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Guest roamndav

For those of you visiting Texas or the SW this summer, I invite you

 

to visit my Hwy 80 pages where I've compiled some very detailed

 

driving directions based upon 1930/1934/1936-40/1948/1961 maps.

 

About 1/4 of these directions are road tested between myself and co-

 

roadie Doc Rob Garrett of Dallas. The rest are based upon many hours

 

of examination vs. modern road atlasses/Mapquest etc., phone calls

 

and correspondence with many historical societies, and more. We

 

feel as if we've got it about 80+ percent down, with only the very

 

earliest alignments in the '27-30 era really being in question.

 

 

 

So if you're passing by on I-20 (or I-10 in the western part of the

 

state), check my web site 1st!

 

 

 

http://bygonebyways.com/texas_80.htm

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

Jeff

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Guest David G. Clark

Pat:

 

 

 

That website is a marvelous resource. I used it to help when I took

 

my drive down US 34 last year.

 

 

 

Dave Clark

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Pat B." <roadmaven@a...>

 

wrote:

 

>

 

> Dave,

 

> I got that info from this website: http://www.n9jig.com/21-

 

40.html.

 

> Here is the history of US 30 in Illinois, per the website:

 

>

 

> US-30 has gone thru many changes over the years. Originally it ran

 

> from Fulton IL east to Chicago and into IN on the following

 

current

 

> day routes: US-30 Fulton to Sterling, IL-2 Sterling to Dixon, and

 

IL-

 

> 38 Dixon to Bellwood. From Bellwood to Indiana it ran on various

 

city

 

> streets including Roosevelt Road and Stoney Island Blvd. In the

 

> 1930's it was rerouted to a new road south of the original, pretty

 

> much on its current route to IN at Lansing. This process took

 

several

 

> years, and went like this:

 

>

 

> In 1926: US-30 ran thru Chicago, North on Torrance from the IN

 

line

 

> at IL-52 (Now IL-83) to the Loop and then west on Roosevelt to

 

Geneva

 

> (west of Hillside it was on the current IL-38). It then ran west

 

to

 

> Sterling on the current IL-38.

 

> In 1932: It was rerouted south of Chicago to Aurora via the

 

Lincoln

 

> Highway, on its current route. North of Aurora it ran north on the

 

> current IL-31 to Geneva, then west to DeKalb and Sterling on the

 

> current IL-38 (The portion west of Geneva remained US-30). The old

 

> route became US-330.

 

> The next change was when the more direct route from Sterling to

 

> Aurora south of the original route was completed. The old road

 

became

 

> US-330, as an extension to the then existing US-330.

 

> In 1942 US-330 became Alternate US-30.

 

> In 1971 this Alternate US-30 became IL-38 west of US-12/US-45.

 

East

 

> of here the number was removed. The portion of IL-31 from Aurora

 

to

 

> Geneva was US-30 for a while, after US-30 was rerouted south of

 

> Chicago (thru Joliet) and before it was rerouted west of Aurora.

 

IL-

 

> 31 north of Geneva was US-430 at this time, and US-430 was changed

 

to

 

> IL-31 before or at the same time as US-30 was rerouted west of

 

> Aurora. In the 1950's a new approach to and bridge over the

 

> Mississippi River was built and the old road became Alternate-US-

 

30,

 

> then IL-136 (since the matching IA road was IA-136).

 

>

 

> Also in the late 1950's US-30 was rerouted around Aurora, and the

 

old

 

> road became City-US-30 then Business-US-30, and now is unnumbered.

 

In

 

> 1971 the parts of Alternate-US-30 west of Bellwood (US-45) became

 

IL-

 

> 38, the rest lost the numbers altogether.

 

>

 

> During the period 1963 to 1965, if one drove south on IL-31 from

 

> anywhere north of St. Charles to Oswego he would have crossed in

 

> succession: Alt-US-30 (now IL-38, and formerly US-330), Toll-US-30

 

> (now I-88), Bus-US-30 (now Galena Blvd.), US-30 (still US-30). At

 

the

 

> same time he would have been on what was once known as US-430

 

north

 

> of Geneva and US-30 south.

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Guest Mike Ward

Dave and Pat,

 

 

 

If you're really, REALLY into roads, join the Yahoo roadgeek e-group. The guy

 

who does the n9jig web site also does the roadgeek e-group. They really get

 

into some interesting threads on the group.

 

 

 

Mike

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: David G. Clark<mailto:olympia66@netzero.net>

 

To: <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:08 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Roadie Trivia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pat:

 

 

 

That website is a marvelous resource. I used it to help when I took

 

my drive down US 34 last year.

 

 

 

Dave Clark

 

 

 

--- In <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>,

 

"Pat B." <roadmaven@a<mailto:roadmaven@a>...>

 

wrote:

 

>

 

> Dave,

 

> I got that info from this website:

 

<http://www.n9jig.com/21->

 

40.html.

 

> Here is the history of US 30 in Illinois, per the website:

 

>

 

> US-30 has gone thru many changes over the years. Originally it ran

 

> from Fulton IL east to Chicago and into IN on the following

 

current

 

> day routes: US-30 Fulton to Sterling, IL-2 Sterling to Dixon, and

 

IL-

 

> 38 Dixon to Bellwood. From Bellwood to Indiana it ran on various

 

city

 

> streets including Roosevelt Road and Stoney Island Blvd. In the

 

> 1930's it was rerouted to a new road south of the original, pretty

 

> much on its current route to IN at Lansing. This process took

 

several

 

> years, and went like this:

 

>

 

> In 1926: US-30 ran thru Chicago, North on Torrance from the IN

 

line

 

> at IL-52 (Now IL-83) to the Loop and then west on Roosevelt to

 

Geneva

 

> (west of Hillside it was on the current IL-38). It then ran west

 

to

 

> Sterling on the current IL-38.

 

> In 1932: It was rerouted south of Chicago to Aurora via the

 

Lincoln

 

> Highway, on its current route. North of Aurora it ran north on the

 

> current IL-31 to Geneva, then west to DeKalb and Sterling on the

 

> current IL-38 (The portion west of Geneva remained US-30). The old

 

> route became US-330.

 

> The next change was when the more direct route from Sterling to

 

> Aurora south of the original route was completed. The old road

 

became

 

> US-330, as an extension to the then existing US-330.

 

> In 1942 US-330 became Alternate US-30.

 

> In 1971 this Alternate US-30 became IL-38 west of US-12/US-45.

 

East

 

> of here the number was removed. The portion of IL-31 from Aurora

 

to

 

> Geneva was US-30 for a while, after US-30 was rerouted south of

 

> Chicago (thru Joliet) and before it was rerouted west of Aurora.

 

IL-

 

> 31 north of Geneva was US-430 at this time, and US-430 was changed

 

to

 

> IL-31 before or at the same time as US-30 was rerouted west of

 

> Aurora. In the 1950's a new approach to and bridge over the

 

> Mississippi River was built and the old road became Alternate-US-

 

30,

 

> then IL-136 (since the matching IA road was IA-136).

 

>

 

> Also in the late 1950's US-30 was rerouted around Aurora, and the

 

old

 

> road became City-US-30 then Business-US-30, and now is unnumbered.

 

In

 

> 1971 the parts of Alternate-US-30 west of Bellwood (US-45) became

 

IL-

 

> 38, the rest lost the numbers altogether.

 

>

 

> During the period 1963 to 1965, if one drove south on IL-31 from

 

> anywhere north of St. Charles to Oswego he would have crossed in

 

> succession: Alt-US-30 (now IL-38, and formerly US-330), Toll-US-30

 

> (now I-88), Bus-US-30 (now Galena Blvd.), US-30 (still US-30). At

 

the

 

> same time he would have been on what was once known as US-430

 

north

 

> of Geneva and US-30 south.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest william cashman

----- Original Message -----

 

From: roamndav

 

 

 

 

 

>So if you're passing by on I-20 (or I-10 in the western part of the

 

>state), check my web site 1st!

 

>

 

>http://bygonebyways.com/texas_80.htm

 

 

 

Enjoyed you web site and the photos.....seems like we're through El Paso half a

 

dozen times a year (from SE AZ). but usualy bypass the city on Trans-Mountain

 

Road.....maybe next time we'll give SR 20 a try......looking at the photos of

 

the Charcoaler is making me salivate!!

 

 

 

Cya l8r, Bill

 

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Guest egyptianzipper@aol.com

In a message dated 4/7/05 9:39:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, roadmaven@aol.com

 

writes:

 

It may have been a Gousha map

 

====================================================================

 

Are they still in business? I used to prefer their maps over Rand McNalley.

 

 

 

Wasn't it Gousha that had the mileages between the double arrows, like this:

 

 

 

New York

 

< 90 Miles >

 

Philadelphia

 

 

 

Does any mapmaker still use those?

 

 

 

Tom

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Guest Shellee Graham

BILL BOLL and SHELLEE GRAHAM

 

 

 

would like to

 

remind you that

 

our video documentary

 

 

 

?BUILT FOR SPEED: THE CORAL COURT MOTEL?

 

is currently showing on HEC-TV, this month ONLY.

 

The program will air every Sunday and Thursday night (in May) at 8 pm.

 

(Local cable - Channel 26 in the county, Ch. 13 in the city)

 

 

 

There?s still time to see the program. All showtimes are 8 PM:

 

 

 

Thursday, May 20th

 

Sunday, May 23rd

 

Thursday, May 27th

 

Sunday, May 30th

 

 

 

Thanks for watching.

 

 

 

Shellee Graham

 

St. Louis, MO

 

 

 

Check us out on the Web...

 

http://www.coralcourt.com

 

http://www.cafeshops.com/coralcourt

 

 

 

This program is made possible by a grant from CALOP, the University City

 

Committee for Access and Local Origination Programming from a fund

 

established in cooperation with Charter Communications, Inc.

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Guest timsteil

howdy all:

 

 

 

Just wanted to let you know I will be discussing my latest

 

book, "Highway 61 Revisited: 1699 Miles from New Orleans to Pigeon

 

River", tomorrow night on WGN-AM.

 

 

 

Their signal hits pretty much the whole midwest, but you can also

 

listen online at www.wgnam.com

 

 

 

I'll be on the Steve and Johnnie Show, Chicago's number one overnight

 

program, starting at 12:05 a.m. Friday, or, a bit after Thursday

 

midnight, whichever way makes sense.

 

 

 

For more info on upcoming media, reviews, and more info on the book,

 

please visit my website www.timsteil.com

 

 

 

thanks much

 

 

 

Tim

 

tim[at]timsteil.com

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Guest Scott Piotrowski

In case anyone has missed it, out on newsstands now is a special

 

issue of Life Magazine with "America's Most Scenic Drives." I have

 

not looked at it in much detail yet, but I know that it includes the

 

Lincoln Highway, Route 66, the Blue Ridge Parkway, the Beartooth

 

Highway, and the Pacific Coast Highway, along with about 35 others.

 

Looks pretty good. The front says "display until 8/9/04."

 

 

 

Scott Piotrowski

 

Director, 66 Productions

 

www.66productions.com

 

Moderator, Historic Roads Preservation

 

www.groups.yahoo.com/historicroadspreservation

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Thanks for the heads-up, Scott. My dad & I drove the Blue Ridge Pkwy

 

through Virginia 10 years ago and it was one of the most peaceful,

 

solemn drives I've ever been on. Well worth it if anyone is in that

 

part of the country.

 

 

 

Pat B.

 

Speedway, IN

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Piotrowski"

 

<rt66prods@y...> wrote:

 

> In case anyone has missed it, out on newsstands now is a special

 

> issue of Life Magazine with "America's Most Scenic Drives." I have

 

> not looked at it in much detail yet, but I know that it includes

 

the

 

> Lincoln Highway, Route 66, the Blue Ridge Parkway, the Beartooth

 

> Highway, and the Pacific Coast Highway, along with about 35

 

others.

 

> Looks pretty good. The front says "display until 8/9/04."

 

>

 

> Scott Piotrowski

 

> Director, 66 Productions

 

> www.66productions.com

 

> Moderator, Historic Roads Preservation

 

> www.groups.yahoo.com/historicroadspreservation

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Guest Alex Burr

Happy days have arrived - banner day today. American Road arrived

 

along with Andrew H. Malcolm's "U.S. 1 - America's Original Main

 

Street". Got some reading today.

 

 

 

For an old car and airplane nut, what a great cover for the first

 

issue of American Road.

 

 

 

And a great time for all to arrive - yard work is done for today and

 

it appears it is going to rain tonight and Sunday.

 

 

 

Everybody have a great weekend.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

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Hello,

 

 

 

This email message is a notification to let you know that

 

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Guest Scott Piotrowski

I was going to POST my travelogue of my recent trip up the Pacific

 

Coast Highway. Then I realized it was EIGHT PAGES long and would be

 

just way too much for a post. So, instead, I just uploaded the

 

Microsoft Word file to the group's file pages.

 

 

 

Brief background of the trip ... Julie and I went up to Portland, OR

 

for the Preserving America's Historic Roads Conference. Well, I was

 

going for the conference, so Julie and I decided to make a vacation

 

out of it. We spent Saturday night in Sacramento at her mom's before

 

heading out to San Francisco to head up the coast. It took five days

 

to get to Portland, and I feel like we missed a lot. But we had a

 

great trip.

 

 

 

If anyone has any specific questions about the travelogue or the

 

trip, please feel free to email me OFF LIST and I'll do my best to

 

answer them. I've also got a bunch of pictures I might be able to

 

scan if there's enough request.

 

 

 

Scott Piotrowski

 

Director, 66 Productions

 

www.66productions.com

 

Moderator, Historic Roads Preservation

 

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Guest Denny Gibson

I finally made it to the museum when it was actually open and I got a couple

 

of picture that should give you an idea (but not much more) of how things

 

look. They're at http://www.dennygibson.com/sg_sf . I thought the show

 

looked really good. Nicely spaced, the pictures cover the entire room they

 

are in.

 

 

 

The museum closes at 3:00 on Saturdays and it was almost 2:00 when I got

 

there. There were two people in the gallery when I arrived and two more had

 

come and gone by the time I left at close to 3:00. I asked how the show was

 

doing for them and I got what I think was a sincere "good". I don't know how

 

to interpret that.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: Shellee Graham [mailto:SHELLEE66@EARTHLINK.NET]

 

> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:22 AM

 

> To: American Road Egroup; Roadside Egroup; Critical Mass Egroup

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Route 66 PHOTOS - Springfield OHIO

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Hey Folks,

 

>

 

> Just a quick note that my solo photography exhibition

 

> (66 photos with accompanying text)

 

>

 

> "RETURN TO ROUTE 66"

 

>

 

> just opened at the Springfield Museum of Art in Springfield, Ohio.

 

>

 

> The exhibit continues through JUNE 5, 2005.

 

>

 

> For information,

 

> please go to the museum's website:

 

> http://www.spfld-museum-of-art.org/map/index.html

 

>

 

> The Springfield Museum of Art is located at 107 Cliff Park Road,

 

> Springfield, OH, one block north of West North Street (state route 40),

 

> between North Fountain Blvd and Plum Street. It is easily accessible from

 

> Interstate 70 and routes 68 and 72.

 

>

 

> AND

 

>

 

> If you decide to go, please send me a jpeg

 

> photo so I can see how the show looked

 

> inside the museum.

 

>

 

> Thank you.

 

>

 

> Shellee Graham

 

> St. Louis, MO

 

>

 

> Her show is at

 

> Springfield Museum of Art

 

> 107 Cliff Park Road

 

> Springfield, Ohio 45501

 

> Main 937-325-4673

 

>

 

> The exhibition is

 

> Managed by Smith Kramer

 

> Travelling Exhibitions

 

> 800-222-7522

 

>

 

> http://www.smithkramer.com/exhibitions.php?id=16

 

>

 

> To see a few of the photographs, go to:

 

> http://home.earthlink.net/~shellee66/More_...os/304more.html

 

>

 

> =================================

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> I'm not as skilled yet to know how to use the manual settings, like a

 

> regular SLR camera, but someday I might pursue learning how to do

 

> that.

 

 

 

I haven't fooled with digital cameras at all, but the trick to getting

 

sharp-looking

 

night neon shots with a 35mm is to open up the aperture as far as it will go and

 

use

 

the fastest film you can get, then crank up the shutter speed as high as you can

 

without losing too much of the ambient light. The closer you can get to the

 

sign, the

 

more light you'll have to work with, of course. My best neon photos are the ones

 

I

 

take from two to six feet away, with my aperture opened up all the way, my

 

shutter

 

speed cranked up to 250 or better, and my camera loaded with 1600 ASA Fujicolor.

 

If

 

your digital camera has settings to mimic all those factors, you should be able

 

to get

 

some great stuff in manual mode.

 

 

 

Johnnie Meier, president of the New Mexico Route 66 Association, is fond of

 

taking

 

his neon photos at sunset, so he's got enough light to work with easily, but not

 

enough to hide the neon. You can get some interesting stuff that way, especially

 

if

 

the sign is backlit by the sunset so you get the contrast of a bright sunset, a

 

dark

 

silhouette, and the bright neon tubes all playing against each other.

 

 

 

The main thing, though -- as Jennifer demonstrated with her cool photos of the

 

sign

 

being reflected and distorted by her car's shiny surface and gentle curves -- is

 

to play

 

around with any idea that strikes your fancy, whether it's an odd angle or an

 

interesting detail or an unexpected focal point or something else, and see what

 

you

 

get. Sit on the ground. Lie down. Climb up on top of your car. Whatever. Just

 

try

 

something different and see what happens. If you see your surroundings -- really

 

SEE

 

them, in all their amazing detail -- your camera will just naturally follow your

 

eye.

 

 

 

Emily

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Thanks for the tips, Emily. I'm printing this off, so I can do some

 

experimenting.

 

 

 

I don't think my digital camera can mimic 1600 speed film, I'll have

 

to check and see what the highest speed is. I haven't manually

 

worked with the aperture and shutter settings too often. There's a

 

section on my website where Pat and I went to Parke County, Indiana

 

where they have lots of covered bridges. I played around the shutter

 

speed manually when taking pictures of a small waterfall there.

 

Usually my "night scene" setting opens the shutter long enough to

 

work well. If the light is low or by necessity I have to be farther

 

away, a tripod works well. I used a tripod for all my pictures of

 

the Wigwam Village in Cave City. I have some pictures of the

 

Gardenway on my site, from my October 2003 Missouri trip that came

 

out OK, but would have come out much better if I had a tripod. I

 

should add that to my packing list for all trips!

 

 

 

When possible, I too, like to take my neon shots at sunset. I have

 

always found the results to be more spectacular with a deep blue

 

early evening sky and some surrounding light, rather than total

 

blackness. With the Rest Haven, we were in Carthage at sunset, so my

 

few photos of Iggy's Diner were taken then and I like the way they

 

came out, though there's not too much neon on the building. By the

 

time we arrived in Springfield, it was dark, so that's what we had to

 

work with. I like the results, glad you do too!

 

 

 

Thanks for the advice!

 

 

 

Jennifer

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "sundayjohn66"

 

<sundayjohn66@a...> wrote:

 

> > I'm not as skilled yet to know how to use the manual settings,

 

like a

 

> > regular SLR camera, but someday I might pursue learning how to do

 

> > that.

 

>

 

> I haven't fooled with digital cameras at all, but the trick to

 

getting sharp-looking

 

> night neon shots with a 35mm is to open up the aperture as far as

 

it will go and use

 

> the fastest film you can get, then crank up the shutter speed as

 

high as you can

 

> without losing too much of the ambient light. The closer you can

 

get to the sign, the

 

> more light you'll have to work with, of course. My best neon photos

 

are the ones I

 

> take from two to six feet away, with my aperture opened up all the

 

way, my shutter

 

> speed cranked up to 250 or better, and my camera loaded with 1600

 

ASA Fujicolor. If

 

> your digital camera has settings to mimic all those factors, you

 

should be able to get

 

> some great stuff in manual mode.

 

>

 

> Johnnie Meier, president of the New Mexico Route 66 Association, is

 

fond of taking

 

> his neon photos at sunset, so he's got enough light to work with

 

easily, but not

 

> enough to hide the neon. You can get some interesting stuff that

 

way, especially if

 

> the sign is backlit by the sunset so you get the contrast of a

 

bright sunset, a dark

 

> silhouette, and the bright neon tubes all playing against each

 

other.

 

>

 

> The main thing, though -- as Jennifer demonstrated with her cool

 

photos of the sign

 

> being reflected and distorted by her car's shiny surface and gentle

 

curves -- is to play

 

> around with any idea that strikes your fancy, whether it's an odd

 

angle or an

 

> interesting detail or an unexpected focal point or something else,

 

and see what you

 

> get. Sit on the ground. Lie down. Climb up on top of your car.

 

Whatever. Just try

 

> something different and see what happens. If you see your

 

surroundings -- really SEE

 

> them, in all their amazing detail -- your camera will just

 

naturally follow your eye.

 

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Guest Denny Gibson

"What group..." was just a poor attempt at a joke. I kind of assume that

 

every member of the American Road eGroup thrives on 2 lane travels though I

 

guess that's not necessarily a good assumption. Rock City is very cool and

 

so is the Lookout Mtn. Incline. Ruby Falls is right there, too, but I've not

 

seen the falls myself. Kentucky country side could mean horses and/or

 

distilleries. Maybe the Kentucky Horse Park ( http://www.kyhorsepark.com/ )

 

near Lexington. There are a few Bourbon distilleries (

 

http://www.kybourbon.com/ ) near there, too, and the state capitol is fairly

 

close in Frankfort. US-27 goes from Chattanooga to Lexington and so does the

 

speedier I-75 and both go through at least some part of the Smokies. There

 

is a similar choice of scenic (US-60) or express (I-64) back to Richmond. I

 

enjoyed driving this part of US-60 east to west about a month ago (

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/newkid ).

 

 

 

As you decide on a more specific route, share it with the group and folks

 

may come up with nearby "must sees".

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

P.S., Thanks for the kind guestbook entry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: n2dlord [mailto:KHELeader@msn.com]

 

> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:39 PM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Interesting places in SC, KY, and TN

 

>

 

>

 

> Thanks for the response Denny!! Yes, NC is in there also. Two-lanes

 

> would be nice for a while. We really do not have any area in mind

 

> that is why I posted to get an idea of what is good and not worth the

 

> time. We have approx. 7 days to go from Myrtle Beach back to

 

> Richmond Va for our road trip. I have looked into the smokie

 

> mountains and found the Carolina Outfitters and that looked good and

 

> exciting especially the white water rafting. We are also going to go

 

> to Rock City in GA/TN. We did want to see some of the country side

 

> in KY but not sure where to go. Got any ideas?

 

>

 

> I am not sure what you ment by (What group is this?)!

 

> Blessings~Melanie Powers

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...>

 

> wrote:

 

> > You've probably got NC in there too which means the Smokies on the

 

> TN-NC

 

> > border and the incredible Blue Ridge Parkway not far from it. The

 

> Smokies

 

> > offer camping plus scenic drives/hikes along with the tourist haven

 

> of

 

> > Gatlinburg. The BRP was featured in last night's Hit The Road on

 

> the History

 

> > Channel which was mentioned in earlier messages.

 

> >

 

> > Our moderators just got home from a drive KY and their wrap up

 

> > ( http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/AMER...AD/message/3112 )

 

> > might give you some ideas as my response to their own query

 

> > ( http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/AMER...AD/message/3052 )

 

> > seems to have given them a couple.

 

> >

 

> > Do you have some specific routes or areas in mind? You mentioned

 

> camping and

 

> > we can assume an attraction for two-lanes (What group is this?).

 

> Other

 

> > interests?

 

> >

 

> > Denny Gibson

 

> > Cincinnati, OH

 

> > www.DennyGibson.com

 

> >

 

> > > -----Original Message-----

 

> > > From: n2dlord [mailto:KHELeader@m...]

 

> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:09 AM

 

> > > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> > > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Interesting places in SC, KY, and TN

 

> > >

 

> > > My family will be going on vacation in mid-August and I would

 

> > > like to see if anyone can give me some great places to goto

 

> > > in SC, TN and KY.

 

> > > We enjoy caming also and plan on doing a great deal in the

 

> > > 2nd week of our trip. Thanks for any help!!

 

>

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "dubl59zy" <yg@s...> wrote:

 

> I'd like to solicit recommendations for quality Road Atlases.

 

>

 

I use RoadMaster Road Atlas large print, large scale. I purchased it

 

in 2003 at Barnes & Nobles. It has wired pages so you can open it up

 

and it stays open.

 

 

 

Charles

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "S. McSherry" <fergatroid@y...>

 

wrote:

 

> Hi folks. I am a new member. I live in NW Arkansas. I own a vacation

 

> rental home near the Buffalo National River Park and just a couple of

 

> miles off of Scenic Highway 7.

 

 

 

My wife and I drove Hwy 7 from Harrison all the way to ElDorado, into

 

Louisiana. A great road, especially from Harrison to Hot Springs. We

 

drove by your place, Dogpatch USA that is. When my wife saw it, she

 

said she had been there! I was shocked to learn that this park was

 

located on this road, kinda in the middle of nowhere, on a state

 

highway. The place was kinda spooky.

 

 

 

Charles

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Guest Patsy Terrell

If you're going to Lexington, you can tour some of the horse farms and it's

 

beautiful country to drive around. It's really rolling green hills and white

 

picket fences. Calumet is one of the bigger and more famous horse farms. They do

 

offer tours, I believe.

 

 

 

Eating wise - don't miss Joe Bologna's - the breadsticks are to die for. It used

 

to be a tiny little place near campus but I understand they bought an old church

 

and moved the restaurant there. There used to be a greasy spoon named the Tally

 

Ho near campus but I don't know if it's still there or not - great burgers years

 

ago.

 

 

 

For a little kitsch, see Bondurant's Drugs - the drug store that's shaped like

 

a mortar and pestal - it's on Village Drive. I used to drive by it everyday

 

going to my apartment a couple of blocks away and never stopped in. Ah...

 

youth... and the stupidity that goes with it.

 

 

 

Also... if you're in that part of the state, you won't be far from the

 

Cumberland Gap, and while it's not an out of the way place to get to by any

 

means, it's pretty neat. Beautiful country.

 

 

 

If you're venturing further west, Mammoth Cave is cool and you can stay at the

 

Wigwam hotel. Even further west, enjoy Land between the Lakes and Paduch.

 

 

 

It's only a couple of hours from Paducah, down to Nashville with the Parthenon

 

replica (Athena has recently been refurbished) or about 4 to Memphis. Memphis is

 

one of my favorite US cities... Schwab Dry Goods Store is fun, and the Civil

 

Rights Museum is extraordinary.

 

 

 

Patsy

 

http://www.patsyterrell.com for blog, art, cookbook reviews, and more

 

 

 

"Nul ne peut atteindre l'aube sans passer par le chemin de la nuit." -Khalil

 

Gibran (One may not reach the dawn save by the path of the night.)

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> Eating wise - don't miss Joe Bologna's - the breadsticks are to die for. It

 

> used to be a tiny little place near campus but I understand they bought an

 

> old church and moved the restaurant there. There used to be a greasy spoon

 

> named the Tally Ho near campus but I don't know if it's still there or not -

 

> great burgers years ago.

 

 

 

I understand that the Tally Ho is still there and still serving great "greasy

 

spoon" food.

 

 

 

>

 

> For a little kitsch, see Bondurant's Drugs - the drug store that's shaped

 

> like a mortar and pestal - it's on Village Drive. I used to drive by it

 

> everyday going to my apartment a couple of blocks away and never stopped in.

 

Ah...

 

> youth... and the stupidity that goes with it.

 

 

 

I drove past it every day for years too, and I've been inside. You didn't

 

really miss anything. On the inside, it's not remarkable. It's the outside

 

that's so great and of interest to those who love programmatic architecture.

 

Very cool!

 

 

 

Like Patsy, I highly recommend the Lexington area for lingering and taking in

 

the scenery, historic architecture, and the restfulness and beauty of the

 

horse farm country. I feel lucky to have lived there for 9 years when I was a

 

teen ager and college student.

 

 

 

Laurel

 

Tulsa, OK

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AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "S. McSherry" <fergatroid@y...>

 

> wrote:

 

>> Hi folks. I am a new member. I live in NW Arkansas. I own a vacation

 

>> rental home near the Buffalo National River Park and just a couple of

 

>> miles off of Scenic Highway 7.

 

>

 

> My wife and I drove Hwy 7 from Harrison all the way to ElDorado, into

 

> Louisiana. A great road, especially from Harrison to Hot Springs. We

 

> drove by your place, Dogpatch USA that is. When my wife saw it, she

 

> said she had been there! I was shocked to learn that this park was

 

> located on this road, kinda in the middle of nowhere, on a state

 

> highway. The place was kinda spooky.

 

 

 

If you're ever in the area, AR 125 from Pelsor south is a great drive.

 

While AR 7 tends to follow the tops of mountains, AR 125 runs through a

 

valley. I would rank it equally with AR 7 for scenery.

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Last night, on the History Channel, was a great hour on Route 66. Tonight at

 

8pm (Eastern time) is an hour on the Pacific Coast Highway, followed by an hour

 

on the building of the Golden Gate Bridge.

 

 

 

Happy Traveling.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

thehinge@magpage.com wrote:

 

Anyone in this group had an opportunity to check this out?

 

Last night, I saw a real informative show in the series

 

about the construction of certain roads and road

 

structures.....tunnel on I-70 in Colorado, Road to the Sky

 

in Montana, Blue Ridge Parkway. Tune in and you just might

 

learn something about your favorite roadway.

 

 

 

Matt Smallwood

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:16:32 -0700

 

"Mike Ward" wrote:

 

> I could also recommend Benchmark Maps

 

> (www.benchmarkmaps.com)

 

> for their Road and Recreation Atlases. Unfortunately,

 

> they only make ones for AZ, CA, WA, OR, NM, NV, ID and UT

 

> but they are top quality without being TOO detailed. You

 

> can usually find them at most large book stores around

 

> the western U.S.

 

>

 

> Mike

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: parsa9

 

> To:

 

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AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

>

 

> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 11:56 PM

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Road Atlas

 

>

 

>

 

> Well, they are not really atlases, so excuse me, but

 

> some of the very best current maps for

 

> traveling, especially on old roads, are the ones made

 

> by GTR Mapping. Sadly, they only

 

> make maps for seven western states, but they are truly

 

> exceptional maps.

 

>

 

> If you want to see many minor roads, remote

 

> campgrounds, and recreation areas, these

 

> are great. They also show topography which is rare on

 

> road maps.

 

>

 

> They also make 3 good geologic state maps.

 

> http://gtrmapping.com/

 

>

 

>

 

> The DeLorme maps are good and are close to being as

 

> detailed as 1:100000 maps. They

 

> are really not road maps as much as an atlas of medium

 

> scale topographic maps. I have

 

> several, but they are pretty pricey to buy a bunch for

 

> a long trip. The GTR maps are only

 

> $4!

 

> DeLorme maps are often a bit too detailed for driving.

 

> If I need this much detail, I use my

 

> computer maps hooked up to my GPSr. I mainly use

 

> DeLorme maps for finding very small

 

> towns and such, especially during genealogical

 

> searches.

 

>

 

> Parsa

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "R. Droz"

 

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> > You might want to check out the Michelin Road Atlas,

 

> all the nation at the

 

> > same scale, perfect for long road trips.

 

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A nice stop we made last summer was Lynchburg,Tn.. Off the beaten path, it's the

 

home of the Jack Daniels Distillery. They offer a tour and history of the

 

operation--no hard drinks though as it's in a dry county. They do have a gift

 

shop where you can buy bottled goods & collectible decanters, etc.. The

 

adjoining Town Square is a step back in time--sort of like Mayberry RFD complete

 

with Floyd's Barber Shop.

 

Fred

 

 

 

laurelrk66@aol.com wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Eating wise - don't miss Joe Bologna's - the breadsticks are to die for. It

 

> used to be a tiny little place near campus but I understand they bought an

 

> old church and moved the restaurant there. There used to be a greasy spoon

 

> named the Tally Ho near campus but I don't know if it's still there or not -

 

> great burgers years ago.

 

 

 

I understand that the Tally Ho is still there and still serving great "greasy

 

spoon" food.

 

 

 

>

 

> For a little kitsch, see Bondurant's Drugs - the drug store that's shaped

 

> like a mortar and pestal - it's on Village Drive. I used to drive by it

 

> everyday going to my apartment a couple of blocks away and never stopped in.

 

Ah...

 

> youth... and the stupidity that goes with it.

 

 

 

I drove past it every day for years too, and I've been inside. You didn't

 

really miss anything. On the inside, it's not remarkable. It's the outside

 

that's so great and of interest to those who love programmatic architecture.

 

Very cool!

 

 

 

Like Patsy, I highly recommend the Lexington area for lingering and taking in

 

the scenery, historic architecture, and the restfulness and beauty of the

 

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teen ager and college student.

 

 

 

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