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Marietta is beautiful and I know exactley the railroad bridge your talking

 

about.... we walked across it once when we were in town visiting. I live

 

along the river also in Pomeroy Ohio...

 

Jandara

 

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I went to Marietta College and can say that the entire city is

 

wonderful. It's a beautiful area, with a wonderful old downtown and

 

many quaint old shops. I walk across the Muskingum River on the old

 

railroad bridge is a must. A visit to the Mound Cemetery (I won't

 

tell you how many times I was there around midnight!) is a must.

 

I've heard good things about the Maritime Museum, but I don't think

 

I ever went. Depending on when you are going, there is a Sternwheel

 

Festival every year in early September, I believe, that is quite

 

interesting and entertaining for the entire family.

 

 

 

As for campgrounds in the area, Wolf Run State Park is 28 miles

 

north of Marietta, near Caldwell, just off of I-77. I thought that

 

there was a campground just north of Marietta along the Muskingum

 

River, but I couldn't find it in a quick internet search. You might

 

wish to contact the Chamber of Commerce, though, and ask them.

 

 

 

While searching for that campground along the Muskingum, I did find

 

this link, which I find pretty interesting:

 

http://mathtutorchicago.com/ohioriverexpedition/?p=13

 

 

 

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> not miss. We will be starting from East Liverpool and ending at St

 

> Louis. Any feedback will be appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I have to warn you ..the movie is a bit odd... there's this old story/legend in

 

this area about a "mothman" who used to be in the PointPleasant WV area... they

 

even have a huge mothman statue in the middle of the town square.... that's what

 

the movie is supposed to be based on. To me the best part of the movie was

 

the recreating of the bridge falling at the end of the movie.

 

Jandara

 

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I haven't heard of this movie but will be looking for a copy. Being

 

an old guy, most or all of the river bridges I crossed as a kid were

 

scary. They were all narrow steel thru-truss bridges. Examples of

 

these monsters (some originals are still in use) include:

 

 

 

Beardstown, IL

 

Florence, IL

 

Hardin, IL

 

Hannibal, MO

 

Louisiana, MO

 

Chain of Rocks & McKinley, St. Louis

 

Alton, IL

 

Ohio & Mississippi Rivers, Cairo, IL

 

Brookport, IL

 

Cape Girardeau, MO

 

Savannah, TN

 

Nebraska City, NE

 

 

 

Yikes!....Bliss

 

 

 

 

 

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> I live near Gallipolis Ohio..where this bridge fell.... I was

 

just about a year old when it happened so I don't "remember" it...

 

but I sure have heard alot about it thru the years.... people still

 

talk about it a lot. The falling of the bridge was recreated for

 

the movie "The Mothman Prophecies" also... did you see the movie?

 

> Jandara

 

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> In a message dated 8/9/05 10:07:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

 

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> Now that is a bridge I am glad I never was on!

 

>

 

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> Or the Silver Bridge over the Ohio that collapsed in December,

 

1967. The

 

> bridge was not built for heavy trucks, and there was a light at

 

one end that

 

> backed traffic up onto the bridge. Well, that night there was

 

one truck too many

 

> and the bridge fell. They never did find all the bodies.

 

>

 

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used to write

 

> my dad letters on graph paper. He might have been an engineer,

 

but more than

 

> likely was just a draftsman.

 

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Yes it sure was.. it connected Point Pleasant West Virginia and Gallipolis

 

Ohio....

 

Jandara

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Jandara,

 

 

 

Would this bridge that fell in happen to be just to the south or west of Hwy

 

35. near Henderson/Point Pleasant.

 

 

 

I use to run this route alot while hauling loads from Wi. to Eden NC. &

 

noticed that there were bridge peirs/pilings still sticking out of the water.

 

 

 

Ken, Whitewater Wi.

 

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I live near Gallipolis Ohio..where this bridge fell.... I was just about a

 

year old when it happened so I don't "remember" it... but I sure have heard alot

 

about it thru the years.... people still talk about it a lot. The falling of

 

the bridge was recreated for the movie "The Mothman Prophecies" also... did you

 

see the movie?

 

Jandara

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You've got that right! Many in the area swear that it's true though.

 

Jandara :)

 

 

 

No, but I read about the Mothman and his alleged connection to the bridge on

 

line. It was weird as hell.

 

 

 

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In a message dated 8/10/05 8:45:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

 

denny@dennygibson.com writes:

 

Maysville, on the KY side, is

 

where the area's first "road", Zane's Trace, ended

 

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Would that be what is now US 68?

 

 

 

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Hey, Scott, I knew there was something about you I liked; Must be that

 

Buckeye background;-) I expect great CA pointers from you but now you're

 

turning me on to stuff in my home state. I've never been to Mound Cemetery

 

but have put it on my list.

 

 

 

I assume that the Maritime Museum you mention is the Ohio River Museum. I've

 

been there and recommend it but, according to their website (

 

http://www.ohiohistory.org/places/ohriver/ ), it's only open on weekends. Of

 

course, Marietta is a most interesting and historic town all the time. There

 

are lots of other neat towns along the river. Maysville, on the KY side, is

 

where the area's first "road", Zane's Trace, ended and the town has plenty

 

of more recent history, too. A bit west of Maysville is Ripley, OH, which

 

once had a bunch of tobacco warehouses and auctions. They still have a

 

Tobacco Festival but they're down to one or two auctions. Madison, IN, has

 

been mentioned in other threads in this group. It's between Cincinnati and

 

Louisville and both of those cities have their own attractions. There is a

 

huge fossil bed at the river's edge near Louisville.

 

 

 

Mike, I've driven along the river quite a bit in Ohio and Indiana but

 

haven't thought of driving it end to end. Now that you've mentioned it, it

 

seems like a fairly natural idea. That's going on the list, too. Keep us

 

informed on your adventure.

 

 

 

Denny Gibson

 

Cincinnati, OH

 

www.DennyGibson.com

 

 

 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: Scott Piotrowski [mailto:rt66prods@yahoo.com]

 

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> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Ohio River

 

>

 

>

 

> I went to Marietta College and can say that the entire city is

 

> wonderful. It's a beautiful area, with a wonderful old downtown and

 

> many quaint old shops. I walk across the Muskingum River on the old

 

> railroad bridge is a must. A visit to the Mound Cemetery (I won't

 

> tell you how many times I was there around midnight!) is a must.

 

> I've heard good things about the Maritime Museum, but I don't think

 

> I ever went. Depending on when you are going, there is a Sternwheel

 

> Festival every year in early September, I believe, that is quite

 

> interesting and entertaining for the entire family.

 

>

 

> As for campgrounds in the area, Wolf Run State Park is 28 miles

 

> north of Marietta, near Caldwell, just off of I-77. I thought that

 

> there was a campground just north of Marietta along the Muskingum

 

> River, but I couldn't find it in a quick internet search. You might

 

> wish to contact the Chamber of Commerce, though, and ask them.

 

>

 

> While searching for that campground along the Muskingum, I did find

 

> this link, which I find pretty interesting:

 

> http://mathtutorchicago.com/ohioriverexpedition/?p=13

 

>

 

> Scott Piotrowski

 

> Director, 66 Productions

 

> Moderator, Historic Roads Preservation

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Popovich"

 

> <huronscoot@y...> wrote:

 

> > Hi all.

 

> > I am new to the group. My family and I are going to be doing

 

> the

 

> > Ohio River Scenic Byway trip and was wondering if anyone knew of

 

> good

 

> > campgrounds (tenting) or any attractions along the way that we

 

> should

 

> > not miss. We will be starting from East Liverpool and ending at St

 

> > Louis. Any feedback will be appreciated.

 

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Hey thanks Jandara!

 

 

 

I always wondered what happened at that site! When the Mothman Prophecies

 

came out, The cities named turned a light on upstairs (so to say) & this bridge

 

site came to mind. It had me wondering if this was indeed the site.

 

I always had a strange feeling about this bridge site when ever I looked at it

 

as I had passed by.

 

I never could figure out why, Until now!

 

Thanks for your enlightenment about this!

 

 

 

When I was in a hurry, I use to stop by the McDonalds at Henderson Wv. on 35 to

 

get something to eat for on the go!

 

 

 

Boy!............What a small world this is!

 

 

 

Ken,Whitewater Wi.

 

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Yes it sure was.. it connected Point Pleasant West Virginia and Gallipolis

 

Ohio....

 

Jandara

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Have to add a few extras:

 

--Municipal and MLK Bridges, St. Louis

 

--Chester, IL (SR 51)

 

--Cape Girardeau (gone--but it went down in a blaze of glory; the span fell

 

in the river in such a way as to block barge traffic for days!)

 

--Cairo, IL (Mississippi and Ohio Rivers; there is a park between the two

 

(Ft. Defiance State Pk) where you can see both and can see where the

 

Mississippi and Ohio Rivers meet at the tip of IL--if you thought the

 

Mississippi River was dirty, you should see the Ohio!)

 

--Memphis (I-55 Bridge)

 

--Helena, AR (US 49)

 

--So of Greenville MS (US 278)

 

On the Missouri River (MO):

 

--Washington, MO(SR 47)

 

--Hermann, MO (SR 19)

 

--Jefferson City, MO (US 54/63)

 

--Booneville, MO (SR 5)

 

That is what I can recall...just hold your breath and enjoy the ride

 

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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:52 AM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Those old metal bridges!

 

 

 

 

 

> I haven't heard of this movie but will be looking for a copy. Being

 

> an old guy, most or all of the river bridges I crossed as a kid were

 

> scary. They were all narrow steel thru-truss bridges. Examples of

 

> these monsters (some originals are still in use) include:

 

>

 

> Beardstown, IL

 

> Florence, IL

 

> Hardin, IL

 

> Hannibal, MO

 

> Louisiana, MO

 

> Chain of Rocks & McKinley, St. Louis

 

> Alton, IL

 

> Ohio & Mississippi Rivers, Cairo, IL

 

> Brookport, IL

 

> Cape Girardeau, MO

 

> Savannah, TN

 

> Nebraska City, NE

 

>

 

> Yikes!....Bliss

 

>

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "JanNitz" <jandara@d...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > I live near Gallipolis Ohio..where this bridge fell.... I was

 

> just about a year old when it happened so I don't "remember" it...

 

> but I sure have heard alot about it thru the years.... people still

 

> talk about it a lot. The falling of the bridge was recreated for

 

> the movie "The Mothman Prophecies" also... did you see the movie?

 

> > Jandara

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > In a message dated 8/9/05 10:07:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

 

> > homiechris2000@y... writes:

 

> > Now that is a bridge I am glad I never was on!

 

> >

 

> ====================================================================

 

> > Or the Silver Bridge over the Ohio that collapsed in December,

 

> 1967. The

 

> > bridge was not built for heavy trucks, and there was a light at

 

> one end that

 

> > backed traffic up onto the bridge. Well, that night there was

 

> one truck too many

 

> > and the bridge fell. They never did find all the bodies.

 

> >

 

> > My grandfather worked for the firm that designed the bridge. He

 

> used to write

 

> > my dad letters on graph paper. He might have been an engineer,

 

> but more than

 

> > likely was just a draftsman.

 

> >

 

> > Tom Hoffman

 

> > Pearisburg VA

 

> >

 

> >

 

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> I live near Gallipolis Ohio..where this bridge fell.... I was just about

 

a year old when it happened so I don't "remember" it... but I sure have

 

heard alot about it thru the years.... people still talk about it a lot.

 

The falling of the bridge was recreated for the movie "The Mothman

 

Prophecies" also... did you see the movie?

 

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> Now that is a bridge I am glad I never was on!

 

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> Or the Silver Bridge over the Ohio that collapsed in December, 1967. The

 

> bridge was not built for heavy trucks, and there was a light at one end

 

that

 

> backed traffic up onto the bridge. Well, that night there was one truck

 

too many

 

> and the bridge fell. They never did find all the bodies.

 

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> My grandfather worked for the firm that designed the bridge. He used to

 

write

 

> my dad letters on graph paper. He might have been an engineer, but more

 

than

 

> likely was just a draftsman.

 

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Hi Mike,

 

Matt is right about Madison. I've been there a few times myself. It

 

is beautiful and full of history. Lots of old shops to see. They have

 

an old part and new part. We always went to the old (historical)

 

part.They have camping sites right on the river, but we haven't

 

camped in any so I couldn't tell you about them.. Cliffty Falls State

 

park is just one mile west of town on State Road 56 and 62.They have

 

a hotel and camping. Neat trails and waterfalls to do and see!

 

Gambling casino right up the river from Madison, Belterra Casino

 

Resort in Vevay. There is another one in Rising Sun. The Memphis

 

Queen Riverboat ( I think that is the name of it) has a river cruise

 

& goes to several towns on the river from state to state and Madison

 

is one of their stops. If you go here you absolutely must eat at Key

 

West Shrimp House 117 Ferry Street.

 

It's the best! I could go on and on but for more info here's a few

 

websites to visit. Worth checking out.

 

Happy Trails! Janet

 

http://www.visitmadison.org/attract.html

 

http://www.visitmadison.org/

 

http://www.oldmadison.com/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> Wow, Mike.....that sounds like a great trip along the Ohio.

 

> How many miles would you think that is? Gotta be at least

 

> 550 miles from Liverpool to St. Louis along the rivers. I

 

> have heard that Madison, IN has a beautiful historic

 

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> Jeffersonville, IN does, too....been to Jeffersonville a

 

> couple of years ago. The Historic Landmarks Foundation

 

> office in Jeffersonville was trying to sell their building

 

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> take a tour of the West Baden Springs Resort. Only seen

 

> photos myself...but I want to do it soon. And I'm going to

 

> Illinois next month....I'm gonna do it.

 

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I crossed the Mississippi River today on the US 60 and was freaking out the

 

whole time. Normally I like old bridges, but for some reason I was shaking.

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As I recall, the real problem with the Silver Bridge was the steel, not the

 

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A gallery I just put together with a group of my photos taken a couple weeks

 

ago. A 1956 Chrysler Imperial and a 1956 Desoto. Side by side it struck me

 

curious, how much they are the same. In fact many body panels, parts and

 

pieces are the same. Building one car across different platforms of the same

 

corporation, is nothing new. "Yeah it's got a Hemi!"

 

 

 

http://homepage.mac.com/eyerobic/56ChryDes/

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That's not a Chrysler - it's an Imperial. Beginning

 

in 1954 Imperial became a seperate division of

 

Chrylser.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

Hemi Mopars RULE!!!

 

--- chris <chris@experiencenascar.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> A gallery I just put together with a group of my

 

> photos taken a couple weeks

 

> ago. A 1956 Chrysler Imperial and a 1956 Desoto.

 

> Side by side it struck me

 

> curious, how much they are the same. In fact many

 

> body panels, parts and

 

> pieces are the same. Building one car across

 

> different platforms of the same

 

> corporation, is nothing new. "Yeah it's got a Hemi!"

 

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Thanks Alex! All well before my time.

 

I've got the hampsters up and running to correct that mistake. . .

 

Lets see who else in the other groups I sent that to catches it.

 

Do you know any good online resources for timelines or "family

 

trees" to auto makes? Chrysler gets me lost, and the whole

 

Nash Hudson thing has me intrigued.

 

 

 

Chris, NJ Exit 7-A

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> Hudsonly,

 

> Alex B

 

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> --- chris <chris@e...> wrote:

 

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> > A gallery I just put together with a group of my

 

> > photos taken a couple weeks

 

> > ago. A 1956 Chrysler Imperial and a 1956 Desoto.

 

> > Side by side it struck me

 

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And away we go! It's again time to play, "Where's Brian?"

 

 

 

Brian McKay's email below, from a library, somewhere in Bakersfield, seems to

 

indicate that he is following historic Highway 99, through the fields of

 

California, as he continues his journey of tribute to the Great Depression and

 

it's victims.

 

 

 

During Brian's Route 66 trip, I posted all Brian 'sightings' on the Route 66

 

and American Road yahoo group sites, I'll add the Highway 99 yahoo group, as

 

that seems to be the highway that he's chosen, as he heads home to Victoria,

 

BC. At least, so far! Knowing Brian's penchant for traveling historic roads,

 

we wouldn't be surprised if he heads over to the coast and Highway 1, just to

 

keep us guessing.

 

 

 

For those who did not follow Brian's historic 49 day trip on Route 66, you

 

can read about it at: http://www.nashcarclub.org/b_mckay.html

 

 

 

Brian is also featured on Page 45 of the Fall 2004 issue of Route 66

 

Magazine.

 

 

 

I've provided a couple of stories below too.

 

 

 

Please send me any Brian sightings and I'll share them with his friends.

 

 

 

Helen A. Baker

 

Secretary

 

California Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

5004 Enfield Avenue

 

Encino, California 91316

 

818-705-3930

 

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www.cart66pf.org

 

 

 

###

 

 

 

Date: 9/22/2004 4:51:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time

 

From: brians1930nash@yahoo.ca

 

To: Bakerhab@aol.com

 

 

 

Helen,

 

Thanks for your kind words. I only have 15 min here

 

at the library in Bakersfield. Your Family??

 

Will write when I have more time. I'm heading up the

 

centre of the SWV area. (American translation: center of San Joaquin Valley)

 

Brian.............

 

 

 

###

 

 

 

September 20, 2004

 

 

 

1930 Nash Heads North to Canada

 

 

 

Brian McKay and his Dust Bowl Refugee are heading home to Victoria, BC after

 

a long and successful sojourn in the US.

 

 

 

While here, Brian and the old girl, traveled the full length of Route 66,

 

from Chicago to Santa Monica, making the historic trip in a whizzing 49 days.

 

 

 

Brian ended his stay in the US with a tour de force showing at the San

 

Bernardino Route 66 Rendezvous last weekend. Brian and his 1930 Nash were the

 

undisputed hit of the rendezvous. He was assisted by his sister Louise, the

 

Lady

 

in Red, at the most popular exhibit in the Cruisin' Hall Of Fame history.

 

Everyone wanted to meet Brian and hear about his historic trip.

 

 

 

One of the reasons why Brian's 1930 Nash was so popular, was because, unlike

 

the shiny cars that were roped off, it was okay, in fact, you were encouraged,

 

to touch the Nash. Children especially found the car and the story of his

 

trip enjoyable, and their parents didn't have to keep saying, "Don't Touch!"

 

 

 

I had a chance to talk to Brian about his summer on Route 66 and he said

 

something very interesting. He said that when he started out, his trip was

 

about

 

the road, but shortly into it, he realized that it was really about the

 

people. Brian has said from the beginning that he did not plan to write a book

 

about his journey, but I hope he will reconsider during the long Canadian

 

winter.

 

 

 

 

 

Brian expects that his trip home to BC will take about 29 days and he's

 

keeping his route a secret. Maybe 395, I asked, and he gave me a little smile.

 

Whichever way he goes, he will surely be welcomed. Brian is a gentleman and an

 

absolute joy to know.

 

 

 

On behalf of the California Route 66 Preservation Foundation, the San

 

Bernardino Convention & Visitors Bureau, San Bernardino Rendezvous Committee and

 

the

 

Cruisin' Hall Of Fame, have a safe trip home Brian and thanks for the

 

memories.

 

 

 

###

 

>

 

> Published: July 21, 2004

 

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> Riding the Mother Roadaˆ¦One More Time

 

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>

 

>

 

> Kathleen Herd Masser

 

> Mirror contributing writer

 

>

 

> In The Grapes of Wrath, author John Steinbeck christened Route 66 the

 

> Mother Road, a path of hopes and dreams to those whose lives were thrown into

 

> disarray by the Great Depression. Brian McKay calls it aˆ?a series of events

 

that

 

> occur between a town, the people and the traveler.aˆ?

 

> McKay is the traveler. On Sunday, July 11, he pulled his 1930 Nash 450

 

> sedan onto the Santa Monica Pier, the final stop in a 49-day trek that

 

> reenacted the pilgrimage undertaken by hundreds of thousands of families

 

hoping to

 

> escape the bonds of poverty.

 

> The journey, he says, was a tribute to the Great Depression and its

 

> victims, adding, aˆ?I was interested in the role of the car in the Depression.

 

I

 

> have a 1930 Nash roadster that Iaˆ™ve had since I was a teenager. I bought

 

this as

 

> a parts car. Itaˆ™s from Saskatchewan, the Canadian equivalent of Oklahoma.aˆ?

 

> A retired building contractor, McKay was born in Alberta and lives on

 

> Vancouver Island in British Columbia.

 

> Instead of restoring the car to showroom condition, McKay went for aˆ“ and

 

> achieved aˆ“ a vintage Dust Bowl appearance. The hot rod became the parts car.

 

> Using a Dorothea Lange photo as his guide, he combed flea markets and antique

 

> sales to find essential accessories: a thin mattress, a cast iron skillet, a

 

> banjo, a gas lantern, and a faded red wagon to represent the single toy that

 

> parents permitted their children to bring along.

 

> McKay shipped the Nash to Chicago and hopped a train (unlike many

 

> Depression-era travelers, he paid for his ticket). Reunited with his car, on

 

May

 

> 25th he set out.

 

> Life on the road was not much easier for McKay than it was for migrants

 

> in the aˆ?30s. He shunned fast food joints and carried no cell phone. His one

 

> concession to technology was a tape recorder that he used it to chronicle his

 

> adventure and listen to music, mostly tunes by Woody Guthrie and Jimmy

 

> Rodgers.

 

> At night, he camped on the ground beneath a canvas tarp secured to the

 

> roof of the car. If it rained, he slept in the cramped front seat. On a few

 

> nights, he allowed himself a bed in a modest motel. The moms and pops of Route

 

66

 

> aˆ™s fabled roadside diners treated him to an occasional meal. When the

 

> rooftop mattress got wet, he refused to cover it in plastic, because that

 

wasnaˆ™t an

 

> option in 1937.

 

> McKay kept in touch with friends, fans and his wife, Marie, using pay

 

> phones and occasional e-mails sent from libraries along the way. The Nash Car

 

> Club of America added a aˆ?Whereaˆ™s Brian?aˆ? link to its website, on which

 

members

 

> posted sightings.

 

> In a message sent from Tucumcari, McKay wrote, aˆ?I had left Amarillo late

 

> in the day and was heading west. I stopped to watch a storm building. It was

 

> soon evident to be a large one indeed. It covered 180 degrees of the sky and

 

> winds were up to 80 mph. The wind forced me to seek a safer location. I moved

 

> about a block away next to a hospital and put her rear to the storm as a

 

> horse in a field would do.

 

> aˆ?As things worsened, I realized the storm was not moving on but was rotat

 

> ing overhead in a counter-clockwise rotation. Humidity was up and my

 

> imagination said this thing was about to spawn a tornado. The rain started

 

then

 

> heavily, the sirens started to go off and hail was beginning to fall. I

 

grabbed my

 

> box from on top of the roof and sat in the front seat. I grabbed two

 

> blankets and put them over my head. Hail went from pea size to marble size and

 

the

 

> noise was deafening . . . Poor old girl, getting hit like that. Then a series

 

> of tremendous impacts. I looked out and saw hail the size of a tennis ball .

 

> . . striking us . . . . This carried on for what seemed like an eternity . .

 

> . and soon everything was in water several inches deep or more. That ditch I

 

> was going to lay in if a funnel had formed was now two feet in water.aˆ?

 

> The windows held, but both headlamps were destroyed and there were

 

> fist-sized dents in the Nashaˆ™s well-rusted body.

 

> The desert sun was no more hospitable than the hailstorm. The wheels on

 

> the car have wooden rims and spokes, and high temperatures caused the wood to

 

> shrink. To tighten them up again, McKay aˆ“ with a hand from volunteers aˆ“

 

> pushed the car down a boat ramp into the Colorado River to soak the wheels.

 

> Route 66 meanders 2,448 miles from downtown Chicago, Illinois, through

 

> Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and into California.

 

> McKay met aˆ?a lot of special peopleaˆ? on the road. There was the

 

> 91-year-old rancher in Tucumcari, a aˆ?bony old weathered characteraˆ? who is

 

possibly a

 

> descendant of Juan Francisco de Bodega E. Quadra, who discovered Vancouver

 

> Island . . . the musician in Pitfield, Illinois, who tuned McKayaˆ™s banjo,

 

then

 

> used it to perform with her bluegrass band . . . three squad carsaˆ™ worth of

 

> policemen who came at him with guns drawn when he inadvertently pulled into a

 

> driveway on the grounds of an Illinois nuclear power plant.

 

> In all, McKay aˆ?logged just under 4,500 miles,aˆ? nearly double the span

 

of

 

> Route 66, as he indulged in detours that included Woody Guthrieaˆ™s Oklahoma

 

> home, Mark Twainaˆ™s Hannibal, Missouri, birthplace, and a ramble through the

 

> Ozarks.

 

> Many Dust Bowl migrants never reached California; they simply settled

 

> wherever their cars broke down. For a few hours on Sunday, it appeared McKay

 

> would succumb to the same fate.

 

> aˆ?It was 9:30 in the morning,aˆ? McKay recalls. aˆ?The car wouldnaˆ™t run.

 

She

 

> wasnaˆ™t going anywhere. After 2,400 miles, on the last day, not to be able to

 

> complete the trip . . .aˆ? He pauses, then continues, aˆ?She ran so well all

 

> the way from Chicago. It would be just unacceptable not to make it.aˆ?

 

> Helen Baker confirms McKayaˆ™s anxiety. Baker is secretary of the

 

> California Route 66 Preservation Foundation and rode in the Nash caravan that

 

escorted

 

> McKay to the Pier from Rancho Cucamonga.

 

> aˆ?We offered him lunch,aˆ? she says, aˆ?but he wouldnaˆ™t eat. He said

 

heaˆ™d

 

> lost his appetite.aˆ?

 

> With some unorthodox help from Lloyd Hardy, the owner of a 1954 Nash

 

> Metro, the problem (the carburetor float) was fixed. And in Dust Bowl era

 

> tradition, McKay and his new companions shared a picnic lunch on the side of

 

the

 

> road.

 

> McKayaˆ™s emotions were close to the surface as he rolled down the ramped

 

> drive of the Pier. There was obvious gratification at having completed his

 

> journey, but there was also the reality aˆ“ after weeks of challenging yet

 

> peaceful solitude aˆ“ of running smack into the 21st century.

 

> Though the Nash easily reaches 35 miles per hour, McKay says, aˆ?I donaˆ™t

 

> think I got above 23 coming through Los Angeles. The worst traffic, hands

 

> down, was in Santa Monica.aˆ?

 

> Just after sundown, McKay and his Nash headed south, to his sisteraˆ™s home

 

> in Seal Beach. Heaˆ™ll take the train home and leave the car behind, but hopes

 

> to return in September to take part in the Route 66 Rendezvous in San

 

> Bernadino.

 

> McKay displays a rare understanding of the hardships of the Dust Bowl age

 

> and a fierce appreciation for the spirit of the migrants. aˆ?It was,aˆ? he

 

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Get a copy of the National Register nomination; it should contain

 

useful information. Also, welcome arches seem to have received a lot

 

of press in local newspapers. The Blytheville library will have

 

archived copies of their newspaper. Since it sits on highway ROW, the

 

corresponding DOT should have documentation of its construction; it

 

probably also appears on plan and profile sheets for US 61 highway

 

improvement projects. Good luck. Let us know what you find.

 

 

 

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> I am looking for information on our favorite Arch at the Mo/Ark

 

border...I

 

> have been in touch with the Arkansas Highway Dept and have gotten

 

> information on when it was placed on the National Register...if you

 

have any

 

> information or stories about the Arch, please let me know...I was

 

there a

 

> couple of weekends ago, and the cracks don't look like they have

 

gotten any

 

> bigger, and the guy I talked to at the Highway Dept said there are

 

no plans

 

> to remove it at this time (there was some though about removing it

 

because

 

> of its low height, requiring Trucks to go around it).Tsingtao, Kip

 

>

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Guest brownwho63

That's great news. Add our congrats as well. Attagirl,

 

Shellee....Bliss

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Ross" <pathfinder66@e...>

 

wrote:

 

>

 

> Greetings All,

 

>

 

> I was just informed that Shellee Graham's documentary film, "Built

 

For Speed: The Coral Court Motel," about St. Louis's legendary Route

 

66 icon, has won the "Aurora," a national award. To learn more about

 

the Aurora Award, go to: www.auroraawards.com and click on "Current

 

News" at the bottom of the page.

 

>

 

> That's all I know at the moment. Just wanted to say

 

congratulations, Shellee!

 

>

 

> Jim R.

 

>

 

>

 

>

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Guest Russell S. Rein

Brian Butko's new book, Roadside Giants, is out.

 

Co-authored by Brian's wife Sarah, and road-tested

 

by his kids, it is a wonderful look at giant roadside

 

favorites such as the Muffler Men, Beford PA's Giant

 

Coffeepot restaurant, Knoxville's Air Plane Gas

 

Station, giant TeePees, donuts, covered wagons, you

 

get the idea. It is filled with great color photos, history

 

and touring info. Just published by Stackpole Books,

 

ISBN 978-0-8117-3228-4, Keywords - Travel /

 

Popular Culture.

 

"Filled with the best examples of a fast-disappearing

 

architectural style, rhis book is a welcome addition to

 

every car culture enthusiast's library. A must for lovers

 

of American Popular Culture and the built environment."

 

--Jim Helmann, Author of California Crazy & Beyond:

 

Roadside Vernacular Architecture.

 

"A joyous romp through America, celebrating many of

 

the great roadside icons of the twentieth century."

 

--John Margolies, Author of Fun Along the Road

 

 

 

Has everyone seen the great new 37 cent stamps

 

featuring sports card of the 1950s? Very cool -

 

featuring the T-Bird, Corvette, Kaiser Darin, Nash

 

Healey and the Studebaker Starline.

 

 

 

yer pal,

 

 

 

ypsi-slim

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Guest Denny Gibson

Have a safe trip & a Merry Christmas. I've been in Eau Claire once but don't

 

recall WOOS (didn't see attachment, either) but do recall that a Clown

 

College was there.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Rudyard Welborn [mailto:r.Welborn@worldnet.ATT.net]

 

Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 8:32 AM

 

To: ; AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com; Lisa V

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Takin Off to Da Nort Country!

 

 

 

 

 

Yo!

 

 

 

Well, we are off to the great white north tomorrow, the land of US 53 and

 

63, cheese, beer, cheese, beer, and the worlds greatest chinese roadhouse

 

WOOS CHINESE PAGODA (on US 53 in Eau Claire, WI)! Now that I can do such

 

things, see a pic of the front of this excellent place in the attachment.

 

 

 

Before we go, just wanted to wish each and every one of you a Merry

 

Christmas and a New Year brim full of good times and safe travels!

 

Tsingtao-ding-a-ling! Kip Quinn and Natalie Kay

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Guest big_ugly_mich@yahoo.com

Make sure to see the Chippewa Valley Museum (and have an ice cream

 

cone), and I'm awfully sorry it's the wrong season to see the Paul

 

Bunyan Logger Camp. You might catch a show at the University of

 

Wisconsin, too.

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Rudyard Welborn"

 

<r.Welborn@w...> wrote:

 

> Yo!

 

>

 

> Well, we are off to the great white north tomorrow, the land of US

 

53 and 63, cheese, beer, cheese, beer, and the worlds greatest

 

chinese roadhouse WOOS CHINESE PAGODA (on US 53 in Eau Claire, WI)!

 

Now that I can do such things, see a pic of the front of this

 

excellent place in the attachment.

 

>

 

> Before we go, just wanted to wish each and every one of you a Merry

 

Christmas and a New Year brim full of good times and safe travels!

 

Tsingtao-ding-a-ling! Kip Quinn and Natalie Kay

 

>

 

>

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Greetings,

 

 

 

Last year the original 1948 Winchell's Donut sign was removed from the

 

Upland, California store location. We took the sign in hopes to preserve a

 

bit of Americana.

 

 

 

We are very pleased to announce that we are raising money for the cost to

 

move the historic Winchell's donut sign to the Museum of Neon Art of LA for

 

restoration. Any amount would be greatly appreciated. The sign will be

 

moved from the current location on public display at Soutar's Dodge in

 

Barstow, CA on December 21.

 

 

 

If you would like to contribute, please send to the Route 66 Mother Road

 

Museum. Checks may be made out to the Route 66 Museum. Please contact us

 

should you have any questions.

 

 

 

Thank you,

 

Debra Hodkin

 

760-256-6776

 

Route 66 Mother Road Museum

 

Historic Harvey House

 

681 N. First Ave.

 

Barstow, CA 92311

 

760-255-1890

 

www.route66museum.org

 

barstowmuseum@yahoo.com

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Guest David G. Clark

I just finished a large new section for my website, something I have

 

been comtemplating ever since I first started the site a few years

 

ago. I am trying to create a place on the web to present my research

 

as it progresses. The pages I just finished are the first part of that

 

project, and I would welcome critical comments.

 

 

 

The new section(s) can all me accessed from this URL:

 

 

 

http://windycityroadwarrior.com/Stories/Pontiac_Trail.html

 

 

 

or you can go to my home page, www.windycityroadwarrior.com and click

 

on the link for "On the Trail of the Named Highways from Chicago to

 

the Southwest," which is the title of the new section. The purpose of

 

this new section is to present research, including sections of primary

 

sources, images, photos, postcards, and other artifacts and documents

 

to illustrate the history of transportation, especially roadbuilding,

 

in the years running up to the creation of the U.S. Highways leading

 

to and from Chicago (arguably the transportation hub of the country

 

for most of the 19th and 20th centuries).

 

 

 

I have tested these new pages with Firefox and Netscape and everything

 

seems to be working fairly well. If anyone finds any bad links or

 

images that will not load, let me know. I would appreciate comments on

 

the content as well.

 

 

 

Thanks, and (hopefully) enjoy!

 

 

 

Dave Clark

 

WindyCityRoadWarrior.com

 

http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com

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Hi Dave!

 

 

 

Possibly wrong figuring. For folks who read from the website, the ET

 

message was deleted before most could read it. I myself never saw it,

 

so it wasn't a waste of my time.

 

 

 

I personally loved Nicole's very descriptive chronicle of her

 

adventure to Supai, Havasu Falls...then beyond to Mooney Falls.

 

Wish it had been longer. Reservation Road #18 from Route 66 to the

 

trailhead at the edge of the canyon's edge, called Havasupai Hilltop

 

(called just "Hilltop" by the locals) is remarkable, traversing

 

through numerous altitude changes which display various plants and

 

tree life, and also passes through a "no zone" where practically

 

nothing is growing. This 60 mile road is one of the most desolate 120

 

mile round trip that you can make. No facilities whatsoever. Zilch.

 

You'll be lucky to pass two cars the whole time, not to mention the

 

photo ops in the ghost town of Frazier Well's and well as the

 

abandoned lodge that was never completed.

 

 

 

Nicole's had a roadtrip experience that I'm glad she accomplished.

 

Her roadtrip took her on foot 12 miles past the point of when the

 

paving ended on RR#18. A challenging adventure indeed, and one that

 

not many of us roadies have, or ever will accomplish. I'm proud of

 

her and her pioneer spirit. Once in the small Native American town of

 

Supai, one will experience "no roads". Only paths as wide as a road,

 

but only are used by horses, mules and pedistrian traffic. What we

 

take for granted here above the canyon's edge is an everyday reality

 

for our Supai friends on the canyon floor. So, in a word "YES". It

 

was a very cool post that warranted inclusion into our discussions.

 

Nicole may not have had a vehicle on the hiking part of the trek, but

 

she did walk and hike the "streets" and "roads" of the Grand Canyon's

 

Havasupai Canyon and Supai Village...and beyond.

 

 

 

I can't seem to recall anyone ever posting about a visit to a town or

 

village which had not one paved road, not one automobile, not one

 

payphone, not one,...well, you get the picture. That alone brings the

 

hiking post on topic, and makes one appreciate even more, the

 

historic value and practical use importance of the 'paved' Two Lane

 

Highways that each and everyone of us can enjoy everyday with the

 

adventures that abound at the end of those paved roads. Bravo Nicole!

 

 

 

God Bless and Happy Trails.

 

 

 

the landrunner

 

<http://home.earthlink.net/~thelandrunner66>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, drivewdave@a... wrote:

 

> ...Yes,I figured the reason it was not welcome on

 

> our site is because it wasted (y)our 'valuable' time.

 

>

 

> Nobody raised questions over a similarly long account

 

> of a hiking trip awhile back. It had very little

 

> if anything to do with roads, it was more about blisters.

 

> (apparently allowances were made)...

 

>

 

> a few days ago I wrote of a short road that

 

> always has an air of mystery, today I drove

 

> there again and with several cars parked on

 

> the shoulders and an old lady walking a dog

 

> the mystery was gone, I was not surprised.

 

>

 

> Toyotaly, Dave

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Guest laurelrk66@aol.com

In a message dated 1/22/2004 8:58:32 PM Central Standard Time,

 

drivewdave@aol.com writes:

 

 

 

 

 

> regarding cooking on the road, about 1990 I found

 

> a little paperback titled

 

>

 

> Manifold Cookery

 

>

 

 

 

There is a book I own (and out-of-pring, according to Amazon.com) entitled

 

"Manifold Destiny", which is also devoted to cooking on one's manifold, but

 

most of it is strictly tongue-in-cheek. There are a few real recipes, but lots

 

of funny stuff, too.

 

 

 

Laurel

 

Afton, OK

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