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Please pardon the advertising-like theme of this posting. I wanted

 

to make sure everyone in the group knows about a great roadside-

 

related event. Between August 18-21, the Society for Commercial

 

Archeology will be hosting its annual conference in Seattle. The

 

theme of the conference is Roadside Culture in the Space Age.

 

 

 

Established in 1977, the SCA is the oldest national organization

 

devoted to the buildings, artifacts, structures, signs, and symbols

 

of the 20th-century commercial landscape.

 

 

 

The conference will feature a tour of the old fair grounds, the Space

 

Needle, the Jimi Hendrix Experience Music Project, a tour of

 

Seattle's neon signs, a tour of Route 99, paper presentations, two

 

walking tours, a keynote address by Walter Crowley and - of course -

 

lots of coffee.

 

 

 

To learn more about the conference, visit http://www.sca-

 

roadside.org/Seattle/Seattle.html.

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

Frank Brusca

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Guest turning2the_right

I thought you all might find this interesting reading. A guy from

 

England I met only on the Internet is driving a 1963 Buick Riviera all

 

over the USA, primarily on back roads and such. (We have been in

 

contact because I, too, own a '63 Riviera and he seeks mechanical

 

advice from me at times.)

 

 

 

He started his journey in February, took a break in April/May and then

 

returned to continue the trip. He is keeping a Travelog of his

 

journey online:

 

 

 

http://www.ealees.com/roadtrip/index.html

 

 

 

It is interesting to read the observations and perspective about the

 

USA from a person from another country. You may also get some ideas of

 

places to go, things to see from him.

 

 

 

Jim

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If any of you know of an author, artist or craftsperson involved with Route

 

66, roads or car culture or are one of these yourself. Please get your

 

contact information to us so that we can include you in our data bank for

 

the 2005 Rendezvous. We are making plans to make this event the most

 

profitable and enjoyable event you have ever attended. So do not get left

 

out just because we did not know how to contact you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We need name, both mailing and shipping address, phone and e-mail

 

information. Product you have to sell and if it is being sold at the present

 

who is your distributor, publisher or venues that you sell to.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes this event is not until September 2005 but we are making plans now. Once

 

you or whoever you past this on to gets their information to us, they will

 

be put on our mailing list to receive updates on the event.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Executive Director & Chairman of the Board

 

 

 

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PSP means Paint Pro Shop? I work in the airline business and PSP means

 

Palm Springs Ca to me. LOL I guess it's all a matter of perspective.

 

 

 

Ken

 

 

 

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Local oldies radio station here has one of those

 

interminable commercials concering PSP - only they are

 

plugging some sort of herbal remedy for Poor Sexual

 

Performance!!!!!! LOL

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- Ken - <dancewithyou@email.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> PSP means Paint Pro Shop? I work in the airline

 

> business and PSP means

 

> Palm Springs Ca to me. LOL I guess it's all a

 

> matter of perspective.

 

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> > Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:38:42 -0000

 

> > From: "Jennifer"

 

> > Subject: Re: thanks for having me

 

> >

 

> > Hi and welcome...

 

> >

 

> > Maybe I'm too much of a computer graphics geek,

 

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> > referring to Paint Shop Pro (PSP)?

 

> >

 

> > Jennifer

 

> >

 

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> > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com,

 

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> one

 

> > son 3

 

> > > years ago due to a car

 

> > > wreck... Hope to meet some friends

 

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lol.. Yeah i was talking paint shop pro... lolBet thats a cool job..

 

 

 

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PSP means Paint Pro Shop? I work in the airline business and PSP means

 

Palm Springs Ca to me. LOL I guess it's all a matter of perspective.

 

 

 

Ken

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

 

> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:38:42 -0000

 

> From: "Jennifer"

 

> Subject: Re: thanks for having me

 

>

 

> Hi and welcome...

 

>

 

> Maybe I'm too much of a computer graphics geek, but are you

 

> referring to Paint Shop Pro (PSP)?

 

>

 

> Jennifer

 

>

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "maryann-sexytiger"

 

> wrote:

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Hello All, Just wanted to thank you for having

 

> me in the

 

> > group.. I am

 

> > 40years old country singer and part time truck

 

> driver.. I

 

> > love PSP.. I am a

 

> > Beginner but love it... I have 2 kids and lost one

 

> son 3

 

> > years ago due to a car

 

> > wreck... Hope to meet some friends

 

> > in this group and have

 

> some fun..

 

> > Thanks again for Having me Big Hug's.........

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

>

 

 

 

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Yeah I don't think I would want to live in it either.--- In

 

AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Reynolds" <roustabout@s...> wrote:

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "terry12622000"

 

> <cottondrop@a...> wrote:

 

> > In Decatur, they started a Meigs County, TN. history museum in a

 

> > little two room Victorian style building that was previously a

 

> > lawyers

 

> > office.

 

> > I really enjoyed the PBS special the other night on unusal

 

> > buildings. For an interesting building check out the spaceship

 

> house

 

> > going up Signal Mountain from Chattanooga, TN> >

 

>

 

>

 

> Hmmm. I've got a picture or two on that spaceship house

 

around

 

> somewhere. I'll post it when I find it.

 

>

 

> When I saw it last it was up for rent. I can guarantee I'd

 

> never live in it. It's a horrible fire trap! There's only one

 

exit

 

> and that's down a flight of stairs. All the windows are small and

 

> high off the ground. It's an interesting place, but not a good

 

plce

 

> to live, IMHO.

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I'm glad to hear it was a sucess, keep up the good work.--- In

 

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> A hearty thank you to everyone responsible for making the 6th

 

annual Catsup Bottle

 

> Summerfest a huge success! (and y'all know who y'all are!!) We

 

couldn't have done it

 

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> A special tip of the big ole bottle cap to Becky and the gang at

 

American Road Magazine!

 

> Thanks you guys!

 

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> We're still trying to recover here at Catsup Bottle Central Command

 

Headquarters, so

 

> bear with us as we hope to update the web site soon. (Two of our

 

beary favorite partners,

 

> the Gateway Grizzlies baseball team and Build-A-Bear Workshops,

 

approved that

 

> message...)

 

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> Speaking of partners, we've had requests for info about our

 

photographers who were on

 

> hand. So everyone please take a moment and visit Kabance Photo

 

Services. The fine folks

 

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over 550 pictures from

 

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you were there, find yourself

 

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time we had this year!

 

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

Yes, we are getting in high gear for the Route 66 Association of Missouri Motor

 

Tour September 10, 11 and 12. There is still plenty of opportunity for each one

 

of you to join us for a wonderful trek through the Show Me State.

 

 

 

In case you don't know the details, here they are. We hope to see you on the

 

Motor Tour. Kip Welborn and Jane Dippel, cochairs, Motor Tour Committee.

 

The Route 66 Association of Missouri will be "Trippin' to the Trolley" on its

 

15th Annual Motor Tour, September 10-12, 2004. Festivities begin September 10 at

 

the Hampton Inn (2211 Market, St. Louis, MO; (314)-241-3200) in downtown St.

 

Louis. There will be a guided "mini tour" that evening, which will take in the

 

Eat Rite Diner and Ted Drewes Frozen Custard. There will also be discounts for

 

meals in the area. Registration for the Tour will commence at 4:00 p.m. at the

 

Hampton Inn.

 

 

 

The Tour itself starts on September 11, 2004. Tourgoers will pass through St.

 

Louis, and will make their first stop at Route 66 State Park. From the Park,

 

there will be a "poker run" to Lebanon, MO. At Lebanon, the tour will veer off

 

the Road a bit to scenic Bennett springs State Park. The Bennett Spring Inn has

 

set aside rooms for the evening. To stay at the Bennett Springs Inn

 

(417-588-9110 or 1-800-IS TROUT), make sure you reserve rooms no later than

 

Sepember 5. 2004. The good folks at the Sand Spring Inn will be preparing a

 

dinner for us overlooking the Niangua River, giving 66ers a chance to chew the

 

fat about the highway and the tour.

 

 

 

On Sunday, after a nondenominational service, the tour will proceed caravan

 

style to the Exotic Animal Paradise near Strafford. The Exotic Animal Paradise

 

will be open for those who are interested. The Tour will then proceed on through

 

Springfield enroute to downtown Carterville, MO, where the tour will end with

 

lunch at Carterville. Tourgoers will be able to view the restoration of the

 

Trolley in downtown Carterville, as well as a true "mainstreet of America."

 

 

 

The 15th annual Route 66 Association of Missouri Motor Tour is a great

 

opportunity to see the Show Me State, get to know (and love) Route 66 in

 

Missouri, cruise with some great people in some great automobiles, and visit

 

some interesting places along the way. Hope that you can join us!

 

 

 

For information contact or email us:

 

 

 

Kip Welborn, (314)-776-7385; r.Welborn@worldnet.ATT.net

 

 

 

Jane Dippel, (314)-843-7132; vestaon66.@cs.com

 

 

 

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Guest David G. Clark

I just wanted to let anyone with an interest know that I was able to

 

do some research this last Saturday and the Chicago Public Library

 

concerning the Castle Car Wash at 3801 W. Ogden. For those that do not

 

know, this building is on Chicago's west side, on the alignment that

 

was Illinois routes 4 and 18 and US routes 66, 32, and 34. This was a

 

major auto throughway in its day, and the transient traffic supported

 

literally dozens of automobile-related businesses. What we now know as

 

the Castle Car Wash was built in 1925 as a filling station. My

 

research on Saturday was to determine the names of the businesses that

 

operated out of that building over the years as reflected in yellow

 

pages telephone directory listings. I have posted up on my website as

 

to the results of this research. The update is apended to the article

 

I had previously posted about the Castle:

 

 

 

http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com/Stories/Stories.html

 

 

 

We are attempting to insure that this building is saved, since it is

 

one of the few remaining structures from this area's highway past.

 

 

 

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Windy City Road Warrior

 

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Guest Charlie and Jan

This was the bridge we used until 1999 when the flood waters washed out this end

 

of the bridge. Now we have a new bridge we use to go over town. going around is

 

two miles now.

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Hi All,

 

 

 

My wife and I just returned from a little trip to Tuscaloosa, Ala. We

 

took the Amtrak from New Orleans to Tuscaloosa. The train is the

 

best! Of course, if you need to get there on time, try a plane or car!

 

 

 

We picked up a rental car and took US 43 south to US 80 in Demopolis.

 

We were looking for the first state capital of Alabama, Cahawba. The

 

town is an archaeological park now. We stopped in Selma Alabama for

 

lunch at Hancock BBQ. on ALA HWY 22. No beef, just pork! We continued

 

through Selma, taking ALA HWY 14 to Prattville. Close to Prattville,

 

we noticed steel siding or roofing in trees! A pile of rubble here and

 

there. Took note of the town and when I got back home, a web search of

 

the city Autaugaville with tornado in it pulled up an article about

 

it! The article showed the track of the tornado across Hwy 14. NEAT!

 

Took US 31 north to ALA HWY 25 west. Then US 82 back into Tuscaloosa.

 

We enjoyed the relaxing ride and the sights along the way.

 

 

 

Charles

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I live near Gallipolis Ohio..where this bridge fell.... I was just about a

 

year old when it happened so I don't "remember" it... but I sure have heard alot

 

about it thru the years.... people still talk about it a lot. The falling of

 

the bridge was recreated for the movie "The Mothman Prophecies" also... did you

 

see the movie?

 

Jandara

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 8/9/05 10:07:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

 

homiechris2000@yahoo.com writes:

 

Now that is a bridge I am glad I never was on!

 

====================================================================

 

Or the Silver Bridge over the Ohio that collapsed in December, 1967. The

 

bridge was not built for heavy trucks, and there was a light at one end that

 

backed traffic up onto the bridge. Well, that night there was one truck too

 

many

 

and the bridge fell. They never did find all the bodies.

 

 

 

My grandfather worked for the firm that designed the bridge. He used to write

 

my dad letters on graph paper. He might have been an engineer, but more than

 

likely was just a draftsman.

 

 

 

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I haven't heard of this movie but will be looking for a copy. Being

 

an old guy, most or all of the river bridges I crossed as a kid were

 

scary. They were all narrow steel thru-truss bridges. Examples of

 

these monsters (some originals are still in use) include:

 

 

 

Beardstown, IL

 

Florence, IL

 

Hardin, IL

 

Hannibal, MO

 

Louisiana, MO

 

Chain of Rocks & McKinley, St. Louis

 

Alton, IL

 

Ohio & Mississippi Rivers, Cairo, IL

 

Brookport, IL

 

Cape Girardeau, MO

 

Savannah, TN

 

Nebraska City, NE

 

 

 

Yikes!....Bliss

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "JanNitz" <jandara@d...> wrote:

 

>

 

> I live near Gallipolis Ohio..where this bridge fell.... I was

 

just about a year old when it happened so I don't "remember" it...

 

but I sure have heard alot about it thru the years.... people still

 

talk about it a lot. The falling of the bridge was recreated for

 

the movie "The Mothman Prophecies" also... did you see the movie?

 

> Jandara

 

>

 

>

 

> In a message dated 8/9/05 10:07:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

 

> homiechris2000@y... writes:

 

> Now that is a bridge I am glad I never was on!

 

>

 

====================================================================

 

> Or the Silver Bridge over the Ohio that collapsed in December,

 

1967. The

 

> bridge was not built for heavy trucks, and there was a light at

 

one end that

 

> backed traffic up onto the bridge. Well, that night there was

 

one truck too many

 

> and the bridge fell. They never did find all the bodies.

 

>

 

> My grandfather worked for the firm that designed the bridge. He

 

used to write

 

> my dad letters on graph paper. He might have been an engineer,

 

but more than

 

> likely was just a draftsman.

 

>

 

> Tom Hoffman

 

> Pearisburg VA

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

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I went to Marietta College and can say that the entire city is

 

wonderful. It's a beautiful area, with a wonderful old downtown and

 

many quaint old shops. I walk across the Muskingum River on the old

 

railroad bridge is a must. A visit to the Mound Cemetery (I won't

 

tell you how many times I was there around midnight!) is a must.

 

I've heard good things about the Maritime Museum, but I don't think

 

I ever went. Depending on when you are going, there is a Sternwheel

 

Festival every year in early September, I believe, that is quite

 

interesting and entertaining for the entire family.

 

 

 

As for campgrounds in the area, Wolf Run State Park is 28 miles

 

north of Marietta, near Caldwell, just off of I-77. I thought that

 

there was a campground just north of Marietta along the Muskingum

 

River, but I couldn't find it in a quick internet search. You might

 

wish to contact the Chamber of Commerce, though, and ask them.

 

 

 

While searching for that campground along the Muskingum, I did find

 

this link, which I find pretty interesting:

 

http://mathtutorchicago.com/ohioriverexpedition/?p=13

 

 

 

Scott Piotrowski

 

Director, 66 Productions

 

Moderator, Historic Roads Preservation

 

 

 

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> I am new to the group. My family and I are going to be doing

 

the

 

> Ohio River Scenic Byway trip and was wondering if anyone knew of

 

good

 

> campgrounds (tenting) or any attractions along the way that we

 

should

 

> not miss. We will be starting from East Liverpool and ending at St

 

> Louis. Any feedback will be appreciated.

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Hello all - I'm new here also and enjoying the group immensely.

 

 

 

Just wanted to echo Denny's review of Davies' "American Road" - it is a

 

fascinating book and a very enjoyable read. The irony is that Dwight

 

Eisenhower's participation in this early cross-country excursion may have

 

planted the seed for his support of the interstate highway system during his

 

presidency -- and which ultimately had such an impact on the roads we all love

 

so much...

 

 

 

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Reno, NV

 

 

 

Denny Gibson <denny@dennygibson.com> wrote:

 

I just finished Pete Davies' "American Road" and want to post some

 

electronic kudos.

 

 

 

Subtitled "The Story of an Epic Transcontinental Journey at the Dawn of the

 

Motor Age", it describes the cross-country drive that the U. S. military

 

undertook in 1919. Because, I guess, this was a military expedition, I sort

 

of expected a detailed but dry recounting. Well, that was just plain wrong!

 

There are plenty of convoy details but they are just part of a nice mix of

 

people, politics, and big business.

 

 

 

The First Transcontinental Motor Train generally followed the fledgling

 

Lincoln Highway and, by design, provided a lot of PR for the LH and for

 

roads in general. Same thing for the whole automotive world, small as it

 

was. There are plenty of people stories about both familiar characters

 

(Fischer, Joy, Seiberling, Ostermann, Eisenhower) and unknown players like

 

the drivers, mechanics, mayors, and local boosters.

 

 

 

This isn't a road trip that you'll want to run out and duplicate unless you

 

really enjoy building your own bridges and digging yourself out of mud and

 

sand. But it might make you appreciate the fact that you don't have to do

 

those things and will almost certainly entertain you.

 

 

 

I have no connection to Pete Davies or the book. Just sharing my opinion.

 

 

 

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White River, De Vall, AR (Being - or is - bypassed):

 

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Both on U S 70.

 

 

 

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In a message dated 8/10/05 9:23:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

 

jandara@dragonbbs.com writes:

 

The falling of the bridge was recreated for the movie "The Mothman

 

Prophecies" also... did you see the movie?

 

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No, but I read about the Mothman and his alleged connection to the bridge on

 

line. It was weird as hell.

 

 

 

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That looks like an excellent road site about the Ohio River

 

scenic byway, Scott. I'm going to check that out myself.

 

And under the domain name mathtutorchicago.com....that

 

would have been tough to find in a search engine when

 

inputing anything about road trips. Is that your trip, did

 

you know the person or did you just stumble across it?

 

 

 

Matt Smallwood

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:20:38 -0000

 

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> I went to Marietta College and can say that the entire

 

> city is

 

> wonderful. It's a beautiful area, with a wonderful old

 

> downtown and

 

> many quaint old shops. I walk across the Muskingum River

 

> on the old

 

> railroad bridge is a must. A visit to the Mound Cemetery

 

> (I won't

 

> tell you how many times I was there around midnight!) is

 

> a must.

 

> I've heard good things about the Maritime Museum, but I

 

> don't think

 

> I ever went. Depending on when you are going, there is a

 

> Sternwheel

 

> Festival every year in early September, I believe, that

 

> is quite

 

> interesting and entertaining for the entire family.

 

>

 

> As for campgrounds in the area, Wolf Run State Park is 28

 

> miles

 

> north of Marietta, near Caldwell, just off of I-77. I

 

> thought that

 

> there was a campground just north of Marietta along the

 

> Muskingum

 

> River, but I couldn't find it in a quick internet search.

 

> You might

 

> wish to contact the Chamber of Commerce, though, and ask

 

> them.

 

>

 

> While searching for that campground along the Muskingum,

 

> I did find

 

> this link, which I find pretty interesting:

 

> http://mathtutorchicago.com/ohioriverexpedition/?p=13

 

>

 

> Scott Piotrowski

 

> Director, 66 Productions

 

> Moderator, Historic Roads Preservation

 

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I'm a big dummy, Scott. I just glanced at

 

mathtutorchicago.com trip. This guy Tim did it in a boat,

 

which makes it all the more impressive. That's gotta take

 

months to travel that far in a small boat. My apologies.

 

 

 

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"Scott Piotrowski" <rt66prods@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

> I went to Marietta College and can say that the entire

 

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> wonderful. It's a beautiful area, with a wonderful old

 

> downtown and

 

> many quaint old shops. I walk across the Muskingum River

 

> on the old

 

> railroad bridge is a must. A visit to the Mound Cemetery

 

> (I won't

 

> tell you how many times I was there around midnight!) is

 

> a must.

 

> I've heard good things about the Maritime Museum, but I

 

> don't think

 

> I ever went. Depending on when you are going, there is a

 

> Sternwheel

 

> Festival every year in early September, I believe, that

 

> is quite

 

> interesting and entertaining for the entire family.

 

>

 

> As for campgrounds in the area, Wolf Run State Park is 28

 

> miles

 

> north of Marietta, near Caldwell, just off of I-77. I

 

> thought that

 

> there was a campground just north of Marietta along the

 

> Muskingum

 

> River, but I couldn't find it in a quick internet search.

 

> You might

 

> wish to contact the Chamber of Commerce, though, and ask

 

> them.

 

>

 

> While searching for that campground along the Muskingum,

 

> I did find

 

> this link, which I find pretty interesting:

 

> http://mathtutorchicago.com/ohioriverexpedition/?p=13

 

>

 

> Scott Piotrowski

 

> Director, 66 Productions

 

> Moderator, Historic Roads Preservation

 

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It was indeed Eisenhower's participation that lead to

 

his advocacy of an interstate system. His decision

 

was further strengthened by his observation of the

 

German Autobahn system that he saw after the allies

 

invaded Germany in WWII.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- Andre Urruty <hinterlandgraphics@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> Hello all - I'm new here also and enjoying the group

 

> immensely.

 

>

 

> Just wanted to echo Denny's review of Davies'

 

> "American Road" - it is a fascinating book and a

 

> very enjoyable read. The irony is that Dwight

 

> Eisenhower's participation in this early

 

> cross-country excursion may have planted the seed

 

> for his support of the interstate highway system

 

> during his presidency -- and which ultimately had

 

> such an impact on the roads we all love so much...

 

>

 

> Andre Urruty

 

> Reno, NV

 

>

 

> Denny Gibson <denny@dennygibson.com> wrote:

 

> I just finished Pete Davies' "American Road" and

 

> want to post some

 

> electronic kudos.

 

>

 

> Subtitled "The Story of an Epic Transcontinental

 

> Journey at the Dawn of the

 

> Motor Age", it describes the cross-country drive

 

> that the U. S. military

 

> undertook in 1919. Because, I guess, this was a

 

> military expedition, I sort

 

> of expected a detailed but dry recounting. Well,

 

> that was just plain wrong!

 

> There are plenty of convoy details but they are just

 

> part of a nice mix of

 

> people, politics, and big business.

 

>

 

> The First Transcontinental Motor Train generally

 

> followed the fledgling

 

> Lincoln Highway and, by design, provided a lot of PR

 

> for the LH and for

 

> roads in general. Same thing for the whole

 

> automotive world, small as it

 

> was. There are plenty of people stories about both

 

> familiar characters

 

> (Fischer, Joy, Seiberling, Ostermann, Eisenhower)

 

> and unknown players like

 

> the drivers, mechanics, mayors, and local boosters.

 

>

 

> This isn't a road trip that you'll want to run out

 

> and duplicate unless you

 

> really enjoy building your own bridges and digging

 

> yourself out of mud and

 

> sand. But it might make you appreciate the fact that

 

> you don't have to do

 

> those things and will almost certainly entertain

 

> you.

 

>

 

> I have no connection to Pete Davies or the book.

 

> Just sharing my opinion.

 

>

 

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I'll tell you what I know of the list of bridges you mention...

 

 

 

 

 

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Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Those old metal bridges!

 

 

 

I haven't heard of this movie but will be looking for a copy. Being

 

an old guy, most or all of the river bridges I crossed as a kid were

 

scary. They were all narrow steel thru-truss bridges. Examples of

 

these monsters (some originals are still in use) include:

 

 

 

Beardstown, IL

 

Florence, IL

 

Hardin, IL

 

 

 

MS: The Joe Page is still a work in progress, as IDOT is doing a little

 

re-working on it. That lift in the middle to let the boats through is what gets

 

me...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hannibal, MO

 

Louisiana, MO

 

Chain of Rocks & McKinley, St. Louis

 

 

 

MS: Chain of Rocks was decommissioned years ago when the I-270 outer loop

 

replaced old route 66. It's now part of a bike trail.

 

McKinley is finally getting rebuilt as the bridge's superstructure had

 

deteriorated badly.

 

 

 

 

 

Alton, IL

 

 

 

MS: The Clark Bridge that takes US67 into Alton has been completely redone as a

 

beautiful four-lane bridge. The Alton chamber of commerce has made the new

 

Clark part of the city logo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ohio & Mississippi Rivers, Cairo, IL

 

Brookport, IL

 

 

 

MS: These two are still a piece of work, especially with that chainmail road

 

surface on the Brookport/Paducah one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yikes!....Bliss

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Hi Jandara,

 

 

 

Would this bridge that fell in happen to be just to the south or west of Hwy 35.

 

near Henderson/Point Pleasant.

 

 

 

I use to run this route alot while hauling loads from Wi. to Eden NC. & noticed

 

that there were bridge peirs/pilings still sticking out of the water.

 

 

 

Ken, Whitewater Wi.

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: JanNitz

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:33 AM

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Those old metal bridges!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I live near Gallipolis Ohio..where this bridge fell.... I was just about a

 

year old when it happened so I don't "remember" it... but I sure have heard alot

 

about it thru the years.... people still talk about it a lot. The falling of

 

the bridge was recreated for the movie "The Mothman Prophecies" also... did you

 

see the movie?

 

Jandara

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Dave,Mike Group,

 

 

 

I realy can't recall which bridge that it was. But it was a toll bridge for

 

sure! & the roadway/driving surface was on the outside of the structure, It

 

probably wouldn't have been so bad crossing this in a car, But sitting way up

 

high in the cabover made it that much more interesting/scarry.

 

 

 

Tom, Your description kind of makes me think of some of the Pittsburgh area

 

steel mills that I have been by!

 

Kind of Eerie & Spooky!

 

 

 

Ken, Whitewater Wi.

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: egyptianzipper@aol.com

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 4:15 PM

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Those old metal bridges!

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 8/8/05 11:58:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

 

stokerk@ticon.net writes:

 

I remember crossing a bridge that sounds almost like the one that you are

 

talking about.

 

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One of Dean Koontz's best books is Twilight Eyes. In it, the protagonists

 

visit an ugly, rundown small industrial city which I believe to be based on

 

Johnstown PA. He paints a vivid picture of the city in March, 1964: steel

 

mills and

 

railroad yards belching smoke, snow that's turned black, and unpainted

 

rundown houses. But what made it really stand out was when they drove over a

 

bridge

 

like that to cross a dirty, polluted river. It made the scene so real.

 

 

 

Tom Hoffman

 

Pearisburg VA

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Guest Christine

The Wausau/Central WI Convention and Visitors Bureau has become a

 

member of a group being formed to promote Highway 51 much the same

 

way that other highways are being promoted for tourism (i.e.

 

Yellowstone Trail, Route 66, etc).

 

 

 

Our group consists of people from towns all along the highway. The

 

Wisconsin folks have met a couple of times to get the ball rolling on

 

this part of the Hwy 51.

 

 

 

I am looking for information about Hwy 51 attractions along the

 

highway today, attractions that are no longer there, memories of

 

trips along the highway -- just about anything is appreciated!

 

 

 

Thanks for the help!

 

Christine

 

Wausau, WI

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