in the last issue of the NMAF NEWS, the NMA Foundation issued a Legal Aid Grant to American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)-New Mexico to help with its recent legal challenge to a new vehicle seizure ordinance in Albuquerque. The law would have allowed the city to seize the car of anyone suspected of a DWI, even first-time offenders. The ordinance didn't require a conviction. The vehicle would have been seized when the suspect is stopped. He or she could then contest the seizure with a city hearing officer or agree to have an immobilizing "boot" placed on the vehicle for 30 days. To get the boot removed, offenders would have had to install an ignition interlock on the vehicle for six months or a year. In "extreme" cases, the city would simply sell the vehicle at auction. The ACLU convinced the District Court Judge to issue a temporary injunction against the enforcement of the ordinance, while they prepared their case. In August, the ACLU took the city to court, and the judge struck down the ordinance. In her decision, the judge cited "serious procedural due process problems" with the city's law. The judge said the ruling was on constitutional grounds, and focused primarily on one sentence in the ordinance: "The city hearing officer shall only determine whether the law enforcement officer had probable cause to seize the vehicle." The judge said the ordinance didn't spell out what the hearing officer would do to ensure drivers would have a fair, timely and constitutionally mandated hearing. "We're very happy and feel like the judge ruled as we would've liked," said Peter Simonson, Executive Director of the ACLU New Mexico. Simonson also said the judge's decision could pave the way for similar rulings in ACLU challenges to other laws that allow the city to seize people's vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bakerhab@aol.com Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE September 22, 2005 Gov. Blagojevich applauds U.S. recognition of Historic Rt. 66 and Illinois River Road U.S Department of Transportation names famed routes aˆ?National Scenic Bywaysaˆ? SPRINGFIELD aˆ“ Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich today applauded the aˆ?National Scenic Bywaysaˆ? designation by the U.S. Department of Transportation for two storied transportation routes in Illinois: Route 66 and the Illinois River Road. The designation means that the routes are added to the national list of Scenic Byways and are eligible to apply for grant funding that can be used for marketing, visitor centers, landscaping and other amenities. aˆ?Route 66 winds more than 2,000 miles from Chicago to L.A. and is so much more than just a highway. Itaˆ™s a symbol of our love for the open road and that can-do spirit of individualism and adventure that is such a vital part of the American way of life. The Illinois River Road is a window to our rich Native American cultural legacy and the natural splendors of our state. The new designations for these two routes will help us attract even more visitors to Illinois,aˆ? said Gov. Blagojevich. The announcement of the designation of two new Scenic Byways in Illinois was made in Washington D.C. today by U.S. Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta, who was acting on applications submitted by two local groups aˆ“ the Route 66 Heritage Project and the Peoria Area Convention and Visitors Bureau - through the Illinois Department of Transportation (IDOT). To make the Scenic Byways designation a reality, Gov. Blagojevich provided more than $500,000 in Opportunity Returns support through the Illinois Bureau of Tourism, which coordinated the strategic effort to highlight these important historical destinations as part of its efforts to grow tourism in Illinois. Both byways will bring new attention to existing tourism assets and complement the Mile After Magnificent Mile marketing campaign that highlights the state's 3-Day Getaway destinations. "The designation of the Illinois River Road as a national scenic byway is a tremendous boost to nature-based tourism in Illinois River Country," said Lt. Gov. Patrick Quinn. "Our scenic byway provides the gateway for everyone across the country to enjoy the bird-watching, wildlife viewing, hiking, biking, fishing, boating, and camping that Illinois River Country offers." aˆ?When you talk about the heritage of Illinois you are talking about the history of transportation in America,aˆ? said IDOT Secretary Tim Martin. aˆ?Thataˆ™s why IDOT is proud to play a role in highlighting and bringing to life the stories of Route 66 and the Illinois River Road, two fabled routes that have played such an important role in the history of our state and nation.aˆ? "Illinois has been an important part of the journey as so many people crisscrossed America for generations, and the Route 66 and Illinois River Road Scenic Byway designations support Gov. Blagojevich's efforts to build Illinois' tourism industry. Thanks to this national recognition, more visitors will see 'Mile After Magnificent Mile' of Illinois that will ultimately support even more businesses and jobs across our state," Illinois Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity (DCEO) Director Jack Lavin said. The starting point of Route 66 aˆ“ which was immortalized by the song aˆ?(Get Your Kicks On) Route 66,aˆ? performed by Nat King Cole, the Rolling Stones and many others aˆ“ is at the corner of Lake Shore Drive and Jackson Blvd. in Chicago. The route winds through Chicago on various streets to southbound Interstate 55. It travels along much of I-55 and its frontage road, except for a loop from Plainfield to Braceville along Old US 66 and another loop along Route 4 from Springfield to south of Staunton, where it again meets the primary route along I-55. The Illinois portion of Route 66 covers 420 miles and ends in East St. Louis at the Martin Luther King Memorial Bridge. The Illinois River Road, known as aˆ?the Route of the Voyageurs,aˆ? after the early French explorers, covers 271 miles through the heart of the state and runs from Ottawa to Havana. It includes much of Routes 26 and 29 on each side of the river. IDOT and DCEO worked closely with the two local groups in applying for the designation. IDOT installed directional signing for both Route 66 and the Illinois River Road in 1996. Once a road is designated as a National Scenic Byway, they receive national recognition on the www.byways.org website and they are actively promoted as tourist destinations by the Federal Highway Administration. Scenic Byways are eligible to apply for a $25,000 annual seed grant for administration of the byway for the first 5 years. They are also eligible to apply for grant funds for marketing, landscaping and construction of visitor centers and other amenities. Since 1992, the National Scenic Byways Program has provided funding for almost 1,500 state and nationally designated byway projects in 48 states. Illinois previously had five routes on the list of National Scenic Byways: The Great River Road along the Mississippi River; the Illinois portion of the Historic National Road, which cuts across the southern half of the state; Lincoln Highway, which starts south of Chicago and travels along US Rt. 30 and IL Rt. 38 to Fulton; the Meeting of the Great Rivers Scenic Route in the Metro East area, at the confluence of the Mississippi, Missouri and Illinois Rivers; and the Ohio River Scenic Byway, along the southern edge of the state. ### Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John W Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Let me be sure I understand your statement: "I think there is a serious possibility that some 'roadies' might be affected by the policies of the mayor and the city." I, for one, have no intention of being arrested for DWI, nor do I plan on 'running two red lights.'---AND I seriously doubt any others do either!!! john w --- Hank Hallmark <thehallmarks@earthlink.net> wrote: > I'm forwarding this information from several > articles in a recent issue of Nat'l Motorists Assn. > Foundation Newsletter. I thought it would be of > interest to the "roadies" insomuch as the 2006 > Steinbeck Awards are considering "the Duke city" as > it's location. > > I think there is a serious possibility that some > "roadies" might be affected by the policies of the > mayor and the city. > > Perhaps several letters to the Mayor such as the one > I've included in this email is in order. I spoke to > David Knudson and he is in agreement that a > concerted effort might be in order to prevent these > things from happening during the event. > > Hank Hallmark > > An open letter to Mayor Chavez of Albuquerque, New > Mexico: > > I read in the July/August issue of NMAF NEWS that > you and members of your city council have used the > city's "public nuisance" ordinance to justify > permanently seizing the vehicle of anyone "accused" > of DWI or, anybody who receives a second red-light > camera ticket will lose their vehicle for thirty > days, even if the owner isn't driving the vehicle. > > Has it ever occurred to you that this is a violation > of due process laws and the Constitution of the > United States of America? Police in your city are > obviously being used by you and your city council to > raise revenue. The cameras at stop lights are all > about raising revenue, nothing more, and nothing > less. > > Mayor Chavez, every fall and every spring, for > years, my wife and I pass through Albuquerque on our > way to our winter residence. We stay in Albuquerque > at least fifty percent of the time we go through > your city...we spend upwards of $125 at a time. You > can be certain that from now on, we will avoid > Albuquerque.... > > Search and Seizure: > > States conducting automotive seizure rely on a > doctrine found in a 1931 Supreme Court ruling > stating, "It is the property which is preceded > against, and, by resort to a legal fiction, held > guilty and condemned as though it were conscious > instead of inanimate and insentient." In other > words, it's OK to confiscate your car because you > forgot to pay an $85 parking ticket; you didn't > commit the crime, your car did. > > In 1980, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals reaffirmed > the concept, convicting a 1976 Mercedes Benz 280S of > drugrunning. The Bill of Rights, the court argued, > applies to people not to cars. > > Albuquerque, New Mexico agrees. It's the first > jurisdiction to combine a seizure ordinance with a > red light camera. If your car-no matter who was > driving-blows through two red lights, they'll take > it for thirty days. The more cities follow suit, > adopting get-rich-quick red light and speed camera > schemes, the more likely you are to lose your > wheels. If you forget to file a change of address > form with the city, or the post offices loses your > ticket in the mail, the first time you realize > you've committed a "crime" will be when your car > disappears. > > The Supreme Court's ruling on home seizures is a > wakeup call to every American. While the issue is > hot, contact your state legislator and demand repeal > of automobile seizure laws as well. Otherwise, the > state will soon become the number one practitioner > of grand theft auto, with your car constantly in its > sights. > > NMA Foundation And ACLU Win Critical Victory > > As we reported to you in the last issue of the NMAF > NEWS, the NMA Foundation issued a Legal Aid Grant to > American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)-New Mexico to > help with its recent legal challenge to a new > vehicle seizure ordinance in Albuquerque. > > The law would have allowed the city to seize the car > of anyone suspected of a DWI, even first-time > offenders. The ordinance didn't require a > conviction. The vehicle would have been seized when > the suspect is stopped. He or she could then contest > the seizure with a city hearing officer or agree to > have an immobilizing "boot" placed on the vehicle > for 30 days. To get the boot removed, offenders > would have had to install an ignition interlock on > the vehicle for six months or a year. In "extreme" > cases, the city would simply sell the vehicle at > auction. > > The ACLU convinced the District Court Judge to issue > a temporary injunction against the enforcement of > the ordinance, while they prepared their case. In > August, the ACLU took the city to court, and the > judge struck down the ordinance. > > In her decision, the judge cited "serious procedural > due process problems" with the city's law. The judge > said the ruling was on constitutional grounds, and > focused > primarily on one sentence in the ordinance: "The > city hearing officer shall only determine whether > the law enforcement officer had probable cause to > seize the vehicle." The judge said the ordinance > didn't spell out what the hearing officer would do > to ensure drivers would have a fair, timely and > constitutionally mandated hearing. > > "We're very happy and feel like the judge ruled as > we would've liked," said Peter Simonson, Executive > Director of the ACLU New Mexico. Simonson also said > the judge's decision could pave the way for similar > rulings in ACLU challenges to other laws that allow > the city to seize people's vehicles. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Guest David Willman Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Just forwarding on....some great American Roads in this years list. - 66 Willy Also, Historic 66 in Arizona too. I don't see the press release yet, but found the link of all designated byways today. Cut and paste this link. Many great trails have made it also. I will post to the American Road group also. http://www.byways.org/press/designation200...signations.html > It's official. Illinois Route 66 has been accepted as a National Scenic Byway. The two people, who really worked hard on the paperwork and legwork in putting it altogether and getting this accomplished are Patty Kuhn, former Illinois Route 66 Heritage executive director, and Carl Johnson, 66 roadie, writer, etc. > > Thank-you very much to the two of you. To all the others that played part in it, a special thanks to you, also. > > Eventually, there should be more info on it if you go to www.byways.org. Nothing posted as of yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian Kreimendahl Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 http://www.abqtrib.com/albq/nw_local/artic...4179407,00.html Saying goodbye to an old friend Historic El Vado Motel will be remembered as a city treasure and a home to Route 66 enthusiasts and people in financial need By Maggie Shepard Tribune Reporter October 22, 2005 It feels like a camp cabin. Sparsely decorated rooms hold mismatched furniture dwarfed by the high ceiling's glossy cedar vigas. El Vado Motel, age 68, is a funky spot, drawing near-broke monthly tenants and Route 66 enthusiasts who thrill at waking up in a piece of history - no matter how squeaky the mattress is. Hailed by historians as one of the purest Route 66 vintage lodges, the motel is slated for destruction. Managers Sam and Fatima Kassam are packing their belongings and moving out. After 15 years, they sold the motel to developer Richard Gonzales for an undisclosed price. Gonzales plans to build town homes on the site, although, after listening to preservationists' pleas, he may keep the front lobby, the famous neon American Indian head sign and perhaps a few rooms. "It is run-down. We can't even give the beds away. I'm tired of looking at it," Gonzales said. "I don't want to be in the preservation business." Emily Priddy, a Route 66 preservationist and enthusiast, said she and fellow fans would pay big money for a chunk of the motel's vigas, even a sink handle, and especially the sign. "Anything I can save, I'll take it," she said in an interview at the motel, where she met with Gonzales earlier this week. "But I'm glad he's open to the idea of saving some and keeping it open to the public." However, Gonzales says the pool - a cool, inviting oasis for the millions who traveled Route 66 when it was the nation's most famous highway and its best way to get to California - must go. So must most of El Vado's 33 rooms, built long before the interstate highway system changed America, and its way of traveling from town to town. The pool, sadly, appears beyond repair. It looks like an underground bunker, covered in a shingled concrete slab, unused since who knows when. The rooms, none larger than 20-by-15, seem sleepy. But they are neat and don't smell 68 years old. The carpet is vacuumed, the teal and mauve bedspreads crisply tucked beneath thin mattresses. The bathrooms are clean, although the original black and white mini-tiles have dulled. Most of the beds rise two feet off the ground, some tipping at slight - or not so slight - angles. The 19-inch televisions are cable-equipped and every phone works. The room doors, symmetrically flanked by evergreen shrubs, open onto a central parking corridor. Some of the rooms come with their own attached, covered carport. "This is typical of the development of motor hotels," Priddy said. The motel culture, she says, developed from camp sites, to cabins, to connected cabins, to cabins with garages, to complexes of cabins with garages and community areas. Across the street from the city's Biological Park, El Vado abuts the Albuquerque Country Club golf course and is surrounded by fenced-in, overgrown lots. "I'm going to open the property up. It is right on a golf course and they've closed that off," Gonzales said. His plans are for 10 Spanish Mission-style town homes priced between $400,000 and $600,000. "I want to revitalize this area. It is going to be nice. I care for this area," said Gonzales, an Albuquerque native. Gonzales is seeking a zoning change of the property, from commercial to residential. He asked that a hearing Thursday before the Environmental Planning Commission be deferred until December to give him time to gather information about what, if anything, he can save. He takes possession on Nov. 1, time enough for tenants - one has stayed two years - to move out. Rates range from $31 to $45 a night. The property will be fenced in and the rooms cleared of carpet and furniture, "just to see what we have," Gonzales said. At least two neighborhood associations - West Park and Riverview Heights - have sent letters to the commission saying they are opposed to the zoning change. The Albuquerque Country Club's executive board has decided to remain neutral, said General Manager Patrick Elwell. Priddy, of Tulsa, Okla., and Jerry Ueckert, of Edgewood, told Gonzales Thursday that they are willing to coordinate preservation of the front lobby and adjoining rooms. "Maybe we could do a bed and breakfast, anything," Priddy said. She said the lobby, which includes living quarters for the motel keeper and a lounge, would be perfect for meals. For now, the lobby houses two hip-high bird cages and their feathered tenants, scuffed leather lounge chairs and a glass stand that holds bumper stickers and tourist pamphlets for sale. Priddy left with one of the souvenirs: "We visited the world famous El Vado Motel." She hopes that's the only thing she'll ever have to take away. "I want to save it all," she said. "But if I can't, well, we'll hopefully save enough to remember." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Oops. It's the upcoming four day Thanksgiving weekend I'm thinking of. I see I forgot that little detail. Both the Hermitage and Homestead are places I wasn't aware of. Well, I was aware that the Hermitage existed but not exactly where it was or that it "visitable". I found this: http://plateauproperties.com/home.html on Homestead. I had turned up Pall Mall on the web so knew that there was at least one attraction on US-127. With the couple you've added along with those on 27, I'm guessing I would enjoy either route home. That may have to be a last minute decision. One loose "plan" is to drive to Nashville on Thursday and spend Thursday and Friday night there. Saturday would be spent on US-70 with stops at the Hermitage and Homestead. A variation would be to work in the Hermitage on Friday to allow more time for the east and north legs. Tentatively, that puts me around Crossville/Kingston Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning. Good info, Bob. Thanks. --Denny > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Reynolds [mailto:roustabout@starband.net] > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:59 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-70 etc. In Tennessee > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...> wrote: > > > > I'm contemplating a weekend drive just slightly to my south and have hit > > upon Nashville as a convenient and fun target. That lead me to the > > possibility of driving US-70 toward Knoxville (to add some width) > and either > > US-27 or US-127 home to Cincy. So I'm soliciting comments. I'm > particularly > > looking for advise on the US-27 vs. US-127 and US-70 vs. US-70N > decisions. > > Noting favorite points of interest is always welcome. > > > > BabyBoomerBob, this is, of course, your neighborhood so I expect > some good > > hints from you. Also, if this outing actually takes place, is there > a diner > > or other spot where we might meet for coffee & chatter? Maybe somewhere > > around Kingston or Crossville? > > > > Denny Gibson > > Cincinnati, OH > > www.DennyGibson.com > > > > Ack! You sure know how to put a feller on the spot:) I'm not as > familiar with this area as I should be, but I'll let you know what I > do know of. > > Heading east on US 70 from Nashville, you'll be just a hop, skip > and a jump from Andy Jackson's home, the Hermitage. As for whether to > take 70 or 70 N, it's pretty much a tossup, although as far as the > rolling hills of the Highland Rim country go, I favor 70N. > > One place I've been meaning to see more of is Homestead. It's a > town just south of Crossville near the junction of US 127 and SR 68, > created by the WPA (I think) during FDR's administration. Most of the > homes there have Cumberland Mountain sandstone facing. I've mentioned > this sandstone on my Dixie Highway writeup. Crossville is where it > comes from. > > If you choose 127 as your way home, there are a couple of spots I > can point out. I've been to a restaurant in Jamestown called the Mark > Twain Restaurant. I recall it being a nice mom and pop place, but > it's been a number of years ago. Twain's father was from Jamestown. > > Somewhere near Jamestown (maybe out SR 154) I remember seeing an > ad for a sort of a general store that carried "Big Orange Dope". > Calling a soda a "dope" is a southern holdover from the days when Coca > Cola contained cocaine. I need to check and see if it's still around. > > A bit further north on 127 is Pall Mall, the hometown of Sgt. > Alvin York. The York gristmill is still there and part of a state > historic site. Beyond that, I'm not terribly familiar with 127:( > > Now if you choose 27, you'll go through Rockwood. That old Pure > station is about a block east on the main highway on the old > alignment. I forget which corner it's at, though:( You might do well > to swing right onto the old route just below town and follow it in. > You'll want to go back to the main drag afterwards, for if you keep to > the old road you'll find yourself headed east on 70 towards Kingston. > > North of Rockwood is Harriman. It takes pride that it was > founded as a temperance community where demon rum was forbidden for > many years. But that's pretty much in the past these days:) Lots of > nice architecture and a neat looking railroad bridge:) > > Much of 27 is being straightened and four laned, most likely to > promote tourism at Big South Fork Ntl. River and Recreation Area. > Once you get over the Kentucky line there's the town of Stearns where > a scenic railway takes you to Blue Heron, the site of an old coal > mining camp. When the Ntl. Park Service renovated the area they built > "skeleton" buildings on the site of the original structures. Seems > the place is still prone to flooding and this makes it easier to clean > up afterward:) They found everyone they could find who had lived at > Blue Heron and interviewed them on tape. When you go to these > "skeleton" buildings you can press a button and hear relevant parts of > these tapes about each of the buildings. > > Blue Heron can also be reached by road. Heading north in 27, go > left on KY 592 and follow the signs. > > Sadly, that's about all the info I can give you on these > highways. But I will do this. Some of my coworkers live in the > Kingston area and I'll ask them about diners. I *do* want to meet > you! Just let me know what weekend you'll be down. We can try to > make arrangements then. > > Happy Motoring, > > BabyBoomerBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thewoltersfamily Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Hello! We will be traveling between Little Rock and Rio Rancho, NM this week and 95% of the trip is on I-40. Are there some cool "Americana" things to see along the way or not too far off track? Thanks! Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Once you are west of Oklahoma City, I-40 parallels or buries much of the former US-66. In Oklahoma, there are Route 66 museums in Clinton and Elk City and the Sand Hill Curiosity Shop is in Erick. The Roger Miller Museum is there, too. Texas, offers the U-Drop-Inn in Shamrock and the Devil's Rope Museum in McLean. You can't miss the giant cross at Groom and shouldn't have to look too hard for the nearby "leaning tower of Texas". Plus there is Cadillac Ranch in Amarillo. In New Mexico, swing through Tucumcari for some classic motels including the Blue Swallow. I can't speak from personal experience but I imagine that at least some expressway travelers won't find these "too far off track". Of course, after you've visited a couple of them and driven a little of the old road, you may find that you don't really mind being a little off track once in awhile:-) Denny Gibson Cincinnati, OH www.DennyGibson.com > -----Original Message----- > From: thewoltersfamily [mailto:thewoltersfamily@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:24 AM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] I-40 Sights > > Hello! > > We will be traveling between Little Rock and Rio Rancho, NM > this week and 95% of the trip is on I-40. Are there some cool > "Americana" things to see along the way or not too far off track? > > Thanks! > Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest usroadman Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 For anyone who is interested in what US 34 looks like, I finally uploaded the photos I took when I drove the route from just outside Chicago to Granby, CO in September. There are photos of the road every 60 miles or so as it travels across the plains and into the Rockies. The photos can be accessed from this link: http://www.usroadman.com/us34links.htm From this page you can view individual photos, or slideshows of the route as it travels across the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...> wrote: > > Oops. It's the upcoming four day Thanksgiving weekend I'm thinking of. I see > I forgot that little detail. > > Both the Hermitage and Homestead are places I wasn't aware of. Well, I was > aware that the Hermitage existed but not exactly where it was or that it > "visitable". I found this: http://plateauproperties.com/home.html on > Homestead. I had turned up Pall Mall on the web so knew that there was at > least one attraction on US-127. With the couple you've added along with > those on 27, I'm guessing I would enjoy either route home. That may have to > be a last minute decision. > > One loose "plan" is to drive to Nashville on Thursday and spend Thursday and > Friday night there. Saturday would be spent on US-70 with stops at the > Hermitage and Homestead. A variation would be to work in the Hermitage on > Friday to allow more time for the east and north legs. Tentatively, that > puts me around Crossville/Kingston Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning. > > Good info, Bob. Thanks. > > --Denny I've asked at work, and the most likely spot to get together I've found is Chase's Drugs Store and Diner in Harriman. It's right on the main drag (US 27), but I've never been there. If you head home on US 127, that poses a bit more of a problem. The only places I know in Crossville are chains, like Wendy's. Any idea how we could time getting together? One more attraction off US 27 I'd forgotten. Back in the 1800's a bunch of landless English gentry founded a "colony" in the town of Rugby. The settlement didn't thrive, but left some very nice Victorian homes. To get there head west on TN 52 at Elgin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian Atkinson Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Dave, I am pretty familiar with the area of northern Utah, southeast Idaho, and western Wyoming. Until recentley I lived in Logan, Utah, and I am currently working on a personal project which involves photographing my favorite highway: US 89, which also happens to be the most scenic route for you to consider (NOT the fastest...but a gorgeous drive!) If you are interested in trying the route, here are the instructions: begin by traveling north on I-15 until you get to the first Brigham City exit (Exit 362) about 45 miles north of Downtown Salt Lake City. (You could opt for a short detour to visit the former Thiokol corporation- makers of the Space Shuttle booster engines, and Promontory Point/Golden Spike railroad center both located a few miles farther up I-15 and west about seven miles to Thiokol and twenty miles to Promontory.) Take exit 362 and head east past Brigham City on Highway 89/91 over the Wellsville mountain range to Cache Valley, (about 25 miles). Cache valley is the home of Utah State University, (my alma mater) and Logan, Utah. As you come into Logan, the highway heads due north and becomes Main Street. When you get to the intersection of 400 North, turn east (right) and you are now on US 89 scenic byway. You will stay on the highway all the way into Jackson, which is about 150 miles away. The things to see along the way would include: Two Mormon Tabernacles (NOT the famous Salt Lake City Tabernacle, home of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, but smaller, historic edifices; one in downtown Logan on the Northeast corner of Main and Center streets, and the other in Paris, Idaho. Believe me, you won't miss it- unless you miss Paris- not too difficult actually. Also in Logan, you may want to stop at the historic Blue Bird Cafe and candy shop on Main street, directly across from the tabernacle. It has been around...well...a long time. (My grandfather had his wedding luncheon there about 80 years ago). And USU offers some interesting architecture (Old main is about 120 years young) and excellent Aggie Ice cream too. There is a Mormon Temple in Logan also, but unfortunately, it does not offer a visiter's center- so be sure to visit Temple Square in Salt Lake City before leaving for Jackson. It is very interesting. Finally, if Space Research appeals to you, stop in at Space Dynamics Laboratory in the USU Technology Campus (1600 north and 200 east) for a tour. I used to work there...so tell them Brian sent you! As you leave Logan, you will travel through Logan Canyon, which is beautiful, but wind-y (with a long I!) and also currently under construction at the summit. Check www.udot.gov to be sure it is open and traversable. Also, be aware that much of this trip is over mountain passes, which can be very treacherous at this time of year. A four wheel drive or all wheel drive (or chains) are sometimes required! After the summit of Logan Canyon, you will have a quick descent to Bear Lake, on the border of Utah and Idaho. During the summer, Garden City offers travelers exquisite homemade raspberry shakes, but I think most of the shops/restaurants close for the winter months. The Idaho border is about 5 miles north of Garden City, and shortly after you will come to Paris, Idaho, (tabernacle). After Paris, you arrive in Montpilier, Idaho and the highway turns north again. You have to pay attention becuse after a block or two the route quickly heads east (right) again, up into the mountains. The next area of interest is Star Valley, Wyoming. If you pass through at meal time, try stopping at the Star Valley Cheese Factory and restaurant. It is where the locals eat. Just up the road a piece is Afton, home of the lesser-known antler arch (you won't miss it-it spans the road!) and, honestly, not much else. Now you are into the home stretch! Just past Afton you come to a bridge that crosses the Snake river and then the highway will turn north (right) at Alpine junction and finally to Jackson Hole. As long as the snow barriers are not down, just enjoy the drive through the canyon. There are lots of pullouts for viewing the river (in the summer there are lots of white-water rafters floating this part of the Snake). Once you arrive in Jackson, there are LOTS of shops, galleries, restaurants, resorts, etc. to check out. My personal favorites are the National Wildlife Art Museum and the adjacent Elk refuge just north of town about 3 miles. Also, if you enjoy photography (I teach it) visit Oswald gallery to see original works by Ansel Adams, Edward Weston, Jerry Uelsman, Yousef Karsh and others. Also see the Grand Tetons which are stunning on a crisp, clear morning! Well, that is about it. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. If you are able to take the trip, I would love to know what you thought of it! Also, if you are interested, I am (trying) to get a website put together to display the photographs of US 89 that I have taken. The project, when complete, will document each mileof the entire length of the historical route of the highway, from the Canadian border at Piegan, Montana, to the Mexican border at Nogales, Arizona. Happy trails! Brian Atkinson BYU-Idaho, Department of Art Rexburg, Idaho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dave Reese Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Brian, Thanks for the advice. I will file this on my Palm for the trip and will let you know if we are able to make this trip using this route...wish me luck on the weather and construction. Dave Reese Allentown PA Home of Brooklands Speedway and Cherrington Park http://www.geocities.com/brooklandsspeedway <http://www.geocities.com/brooklandsspeedway> <http://www.summerharmony.com> -----Original Message----- From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Brian Atkinson Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:25 AM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: From Salt Lake City to Jackson Hole Dave, I am pretty familiar with the area of northern Utah, southeast Idaho, and western Wyoming. Until recentley I lived in Logan, Utah, and I am currently working on a personal project which involves photographing my favorite highway: US 89, which also happens to be the most scenic route for you to consider (NOT the fastest...but a gorgeous drive!) If you are interested in trying the route, here are the instructions: begin by traveling north on I-15 until you get to the first Brigham City exit (Exit 362) about 45 miles north of Downtown Salt Lake City. (You could opt for a short detour to visit the former Thiokol corporation- makers of the Space Shuttle booster engines, and Promontory Point/Golden Spike railroad center both located a few miles farther up I-15 and west about seven miles to Thiokol and twenty miles to Promontory.) Take exit 362 and head east past Brigham City on Highway 89/91 over the Wellsville mountain range to Cache Valley, (about 25 miles). Cache valley is the home of Utah State University, (my alma mater) and Logan, Utah. As you come into Logan, the highway heads due north and becomes Main Street. When you get to the intersection of 400 North, turn east (right) and you are now on US 89 scenic byway. You will stay on the highway all the way into Jackson, which is about 150 miles away. The things to see along the way would include: Two Mormon Tabernacles (NOT the famous Salt Lake City Tabernacle, home of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, but smaller, historic edifices; one in downtown Logan on the Northeast corner of Main and Center streets, and the other in Paris, Idaho. Believe me, you won't miss it- unless you miss Paris- not too difficult actually. Also in Logan, you may want to stop at the historic Blue Bird Cafe and candy shop on Main street, directly across from the tabernacle. It has been around...well...a long time. (My grandfather had his wedding luncheon there about 80 years ago). And USU offers some interesting architecture (Old main is about 120 years young) and excellent Aggie Ice cream too. There is a Mormon Temple in Logan also, but unfortunately, it does not offer a visiter's center- so be sure to visit Temple Square in Salt Lake City before leaving for Jackson. It is very interesting. Finally, if Space Research appeals to you, stop in at Space Dynamics Laboratory in the USU Technology Campus (1600 north and 200 east) for a tour. I used to work there...so tell them Brian sent you! As you leave Logan, you will travel through Logan Canyon, which is beautiful, but wind-y (with a long I!) and also currently under construction at the summit. Check www.udot.gov to be sure it is open and traversable. Also, be aware that much of this trip is over mountain passes, which can be very treacherous at this time of year. A four wheel drive or all wheel drive (or chains) are sometimes required! After the summit of Logan Canyon, you will have a quick descent to Bear Lake, on the border of Utah and Idaho. During the summer, Garden City offers travelers exquisite homemade raspberry shakes, but I think most of the shops/restaurants close for the winter months. The Idaho border is about 5 miles north of Garden City, and shortly after you will come to Paris, Idaho, (tabernacle). After Paris, you arrive in Montpilier, Idaho and the highway turns north again. You have to pay attention becuse after a block or two the route quickly heads east (right) again, up into the mountains. The next area of interest is Star Valley, Wyoming. If you pass through at meal time, try stopping at the Star Valley Cheese Factory and restaurant. It is where the locals eat. Just up the road a piece is Afton, home of the lesser-known antler arch (you won't miss it-it spans the road!) and, honestly, not much else. Now you are into the home stretch! Just past Afton you come to a bridge that crosses the Snake river and then the highway will turn north (right) at Alpine junction and finally to Jackson Hole. As long as the snow barriers are not down, just enjoy the drive through the canyon. There are lots of pullouts for viewing the river (in the summer there are lots of white-water rafters floating this part of the Snake). Once you arrive in Jackson, there are LOTS of shops, galleries, restaurants, resorts, etc. to check out. My personal favorites are the National Wildlife Art Museum and the adjacent Elk refuge just north of town about 3 miles. Also, if you enjoy photography (I teach it) visit Oswald gallery to see original works by Ansel Adams, Edward Weston, Jerry Uelsman, Yousef Karsh and others. Also see the Grand Tetons which are stunning on a crisp, clear morning! Well, that is about it. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. If you are able to take the trip, I would love to know what you thought of it! Also, if you are interested, I am (trying) to get a website put together to display the photographs of US 89 that I have taken. The project, when complete, will document each mileof the entire length of the historical route of the highway, from the Canadian border at Piegan, Montana, to the Mexican border at Nogales, Arizona. Happy trails! Brian Atkinson BYU-Idaho, Department of Art Rexburg, Idaho Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beckyrepp Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Dear AMERICAN ROAD Yahoo Group members, No doubt some of you have already heard the sad news that Dee Dee Belt passed away on Sunday. For those of you who don't know Dee Dee, she was the current owner of the famous Blue Whale on Route 66 in Catoosa, Oklahoma. The Blue Whale is a classic roadside attraction that entertained young and old alike. Dee Dee was the daughter of Hugh Davis - who built the Whale for his beloved wife - Zelta Davis. Dee Dee had been slipping away for the past month. We had the privilege of getting to know Dee Dee as a result of Thomas writing Route 66: The Empires of Amusement. Dee Dee was very much like Zelta - strong, true to her word, and loving. We had the privilege of speaking with her about 2 weeks ago and had the opportunity to tell her how much we loved her. Blaine, her brother, called us on Sunday with the sad news of Dee Dee's passing. Words cannot express our sadness. The sparkle in the eye of the Blue Whale has dimmed with Dee Dee's passing. He is now a monument to her spirit. Tulsa World has the following: http://www.tulsaworld.com/Deaths.asp DEATHS FOR 1/11/2006 Under section STATE/AREA Becky Repp American Road GM becky@mockturtlepress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roaddog_rt66 Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Sorry to hear of her passing. It always hurts when someone that is so tied to 66 leaves us. This makes it all the more important to visit and talk with the original 66ers while they are still with us. What will happen to the Blue Whale now? RoadDog --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "beckyrepp" <becky@m...> wrote: > > > Dear AMERICAN ROAD Yahoo Group members, > > No doubt some of you have already heard the sad news that Dee Dee Belt > passed away on Sunday. For those of you who don't know Dee Dee, she > was the current owner of the famous Blue Whale on Route 66 in Catoosa, > Oklahoma. The Blue Whale is a classic roadside attraction that > entertained young and old alike. > > Dee Dee was the daughter of Hugh Davis - who built the Whale for his > beloved wife - Zelta Davis. Dee Dee had been slipping away for the > past month. We had the privilege of getting to know Dee Dee as a > result of Thomas writing Route 66: The Empires of Amusement. Dee Dee > was very much like Zelta - strong, true to her word, and loving. We > had the privilege of speaking with her about 2 weeks ago and had the > opportunity to tell her how much we loved her. Blaine, her brother, > called us on Sunday with the sad news of Dee Dee's passing. > > Words cannot express our sadness. The sparkle in the eye of the Blue > Whale has dimmed with Dee Dee's passing. He is now a monument to her > spirit. > > Tulsa World has the following: > http://www.tulsaworld.com/Deaths.asp DEATHS FOR 1/11/2006 Under > section STATE/AREA > > Becky Repp > American Road GM > becky@m... > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bill Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Another interesting highway that is lightly traveled and seldom talked about is US14. This road starts in Chicago and ends at the main entrance to Yellowstone National Park. Quite an interesting little highway with only one area that I know of where it is seperated. Has anyone travelled this highway? Bill Kruser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brownwho63 Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 We've driven the National Road across IL, IN, and partially across OH and enjoyed every mile. The Blue Star Highway on the west side of MI that runs along Lake Michigan is also an outstanding trip. I highly recommend all of the above as a cure for cabin fever....Bliss --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "okydokey89" <okydokey@a...> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > I'm a new member here and was curious if anyone has suggestions for > weekend trips in Michigan, Ohio or Indiana. Is the National Road > thru Ohio and Indiana a good drive? We are going nuts with cabin > fever and anxious to get out and ramble around a bit. > > Thanks in advance, > > Jabba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 There is a motel in Louisiana called the River's Edge (or it was there a few years ago)...it is right next to the Bridge on the Mo side on a bluff overlooking the river...the Motel is nothing special but the location is awesome! The Town of Louisiana is really cool, and if you want to take an awesome drive, the drive up SR 79 from Louisiana to Hannibal is amazing! Tsingtao Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "brownwho63" <brownwho63@yahoo.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:08 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: U.S. 54 > My wife and I lived in Pittsfield when we were kids and the photos > are of very familiar "icons." My uncle owned the Green Acres Motel > and I used to cut grass there and do some landscaping for a whopping > $.75 per hour when I was in grade school. (Don't remember anything > about a movie photo.) The Cardinal Inn (we referred to it as The > Bird) was a hangout for every kid who could get there. A constant > parade of cool cars drove through the lot. Lots of burnt rubber out > front on old 36/54. Spent lots of weekend afternoons at the Zoe > and, later, lots of memorable evenings at the Clark Drive In. The > bridge at Louisiana is still a narrow experience. Lots of > memories....Bliss > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "rwarn17588" <rwarn17588@...> > wrote: > > > > Recently, I took a trip on U.S. 54 from western Illinois to eastern > > Kansas. > > > > Here is a Web site that shows plenty of photos from the trip -- and > > hopefully some travel and lodging ideas. > > > > http://rwarn17588.wordpress.com/us-54/ > > > > Yes, it's my Route 66 site. But I don't think anyone will mind if I > > include some other roadie material. > > > > Ron Warnick > > Tulsa, OK > > www.route66news.org > > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rwarn17588 Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 I encountered the River's Edge Motel during my trip on U.S. 54. It's still open. It costs about $42 a night, according to an Internet search I did. That's pretty good, considering its exceptional location. I was about as happy as I could be with the Green Acres Motel in Pittsfield, though. No regrets. Ron Warnick Tulsa, OK www.route66news.org --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <rudkip@...> wrote: > > There is a motel in Louisiana called the River's Edge (or it was there a few > years ago)...it is right next to the Bridge on the Mo side on a bluff > overlooking the river...the Motel is nothing special but the location is > awesome! The Town of Louisiana is really cool, and if you want to take an > awesome drive, the drive up SR 79 from Louisiana to Hannibal is amazing! > Tsingtao Kip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest desert-moon@juno.com Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Hi everyone! I just joined this group, but haven't had time to post. I live in Southern/Central CA, on the coast, city of Santa Barbara (not where I want to retire, just here because of family). I just saw this topic and had to respond. I have heard many Mid-Western folks, call it "pop", while out here in the West, we call it soda. Same as "dresser" or "chest of drawers". I have heard it called chest of drawers by other folks. Sofa, couch? ..... Alda > > > > By the way, do you call them soft drinks, sodas, or pops. I have > > > heard that you can tell where someone is from by how they refer to > > > those carbonated drinks. Anyone out there have any opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roaddog_rt66 Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 We are celebrating the 50th anniversary of the US Interstate System this year. One of the celebrations will be a convoy from San Francisco to Washington, D.C., to take place this June 15-19th. This will retrace, in reverse, the famous troop convoy taken by a young Lt. Col. Dwight D. Eisenhower back in 1919. Today, it could be done in a matter of days. Back then, it took 56 days of great difficulties. This ingrained upon his mind the importance of a major highway system that would enable troops and supplies to be moved across the US in a quicker fashion. This becamne even more apparent when US forces entered Germany, and encountered the Autobahn. Various celebrations are planned in the states the trip covered. You can find out more information at: http://interstate50th.org/reinactment.shtml Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jennifer Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Reese" <reesed@...> wrote: > > Jennifer, Sounds like you would need to go to Germany... > > Dave Reese > Allentown PA Yeah, I saw that...besides, I wouldn't be able to afford it, even if they had them in the U.S. I know I don't have Ron's parallel parking proficiency (and I won't say that three times fast! LOL), but I do OK. Certainly not bad enough to justify such an extravgance! Jennifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 I know this is not the venue for selling things - but I have the two Northeast tourbooks, 1936 with black cover and 1938 with faded red cover, that I'd like to see go to a group member(s). Both are in very good condtion, missing only the loose map - the touring route maps are still attached. Email for price and details. Hudsonly, Alex Burr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Les Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 I am about to begin a restoration of my '74 MGBGT. I think it will be cool to take the finished product on a year long vacation. Has anyone done something like that? Does anyone know where I can get a list of arboretuems/gardens, auto museums, plane museums and festivals? This is going to be grand. thanks Les Mauldin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 When I made plans to attend the Ohio Lincoln Highway League meeting on April 23, I was thinking of a nice spring drive wearing shorts and sunglasses. What I'm getting is cold rain with jeans & long sleeves. But that's OK. I'm still going to the meeting and I'm still driving the Lincoln Highway from West Virginia to Indian and I'm still enjoying it. First day's pictures and chatter at http://www.dennygibson.com/ohlh0405 --Denny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Someone get that girl a drinking hat!!! nyuk! nyuk! nyuk! nyuk! --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Ward" <flyboy1946@h...> wrote: > Jim, > > The pictures I sent you of Shellee at the Blue Swallow in July 2003 are now in the group's photo files. > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Ross<mailto:pathfinder66@e...> > To: American Road<mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 7:38 AM > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Spyware, etc. > > > Finally, Mike, by all means post that photo of Shellee at the Blue Swallow. As a matter of fact, I think she should use it as her "signature" photo. haha. > > Thanks again, everybody. > > Jim R. > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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