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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Ted Bachman" <tbachman@v...>

 

wrote:

 

> Beautiful photos Jennifer! I especially enjoy your neon &

 

refllection photos. What's your secret to the beautiful night neon

 

shots?

 

 

 

I don't know that I have a secret, actually! I love taking neon sign

 

photos. If the sign is particularly bright, I can usually take it at

 

my camera's automatic setting, and holding the camera. If it's lower

 

light, I'll use a tripod and use the camera's "night setting" so it's

 

not shaky. I have a Sony Mavica CD-500, which is very good digital

 

camera. While it's digital, it got a fully automatic setting, as well

 

as preset settings for various shooting modes (night, night portrait,

 

cludy, beach, etc.), but it can also be fully manual as well. I'm

 

not as skilled yet to know how to use the manual settings, like a

 

regular SLR camera, but someday I might pursue learning how to do

 

that.

 

 

 

I'm glad you liked the pictures. We love the Rest Haven & the sign

 

and instead of taking regular pictures of the sign (which we have

 

many), we decided to put the car in the pictures and work with some

 

neat angles and reflections. We thought they were cool, but I'm

 

happy other people think so too! :) Thanks!

 

 

 

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Guest Alex Burr

Hi Pat,

 

 

 

Thanks for the trip "behind the scenes", so to

 

speak. Msg for everyone having trouble opening the

 

links - hilite the top link of each, copy and paste

 

into the URL box - before trying to open, delete the _

 

at the end of htm - then it works.

 

 

 

Happy Traveling.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- roadmaven@aol.com wrote:

 

 

 

> Hi all,

 

>

 

> Forty-nine weekends out of the year, Speedway,

 

> Indiana, population 12,881,

 

> is a typical sleepy little urban town. However, for

 

> those other three

 

> weekends, the population increases to over 300,000

 

> and is large enough to be the

 

> 2nd largest city in Indiana.

 

>

 

> The anchor of this town is a 2.5 mile piece of

 

> pavement that has left many

 

> driving in circles. Built in 1909 as a testing

 

> facility for automobiles for

 

> Indiana's automobile industry, the Indianapolis

 

> Motor Speedway has evolved to

 

> host the largest sporting event in the world, the

 

> Indianapolis 500. The

 

> speedway was developed, among others, by Carl

 

> Fisher, the owner of the Fisher

 

> Automobile Company, thought to be the first car

 

> dealership in the early 20th

 

> century, where Reos, Packard, Stutz', and others

 

> were sold. He also founded the

 

> Prest-O-Lite company, the maker of the first sealed

 

> beam headlight. He also

 

> envisioned and gave us the Lincoln Highway, the

 

> Dixie Highway, and developed

 

> Miami Beach. He once said, aˆ?The highways of

 

> America are built chiefly of

 

> politics, whereas the proper material is crushed

 

> rock or concreteaˆ?. Those words

 

> still seem to be the rule even nearly 100 years

 

> later!

 

>

 

> In 1909, the location of the speedway was rural.

 

> As years past, nearby

 

> Indianapolis caught up with the speedway, and thus

 

> you have a 328 acre behemoth

 

> in an urban setting. In 1926, boundaries were set

 

> and the "Town of Speedway"

 

> was incorporated, and those boundaries are still

 

> here today. And yes, the

 

> "Indianapolis" Motor Speedway actually resides in

 

> the Town of Speedway. Speedway

 

> has its own school system, fire and police

 

> departments, street departments,

 

> library...everything any town has. With over 260,000

 

> permanent seats added

 

> throughout the years, the race day attendance

 

> (thought figures are never

 

> released) is estimated to be well over 300,000 with

 

> general admission fans,

 

> workers, pit crews, etc. If that's not enough,

 

> Formula 1 races here in June, and

 

> NASCAR in August.

 

>

 

> Things have evolved ON the track as well.

 

> Originally paved with crushed

 

> stone and tar, the pavement was soon paved with over

 

> 3 million bricks. By the

 

> 1960's, the entire track was paved with asphalt,

 

> though the bricks still

 

> remain beneath its surface. The first race in 1911

 

> was won by Ray Harroun, who

 

> piloted his "Marmon Wasp" at an average speed of 74

 

> mph, taking over 6 hours to

 

> complete. In contrast, 26 year old Brit Dan Wheldon

 

> took just over three

 

> hours at 157 mph to claim over $1.5 million for the

 

> 2005 500. Oh yeah, Ray

 

> Harroun received $14,250 for his victory. Times HAVE

 

> changed.

 

>

 

> Jennifer & I reside in Speedway, just some 3

 

> blocks west of the speedway,

 

> as some of you know. This year we made an effort to

 

> document a lot of the

 

> events that surround the Indy 500. Here are some

 

> links from our web site that

 

> depict various days of the month of May. It's an

 

> event, especially race day,

 

> that I tell anyone they need to experience once in

 

> their life, even if they're

 

> not a race fan. The pageantry and patriotism on race

 

> day of this Memorial Day

 

> weekend event will leave you with a renewed sense

 

> of pride to be an

 

> American...if not a race fan.

 

>

 

> Link 1: "Bump Day", May 22. This is the last chance

 

> to qualify.

 

>

 

_http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/Indy500BD-2005.htm_

 

>

 

>

 

(http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/Indy500BD-2005.htm)

 

>

 

>

 

> Link 2: "Community Day", May 25. For $5, you can

 

> take a lap around the

 

> speedway in YOUR car.

 

>

 

_http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/I...0Comm-2005.htm_

 

>

 

>

 

(http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/I...00Comm-2005.htm)

 

>

 

>

 

> Link 3: "500 Festival Parade", May 28. Over 200,000

 

> fills the streets of

 

> downtown Indianapolis.

 

>

 

_http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/500parade2005.htm_

 

>

 

>

 

(http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/500parade2005.htm)

 

>

 

>

 

> Link 4: Sites & sounds from race day and the 89th

 

> Indianapolis 500.

 

>

 

_http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/Indy500-2005.htm_

 

>

 

>

 

(http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/Indy500-2005.htm)

 

>

 

>

 

> Hope you all enjoyed!

 

>

 

> Regards,

 

>

 

> Pat Bremer

 

> Speedway, IN

 

> _http://roadtripmemories.com_

 

> (http://roadtripmemories.com)

 

>

 

>

 

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

 

> removed]

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

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but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

It will be a good time (although the Fair St. Louis is not that great) it

 

will mark the reopening of the first bridge across the Mississippi--the Eads

 

Bridge...the ceremony is at 9 a.m. on Friday. Quinn and I have a difference

 

of opine on when you can actually cross it. Quinn thinks it will be open for

 

the entire weekend; my reading is that it opens for general traffic on

 

Sunday...pedestrians and cyclists can cross as well as autos, I think...a

 

most excellent reason for a roadie to visit St. Louis this July

 

4th...Tsingtao Kip

 

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Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Favorite drives

 

 

 

 

 

> Alex,

 

>

 

> I'm already a HUGE blues fan. Just caught Buddy Guy last Tuesday

 

> night for the 10th or 11th time. I am very interested in American

 

> culture and photographing the small mom and pop businesses that are

 

> getting pushed out by big business. Walker Evans, Robert Frank,

 

> Dorothea Lange(all the FSA photographers) have all been big

 

> influences on me and my work.

 

> I'm also going to be driving Rt 66 to St Louis over the 4th weekend.

 

> Thanks for all the info on highway 61.

 

>

 

> Allen

 

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, roadmaven@a... wrote:

 

So who's got a road trip scheduled for the July 4th weekend?? >

 

> Pat in Speedway

 

> http://theroadmaven.com

 

 

 

Most of us Missouri '66 roadies are cruisin' out to the Rosati Winery

 

(between Cuba and St. James) for our quarterly association meeting on

 

Saturday. They make a nice Route 66 Red there at a good price and

 

the dining/meeting accomodations are excellent. Then we'll all

 

cruise back to Cuba for a long happy hour at the East Office Lounge

 

(best fries on '66; choice of original hand-cut soft spuds or a

 

firmer pepper fry -- hot wings a close second) and a complete

 

rebashing, er, rehasing of the meeting and, of course, supplying

 

answers to every conceivable problem. Experienced roadies will throw

 

in an overnight bag j.i.c. we don't get any farther than Cuba. Life

 

is grand, ain't it?

 

 

 

Still Cruisin' Route 66,

 

Bliss

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

Depends on how long you have....goin from Memphi south is an excellent trip;

 

add a couple of days and I would stay start in St. Louis...a week, start in

 

Keokuk, Ia...the whole road is really cool and if you got time it is worth

 

trekkin up to Thunder Bay, pluggin in The Complete Works of Sonny Boy

 

Williamson, and headin south...wherever you start, itll be fun...Tsingtao,

 

Kip

 

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To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 5:11 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Thanks all you road warriors

 

 

 

 

 

> Thanks one and all for the wonderful responses.

 

>

 

> I live just west of Chicago (Oak Park). My wife and I love the drive

 

> to Galena. We've driven US 20 several times. We've also gone down Il

 

> 84 south through Savanna to US 30 which is also a nice drive.

 

>

 

> We will be going down old 66 to St Louis for the 4th. If I had more

 

> time I would take the route through Virden, Carlinville and Benld.

 

> Maybe stop at Funks Grove for some syrup.

 

>

 

> Maybe come back US 50 east to US 45 north. If we're lucky we will not

 

> have to get near an Interstate.

 

>

 

> I can see by some of the responses that I am going to have to

 

> consider an eastern road trip in the near future.

 

>

 

> I think when we do the 61 trip we might start in Memphis. Any good

 

> arguments for starting in Minn? I'm just starting to plan so I'm very

 

> open to suggestion. Please suggest any points of intrest.

 

>

 

> My first 66 trip I really missed a lot especially in New Mexico and

 

> Arizona. I found a lot on later trips that made those later trips fun

 

> but I wish I would have had a great resouce like this back before the

 

> first trip.

 

>

 

> Thanks again everyone and I'll share images from the road.

 

>

 

> Allen

 

>

 

>

 

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Guest Pat B.

Hi Alex, thanks for the heads-up on the links. I sent the note via e-

 

mail and AOL did some weird things to the links. Hopefully they'll

 

work right here from the group's web site:

 

 

 

http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/Indy500BD-2005.htm

 

 

 

http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/I...00Comm-2005.htm

 

 

 

http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/500parade2005.htm

 

 

 

http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/Indy500-2005.htm

 

 

 

 

 

Pat B.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...>

 

wrote:

 

> Hi Pat,

 

>

 

> Thanks for the trip "behind the scenes", so to

 

> speak. Msg for everyone having trouble opening the

 

> links - hilite the top link of each, copy and paste

 

> into the URL box - before trying to open, delete the _

 

> at the end of htm - then it works.

 

>

 

> Happy Traveling.

 

>

 

> Hudsonly,

 

> Alex B

 

>

 

> --- roadmaven@a... wrote:

 

>

 

> > Hi all,

 

> >

 

> > Forty-nine weekends out of the year, Speedway,

 

> > Indiana, population 12,881,

 

> > is a typical sleepy little urban town. However, for

 

> > those other three

 

> > weekends, the population increases to over 300,000

 

> > and is large enough to be the

 

> > 2nd largest city in Indiana.

 

> >

 

> > The anchor of this town is a 2.5 mile piece of

 

> > pavement that has left many

 

> > driving in circles. Built in 1909 as a testing

 

> > facility for automobiles for

 

> > Indiana's automobile industry, the Indianapolis

 

> > Motor Speedway has evolved to

 

> > host the largest sporting event in the world, the

 

> > Indianapolis 500. The

 

> > speedway was developed, among others, by Carl

 

> > Fisher, the owner of the Fisher

 

> > Automobile Company, thought to be the first car

 

> > dealership in the early 20th

 

> > century, where Reos, Packard, Stutz', and others

 

> > were sold. He also founded the

 

> > Prest-O-Lite company, the maker of the first sealed

 

> > beam headlight. He also

 

> > envisioned and gave us the Lincoln Highway, the

 

> > Dixie Highway, and developed

 

> > Miami Beach. He once said, aˆ?The highways of

 

> > America are built chiefly of

 

> > politics, whereas the proper material is crushed

 

> > rock or concreteaˆ?. Those words

 

> > still seem to be the rule even nearly 100 years

 

> > later!

 

> >

 

> > In 1909, the location of the speedway was rural.

 

> > As years past, nearby

 

> > Indianapolis caught up with the speedway, and thus

 

> > you have a 328 acre behemoth

 

> > in an urban setting. In 1926, boundaries were set

 

> > and the "Town of Speedway"

 

> > was incorporated, and those boundaries are still

 

> > here today. And yes, the

 

> > "Indianapolis" Motor Speedway actually resides in

 

> > the Town of Speedway. Speedway

 

> > has its own school system, fire and police

 

> > departments, street departments,

 

> > library...everything any town has. With over 260,000

 

> > permanent seats added

 

> > throughout the years, the race day attendance

 

> > (thought figures are never

 

> > released) is estimated to be well over 300,000 with

 

> > general admission fans,

 

> > workers, pit crews, etc. If that's not enough,

 

> > Formula 1 races here in June, and

 

> > NASCAR in August.

 

> >

 

> > Things have evolved ON the track as well.

 

> > Originally paved with crushed

 

> > stone and tar, the pavement was soon paved with over

 

> > 3 million bricks. By the

 

> > 1960's, the entire track was paved with asphalt,

 

> > though the bricks still

 

> > remain beneath its surface. The first race in 1911

 

> > was won by Ray Harroun, who

 

> > piloted his "Marmon Wasp" at an average speed of 74

 

> > mph, taking over 6 hours to

 

> > complete. In contrast, 26 year old Brit Dan Wheldon

 

> > took just over three

 

> > hours at 157 mph to claim over $1.5 million for the

 

> > 2005 500. Oh yeah, Ray

 

> > Harroun received $14,250 for his victory. Times HAVE

 

> > changed.

 

> >

 

> > Jennifer & I reside in Speedway, just some 3

 

> > blocks west of the speedway,

 

> > as some of you know. This year we made an effort to

 

> > document a lot of the

 

> > events that surround the Indy 500. Here are some

 

> > links from our web site that

 

> > depict various days of the month of May. It's an

 

> > event, especially race day,

 

> > that I tell anyone they need to experience once in

 

> > their life, even if they're

 

> > not a race fan. The pageantry and patriotism on race

 

> > day of this Memorial Day

 

> > weekend event will leave you with a renewed sense

 

> > of pride to be an

 

> > American...if not a race fan.

 

> >

 

> > Link 1: "Bump Day", May 22. This is the last chance

 

> > to qualify.

 

> >

 

> _http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/Indy500BD-2005.htm_

 

> >

 

> >

 

> (http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/Indy500BD-2005.htm)

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Link 2: "Community Day", May 25. For $5, you can

 

> > take a lap around the

 

> > speedway in YOUR car.

 

> >

 

> _http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/I...0Comm-2005.htm_

 

> >

 

> >

 

> (http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/I...00Comm-2005.htm)

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Link 3: "500 Festival Parade", May 28. Over 200,000

 

> > fills the streets of

 

> > downtown Indianapolis.

 

> >

 

> _http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/500parade2005.htm_

 

> >

 

> >

 

> (http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/500parade2005.htm)

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Link 4: Sites & sounds from race day and the 89th

 

> > Indianapolis 500.

 

> >

 

> _http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/Indy500-2005.htm_

 

> >

 

> >

 

> (http://roadtripmemories.com/roadmaveness/Indy500-2005.htm)

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Hope you all enjoyed!

 

> >

 

> > Regards,

 

> >

 

> > Pat Bremer

 

> > Speedway, IN

 

> > _http://roadtripmemories.com_

 

> > (http://roadtripmemories.com)

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

 

> > removed]

 

> >

 

> >

 

>

 

>

 

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>

 

>

 

>

 

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Yo Bliss!

 

 

 

I won't be far away...should be at the Munger Moss on that Saturday

 

early afternoon and might even stay over Sunday night also! Playing

 

that part by ear. Will have Melissa and two of my roadie rugrats with

 

me...so the pool is where you'll find us!

 

 

 

God Bless and Happy Trails.

 

 

 

the landrunner

 

 

 

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> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, roadmaven@a... wrote:

 

> So who's got a road trip scheduled for the July 4th weekend?? >

 

> > Pat in Speedway

 

> > http://theroadmaven.com

 

>

 

> Most of us Missouri '66 roadies are cruisin' out to the Rosati

 

Winery

 

> (between Cuba and St. James) for our quarterly association meeting

 

on

 

> Saturday. They make a nice Route 66 Red there at a good price and

 

> the dining/meeting accomodations are excellent. Then we'll all

 

> cruise back to Cuba for a long happy hour at the East Office Lounge

 

> (best fries on '66; choice of original hand-cut soft spuds or a

 

> firmer pepper fry -- hot wings a close second) and a complete

 

> rebashing, er, rehasing of the meeting and, of course, supplying

 

> answers to every conceivable problem. Experienced roadies will

 

throw

 

> in an overnight bag j.i.c. we don't get any farther than Cuba.

 

Life

 

> is grand, ain't it?

 

>

 

> Still Cruisin' Route 66,

 

> Bliss

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Guest Rob Carnachan

Allen,

 

 

 

I drove U.S. 61 from LaCrosse, WI to New Orleans in 1996 and thoroughly

 

enjoyed the trip. My favorite sections included the stretch from Davenport,

 

IA south to Hannibal, MO; the section south of Crystal City, MO that follows

 

the Mississippi River; and, of course, the drive through the Mississippi

 

Delta country (with Robert Johnson on my stereo). Although I did it on a

 

different trip, the section from LaCrosse north to Hastings, MN is fantastic

 

as well.

 

 

 

One thing to note, back in '96 when I did my trip, Iowa was in the process

 

of building a new 4-lane expressway for 61 in the Maquoketa area and south

 

to the Quad Cities. I drove the old alignment but this is now surely

 

bypassed. You might look for some older road maps of Iowa to follow the old

 

route, which is now probably signed as a county road. Same thing in

 

southern Mississippi south of Natchez -- except there, the new 4-lane

 

appeared to be following the old alignment and may have incorporated it.

 

They were just in the grading stages at that time so I'm not sure what it

 

looks like now.

 

 

 

A few other notes:

 

 

 

- The "historic" southern terminus of 61 is at the intersection of Broad and

 

Canal in New Orleans (not the current one at Tulane and Broad) -- this was

 

shifted sometime in the 60s I think

 

- US 65 used to be signed along 61 from Natchez all the way to New Orleans,

 

as did US 51 from LaPlace, LA to New Orleans

 

- The original alignment of 61 through Baton Rouge follows Government Street

 

into downtown and Scenic Highway north from downtown

 

- 61 disappears under I-55 from the Memphis river crossing north into

 

Arkansas -- the old road was buried and there are no signs to guide you,

 

though the old road might exist as the north/east side frontage road in

 

places (I haven't researched this fully yet); rejoin the old road where I-55

 

curves to the northeast

 

- 61 took some different routes through St. Louis in the earlier years; I

 

believe the original alignment linked with US 66 through downtown, then

 

followed the original US 40 west to Wentzville -- I'm certain that the 2nd

 

alignment continued on Lindbergh to the original US 40 at St. Charles Rock

 

Road instead of turning west on the I-64 freeway as it does today

 

- I think the old road from Wentzville north to the Hannibal area can still

 

be driven and is east of the current 4-lane expressway; not sure on where it

 

is as I haven't researched this yet

 

- I'm pretty sure that the old highway can be driven in its entirety from

 

St. Paul north to Duluth, MN and that most of it is signed as county route

 

61

 

 

 

Have a great trip!

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

Rob Carnachan

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Alex Burr

Looking at my Streets and Trips 2003 program 61 in

 

the Maquoketa area is shown as 'Old 61' and co-signed

 

with Iowa 956 thru De Witt, labled in De Witt at 6th

 

Avenue into South 6th Avenue. Crosses old U S 30 on

 

what is shown as 11th Street on the north side of town

 

and new U S 30 on the south side of town. 956 goes to

 

Davenport and is shown at that point on the map as Old

 

61. Looks like it was buried under the new 4-lane on

 

the north side of Davenport, but is shows as crossing

 

U S 6 on a street called Welcome Way. Shown thru

 

Davenport as Brady Street. Runs on Brady to East (or

 

West) River Drive, where is turns west on E/W River

 

Drive.

 

 

 

Thats what I get from Streets and Trips 2003. Old

 

road maps will probably show a different alignment.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- Rob Carnachan <robcarn@msn.com> wrote:

 

> Allen,

 

>

 

> I drove U.S. 61 from LaCrosse, WI to New Orleans in

 

> 1996 and thoroughly

 

> enjoyed the trip. My favorite sections included the

 

> stretch from Davenport,

 

> IA south to Hannibal, MO; the section south of

 

> Crystal City, MO that follows

 

> the Mississippi River; and, of course, the drive

 

> through the Mississippi

 

> Delta country (with Robert Johnson on my stereo).

 

> Although I did it on a

 

> different trip, the section from LaCrosse north to

 

> Hastings, MN is fantastic

 

> as well.

 

>

 

> One thing to note, back in '96 when I did my trip,

 

> Iowa was in the process

 

> of building a new 4-lane expressway for 61 in the

 

> Maquoketa area and south

 

> to the Quad Cities. I drove the old alignment but

 

> this is now surely

 

> bypassed. You might look for some older road maps

 

> of Iowa to follow the old

 

> route, which is now probably signed as a county

 

> road. Same thing in

 

> southern Mississippi south of Natchez -- except

 

> there, the new 4-lane

 

> appeared to be following the old alignment and may

 

> have incorporated it.

 

> They were just in the grading stages at that time so

 

> I'm not sure what it

 

> looks like now.

 

>

 

> A few other notes:

 

>

 

> - The "historic" southern terminus of 61 is at the

 

> intersection of Broad and

 

> Canal in New Orleans (not the current one at Tulane

 

> and Broad) -- this was

 

> shifted sometime in the 60s I think

 

> - US 65 used to be signed along 61 from Natchez all

 

> the way to New Orleans,

 

> as did US 51 from LaPlace, LA to New Orleans

 

> - The original alignment of 61 through Baton Rouge

 

> follows Government Street

 

> into downtown and Scenic Highway north from downtown

 

> - 61 disappears under I-55 from the Memphis river

 

> crossing north into

 

> Arkansas -- the old road was buried and there are no

 

> signs to guide you,

 

> though the old road might exist as the north/east

 

> side frontage road in

 

> places (I haven't researched this fully yet); rejoin

 

> the old road where I-55

 

> curves to the northeast

 

> - 61 took some different routes through St. Louis in

 

> the earlier years; I

 

> believe the original alignment linked with US 66

 

> through downtown, then

 

> followed the original US 40 west to Wentzville --

 

> I'm certain that the 2nd

 

> alignment continued on Lindbergh to the original US

 

> 40 at St. Charles Rock

 

> Road instead of turning west on the I-64 freeway as

 

> it does today

 

> - I think the old road from Wentzville north to the

 

> Hannibal area can still

 

> be driven and is east of the current 4-lane

 

> expressway; not sure on where it

 

> is as I haven't researched this yet

 

> - I'm pretty sure that the old highway can be driven

 

> in its entirety from

 

> St. Paul north to Duluth, MN and that most of it is

 

> signed as county route

 

> 61

 

>

 

> Have a great trip!

 

>

 

> Cheers,

 

> Rob Carnachan

 

>

 

>

 

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> >Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

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Another section to look for is just north of Canton,

 

MS. Take SR-B (Business 61) into Canton, then south

 

along the river thru LaGrange and back to 61 just

 

north of the Wakonda State Park.

 

 

 

In Hannibal, business 61 might be the old alignment,

 

but not having an old map to hand can't really say.

 

South of New London to the right is the Frankford and

 

New London Gray Road, which is shown as Old 61.

 

 

 

There are other sections to be found, I'm sure.

 

 

 

Happy Traveling.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- Rob Carnachan <robcarn@msn.com> wrote:

 

> Allen,

 

>

 

> I drove U.S. 61 from LaCrosse, WI to New Orleans in

 

> 1996 and thoroughly

 

> enjoyed the trip. My favorite sections included the

 

> stretch from Davenport,

 

> IA south to Hannibal, MO; the section south of

 

> Crystal City, MO that follows

 

> the Mississippi River; and, of course, the drive

 

> through the Mississippi

 

> Delta country (with Robert Johnson on my stereo).

 

> Although I did it on a

 

> different trip, the section from LaCrosse north to

 

> Hastings, MN is fantastic

 

> as well.

 

>

 

> One thing to note, back in '96 when I did my trip,

 

> Iowa was in the process

 

> of building a new 4-lane expressway for 61 in the

 

> Maquoketa area and south

 

> to the Quad Cities. I drove the old alignment but

 

> this is now surely

 

> bypassed. You might look for some older road maps

 

> of Iowa to follow the old

 

> route, which is now probably signed as a county

 

> road. Same thing in

 

> southern Mississippi south of Natchez -- except

 

> there, the new 4-lane

 

> appeared to be following the old alignment and may

 

> have incorporated it.

 

> They were just in the grading stages at that time so

 

> I'm not sure what it

 

> looks like now.

 

>

 

> A few other notes:

 

>

 

> - The "historic" southern terminus of 61 is at the

 

> intersection of Broad and

 

> Canal in New Orleans (not the current one at Tulane

 

> and Broad) -- this was

 

> shifted sometime in the 60s I think

 

> - US 65 used to be signed along 61 from Natchez all

 

> the way to New Orleans,

 

> as did US 51 from LaPlace, LA to New Orleans

 

> - The original alignment of 61 through Baton Rouge

 

> follows Government Street

 

> into downtown and Scenic Highway north from downtown

 

> - 61 disappears under I-55 from the Memphis river

 

> crossing north into

 

> Arkansas -- the old road was buried and there are no

 

> signs to guide you,

 

> though the old road might exist as the north/east

 

> side frontage road in

 

> places (I haven't researched this fully yet); rejoin

 

> the old road where I-55

 

> curves to the northeast

 

> - 61 took some different routes through St. Louis in

 

> the earlier years; I

 

> believe the original alignment linked with US 66

 

> through downtown, then

 

> followed the original US 40 west to Wentzville --

 

> I'm certain that the 2nd

 

> alignment continued on Lindbergh to the original US

 

> 40 at St. Charles Rock

 

> Road instead of turning west on the I-64 freeway as

 

> it does today

 

> - I think the old road from Wentzville north to the

 

> Hannibal area can still

 

> be driven and is east of the current 4-lane

 

> expressway; not sure on where it

 

> is as I haven't researched this yet

 

> - I'm pretty sure that the old highway can be driven

 

> in its entirety from

 

> St. Paul north to Duluth, MN and that most of it is

 

> signed as county route

 

> 61

 

>

 

> Have a great trip!

 

>

 

> Cheers,

 

> Rob Carnachan

 

>

 

>

 

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invited to downtown Collinsville, Illinois, on July 6 to celebrate the

 

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Have you seen the latest spots with the biggest name in St. Louis area

 

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classic "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes!" Watch out folks, they're ripe

 

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visiting the Catsup Bottle and being doused with the catsup!

 

 

 

Featured events at the Fest will include the "Tangy Catsup Taste

 

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The day will end with a free concert by The Zydeco Crawdaddys (bring

 

the cocktail sauce!) at 6:30 p.m.

 

 

 

This family-oriented street festival will feature old-fashioned

 

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balloon toss, hula hoop contest, and our very own version of spin the

 

bottle. There will be live music, attendance prizes, lots of craft

 

booths, plenty of food, and of course, cake & ice cream!

 

 

 

Collinsville's historic Main Street will also host the St. Louis

 

area's largest Custom & Classic Car & Truck Show. Over 300 vehicles!!

 

You can't go wrong with this Summerfest.

 

 

 

 

 

5th Annual Summerfest Schedule of Events Sunday, July 6, 2003.

 

 

 

11:00 Scottish Rite Child I.D. & Fingerprinting Program opens

 

11:00 Scott Air Force Base Color Guard

 

11:00 National Anthem by Tess Boyer (11-year-old star of the Muny stage!)

 

11:15 Brooks Tangy Catsup "Celebrity Taste Test Challenge" (local

 

Dignitaries & Celebs)

 

11:30 Curtain's Up Theater Group preview of "Bye Bye Birdie" soon to

 

be at Miner's Theater

 

12:00 Jennifer Norman, country music singer promoting her new CD

 

"Leaving on the next thing Smokin'"

 

12:45 Hayley Martin, twirling routine

 

1:00 "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" theme song singing contest

 

1:30 Musical Chairs Game

 

1:45 Please Pass the Catsup Game

 

2:00 Hula Hoop Contests (all age categories!)

 

2:15 Catsup Bottle Birthday Pinatas

 

2:30 Water Balloon Toss Game (all age teams!)

 

2:45 Special Guests: Uncle Sam, Gateway Grizzlie Izzy mascot, Seemore

 

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singing "Happy Birthday"

 

3:00 Cutting the Birthday Cake (free to everyone!)

 

3:45 Attendance Prize drawings (Cardinals tix, Celeb autographs, ift

 

cards, and more!)

 

4:00 Car & Truck Show Award presentation

 

5:00 Library "Yard Party" Activities (408 W. Main Street) St. Louis

 

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6:30 Free Summer Concert Series: Zydeco Crawdaddys (next to library)

 

 

 

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Thanks everyone and keep the sugestions coming. I really enjoy

 

reading all this. Man, I feel like packing the cameras and the

 

toothbrush and hitting the road right now.

 

Allen

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Kip,

 

 

 

I was going to start in Memphis but after all this great response I

 

am now rethinking. As far as St Louis this 4th I have a good friend

 

that lives in St Charles. I will do the more eastern route south of

 

Springfield. I really would rather the more western route through

 

Carlinville but that will have to be another trip. I just might head

 

out a little west of St Louis to Rolla or maybe a little farther if I

 

can break away.

 

 

 

Thanks for sharing knowledge.

 

 

 

Allen

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Hey Alex,

 

 

 

Thanks for all the info. I might just take 30 west from south of

 

Chicago then turn south. Its not going to be till Sept/Oct depending

 

on when my business will allow me to go. I was in Valparaiso In.

 

today and drove back on some old two lane sections of old Rt 30. The

 

old two lane sections lay mostly north of the 4 lane alignment. Much

 

slower but a much better drive.

 

 

 

Allen

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Guest Denny Gibson

I just finished a five day crossing of US-60 from its Virginia Beach start

 

to Lexington, KY. Not everyone would spend five days traveling 600 miles but

 

I was distracted by a new grandson, a Corvette show, and the Blue Ridge

 

Parkway. All five days are at:

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/newkid

 

 

 

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Cincinnati, OH

 

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You might want to check out the Michelin Road Atlas, all the nation at the

 

same scale, perfect for long road trips.

 

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Well, they are not really atlases, so excuse me, but some of the very best

 

current maps for

 

traveling, especially on old roads, are the ones made by GTR Mapping. Sadly,

 

they only

 

make maps for seven western states, but they are truly exceptional maps.

 

 

 

If you want to see many minor roads, remote campgrounds, and recreation areas,

 

these

 

are great. They also show topography which is rare on road maps.

 

 

 

They also make 3 good geologic state maps.

 

http://gtrmapping.com/

 

 

 

 

 

The DeLorme maps are good and are close to being as detailed as 1:100000 maps.

 

They

 

are really not road maps as much as an atlas of medium scale topographic maps. I

 

have

 

several, but they are pretty pricey to buy a bunch for a long trip. The GTR maps

 

are only

 

$4!

 

DeLorme maps are often a bit too detailed for driving. If I need this much

 

detail, I use my

 

computer maps hooked up to my GPSr. I mainly use DeLorme maps for finding very

 

small

 

towns and such, especially during genealogical searches.

 

 

 

Parsa

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I don't know anything about what's going on at the Dixie but we

 

suspected there is a problem last month when we did the IL Motor

 

Tour. The digging is probably for repair/replacement of contaminated

 

gasoline storage tanks, a costly procedure.

 

 

 

Still Cruisin',

 

Bliss

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <mail@d...>

 

wrote:

 

> That certainly is sad news. Is there a chance that Road Ranger &

 

whoever is

 

> buying the restaurant will reopen with the existing buildings or

 

will this

 

> be a tear-down & start over? When I was by the Dixie about a month

 

ago,

 

> there was a big hole & a lot of digging going on to clean up some

 

ground

 

> contamination from past garage operations. Do you think this

 

contributed to

 

> the closing in any way?

 

>

 

> --Denny Gibson

 

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> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: roadmaven [mailto:roadmaven@a...]

 

> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:10 PM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: [Virtual Route 66] Regrets and Sadness

 

> (long) the closing of an icon (fwd)

 

>

 

>

 

> Not sure why Jeff's note didn't show up, but I pulled up the

 

> forwarded message from the Illinois Route 66 group. Sad indeed. We

 

> visited with Ernie Edwards of Pig Hip fame recently, and he told us

 

> this might happen.

 

>

 

>

 

> From: Kathy Miller <kath708@y...>

 

> Date: Tue Jul 29, 2003 6:35 am

 

> Subject: Regrets and Sadness (long) the closing of an icon

 

>

 

>

 

> Hi All,

 

> It comes with regret and sadness that I post the

 

> following...

 

> The Dixie Truckers Home will close their doors this

 

> Thursday. At our meeting Sunday, Chuck and CJ Beeler

 

> owners of the Dixie announced they had no choice but

 

> to sell the Dixie. The Dixie had been in CJ's family

 

> for over 75 years and she also just suffered the loss

 

> of her father... our deepest sympathies are extended

 

> to the Beeler's for both losses. Our hearts are full

 

> of sadness at the passing of her Dad and the Dixie.

 

> LuLu and I debated whether to post about this or not,

 

> we decided it was the right thing to do.

 

> As you may or may not know The Illinois Association

 

> Hall of Fame is located at the Dixie Truckers Home,

 

> negotiations are being pursued that will set the fate

 

> of our Hall of Fame.

 

> The Beelers have long been supporters of the Illinois

 

> Association and we cannot thank them enough for all

 

> they have done, and all they continue to do. It was a

 

> tearful announcement as CJ told us of the changes.

 

> Road Ranger will take over the fuel and a company that

 

> Chuck mentioned which I can't remember the name, will

 

> take over the restaurant. The Beeler's will operate

 

> the Quick Stop across the street and will continue to

 

> sell Route 66 Memorabilia. They are doing all they

 

> can within the sale to make sure the Association will

 

> not be harmed with the Hall of Fame. Such giving and

 

> caring people the Beeler's are. A standing ovation at

 

> the meeting to show the love and appreciation to the

 

> Beeler's took place Sunday at the meeting, with tears

 

> in many eyes at the demise of another icon and in

 

> sorrow for this wonderful family.

 

> Our love and thankfulness goes out to Chuck and CJ!

 

> Regretfully,

 

> Kath

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My family will be going on vacation in mid-August and I would like to

 

see if anyone can give me some great places to goto in SC, TN and KY.

 

We enjoy caming also and plan on doing a great deal in the 2nd week of

 

our trip. Thanks for any help!!

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Well, there's always a trip thru and around the Great Smokies Park in East TN

 

- Dollywood is over by Seiverville. Further west is Hurricane Mills with

 

Loretta Lynn's home and other things to see and do.

 

 

 

Memphis has the overdone Elvis Presley circus on U S 51 south of the city.

 

There is also the Pink Palace museum that is really fascinating - has an Imax

 

theater and much more.

 

 

 

More info can be found with a Google search.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

 

 

n2dlord <KHELeader@msn.com> wrote:

 

My family will be going on vacation in mid-August and I would like to

 

see if anyone can give me some great places to goto in SC, TN and KY.

 

We enjoy caming also and plan on doing a great deal in the 2nd week of

 

our trip. Thanks for any help!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You've probably got NC in there too which means the Smokies on the TN-NC

 

border and the incredible Blue Ridge Parkway not far from it. The Smokies

 

offer camping plus scenic drives/hikes along with the tourist haven of

 

Gatlinburg. The BRP was featured in last night's Hit The Road on the History

 

Channel which was mentioned in earlier messages.

 

 

 

Our moderators just got home from a drive KY and their wrap up

 

( http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/AMER...AD/message/3112 )

 

might give you some ideas as my response to their own query

 

( http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/AMER...AD/message/3052 )

 

seems to have given them a couple.

 

 

 

Do you have some specific routes or areas in mind? You mentioned camping and

 

we can assume an attraction for two-lanes (What group is this?). Other

 

interests?

 

 

 

Denny Gibson

 

Cincinnati, OH

 

www.DennyGibson.com

 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: n2dlord [mailto:KHELeader@msn.com]

 

> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:09 AM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Interesting places in SC, KY, and TN

 

>

 

> My family will be going on vacation in mid-August and I would

 

> like to see if anyone can give me some great places to goto

 

> in SC, TN and KY.

 

> We enjoy caming also and plan on doing a great deal in the

 

> 2nd week of our trip. Thanks for any help!!

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Guest Myamiphil

Neato Denny. I liked the timer indicator, but thinking

 

about it for a while, I could see present day drivers

 

jumping the gun when it changed.... and what about

 

when the light is in transition R>G, boy the

 

arguements!!!!

 

 

 

Looks like it belongs in the War of the Wrolds movie

 

(not the present one!)

 

 

 

Phil

 

 

 

 

 

--- Denny Gibson <denny@dennygibson.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> Yesterday I stopped by Asheville Ohio to see the

 

> World's Oldest Traffic

 

> Light. During the town's 4th of July celebration it

 

> leaves the museum and

 

> hangs outside. I have a couple of pictures at

 

> http://www.dennygibson.com/ashlgt and there is a

 

> link to a site with a movie

 

> of the light in operation. I know that traffic

 

> lights probably aren't on

 

> anyone's list of favorite things but this one is

 

> kinda cool.

 

>

 

> Denny Gibson

 

> Cincinnati, OH

 

> www.DennyGibson.com

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

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I could also recommend Benchmark Maps

 

(www.benchmarkmaps.com<http://www.benchmarkmaps.com/>) for their Road and

 

Recreation Atlases. Unfortunately, they only make ones for AZ, CA, WA, OR, NM,

 

NV, ID and UT but they are top quality without being TOO detailed. You can

 

usually find them at most large book stores around the western U.S.

 

 

 

Mike

 

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From: parsa9<mailto:parsa9@yahoo.com>

 

To: <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 11:56 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Road Atlas

 

 

 

 

 

Well, they are not really atlases, so excuse me, but some of the very best

 

current maps for

 

traveling, especially on old roads, are the ones made by GTR Mapping. Sadly,

 

they only

 

make maps for seven western states, but they are truly exceptional maps.

 

 

 

If you want to see many minor roads, remote campgrounds, and recreation areas,

 

these

 

are great. They also show topography which is rare on road maps.

 

 

 

They also make 3 good geologic state maps.

 

<http://gtrmapping.com/>

 

 

 

 

 

The DeLorme maps are good and are close to being as detailed as 1:100000 maps.

 

They

 

are really not road maps as much as an atlas of medium scale topographic maps.

 

I have

 

several, but they are pretty pricey to buy a bunch for a long trip. The GTR

 

maps are only

 

$4!

 

DeLorme maps are often a bit too detailed for driving. If I need this much

 

detail, I use my

 

computer maps hooked up to my GPSr. I mainly use DeLorme maps for finding very

 

small

 

towns and such, especially during genealogical searches.

 

 

 

Parsa

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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--- beckyrepp <becky@mockturtlepress.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> GREETINGS FROM AMERICAN ROAD AND HAPPY 4TH OF JULY!

 

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>

 

> AMERICAN ROAD TWO-LANE TRIVIA

 

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> The FOURTH and the TENTH person to respond to me via

 

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> (becky@mockturtlepress.com) with the correct answer

 

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Didnt see the edition..

 

 

 

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Statue of Liberty and

 

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