Guest mike shadman Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Just to let you know on some information regarding 66 in MO and IL. According to the Secatary of the IL DOT they think it is adequately signed and the Director of MO DOT says we have no money for 66. "Fred M. Cain" <fcain@forestriverinc.com> wrote:--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "rwarn17588" <RWarn17588@a...> > > This is a most interesting development! Are you actively working > on > > this Ron? > > No, I'm not behind it, but I support the effort. Tommy Pike, > president of the Missouri Route 66 Association, said about a month > ago at a meeting I attended that he's working with the proper > bureaucrats to get the scenic byway designation in Missouri -- > including all the alignments, not just one. Patty Kuhn of the > Illinois Route 66 Heritage Project also is doing the same thing. > Ron Warnick > Belleville, IL I think it's wonderful that Patty and Tommy are taking the bull by the horns and are pursuing this. My hats off to them and I think we can all be thankful for their efforts. -Fred M. Cain Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT Click Here --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mike shadman Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 The state of New Mexico has designated rt66 as a scenic by-way. The only state that has and no, all state don't have to cooperate to have it designated a scenic by-way. rwarn17588 <> wrote: --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Fred M. Cain" <fcain@f...> wrote: > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "rwarn17588" <RWarn17588@a...> > wrote: > > Depends how you do it. If you're talking about re-certifying U.S. > 66, > > I'm against it for reasons I've already explained before. But I > know > > that at least Missouri and Illinois are taking steps to make > historic > > Route 66 part of a national scenic byway. This, I think, is the > > intelligent way of doing it. > > This is a most interesting development! Are you actively working on > this Ron? > > -Fred M. Cain No, I'm not behind it, but I support the effort. Tommy Pike, president of the Missouri Route 66 Association, said about a month ago at a meeting I attended that he's working with the proper bureaucrats to get the scenic byway designation in Missouri -- including all the alignments, not just one. Patty Kuhn of the Illinois Route 66 Heritage Project also is doing the same thing. I also heard through the grapevine through good sources that New Mexico and Oklahoma are working on this, too. To have a scenic highway designation for all of Route 66, all the states have to cooperate. It looks like we're well on our way. Ron Warnick Belleville, IL Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hwy550 Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Any of you been on Highway 550 NM? website with more information/pictures http://hwy550.topcities.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Me too!!! Trouble is it's so good I couldn't put it down and read the whole thing, cover to cover, in 2 evenings (we all know TV isn't worth watching anymore). Happy Traveling. Hudsonly, Alex B --- Denny Gibson <denny@dennygibson.com> wrote: > Wow! I had barely finished reading about it when it > appeared. Inside my > mailbox I found a perfect bound plastic wrapped > V3-N1. I have some reading > to do. > > --Denny > -----Original Message----- > From: beckyrepp [mailto:becky@mockturtlepress.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 6:50 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] AMERICAN ROAD > E-NEWSLETTER SPRING 2005 > > > > GREETINGS FROM AMERICAN ROAD! > > Spring is just around the corner, or so they say. > I have a hard time > believing it > when I step outside! It won't arrive soon enough > for me. We are getting > the itch > to hit the road and explore new two-lane highways! > Regardless of the > external temperatures, AMERICAN ROAD magazine's > Spring 05 issue was > mailed to subscribers, bookstores and newsstands > last week! It is > scheduled > to arrive in the next 2 - 3 weeks, just in time to > help you plan a Spring > weekend getaway or your upcoming summer road trip! > For those of you that > subscribed after January 31, we will mail your > issue at the end of March > in the > supplemental mailing. > > You will be pleased to note a few upgrades to the > Spring 05 issue of > AMERICAN ROAD. We are no longer saddle stitched > (stapled), we are now a > perfect bound publication. Our cover is 'glossier' > making it stand out > even > more on the store shelves. And, our subscribers > will be receiving their > issue of > AMERICAN ROAD wrapped in a protective plastic > covering--no more labels > to peel off of the cover! We were able to make > these modifications due to > cost > savings that we realized through a bulk shipping > arrangement recently made > available to us. We hope that you enjoy these > improvements to AMERICAN > ROAD! > > IN THIS AMERICAN ROAD E-NEWSLETTER: > > -BLUE SWALLOW MOTEL FOR SALE > > -AMERICAN ROAD TWO-LANE TRIVIA > > -CLASSIFIEDS > > -WHO'S DRIVING? > > -LAS VEGAS CELEBRATES CENTENNIAL! > > -AMERICAN ROAD YAHOO GROUP > > -ARE YOU SEARCHING FOR A MOTHER OR FATHER'S DAY > GIFT? > > -AMERICAN SIGN MUSEUM READY FOR GRAND OPENING > > -WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU > > -ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC HISTORIC HIGHWAYS OR AUTO > TRAILS > THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO READ ABOUT IN AMERICAN > ROAD? > > -MANY THANKS TO THE ADVERTISERS IN AMERICAN ROAD > > -PARK PLACE: YOUR CURBSIDE CALENDAR > > -RENEWALS > > ---------- > BLUE SWALLOW MOTEL FOR SALE > > The Blue Swallow Motel, one of the best-preserved > historic motels on Route > 66, has been put up for sale, its owners have > announced. > > Hilda Bakke and her husband, Dale, who have owned > the motel in > Tucumcari, N.M., since 1998, are selling it so > they can help care for a > seriously ill relative in Minnesota. > > "Time to pass the baton," Hilda Bakke wrote on a > Route 66 Internet group. > > The 12-unit motel, built in 1939, is known for its > large, elaborate neon > blue > swallow sign, extensive architectural neon, > attached garages and old-style > dial telephones in the rooms. The late Lillian > Redman received the motel > as > an engagement gift in 1958 and ran it for nearly > 40 years > . > Thomas Repp, Executive Editor of AMERICAN ROAD, > had an opportunity to > meet Redman and stay at the Blue Swallow during > one of his research trips > for his book Route 66: The Romance of the West. > Repp states, "Lillian > Redman was a delight. I count it as one of the > highlights of my many trips > along Route 66. An overnight stay at the Blue > Swallow is a MUST for anyone > who considers themselves a true road warrior. > There just aren't too many > classics like the Blue Swallow. Its a > photographers dream photographing > that > beautiful neon sign!" > > The Bakkes purchased the motel shortly before > Redman's death and > restored it. The Blue Swallow Motel is listed on > the National > Register of Historic Places and received the 2003 > Cyrus Avery Award for > the > best restoration project on Route 66. It also is > featured in several > books. > > The asking price for the motel is $165,000. > > The Blue Swallow Motel is listed by Richard > Randals of the New Mexico > Property Group in Tucumcari. Randals can be > reached at > nmpg@plateautel.net or by phone at 888-461-4426. > Visit the Blue Swallow > Motel's Web site at > http://www.blueswallowmotel.com or the realty > group's > Web site at http://newmexicopg.com for more > information about this > historic > property. > > > AMERICAN ROAD TWO-LANE TRIVIA > > The fourth person to respond to me via e-mail with > the correct answer to > the > trivia question below wins a copy of the > Playground Trail, by Lee and Jane > Whiteley. 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Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 If it is the covered bridge I am thinking of (near Greenup) it is not restored--that is a NEW covered bridge! Tsigntao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Williams" <pwdood@quarkspace.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Indiana National Road Guide > Yes, we really enjoyed our trip back to Columbus on the National > Road after doing our "Old Roads Midwestern Triangle" of the LH > through Ohio and Indiana to Route 66 in Joliet to the National Road > east of St. Louis. > > There is a real pretty restored (new?) covered bridge on an old > Natty Road alignment near a town in eastern Illinois whos name > escapes me now. > > I was also very suprised as to how wooded the Natty Road scenery is > in western Indiana. > > Sounds like the new signage will help tracing those old alignments. > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Rudyard Welborn" > <r.Welborn@w...> wrote: > > We stopped at the National Road Welcome Center in Richmond a > couple of years > > back..they have some good info and a brochure of a driving tour of > the > > National Road in Eastern Indiana (just off I-70; Exit 156A)...and > while you > > are at it, if you are cruisin the road west, keep going through > > Illinois...the road is very well marked and there is all sorts of > things to > > see and do and places to eat! Tsingtao, Kip > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 I have one of these Milwaukee Journal atlases from 1932...really cool (they have renderings of the road signage that each state had at the time)...tsingtao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Ward" <flyboy@roadmaps.org> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Numbers Game - atlas question. > Denny, > > I believe I probably have one of the same "Paved Road Atlas of the United States" you have, except mine was distributed by the Milwaukee Journal Tour Club. It was also compiled by the George F. Cram Company of Indianapolis. Mine has no copyright dates on it either but also has the mixture of the pole marker legend as well as the "correct for the times" federal road numbers. The cover of mine is 8 X 11 3/4 inches but immediately opens to 15 3/4 X 11 inches, and shows "logs of transcontinental federal highways" including the incorrectly listed Highway 60 from Chicago to Los Angeles. > > Does this sound like what you have? > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Denny Gibson<mailto:denny@dennygibson.com> > To: <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:44 PM > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Numbers Game - atlas question. > > > Jim Ross's excellent article on the birth of nationwide highway numbering > provided both information and a chance to ask about an atlas in my > possession. This certainly qualifies as a Mike Ward question but maybe some > others have comments, too. There are no dates on the atlas and only a couple > of names. The front and back covers indicate that it was given away by the > Kansas City Journal-Post. I believe that I've seen photos of similar looking > atlases from Rand McNally. Undated copyright notices refer to the George F > Cram Company of Indianapolis. > > Now the good part. Maps are "With New Federal Numbering System" plus the > "Pole Markers" for 32 "Named Highways" are shown. The route from Chicago to > L.A. carries the "Federal Road Number" 60 and "Federal Road Number" 62 goes > through Kentucky. Clearly, the atlas comes from around 1925-26 and shows > that the switch from names to numbers did not occur instantly. Can it be > dated even more precisely? Were these "mixed-mode" maps common? > > The atlas is a great "time capsule" with a glimpse of the name to number > transition and the general state of roads (paved roads are marked and there > aren't many between Kansas City & California) and laws (Mississippi required > 1 red tail light, over the line you needed both red & white in Louisiana, > but either red or yellow was alright in Texas). > > > > > Visit our homepage at: <http://www.mockturtlepress.com/> > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A MERICAN_ROAD/> > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@y ahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brownwho63 Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 I'm posting some highlight and photo op info used for our 2003 Sweetheart Cruise from St. Louis to Marshall, IL. Illinois has posted the Historic National Road signs across the state that designate old U.S. 40. Since U.S. 40 is a commissioned highway, the signs for the current alignment make it simple to follow but it is not as exciting. Following are some of the photo ops in which you may be interested: (And they exist nearly everywhere!) Troy - Sunset Inn (east of town) Pocahontas - Old National alignment at east edge -- old concrete marker on dead end section (there is a former highway bridge farther east of this alignment but it`s inaccessible) -- old alignment that dead ends in both directions after crossing Shoal Creek (turn left) Greenville - Functioning movie theater marquee downtown -- retro- styled diner -- courthouse Hagarstown - Old concrete bridge remains west of town Vandalia - First capitol building in the state -- still functioning Liberty Theater marquee -- cool downtown area. Charlie's Redwood Inn is a good watering hole. St. Elmo - Elmo Theater marquee-- Mail Pouch sign on brick building Altamont - Altamont Inn -- cool downtown area. Lukenbach's Bar and Grill is a good lunch stop and watering hole. Keptown - Awesome neon sign for the defunct El Rancho Motel just east of town Effingham - Very cool downtown area that includes The Heart marquee for movie theater. Teutopolis - "Hoosiers" style high school building -- neat town to drive through Jewett - Old alignment includes Grandpa's Place, an antique store -- another concrete road marker Greenup - "Must-see" covered bridge on west edge -- Greenup Antique Mall (formerly Ettelbricks' Shoe Factory - offices for the 4 family owned plants across the street) -- awesome downtown area -- Stockyards Restaurant & Bar -- another old school -- 5 Star Motel sign -- Meramec Caverns buildings (2) just east of town Casey - Cool downtown area -- Mobil flying horse at US 40 intersection -- old sign for closed restaurant -- Richards' Farm Restaurant & Gifts (barn) just east of town on current alignment Martinsville - Another old school -- Picket Fence Restaurant -- '55 DeSoto for sale, $3,200 Clark Center -- Old, old drivable alignment at Freedom Church sign just west of town -- short drivable brick alignment east of town at 1400 Road -- another brick alignment farther east at the Baystown Road exit (can't drive - posted) Marshall - Marshall Family Restaurant & Lounge -- Frontier Bar -- Diamond Bar -- The Archer House -- Sam's Restaurant & Seafood -- cool downtown area -- Bishop's Cafe....Bliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mike shadman Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Good Luck! Your have a lot of battles to fight! Scott Piotrowski <rt66prods@yahoo.com> wrote:I apologize to anyone who is seeing this on multiple groups. Recently, I started a new group on yahoo called "historicroadspreservation." It is solely about preservation issues alongside America's Historic Roads. It is not to be used as a social group, but solely as a means of alerting people to upcoming and in-progress preservation battles. It is, essentially, a call for action. The mission statement of the group is "This moderated group exists to promote preservation issues along America's Historic Roads. It is being created as a means of disseminating information to those who are interested in preservation of America's Roadside attractions." I welcome anyone interested to join the group. It can be found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/historicroadspreservation/ Scott Piotrowski, Director 66 Productions www.66productions.com Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Hi all...There's a neat thing SPEED TV is doing the next couple of weeks. The host of their Tuesday night show "2 Wheel Tuesday" and a partner are riding 50cc Yamaha Zuma scooters from Lowes Motor Speedway in Charlotte, NC to Fontana, CA. Their route takes them through OK City, Amarillo, Albuquerque, Flagstaff, up to Las Vegas, and down into Fontana. Since these are illegal on the interstates, it's only logical which road they'll be on from OK City into Arizona. A complete itinerary can be found at the SPEED website: http://speedtv.com/features/562/ Also, watch for updates Monday through Thursday night on SPEED's "Wind Tunnel with Dave Despain", 10-11pm EST. If any of you business owners out there on 66 encounter them in the next two weeks, let us know! Pat B. Speedway, IN http://roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hodkin Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 A piece of Americana saved! A Winchell's exhibit will be on display in the Barstow Route 66 Mother Road Museum. The working neon sign will be on Route 66 for all to see; details are being worked out. Preservation pride. See news article below. Debra Hodkin Route 66 Mother Road Museum Historic Harvey House 681 N. First Ave. Barstow, CA 92311 760-255-1890 Open Fri-Sun 11-4 & by appointment www.barstow66museum.itgo.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted on Mon, Mar. 15, 2004 Classic Upland, Calif., Doughnut Shop Enters Its Last Week in Business By Lisa B. McPheron, Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, Calif. Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News Mar. 15--UPLAND, Calif. - A 98-cent coffee and a cake doughnut with chocolate icing. That's what Upland resident William Gray orders at Winchell's Donut House on Foothill Boulevard. On average, he has eaten this combination 14,600 times. That's because he has gone to the retro doughnut dive twice a day for 20 years. But that all ends Wednesday. The retiree, who surprisingly isn't enormous from all the sweet treats, isn't leaving town. The shop is being torn down. "You'd be surprised how many people come here for comfort," Gray said. "It's not just about coffee and doughnuts, even though that helps." The shop's lease has been up for two years and there have been back-and-forth meetings with the property owner and Winchell's Donut Houses. But in the end, the shop will be torn down for an optometrist's office, Winchell's employees said. As city planners encourage, and even require at times new projects on Foothill Boulevard to have a 1950s nostalgic design, one of the few remaining authentic remnants of Route 66 heydays will no longer grace Upland when the shop succumbs to the wrecking ball. The neon-and-wood sign atop the doughnut house, which author Charles Phoenix reported in his book "Cruising the Pomona Valley," is the doughnut chain's oldest sign in Southern California. "I hate to see old things completely go," Gray said. The sign will be spared, but anyone interested will have to motor east to Barstow. Winchell's Donut Houses, the corporation that runs about 200 other shops, will donate the iconic 1965 sign to the Route 66 Mother Road Museum in Barstow, where a display will be devoted to the 56-year-old chain, said Ira James, Winchell's spokesman. It doesn't happen often, but it's not unusual for the doughnut houses to lose a lease, he said. "It does happen from time to time," James said. "Everyone has a lease, and they come due." Since it is an arrangement between a private property owner and a tenant, Upland City Hall is not a part of the decision-making, said Senior Planner John Atwater. However, for Atwater, who encourages Route 66 nostalgic design on Foothill Boulevard, it's dismal to see the shop's sign go. "It's a sad day because we are doing whatever we can to promote that look on Foothill," he said. Gray doesn't know where he's going to get his coffee come Wednesday, the shop's last day. Like Goldilocks with her beds, through trial and error, Gray had found the perfect cup of coffee. Not bitter and served by a friendly face. Starbucks is too bitter and expensive, he said. McDonald's had good coffee, but they recently started using a new bitter brand, Gray added. "I've never seen anyone leave this place unhappy because of the doughnuts and the coffee," he said. During the years the doughnut house has become a fixture in Gray's admittedly routine days. After the 75-year-old man's wife leaves for work, he usually gets to the shop at 7:45 a.m. and stays until 9. He comes again in the afternoon to brew over another cup of coffee. With the proliferation of fast-food chains and the disappearing coffee shop, Gray worries he will not find a replacement. There is Winchell's Donut House in Chino, but he doubts he'll want to make the 20-mile round trip twice a day. He'll soon be without the friendly employees, periodic rushes of Upland High School students, young mothers and their children, other retirees and nine-to-fivers on breaks. "It's a nice neighborhood place," Gray said. "I'll miss it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Bakerhab@a... wrote: > Author of Ridge Route The Road That United California, Harrison Irving Scott > to speak at the May 3, 2005 meeting of the San Fernando Valley V8's > > I was out in L. A. back in '97 and drove across the Grapevine...on the 5:( Oh, if I had only known then what I know now! And now I see the old Ridge Route has taken major damage from January's torrential rains and is closed until further notice:( Oh well, c'est la vie, I suppose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David G. Clark Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Jim: Give me a holler if you want me to put you on the list. The walks will take about 2 hours or so, and they travel in a circle back to the starting point. The total distance of each is just under a mile. The 2 tours cover different territory, the first east and the second west from the starting point at LaSalle and Jackson. So you are welcome to come along for either tour, or for both! I am asking anyone interested to contact me and reserve a spot, just so the group doesn't get too big to manage. I am FAR from that at this point, however, so come on up to the Windy City on June 10th! For more info: http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com/walk2005 http://www.il66assoc.org/DaveClarkColor05.pdf Dave Clark Windy City Road Warrior dave@windycityroadwarrior.com 312-432-1284 843 W. Adams Street #312 Chicago, IL 60607-3017 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Michalek" <big_ugly_mich@y...> wrote: > > I thought about riding a bicycle on Route 66 a few > <strikeout>pounds</strikeout> years ago, but never walking! See you > there if I can pull it off. > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "David G. Clark" > <olympia66@n...> wrote: > > > > The Illinois Route 66 Association's 2005 Motor Tour begins in the > > Chicago area this year. Anyone who is interested should make plans > > to get into Chicago's Loop early on Friday, June 10th, to > > participate in FREE walking tours of downtown 66 hosted by Windy > > City Road Warrior, Dave Clark. > > > > The tours will start at 12:15 p.m. and 2:30 p.m. and will meet in > > front of the Chicago Board of Trade, 141 W. Jackson (eastbound 66), > > which is located at the intersection of LaSalle Street and Jackson > > Boulevard. > > > > The 12:15 p.m. tour will cover the East Loop, running along Jackson > > from LaSalle to Michigan Avenue, then returning along Adams Street > > (westbound 66) back to LaSalle. Tour highlights: > > > > The tallest building in the world with weight-bearing walls > > The site of the world's first skyscraper > > The site where Standard Time was adopted. > > The Art Institute > > The Santa Fe Railway Building > > > > The 2:30 p.m. tour will cover the West Loop, setting out from > > LaSalle along Jackson to Clinton Street, then will travel along > > Adams back to LaSalle. Highlights: > > > > Union Station > > Lou Mitchell's > > The site of the Bohemian Cafe, where patrons could dine on > > rattlesnake and bear steaks > > The tallest building on Route 66 > > The tallest building that has no name > > The Jackson and Adams Street Double-Bascule Bridges > > > > The number of participants in the tours will be limited— > RESERVATIONS > > ARE REQUIRED! Please contact Dave Clark directly to ensure your > > participation: > > > > E-mail: dave@w... > > Website: http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com > > Phone: 312-432-1284 > > Address: 843 W. Adams Street #312 > > Chicago, IL 60607-3017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roadmaven@aol.com Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Hi all! I was forwarded an email today from a Corvair club in Lexington, KY from a couple in Sunman, IN who organize road rallies throughout the year in Indiana, Ohio, and Kentucky. By the looks of their website, they seem to put on some good events. Jennifer & I plan on trying the one on April 23rd, if anyone would like to join us. Info can be found at their website: http://www.scenicroadrallies.com/index.asp Preregistration is $20, and $30 day of the event. The rallies are open to any registered vehicles, and each team must consist of at least 2 people, and are limited to 50 vehicles. They seem to be from 60-90 miles in length and last 5-8 hours. Be sure and check out some of the past events. Some of the treks appear to be tailored to the pickiest of road warriors! Regards, Pat Bremer http://roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David G. Clark Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 I have had little time to post in the past year, so I thought I would start working back in with a little trivia question: Due to realignments, the crossroads of US 30 and US 66 has been located in three different cities. Can you name all three cities where 30 and 66 once crossed? Extra points if you can answer without pulling out old maps! Dave Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 I'm taking a guess and say Joliet, Lockport, and Romeoville. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "David G. Clark" <olympia66@n...> wrote: > > I have had little time to post in the past year, so I thought I would > start working back in with a little trivia question: > > Due to realignments, the crossroads of US 30 and US 66 has been > located in three different cities. Can you name all three cities where > 30 and 66 once crossed? > > Extra points if you can answer without pulling out old maps! > > Dave Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mark Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 I know Joliet and Plainfield are two of them. My other guess would be 30 hits Lockport at some point. So that would be my final guess of the three. Right or wrong no maps have been pulled out. Interestingly, last night I drove on and crossed both those roads when I went to the Riviera. For about an hour+ it was just Bob and me takin' it easy and having some drinks. Regards, Mark Buric --- "Pat B." <roadmaven@aol.com> wrote: > > I'm taking a guess and say Joliet, Lockport, and > Romeoville. > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "David G. > Clark" <olympia66@n...> > wrote: > > > > I have had little time to post in the past year, > so I thought I would > > start working back in with a little trivia > question: > > > > Due to realignments, the crossroads of US 30 and > US 66 has been > > located in three different cities. Can you name > all three cities > where > > 30 and 66 once crossed? > > > > Extra points if you can answer without pulling out > old maps! > > > > Dave Clark > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David G. Clark Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Pat: Very interesting guess! No, this is not it, but you do get a gold star for plausible creativity! Dave Clark --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Pat B." <roadmaven@a...> wrote: > > I'm taking a guess and say Joliet, Lockport, and Romeoville. > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "David G. Clark" <olympia66@n...> > wrote: > > > > I have had little time to post in the past year, so I thought I would > > start working back in with a little trivia question: > > > > Due to realignments, the crossroads of US 30 and US 66 has been > > located in three different cities. Can you name all three cities > where > > 30 and 66 once crossed? > > > > Extra points if you can answer without pulling out old maps! > > > > Dave Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Hang on Dave...plausible creativity? Such verbage to throw at this Hoosier! ;-) --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "David G. Clark" <olympia66@n...> wrote: > > Pat: > > Very interesting guess! No, this is not it, but you do get a gold star > for plausible creativity! > > Dave Clark > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Pat B." <roadmaven@a...> wrote: > > > > I'm taking a guess and say Joliet, Lockport, and Romeoville. > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "David G. Clark" <olympia66@n...> > > wrote: > > > > > > I have had little time to post in the past year, so I thought I would > > > start working back in with a little trivia question: > > > > > > Due to realignments, the crossroads of US 30 and US 66 has been > > > located in three different cities. Can you name all three cities > > where > > > 30 and 66 once crossed? > > > > > > Extra points if you can answer without pulling out old maps! > > > > > > Dave Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Worley Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 I know Texas 66 crosses I-30 in Garland, Texas .... does that count ??? "David G. Clark" <olympia66@netzero.net> wrote: I have had little time to post in the past year, so I thought I would start working back in with a little trivia question: Due to realignments, the crossroads of US 30 and US 66 has been located in three different cities. Can you name all three cities where 30 and 66 once crossed? Extra points if you can answer without pulling out old maps! Dave Clark --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David G. Clark Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 It counts for something--I'll let you know when I figure out exactly what! Dave C. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Bob Worley <bwcobra15@y...> wrote: > I know Texas 66 crosses I-30 in Garland, Texas .... does that count ??? > > > > "David G. Clark" <olympia66@n...> wrote: > > I have had little time to post in the past year, so I thought I would > start working back in with a little trivia question: > > Due to realignments, the crossroads of US 30 and US 66 has been > located in three different cities. Can you name all three cities where > 30 and 66 once crossed? > > Extra points if you can answer without pulling out old maps! > > Dave Clark > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Pretty interesting outfit. I recognize several of the spots pictured or mentioned. Seems like they've been operating right between us (Indy & Cincy) for over a year and I had not heard of them and apparently you hadn't either. I can't join you on the 23rd but am definitely interested in your experience. Looks like something that could come in handy when a limited range road trip fix is needed. Or maybe an excuse for you Hoosiers and us Buckeyes to hook up for a Bluegrass drive. --Denny > -----Original Message----- > From: [mailto:roadmaven@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:21 PM > To: ; maychevy66@aol.com; AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky Road Rallies > > > > Hi all! I was forwarded an email today from a Corvair club in > Lexington, KY from a couple in Sunman, IN who organize road > rallies throughout the year in Indiana, Ohio, and Kentucky. By > the looks of their website, they seem to put on some good events. > Jennifer & I plan on trying the one on April 23rd, if anyone > would like to join us. Info can be found at their website: > http://www.scenicroadrallies.com/index.asp > > Preregistration is $20, and $30 day of the event. The rallies are > open to any registered vehicles, and each team must consist of at > least 2 people, and are limited to 50 vehicles. They seem to be > from 60-90 miles in length and last 5-8 hours. Be sure and check > out some of the past events. Some of the treks appear to be > tailored to the pickiest of road warriors! > > Regards, > > Pat Bremer > http://roadtripmemories.com > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lulupic66@aol.com Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 In a message dated 5/29/03 9:54:56 PM Central Daylight Time, kath708@yahoo.com writes: << Awwwwwww poor Dave! To bad you're not lucky like me, I just get to read LuLu's stuff! Kath Illinois, Where the road begins! >> I STILL DON'T HAVE MY MAG! from a very "impatient" Lulu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 We're still waiting here in Maine - for American Road AND my Hudson club magazine!! Maybe today. Hudsonly, Alex B --- excel95540 <ynotexcel@cox.net> wrote: > I am not Worried yet. Not quite to Concerned. > Past Eager,nearly > to Anxious. It's coming soon I hope. > Dave in Fortuna > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. http://calendar.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 I had seen the cover at the eGroup home a couple of weeks back and was starting to get nervous. Not to worry. The latest American Road was in my mail box when I got home tonight and I'm quite happy about that. Looks like another good read is in store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lulupic66@aol.com Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 In a message dated 5/19/04 12:47:25 AM Central Daylight Time, SHELLEE66@EARTHLINK.NET writes: << BUILT FOR SPEED: THE CORAL COURT MOTEL? >> For those of us who don't live in the ST. Louis area. Is there a way that we can purchase this video Hugs, Lulu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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