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And all this time I thought I joined to save money on the Disney

 

collector DVDs. I got all but two, and one of them's the Mickey Mouse

 

black and white one.

 

 

 

Where'd all that hair come from?

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, roadmaven@a... wrote:

 

> Hi all...We found a really inexpensive way to rent cars. We decided

 

to keep some miles off our cars for our upcoming trip this weekend,

 

so we decided to rent. If you're a member, Sam's Club has a really

 

good deal for rentals under their "Member Benefits" section on their

 

website (www.samsclub.com). Through Sam's, we're renting a compact

 

from Thrifty from this Thursday night through Monday night and it's

 

costing just $88, taxes included. Just for kicks (hold the puns), I

 

went to Thrifty's website and typed in the exact same days and they

 

quoted me $175 for the same compact.

 

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> So if you're a Sam's Club member, take advantage of this benefit.

 

They also have discounts on hotels, (evil) airline flights, and

 

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

I didn't know that was what you are talking about...if you pass through the

 

Dells there is a sign pointing the way; I think they even instruct you to

 

tune in to a little infostation about it...Tsingtao Kip

 

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From: "Denny Gibson" <denny@dennygibson.com>

 

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 8:02 AM

 

Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Takin Off to Da Nort Country!

 

 

 

 

 

>

 

> My goof on the clowns. I've been in Wisconsin a total of three times:

 

> Madison, Eau Claire, & Baraboo. The Ringlings are from Baraboo and there

 

is

 

> a museum there ( http://www.circusworldmuseum.com/ ). No doubt I confused

 

> Eau Claire with Baraboo and "clown college" with "circus museum". That's

 

my

 

> story and I'm sticking to it. BTW, thank you Google.

 

>

 

> --Denny

 

>

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: Rudyard Welborn [mailto:r.Welborn@worldnet.ATT.net]

 

> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:59 AM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Takin Off to Da Nort Country!

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Very glad to be back in the land of -- if nothing else -- warmer climate

 

(it

 

> was minus 20 on Christmas Eve in Spooner!) Woos is still there; got a pic

 

at

 

> night with the neon a blazin; when I get set up will email a shot of

 

> it...don't know about a clown museum, but Eau Claire is the home of Walter

 

> Beer and where Henry Aaron started his pro ball career! Tsingtao, Kip

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: "Denny Gibson" <denny@dennygibson.com>

 

> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 7:56 AM

 

> Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Takin Off to Da Nort Country!

 

>

 

>

 

> >

 

> > Have a safe trip & a Merry Christmas. I've been in Eau Claire once but

 

> don't

 

> > recall WOOS (didn't see attachment, either) but do recall that a Clown

 

> > College was there.

 

> >

 

> > --Denny

 

> >

 

> > -----Original Message-----

 

> > From: Rudyard Welborn [mailto:r.Welborn@worldnet.ATT.net]

 

> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 8:32 AM

 

> > To: ; AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com; Lisa V

 

> > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Takin Off to Da Nort Country!

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Yo!

 

> >

 

> > Well, we are off to the great white north tomorrow, the land of US 53

 

and

 

> > 63, cheese, beer, cheese, beer, and the worlds greatest chinese

 

roadhouse

 

> > WOOS CHINESE PAGODA (on US 53 in Eau Claire, WI)! Now that I can do such

 

> > things, see a pic of the front of this excellent place in the

 

attachment.

 

> >

 

> > Before we go, just wanted to wish each and every one of you a Merry

 

> > Christmas and a New Year brim full of good times and safe travels!

 

> > Tsingtao-ding-a-ling! Kip Quinn and Natalie Kay

 

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

Well, I have entered the digital world and what better place to start than Woos

 

Chinese Pagoda in Eau Claire, WI with the neon a blazin! sorry if the pic is

 

fuzzy--forgive me; I am a novice! Tsingtao, Kip

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In a message dated 1/29/2004 8:49:38 AM Pacific Standard Time,

 

ConradW@sema.org writes:

 

 

 

>

 

> Helen: Thanks for seeing this and passing it along. I'm forwarding this to

 

> Steve McDonald, the head of SEMA's D.C. office for his review and

 

> consideration.

 

>

 

> Your story concerns emissions testing under Missouri House Bill No. 1181.

 

> Under separate cover, I'm sending to you a Missouri legislative alert that we

 

> sent out on January 15, 2004. The proposed legislation, Senate Bill No. 900,

 

> would maintain a rolling exemption of cars 26 years old and older from being

 

> tested for emissions. Senate Bill No. 900 appears to be the counterpart to

 

> House Bill No. 1181, but I'll need to check with Steve and confirm.

 

>

 

> I enjoy reading about the Goffs Schoolhouse! Hope you and other half are

 

> doing well. Thanks for thinking of me!

 

>

 

> Conrad

 

>

 

> >> -----Original Message-----

 

>> From: [mailto:Bakerhab@aol.com]

 

>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 11:37 AM

 

>> To: ConradW@sema.org

 

>> Subject: Missouri Emissions Testing HB1181

 

>>

 

>>

 

>> Conrad,

 

>>

 

>> I picked this up off of a Route 66 egroup site. Just thought I'd let you

 

>> know.

 

>>

 

>> Helen Baker

 

>> NAMRC, CORVA, Goffs Schoolhouse, CART66PF

 

>>

 

>> Helen A. Baker

 

>> Secretary

 

>> California Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

>> 5004 Enfield Avenue

 

>> Encino, California 91316

 

>> 818-705-3930

 

>> bakerhab@aol.com

 

>> www.cart66pf.org

 

>>

 

>> Subject: Missouri Emissions Testing

 

>>

 

>> Do you enjoy waiting in line for the Missouri testing jerks to red

 

>> line your engine? How about the $24 fee and valuable time robbed

 

>> from your day?

 

>>

 

>> Rep. Harold Selby, D-Cedar Hill, is sponsoring bill HB1181 to end

 

>> this testing. As he said, "It's time for the sham to end." If you

 

>> would like to have your name added to his petition, phone his toll

 

>> free number: 1-866-333-3897 and leave your name and mailing address

 

>> with your message. You can also email Rep. Selby:

 

>> harold.selby@h...

 

>>

 

>>

 

>> C'mon, fellow Missouri roadies and protest the state's plan to remove

 

>> your cherished old car or truck from their blue highways!....Bliss

 

>>

 

>>

 

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Subj: FW: SEMA Legislative Alert: Missouri Emissions Inspections Exemption

 

for Older Cars

 

Date: 1/29/2004 8:50:39 AM Pacific Standard Time

 

From: ConradW@sema.org

 

To: Bakerhab@aol.com

 

 

 

Helen,

 

Here's the Missouri legislative alert regarding Senate Bill No. 900 that we

 

sent out to Missouri SEMA Action Network members.

 

 

 

Conrad

 

 

 

(Helen's comment - To join the SEMA Action Network and get a free

 

subscription to SEMA's online newsletter The Driving Force, log on to

 

www.enjoythedrive.com and look under the column heading of Cool & Current for

 

SEMA Action Network

 

Aids the Vehicle Enthusiast.)

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Conrad Wong

 

Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:19 PM

 

Subject: SEMA Legislative Alert: Missouri Emissions Inspections

 

Exemption for Older Cars

 

 

 

URGENT LEGISLATIVE ALERT

 

 

 

Emissions Inspection Exemption for Older Cars: Missouri

 

 

 

A bill (S.B. 900) has been introduced in the Missouri State Senate

 

to exempt vehicles 26 years old and older from the state's mandatory emissions

 

inspection and maintenance program.

 

 

 

We Urge You to Contact Your Missouri State Legislators Immediately in Support

 

of this Bill

 

 

 

 

 

Existing law in Missouri only exempts vehicles manufactured prior to the 1971

 

model year from emissions inspection.

 

S.B. 900 provides for a rolling exemption that would exempt all pre-1979

 

vehicles upon enactment and would pick up an additional model year for each year

 

the law is in effect.

 

 

 

S.B. 900 acknowledges the relatively minimal environmental impact of older

 

vehicles, such as the 26-year old and older vehicles targeted for this

 

exemption.

 

 

 

Many states have recently enacted similar exemptions, the most recent being

 

in Virginia, Washington State and California. The reason for this trend is

 

clear; such vehicles constitute a small portion of the vehicle fleet and are

 

generally well-maintained and infrequently operated.

 

 

 

The idea behind exempting any class of vehicles is to reduce costs while not

 

losing appreciable emissions reductions. This strategy not only builds

 

public support for emissions-inspection programs, but also directs the program

 

to

 

where it will be most valuable in cleaning the air. A rolling exemption

 

certainly achieves these ends.

 

Please contact members of the Missouri State Legislature in support

 

of this bill. If you need assistance in determining who your state legislators

 

are, contact the Missouri Legislature's General Information line at

 

573/751-3824. This information can also be obtained by calling the SEMA

 

Washington,

 

D.C. office at 202/783-6007, ext. 38 or you can access this information via the

 

Internet at http://www.enjoythedrive.com/legislative/c..._legislator.asp..

 

Please fax a copy of your letters to us at 202/783-6024, or mail or e-mail to:

 

 

 

SEMA Washington Office

 

 

 

1317 F St., NW, Ste. 500

 

 

 

Washington, D.C. 20004

 

 

 

Attn: Steve McDonald

 

 

 

stevem@sema.org

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I don't have them in front of me but I think these are the cards Felicia

 

picked up for us...Tsingtao, Kip

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: "Shellee Graham" <SHELLEE66@EARTHLINK.NET>

 

To: "American Road Egroup" <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Cc: "Jeff Meyer" <rt66roadologist@comcast.net >; "Steve Rider"

 

<>; "Joe Sonderman (at home)" <STLRT66@aol.com>

 

Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 1:27 AM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Coral Court Motel LILLY THE CAT greeting cards

 

 

 

 

 

> Howdy folks,

 

>

 

> Yep, I'm still selling stuff on eBay. Just wanted you to know about the

 

new

 

> LILLY the giant cat at CORAL COURT MOTEL greeting cards for sale. There

 

are

 

> 8 different cards with 8 envelopes. They are hilarious.

 

>

 

> Check them out at:

 

>

 

>

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...;ssPageName=ADM

 

> E:B:LC:US:1

 

>

 

> If you need to see individual images, email me privately. Thanks for

 

> looking.

 

>

 

> Shellee Graham

 

>

 

> (coralcourt -

 

> user id on ebay)

 

> :-)

 

>

 

> P.S. If anyone has a "Jim's Restaurant, Vinita, OK" pc that they are

 

willing

 

> to part with, please let me know. Thankya.

 

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Guest brownwho63

Do you enjoy waiting in line for the Missouri testing jerks to red

 

line your engine? How about the $24 fee and valuable time robbed

 

from your day?

 

 

 

Rep. Harold Selby, D-Cedar Hill, is sponsoring bill HB1181 to end

 

this testing. As he said, "It's time for the sham to end." If you

 

would like to have your name added to his petition, phone his toll

 

free number: 1-866-333-3897 and leave your name and mailing address

 

with your message. You can also email Rep. Selby:

 

harold.selby@house.mo.gov

 

 

 

C'mon, fellow Missouri roadies and protest the state's plan to remove

 

your cherished old car or truck from their blue highways!....Bliss

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Guest Jim Ross

Adam,

 

 

 

I explored early 66 pathways in CA back in 1994, particularly between Needles

 

and Barstow. An article I wrote was published in the Fall '95 issue of Rt. 66

 

Magazine. I included what little I knew about the NOTR, but the focus was

 

primarily on 66. In 2000, I revisited some of the ghost roads I'd discovered

 

years earlier, only to find that some of them had by then been almost completely

 

erased by the desert.

 

 

 

Jerry McClanahan and Scott Piotrowski have both done detailed research on the CA

 

road as well, especially the areas around Cajon Pass and in the L.A. metro. In

 

the late 1990s, Jerry found the link from the old bridge at Topock through Park

 

Moabi to Five Mile Rd. Steve Rider has written in detail about the NOTR in its

 

entirety. I believe all of the names I've just mentioned are members of this

 

group. There are probably others I can't think of at the moment.

 

 

 

I would be interested to see your findings.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Jim R.

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Guest Jerry McClanahan

Adam,

 

 

 

If you want to dig thru some back issues, Jim Ross did a story in Rte 66 Mag

 

many years ago that covered much of the earliest 66 from Needles thru

 

Barstow. He traced out many sections of the early 66 roadbed (and, as you

 

say, NOT generally along the original Nat. Old Trails, although some

 

sections were).

 

 

 

Also, I did a 3 part article for The Federation News (National Historic Rte

 

66 federation) that covered the 1920s road thru Cajon Pass (where I hiked up

 

thru the pass to the summit, in between the WB and EB lanes of I-15).

 

 

 

Sorry to not have issue numbers ready at hand. Hope this helps.

 

 

 

Jerry McClanahan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Message: 7

 

Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:03:11 EST

 

From: adamghost@aol.com

 

Subject: National Old Trails highway

 

 

 

 

 

Hi gang...

 

 

 

I've been doing a lot of research finding and exploring the original path of

 

route 66 and the National Old Trails highway in California (and it's not,

 

for

 

the most part, where the "current" route 66 runs). I hope at some point to

 

put up all the information on a webpage or as part of a hiking/backgroading

 

guidebook, but I was curious to know if anyone else had gotten into this or

 

if

 

there were any websites or mailing lists that the folks here would recommend

 

for

 

research and/or exchanging information.

 

 

 

adam marsland

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Bliss,

 

I forwarded your message to the Director of Government and Public

 

Affairs at the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA). This

 

is a huge association for the Motor Vehicle Aftermarket. They like

 

to be aware of any automobile related legislation. SEMA is a friend

 

to old cars and blue roads and they were just inducted into the

 

Cruisin Hall of Fame during the Route 66 Rendezvous in San Bernardino

 

last September.

 

 

 

If you would like more information about SEMA or want a free

 

subscription to their online legislative updates log on to

 

www.enjoythedrive.com

 

 

 

Helen Baker

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "brownwho63" <wefly66@e...>

 

wrote:

 

> Do you enjoy waiting in line for the Missouri testing jerks to red

 

> line your engine? How about the $24 fee and valuable time robbed

 

> from your day?

 

>

 

> Rep. Harold Selby, D-Cedar Hill, is sponsoring bill HB1181 to end

 

> this testing. As he said, "It's time for the sham to end." If you

 

> would like to have your name added to his petition, phone his toll

 

> free number: 1-866-333-3897 and leave your name and mailing address

 

> with your message. You can also email Rep. Selby:

 

> harold.selby@h...

 

>

 

> C'mon, fellow Missouri roadies and protest the state's plan to

 

remove

 

> your cherished old car or truck from their blue highways!....Bliss

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Bliss,

 

I have already received a message back from Conrad Wong, the Director

 

of Government and Public Affairs for SEMA, regarding Missouri HB1181

 

as well as information regarding Missouri SB900 a companion Senate

 

bill. I will post those two messages separately.

 

 

 

SEMA is an awesome organization and more information about their

 

activities and services is available at www.enjoythedrive.com.

 

 

 

Helen Baker

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "bakerhab2003" <Bakerhab@a...>

 

wrote:

 

> Bliss,

 

> I forwarded your message to the Director of Government and Public

 

> Affairs at the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA). This

 

> is a huge association for the Motor Vehicle Aftermarket. They like

 

> to be aware of any automobile related legislation. SEMA is a

 

friend

 

> to old cars and blue roads and they were just inducted into the

 

> Cruisin Hall of Fame during the Route 66 Rendezvous in San

 

Bernardino

 

> last September.

 

>

 

> If you would like more information about SEMA or want a free

 

> subscription to their online legislative updates log on to

 

> www.enjoythedrive.com

 

>

 

> Helen Baker

 

>

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "brownwho63" <wefly66@e...>

 

> wrote:

 

> > Do you enjoy waiting in line for the Missouri testing jerks to

 

red

 

> > line your engine? How about the $24 fee and valuable time robbed

 

> > from your day?

 

> >

 

> > Rep. Harold Selby, D-Cedar Hill, is sponsoring bill HB1181 to end

 

> > this testing. As he said, "It's time for the sham to end." If

 

you

 

> > would like to have your name added to his petition, phone his

 

toll

 

> > free number: 1-866-333-3897 and leave your name and mailing

 

address

 

> > with your message. You can also email Rep. Selby:

 

> > harold.selby@h...

 

> >

 

> > C'mon, fellow Missouri roadies and protest the state's plan to

 

> remove

 

> > your cherished old car or truck from their blue highways!....Bliss

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We received the following update from Skip's brother. I am sure Skip and Karla

 

were very disapointed. Please continue to remember them in your prayers and

 

thoughts.

 

 

 

Tommy and Glenda Pike

 

 

 

"Hello all, I heard from Skip this afternoon, and they were headed back to

 

Springfield. He has had a chest cold, and the doctors want to wait until this

 

clears before operating, so he is now scheduled to return to Minnesota next week

 

for surgery on Thursday, Jan. 12. I'll send out any other news as needed.

 

Thanks, Steve"

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Guest Alex Burr

The 1937 Memphis street map I bought on ebay arrived today - we sort

 

of arrived together as I arrived home from Memphis shortly before the

 

mail arrived.

 

This map, taken from a Cities and Towns of the World atlas shows

 

that the original alighnment of 51 coming into Memphis was on 2nd

 

street. It is rather crowded - so difficult to tell where it exits on

 

the south.

 

Curiously this is the only highway numbered, tho it is a rather

 

crowded map and shows only the western part of the city, at that time,

 

from Overton Park to the river. Also the bridge shown, is the Little

 

Rock and St. Louis RR - but it's in the same place where the old, now

 

I-55, bridge is.

 

Shall study it further.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

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Hey all,

 

 

 

I have to go to OKC for work and my boss is letting me drive. I have

 

three driving days there and/or back, and will be taking the

 

non-interstate route 66 at least one way between Joliet and OKC.

 

 

 

Any must-see or stop recommendations?

 

 

 

I like:

 

 

 

Tourist traps with good souvenir opportunities

 

Barbeque & Thai

 

Local history museums

 

Roadside architecture and signs

 

Antique shops and used book stores

 

 

 

Motel recommendations for Springfield, MO?

 

Where is the folk art totem poles assemblage?.....Afton?

 

 

 

Leaving Saturday morning. Thanks for any tips!!

 

 

 

ypsi-slim

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Well, you've got my attention (and envy) and I look forward to watching your

 

trip progress. It is a certainty that members of this group know of plenty

 

of cool towns and compelling sites but that doesn't make answering your

 

question easy. The area is just too large for me to focus on and that might

 

be true for others, too. Ideas may come easier after you've taken the first

 

few steps.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: scottfitzlacy [mailto:slacy@grasslands.com]

 

Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 7:52 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Secret treasures of the road?

 

 

 

Hi,

 

 

 

My wife and I are taking a year-long road trip starting this summer.

 

The idea behind our trip will be to go FAR off the main roads and

 

find the off-the-radar stuff.

 

 

 

Just curious if anyone on this forum has recommendations for cool,

 

obscure towns or unknown-but-compelling sites to visit. I still

 

remember stumbling upon Carhenge in West Nebraska and how thrilling

 

it was to find something so weird, so unexpected, in the middle of

 

nowhere. That's the kind of thing we're after.

 

 

 

We'll go anywhere, see anything. No idea is a bad one....

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Scott Lacy

 

www.homesweetroad.com

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Alex, congrats on obtaining the map, how about some details,

 

is it an oil company map, what does it look like, and if it's not

 

too nosey how much did it set you back, around here in WA

 

older maps typically run anywhere from $5 to $25 and on up.

 

 

 

I remember seeing a big US map from the twenties and on the

 

back were a few dozen tips on how to make roadside repairs,

 

the one that makes me laugh was what to do when a

 

connecting rod breaks--drain the oil, remove the

 

oilpan, remove the cap over the crankshaft/rod

 

bearing, remove the rod, stuff a rag in the cylinder

 

bore, replace the oilpan, replace the oil and limp

 

to a garage or home minus one cyclinder. The directions

 

are good, what makes me laugh is how they were serious

 

about this as it was a very real possibility. The idea of a

 

motorist actually making such a repair is mind-boggling

 

nowdays but this sort of thing may still go on in less

 

developed areas of the globe.

 

 

 

That map was going for $25 at an antique show in a mall

 

fifteen years ago, it was too much at the time but now

 

of course I wish I had bit the bullet and bought it.

 

 

 

I do however have a United States map from1923 that shows

 

31 'important automobile trails and national highways.'

 

It was published by the National Geographic Society.

 

 

 

thanks for sharing, I'll write more about my maps another time.

 

 

 

Schwinnly, Dave

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Wow - a one year road trip. You might consider driving some of

 

the old named highways like the Lincoln Hwy, Dixie Hwy, National

 

Hwy, Yellowstone Trail, Theodore Roosevelt Internation Hwy,

 

National Old Trails Hwy, Jefferson Hwy, etc. Of course some

 

research would be necessary to figure out where the old road

 

goes.

 

 

 

Or you could drive some of the original routes of the US numbered

 

highways - US 2, 6, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25, 27, 25,

 

30, 31, 33, 36, 40, 41, 45, 50, 54, 60, 61, 62, 64, 66, 70, 77, 80,

 

90, 99, 101, 250, 301.

 

 

 

For instance - you could drive around the perimeter of the US on

 

US 1 - US 90 - US 80 - US 101 - US 2.

 

 

 

Don't forget the Alaskan Highway.

 

 

 

ypsi-slim

 

 

 

 

 

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writes:

 

 

 

 

 

Hi,

 

 

 

My wife and I are taking a year-long road trip starting this summer.

 

The idea behind our trip will be to go FAR off the main roads and

 

find the off-the-radar stuff.

 

 

 

Just curious if anyone on this forum has recommendations for cool,

 

obscure towns or unknown-but-compelling sites to visit. I still

 

remember stumbling upon Carhenge in West Nebraska and how thrilling

 

it was to find something so weird, so unexpected, in the middle of

 

nowhere. That's the kind of thing we're after.

 

 

 

We'll go anywhere, see anything. No idea is a bad one....

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Scott Lacy

 

www.homesweetroad.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Denny,

 

 

 

Yes, it's a big country. And an interesting one too. I'm sure we'll run

 

into all manner of cool things without even trying. That said, we're

 

hoping to compile a list of go-to places. Never hurts to have a few

 

options while traveling.

 

 

 

I see you joined our "notify" list. You're our first one! Welcome

 

aboard!

 

 

 

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Scott

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Exploring 'Hidden America' ~

 

www.HomeSweetRoad.com

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Denny Gibson [mailto:denny@dennygibson.com]

 

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 7:56 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Secret treasures of the road?

 

 

 

 

 

Well, you've got my attention (and envy) and I look forward to watching

 

your

 

trip progress. It is a certainty that members of this group know of

 

plenty

 

of cool towns and compelling sites but that doesn't make answering your

 

question easy. The area is just too large for me to focus on and that

 

might

 

be true for others, too. Ideas may come easier after you've taken the

 

first

 

few steps.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

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From: scottfitzlacy [mailto:slacy@grasslands.com]

 

Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 7:52 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Secret treasures of the road?

 

 

 

Hi,

 

 

 

My wife and I are taking a year-long road trip starting this summer.

 

The idea behind our trip will be to go FAR off the main roads and

 

find the off-the-radar stuff.

 

 

 

Just curious if anyone on this forum has recommendations for cool,

 

obscure towns or unknown-but-compelling sites to visit. I still

 

remember stumbling upon Carhenge in West Nebraska and how thrilling

 

it was to find something so weird, so unexpected, in the middle of

 

nowhere. That's the kind of thing we're after.

 

 

 

We'll go anywhere, see anything. No idea is a bad one....

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Scott Lacy

 

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "ypsislim" <Ypsi-slim@j...>

 

wrote:

 

 

 

> Tourist traps with good souvenir opportunities

 

> Barbeque & Thai

 

> Local history museums

 

> Roadside architecture and signs

 

> Antique shops and used book stores

 

>

 

> Motel recommendations for Springfield, MO?

 

> Where is the folk art totem poles assemblage?.....Afton?

 

>

 

> Leaving Saturday morning. Thanks for any tips!!

 

>

 

> ypsi-slim

 

 

 

Ypsi,

 

For the Springfield motel, I can't stress enough: The Rest Haven

 

Court!! It'll run in the mid-upper $20's for a single. It's on

 

Kearney just east of Glenstone. And a fine sign to boot!:

 

http://roadtripmemories.com/images/roadmaven/resthaven.JPG

 

 

 

For BBQ, there is a good joint in Joplin on Rangeline: Jim Bob's,

 

across from the IHOP. The Totem Pole Park is about 4 miles off 66 in

 

Foyil, OK...I think it's on (Someone help me here) 28-A. As for

 

architecture & signs, I'd say Springfield, MO has some good motel

 

signs left...good for neon cruise. And there's plenty of architecture

 

along the whole route!

 

 

 

Pat B.

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Cool. I hope that means my copy will go out while the pixels are fresh &

 

easy to read.

 

 

 

I think Russell's idea of using named highways and/or US routes to anchor

 

trip segments is a good one. For a given highway or route (or state or

 

region or county) you can probably turn up plenty of web sites, etc.

 

http://www.agilitynut.com/roadside.html is one I've found with goodies from

 

all over the country. http://www.roundamerica.com and

 

http://www.all50corvette.com are travelblogs of nationwide drives. If you

 

haven't already read it, William Least Heat Moon's "Blue Highways" should

 

give you an idea or two and is a good read besides.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Scott Lacy [mailto:slacy@grasslands.com]

 

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 9:00 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Secret treasures of the road?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Denny,

 

 

 

Yes, it's a big country. And an interesting one too. I'm sure we'll run

 

into all manner of cool things without even trying. That said, we're

 

hoping to compile a list of go-to places. Never hurts to have a few

 

options while traveling.

 

 

 

I see you joined our "notify" list. You're our first one! Welcome

 

aboard!

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Scott

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Exploring 'Hidden America' ~

 

www.HomeSweetRoad.com

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Denny Gibson [mailto:denny@dennygibson.com]

 

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 7:56 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Secret treasures of the road?

 

 

 

 

 

Well, you've got my attention (and envy) and I look forward to watching

 

your

 

trip progress. It is a certainty that members of this group know of

 

plenty

 

of cool towns and compelling sites but that doesn't make answering your

 

question easy. The area is just too large for me to focus on and that

 

might

 

be true for others, too. Ideas may come easier after you've taken the

 

first

 

few steps.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: scottfitzlacy [mailto:slacy@grasslands.com]

 

Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 7:52 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Secret treasures of the road?

 

 

 

Hi,

 

 

 

My wife and I are taking a year-long road trip starting this summer.

 

The idea behind our trip will be to go FAR off the main roads and

 

find the off-the-radar stuff.

 

 

 

Just curious if anyone on this forum has recommendations for cool,

 

obscure towns or unknown-but-compelling sites to visit. I still

 

remember stumbling upon Carhenge in West Nebraska and how thrilling

 

it was to find something so weird, so unexpected, in the middle of

 

nowhere. That's the kind of thing we're after.

 

 

 

We'll go anywhere, see anything. No idea is a bad one....

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Scott Lacy

 

www.homesweetroad.com

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In a message dated 1/30/04 8:21:39 AM, drivewdave@aol.com writes:

 

 

 

<< what to do when a

 

connecting rod breaks >>

 

 

 

Dave, thanks for the back of the map con rod fix tip story...

 

 

 

It reminds me of what an old high school buddy

 

used to do, his vehicle of choice was the classic VW

 

microbus, notoriously prone to overheating.

 

 

 

After several experiences with thrown rods far from home,

 

whenever he went on longer road trips like down to CA he would

 

take along the spare short block as insurance and it did come to

 

save the day just as intended, he learned the hard way. It got

 

to where he could do engine swaps in a half hour just like the

 

professional mechanics do.

 

 

 

In a similar do-it-yourself spirit he solved the music problem

 

this way. The VW had the older 6 volt electrical system, the

 

new 8-track tape decks were 12 volt so he just carried the

 

extra battery and ran it off that, it was good for a couple

 

weeks before recharging and he could even take it in the

 

house if he wanted to.

 

 

 

Get your motor running, head out on the highway,

 

born to be wild indeed...

 

 

 

One time in my old Toyota pickup the hydraulic slave cylinder that

 

actuates the clutch failed, the seal blew out. It was a good thing

 

I had learned how to shift without using the clutch via the classic

 

'double clutch' technique on my grandpa's old Volvo 544. When it

 

failed I was on I-5 in the afternoon rush and traffic came to

 

a halt, I had to pull off and stop the engine, when traffic

 

started to move I cranked it over while in 1st gear and

 

shuddered into motion.

 

 

 

When I got off the freeway I got a jar of brake fluid

 

but it did not last long, it was good for maybe a few

 

dozen clutch actuations and then it was gone.

 

 

 

Schucks auto supply had the $25 part and I had my

 

metric bicycle wrenches with me.

 

I was under the car in the parking lot for a half

 

hour just as twilight was approaching, I just

 

finished before the light gave out.

 

 

 

You can bet your green pine tree air freshener that

 

I was feeling satisfied on the drive home via 'old 99,'

 

no tow job, no costly labor charges, no waiting,

 

no big deal, it could have been lots worse.

 

 

 

So you never know when the arcane skill will come in handy,

 

I had learned to shift without the clutch just to see if I could.

 

 

 

Schwinnly, Dave

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Hi Matt,

 

 

 

I'm glad Yahoo allows us to read the groups at the websites rather

 

than having email sent individually or by digest to our email

 

providers... Also, most of my yahoogroups have very little

 

activity--just a monthly announcement of meetings or a sort of monthly

 

newsletter--so they are a little easier to handle.

 

 

 

Only a few have lively ongoing conversations or flamewars <grin>...

 

some are downright boring...

 

 

 

But--as a writer/editor and info junkie, it's how I get my daily

 

*fix*... <grin>

 

 

 

Best regards (I deleted about 10 groups tonight when I questioned the

 

need to have them)

 

 

 

Dave

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I just found this ad on the Bagdad Cafe website. Route 66 business for sale

 

in California

 

 

 

Helen Baker.

 

> FOR SALE

 

>

 

> The Historic Bagdad Cafe is for sale.

 

> On Route 66 in Newberry Springs, California

 

>

 

> Site of the celebrated film for sale. Includes 6 acres of prime desert

 

> property. 150 miles east of Hollywood. Build your studio or artists colony

 

> here.

 

>

 

> $350,000

 

>

 

> Contact: Al Shafran

 

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Route 66 NEWS Flash--

 

 

 

BIG NEWS: they are repairing the neon on SPENCER's GRILL. It is TOO COOL to

 

see a man working on the neon AND the clock! Love it. I passed Spencer's

 

Grill on Tuesday and was very excited to see some of the neon is already

 

working!

 

 

 

From Shell Shellee Shell

 

Reporting from bypass 66 in Kirkwood, Missouri

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