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Greetings Dave!

 

 

 

You're entirely welcome and I thank you also. Glad you enjoyed the

 

short narrative. Maybe American Road magazine will want to do a full

 

feature article on the subject someday. I sure have mucho photos to

 

go along with it.

 

 

 

God Bless and Happy Trails.

 

 

 

the landrunner

 

 

 

 

 

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> In a message dated 1/23/04 6:27:41 AM, thelandrunner@y... writes:

 

>

 

> << I can't seem to recall anyone ever posting about a visit to a

 

town or

 

>

 

> village which had not one paved road, not one automobile, not one

 

>

 

> payphone, not one,...well, you get the picture. That alone brings

 

the

 

>

 

> hiking post on topic, and makes one appreciate even more, the

 

>

 

> historic value and practical use importance of the 'paved' Two Lane

 

>

 

> Highways that each and everyone of us can enjoy everyday with the

 

>

 

> adventures that abound at the end of those paved roads. >>

 

>

 

> thanks for putting this in perspective, it is broadminded

 

> to consider no-lane roads with no cars to be part of the

 

> american road experience, it's more proof that there is

 

> more to american roads than just the two-lanes.

 

>

 

> << Reservation Road #18 from Route 66 to the

 

>

 

> trailhead at the edge of the canyon's edge, called Havasupai

 

Hilltop

 

>

 

> (called just "Hilltop" by the locals) is remarkable, traversing

 

>

 

> through numerous altitude changes which display various plants and

 

>

 

> tree life, and also passes through a "no zone" where practically

 

>

 

> nothing is growing. This 60 mile road is one of the most desolate

 

120

 

>

 

> mile round trip that you can make. No facilities whatsoever. Zilch.

 

>

 

> You'll be lucky to pass two cars the whole time, not to mention the

 

>

 

> photo ops in the ghost town of Frazier Well's and well as the

 

>

 

> abandoned lodge that was never completed. >>

 

>

 

> this is a good example of descriptive writing that is

 

> entertaining and informative, good going.

 

>

 

> a random thought just crossed my mind,

 

>

 

> do roads scholars attend Tulane Univ.?, just wondering, Dave

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I clicked on this geocities/yahoo link for the Texas

 

highway....it came back page not found. Should I copy and

 

paste it into an address window, perhaps?

 

 

 

Matt Smallwood

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> > New trivia question:

 

> >

 

> > What is the shortest distance that any US highway

 

> spends in one state?

 

> >

 

> > US 340 crosses the Potomac River from Maryland into

 

> Virginia. Less

 

> than a

 

> > half mile later, it goes into West Virginia.

 

> >

 

> > The other candidate might be US 60 in Illinois,

 

> between the Ohio and

 

> > Mississippi Rivers.

 

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> US 62 is also cosigned with US 60 on the short portion

 

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> Illinois.

 

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> I think the winner would have to be easbound US 56-64-412

 

> and Texas. 

 

> Northeast of Clayton, NM, the highway barely clips the

 

> northwest corner

 

> of Texas.  The corner is in the middle of the road,

 

> so the eastbound

 

> lanes enter Texas for a very short distance.

 

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> This site has more information and some photos:

 

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I know what you're talking about, roaddog. Ever been to

 

Parker's BBQ in Wilson, NC.? It's very good, too. I may fly

 

into Greensboro for the Merlefest music fest this

 

spring...how far is Goldsboro from Greensboro?

 

 

 

Matt Smallwood

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:44:39 -0000

 

"roaddog_rt66" <roaddog_rt66@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

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>

 

>

 

>

 

> Remember to check out some of that great eastern North

 

> Carolina

 

> barbeque, push it around with hushpuppies, and wash it

 

> down with

 

> sweet tea.

 

>

 

> On your way back, if you have time, take US 70 and stop

 

> at Wilber's

 

> BarbeQue on the US-70 bypass in Goldsboro, NC.  Not

 

> only is the bbq

 

> superb, but the interior is pure southern dining at its

 

> finest.

 

>

 

> Go downtown and check out the Record Rack which, sadly to

 

> say, is

 

> closing after operating since 1972.  You can pick up

 

> some Beach

 

> Music CDs and Stan Hartley will be happy to assist you in

 

> your

 

> selection.  I hate to see another of the mom and pop

 

> record stores

 

> closing.

 

>

 

> You might be wondering just what Beach Music is. 

 

> Most of you

 

> probably immediately thought of the Beach Boys or Jan and

 

> Dean. 

 

> That would be very wrong.  It is R&B and many

 

> other influences

 

> dating from the 50s to the present. It has a very

 

> distinct beat you

 

> can dance to.  The dance is called the Shag (NC's

 

> state dance), and

 

> I'm not talking about the shag in England.  It is

 

> sort of like a

 

> slow bop.

 

>

 

> To get a good idea of it, and you go to beachshag on the

 

> internet

 

> and listen to Fessa John Hook's Endless Summer

 

> network. 

 

> http://www.beachshag.com

 

>

 

> Also, check out the Fort Fisher Museum near the end of

 

> 421.  This is

 

> a little-known, but very pivotal battle near the end of

 

> the Civil

 

> War.  Right now, they have an Armstrong 100 pdr.

 

> cannon on temporary

 

> loan from West Point as well as a Whitworth cannon, one

 

> of the most

 

> advanced pieces of artillery at the time.  You can

 

> also learn about

 

> the blockade and blockade-running.

 

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> Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway and a Happy New

 

> Year.--RoadDog

 

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> > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Russell

 

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> > <Ypsi-slim@j...> wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > I can't remember but I believe I was on it

 

> today.  This is day 3

 

> of

 

> > my US

 

> > > 421 trip.

 

> > > Started out Thursday in Michigan City, IN and

 

> made it into

 

> > Wilmington, NC

 

> > > tonite.

 

> > > I left Bristol, VA this morning - the first

 

> part of the trip

 

> today thru

 

> > > TN was a crazy

 

> > > rollercoaster mountain drive.  More on

 

> this later.

 

> > >

 

> > > Happy new year everyone!!

 

> > >

 

> > > ypsi-slim

 

> > >

 

> > > On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:36:32 EST

 

> egyptianzipper@a... writes:

 

> > > In a message dated 12/31/05 9:58:34 AM Eastern

 

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> > > hester_nec@y... writes:

 

> > > I have a trivia question for everyone this

 

> morning - where doe U

 

> S

 

> > > highways 60, 61 and 62 intersect???

 

> > >

 

>

 

====================================================================

 

> > > And where to US routes 221, 321 and 421

 

> intersect?

 

> > >

 

> > > Tom Hoffman

 

> > > Pearisburg VA

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > That would be Boone, NC

 

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> I actually knew this...the reference was more aimed at its status as

 

a total

 

> mystery route south of the Turrell Twist (intersec of 63, 55 and 61)

 

(was

 

> through there in October; it is still not marked)

 

>

 

> However two things: 1) 63 and 61 piggyback 55 to the I-40 interchange;

 

> enroute it pickes up 64 at Marion...I don't know how 70 and 79 fit

 

into the

 

> time space conundrum but you have at least three US routes

 

intersecting at

 

> Marion....Tsingtao Kip

 

 

 

Now here's the strange part: The highway continuing east from the I-

 

55/US 64 interchange is signed as US 64. According to signage, 64 ends

 

at AR 77. Also, US 79 is signed to 'disappear' at I-40 instead of

 

piggybacking US 70 towards West Memphis which is US 79's official route.

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I'm going to be travelling from Kansas City to Phoenix in a couple

 

of weeks. I plan on heading down to Oklahoma City via the I-35, and

 

then west on I-40. I don't have a TON of time, but I would like to

 

take advantage of the trip. This'll be my first time to drive over

 

that part of the country rather than fly over it. Like I said, I

 

don't have a ton of time, but I do want to see the highlights along

 

the way.

 

 

 

Can anyone provide any advice as to what I should DEFINITELY see,

 

and things that I SHOULD see if I have extra time?

 

 

 

Thanks in advance for any replies.

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "roaddog_rt66"

 

<roaddog_rt66@y...> wrote:

 

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> Remember to check out some of that great eastern North Carolina

 

> barbeque, push it around with hushpuppies, and wash it down with

 

> sweet tea.

 

 

 

Now you're speaking my language here!

 

 

 

> On your way back, if you have time, take US 70 and stop at

 

Wilber's

 

> BarbeQue on the US-70 bypass in Goldsboro, NC. Not only is the

 

bbq

 

> superb, but the interior is pure southern dining at its finest.

 

 

 

Does anybody know any good BBQ joints in Little Rock, Arkansas? I'm

 

in the process of moving there, and the place I used to get BBQ

 

from, Jo-Jo's, has closed. (While I was writing this post, I

 

typed "Jo-Jo's" into Yahoo Yellow Pages, and a listing came up for a

 

Jo-Jo's in Sherwood. I'll have to check it out next time I'm up

 

there. Stay tuned for details). I've lived in Arkansas most of my

 

life, and Jo-Jo's was the only place I ever went to in Little Rock

 

because it was so good. I went to Whole Hog BBQ once, but the BBQ

 

was too salty. There's an excellent BBQ joint in Conway, Smitty's.

 

They have several different sauces: regular mild, shack, sweet, and

 

several different levels of hot. One day, I decided to try the hot

 

sauce, and I couldn't eat more than 3 bites. I later found out it

 

was flavored with habanero pepper, which explans the heat. There is

 

also a Corky's in LR, but I always found Corky's a bit bland.

 

Shorty Smalls' sauce is Jack Daniels whiskey based, but I don't

 

really like BBQ that tastes like liquor. Anyway, does anybody have

 

any BBQ joints in Little Rock to recommend?

 

 

 

I lived in Kansas City for a couple of years, and I ended up gaining

 

about 40 pounds that I have since lost, which can partially be

 

blamed on the excellent BBQ available in KC. I would recommend

 

Gates and LC's if you're ever in the area and hungry for BBQ.

 

 

 

Now I'm hungry for BBQ.

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> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: <rudkip@s...>

 

> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 8:05 AM

 

> Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Road Trips Trivia Question

 

>

 

>

 

> >I actually knew this...the reference was more aimed at its status

 

as a

 

> >total

 

> > mystery route south of the Turrell Twist (intersec of 63, 55 and

 

61) (was

 

> > through there in October; it is still not marked)

 

> >

 

> > However two things: 1) 63 and 61 piggyback 55 to the I-40

 

interchange;

 

> > enroute it pickes up 64 at Marion...I don't know how 70 and 79

 

fit into

 

> > the

 

> > time space conundrum but you have at least three US routes

 

intersecting at

 

> > Marion....Tsingtao Kip

 

>

 

>

 

> 70/79 run parallel to I-40 just to the south. They merge with I-

 

55 just

 

> before the Mississippi River, creating the 61/64/70/79 multiplex.

 

 

 

Although US 79 is unsigned along this stretch.

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Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 7:44 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Road Trips Trivia Question

 

 

 

 

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <thehinge@m...> wrote:

 

>>

 

>> Anyone know if MO 94, which runs along the Missouri River,

 

>> used to be signed as a US highway?

 

>

 

> I'm pretty sure it wasn't, but its southern counterpart, MO 100, was

 

> once signed as US 50 east of the US 50/I-44 split.

 

 

 

 

 

Also US66 from 1926-1932 ;)

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The entire road system between the turrell twist and Memphis is just plain

 

complicated...thank god you can still pick up a pecan log at Stuckeys (along

 

with a FREE map of Memphis) to calm the nerves! Tsingtao Kip

 

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Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 7:45 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Road Trips Trivia Question

 

 

 

 

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "David Backlin" <us71@s...>

 

> wrote:

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > ----- Original Message -----

 

> > From: <rudkip@s...>

 

> > To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

> > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 8:05 AM

 

> > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Road Trips Trivia Question

 

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> >

 

> > >I actually knew this...the reference was more aimed at its status

 

> as a

 

> > >total

 

> > > mystery route south of the Turrell Twist (intersec of 63, 55 and

 

> 61) (was

 

> > > through there in October; it is still not marked)

 

> > >

 

> > > However two things: 1) 63 and 61 piggyback 55 to the I-40

 

> interchange;

 

> > > enroute it pickes up 64 at Marion...I don't know how 70 and 79

 

> fit into

 

> > > the

 

> > > time space conundrum but you have at least three US routes

 

> intersecting at

 

> > > Marion....Tsingtao Kip

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > 70/79 run parallel to I-40 just to the south. They merge with I-

 

> 55 just

 

> > before the Mississippi River, creating the 61/64/70/79 multiplex.

 

>

 

> Although US 79 is unsigned along this stretch.

 

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If you are going to make it on 40 to the TX/NM border, make a stop in

 

Glenrio (I think it is the last exit in TX; it is BR 40)...it is probably

 

one of the great lonesome stretches you'll drive and Glenrio is one of the

 

coolest ghost towns you will ever encounter...not far off the interstate and

 

worth the diversion! Tsingtao Kip

 

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> then west on I-40. I don't have a TON of time, but I would like to

 

> take advantage of the trip. This'll be my first time to drive over

 

> that part of the country rather than fly over it. Like I said, I

 

> don't have a ton of time, but I do want to see the highlights along

 

> the way.

 

>

 

> Can anyone provide any advice as to what I should DEFINITELY see,

 

> and things that I SHOULD see if I have extra time?

 

>

 

> Thanks in advance for any replies.

 

>

 

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On Wednesday I left home and headed toward Memphis. The next step turned out

 

to be US-61 north to St Louis with a jog through Dexter and stretch of

 

MO-25. Then it was Historic 66 to a bit beyond Rolla and US-50 home. I met

 

up with group member Alex

 

Burr in Memphis and spent New Year's Eve in Rolla with some local roadies

 

and some Indiana travelers including this group's moderators.

 

 

 

I'm back home now and ready (cough, cough) to return to work tomorrow. The

 

six day trip is up at

 

www.dennygibson.com/memphis2005

 

 

 

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Cincinnati, OH

 

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

I really like Burgs book; I like the fact that he talks about the trees,

 

plants, flowers etc. he comes across as well as everything else...his

 

website is pretty excellent too! Tsingtao, Kip

 

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Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 11:57 AM

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] US-50: THE LONELIEST ROAD

 

 

 

 

 

Wulf Berg's site a very good one. I been on it a few times!

 

 

 

Alex Burr <hester_nec@yahoo.com> wrote:A great trip across U S 50 is Wulf

 

Berg's journey.

 

And, yes, he wrote a book about it. Neat thing about

 

Wulf's book is you can read a chapter a day and it's

 

like driving it yourself. I'm not sure if copies are

 

still available, but his web site is:

 

 

 

http://www.route50.com/

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- chris wrote:

 

> A couple good reads, enjoy! . . . Chris, NJ Exit 7-A

 

>

 

> _____________________________________

 

>

 

> Love Notes and Ghosts on a Lonely Road

 

> By CHRIS DIXON

 

>

 

> Published: February 20, 2004 The New York Times

 

>

 

> . . . Highway 50, a transcontinental road that, in

 

> the era of the

 

> interstate, stands largely forgotten. The

 

> 400-mile-long stretch from Carson

 

> City to the Great Basin National Park (one of

 

> America's least visited and

 

> most remote National Parks) has been nicknamed

 

> America's Loneliest Highway.

 

>

 

>

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/20/automobiles/20LONE.html

 

>

 

>

 

> _____________________________________

 

>

 

>

 

> US-50: THE LONELIEST ROAD

 

> Road Trip USA

 

>

 

> Running coast-to-coast through the heart of America

 

> on a 3,200-mile odyssey

 

> from sea to shining sea, US-50 passes through a

 

> dozen different states and

 

> four state capitals, as well as the nation?s

 

> capital, Washington, D.C. Along

 

> the route are some of the country?s most magnificent

 

> landscapes: the

 

> Appalachian, Rocky, and Sierra Nevada mountains, the

 

> endless farmlands of

 

> the Great Plains, and the desiccated deserts of Utah

 

> and Nevada. It follows

 

> the footsteps of pioneers along the Santa Fe Trail

 

> and the route of the Pony

 

> Express, and gives an uncannily consistent time line

 

> of national

 

> development. Heading west to east, you can travel

 

> back in history from the

 

> cutting-edge high tech of contemporary Silicon

 

> Valley, across the Wild West

 

> frontier of the mid-1800s, and through lands the

 

> likes of Daniel Boone and

 

> countless others pioneered in the 1700s, before

 

> arriving at the Atlantic

 

> Ocean near some of the oldest and best-preserved

 

> colonial-era landscapes in

 

> the USA.

 

>

 

> http://www.roadtripusa.com/us_50/index.html

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> _____________________________________

 

>

 

> NASCAR Fans, Get Up On The Pit Wagon!

 

> Visit... http://www.experiencenascar.com/

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

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If Stewart did a book on 50 let us know how to get it! Have seen Stewarts

 

book on 40--very cool! Tsingtao, kip

 

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Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:10 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-50: THE LONELIEST ROAD

 

 

 

 

 

Uh, Ken? Wasn't George Stewart's book about U.S. 40? I didn't know

 

he ever wrote a book about U.S. 50. However, Stewart's U.S. 40 is a

 

wonderful book! I finally got a copy after almost 20 years. It's a

 

wonderful piece of Americana that really gives you a flavor of what

 

cross-country travel was like before the Interstates came on the

 

scene. I found my copy on Abe's books. It's in pretty good shape,

 

too.

 

 

 

-Fred M. Cain

 

 

 

 

 

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> Greetings,

 

>

 

> Would like to get a copy of Berg's book. Has anyone read George

 

> Stewart's US 50 book? Stewart has put together quite a number of

 

> books related to early american travel, trails and roads. One of my

 

> favorites is Ordeal by Hunger, the story of the ill fated Donner

 

> Party who traversed the mentioned area by wagon train in the 1800's.

 

>

 

> Will have the pleasure of spending three days along Nevada's

 

portion

 

> of US50/US93/LH during the last week of May. Sure hoping that Mount

 

> Wheeler will still have some snow atop, for the signage along US6

 

in

 

> that area still uses the shield shaped signs, and Wheeler makes for

 

a

 

> super great background photo op.

 

>

 

> God Bless and Happy Trails.

 

>

 

> the landrunner

 

> <http://www.postmarkart.com/links.htm>

 

>

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...>

 

> wrote:

 

> > A great trip across U S 50 is Wulf Berg's journey.

 

> > And, yes, he wrote a book about it. Neat thing about

 

> > Wulf's book is you can read a chapter a day and it's

 

> > like driving it yourself. I'm not sure if copies are

 

> > still available, but his web site is:

 

> >

 

> > http://www.route50.com/

 

> >

 

> > Hudsonly,

 

> > Alex B

 

> >

 

> > --- chris <chris@e...> wrote:

 

> > > A couple good reads, enjoy! . . . Chris, NJ Exit 7-A

 

> > >

 

> > > _____________________________________

 

> > >

 

> > > Love Notes and Ghosts on a Lonely Road

 

> > > By CHRIS DIXON

 

> > >

 

> > > Published: February 20, 2004 The New York Times

 

> > >

 

> > > . . . Highway 50, a transcontinental road that, in

 

> > > the era of the

 

> > > interstate, stands largely forgotten. The

 

> > > 400-mile-long stretch from Carson

 

> > > City to the Great Basin National Park (one of

 

> > > America's least visited and

 

> > > most remote National Parks) has been nicknamed

 

> > > America's Loneliest Highway.

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/20/automobiles/20LONE.html

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > _____________________________________

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > US-50: THE LONELIEST ROAD

 

> > > Road Trip USA

 

> > >

 

> > > Running coast-to-coast through the heart of America

 

> > > on a 3,200-mile odyssey

 

> > > from sea to shining sea, US-50 passes through a

 

> > > dozen different states and

 

> > > four state capitals, as well as the nation?s

 

> > > capital, Washington, D.C. Along

 

> > > the route are some of the country?s most magnificent

 

> > > landscapes: the

 

> > > Appalachian, Rocky, and Sierra Nevada mountains, the

 

> > > endless farmlands of

 

> > > the Great Plains, and the desiccated deserts of Utah

 

> > > and Nevada. It follows

 

> > > the footsteps of pioneers along the Santa Fe Trail

 

> > > and the route of the Pony

 

> > > Express, and gives an uncannily consistent time line

 

> > > of national

 

> > > development. Heading west to east, you can travel

 

> > > back in history from the

 

> > > cutting-edge high tech of contemporary Silicon

 

> > > Valley, across the Wild West

 

> > > frontier of the mid-1800s, and through lands the

 

> > > likes of Daniel Boone and

 

> > > countless others pioneered in the 1700s, before

 

> > > arriving at the Atlantic

 

> > > Ocean near some of the oldest and best-preserved

 

> > > colonial-era landscapes in

 

> > > the USA.

 

> > >

 

> > > http://www.roadtripusa.com/us_50/index.html

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > _____________________________________

 

> > >

 

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> > > Visit... http://www.experiencenascar.com/

 

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> Still, I hope I'll be able to make it. I just don't get to Ohio and

 

it would

 

> be fun to see that part of the U.S.A.

 

>

 

> Regards,

 

>

 

> Shellee G.

 

 

 

Ms. Graham,

 

"When" you decide you're going to Springfield, let us know when

 

it'll be. I think we could probably escort you along The National

 

Road to Springfield from Indy. :-)

 

 

 

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The reflector's are known as "Bott's Dot", invented in England.

 

 

 

Mark

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <rudkip@s...>

 

wrote:

 

> In the near future when you are travelling Missouri's highways,

 

you will see fewer and fewer raised reflectors dotting the middle

 

of the road. MoDot is going to phase them out because of

 

several accidents being caused by the reflectors coming loose

 

and crashing through windshields...here's hoping that this

 

makes your travels down the blue highways of Missouri a better

 

and safer experience! Tsingtao Kip

 

>

 

>

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jerrymc66" <jerrymc66@p...>

 

wrote:

 

> Press Release

 

>

 

> 2-25-2004

 

>

 

> Announcing the coming of a brand new Guidebook to Route 66!

 

>

 

 

 

Any approximate dates on the release date of this book, Jerry?

 

 

 

Ron Warnick

 

Belleville, IL

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$5,000 needed to move sign

 

By P.J. LASSEK World Staff Writer

 

2/26/2004

 

 

 

The Gold Meadow sign, a Route 66 relic, was to be restored, not

 

moved. But new ownership of the building it sits atop has changed

 

those plans.

 

 

 

The restoration of a Route 66 icon has hit a roadblock, sending

 

preservationists in search of $5,000 in donations.

 

 

 

The rusty, old Meadow Gold sign that sits on top of an abandoned

 

building at 11th Street and Lewis Avenue was set to be restored to

 

its original grandeur.

 

 

 

But the building, where the sign has advertised door-to-door dairy

 

deliveries since the 1930s, has been purchased, and the sign must be

 

removed.

 

 

 

The Tulsa Foundation for Architecture had hoped to restore the sign

 

at its current location in time for the International Tulsa Route 66

 

Festival, a four-day event in June that is expected to attract tens

 

of thousands of international and domestic travelers.

 

 

 

Lee Anne Zeigler, executive director of the foundation, said the

 

business owner

 

 

 

will donate the sign so that it can be relocated elsewhere in Tulsa

 

along Route 66.

 

 

 

The foundation, assisted by the Oklahoma Route 66 Association, is

 

seeking any public donations to help transfer the sign to a location

 

where it can be restored.

 

 

 

"We can't afford to lose another Route 66 icon, especially when the

 

new property owner is willing to give us this wonderful piece of

 

history," said Rick Schmigle, eastern vice president of the Oklahoma

 

Route 66 Association.

 

 

 

Schmigle said there is an immediate need to raise money for the move,

 

a cost not factored into the initial restoration project.

 

 

 

"Time is of the essence. We need to raise $5,000 now," he said.

 

 

 

The building owner has agreed to put his expansion plans on hold,

 

giving preservationists about four weeks to remove the sign, Schmigle

 

said.

 

 

 

Bennett Steel has agreed to move the sign intact to Claude Neon

 

Federal Signs, where the restoration will take place, he added.

 

 

 

The foundation is a nonprofit agency that took on the restoration of

 

the sign with the help of the Oklahoma Route 66 Association.

 

 

 

The Route 66 Association also is a nonprofit group dedicated to the

 

preservation, promotion, and economic development of Route 66 in the

 

state.

 

 

 

Zeigler said the restoration project has received a $15,000 grant as

 

one of 13 recipients of 2003 cost-sharing grants from the Route 66

 

Corridor Preservation Program administered through the National Park

 

Service.

 

 

 

The foundation is raising an additional $35,000 to match the grant

 

and to cover the estimated $50,000 restoration, which also will

 

include neon lighting and two working clocks. The grant money can be

 

used only for restoration and can't be used for removing or

 

relocating the sign, Zeigler said.

 

 

 

Michael Taylor, manager of the Route 66 Corridor Preservation Program

 

with the National Park Service, said the Meadow Gold sign is unique

 

in size and design, setting it apart from other historic neon signs

 

that have been restored along the historic stretch of road in other

 

states.

 

 

 

Restoring it to working condition will be an important catalyst in

 

reminding Tulsans and Route 66 travelers that "Tulsa was and still is

 

a vital link in the transportation route that John Steinbeck called

 

the Mother Road," Taylor said.

 

 

 

Donations can be made to TFA/Save the Sign, c/o Tulsa Foundation for

 

Architecture, 2210-R S. Main St., Tulsa, OK 74114.

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Back in August okydokey89 (a.k.a. Jabba) asked about motels near Zanesville,

 

OH. The discussion was sort of steered toward Baker's near the National

 

Road/Zane Grey Museum. I don't recall any subsequent report and it appears

 

that okydokey89 is no longer a member of the group - at least not by that

 

name. Has anyone (including Jabba) learned anything about Baker's since

 

August (or before, even)? From the web, it looks promising and, unless I

 

hear something here to dissuade me, I'll probably stay there some time this

 

spring.

 

 

 

Denny Gibson

 

Cincinnati, OH

 

www.DennyGibson.com

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Actually, Botts Dots aren't reflectors, but the rounded white objects glued on

 

the pavement lines. Also, Dr. Elbert D. Botts was a Caltrans engineer who

 

created the markers back in 1953:

 

 

 

http://www.its.berkeley.edu/techtransfer/r...99/genesis.html<ht

 

tp://www.its.berkeley.edu/techtransfer/resources/pub/nl/fall99/genesis.html>

 

 

 

Mike Ward

 

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Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 12:38 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: raised reflectors on the out in MO

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The reflector's are known as "Bott's Dot", invented in England.

 

 

 

Mark

 

 

 

--- In <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>,

 

<rudkip@s<mailto:rudkip@s>...>

 

wrote:

 

> In the near future when you are travelling Missouri's highways,

 

you will see fewer and fewer raised reflectors dotting the middle

 

of the road. MoDot is going to phase them out because of

 

several accidents being caused by the reflectors coming loose

 

and crashing through windshields...here's hoping that this

 

makes your travels down the blue highways of Missouri a better

 

and safer experience! Tsingtao Kip

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Cool. Maybe we can have a Rendez-Indy-Cincy-Vous. Plus, the south end of

 

Ohio 66 is only about 25 miles from Springfield. That's 25 miles as the

 

buzzard flies (when not heading toward Hinckley).

 

 

 

--Denny

 

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Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Exhibit in Springfield, OHIO

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

 

> Still, I hope I'll be able to make it. I just don't get to Ohio and

 

it would

 

> be fun to see that part of the U.S.A.

 

>

 

> Regards,

 

>

 

> Shellee G.

 

 

 

Ms. Graham,

 

"When" you decide you're going to Springfield, let us know when

 

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Road to Springfield from Indy. :-)

 

 

 

Pat B.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I remember being told, during a visit to the Coleman in Miami, OK, That the

 

suitcase (makeup kit?) that killed Tom Mix had been displayed at the

 

theater. I believe that it was a temporary thing and that it is not there

 

now but I'm not really sure. Can anyone clear up the story of the case's

 

visit (or move)?

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Welcome to your Lincoln Highway E-Newsletter Vol. 4, 2005

 

 

 

Spring is almost here..........yeh right! I'm eating crudites

 

(cut up raw veggies), watching Antiques Roadshow, and

 

writing this newsletter.........ah multitasking.

 

 

 

More Craig Harmon, Lincoln Highway Memorial Fire-

 

Truck Inaugural Parade News

 

http://xrl.us/e5gt

 

......and featuring Mickey Rooney:

 

http://xrl.us/e5gm

 

 

 

From the Chicago Trib. - in Aurora, IL a picnic shelter

 

that was part of a camping area along the old Lincoln

 

Highway in Aurora will get a facelift this spring thanks

 

to a State Grant:

 

http://xrl.us/e5gr

 

and:

 

http://xrl.us/e5g3

 

 

 

From the Jersey Journal - it's the 75th Anniversary of

 

Lincoln Park in Jersey City, NJ and the original LHA

 

had a lot to do with it:

 

http://xrl.us/e5gy

 

It's great to have some Jersey news to report!

 

 

 

Adam Prince has updated his PA LH site, Relics of

 

the Lincoln Highway:

 

http://xrl.us/e5g8

 

 

 

Google has a new on-line map program with nice looking

 

maps. Works by dragging the whole map with your

 

mouse, double-click to center, and a meter on the left to

 

move in and out - pretty slick and you can save your

 

results with the Internet address:

 

http://maps.google.com/maps

 

 

 

 

 

LHA Member pipe in:

 

 

 

That Man from Utah, Rollin Southwell, reports that there

 

will be two special postal cancellations at this summer's

 

LHA National Conference - one in Ely and one in

 

Eureka. I'm trying to help out by publishing one or two

 

postcards featuring great images from the past. I am

 

looking for the real photo postcard of the Ely billboard

 

that looked like a giant open book. If you have this or

 

any other great LH image from Eastern Nevada please

 

contact slim (contact info at the bottom of this page).

 

 

 

Jan Shupert-Arick sent out a teaser about the LHA

 

Indiana Chapter's spring thing at the new Marshall

 

County Transportation Museum in Plymouth, IN this

 

April 30 - more info to follow in future newsletters.

 

 

 

 

 

New Feature

 

 

 

Anyone whose every been to one of the LHA's

 

National Conferences nows that I enjoy sharing

 

my LH finds.........therefore I have created for

 

your pleasure.... * slim's Art O' Facts *

 

go to: www.LincolnHighway.info

 

for some of my recently unearthed treasures

 

 

 

 

 

Ebay Auctions:

 

 

 

More and more treasures are being unearthed due to

 

this on-line auction. I can't afford (literally) to keep up:

 

 

 

An early real photo of Bill's Place on the LHA in PA

 

went for $52.75:

 

http://xrl.us/e5he

 

An even earlier view sent for $173.49!:

 

http://xrl.us/e5hh

 

 

 

A 1/2 pint cream bottle from the Lincoln Highway

 

Dairy in Delphos, OH went for $67.66!:

 

http://xrl.us/e5hf

 

 

 

A real photo of the Cove Mountain Tea Room on

 

the LHA in PA went for $96.99!:

 

http://xrl.us/e5hi

 

 

 

I missed out on the Log Cabin Tourist Camp in

 

Wooster, OH at $52.99:

 

http://xrl.us/e5hj

 

Anyone have a spare? On my top ten want list!

 

 

 

A business card from the famous Coffee Pot in

 

Bedford, PA went for $32:

 

http://xrl.us/e5hm

 

 

 

A nice real photo of the LH thru Berwyn, PA

 

went for $51:

 

http://xrl.us/e5ho

 

 

 

A pennant for the Maxwell car as winner of the

 

1905 Glidden tour closed tonight at $178

 

http://xrl.us/e5hq

 

 

 

A Diamond Coast to Coast Auto Camp enameled

 

sign closed tonight at $229:

 

http://xrl.us/e5hr

 

 

 

Still 2 minutes left to place your minimum bid of

 

$1,000 on this rather beat-up LH pennant:

 

http://xrl.us/e5hs

 

 

 

And finally......some nut paid $255 for a one penny

 

check!!:

 

http://xrl.us/e5hp

 

More about this check next issue............

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for your attention.........feel free to send

 

me anything for inclusion, your comments,

 

suggestions, criticisms, corrections, etc.

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

your loyal e-editor

 

ypsi-slim

 

 

 

Russell

 

Russell S. Rein

 

ypsi-slim@juno.com

 

522 Maulbetsch Ave.

 

Ypsilanti, MI 48197

 

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I was not a member during the original discussion so I don't know if I

 

am repeating anything. I stayed at the Baker a couple of years ago. It

 

is a standard motel, was clean and reasonably priced. There is a

 

restaurant very near the motel but it changes hands frequently and can

 

be open or closed. I'm not sure of its current status. The museum is

 

nice but small. I love the history of the National Road but only spent

 

an hour there. The location is great. Its close to Zanesville where

 

you can explore all of the potteries (bypass the tourist outlet ones

 

on the freeway and go in town to the real working potteries). Of

 

course you have the national road, with some mile markers still there

 

and s-bridges if you go north toward New Concord. The John Glenn home

 

is open in New Concord also.

 

 

 

Cristy

 

London, Ohio

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Back in August okydokey89 (a.k.a. Jabba) asked about motels near

 

Zanesville,

 

> OH. The discussion was sort of steered toward Baker's near the National

 

> Road/Zane Grey Museum. I don't recall any subsequent report and it

 

appears

 

> that okydokey89 is no longer a member of the group - at least not by

 

that

 

> name. Has anyone (including Jabba) learned anything about Baker's since

 

> August (or before, even)? From the web, it looks promising and, unless I

 

> hear something here to dissuade me, I'll probably stay there some

 

time this

 

> spring.

 

>

 

> Denny Gibson

 

> Cincinnati, OH

 

> www.DennyGibson.com

 

>

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I am taking "Molly's Route 66 Adventure" to my daughters day care

 

today...hope to educate the wee ones while they are impressionable!

 

Tsingtao, Kip

 

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> John Piechocinski, the head custodian at Timber Ridge Middle School

 

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> and Clark Expedition, a very timely thing these days. They moved

 

> Lewis and Clark along a giant map in a hallway. Every page read,

 

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> This would lend itself very nicely to our old roads. If you know an

 

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> I plan on doing Route 66 this year, if I can get the mileages

 

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