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I'm forwarding this information from several articles in a recent issue of Nat'l

 

Motorists Assn. Foundation Newsletter. I thought it would be of interest to the

 

"roadies" insomuch as the 2006 Steinbeck Awards are considering "the Duke city"

 

as it's location.

 

 

 

I think there is a serious possibility that some "roadies" might be affected by

 

the policies of the mayor and the city.

 

 

 

Perhaps several letters to the Mayor such as the one I've included in this email

 

is in order. I spoke to David Knudson and he is in agreement that a concerted

 

effort might be in order to prevent these things from happening during the

 

event.

 

 

 

Hank Hallmark

 

 

 

An open letter to Mayor Chavez of Albuquerque, New Mexico:

 

 

 

I read in the July/August issue of NMAF NEWS that you and members of your city

 

council have used the city's "public nuisance" ordinance to justify permanently

 

seizing the vehicle of anyone "accused" of DWI or, anybody who receives a second

 

red-light camera ticket will lose their vehicle for thirty days, even if the

 

owner isn't driving the vehicle.

 

 

 

Has it ever occurred to you that this is a violation of due process laws and the

 

Constitution of the United States of America? Police in your city are obviously

 

being used by you and your city council to raise revenue. The cameras at stop

 

lights are all about raising revenue, nothing more, and nothing less.

 

 

 

Mayor Chavez, every fall and every spring, for years, my wife and I pass through

 

Albuquerque on our way to our winter residence. We stay in Albuquerque at least

 

fifty percent of the time we go through your city...we spend upwards of $125 at

 

a time. You can be certain that from now on, we will avoid Albuquerque....

 

 

 

Search and Seizure:

 

 

 

States conducting automotive seizure rely on a doctrine found in a 1931 Supreme

 

Court ruling stating, "It is the property which is preceded against, and, by

 

resort to a legal fiction, held guilty and condemned as though it were conscious

 

instead of inanimate and insentient." In other words, it's OK to confiscate

 

your car because you forgot to pay an $85 parking ticket; you didn't commit the

 

crime, your car did.

 

 

 

In 1980, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals reaffirmed the concept, convicting a

 

1976 Mercedes Benz 280S of drugrunning. The Bill of Rights, the court argued,

 

applies to people not to cars.

 

 

 

Albuquerque, New Mexico agrees. It's the first jurisdiction to combine a seizure

 

ordinance with a red light camera. If your car-no matter who was driving-blows

 

through two red lights, they'll take it for thirty days. The more cities follow

 

suit, adopting get-rich-quick red light and speed camera schemes, the more

 

likely you are to lose your wheels. If you forget to file a change of address

 

form with the city, or the post offices loses your ticket in the mail, the first

 

time you realize you've committed a "crime" will be when your car disappears.

 

 

 

The Supreme Court's ruling on home seizures is a wakeup call to every American.

 

While the issue is hot, contact your state legislator and demand repeal of

 

automobile seizure laws as well. Otherwise, the state will soon become the

 

number one practitioner of grand theft auto, with your car constantly in its

 

sights.

 

 

 

NMA Foundation And ACLU Win Critical Victory

 

 

 

As we reported to you in the last issue of the NMAF NEWS, the NMA Foundation

 

issued a Legal Aid Grant to American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)-New Mexico to

 

help with its recent legal challenge to a new vehicle seizure ordinance in

 

Albuquerque.

 

 

 

The law would have allowed the city to seize the car of anyone suspected of a

 

DWI, even first-time offenders. The ordinance didn't require a conviction. The

 

vehicle would have been seized when the suspect is stopped. He or she could then

 

contest the seizure with a city hearing officer or agree to have an immobilizing

 

"boot" placed on the vehicle for 30 days. To get the boot removed, offenders

 

would have had to install an ignition interlock on the vehicle for six months or

 

a year. In "extreme" cases, the city would simply sell the vehicle at auction.

 

 

 

The ACLU convinced the District Court Judge to issue a temporary injunction

 

against the enforcement of the ordinance, while they prepared their case. In

 

August, the ACLU took the city to court, and the judge struck down the

 

ordinance.

 

 

 

In her decision, the judge cited "serious procedural due process problems" with

 

the city's law. The judge said the ruling was on constitutional grounds, and

 

focused

 

primarily on one sentence in the ordinance: "The city hearing officer shall only

 

determine whether the law enforcement officer had probable cause to seize the

 

vehicle." The judge said the ordinance didn't spell out what the hearing officer

 

would do to ensure drivers would have a fair, timely and constitutionally

 

mandated hearing.

 

 

 

"We're very happy and feel like the judge ruled as we would've liked," said

 

Peter Simonson, Executive Director of the ACLU New Mexico. Simonson also said

 

the judge's decision could pave the way for similar rulings in ACLU challenges

 

to other laws that allow the city to seize people's vehicles.

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Guest Bakerhab@aol.com

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

 

September 22, 2005

 

 

 

 

 

Gov. Blagojevich applauds U.S. recognition of Historic Rt. 66 and Illinois

 

River Road

 

U.S Department of Transportation names famed routes aˆ?National Scenic Bywaysaˆ?

 

 

 

 

 

SPRINGFIELD aˆ“ Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich today applauded the aˆ?National

 

Scenic Bywaysaˆ? designation by the U.S. Department of Transportation for two

 

storied transportation routes in Illinois: Route 66 and the Illinois River Road.

 

The

 

designation means that the routes are added to the national list of Scenic

 

Byways and are eligible to apply for grant funding that can be used for

 

marketing, visitor centers, landscaping and other amenities.

 

 

 

aˆ?Route 66 winds more than 2,000 miles from Chicago to L.A. and is so much

 

more than just a highway. Itaˆ™s a symbol of our love for the open road and that

 

can-do spirit of individualism and adventure that is such a vital part of the

 

American way of life. The Illinois River Road is a window to our rich Native

 

American cultural legacy and the natural splendors of our state. The new

 

designations for these two routes will help us attract even more visitors to

 

Illinois,aˆ? said Gov. Blagojevich.

 

 

 

The announcement of the designation of two new Scenic Byways in Illinois was

 

made in Washington D.C. today by U.S. Secretary of Transportation Norman

 

Mineta, who was acting on applications submitted by two local groups aˆ“ the

 

Route 66

 

Heritage Project and the Peoria Area Convention and Visitors Bureau - through

 

the Illinois Department of Transportation (IDOT).

 

 

 

To make the Scenic Byways designation a reality, Gov. Blagojevich provided

 

more than $500,000 in Opportunity Returns support through the Illinois Bureau of

 

Tourism, which coordinated the strategic effort to highlight these important

 

historical destinations as part of its efforts to grow tourism in Illinois.

 

Both byways will bring new attention to existing tourism assets and complement

 

the Mile After Magnificent Mile marketing campaign that highlights the state's

 

3-Day Getaway destinations.

 

 

 

"The designation of the Illinois River Road as a national scenic byway is a

 

tremendous boost to nature-based tourism in Illinois River Country," said Lt.

 

Gov. Patrick Quinn. "Our scenic byway provides the gateway for everyone across

 

the country to enjoy the bird-watching, wildlife viewing, hiking, biking,

 

fishing, boating, and camping that Illinois River Country offers."

 

 

 

aˆ?When you talk about the heritage of Illinois you are talking about the

 

history of transportation in America,aˆ? said IDOT Secretary Tim Martin.

 

aˆ?Thataˆ™s why

 

IDOT is proud to play a role in highlighting and bringing to life the stories

 

of Route 66 and the Illinois River Road, two fabled routes that have played

 

such an important role in the history of our state and nation.aˆ?

 

 

 

"Illinois has been an important part of the journey as so many people

 

crisscrossed America for generations, and the Route 66 and Illinois River Road

 

Scenic

 

Byway designations support Gov. Blagojevich's efforts to build Illinois'

 

tourism industry. Thanks to this national recognition, more visitors will see

 

'Mile After Magnificent Mile' of Illinois that will ultimately support even more

 

businesses and jobs across our state," Illinois Department of Commerce and

 

Economic Opportunity (DCEO) Director Jack Lavin said.

 

 

 

The starting point of Route 66 aˆ“ which was immortalized by the song aˆ?(Get

 

Your Kicks On) Route 66,aˆ? performed by Nat King Cole, the Rolling Stones and

 

many others aˆ“ is at the corner of Lake Shore Drive and Jackson Blvd. in

 

Chicago.

 

The route winds through Chicago on various streets to southbound Interstate

 

55. It travels along much of I-55 and its frontage road, except for a loop from

 

Plainfield to Braceville along Old US 66 and another loop along Route 4 from

 

Springfield to south of Staunton, where it again meets the primary route along

 

I-55. The Illinois portion of Route 66 covers 420 miles and ends in East St.

 

Louis at the Martin Luther King Memorial Bridge.

 

 

 

The Illinois River Road, known as aˆ?the Route of the Voyageurs,aˆ? after the

 

early French explorers, covers 271 miles through the heart of the state and runs

 

from Ottawa to Havana. It includes much of Routes 26 and 29 on each side of

 

the river.

 

 

 

IDOT and DCEO worked closely with the two local groups in applying for the

 

designation. IDOT installed directional signing for both Route 66 and the

 

Illinois River Road in 1996.

 

 

 

Once a road is designated as a National Scenic Byway, they receive national

 

recognition on the www.byways.org website and they are actively promoted as

 

tourist destinations by the Federal Highway Administration.

 

 

 

Scenic Byways are eligible to apply for a $25,000 annual seed grant for

 

administration of the byway for the first 5 years. They are also eligible to

 

apply

 

for grant funds for marketing, landscaping and construction of visitor

 

centers and other amenities. Since 1992, the National Scenic Byways Program has

 

provided funding for almost 1,500 state and nationally designated byway projects

 

in 48 states.

 

Illinois previously had five routes on the list of National Scenic Byways:

 

The Great River Road along the Mississippi River; the Illinois portion of the

 

Historic National Road, which cuts across the southern half of the state;

 

Lincoln Highway, which starts south of Chicago and travels along US Rt. 30 and

 

IL

 

Rt. 38 to Fulton; the Meeting of the Great Rivers Scenic Route in the Metro East

 

area, at the confluence of the Mississippi, Missouri and Illinois Rivers; and

 

the Ohio River Scenic Byway, along the southern edge of the state.

 

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Let me be sure I understand your statement: "I think

 

there is a serious possibility that some 'roadies'

 

might be affected by the policies of the mayor and the

 

city." I, for one, have no intention of being

 

arrested for DWI, nor do I plan on 'running two red

 

lights.'---AND I seriously doubt any others do

 

either!!! john w

 

 

 

--- Hank Hallmark <thehallmarks@earthlink.net> wrote:

 

 

 

> I'm forwarding this information from several

 

> articles in a recent issue of Nat'l Motorists Assn.

 

> Foundation Newsletter. I thought it would be of

 

> interest to the "roadies" insomuch as the 2006

 

> Steinbeck Awards are considering "the Duke city" as

 

> it's location.

 

>

 

> I think there is a serious possibility that some

 

> "roadies" might be affected by the policies of the

 

> mayor and the city.

 

>

 

> Perhaps several letters to the Mayor such as the one

 

> I've included in this email is in order. I spoke to

 

> David Knudson and he is in agreement that a

 

> concerted effort might be in order to prevent these

 

> things from happening during the event.

 

>

 

> Hank Hallmark

 

>

 

> An open letter to Mayor Chavez of Albuquerque, New

 

> Mexico:

 

>

 

> I read in the July/August issue of NMAF NEWS that

 

> you and members of your city council have used the

 

> city's "public nuisance" ordinance to justify

 

> permanently seizing the vehicle of anyone "accused"

 

> of DWI or, anybody who receives a second red-light

 

> camera ticket will lose their vehicle for thirty

 

> days, even if the owner isn't driving the vehicle.

 

>

 

> Has it ever occurred to you that this is a violation

 

> of due process laws and the Constitution of the

 

> United States of America? Police in your city are

 

> obviously being used by you and your city council to

 

> raise revenue. The cameras at stop lights are all

 

> about raising revenue, nothing more, and nothing

 

> less.

 

>

 

> Mayor Chavez, every fall and every spring, for

 

> years, my wife and I pass through Albuquerque on our

 

> way to our winter residence. We stay in Albuquerque

 

> at least fifty percent of the time we go through

 

> your city...we spend upwards of $125 at a time. You

 

> can be certain that from now on, we will avoid

 

> Albuquerque....

 

>

 

> Search and Seizure:

 

>

 

> States conducting automotive seizure rely on a

 

> doctrine found in a 1931 Supreme Court ruling

 

> stating, "It is the property which is preceded

 

> against, and, by resort to a legal fiction, held

 

> guilty and condemned as though it were conscious

 

> instead of inanimate and insentient." In other

 

> words, it's OK to confiscate your car because you

 

> forgot to pay an $85 parking ticket; you didn't

 

> commit the crime, your car did.

 

>

 

> In 1980, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals reaffirmed

 

> the concept, convicting a 1976 Mercedes Benz 280S of

 

> drugrunning. The Bill of Rights, the court argued,

 

> applies to people not to cars.

 

>

 

> Albuquerque, New Mexico agrees. It's the first

 

> jurisdiction to combine a seizure ordinance with a

 

> red light camera. If your car-no matter who was

 

> driving-blows through two red lights, they'll take

 

> it for thirty days. The more cities follow suit,

 

> adopting get-rich-quick red light and speed camera

 

> schemes, the more likely you are to lose your

 

> wheels. If you forget to file a change of address

 

> form with the city, or the post offices loses your

 

> ticket in the mail, the first time you realize

 

> you've committed a "crime" will be when your car

 

> disappears.

 

>

 

> The Supreme Court's ruling on home seizures is a

 

> wakeup call to every American. While the issue is

 

> hot, contact your state legislator and demand repeal

 

> of automobile seizure laws as well. Otherwise, the

 

> state will soon become the number one practitioner

 

> of grand theft auto, with your car constantly in its

 

> sights.

 

>

 

> NMA Foundation And ACLU Win Critical Victory

 

>

 

> As we reported to you in the last issue of the NMAF

 

> NEWS, the NMA Foundation issued a Legal Aid Grant to

 

> American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)-New Mexico to

 

> help with its recent legal challenge to a new

 

> vehicle seizure ordinance in Albuquerque.

 

>

 

> The law would have allowed the city to seize the car

 

> of anyone suspected of a DWI, even first-time

 

> offenders. The ordinance didn't require a

 

> conviction. The vehicle would have been seized when

 

> the suspect is stopped. He or she could then contest

 

> the seizure with a city hearing officer or agree to

 

> have an immobilizing "boot" placed on the vehicle

 

> for 30 days. To get the boot removed, offenders

 

> would have had to install an ignition interlock on

 

> the vehicle for six months or a year. In "extreme"

 

> cases, the city would simply sell the vehicle at

 

> auction.

 

>

 

> The ACLU convinced the District Court Judge to issue

 

> a temporary injunction against the enforcement of

 

> the ordinance, while they prepared their case. In

 

> August, the ACLU took the city to court, and the

 

> judge struck down the ordinance.

 

>

 

> In her decision, the judge cited "serious procedural

 

> due process problems" with the city's law. The judge

 

> said the ruling was on constitutional grounds, and

 

> focused

 

> primarily on one sentence in the ordinance: "The

 

> city hearing officer shall only determine whether

 

> the law enforcement officer had probable cause to

 

> seize the vehicle." The judge said the ordinance

 

> didn't spell out what the hearing officer would do

 

> to ensure drivers would have a fair, timely and

 

> constitutionally mandated hearing.

 

>

 

> "We're very happy and feel like the judge ruled as

 

> we would've liked," said Peter Simonson, Executive

 

> Director of the ACLU New Mexico. Simonson also said

 

> the judge's decision could pave the way for similar

 

> rulings in ACLU challenges to other laws that allow

 

> the city to seize people's vehicles.

 

>

 

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

 

> removed]

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest David Willman

Just forwarding on....some great American Roads in this years list.

 

 

 

- 66 Willy

 

 

 

Also, Historic 66 in Arizona too. I don't see the press release yet,

 

but found the link of all designated byways today. Cut and paste

 

this link. Many great trails have made it also.

 

I will post to the American Road group also.

 

 

 

http://www.byways.org/press/designation200...signations.html

 

 

 

 

 

> It's official. Illinois Route 66 has been accepted as a National

 

Scenic Byway. The two people, who really worked hard on the

 

paperwork and legwork in putting it altogether and getting this

 

accomplished are Patty Kuhn, former Illinois Route 66 Heritage

 

executive director, and Carl Johnson, 66 roadie, writer, etc.

 

>

 

> Thank-you very much to the two of you. To all the others that

 

played part in it, a special thanks to you, also.

 

>

 

> Eventually, there should be more info on it if you go to

 

www.byways.org. Nothing posted as of yet.

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http://www.abqtrib.com/albq/nw_local/artic...4179407,00.html

 

 

 

Saying goodbye to an old friend

 

Historic El Vado Motel will be remembered as a city treasure and a home to

 

Route 66 enthusiasts and people in financial need

 

 

 

By Maggie Shepard

 

Tribune Reporter

 

October 22, 2005

 

 

 

It feels like a camp cabin.

 

 

 

Sparsely decorated rooms hold mismatched furniture dwarfed by the high

 

ceiling's glossy cedar vigas.

 

 

 

El Vado Motel, age 68, is a funky spot, drawing near-broke monthly tenants

 

and Route 66 enthusiasts who thrill at waking up in a piece of history - no

 

matter how squeaky the mattress is.

 

 

 

Hailed by historians as one of the purest Route 66 vintage lodges, the motel

 

is slated for destruction.

 

 

 

Managers Sam and Fatima Kassam are packing their belongings and moving out.

 

After 15 years, they sold the motel to developer Richard Gonzales for an

 

undisclosed price.

 

 

 

Gonzales plans to build town homes on the site, although, after listening to

 

preservationists' pleas, he may keep the front lobby, the famous neon

 

American Indian head sign and perhaps a few rooms.

 

 

 

"It is run-down. We can't even give the beds away. I'm tired of looking at

 

it," Gonzales said. "I don't want to be in the preservation business."

 

 

 

Emily Priddy, a Route 66 preservationist and enthusiast, said she and fellow

 

fans would pay big money for a chunk of the motel's vigas, even a sink

 

handle, and especially the sign.

 

 

 

"Anything I can save, I'll take it," she said in an interview at the motel,

 

where she met with Gonzales earlier this week. "But I'm glad he's open to

 

the idea of saving some and keeping it open to the public."

 

 

 

However, Gonzales says the pool - a cool, inviting oasis for the millions

 

who traveled Route 66 when it was the nation's most famous highway and its

 

best way to get to California - must go.

 

 

 

So must most of El Vado's 33 rooms, built long before the interstate highway

 

system changed America, and its way of traveling from town to town.

 

 

 

The pool, sadly, appears beyond repair. It looks like an underground bunker,

 

covered in a shingled concrete slab, unused since who knows when.

 

 

 

The rooms, none larger than 20-by-15, seem sleepy. But they are neat and

 

don't smell 68 years old.

 

 

 

The carpet is vacuumed, the teal and mauve bedspreads crisply tucked beneath

 

thin mattresses. The bathrooms are clean, although the original black and

 

white mini-tiles have dulled.

 

 

 

Most of the beds rise two feet off the ground, some tipping at slight - or

 

not so slight - angles. The 19-inch televisions are cable-equipped and every

 

phone works.

 

 

 

The room doors, symmetrically flanked by evergreen shrubs, open onto a

 

central parking corridor. Some of the rooms come with their own attached,

 

covered carport.

 

 

 

"This is typical of the development of motor hotels," Priddy said.

 

 

 

The motel culture, she says, developed from camp sites, to cabins, to

 

connected cabins, to cabins with garages, to complexes of cabins with

 

garages and community areas.

 

 

 

Across the street from the city's Biological Park, El Vado abuts the

 

Albuquerque Country Club golf course and is surrounded by fenced-in,

 

overgrown lots.

 

 

 

"I'm going to open the property up. It is right on a golf course and they've

 

closed that off," Gonzales said.

 

 

 

His plans are for 10 Spanish Mission-style town homes priced between

 

$400,000 and $600,000.

 

 

 

"I want to revitalize this area. It is going to be nice. I care for this

 

area," said Gonzales, an Albuquerque native.

 

 

 

Gonzales is seeking a zoning change of the property, from commercial to

 

residential. He asked that a hearing Thursday before the Environmental

 

Planning Commission be deferred until December to give him time to gather

 

information about what, if anything, he can save.

 

 

 

He takes possession on Nov. 1, time enough for tenants - one has stayed two

 

years - to move out. Rates range from $31 to $45 a night.

 

 

 

The property will be fenced in and the rooms cleared of carpet and

 

furniture, "just to see what we have," Gonzales said.

 

 

 

At least two neighborhood associations - West Park and Riverview Heights -

 

have sent letters to the commission saying they are opposed to the zoning

 

change.

 

 

 

The Albuquerque Country Club's executive board has decided to remain

 

neutral, said General Manager Patrick Elwell.

 

 

 

Priddy, of Tulsa, Okla., and Jerry Ueckert, of Edgewood, told Gonzales

 

Thursday that they are willing to coordinate preservation of the front lobby

 

and adjoining rooms.

 

 

 

"Maybe we could do a bed and breakfast, anything," Priddy said.

 

 

 

She said the lobby, which includes living quarters for the motel keeper and

 

a lounge, would be perfect for meals.

 

 

 

For now, the lobby houses two hip-high bird cages and their feathered

 

tenants, scuffed leather lounge chairs and a glass stand that holds bumper

 

stickers and tourist pamphlets for sale.

 

 

 

Priddy left with one of the souvenirs: "We visited the world famous El Vado

 

Motel."

 

 

 

She hopes that's the only thing she'll ever have to take away.

 

 

 

"I want to save it all," she said. "But if I can't, well, we'll hopefully

 

save enough to remember."

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Guest Denny Gibson

Oops. It's the upcoming four day Thanksgiving weekend I'm thinking of. I see

 

I forgot that little detail.

 

 

 

Both the Hermitage and Homestead are places I wasn't aware of. Well, I was

 

aware that the Hermitage existed but not exactly where it was or that it

 

"visitable". I found this: http://plateauproperties.com/home.html on

 

Homestead. I had turned up Pall Mall on the web so knew that there was at

 

least one attraction on US-127. With the couple you've added along with

 

those on 27, I'm guessing I would enjoy either route home. That may have to

 

be a last minute decision.

 

 

 

One loose "plan" is to drive to Nashville on Thursday and spend Thursday and

 

Friday night there. Saturday would be spent on US-70 with stops at the

 

Hermitage and Homestead. A variation would be to work in the Hermitage on

 

Friday to allow more time for the east and north legs. Tentatively, that

 

puts me around Crossville/Kingston Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning.

 

 

 

Good info, Bob. Thanks.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: Bob Reynolds [mailto:roustabout@starband.net]

 

> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:59 PM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-70 etc. In Tennessee

 

>

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > I'm contemplating a weekend drive just slightly to my south and have hit

 

> > upon Nashville as a convenient and fun target. That lead me to the

 

> > possibility of driving US-70 toward Knoxville (to add some width)

 

> and either

 

> > US-27 or US-127 home to Cincy. So I'm soliciting comments. I'm

 

> particularly

 

> > looking for advise on the US-27 vs. US-127 and US-70 vs. US-70N

 

> decisions.

 

> > Noting favorite points of interest is always welcome.

 

> >

 

> > BabyBoomerBob, this is, of course, your neighborhood so I expect

 

> some good

 

> > hints from you. Also, if this outing actually takes place, is there

 

> a diner

 

> > or other spot where we might meet for coffee & chatter? Maybe somewhere

 

> > around Kingston or Crossville?

 

> >

 

> > Denny Gibson

 

> > Cincinnati, OH

 

> > www.DennyGibson.com

 

> >

 

>

 

> Ack! You sure know how to put a feller on the spot:) I'm not as

 

> familiar with this area as I should be, but I'll let you know what I

 

> do know of.

 

>

 

> Heading east on US 70 from Nashville, you'll be just a hop, skip

 

> and a jump from Andy Jackson's home, the Hermitage. As for whether to

 

> take 70 or 70 N, it's pretty much a tossup, although as far as the

 

> rolling hills of the Highland Rim country go, I favor 70N.

 

>

 

> One place I've been meaning to see more of is Homestead. It's a

 

> town just south of Crossville near the junction of US 127 and SR 68,

 

> created by the WPA (I think) during FDR's administration. Most of the

 

> homes there have Cumberland Mountain sandstone facing. I've mentioned

 

> this sandstone on my Dixie Highway writeup. Crossville is where it

 

> comes from.

 

>

 

> If you choose 127 as your way home, there are a couple of spots I

 

> can point out. I've been to a restaurant in Jamestown called the Mark

 

> Twain Restaurant. I recall it being a nice mom and pop place, but

 

> it's been a number of years ago. Twain's father was from Jamestown.

 

>

 

> Somewhere near Jamestown (maybe out SR 154) I remember seeing an

 

> ad for a sort of a general store that carried "Big Orange Dope".

 

> Calling a soda a "dope" is a southern holdover from the days when Coca

 

> Cola contained cocaine. I need to check and see if it's still around.

 

>

 

> A bit further north on 127 is Pall Mall, the hometown of Sgt.

 

> Alvin York. The York gristmill is still there and part of a state

 

> historic site. Beyond that, I'm not terribly familiar with 127:(

 

>

 

> Now if you choose 27, you'll go through Rockwood. That old Pure

 

> station is about a block east on the main highway on the old

 

> alignment. I forget which corner it's at, though:( You might do well

 

> to swing right onto the old route just below town and follow it in.

 

> You'll want to go back to the main drag afterwards, for if you keep to

 

> the old road you'll find yourself headed east on 70 towards Kingston.

 

>

 

> North of Rockwood is Harriman. It takes pride that it was

 

> founded as a temperance community where demon rum was forbidden for

 

> many years. But that's pretty much in the past these days:) Lots of

 

> nice architecture and a neat looking railroad bridge:)

 

>

 

> Much of 27 is being straightened and four laned, most likely to

 

> promote tourism at Big South Fork Ntl. River and Recreation Area.

 

> Once you get over the Kentucky line there's the town of Stearns where

 

> a scenic railway takes you to Blue Heron, the site of an old coal

 

> mining camp. When the Ntl. Park Service renovated the area they built

 

> "skeleton" buildings on the site of the original structures. Seems

 

> the place is still prone to flooding and this makes it easier to clean

 

> up afterward:) They found everyone they could find who had lived at

 

> Blue Heron and interviewed them on tape. When you go to these

 

> "skeleton" buildings you can press a button and hear relevant parts of

 

> these tapes about each of the buildings.

 

>

 

> Blue Heron can also be reached by road. Heading north in 27, go

 

> left on KY 592 and follow the signs.

 

>

 

> Sadly, that's about all the info I can give you on these

 

> highways. But I will do this. Some of my coworkers live in the

 

> Kingston area and I'll ask them about diners. I *do* want to meet

 

> you! Just let me know what weekend you'll be down. We can try to

 

> make arrangements then.

 

>

 

> Happy Motoring,

 

>

 

> BabyBoomerBob

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Guest thewoltersfamily

Hello!

 

 

 

We will be traveling between Little Rock and Rio Rancho, NM this week

 

and 95% of the trip is on I-40. Are there some cool "Americana" things

 

to see along the way or not too far off track?

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

Brian

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Guest Denny Gibson

Once you are west of Oklahoma City, I-40 parallels or buries much of the

 

former US-66. In Oklahoma, there are Route 66 museums in Clinton and Elk

 

City and the Sand Hill Curiosity Shop is in Erick. The Roger Miller Museum

 

is there, too. Texas, offers the U-Drop-Inn in Shamrock and the Devil's Rope

 

Museum in McLean. You can't miss the giant cross at Groom and shouldn't have

 

to look too hard for the nearby "leaning tower of Texas". Plus there is

 

Cadillac Ranch in Amarillo. In New Mexico, swing through Tucumcari for some

 

classic motels including the Blue Swallow.

 

 

 

I can't speak from personal experience but I imagine that at least some

 

expressway travelers won't find these "too far off track". Of course, after

 

you've visited a couple of them and driven a little of the old road, you may

 

find that you don't really mind being a little off track once in awhile:-)

 

 

 

Denny Gibson

 

Cincinnati, OH

 

www.DennyGibson.com

 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: thewoltersfamily [mailto:thewoltersfamily@yahoo.com]

 

> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:24 AM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] I-40 Sights

 

>

 

> Hello!

 

>

 

> We will be traveling between Little Rock and Rio Rancho, NM

 

> this week and 95% of the trip is on I-40. Are there some cool

 

> "Americana" things to see along the way or not too far off track?

 

>

 

> Thanks!

 

> Brian

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Guest usroadman

For anyone who is interested in what US 34 looks like, I finally

 

uploaded the photos I took when I drove the route from just outside

 

Chicago to Granby, CO in September. There are photos of the road

 

every 60 miles or so as it travels across the plains and into the Rockies.

 

 

 

The photos can be accessed from this link:

 

http://www.usroadman.com/us34links.htm

 

 

 

From this page you can view individual photos, or slideshows of the

 

route as it travels across the country.

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Oops. It's the upcoming four day Thanksgiving weekend I'm thinking

 

of. I see

 

> I forgot that little detail.

 

>

 

> Both the Hermitage and Homestead are places I wasn't aware of. Well,

 

I was

 

> aware that the Hermitage existed but not exactly where it was or that it

 

> "visitable". I found this: http://plateauproperties.com/home.html on

 

> Homestead. I had turned up Pall Mall on the web so knew that there

 

was at

 

> least one attraction on US-127. With the couple you've added along with

 

> those on 27, I'm guessing I would enjoy either route home. That may

 

have to

 

> be a last minute decision.

 

>

 

> One loose "plan" is to drive to Nashville on Thursday and spend

 

Thursday and

 

> Friday night there. Saturday would be spent on US-70 with stops at the

 

> Hermitage and Homestead. A variation would be to work in the

 

Hermitage on

 

> Friday to allow more time for the east and north legs. Tentatively, that

 

> puts me around Crossville/Kingston Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning.

 

>

 

> Good info, Bob. Thanks.

 

>

 

> --Denny

 

 

 

I've asked at work, and the most likely spot to get together I've

 

found is Chase's Drugs Store and Diner in Harriman. It's right on the

 

main drag (US 27), but I've never been there. If you head home on US

 

127, that poses a bit more of a problem. The only places I know in

 

Crossville are chains, like Wendy's. Any idea how we could time

 

getting together?

 

 

 

One more attraction off US 27 I'd forgotten. Back in the 1800's

 

a bunch of landless English gentry founded a "colony" in the town of

 

Rugby. The settlement didn't thrive, but left some very nice

 

Victorian homes. To get there head west on TN 52 at Elgin.

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Guest Brian Atkinson

Dave,

 

 

 

I am pretty familiar with the area of northern Utah, southeast

 

Idaho, and western Wyoming. Until recentley I lived in Logan, Utah, and

 

I am currently working on a personal project which involves

 

photographing my favorite highway: US 89, which also happens to be the

 

most scenic route for you to consider (NOT the fastest...but a gorgeous

 

drive!)

 

If you are interested in trying the route, here are the

 

instructions: begin by traveling north on I-15 until you get to the

 

first Brigham City exit (Exit 362) about 45 miles north of Downtown Salt

 

Lake City. (You could opt for a short detour to visit the former Thiokol

 

corporation- makers of the Space Shuttle booster engines, and Promontory

 

Point/Golden Spike railroad center both located a few miles farther up

 

I-15 and west about seven miles to Thiokol and twenty miles to

 

Promontory.) Take exit 362 and head east past Brigham City on Highway

 

89/91 over the Wellsville mountain range to Cache Valley, (about 25

 

miles). Cache valley is the home of Utah State University, (my alma

 

mater) and Logan, Utah. As you come into Logan, the highway heads due

 

north and becomes Main Street. When you get to the intersection of 400

 

North, turn east (right) and you are now on US 89 scenic byway. You will

 

stay on the highway all the way into Jackson, which is about 150 miles away.

 

The things to see along the way would include: Two Mormon

 

Tabernacles (NOT the famous Salt Lake City Tabernacle, home of the

 

Mormon Tabernacle Choir, but smaller, historic edifices; one in downtown

 

Logan on the Northeast corner of Main and Center streets, and the other

 

in Paris, Idaho. Believe me, you won't miss it- unless you miss Paris-

 

not too difficult actually. Also in Logan, you may want to stop at the

 

historic Blue Bird Cafe and candy shop on Main street, directly across

 

from the tabernacle. It has been around...well...a long time. (My

 

grandfather had his wedding luncheon there about 80 years ago). And USU

 

offers some interesting architecture (Old main is about 120 years young)

 

and excellent Aggie Ice cream too. There is a Mormon Temple in Logan

 

also, but unfortunately, it does not offer a visiter's center- so be

 

sure to visit Temple Square in Salt Lake City before leaving for

 

Jackson. It is very interesting. Finally, if Space Research appeals to

 

you, stop in at Space Dynamics Laboratory in the USU Technology Campus

 

(1600 north and 200 east) for a tour. I used to work there...so tell

 

them Brian sent you!

 

As you leave Logan, you will travel through Logan Canyon, which is

 

beautiful, but wind-y (with a long I!) and also currently under

 

construction at the summit. Check www.udot.gov to be sure it is open and

 

traversable. Also, be aware that much of this trip is over mountain

 

passes, which can be very treacherous at this time of year. A four wheel

 

drive or all wheel drive (or chains) are sometimes required! After the

 

summit of Logan Canyon, you will have a quick descent to Bear Lake, on

 

the border of Utah and Idaho. During the summer, Garden City offers

 

travelers exquisite homemade raspberry shakes, but I think most of the

 

shops/restaurants close for the winter months. The Idaho border is about

 

5 miles north of Garden City, and shortly after you will come to Paris,

 

Idaho, (tabernacle).

 

After Paris, you arrive in Montpilier, Idaho and the highway turns

 

north again. You have to pay attention becuse after a block or two the

 

route quickly heads east (right) again, up into the mountains. The next

 

area of interest is Star Valley, Wyoming. If you pass through at meal

 

time, try stopping at the Star Valley Cheese Factory and restaurant. It

 

is where the locals eat. Just up the road a piece is Afton, home of the

 

lesser-known antler arch (you won't miss it-it spans the road!) and,

 

honestly, not much else. Now you are into the home stretch! Just past

 

Afton you come to a bridge that crosses the Snake river and then the

 

highway will turn north (right) at Alpine junction and finally to

 

Jackson Hole. As long as the snow barriers are not down, just enjoy the

 

drive through the canyon. There are lots of pullouts for viewing the

 

river (in the summer there are lots of white-water rafters floating this

 

part of the Snake). Once you arrive in Jackson, there are LOTS of shops,

 

galleries, restaurants, resorts, etc. to check out. My personal

 

favorites are the National Wildlife Art Museum and the adjacent Elk

 

refuge just north of town about 3 miles. Also, if you enjoy photography

 

(I teach it) visit Oswald gallery to see original works by Ansel Adams,

 

Edward Weston, Jerry Uelsman, Yousef Karsh and others. Also see the

 

Grand Tetons which are stunning on a crisp, clear morning!

 

Well, that is about it. If you have any questions, please feel free

 

to contact me. If you are able to take the trip, I would love to know

 

what you thought of it! Also, if you are interested, I am (trying) to

 

get a website put together to display the photographs of US 89 that I

 

have taken. The project, when complete, will document each mileof the

 

entire length of the historical route of the highway, from the Canadian

 

border at Piegan, Montana, to the Mexican border at Nogales, Arizona.

 

 

 

Happy trails!

 

 

 

Brian Atkinson

 

BYU-Idaho, Department of Art

 

Rexburg, Idaho

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Brian,

 

Thanks for the advice. I will file this on my Palm for the trip and will let you

 

know if

 

we are able to make this trip using this route...wish me luck on the weather and

 

construction.

 

 

 

Dave Reese

 

Allentown PA

 

Home of Brooklands Speedway and Cherrington Park

 

http://www.geocities.com/brooklandsspeedway

 

<http://www.geocities.com/brooklandsspeedway>

 

<http://www.summerharmony.com>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

[mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Brian Atkinson

 

Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:25 AM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: From Salt Lake City to Jackson Hole

 

 

 

 

 

Dave,

 

 

 

I am pretty familiar with the area of northern Utah, southeast

 

Idaho, and western Wyoming. Until recentley I lived in Logan, Utah, and

 

I am currently working on a personal project which involves

 

photographing my favorite highway: US 89, which also happens to be the

 

most scenic route for you to consider (NOT the fastest...but a gorgeous

 

drive!)

 

If you are interested in trying the route, here are the

 

instructions: begin by traveling north on I-15 until you get to the

 

first Brigham City exit (Exit 362) about 45 miles north of Downtown Salt

 

Lake City. (You could opt for a short detour to visit the former Thiokol

 

corporation- makers of the Space Shuttle booster engines, and Promontory

 

Point/Golden Spike railroad center both located a few miles farther up

 

I-15 and west about seven miles to Thiokol and twenty miles to

 

Promontory.) Take exit 362 and head east past Brigham City on Highway

 

89/91 over the Wellsville mountain range to Cache Valley, (about 25

 

miles). Cache valley is the home of Utah State University, (my alma

 

mater) and Logan, Utah. As you come into Logan, the highway heads due

 

north and becomes Main Street. When you get to the intersection of 400

 

North, turn east (right) and you are now on US 89 scenic byway. You will

 

stay on the highway all the way into Jackson, which is about 150 miles away.

 

The things to see along the way would include: Two Mormon

 

Tabernacles (NOT the famous Salt Lake City Tabernacle, home of the

 

Mormon Tabernacle Choir, but smaller, historic edifices; one in downtown

 

Logan on the Northeast corner of Main and Center streets, and the other

 

in Paris, Idaho. Believe me, you won't miss it- unless you miss Paris-

 

not too difficult actually. Also in Logan, you may want to stop at the

 

historic Blue Bird Cafe and candy shop on Main street, directly across

 

from the tabernacle. It has been around...well...a long time. (My

 

grandfather had his wedding luncheon there about 80 years ago). And USU

 

offers some interesting architecture (Old main is about 120 years young)

 

and excellent Aggie Ice cream too. There is a Mormon Temple in Logan

 

also, but unfortunately, it does not offer a visiter's center- so be

 

sure to visit Temple Square in Salt Lake City before leaving for

 

Jackson. It is very interesting. Finally, if Space Research appeals to

 

you, stop in at Space Dynamics Laboratory in the USU Technology Campus

 

(1600 north and 200 east) for a tour. I used to work there...so tell

 

them Brian sent you!

 

As you leave Logan, you will travel through Logan Canyon, which is

 

beautiful, but wind-y (with a long I!) and also currently under

 

construction at the summit. Check www.udot.gov to be sure it is open and

 

traversable. Also, be aware that much of this trip is over mountain

 

passes, which can be very treacherous at this time of year. A four wheel

 

drive or all wheel drive (or chains) are sometimes required! After the

 

summit of Logan Canyon, you will have a quick descent to Bear Lake, on

 

the border of Utah and Idaho. During the summer, Garden City offers

 

travelers exquisite homemade raspberry shakes, but I think most of the

 

shops/restaurants close for the winter months. The Idaho border is about

 

5 miles north of Garden City, and shortly after you will come to Paris,

 

Idaho, (tabernacle).

 

After Paris, you arrive in Montpilier, Idaho and the highway turns

 

north again. You have to pay attention becuse after a block or two the

 

route quickly heads east (right) again, up into the mountains. The next

 

area of interest is Star Valley, Wyoming. If you pass through at meal

 

time, try stopping at the Star Valley Cheese Factory and restaurant. It

 

is where the locals eat. Just up the road a piece is Afton, home of the

 

lesser-known antler arch (you won't miss it-it spans the road!) and,

 

honestly, not much else. Now you are into the home stretch! Just past

 

Afton you come to a bridge that crosses the Snake river and then the

 

highway will turn north (right) at Alpine junction and finally to

 

Jackson Hole. As long as the snow barriers are not down, just enjoy the

 

drive through the canyon. There are lots of pullouts for viewing the

 

river (in the summer there are lots of white-water rafters floating this

 

part of the Snake). Once you arrive in Jackson, there are LOTS of shops,

 

galleries, restaurants, resorts, etc. to check out. My personal

 

favorites are the National Wildlife Art Museum and the adjacent Elk

 

refuge just north of town about 3 miles. Also, if you enjoy photography

 

(I teach it) visit Oswald gallery to see original works by Ansel Adams,

 

Edward Weston, Jerry Uelsman, Yousef Karsh and others. Also see the

 

Grand Tetons which are stunning on a crisp, clear morning!

 

Well, that is about it. If you have any questions, please feel free

 

to contact me. If you are able to take the trip, I would love to know

 

what you thought of it! Also, if you are interested, I am (trying) to

 

get a website put together to display the photographs of US 89 that I

 

have taken. The project, when complete, will document each mileof the

 

entire length of the historical route of the highway, from the Canadian

 

border at Piegan, Montana, to the Mexican border at Nogales, Arizona.

 

 

 

Happy trails!

 

 

 

Brian Atkinson

 

BYU-Idaho, Department of Art

 

Rexburg, Idaho

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear AMERICAN ROAD Yahoo Group members,

 

 

 

No doubt some of you have already heard the sad news that Dee Dee Belt

 

passed away on Sunday. For those of you who don't know Dee Dee, she

 

was the current owner of the famous Blue Whale on Route 66 in Catoosa,

 

Oklahoma. The Blue Whale is a classic roadside attraction that

 

entertained young and old alike.

 

 

 

Dee Dee was the daughter of Hugh Davis - who built the Whale for his

 

beloved wife - Zelta Davis. Dee Dee had been slipping away for the

 

past month. We had the privilege of getting to know Dee Dee as a

 

result of Thomas writing Route 66: The Empires of Amusement. Dee Dee

 

was very much like Zelta - strong, true to her word, and loving. We

 

had the privilege of speaking with her about 2 weeks ago and had the

 

opportunity to tell her how much we loved her. Blaine, her brother,

 

called us on Sunday with the sad news of Dee Dee's passing.

 

 

 

Words cannot express our sadness. The sparkle in the eye of the Blue

 

Whale has dimmed with Dee Dee's passing. He is now a monument to her

 

spirit.

 

 

 

Tulsa World has the following:

 

http://www.tulsaworld.com/Deaths.asp DEATHS FOR 1/11/2006 Under

 

section STATE/AREA

 

 

 

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becky@mockturtlepress.com

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Sorry to hear of her passing. It always hurts when someone that is

 

so tied to 66 leaves us. This makes it all the more important to

 

visit and talk with the original 66ers while they are still with us.

 

 

 

What will happen to the Blue Whale now? RoadDog

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "beckyrepp" <becky@m...> wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> Dear AMERICAN ROAD Yahoo Group members,

 

>

 

> No doubt some of you have already heard the sad news that Dee Dee

 

Belt

 

> passed away on Sunday. For those of you who don't know Dee Dee, she

 

> was the current owner of the famous Blue Whale on Route 66 in

 

Catoosa,

 

> Oklahoma. The Blue Whale is a classic roadside attraction that

 

> entertained young and old alike.

 

>

 

> Dee Dee was the daughter of Hugh Davis - who built the Whale for

 

his

 

> beloved wife - Zelta Davis. Dee Dee had been slipping away for the

 

> past month. We had the privilege of getting to know Dee Dee as a

 

> result of Thomas writing Route 66: The Empires of Amusement. Dee

 

Dee

 

> was very much like Zelta - strong, true to her word, and loving. We

 

> had the privilege of speaking with her about 2 weeks ago and had

 

the

 

> opportunity to tell her how much we loved her. Blaine, her brother,

 

> called us on Sunday with the sad news of Dee Dee's passing.

 

>

 

> Words cannot express our sadness. The sparkle in the eye of the

 

Blue

 

> Whale has dimmed with Dee Dee's passing. He is now a monument to

 

her

 

> spirit.

 

>

 

> Tulsa World has the following:

 

> http://www.tulsaworld.com/Deaths.asp DEATHS FOR 1/11/2006

 

Under

 

> section STATE/AREA

 

>

 

> Becky Repp

 

> American Road GM

 

> becky@m...

 

>

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Another interesting highway that is lightly traveled and seldom

 

talked about is US14.

 

 

 

This road starts in Chicago and ends at the main entrance to

 

Yellowstone National Park.

 

 

 

Quite an interesting little highway with only one area that I know

 

of where it is seperated.

 

 

 

Has anyone travelled this highway?

 

 

 

Bill Kruser

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We've driven the National Road across IL, IN, and partially across

 

OH and enjoyed every mile.

 

 

 

The Blue Star Highway on the west side of MI that runs along Lake

 

Michigan is also an outstanding trip.

 

 

 

I highly recommend all of the above as a cure for cabin

 

fever....Bliss

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "okydokey89" <okydokey@a...>

 

wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> Hi All,

 

>

 

> I'm a new member here and was curious if anyone has suggestions

 

for

 

> weekend trips in Michigan, Ohio or Indiana. Is the National Road

 

> thru Ohio and Indiana a good drive? We are going nuts with cabin

 

> fever and anxious to get out and ramble around a bit.

 

>

 

> Thanks in advance,

 

>

 

> Jabba

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Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net>

There is a motel in Louisiana called the River's Edge (or it was there a few

 

years ago)...it is right next to the Bridge on the Mo side on a bluff

 

overlooking the river...the Motel is nothing special but the location is

 

awesome! The Town of Louisiana is really cool, and if you want to take an

 

awesome drive, the drive up SR 79 from Louisiana to Hannibal is amazing!

 

Tsingtao Kip

 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:08 AM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: U.S. 54

 

 

 

 

 

> My wife and I lived in Pittsfield when we were kids and the photos

 

> are of very familiar "icons." My uncle owned the Green Acres Motel

 

> and I used to cut grass there and do some landscaping for a whopping

 

> $.75 per hour when I was in grade school. (Don't remember anything

 

> about a movie photo.) The Cardinal Inn (we referred to it as The

 

> Bird) was a hangout for every kid who could get there. A constant

 

> parade of cool cars drove through the lot. Lots of burnt rubber out

 

> front on old 36/54. Spent lots of weekend afternoons at the Zoe

 

> and, later, lots of memorable evenings at the Clark Drive In. The

 

> bridge at Louisiana is still a narrow experience. Lots of

 

> memories....Bliss

 

>

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "rwarn17588" <rwarn17588@...>

 

> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Recently, I took a trip on U.S. 54 from western Illinois to eastern

 

> > Kansas.

 

> >

 

> > Here is a Web site that shows plenty of photos from the trip -- and

 

> > hopefully some travel and lodging ideas.

 

> >

 

> > http://rwarn17588.wordpress.com/us-54/

 

> >

 

> > Yes, it's my Route 66 site. But I don't think anyone will mind if I

 

> > include some other roadie material.

 

> >

 

> > Ron Warnick

 

> > Tulsa, OK

 

> > www.route66news.org

 

> >

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

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Guest rwarn17588

I encountered the River's Edge Motel during my trip on U.S. 54. It's

 

still open. It costs about $42 a night, according to an Internet

 

search I did. That's pretty good, considering its exceptional location.

 

 

 

I was about as happy as I could be with the Green Acres Motel in

 

Pittsfield, though. No regrets.

 

 

 

Ron Warnick

 

Tulsa, OK

 

www.route66news.org

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <rudkip@...> wrote:

 

>

 

> There is a motel in Louisiana called the River's Edge (or it was

 

there a few

 

> years ago)...it is right next to the Bridge on the Mo side on a bluff

 

> overlooking the river...the Motel is nothing special but the location is

 

> awesome! The Town of Louisiana is really cool, and if you want to

 

take an

 

> awesome drive, the drive up SR 79 from Louisiana to Hannibal is amazing!

 

> Tsingtao Kip

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Guest desert-moon@juno.com

Hi everyone!

 

 

 

I just joined this group, but haven't had time to post.

 

 

 

I live in Southern/Central CA, on the coast, city of Santa Barbara (not

 

where I want to retire, just here because of family).

 

 

 

I just saw this topic and had to respond.

 

 

 

I have heard many Mid-Western folks, call it "pop", while out here in the

 

West, we call it soda. Same as "dresser" or "chest of drawers". I have

 

heard it called chest of drawers by other folks. Sofa, couch? .....

 

 

 

Alda

 

 

 

> >

 

> > By the way, do you call them soft drinks, sodas, or pops. I have

 

>

 

> > heard that you can tell where someone is from by how they refer to

 

>

 

> > those carbonated drinks. Anyone out there have any opinions?

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Guest roaddog_rt66

We are celebrating the 50th anniversary of the US Interstate System

 

this year. One of the celebrations will be a convoy from San

 

Francisco to Washington, D.C., to take place this June 15-19th.

 

 

 

This will retrace, in reverse, the famous troop convoy taken by a

 

young Lt. Col. Dwight D. Eisenhower back in 1919. Today, it could be

 

done in a matter of days. Back then, it took 56 days of great

 

difficulties.

 

 

 

This ingrained upon his mind the importance of a major highway system

 

that would enable troops and supplies to be moved across the US in a

 

quicker fashion. This becamne even more apparent when US forces

 

entered Germany, and encountered the Autobahn.

 

 

 

Various celebrations are planned in the states the trip covered.

 

 

 

You can find out more information at:

 

 

 

http://interstate50th.org/reinactment.shtml

 

 

 

Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog

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Guest Jennifer

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Reese" <reesed@...> wrote:

 

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> Jennifer, Sounds like you would need to go to Germany...

 

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> Dave Reese

 

> Allentown PA

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I saw that...besides, I wouldn't be able to afford it, even if

 

they had them in the U.S.

 

 

 

I know I don't have Ron's parallel parking proficiency (and I won't

 

say that three times fast! LOL), but I do OK. Certainly not bad enough

 

to justify such an extravgance!

 

 

 

Jennifer

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Guest Alex Burr

I know this is not the venue for selling things - but I have the two

 

Northeast tourbooks, 1936 with black cover and 1938 with faded red

 

cover, that I'd like to see go to a group member(s). Both are in very

 

good condtion, missing only the loose map - the touring route maps are

 

still attached.

 

 

 

Email for price and details.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex Burr

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I am about to begin a restoration of my '74 MGBGT. I think it will be

 

cool to take the finished product on a year long vacation. Has anyone

 

done something like that? Does anyone know where I can get a list of

 

arboretuems/gardens, auto museums, plane museums and festivals?

 

 

 

This is going to be grand.

 

thanks

 

Les Mauldin

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Guest Denny Gibson

When I made plans to attend the Ohio Lincoln Highway League meeting on April

 

23, I was thinking of a nice spring drive wearing shorts and sunglasses.

 

What I'm getting is cold rain with jeans & long sleeves.

 

 

 

But that's OK. I'm still going to the meeting and I'm still driving the

 

Lincoln Highway from West Virginia to Indian and I'm still enjoying it.

 

First day's pictures and chatter at

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/ohlh0405

 

 

 

--Denny

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Someone get that girl a drinking hat!!!

 

 

 

nyuk! nyuk! nyuk! nyuk!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Ward"

 

<flyboy1946@h...> wrote:

 

> Jim,

 

>

 

> The pictures I sent you of Shellee at the Blue Swallow in July

 

2003 are now in the group's photo files.

 

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> Mike

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: Jim Ross<mailto:pathfinder66@e...>

 

> To: American

 

Road<mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 7:38 AM

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Spyware, etc.

 

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>

 

> Finally, Mike, by all means post that photo of Shellee at the

 

Blue Swallow. As a matter of fact, I think she should use it as her

 

"signature" photo. haha.

 

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> Thanks again, everybody.

 

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> Jim R.

 

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