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Greetings, All:

 

 

 

I write tonight from the Benson Hotel in downtown Portland. The Preserving =

 

 

 

Historic Roads in America conference has begun.

 

 

 

It's amazing to see such a group of people coming together from all over th=

 

e

 

US. The conference officially gets underway tomorrow. This evening,

 

attendees gathered inside the historic US National Bank Building on

 

Broadway in downtown Portland. I can't possibly list everyone in attendance=

 

.

 

John Ridge is here from the Yellowstone Trail Association. Michael Taylor i=

 

s

 

here to talk about the Route 66 Corridor Act. Jim Conkle is here to work hi=

 

s

 

preservation magic. We've met folks here representing the Apache Trail and =

 

 

 

the National Road. Dan Marriott, conference founder, seems pleased by the

 

turn-out.

 

 

 

The bank building was the perfect place for the pre-conference gathering.

 

Beautiful building with an incredible ambiance. The Benson Hotel—once the

 

Oregon Hotel—was built in 1912. It's one of those classic hotels that has b=

 

een

 

lovingly restored.

 

 

 

I'll try to report more tomorrow as the conference officially gets underway=

 

. For

 

tonight, the mood is electric. This is one conference that's sure to be

 

remembered for a long time.

 

 

 

Thomas Repp

 

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Cell Phones Making British Booths Obsolete

 

Thu Apr 22, 4:08 PM ET

 

By MICHAEL McDONOUGH, Associated Press Writer

 

 

 

LONDON - Britain's storied telephone booths N the classic red

 

version and its drab glass cousin N are fighting for their lives in

 

what looks like a losing battle with the cell phone.

 

 

 

Four out of five Britons now carry mobile phones and pay phones

 

don't make as much money as they once did. The company

 

responsible for them plans to remove 10,000 by the end of next

 

year.

 

 

 

That includes some of the country's 15,000 red booths, which

 

first appeared nearly 80 years ago and became a British icon.

 

 

 

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C39424A18

 

__________________________________

 

 

 

I want one! . . .

 

Has anyone a line on where these 15,000 boothes are going?

 

...Chris

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----- Original Message -----

 

From: Chris

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 3:35 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] OT?: British Booths Obsolete

 

 

 

 

 

Cell Phones Making British Booths Obsolete

 

Thu Apr 22, 4:08 PM ET

 

By MICHAEL McDONOUGH, Associated Press Writer

 

 

 

LONDON - Britain's storied telephone booths N the classic red

 

version and its drab glass cousin N are fighting for their lives in

 

what looks like a losing battle with the cell phone.

 

 

 

Four out of five Britons now carry mobile phones and pay phones

 

don't make as much money as they once did. The company

 

responsible for them plans to remove 10,000 by the end of next

 

year.

 

 

 

That includes some of the country's 15,000 red booths, which

 

first appeared nearly 80 years ago and became a British icon.

 

 

 

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C39424A18

 

__________________________________

 

 

 

I want one! . . .

 

Has anyone a line on where these 15,000 boothes are going?

 

..Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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These 'Telephone Boxes', as they are correctly called, are owned and operated by

 

BT, our national telephone company. I think you will find them at www.bt.com and

 

I'm sure there will be a link somewhere. This site also seems to sell red phone

 

boxes, http://www.britishbits.co.uk/

 

Regards Walter from Glasgow

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Chris

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 3:35 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] OT?: British Booths Obsolete

 

 

 

 

 

Cell Phones Making British Booths Obsolete

 

Thu Apr 22, 4:08 PM ET

 

By MICHAEL McDONOUGH, Associated Press Writer

 

 

 

LONDON - Britain's storied telephone booths N the classic red

 

version and its drab glass cousin N are fighting for their lives in

 

what looks like a losing battle with the cell phone.

 

 

 

Four out of five Britons now carry mobile phones and pay phones

 

don't make as much money as they once did. The company

 

responsible for them plans to remove 10,000 by the end of next

 

year.

 

 

 

That includes some of the country's 15,000 red booths, which

 

first appeared nearly 80 years ago and became a British icon.

 

 

 

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C39424A18

 

__________________________________

 

 

 

I want one! . . .

 

Has anyone a line on where these 15,000 boothes are going?

 

..Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you so much Walter, and here I thought it too far off topic.

 

Still a roadside attraction as we recently talked about facing the

 

same dilema here in America. Parts of our landscape are

 

disappearing too. I'm one of those funny people who don't own a

 

wireless and only realized what a rare beast I am when I recently

 

went looking for a public phone at a particular sporting venue. . .

 

"All gone" the man said, "they weren't doing the business, so

 

they pulled them out!" Imagine the funny looks I got for asking.

 

 

 

I'm a Dr Who fan too. I suppose the blue "Call-up" or Telephone

 

Boxes are even more rare than the red ones. . . often thought I

 

could live in one of those with the effects of "e-space" and all. . .

 

 

 

Thanks again for the links, cheers! . . Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "UKRoads"

 

<ukroads@b...> wrote:

 

> These 'Telephone Boxes', as they are correctly called, are

 

owned and operated by BT, our national telephone company. I

 

think you will find them at www.bt.com and I'm sure there will be

 

a link somewhere. This site also seems to sell red phone

 

boxes, http://www.britishbits.co.uk/

 

> Regards Walter from Glasgow

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: Chris

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 3:35 PM

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] OT?: British Booths Obsolete

 

>

 

>

 

> Cell Phones Making British Booths Obsolete

 

> Thu Apr 22, 4:08 PM ET

 

> By MICHAEL McDONOUGH, Associated Press Writer

 

>

 

> LONDON - Britain's storied telephone booths N the classic

 

red

 

> version and its drab glass cousin N are fighting for their lives

 

in

 

> what looks like a losing battle with the cell phone.

 

>

 

> Four out of five Britons now carry mobile phones and pay

 

phones

 

> don't make as much money as they once did. The company

 

> responsible for them plans to remove 10,000 by the end of

 

next

 

> year.

 

>

 

> That includes some of the country's 15,000 red booths, which

 

> first appeared nearly 80 years ago and became a British icon.

 

>

 

> http://makeashorterlink.com/?C39424A18

 

> __________________________________

 

>

 

> I want one! . . .

 

> Has anyone a line on where these 15,000 boothes are

 

going?

 

> ..Chris

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

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Only 1 month and 27 days until our great adventure to the Havasupai Indian

 

Reservation. Has anyone had a stay at the Grand Canyon Caverns Inn in

 

Peach Springs? Have considered staying there before taking the drive to

 

Hilltop and hiking into the Grand Canyon.

 

 

 

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Article forwarded from the Wasington Post

 

 

 

Twists And Twangs

 

 

 

By Marcus Roth

 

 

 

With arms aloft, hands trembling, Reverend Lane shuffled down the

 

aisle. "If you need a shot of the Holy Spirit, come on down here!" he

 

hollered at the congregation. A young man in a baseball cap handed him

 

a foam cup and quickly ducked away.

 

 

 

"Ahh, water. The source of all life," he said and took a sip. "No,

 

sir, ain't no water down there. Ain't nothing down there but dry

 

burning heat for all of eternity!" he roared, and the Lee Smith

 

Singers came back to the pulpit to close the service with "I'll Fly Away."

 

 

 

We didn't approach the altar. We'd come to the Log House Church in

 

Weber City, Va., in search of something other than the Holy Spirit; we

 

were looking for the spirited gospel music that begat old-time music

 

that begat bluegrass and country. My banjo-picking buddy John Moncure

 

and I were traveling in his modest RV along Virginia's Crooked Road, a

 

new tourist trail through southwest Virginia's Appalachian musical

 

heritage.

 

 

 

The region has long attracted roots music pilgrims, wandering the

 

small-town theaters and roadhouses in search of the birthplaces of

 

country and bluegrass. But last year the state formally organized the

 

experience into the Crooked Road, a 250-mile string of state highways

 

snaking through the mountains near North Carolina and Tennessee. The

 

valleys and "hollers" are filled with fine music, hearty country

 

cooking and scenery that has inspired a whole catalogue of songs.

 

 

 

Our own six-day journey began in the town of Floyd, about 40 miles

 

south of Roanoke. The Floyd Country Store has garnered a reputation

 

for outstanding bluegrass and old-time music. Locals gather with

 

tourists each Friday night for a public dance.

 

 

 

When we arrived, the dance floor was a blur of youngsters, oldsters

 

and everyone in between, flat-footing and toe-tapping to Ralph Hayden

 

and the Barbershop Grass. "Students from Virginia Tech and Radford

 

come out here to laugh at the local yokels, but they wind up dancing

 

with us," said Evona Jessup, a regular.

 

 

 

Saturday we went west, following the banjo-emblazoned signs for the

 

Crooked Road. We stopped long enough to pull a few trout out of

 

Whitetop Laurel Creek, a gushing mountain stream that tumbles down out

 

of the Mount Rogers National Recreation Area into Damascus. Then, a

 

few miles beyond town on the haunches of Clinch Mountain, we found the

 

Carter Family Fold, a large, unpainted structure that looked more like

 

a sawmill than a concert hall. But it is a music venue established by

 

Janette Carter, the younger daughter of A.P. and Sara Carter, "the

 

first family of country music." Janette still hosts weekly Saturday

 

night shows with her throaty voice and chiming autoharp.

 

 

 

Bill Lowe & Cripple Creek had the place jumping. Folks were kicking

 

up their heels to old-time dance tunes revved up with dizzying

 

bluegrass rhythm, punctuated by the clacking of metal dance taps.

 

 

 

Sunday morning we headed toward Bristol, a small city straddling the

 

Virginia-Tennessee line. Unpleasantly surprised to find the Birthplace

 

of Country Music Alliance in a mall, I was ultimately impressed by

 

this eclectic museum that tells the story of "Appalachian music as it

 

moved from the front porches into the recording and radio studios."

 

Among the items on display in the glass cases were a gourd "banjar"

 

(African ancestor of the five-string banjo), a functional fiddle made

 

of matchsticks, and a photo of Jimmie Rodgers signed, "To the Carter

 

Family, hope we have many more Pleasant Recordings together."

 

 

 

Outside we doubled back toward Duffield, one of several reversals we

 

made to catch as many performances as possible. We camped at Natural

 

Tunnel State Park, where Stock Creek has carved a 100-foot-high

 

passage through the mountain. The rock walls around the tunnel's mouth

 

form a natural band shell where bluegrass groups play in the summer.

 

 

 

Monday morning, the Crooked Road took us north into coal country.

 

Here the curvaceous green mountains are interrupted by flat yellow

 

patches where coal companies leveled mountaintops to harvest the black

 

rock. We stopped in front of a four-story Victorian in the old coal

 

town of Clintwood, a refurbished house that is now the Ralph Stanley

 

Museum & Traditional Mountain Music Center. We arrived just as Dr.

 

Ralph himself rolled up in his red 1989 Zimmer, a sleek, modernized

 

version of the 1930s Duesenberg.

 

 

 

The soft-spoken 78-year-old, who helped rekindle interest in

 

bluegrass with his haunting a cappella performance in "O Brother,

 

Where Art Thou?," was clearly thrilled with his home town's new

 

state-of-the art museum, which rang with Stanley Brothers music and

 

flashed with video footage from vintage shows and documentaries.

 

"There's not many people who ever live to see a museum that's built

 

after them," he said. "I'm hoping it will bring a lot of people and

 

help revive this area."

 

 

 

Afterward, we drove 20 minutes up into the hills to see the recently

 

renovated festival grounds where the Ralph Stanley Hills of Home

 

Bluegrass Festival takes place every Memorial Day weekend.

 

 

 

In Big Stone Gap, we stopped at the Heart of Appalachia Tourism

 

Authority, where Executive Director Geneva O'Quinn assured us a

 

companion CD and book would be available along the route by late

 

summer. And soon the agency will build roadside listening posts where

 

travelers can tune in to audio commentary on their radios. For now, a

 

downloadable map and a visitor guide are available (see box).

 

 

 

We made it back to Weber City in time for the weekly Tuesday night

 

jam sessions at the Lazy Time Pickin' Parlor. In the music shop's

 

crowded back room, a group of eight or nine musicians, mostly seniors,

 

sat in a circle playing old country standards. People were drinking

 

coffee as if it were beer. The atmosphere was inviting, and my friend

 

John soon added his banjo to the mix. When the band slid into a

 

rendition of "Walking the Floor Over You," an eightysomething lady

 

from a nearby senior center jumped out of her folding chair, dancing

 

and grinning .

 

 

 

Driving home the next morning, we decided to drop in unannounced on

 

musician and guitarmaker Wayne Henderson. He lives just off the

 

Crooked Road in Grayson County, where Christmas tree saplings speckle

 

the undulating hills in neat rows. Henderson is famous as a modern-day

 

Stradivarius of the steel-string guitar (he kept Eric Clapton waiting

 

seven years for his order) and for his sparkling old-time

 

fingerpicking. In his sawdust-covered workshop, filled with tools,

 

slabs of exotic wood and pieces of unfinished guitars and mandolins,

 

he said he hoped tourism would boost a county economy once sustained

 

by furniture and textile mills. "The Crooked Road will certainly bring

 

attention to our music and culture, which is probably this community's

 

best resource. And it would be real hard to move to China," he said.

 

 

 

Southwestern Virginia, left in the dust by economic progress, now

 

stands to gain from its link to the past. "It's not just a matter of

 

following the signs the Virginia tourism office puts up, said Randy

 

Sluss, a regular at the Pickin' Parlor. "The Crooked Road is

 

everywhere: It's every back road, every holler, every church, every

 

mountain and every front porch around here."

 

 

 

Escape Keys

 

 

 

GETTING THERE: The 250-mile-long Crooked Road officially begins at

 

the Blue Ridge Institute and Museum, on the campus of Ferrum College

 

in Ferrum, Va., about 280 miles south of Washington.

 

 

 

WHERE TO STAY: Oak Haven Lodge (323 Webb's Mills Rd., Floyd,

 

540-745-5716, http://www.oakhavenlodge.com/ ) is a new but rustic and

 

affordable lodge close to downtown Floyd. Double rooms are $65. The

 

Damascus Old Mill (215 Imboden St., Damascus, 276-475-3745,

 

http://www.damascusoldmill.com/ ) is a small inn next to the Holston

 

River. Rooms from $119 to $189. There are good campgrounds and plenty

 

of beauty at both Grayson Highlands State Park (829 Grayson Highland

 

Lane, near Mount Rogers National Recreation Area , 276-579-7092,

 

http://www.dcr.state.va.us/ ) and Natural Tunnel State Park (Route 3,

 

276-940-2674, http://www.naturaltunnel.info/ ) near Duffield.

 

 

 

WHERE TO EAT: Mama Lazardo's Pizza (205 S. Locust St., Floyd) has

 

good pizza and a variety of beer and wine. For country cooking, try

 

the County Line Cafe (956 E. Stuart Dr., Galax, 276-236-3201); lunch,

 

tax and tip runs $5 to $7.

 

 

 

MUSIC: The Birthplace of Country Music Alliance Museum (500 Gate City

 

Hwy., Bristol, Va., 276-645-0035,

 

http://www.birthplaceofcountrymusic.org/ ) is open Monday-Saturday 10

 

a.m. to 9 p.m., Sunday noon to 7. The Ralph Stanley Museum &

 

Traditional Mountain Music Center in Clintwood (Main Street,

 

276-926-5591, http://www.ralphstanleymuseum.com/ ) is open

 

Tuesday-Saturday 10 a.m. to 5 p.m., Sunday 1 to 5 p.m. Blue Ridge

 

Institute and Museum (540-365-4416, Monday-Saturday 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.,

 

Sunday 1 to 4 p.m. in summer, http://www.blueridgeinstitute.org/ ) at

 

Ferrum College has rotating exhibits on the music and culture of the

 

Blue Ridge. Friday nights at the Floyd Country Store (296 S. Locust

 

St., 540-745-4563, http://www.floydcountrystore.com/ ) feature gospel,

 

old-time and bluegrass bands. The Carter Family Fold (A.P. Carter

 

Highway; follow signs from Route 58 in Hiltons, 276-386-9480,

 

http://www.carterfamilyfold.org/ ) has live shows every Saturday night

 

starting at 7:30. The music shop Pickin' Parlor (Route 23, Weber City,

 

276-386-2654) fills with local musicians Tuesday evenings at 7.

 

 

 

FESTIVALS: Ralph Stanley hosts his 35th annual Hills of Home

 

Bluegrass Festival ( http://www.drralphstanley.com/ ) near Clintwood,

 

May 26-28. Guests this year include Gillian Welch, Jim Lauderdale,

 

Larry Sparks and Rhonda Vincent in addition to Dr. Stanley and the

 

Clinch Mountain Boys. Grayson Highlands State Park offers a mountain

 

setting for the Wayne C. Henderson Music Festival & Guitar

 

Competition ( http://www.waynehenderson.org/ ), on June 18. This

 

year's Old Fiddler's Convention in Galax (

 

http://www.oldfiddlersconvention.com/ ) is Aug. 8-13.

 

 

 

INFO: The Crooked Road , 866-686-6874, http://www.thecrookedroad.org/ .

 

 

 

 

 

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Route 66 Mother Road Museum in Barstow is making additions to

 

www.route66museum.org, the museum's website. Check out FREE DOWNLOADS.

 

Travelers to the Mojave Desert especially will want their own copy.

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I vote for none of the above. My reasons have been oft-stated in

 

these and other posts.

 

 

 

Fred, by your own admission, you haven't driven Route 66 in decades.

 

Why don't you actually drive the route before offering "solutions"

 

that may produce no results or be even harmful? Anyone who portrays

 

himself as a Route 66 crusader without having firsthand knowledge

 

about the current state of the road is severely straining his

 

credibility.

 

 

 

And if you want a perfect example of why recertification would be bad

 

because it would create a lot more traffic, look at what happened to

 

the old 281 Spur in western Oklahoma. This alignment of 66 with the

 

original Portland cement was often used by trucks as a shortcut.

 

Because of the extra traffic and subsequent safety concerns, the road

 

engineers tore up the road and resurfaced it -- removing the

 

character of it. Michael Taylor of the Route 66 Corridor Act

 

frequently uses this as an example of what is lost when Route 66

 

isn't adequately preserved.

 

 

 

Route 66 needs to be a scenic road, where big trucks are discouraged.

 

That's why the scenic byway designation is important.

 

 

 

Ron Warnick

 

Tulsa, OK

 

(near Southwest Boulevard, which is old Route 66)

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http://www.route66museum.org/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Hodkin" <kdhod@e...> wrote:

 

> Route 66 Mother Road Museum in Barstow is making additions to

 

www.route66museum.org, the museum's website. Check out FREE DOWNLOADS.

 

Travelers

 

to the Mojave Desert especially will want their own copy.

 

>

 

>

 

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Guest Bill Kruser

I vote for number 3 also.

 

 

 

Bill Kruser

 

 

 

 

 

> Message: 4

 

> Date: Tue, 22 Jun

 

2004 09:34:41 -0500

 

> From: "BringBackRoute66.com" <fredmcain@bringbackroute66.com>

 

> Subject: U.S. ROUTE DESIGNATION POLL

 

>

 

> Dear Group,

 

>

 

> I would like very much to conduct a poll of all e-group members

 

> concerning a

 

> new, official AASHTO U.S. Route designation for Old Route 66.

 

>

 

> Which one of the following proposals would you favor the most?

 

>

 

> 1) Re-designate the Old Road as a new, "Historic Bannered" U.S. Route by

 

> designating a new mainline parent U.S. Route on the freeway that would

 

> provide the support necessary for the paired bannered route. In other

 

> words, an arrangement similar to the paired toll road/scenic route

 

> U.S. 412

 

> in eastern Oklahoma.

 

>

 

> 2) A new Official U.S. 66 designation on the old road itself

 

> co-designating

 

> on the Interstates for short distances to bridge gaps where an older,

 

> historic alignment is simply no longer available. This scenario would

 

> assume no significant "improvements" would be mandated to the historic

 

> infrastructure.

 

>

 

> 3) A new, "Historic Bannered" U.S. Route designation on the old road

 

> that

 

> would simply have no mainline "parent". (Would require a modification of

 

> AASHTO guidelines.

 

>

 

> 4) A new, official U.S. Route designation not specified above. (Please

 

> share your idea with us.)

 

>

 

> There are nearly 200 members in our group. It would be so wonderful

 

> if we

 

> could here from all of you. I already know that a few of you are

 

> opposed to

 

> a new U.S. Route designation under any circumstance. Could those of you

 

> opposed to a new U.S. Route designation share with us as to whether or

 

> not

 

> you might change your mind *IF* certain criteria were to be met? What

 

> needs

 

> to be done to make this concept acceptable to more (if not all)

 

> supporters

 

> of the "Mother Road"?

 

>

 

> Fred M. Cain,

 

> U.S. Route 66 Re-commissioning Initiative

 

> http://www.bringbackroute66.com

 

>

 

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>

 

>

 

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Absolutely, positively, NONE of these. Your ideas will lead to the

 

ruination of the road Ron and Emily are dead on right.

 

 

 

I traveled the road in 1988,1990 and 1992 - I studied maps, got

 

"temporarily misplaced" a few times, stop and talked to the people who

 

live along 66,

 

explored, enjoyed, bumped along some old sections, enjoyed the Portland

 

Cement stretches, the old narrow bridges and did all this without

 

needing to see

 

an "official" shield - sure, some historic signs were missing, but

 

that's what makes exploring the old roads great. And I certainly

 

couldn't have enjoyed it speeding along on the new and improved signed

 

lanes, while an 18-wheeler tries to drive up my tailpipe.

 

 

 

Carol

 

 

 

 

 

BringBackRoute66.com wrote:

 

 

 

> Dear Group,

 

>

 

> I would like very much to conduct a poll of all e-group members

 

> concerning a

 

> new, official AASHTO U.S. Route designation for Old Route 66.

 

>

 

> Which one of the following proposals would you favor the most?

 

>

 

> 1) Re-designate the Old Road as a new, "Historic Bannered" U.S. Route by

 

> designating a new mainline parent U.S. Route on the freeway that would

 

> provide the support necessary for the paired bannered route. In other

 

> words, an arrangement similar to the paired toll road/scenic route

 

> U.S. 412

 

> in eastern Oklahoma.

 

>

 

> 2) A new Official U.S. 66 designation on the old road itself

 

> co-designating

 

> on the Interstates for short distances to bridge gaps where an older,

 

> historic alignment is simply no longer available. This scenario would

 

> assume no significant "improvements" would be mandated to the historic

 

> infrastructure.

 

>

 

> 3) A new, "Historic Bannered" U.S. Route designation on the old road

 

> that

 

> would simply have no mainline "parent". (Would require a modification of

 

> AASHTO guidelines.

 

>

 

> 4) A new, official U.S. Route designation not specified above. (Please

 

> share your idea with us.)

 

>

 

> There are nearly 200 members in our group. It would be so wonderful

 

> if we

 

> could here from all of you. I already know that a few of you are

 

> opposed to

 

> a new U.S. Route designation under any circumstance. Could those of you

 

> opposed to a new U.S. Route designation share with us as to whether or

 

> not

 

> you might change your mind *IF* certain criteria were to be met? What

 

> needs

 

> to be done to make this concept acceptable to more (if not all)

 

> supporters

 

> of the "Mother Road"?

 

>

 

> Fred M. Cain,

 

> U.S. Route 66 Re-commissioning Initiative

 

> http://www.bringbackroute66.com

 

> *****************************************************************************

 

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Guest pirateofwallst

Parents say i was born in a hospital, but i believe i was born in the

 

back of the vw micro bus.

 

 

 

Been to every state in the country except hawai, i guess i cant drive

 

there so i havent been. Been all over the world but this is the

 

american road board. I trade stocks to prove a living to my nomadic

 

existence, best part a internet cafe is never to far away and i can

 

work any where.

 

 

 

So right now im sweltering in NH east coast humidity, but be gearing

 

up from the road. I hear the highway calling....

 

 

 

So as i go from state to state i will report my adventures on the bi

 

ways and highways.

 

 

 

I also will update u all on my traveling stock picks....

 

Take a look im good, we all got to make extra cash to pay for these

 

gas prices.

 

 

 

Anyone rocking a hybrid car let me know?

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--- Hows ashville ? maybe time for me to go back there....

 

Been back and forth coast to coast 10 times last year, i am nutty for

 

the road....

 

 

 

 

 

In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Teri" <clanhanna@b...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Hello from NW of Nashville, TN! Can't believe I found a group that

 

> is as nutters about road trips as my husband and I are! Last 2

 

> springs we have done a major road trip.

 

>

 

> In '04 we went thru the SW USA (8000 miles)-- Arkansas High Point -

 

> Magazine Mt., "Heifer Project, International" HQ - AR, Dallas TX,

 

> Texas Hill Country, San Antonio TX, LBJ Ranch NHP, TX, west TX along

 

> hwy 90 (Langtry), Carlsbad Caverns NP, NM, El Paso TX, Juarez,

 

> Mexico, White Sands NP, NM, Valley Of Fire, NM, Petroglyphs NP, NM,

 

> Petrified Forest NP, AZ, Meteor Crater AZ, Sequoia NP, CA, Yosemite

 

> NP, CA, down the Sierra Nevada Mts, CA, Manzanar NHP, CA, Death

 

> Valley NP, CA, Las Vegas NV, Hoover Dam, Grand Canyon AZ, Monument

 

> Valley UT, "Four Corners" , Mesa Verde CO, Royal Gorge CO, Colorado

 

> Springs CO, thru the Rocky Mts (Leadville), Lawrence KS and back home.

 

>

 

> And on another trip to NC we drove the Blue Ridge Parkway from

 

> Asheville to Cherokee. With that trip, we have now driven the entire

 

> parkway.

 

>

 

> Just back a few weeks ago, we're back from a trip (6700 miles) thru

 

> the Dakotas and then back by "The Great River Road" (from the

 

> headwaters of the Mississippi River to the tip of Illinois).

 

>

 

> For the "Great Plains" portion of the trip, we departed from

 

> Clarksville, thru MO by way of Carthage (Laura Ingalls Wilder home,

 

> George Washington Carver NP and Marlon Perkins memorial) to

 

> Independence MO (Truman NHS) and up along western Iowa and on to

 

> Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Sioux Falls west across the state to the

 

> Black Hills (Badlands, Mt. Rushmore, Crazy Horse Monument). Quick jag

 

> into Wyoming to the Devil's Tower (I hate that name!) and back to SD

 

> heading up to North Dakota. Travel along west part past Roosevelt Nat

 

> Park and up to the Minot area, then we will drop down to Bismarck on

 

> our way east to head out of North Dakota at Grand Forks.

 

>

 

> Entering Minnesota we went to the headwaters of the Mississippi River

 

> and then came down the center of the state to hit another Laura

 

> Ingalls site - Walnut Grove. From St. Paul we followed "The Great

 

> River Road" along the MS river all the way back to KY. In MN we

 

> visited the small towns along the way and saw family. In Iowa, we

 

> visited "the field of dreams" site, Herbert Hoover NHS and the Amana

 

> Colonies. In MO we made a stop in Hannibal and Clarksville. We

 

> crossed the river north of St. Louis by ferry into Illinois and

 

> headed on home.

 

>

 

> We climbed the "high points" in Iowa, North Dakota and Illinois.

 

>

 

> Most of our trips are much shorter! We enjoy going out for a weekend

 

> or maybe a week.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Teri

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Guest Denny Gibson

US 62 didn't mean much to me couple of months ago. Then, in May, I drove a

 

stretch that crosses the OH-PA border and a stretch in KY about a month

 

later. Those were both very enjoyable drives and caused me to look into just

 

where this highway goes. Another business trip to Pennsylvania gets me

 

within striking distance of its eastern end so I'm heading for Niagara Falls

 

with plans to follow about a third of the route. Even though I've only

 

touched 62 briefly, I've been on my own time since noon yesterday so I'm

 

thinking the trip has started. Stuff leading US 62 is up at

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/rt62east with more to follow.

 

 

 

NEW WITH THIS TRIP:

 

 

 

When I'm on a drive involving more that one day, my goal is to make daily

 

posting of my travels. Sometimes that's impossible and sometimes it just

 

doesn't happen even though it is, technically, possible. Plus, when postings

 

do occur, it is rarely at a predictable time of day. One possibility of

 

dealing with that is to send off an email message when a new page gets

 

posted and I'm going to try doing just that. But I know that not everyone

 

receiving this would welcome another piece of email (I'm sure that some are

 

not exactly pleased to get this one.) so the message will only be sent to

 

those who have "opted in" to a mailing list.

 

 

 

There are actually two lists available. One is for those daily posting

 

announcements I spoke of. The other is for only messages like this

 

announcing a trip start or end. The lists are easy to join and just as easy

 

to leave. All that is required is an email address. Just go to

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/listmailer/?p=subscribe&id=1 and select whichever

 

list you prefer.

 

 

 

Let's see if this thing works.

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Took a most excellent daytrip to Bixby, Missouri with the motorcycle

 

club. Bixby is one of the gazillions of small towns in southeastern

 

Missouri that sprung up to support 1) mining or 2) the railroad.

 

 

 

Not even sure what the population is, but the major business that I

 

visit is the Bixby Country Store, which has delicious deli sandwiches,

 

which you can eat while sitting in a converted railroad caboose.

 

 

 

The ride, is, of course, the thing. Leaving from West St. Louis

 

County, we traveled SR 109 to CR W and then to SR 30. South on 30

 

until CR FF, through twisty, gorgeous farmland (cattle and horses

 

mostly), to SR 47, south to SR 21 and Potosi, a sizable town of about

 

3000 folks. From there, SR 8 to CR P to CR DD and SR 32. Here, the

 

road takes on banks in addition to twists, heading through former

 

mining country with iron ore and cool rocks on both sides of the road.

 

 

 

In Bixby, a lunch break at the afforementioned Country Store, then

 

retracing steps back to SR 8, but this time, heading west to

 

Steelville and SR 19, up through Cuba, Missouria and back home on I-44

 

/ Rt. 66.

 

 

 

All told, a 300 mile journey on two wheels through 90+ heat, but good

 

food, many stops and terrific Ozark foothills scenery.

 

 

 

X

 

 

 

Next week, Gasconade, Missouri, the location of the Gasconade River

 

Train Bridge disaster of 1855

 

(http://cprr.org/Museum/Gasconade_Disaster.html)

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Guest George Ashburn

I'm from the Columbus Area and a Season Ticket Holder with the Cleveland Browns,

 

so I know this area.

 

 

 

Holmes County is nice. The Restaurants on US 62 are always packed.

 

 

 

Have any football fans? Take them to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton.

 

It's about an hour south of Cleveland just off I-77.

 

 

 

The Rock 'N Roll Hall of Fame is in Cleveland. Right on the lake about a Block

 

East of Cleveland Browns Stadium. There is also a Science Museum between The

 

Rock Hall & Browns Stadium

 

 

 

Just west of Jacobs Field (where the Indians Play.) there is an Open Air

 

Farmer's Market open on the weekends that's nice.

 

 

 

Anymore questions: email me at jamdawg1@yahoo.com

 

 

 

George Ashburn http://www.geocities.com/jamdawg1/index.html

 

 

 

 

 

Annkur@aol.com wrote:

 

LeRoy said, "Take a ride on the double-decker bus"! Sure caught my attention

 

after what happened in London today.

 

 

 

My son is getting married in mid-October in Ohio (east of Cleveland). Can

 

anyone suggest a road trip? Can one drive east or west along the Great Lakes?

 

Any ideas?

 

 

 

Thank you,

 

 

 

Ann/CA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 7/11/05 7:13:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

 

pirateofwallst@yahoo.com writes:

 

I trade stocks to prove a living to my nomadic

 

existence, best part a internet cafe is never to far away and i can

 

work any where.

 

=====================================================================

 

Are you a day trader? I read a couple of books on that, but I quickly figured

 

out that I don't have the stomach nor the nerve to do it.

 

 

 

Or do you mean that you buy and sell stocks for clients?

 

 

 

I sell postcards on Ebay. I suppose I could do that while traveling, if I was

 

willing to take my inventory and mailing supplies with me.

 

 

 

Tom Hoffman

 

Pearisburg VA

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In a message dated 7/11/05 2:40:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

 

becky@mockturtlepress.com writes:

 

Port Huron also has the Palms

 

Krystal Bar and Restaurant still serving the famous "Chicken in the Rough!"

 

====================================================================

 

Please tell me what Chicken in the Rough is. There used to be a restaurant in

 

Front Royal VA that advertised it on a big neon sign.

 

 

 

Tom Hoffman

 

Pearisburg VA

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Guest beckyrepp

Hi.

 

 

 

I saw that John had questions re: things to see/do in Michigan.

 

 

 

If you have time, check out M-25 in Michigan--around the Michigan Thumb

 

area. Lots of great places--including the Powers Diner in Port Huron on the

 

cover of the Summer issue of American Road. Port Huron also has the Palms

 

Krystal Bar and Restaurant still serving the famous "Chicken in the Rough!"

 

Lexington is another great stop--be sure to visit the vintage General Store

 

downtown. You might want to check out the Summer 05 issue (the current

 

issue) of American Road as it has a feature article on M-25 around the

 

Thumb.

 

 

 

Safe Travels,

 

Becky Repp

 

becky@mockturtlepress.com

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I've been wanting to try the Palms Krystal for ages--when I was a

 

graphic artist for the phone company, I worked on their ad, and it

 

always made me hungry! :D Gotta love that chicken in the golf outfit...

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Just returned from a trip down in Asheville. It was very rainy most

 

of the day - at least twice a day! Got to do some river rafting at

 

the NOC so the trip was a wet one any way.

 

 

 

It was cool at night in those mountains. Very pleasant even with the

 

rain.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "pirateofwallst"

 

<pirateofwallst@y...> wrote:

 

> --- Hows ashville ? maybe time for me to go back there....

 

> Been back and forth coast to coast 10 times last year, i am nutty

 

for

 

> the road....

 

>

 

>

 

> In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Teri" <clanhanna@b...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Hello from NW of Nashville, TN! Can't believe I found a group

 

that

 

> > is as nutters about road trips as my husband and I are! Last 2

 

> > springs we have done a major road trip.

 

> >

 

> > In '04 we went thru the SW USA (8000 miles)-- Arkansas High

 

Point -

 

> > Magazine Mt., "Heifer Project, International" HQ - AR, Dallas TX,

 

> > Texas Hill Country, San Antonio TX, LBJ Ranch NHP, TX, west TX

 

along

 

> > hwy 90 (Langtry), Carlsbad Caverns NP, NM, El Paso TX, Juarez,

 

> > Mexico, White Sands NP, NM, Valley Of Fire, NM, Petroglyphs NP,

 

NM,

 

> > Petrified Forest NP, AZ, Meteor Crater AZ, Sequoia NP, CA,

 

Yosemite

 

> > NP, CA, down the Sierra Nevada Mts, CA, Manzanar NHP, CA, Death

 

> > Valley NP, CA, Las Vegas NV, Hoover Dam, Grand Canyon AZ,

 

Monument

 

> > Valley UT, "Four Corners" , Mesa Verde CO, Royal Gorge CO,

 

Colorado

 

> > Springs CO, thru the Rocky Mts (Leadville), Lawrence KS and back

 

home.

 

> >

 

> > And on another trip to NC we drove the Blue Ridge Parkway from

 

> > Asheville to Cherokee. With that trip, we have now driven the

 

entire

 

> > parkway.

 

> >

 

> > Just back a few weeks ago, we're back from a trip (6700 miles)

 

thru

 

> > the Dakotas and then back by "The Great River Road" (from the

 

> > headwaters of the Mississippi River to the tip of Illinois).

 

> >

 

> > For the "Great Plains" portion of the trip, we departed from

 

> > Clarksville, thru MO by way of Carthage (Laura Ingalls Wilder

 

home,

 

> > George Washington Carver NP and Marlon Perkins memorial) to

 

> > Independence MO (Truman NHS) and up along western Iowa and on to

 

> > Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Sioux Falls west across the state to

 

the

 

> > Black Hills (Badlands, Mt. Rushmore, Crazy Horse Monument). Quick

 

jag

 

> > into Wyoming to the Devil's Tower (I hate that name!) and back to

 

SD

 

> > heading up to North Dakota. Travel along west part past Roosevelt

 

Nat

 

> > Park and up to the Minot area, then we will drop down to Bismarck

 

on

 

> > our way east to head out of North Dakota at Grand Forks.

 

> >

 

> > Entering Minnesota we went to the headwaters of the Mississippi

 

River

 

> > and then came down the center of the state to hit another Laura

 

> > Ingalls site - Walnut Grove. From St. Paul we followed "The

 

Great

 

> > River Road" along the MS river all the way back to KY. In MN we

 

> > visited the small towns along the way and saw family. In Iowa, we

 

> > visited "the field of dreams" site, Herbert Hoover NHS and the

 

Amana

 

> > Colonies. In MO we made a stop in Hannibal and Clarksville. We

 

> > crossed the river north of St. Louis by ferry into Illinois and

 

> > headed on home.

 

> >

 

> > We climbed the "high points" in Iowa, North Dakota and Illinois.

 

> >

 

> > Most of our trips are much shorter! We enjoy going out for a

 

weekend

 

> > or maybe a week.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Teri

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Guest Mike Gassmann

Has anyone heard that "Talk of the Nation" on National Public Radio will be

 

talking about

 

unusual architecture and roadside attractions this coming Monday, July 27...? A

 

friend

 

emailed me saying the program was requesting road trip photos.

 

 

 

I just looked at the NPR web site:

 

http://www.npr.org/programs/totn/

 

...not a whole lot of info, but i did find that the show runs 1 to 3 here in the

 

St. Louis area.

 

 

 

Mike

 

www.catsupbottle.com

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