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?A few less margaritas over the course of a trip....? Perhaps that?s what

 

travelers are doing, and why restaurants are struggling.

 

 

 

Brian

 

www.brianbutko.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: "Mike Ward" <flyboy@roadmaps.org>

 

Reply-To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 08:15:06 -0700

 

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Subject: Spam:[AMERICAN_ROAD] Was La Cita in Tucumcari to close - now gas

 

prices

 

 

 

I know that gas prices are a substantial portion of any driving trip but it

 

doesn't have to be a "trip-stopper". If you take a vehicle that gets 20 MPG

 

(and most get better than that) on a 3000 mile trip then you'll use 150

 

gallons of gas. At $1.50 a gallon that's $225; at $2.00 a gallon that's

 

$300. When you consider what we all usually end up spending on a 3000 mile

 

trip an additional $75 isn't all that much. A few less margaritas over the

 

course of a trip would make the difference.

 

 

 

Mike

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Guest Charlie and Jan

I am Jan from Iowa. I was on the group before. I just got a new address and got

 

online again.

 

How is everyone? Where is everyone traveling to? Some are probably getting

 

ready to go south for the winter months. It is chilly here this morning. 57

 

degrees but sunny. We have those awful beetle bugs again. The farmers are busy

 

with field work. Have a good day. Jan from Iowa

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Guest Alex Burr

Hey Mike,

 

 

 

Go soak your head in your catsup bottle - Bo Sox

 

deserve to win!!! LOL ROF LLAM After years of

 

niggardly (is it politically correct to use that

 

word??) financing toward good ball players a change of

 

management, and as I recall ownership, resulted in

 

people in charge that aren't afraid go spend some

 

money on players that can get the job done. And they

 

did it. Let us have something to be proud of, even

 

those of us who aren't really baseball (or football)

 

fans (let's hear it for stock car racing - YEA LOL),

 

if only for a fleeting moment. Sox just happened to

 

be more motivated this year - yeah, 8 wins in a row

 

gets you the brass ring.

 

 

 

PS - To anybody who thinks this post isn't road

 

realted, Boston IS on U S route #1. Fitting seeing as

 

how the Patriots are #1 and now the Sox are #1. LOL

 

 

 

Y'all have a great day.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- Mike Gassmann <mike@catsupbottle.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> Looking forward to seeing your film, Shellee!

 

>

 

> Very very disappointed about the World Series...

 

> where's Billy Buckner

 

> when we need him???

 

>

 

> Seein' red,

 

> Catsup Bottle Mike

 

>

 

> * * *

 

> Mike Gassmann, Big Tomato

 

> World's Largest Catsup Bottle Central Command

 

> Collinsville, Illinois 62234

 

> www.catsupbottle.com

 

>

 

>

 

> On Oct 28, 2004, at 9:57 AM, Shellee Graham wrote:

 

>

 

> >

 

> > Hey folks,

 

> >

 

> > Just FYI --

 

> >

 

> > Our 70 minute documentary

 

> > "Built for Speed: The Coral Court Motel,"

 

> > will be shown on

 

> >

 

> > ======================================

 

> > WHEN:

 

> > Sunday, November 14th

 

> > At 4 pm

 

> >

 

> > WHERE:

 

> > Historic Tivoli Theatre

 

> > University City (St. Louis) Missouri

 

> >

 

> > WHY:

 

> > Part of the

 

> > 13th Annual St. Louis

 

> > International Film Festival

 

> >

 

> > For a synopses of the 2004 SLIFF films

 

> > Go to:

 

> >

 

> http://cinemastlouis.org/main/festival/04films.html

 

> >

 

> > ======================================

 

> >

 

> > (This is the final FESTIVAL version of the film.

 

> So if you've seen the

 

> > version that was made for TV, this one is

 

> different.)

 

> >

 

> > Thank you and have a swell weekend.

 

> >

 

> > Shellee Graham

 

> > StL mo

 

> >

 

> > *NOT happy about

 

> > the World Series

 

> > outcome, but at

 

> > least we got there*

 

> >

 

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Guest Mike Gassmann

Hiya Alex!

 

 

 

And yes, the Cards will go down in history as the team that allowed the

 

curse to be broken! The Sox really did kick our butts... they deserved

 

the win for sure! Congrats!

 

 

 

And looking at the football schedule..., it looks like the Patriots

 

will soon be coming to town to beat up on our Rams, too... ugh!!!

 

 

 

Catsup Bottle Mike

 

 

 

 

 

On Oct 28, 2004, at 11:42 AM, Alex Burr wrote:

 

 

 

> Hey Mike,

 

>

 

> Go soak your head in your catsup bottle - Bo Sox

 

> deserve to win!!! LOL ROF LLAM After years of

 

> niggardly (is it politically correct to use that

 

> word??) financing toward good ball players a change of

 

> management, and as I recall ownership, resulted in

 

> people in charge that aren't afraid go spend some

 

> money on players that can get the job done. And they

 

> did it. Let us have something to be proud of, even

 

> those of us who aren't really baseball (or football)

 

> fans (let's hear it for stock car racing - YEA LOL),

 

> if only for a fleeting moment. Sox just happened to

 

> be more motivated this year - yeah, 8 wins in a row

 

> gets you the brass ring.

 

>

 

> PS - To anybody who thinks this post isn't road

 

> realted, Boston IS on U S route #1. Fitting seeing as

 

> how the Patriots are #1 and now the Sox are #1. LOL

 

>

 

> Y'all have a great day.

 

>

 

> Hudsonly,

 

> Alex B

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Guest Jennifer

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Bob Worley <bwcobra15@y...>

 

wrote:

 

> Did y'all not read the article? Its says they are NOT closing

 

because of

 

> lack of customers:

 

> > "We are not closing due to lack of customers," said Manning. "We

 

> > just have some business problems that we are not able to overcome

 

at

 

> > this time." La Cita's owners do not own the restaurant building.

 

> > Steve Whittington, of Clovis, is the building's owner. He could

 

not

 

> > be reached for comment.

 

> It would be my supposition that the lease is up for renewal and

 

building

 

> owner jacked up the rent to the point that they cannot remain

 

profitable,

 

> even with a full house.

 

>

 

> Bob Worley

 

> www.worley-world.com

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

Yep, I read it too...that's why I mentioned in my previous post that

 

if their customer base is OK, who knows what the "business problems"

 

are? Perhaps someone else might be able successfully run La Cita.

 

 

 

If the building owner is jacking up the rent forcing them out of

 

business, then they shot themselves in the foot, because now they

 

don't have a tenant to pay the rent!

 

 

 

Jennifer

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Guest Jennifer

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Brian Butko <babutko@h...>

 

wrote:

 

> ?A few less margaritas over the course of a trip....? Perhaps

 

that?s what

 

> travelers are doing, and why restaurants are struggling.

 

>

 

> Brian

 

> www.brianbutko.com

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

It all comes full circle, doesn't it??

 

 

 

Jennifer

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Guest timsteil

Hi diddlyho neighbors:

 

 

 

saw this posted on metafilter this morn, thought it might be of

 

interest

 

 

 

if the links don't work....the urls are

 

 

 

www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~/jlin

 

and

 

www.upstatenyroads.com

 

 

 

 

 

enjoy

 

Tim

 

 

 

 

 

Highway Route Markers collects highway signs from around the world.

 

The Upstate New York Roads Site lists (and reproduces) every exit

 

sign for many of the state's freeways. Let me reiterate: Every. Exit.

 

Sign. The net has something for everyone, even those of us with an

 

unhealthy obsession with road signs.

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Guest Russell S. Rein

If margaritas were $2.00 a gallon hopefully people wouldn't be driving

 

too much.

 

 

 

 

 

From the Citizen Tribune, Morristown?, TN - 10/28/04

 

 

 

Grant to fund a study of 25E

 

Ray Snader, Tribune Correspondent

 

U.S. Congressman Bill Jenkins (R-TN) announced

 

Wednesday initial funding for improvements to

 

U.S. Highway 25E has been approved.

 

Jenkins said the U.S. Department of Transportation has approved

 

the use of $120,000 for the development of a corridor management

 

plan for the U.S. 25E corridor stretching from the Kentucky state

 

line at Cumberland Gap to the intersection of U.S.25/70 in Newport.

 

 

 

The U.S. 25E Byway Committee, a group seeking to have 25E

 

become a National Scenic Byway, will develop a plan to identify the

 

intrinsic qualities of the corridor and "how they can be developed,

 

promoted and protected for the enjoyment of the traveling public,

 

and to increase tourism related travel in the region," Jenkins said.

 

 

 

According to the congressman, corridor management plans are the

 

central tool used by byway leaders to organize activities,

 

investments and planning goals for the communities and partners

 

supporting the byway.

 

 

 

Highway 25E is part of the Dixie Highway, the first federal road to

 

make a north-south connection in the United States. A portion of

 

the highway also follows the historic Daniel Boone Wilderness

 

Trail through Cumberland Gap.

 

 

 

ypsi-slim

 

 

 

 

 

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:32:28 -0400 "Denny Gibson" <denny@dennygibson.com>

 

writes:

 

Of course, if you could get margaritas for $2.00 a gallon, it would be a

 

different story.

 

 

 

But that is a good point: Compared to lodging, food, T-shirts, &

 

"refreshments". fuel may be one of the smaller costs of an outing.

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

This Cardinal fan is certainly tipping his hat to the Red Sox for their

 

victory in the world series...they played like a team that deserved to win

 

the series, especially in the last 3 games when Schilling, Martinez and Lowe

 

pitched gems...the Cardinals built a great team, and had for us in St. Louis

 

a magical season, and I toast them for that; alas, while the Red Sox played

 

like contendas, the Cardinals went into a slump that they could not crawl

 

out of...being the son of a Cardinal Fan that held the Cardinals in his

 

heart for 80 years, and transferred that love to his son, it was hard to

 

watch and for this Cardinals fan, saying the result was "disappointing" is

 

putting it mildly...so I toast the Red Sox, but I can't say that I don't

 

choke my Stag down just a little, thinking about what might have

 

been...congrats, Red Sox fan; maybe we'll see ya next October...Tsingtao,

 

Kip

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: "Mike Gassmann" <mike@catsupbottle.com>

 

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:53 AM

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] OT - Boston vs St. Louis

 

 

 

 

 

>

 

> Hiya Alex!

 

>

 

> And yes, the Cards will go down in history as the team that allowed the

 

> curse to be broken! The Sox really did kick our butts... they deserved

 

> the win for sure! Congrats!

 

>

 

> And looking at the football schedule..., it looks like the Patriots

 

> will soon be coming to town to beat up on our Rams, too... ugh!!!

 

>

 

> Catsup Bottle Mike

 

>

 

>

 

> On Oct 28, 2004, at 11:42 AM, Alex Burr wrote:

 

>

 

> > Hey Mike,

 

> >

 

> > Go soak your head in your catsup bottle - Bo Sox

 

> > deserve to win!!! LOL ROF LLAM After years of

 

> > niggardly (is it politically correct to use that

 

> > word??) financing toward good ball players a change of

 

> > management, and as I recall ownership, resulted in

 

> > people in charge that aren't afraid go spend some

 

> > money on players that can get the job done. And they

 

> > did it. Let us have something to be proud of, even

 

> > those of us who aren't really baseball (or football)

 

> > fans (let's hear it for stock car racing - YEA LOL),

 

> > if only for a fleeting moment. Sox just happened to

 

> > be more motivated this year - yeah, 8 wins in a row

 

> > gets you the brass ring.

 

> >

 

> > PS - To anybody who thinks this post isn't road

 

> > realted, Boston IS on U S route #1. Fitting seeing as

 

> > how the Patriots are #1 and now the Sox are #1. LOL

 

> >

 

> > Y'all have a great day.

 

> >

 

> > Hudsonly,

 

> > Alex B

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

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Guest Pat B.

Hi all....hope you're all doing some dandy fall foliage touring. We

 

had a neat weekend, which started off Saturday night with a trip to

 

Sharpsville, IN to the "Town of Summer Place"

 

(http://asummerplace.org) where Jennifer & I tied the proverbial knot

 

in 2002 (http://roadtripmemories.com/trips/wedding.htm) . A makeshift

 

drive-in movie theater was set up and a viewing of "Back to the

 

Future" was shown for a crowd of 25 or so vehicles and their

 

occupants. The $13 admission also included a cheeseburger, fries,

 

cherry Coke, and banana split (The same eats we had for our wedding

 

reception!), from "Angel's Diner" the amazing chrome diner on site.

 

All proceeds go to an adoption foundation. It was a bit chilly (47

 

when we left), but the setting was really neat. If you ever get a

 

chance to visit Summer Place, by all means take advantage of the

 

opportunity!

 

 

 

Today we cruised out to western Indiana to the Parke County Covered

 

Bridge Festival (http://www.coveredbridges.com/). This 10 day event

 

draws upwards of 2 million visitors from all over the country. The

 

BBQ sammich & persimmon pudding went down quite well. :-)

 

 

 

Hope you all have a safe fall season & be sure to post your links and

 

photos of your adventures on our site:

 

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/

 

 

 

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Moderator

 

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Guest Denny Gibson

Aside from the knocks you and others have mentioned, there's the question of

 

legality and the possibility of encouraging some disreputable spammer. A

 

middle ground might be

 

http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/

 

I have experience with them through my employer and believe they will

 

deliver what they promise and that they conform to the letter of the law.

 

 

 

You've also triggered questions like what MS-Office applications you're

 

seeking and why XP Pro vs. Home?

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

P.S. Sent this yesterday but found out I was in the dreaded Yahoo bounce

 

zone.

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 1:26 PM

 

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Cc: 'GH Randall'; 'Mike Ward'

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] question

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have looked at ordering Microsoft Windows XP Pro ad Office XP Pro. The

 

costs are over $1,000.00 from the established sources. Lately I have been

 

getting e-mail announcements about buying these for under $100.00. My

 

problem is this; they come from an unknown source such as an Eastern

 

European country or you have to download once again from an unknown source.

 

Both methods make me feel a little worried.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My question is have any of you ordered product this way and if so what were

 

your results? I would like to save paying the big money but also do not want

 

to waste the little money. I know that there are some of you out there that

 

have forgotten more about computers, internet and software then I will ever

 

know so I am turning to you. Please help I am open to your suggestions and

 

advice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Alex Burr

"The Ballad of Thunder Road had two release dates -

 

originally released on April 23, 1958 (the movie also

 

released in 1958) and re-released on May 2, 1967. The

 

Thunder Road movie is available on DVD thru Amazon.com

 

(of course I have a copy!!! LOL)

 

 

 

Your routing is probably pretty close - whoever

 

wrote the song must have been pretty familiar with the

 

Harlan County/Knoxville area for sure. However, there

 

are (or were) a lot of roads down there that were used

 

that didn't have numbers on them. Gravel for the most

 

part, and really not conducive to driving 80 or 90

 

unless you wanted to kill yourself in a hurry. Many

 

times these roads were used as "escape" routes. A

 

tripper with a fed on his back bumper might jog off

 

onto one of those old gravel roads - the amount of

 

dust thrown up by his car would cause the Fed to back

 

off since he couldn't see where he was going -

 

especially at night. The road over Cumberland Gap

 

wasn't all that bad back then. No worse, I'd say

 

(from memory) than a lot of other roads in the area.

 

I think they closed it and built a tunnel more for

 

"convienence" of travelers, IMHO.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- egyptianzipper@aol.com wrote:

 

 

 

> In a message dated 11/13/05 5:15:11 PM Eastern

 

> Standard Time,

 

> roustabout@starband.net writes:

 

> Our main destination was Tazewell, TN, so we headed

 

> out of

 

> Knoxiousville on SR 33, screaming through

 

> Maynardville as we

 

> followed the so called "Thunder Road":)

 

>

 

====================================================================

 

> That song was on the radio in the late winter and

 

> spring of 1962. Using roads

 

> that existed at the time, I figured the moonshiner

 

> took 119 from Harlan

 

> almost to Pineville, then 25E over Cumberland Gap

 

> (that must have been a thrill) to

 

> Tennessee 33, into Knoxville, then west on 11/70

 

> (Kingston Pike) to Bearden,

 

> where he left the road at 90mph and died. BTW, is

 

> Bearden really pronounced

 

> BEER-den?

 

>

 

====================================================================

 

> "RSS 13> shows the long decomissioned northern

 

> stretch of US

 

> 227. It once continued south through Georgetown to

 

> Paris. The

 

> stretch from Paris south to Winchester and Richmond

 

> persisted into

 

> the 70's, but it's totally gone now."

 

>

 

> I've no idea why I remember it, but in the summer of

 

> 1961, my family took a

 

> long trip from South Carolina to Michigan. We left

 

> my aunt's house in Harlan on

 

> US 119, which we took to 25E and headed north. My

 

> dad liked to cut corners,

 

> so we took KY 229 to London, where we must have

 

> picked up mainline 25. At

 

> Richmond, we took the above mentioned portion of US

 

> 227 to Paris, then US 68 to

 

> Maysville. I remember 68 as being a very bad road.

 

> We crossed the Ohio at

 

> Maysville and started up US 62, looking for a place

 

> to stay. We didn't find one until

 

> Hillsboro and it was rather late. It was an old

 

> fashioned "cabin" motel.

 

> Somehow I wound up getting my own room, and I was

 

> thrilled to death. It was almost

 

> like being an adult and going on my own road trip!

 

> The next day, we avoided

 

> Columbus and took Ohio 4 to Lake Erie. After a visit

 

> to the Cedar Point

 

> amusement park, we went on to my grandparents' house

 

> in Toledo.

 

>

 

=====================================================================

 

> "The restaurant was on the corner of old US 11W (Lee

 

> Highway)

 

> and old US 25E (Cumberland Gap Loop of the Dixie

 

> Highway). "

 

>

 

> By the 1970s, 11W had acquired a bad reputation. So

 

> much so that there was a

 

> country song called "11W Bloody Highway" that the

 

> Knoxville stations played in

 

> 1973. I drove that road a year earlier, and it

 

> scared me to death. For once,

 

> I was glad to see an interstate completed.

 

>

 

> Tom Hoffman

 

> Pearisburg VA

 

>

 

>

 

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

 

> removed]

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems,

 

but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dennis Karlstad has made his video footage of the 9-16-05 John Steinbeck Awards

 

Luncheon available for sale. To find out how to order, go to

 

www.route66museum.org under "Latest News" last paragraph of John Steinbeck

 

Awards Luncheon 2005 article gives contact info. I have my copy. Thank you,

 

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In a message dated 11/16/05 7:57:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,

 

hester_nec@yahoo.com writes:

 

The Ballad of Thunder Road had two release dates -

 

originally released on April 23, 1958 (the movie also

 

released in 1958) and re-released on May 2, 1967.

 

====================================================================

 

That may very well be, but I didn't hear it on the radio until the spring of

 

1962, when they played it quite a bit. This was in Washington DC. I think

 

there are regional differences in the popularity of songs, and timing

 

differences

 

as well. I can look at a "Top 100 List for 19xx" and realize that the dates

 

are off by a few months from when it played on Washington stations. But four

 

years is a bit much.

 

 

 

As for 25E over the Gap, it had acquired a fearsome reputation by the time

 

the tunnel was started. You can still walk the old alignment. I understand the

 

long term plans are to remove the pavement and make it look like the Wilderness

 

Road of Daniel Boone's time. Of course with the National Park Service being

 

chronically underfunded, that may be a while.

 

 

 

BTW, I sold a postcard of Cudjo's Cave for $30.00 on Ebay.

 

 

 

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Pearisburg VA

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Guest John Wesson

You can read a one-sided story about it but not any comments

 

dis-agreeing. Roy's in Amboy, Ca.--a REAL mid-dessert Rt. 66 legend

 

has closed for good and is up for sale. Any hope of forcing it to stay

 

open? My Vette club has used it as a staging point for our January

 

'River Run' for years, and it was a 'must stop' when we traveled

 

rt.66. A little 'Trivia' for the history buffs. Roy, the original

 

owner, first scraped out a runway that he used to get to town. When

 

the Gov. placed a light tower to close to the departure end, the FAA

 

wanted him to close it. Instead, he re-classified it a private field,

 

open to anyone who could safely use it. His days, for several of his

 

latter years, were spent sitting by his old hanger door, watching the

 

cars and trucks go by and welcomed anyone--driver or pilot--who would

 

take the time to sit and visit. Unfortunately, most of his stories

 

died with him--a True treasure lost--he is who I went to wanting

 

information about landing at Ludlow, another desert landmark. His

 

answer was--'drag the main street low and slow to wake up the dogs and

 

make sure the cops weren't there' and then land on west main and taxi

 

back for coffee. Just coffee--if you stayed any longer, unwanted

 

visitors had time to get there. His stories used to break up the long

 

trip across the hot desert and both he and his gas station-restaurant,

 

and later motel will be fondly remembered.

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Another 'little useless tidbit of worthless information'==at the end

 

of that 'infamous road' off interstate 15, called ZZYZX, is a cave in

 

the mountain. There, the University of Calif. is doing research on a

 

fish, native to this land-locked cave in the middle of the desert,

 

that has no eyes. There is no way for a fish to get in the cave in the

 

lake inside, nor to live there so many thousands of years that

 

evolution caused its eyes to go away. But yet, here it lives, in total

 

darkness, so it needs no eyes. Who said mother nature isn't great. john

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Very glad to be back in the land of -- if nothing else -- warmer climate (it

 

was minus 20 on Christmas Eve in Spooner!) Woos is still there; got a pic at

 

night with the neon a blazin; when I get set up will email a shot of

 

it...don't know about a clown museum, but Eau Claire is the home of Walter

 

Beer and where Henry Aaron started his pro ball career! Tsingtao, Kip

 

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>

 

> Before we go, just wanted to wish each and every one of you a Merry

 

> Christmas and a New Year brim full of good times and safe travels!

 

> Tsingtao-ding-a-ling! Kip Quinn and Natalie Kay

 

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Kip,

 

 

 

I lived in New Richmond for about 18 months and I can remember when the

 

high for the day was minus 22. And I loved camping in the area of Spooner

 

and Shell Lake in the summer. The last time I was in that area was in '74.

 

 

 

Larry

 

 

 

At 06:58 AM 12/28/2004 -0600, you wrote:

 

 

 

>Very glad to be back in the land of -- if nothing else -- warmer climate (it

 

>was minus 20 on Christmas Eve in Spooner!) Woos is still there; got a pic at

 

>night with the neon a blazin; when I get set up will email a shot of

 

>it...don't know about a clown museum, but Eau Claire is the home of Walter

 

>Beer and where Henry Aaron started his pro ball career! Tsingtao, Kip

 

>----- Original Message -----

 

>From: "Denny Gibson" <denny@dennygibson.com>

 

>To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

>Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 7:56 AM

 

>Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Takin Off to Da Nort Country!

 

>

 

>

 

> >

 

> > Have a safe trip & a Merry Christmas. I've been in Eau Claire once but

 

>don't

 

> > recall WOOS (didn't see attachment, either) but do recall that a Clown

 

> > College was there.

 

> >

 

> > --Denny

 

> >

 

> > -----Original Message-----

 

> > From: Rudyard Welborn [mailto:r.Welborn@worldnet.ATT.net]

 

> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 8:32 AM

 

> > To: ; AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com; Lisa V

 

> > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Takin Off to Da Nort Country!

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Yo!

 

> >

 

> > Well, we are off to the great white north tomorrow, the land of US 53 and

 

> > 63, cheese, beer, cheese, beer, and the worlds greatest chinese roadhouse

 

> > WOOS CHINESE PAGODA (on US 53 in Eau Claire, WI)! Now that I can do such

 

> > things, see a pic of the front of this excellent place in the attachment.

 

> >

 

> > Before we go, just wanted to wish each and every one of you a Merry

 

> > Christmas and a New Year brim full of good times and safe travels!

 

> > Tsingtao-ding-a-ling! Kip Quinn and Natalie Kay

 

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Guest Denny Gibson

My goof on the clowns. I've been in Wisconsin a total of three times:

 

Madison, Eau Claire, & Baraboo. The Ringlings are from Baraboo and there is

 

a museum there ( http://www.circusworldmuseum.com/ ). No doubt I confused

 

Eau Claire with Baraboo and "clown college" with "circus museum". That's my

 

story and I'm sticking to it. BTW, thank you Google.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

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From: Rudyard Welborn [mailto:r.Welborn@worldnet.ATT.net]

 

Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:59 AM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Takin Off to Da Nort Country!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Very glad to be back in the land of -- if nothing else -- warmer climate (it

 

was minus 20 on Christmas Eve in Spooner!) Woos is still there; got a pic at

 

night with the neon a blazin; when I get set up will email a shot of

 

it...don't know about a clown museum, but Eau Claire is the home of Walter

 

Beer and where Henry Aaron started his pro ball career! Tsingtao, Kip

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: "Denny Gibson" <denny@dennygibson.com>

 

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 7:56 AM

 

Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Takin Off to Da Nort Country!

 

 

 

 

 

>

 

> Have a safe trip & a Merry Christmas. I've been in Eau Claire once but

 

don't

 

> recall WOOS (didn't see attachment, either) but do recall that a Clown

 

> College was there.

 

>

 

> --Denny

 

>

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: Rudyard Welborn [mailto:r.Welborn@worldnet.ATT.net]

 

> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 8:32 AM

 

> To: ; AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com; Lisa V

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Takin Off to Da Nort Country!

 

>

 

>

 

> Yo!

 

>

 

> Well, we are off to the great white north tomorrow, the land of US 53 and

 

> 63, cheese, beer, cheese, beer, and the worlds greatest chinese roadhouse

 

> WOOS CHINESE PAGODA (on US 53 in Eau Claire, WI)! Now that I can do such

 

> things, see a pic of the front of this excellent place in the attachment.

 

>

 

> Before we go, just wanted to wish each and every one of you a Merry

 

> Christmas and a New Year brim full of good times and safe travels!

 

> Tsingtao-ding-a-ling! Kip Quinn and Natalie Kay

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I guess you're out of the loop.

 

 

 

About six months ago, Albert Okura of the Juan Pollo restaurants in

 

California bought the entire town of Amboy. Okura has been slowly but

 

steadily fixing up Roy's and probably will have at least part of it

 

open by next year.

 

 

 

Here's a story with details:

 

 

 

http://www.mohavedailynews.com/articles/20...ocal/local5.txt

 

 

 

Ron Warnick

 

Tulsa, OK

 

www.route66news.org

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "John Wesson" <ipilot66@y...> wrote:

 

>

 

> You can read a one-sided story about it but not any comments

 

> dis-agreeing. Roy's in Amboy, Ca.--a REAL mid-dessert Rt. 66 legend

 

> has closed for good and is up for sale. Any hope of forcing it to stay

 

> open? My Vette club has used it as a staging point for our January

 

> 'River Run' for years, and it was a 'must stop' when we traveled

 

> rt.66. A little 'Trivia' for the history buffs. Roy, the original

 

> owner, first scraped out a runway that he used to get to town. When

 

> the Gov. placed a light tower to close to the departure end, the FAA

 

> wanted him to close it. Instead, he re-classified it a private field,

 

> open to anyone who could safely use it. His days, for several of his

 

> latter years, were spent sitting by his old hanger door, watching the

 

> cars and trucks go by and welcomed anyone--driver or pilot--who would

 

> take the time to sit and visit. Unfortunately, most of his stories

 

> died with him--a True treasure lost--he is who I went to wanting

 

> information about landing at Ludlow, another desert landmark. His

 

> answer was--'drag the main street low and slow to wake up the dogs and

 

> make sure the cops weren't there' and then land on west main and taxi

 

> back for coffee. Just coffee--if you stayed any longer, unwanted

 

> visitors had time to get there. His stories used to break up the long

 

> trip across the hot desert and both he and his gas station-restaurant,

 

> and later motel will be fondly remembered.

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "rwarn17588" <rwarn17588@y...>

 

wrote:

 

>I knew it had been sold, but had not seen any progress being made.

 

Been down I-40 4 times in last 5 weeks, but no time to go through

 

Amboy. Thanks for the update. It is a great 'one-day destination' and

 

the little town of Essex is nearby for some good 'old time stories'.

 

Unfortunately, 66 is a pretty good ways off 1-40 in that area, the

 

road is getting pretty rough and a little daunting for the average

 

traveler. By the way, I was thru your state just recently and was

 

really saddened by the fires. That Sunday night we were sent north

 

around some of the fires, even shut down the I-40 because of a tanker

 

fire. It really looked like the world was burning. It was spread over

 

an area larger than even our Calif. brush fires. I read of one area

 

that I had passed thru that lost 22 homes, not counting the

 

'outbuildings.'

 

> I guess you're out of the loop.

 

>

 

> About six months ago, Albert Okura of the Juan Pollo restaurants in

 

> California bought the entire town of Amboy. Okura has been slowly but

 

> steadily fixing up Roy's and probably will have at least part of it

 

> open by next year.

 

>

 

> Here's a story with details:

 

>

 

> http://www.mohavedailynews.com/articles/20...ocal/local5.txt

 

>

 

> Ron Warnick

 

> Tulsa, OK

 

> www.route66news.org

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "John Wesson" <ipilot66@y...>

 

wrote:

 

> >

 

> > You can read a one-sided story about it but not any comments

 

> > dis-agreeing. Roy's in Amboy, Ca.--a REAL mid-dessert Rt. 66 legend

 

> > has closed for good and is up for sale. Any hope of forcing it to stay

 

> > open? My Vette club has used it as a staging point for our January

 

> > 'River Run' for years, and it was a 'must stop' when we traveled

 

> > rt.66. A little 'Trivia' for the history buffs. Roy, the original

 

> > owner, first scraped out a runway that he used to get to town. When

 

> > the Gov. placed a light tower to close to the departure end, the FAA

 

> > wanted him to close it. Instead, he re-classified it a private field,

 

> > open to anyone who could safely use it. His days, for several of his

 

> > latter years, were spent sitting by his old hanger door, watching the

 

> > cars and trucks go by and welcomed anyone--driver or pilot--who would

 

> > take the time to sit and visit. Unfortunately, most of his stories

 

> > died with him--a True treasure lost--he is who I went to wanting

 

> > information about landing at Ludlow, another desert landmark. His

 

> > answer was--'drag the main street low and slow to wake up the dogs and

 

> > make sure the cops weren't there' and then land on west main and taxi

 

> > back for coffee. Just coffee--if you stayed any longer, unwanted

 

> > visitors had time to get there. His stories used to break up the long

 

> > trip across the hot desert and both he and his gas station-restaurant,

 

> > and later motel will be fondly remembered.

 

>

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<<You can read a one-sided story about it but not any comments

 

dis-agreeing. Roy's in Amboy, Ca.--a REAL mid-dessert Rt. 66 legend

 

has closed for good and is up for sale. Any hope of forcing it to stay

 

open?>>

 

 

 

This is incorrect. Roy's and the entire town of Amboy has been bought by the

 

owner of the Juan Pollo restaurant chain and is being refurbished. I can verify

 

this first hand; I stopped in at Roy's two weeks ago and spent about a half hour

 

with the gentleman doing the restoration (I blogged about it as part of the

 

National Old Trails "desert blogging" posted at www.myspace.com/adamghost )

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There's a clown camp in La Crosse, which is on the coast of the

 

Mississippi, too. It's south of Eau Claire, but about 80 miles south.

 

If you're bound that way, it's worth checking out. I'd go just

 

because I like clowns and circuses, but it's your trip so you decide.

 

 

 

For the benefit of anyone else who may be reading this and wanting to

 

check out the clown camp, http://www.uwlax.edu/clowncamp/ It's

 

actually part of the University of Wisconsin system, but not an

 

accredited clown college. My wife enjoyed it, and makes money doing

 

parties for kids (of all ages, naturally).

 

 

 

Just as an aside, Hank Aaron ended his pro baseball career in

 

Milwaukee as a DH with Milwaukee's Brewers. He hit his first and last

 

big league homers in County Stadium, and for different leagues, too.

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Rudyard Welborn"

 

<r.Welborn@w...> wrote:

 

> Very glad to be back in the land of -- if nothing else -- warmer

 

climate (it

 

> was minus 20 on Christmas Eve in Spooner!) Woos is still there; got

 

a pic at

 

> night with the neon a blazin; when I get set up will email a shot of

 

> it...don't know about a clown museum, but Eau Claire is the home of

 

Walter

 

> Beer and where Henry Aaron started his pro ball career! Tsingtao,

 

Kip

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...>

 

> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 7:56 AM

 

> Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Takin Off to Da Nort Country!

 

>

 

>

 

> >

 

> > Have a safe trip & a Merry Christmas. I've been in Eau Claire

 

once but

 

> don't

 

> > recall WOOS (didn't see attachment, either) but do recall that a

 

Clown

 

> > College was there.

 

> >

 

> > --Denny

 

> >

 

> > -----Original Message-----

 

> > From: Rudyard Welborn [mailto:r.Welborn@w...]

 

> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 8:32 AM

 

> > To: ; AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com; Lisa V

 

> > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Takin Off to Da Nort Country!

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Yo!

 

> >

 

> > Well, we are off to the great white north tomorrow, the land of

 

US 53 and

 

> > 63, cheese, beer, cheese, beer, and the worlds greatest chinese

 

roadhouse

 

> > WOOS CHINESE PAGODA (on US 53 in Eau Claire, WI)! Now that I can

 

do such

 

> > things, see a pic of the front of this excellent place in the

 

attachment.

 

> >

 

> > Before we go, just wanted to wish each and every one of you a

 

Merry

 

> > Christmas and a New Year brim full of good times and safe travels!

 

> > Tsingtao-ding-a-ling! Kip Quinn and Natalie Kay

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com

 

> >

 

> > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-

 

5434

 

> WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY!

 

> > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA

 

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> > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95

 

> > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!)

 

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