Guest Jennifer Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 > In a message dated 7/1/05 7:28:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > realtupi@y... writes: > We avoided the Interstates (I fail to see that they save much time any more) > and drove the old highways. I hear you! A few months ago, my mom traveled from Connecticut back to Indy. Around 3:30 PM on a weekday, she was in Ohio on I-70 just west of the Gratiot exit when she was stopped in traffic due to a HUGE accident...it shut down I-70 until - yes, honest!! - 11:00 PM! She called me, and I tried to help with an alternate routing (using my trusty Streets and Trips). Unfortunately, the next exit was 11 miles or so away, and traffic literally never moved the whole time. She was only just past an the previous when the traffic stopped; if traffic had backed up prior to that exit, she could have gotten onto U.S. 40 west and avoided sitting in a parking lot for 8 hours! Jennifer http://www.roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jennifer Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Another FYI post for all of you new members who may not be familiar with American Road Magazine, here's a "who's who" to introduce ourselves to you! http://www.mockturtlepress.com/meetturtlesone.html# Jennifer Bremer American Road Yahoo Group Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russell S. Rein Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Hi Evelyn, Your question isn't stupid at all. Your trip will just require a little research like any good road trip that is highway specific, and with the intent to stay off those interstates! There are quite a few Rt 66 guides and maps published over the last 20 years or so. Here's a link to a set of individual state maps for Rt. 66: http://xrl.us/gmte Some good computer mapping software is helpful like those offered by Microsoft and Delorme. I'm sure the members here can make some additional recommendations. Have fun! Regards, ypsi-slim On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:02:01 -0500 "Evelyn Phillips" <elp@antiquesbyevelyn.com> writes: Hi Everyone: I just joined the group and have a request! My husband retired in February of this year. I was raised in Chicago, Illinois and never missed the old Route 66 series. I always dreamed of one day following that road. Now, my husband and I are wanting to take some short trips (2-4 days at a time) and for our first jaunt would like to start on Route 66 somewhere in or near Normal, Illinois (we live over near Moline, Illinois and are only about 1-1/2 hours from Bloomington/Normal). We would like to travel as much of Route 66 as possible down to about Rolla, Missouri, leaving in about two weeks. I am looking for either a map or information regarding where Route 66 would start near Normal, and what the towns are along the path we would like to take. Also, if Route 66 ends at some point along the way, what route would we follow going in that direction to pick it up again. Can all of this be done without having to go on an Interstate? I guess my main concern is if we get on a portion of Route 66, and it goes for say 15 miles, does it just end? Are there directions locally for what route to take to pick it up again? I hate to sound so stupid, but this will be a new adventure for us, and if this one works well, we will probably do it again on another portion farther down the road taking the Interstate to that portion where we ended the time before. If all of this doesn't sound too stupid, I'd appreciate any information between these two points and would be most grateful to the group. I'm already really enjoying the posts and it's only been a couple days. Thanks again. Evelyn elp@antiquesbyevelyn.com Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance schools YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Sounds like you have some good times ahead. A basic fact is that "Route 66 ends at some point along the way" but it did that a few decades back and much of it has been re-signed with various "Historic 66" markers. There are several maps and guide books available and you'll no doubt want to acquire some for future planning. For your immediate needs, I suggest visiting Swa Frantzen's http://www.historic66.com . This is the most easily accessible set of detailed directions for following the route I know of. That and the signage and your own sense of adventure should help you enjoy your Normal-Rolla drive. Longer term, you'll want to do some reading and study some maps. and http://www.national66.com/ are both good sources. This group is definitely a good resource and you may also want to take a look at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/route66/ . I could rattle on for awhile with specific recommendation on maps & such but I think the URLs I've included make for a good start and Swa's online directions should help with getting together enough information and confidence to have a great time driving to Rolla. I'm sure other group members will chime in with their own contributions. Denny Gibson Cincinnati, OH www.DennyGibson.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Evelyn Phillips [mailto:elp@antiquesbyevelyn.com] > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:02 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] New Member and Request > > > Hi Everyone: > > I just joined the group and have a request! > > My husband retired in February of this year. I was raised in Chicago, > Illinois and never missed the old Route 66 series. I always dreamed of > one day following that road. Now, my husband and I are wanting to take > some short trips (2-4 days at a time) and for our first jaunt would > like to start on Route 66 somewhere in or near Normal, Illinois (we live > over near Moline, Illinois and are only about 1-1/2 hours from > Bloomington/Normal). We would like to travel as much of Route 66 as > possible down to about Rolla, Missouri, leaving in about two weeks. > > I am looking for either a map or information regarding where Route 66 > would start near Normal, and what the towns are along the path we would > like to take. Also, if Route 66 ends at some point along the way, what > route would we follow going in that direction to pick it up again. Can > all of this be done without having to go on an Interstate? I guess my > main concern is if we get on a portion of Route 66, and it goes for say > 15 miles, does it just end? Are there directions locally for what route > to take to pick it up again? I hate to sound so stupid, but this will > be a new adventure for us, and if this one works well, we will probably > do it again on another portion farther down the road taking the > Interstate to that portion where we ended the time before. > > If all of this doesn't sound too stupid, I'd appreciate any information > between these two points and would be most grateful to the group. I'm > already really enjoying the posts and it's only been a couple days. > > Thanks again. > > Evelyn > elp@antiquesbyevelyn.com > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Joel Windmiller Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Ken: How about the old style US shield with the state name and US on it. Along with the correct # font. What would that cost? About 5 years ago I ordered some us signs from a sign company I purchased the current california version of the US cut-out shield for US 40, 50, 99 & 101. I think my cost was around $40 per sign. Joel Ken <thelandrunner@yahoo.com> wrote: Greetings All, Would anyone be interested in obtaining any reproduction shield route markers? Can have them made with ANY route numbers current or past. (ie: US66, US 99, US40, US101, US60, US1, US40, etc) They're made to authentic specs by a company who contracts out to individual state DOT's for actual highway use: Height: 24 inches x 24 inches Material: .080" 3105 Aluminum Alloy Sheeting: 3M Scotchlite Engineer Grade $60 plus shipping. If interested, send me an email and I can send you a photo. God Bless and Happy Trails. Ken Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 How bout this: IN SR 67 to SR 57; So on SR 57 to SR 68; East on SR 68 to SR 14 and New Harmony; cross the river and take IL 141 to IL 1; take IL 1 South through Garden of the Gods/Cave in Rock Country; Just No of Cave In rock you can hitch onto IL 146 which will take you along the Ohio and West to IL 3 (if you turn No on 127, you can go to Alto Pass, which I hear has a fine winery)...Il 3 South through IL bayou country (stop in Grand Tower; if you go to the river you will see the Tower Rock which is an awesome rock in the middle of the river; alas, I don't believe the Ferry runs anymore; also stop in Thebes to see the courthouse where the Dred Scott saga started) and on south to Cairo...there you find two awesome bridges, Ft. Defiance St. Park (where you can see the Mississippi and Ohio Meet)...Cross both but eventually head west US 62 to Sikeston; there pick up US 60 west to Dexter (Stoddard County, MO, my stompin grounds). Get yourself a room at one of the finest roadside ranchouse motel establishments around, the Hickory House and eat some of the best pig you will find anywhere at the Hickory Log...next day head back to Sikeston and take US 61 (one awesome stretch of blue highway, especially after Cape) North to St. Louis; Follow the National Road back to Indy (sorry I didnt' get creative at the end!) ...that's my two cents...Tsingtao Kip ---- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Kinsey" <alf@mia.net> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Ideas needed! Two lane route & destinations south of Indiana... > Jennifer, > > I sometimes get the old Rand McNally out and take a look. They have areas > that they call scenic routes and have followed some of these in > Kansas. You would be surprised the things you can find on those trips. > > Larry > > > At 01:26 PM 7/1/2005 +0000, you wrote: > >Hi all! Pat and I are interested in taking a weekend trip, just > >Saturday and Sunday. I'd like to head south, take all two lane roads > >(though, I'm not averse to taking the Evil-I through Indiana, then two > >lane after). We'd probably leave at 7:00 AM, and stop around 6:00 PM. > > > >Assuming our fairly lesirely pace, stopping often to take photos, I > >guess we'd average 35 - 40 MPH, so we could travel between 385 and 440 > >miles from Indianapolis. I'd like suggestions from the group as to a > >nice scenic route we can take. Any additional suggestions, such as > >diners, motels and things to do / see are welcomed as well. > > > >I have Microsoft Streets and Trips, and a neat feature is to set > >preferred roads, you can set Interstates to low preference and other > >highways to high preference, and it will keep you off the interstate. > > > >Thanks for any suggestions! > > > >Jennifer > >http://www.roadtripmemories.com > > > > > > > > > >Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > > >To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 > >WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > >Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > >SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > >1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > >(save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > >2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > >(save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > > > >For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > >To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > >AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send > >it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bbhann1 Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 --hello Tim i have been looking at highway 20 thus also looking at 26 is there much difference in the roads and terrain. someone told me that i could very easily get stuck behind alot of camper trailers on 20. not that is bad but being on a motorcycle. thanks for your responce. keith - In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <tpalange@h...> wrote: > Hi, > If you're coming into Oregon from the north or east, work your way > down to Bend, in the central part of the state. From there head west > to Sisters on US 20. Go west from Sisters on Oregon 242, across the > McKenzie Pass - be sure to stretch your legs with a hike in the lava > fields, and view the distant mountains at the observatory. At the > western end of OR 242 turn left (west) on OR 126; take it all the way > to Florence via Eugene/Springfield. Don't forget to stop and say hi > at Harbick's General Store between McKenzie Bridge and Blue River, and > get a good meal at the Vida Cafe in Vida. You won't regret driving > these roads and meeting the fine folks in the McKenzie Valley. > Tim > McKenzie Bridge, OR > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "bbhann1" <bbhann1@y...> wrote: > > thanks for being approved to American_Road. i am trying to put > together > > a ride on my m/c from KC area to Florance OR. the first of august if > > anyone can give some good advice on touring roads from here to there > > would be of great appreciation. Was going to go to beartooth > highway, > > but i understand it will be closed through this year. thanks again > for > > acceptance and for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jennifer Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Hi Evelyn, The previous posts are basically what I would recommend as well to get you started. Also, once you are on 66, you can pick up a free Illinois Route 66 map available at various places. Off the top of my head, I know they have some in Towanda, *just* north of Normal. If you don't mind a short double back, Towanda has a neat display of Route 66 (on old 66 pavement) called Route 66 - A Geographic Journey. Here are some photos (scroll about halfway down): http://www.roadtripmemories.com/trips/illinois66.htm Route 66 in Illinois is very well-marked. You should have no trouble there, even through cities. Springfield has several alignments and all are well marked with the date of the alignment (ie, 1926 - 1930). Also available is a great book by John Weiss called "Traveling the New, Historic Route 66 in Illinois" which provides excellent details. I enjoy Illinois 66 very much. Some of my favorites south of Bloomington / Normal include: - Funk's Grove Maple Sirup - Atlanta - "Muffler Man" holding a giant hot dog, formerly of Bunyan's Hot Dogs in Cicero; also some fantastic murals of old signage and a very neat public library building - Broadwell - Ernie Edwards' Pig Hip Museum -south of Lincoln - if you are adventurous, there is a "Ghost Bridge" over Salt Creek. For the die hard road geeks, very cool. - Williamsville - there is a "dream car" museum there, but it's mainly open during the week, and early on Saturday. I have never had a chance to get there when they are open, but it looks very cool. When you are on 66 heading south, just before you need to turn right onto I-55 (for a brief stretch here you must get on the evil-I as I call the Interstate), follow what is marked as a spur of 66, and the Dream Car Museum is on the right, between this alignment of 66 and the Interstate. - Springfield - choice of alignments here as well. Bill Shea's Museum, of course, Cozy Dogs!, Lincoln Historic sites. In September, there is a big 66 Festival downtown - South of Springfield, you have a choice of 2 alignments, the old IL 4 alignment and the newer alignment, which parallels I-55. Both have their appeal and unique things to see and do -here's a small sample of my favorites: Near Raymond - Our Lady of the Highways shrine Litchfield - Ariston Cafe; Litchfield also is holding a great classic car fest each year in June right on Route 66 pavement. It was last week and was alot of fun! I took a ton of photos, but have not had a chance to post them yet. Auburn - old alignment, brick paved Hamel - Meramec Caverns Barn newly restored That's just the tip of the iceberg for what there is on 66 in Illinois, and that's only south of Bloomington! LOL Jennifer http://www.roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tim Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "bbhann1" <bbhann1@y...> wrote: > --hello Tim i have been looking at highway 20 thus also looking at 26 > is there much difference in the roads and terrain. someone told me > that i could very easily get stuck behind alot of camper trailers on > 20. not that is bad but being on a motorcycle. thanks for your > responce. keith Hi Keith, On US 20 it is very likely that you'll get stuck behind RVers and such west of Bend. To the east there are a few truckers but not many tourists; most of them head north or south on US 97. OR 242 is almost completely free of any vehicles larger than cars. It is a winding road with lots of switchbacks on both sides of McKenzie Pass. If you drive 242 you'll want to wear a good set of leathers; it's COLD up there, even in the summer, but the views and the drive are well worth it. OR 126 is fairly busy during the summer both east and west of Eugene/Springfield; it's 55 mph most of the way. It's scenic but flatter and less winding than 242. US 101 on the coast is jam-packed during the summer. Have a good trip - I envy you riding a m/c all the way from KC to Oregon. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chuck Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Tupi" <realtupi@y...> wrote: > Hi Everyone! My name is Trudi. (SNIPP) I love to travel by car; sometimes just for pleasure I look at maps and > dream of the adventures under those little blue and red lines. I > particularly enjoy the paths less followed. I'm glad to have found > fellow travelers. Hi Trudi, I'm new to the groups also and welcome. Been a new member for about a week and didn't know this many people loved the "old roads". Now I'm beginning to wonder when I drive the roads, if the other people on them are fellow travelers like me! Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darlene Petralia Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Hi all, We will be traveling to Valley Alabama Thanksgiving Weekend with a 29' Travel Trailer. If anyone has any ideas of interesting and/or scenic routes that are good side trips while hauling a trailer, we would appreciate the information. We usually start out on I-88 West to Binghamton and head south from there through PA. Would really like some ideas in PA, that would avoid that "forever and always under construction" part of I-81 from Binghamton to Harrisburg. We are new at this whole RV traveling, so nothing too difficult to manage towing. We will be coming back through Raleigh NC without the trailer, so some good driving to avoid Richmond/DC/Baltimore or just DC/Baltimore could work too. TIA, Darlene Darlene Petralia Gray Stone Cavaliers www.nenycavaliers.com Strolling Village Artisans www.strollingvillageartisans.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drivetheost Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Last Ozark Trails Marker Placed on National Register - August 13, 2004 SANTA FE -- The sole Ozark Trails marker in New Mexico? a 21-foot tall concrete tapered shaft in the middle of an intersection in Lake Arthur? was placed on the National Register of Historic Places, the New Mexico Historic Preservation Division announced today. The marker, a near obelisk except for its lack of a pyramid top, is complete with a concrete base that bears the town?s name painted in green on all four sides. From its flat top sprouts a large shepherd?s crook streetlight. It sits in the center of the desolate intersection of Main and Broadway streets in Lake Arthur, population 432, and is one of seven such remaining highway markers in the United States. One of many projects of entrepreneur William Hope Harvey, the Ozark Trails promoted tourism and highway development across the Southwest, and later influenced the course of Route 66 across Oklahoma, Texas and New Mexico. The only surviving Ozark Trails marker in New Mexico, the pyramid at Lake Arthur is a rare artifact of early highway development in New Mexico. The marker conforms to Ozark Trails Association standards established by Harvey, which specified they be constructed of reinforced concrete and of the approximate same height. Built at a cost of $250 each, Harvey envisioned a string of dozens of the markers across the country, but his plans were cut short because the markers were conceived as posing a traffic hazard. A similar marker built in Artesia was torn down after business owners circulated a petition in 1928 to have it removed. Another marker in Carlsbad met a similar fate. The Lake Arthur monument ? far from the stream of steady highway traffic ?remains largely unchanged and at its original site, although curbing and gravel recently were added to protect the marker from errant vehicles. There is no indication of how many Ozark Trails markers were actually constructed, but the remaining structures are well documented. Four survive in Texas at Tulia, Wellington, Tampico and Dimmit, and two in Oklahoma at Stroud and Langston. Each of these markers display some wear, but are still landmarks of their communities. Harvey first proposed a permanent marking of the trail at a 1918 Ozark Trails convention in Miami, Oklahoma. He envisioned a string of dozens of pyramids, stretching from Springfield, Missouri to Las Vegas, New Mexico, with a 50-foot-tall obelisk at Romeroville outside Las Vegas, designating the junction of the Ozark and the historic Santa Fe Trail. The Ozark Trails markers would influence Harvey to design a colossal concrete pyramid at his Monte Ne resort in Arkansas. Though an idealistic promoter, Harvey felt civilization was doomed and planned to construct a 130-foot tall obelisk with a 40 square-foot base containing a time capsule of items demonstrating the technological state of the time and writings that supported his opinions of the cause of civilization?s failure. Harvey predicted a cataclysmic event of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions that would sink the pyramid, so he planned a plaque for its top instructing future archaeologists to unearth the capsule. Although the pyramid never was built, and the earth largely stood still, his resort eventually was submerged during the 1960s construction of the White River Dam. The Ozark Trails, the mother of the Mother Road, played a critical role in developing east-west highways and future U.S. 66. Today evidence of the Ozark Trails is rare, and limited to a handful of pre-Route 66 road segments and the seven concrete pyramids. ### John W. Murphey drivetheost.com Southwest Auto Trails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darlene Petralia Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 oops, that should be Thanksgiving WEEK - not a trip I'd enjoy in a weekend! We will have Sunday to Sunday. Darlene Darlene Petralia Gray Stone Cavaliers www.nenycavaliers.com Strolling Village Artisans www.strollingvillageartisans.com On Aug 1, 2005, at 8:40 AM, Darlene Petralia wrote: > > Hi all, > > We will be traveling to Valley Alabama Thanksgiving Weekend with a 29' > Travel Trailer.A A If anyone has any ideas of interesting and/or scenic > routes that are good side trips while hauling a trailer, we would > appreciate the information.A A We usually start out on I-88 West to > Binghamton and head south from there through PA.A Would really like > some ideas in PA, that would avoid that > "forever and always under construction" part of I-81 from Binghamton > to > Harrisburg. > > We are new at this whole RV traveling,A so nothing too difficult to > manage towing. > > We will be coming back through Raleigh NC without the trailer,A so > some > good driving to avoid Richmond/DC/Baltimore or just DC/Baltimore could > work too. > > TIA, > Darlene > > Darlene Petralia > Gray Stone Cavaliers > www.nenycavaliers.com > Strolling Village Artisans > www.strollingvillageartisans.com > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE > 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA > 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, > send it to:A AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > a–? A Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. > A > a–? A To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > A AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > A > a–? A Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darlene Petralia Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Are there any maps that members can recommend that feature the by-ways and old cross country roads? Okay, I'm done asking questions for awhile. Thanks again, Darlene Darlene Petralia Gray Stone Cavaliers www.nenycavaliers.com Strolling Village Artisans www.strollingvillageartisans.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Ross Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Ken and Mike, Thanks for your comments on the bridge. Yes, it was built by the Rochester Bridge Company and the plaque, though cracked, was still bolted to the beam. The bridge was only used for local, rural traffic. There is a photo of it within the opening pages of "Oklahoma Route 66" and also on page 92. It was added to the Register just within the last year or so. Jim Gabbert told me he was surprised at the news, since the county commissioners actually requested a copy of the certificate when it went on the Register, as if they were proud of it. Dawn Welch told me that the Sac & Fox Tribe has been involved lately in replacing old bridges in the area. Gabbert says that sometimes Indian tribes will provide funds (from gaming, not federal money) to the counties for this purpose, since most counties don't have the money. I'm not an engineer, so I can't say how safe or unsafe it was, but they could have at least made an effort to let someone know in time to try to save it. Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest R. Droz Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Delorme's atlases are the best for showing every little road, just be sure the road is there before turning down it. -- ___________________________________________________________ Happy Motoring! _._._._.____~__ Robert V. Droz ( us98@earthlink.net ) [____________][___ U.S. Highways : From US 1 to (US 830) [________/____[_|__ http://www.us-highways.com/ ()() ()() () Route Logs - Standard Oil - Highway Makeover - Pics - Maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thehinge@magpage.com> Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 I've got a suggestion that you might like south of Harrisburg, Darlene. Use US 11 instead of I-81 in Maryland and Virginia. And just south of Winchester, Skyline Drive begins it's journey through Shenandoah National Park, too. And hey, it never goes more than twenty or thirty miles from the US 11 corridor. That sound good? Matt Smallwood On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 08:40:48 -0400 Darlene Petralia <npetrali@nycap.rr.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > We will be traveling to Valley Alabama Thanksgiving > Weekend with a 29' > Travel Trailer. If anyone has any ideas of interesting > and/or scenic > routes that are good side trips while hauling a trailer, > we would > appreciate the information. We usually start out on > I-88 West to > Binghamton and head south from there through PA. Would > really like > some ideas in PA, that would avoid that > "forever and always under construction" part of I-81 from > Binghamton to > Harrisburg. > > We are new at this whole RV traveling, so nothing too > difficult to > manage towing. > > We will be coming back through Raleigh NC without the > trailer, so some > good driving to avoid Richmond/DC/Baltimore or just > DC/Baltimore could > work too. > > TIA, > Darlene > > Darlene Petralia > Gray Stone Cavaliers > www.nenycavaliers.com > Strolling Village Artisans > www.strollingvillageartisans.com > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > <font face=arial size=-1><a > href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hoisa8i/M=36...641.1493532/D=g roups/S=1707284507:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1122907304/A=2894350/R=0/SIG=10tj5mr8v/*http:/ /www.globalgiving.com">Make > a difference. Find and fund world-changing projects at > GlobalGiving</a>.</font> > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE > 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, > Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message > via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Michael G. Koerner Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 "Rich Rheingold" <usroute20@msn.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 21:36:26 -0000 > From: "Rich Rheingold" <usroute20@msn.com> > Subject: article yellowstone trail > > I posted this to the photo's section hope you can read it. It is a > scan of a newspaper article so it's not the clearest. If anyone > wants me to e-mail it to them I can it's a little clearer to read. Do you have a web link to this article from the newspaper itself? I can't find a link on the Yahoo page to see the full resultion images of those scans. I have been doing some off and on research into the YT routing here in the Appleton, WI area as well as the rest of eastern Wisconsin. Very intersting indeed and well worth checking out. http://www.yellowstonetrail.org -- ___________________________________________ ____ _______________ Regards, | | ____ | | | | | Michael G. Koerner May they | | | | | | rise again! Appleton, Wisconsin USA | | | | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | | _______________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thehinge@magpage.com> Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 If you need smaller maps of just one byway, some maps are available at www.byways.org. It's the National Scenic By- Ways website run by the Federal Highway Administration. Definitely visit it before your trip on Thanksgiving week. You do need the Adobe Acrobat Reader to read many of the maps....visit www.adobe.com to get the Reader, and it's free. Matt Smallwood On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:41:47 -0400 "R. Droz" <us98@earthlink.net> wrote: > Delorme's atlases are the best for showing every little > road, just be sure > the road is there before turning down it. > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Happy Motoring! _._._._.____~__ > Robert V. Droz ( us98@earthlink.net ) [____________][___ > U.S. Highways : From US 1 to (US 830) > [________/____[_|__ > http://www.us-highways.com/ ()() ()() () > Route Logs - Standard Oil - Highway Makeover - Pics - > Maps > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > <font face=arial size=-1><a > href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hfs4d1i/M=36...641.1493532/D=g roups/S=1707284507:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1122910907/A=2894352/R=0/SIG=11fdoufgv/*http:/ /www.globalgiving.com/cb/cidi/tsun.html">Help > tsunami villages rebuild at GlobalGiving. The real work > starts now</a>.</font> > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE > 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, > Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message > via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephanie Hedgepath Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 It was really interesting to see the post from Darlene Petralia, who is an artist and a Cavalier King Charles breeder and exhibitor. I, too, am an artist and a dog breeder/exhibitor and judge! I do a lot of traveling, mostly flying out on weekends to judge dog shows and flying straight back again, but sometimes my husband or a good friend can travel with me and we do a little exploring along the way. My husband, Jim, and I have done several cross country trips in our van or car. We had a motor home, but that was before I was doing much judging and it was used mostly to attend dog shows. I have just subscribed to the AR magazine and look forward to getting my first copy and also to the suggestions of great backroads we can meander on our trips across this great land. Stephanie Stephanie S. Hedgepath, near the heart of South Carolina www.jimanie.com Pembroke Welsh Corgis www.strictlyanimals.com Boutique for Animal Lovers <;>>>>< Romans 8:28 <;>>>>< <;>>>>< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 This is good, lol, now I am replying to my own post. Anyhow, another note on the Durango/Four Corners Area. The highway from Monticello Utah to Cortez Colorado was only recently designated US Hwy 491. It was changed from US Hwy 666 because of the many ways people take the number 666 to mean "evil". US Hwy 491 is a beautiful route across the bean fields of southern Colorado. There are a couple of great turnouts to 1) Hovenweep National Monument and 2) Lowry Ruins. Both sites have Indian (or Native American, you choose) ancient living areas that are worthy of anybody's time. Chris --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <homiechris2000@y...> wrote: > Durango is a beautiful area. I travel there a couple times a year > from Utah for work. Friends of mine live in Hesperus and camp often > above Mancos. > > Chris > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Kasprowicz" > <marowicz@a...> wrote: > > Just a quick 'Hi' from another newcomer this time from Oxford > England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Well, that is a downer, and it was not on what would be called a heavily travelled road, so what necessitated this? There are country bridges in Southeast Missouri that make that bridge look like a major improvement (travel/safety wise)...Tsingtao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Ross" <pathfinder66@earthlink.net> To: "Michael Wallis" <wallis66@aol.com>; "Kathy Anderson" <>; "Jerry McClanahan" <jerrymc66@earthlink.net>; "Dawn Welch" <dawn@rockcaferoute66.com>; "American Road" <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 1:50 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Bridge Destruction > Howdy Folks, > > I learned from Dawn Welch at the Rock Cafe yesterday that the historic bridge on Dosie Creek near Davenport, Oklahoma has been demolished. This is a significant loss to landmark structures associated directly with the roadbed.This 1909 Warren Pony Truss bridge was (to my knowledge) the oldest existing bridge still in use anywhere on Route 66. It was recently listed on the National Register as part of a multiple property listing that also included the roadway it was on (original 66 alignment never paved) and the old Ozark Trails obelisk nearby. > > Today I made a call to Jim Gabbert at the Oklahoma SHPO, who knew nothing of the bridge's removal. It is not clear whether the county (property owner) took the bridge out using only non-federal funds or if they had assistance from the Sac & Fox Indian tribe located nearby. In any case, the SHPO was not notified of the project, which is automatic when federal jurisdiction is involved. > > If I learn anything more, I'll pass it along. > > Regards, > Jim R. > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rwarn17588 Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 I having trouble placing this bridge. Jim, is it on the south side of newer 66, near the tavern? Ron Warnick Tulsa, OK > > Thanks for your comments on the bridge. Yes, it was built by the Rochester Bridge Company and the plaque, though cracked, was still bolted to the beam. The bridge was only used for local, rural traffic. There is a photo of it within the opening pages of "Oklahoma Route 66" and also on page 92. It was added to the Register just within the last year or so. > > Jim Gabbert told me he was surprised at the news, since the county commissioners actually requested a copy of the certificate when it went on the Register, as if they were proud of it. Dawn Welch told me that the Sac & Fox Tribe has been involved lately in replacing old bridges in the area. Gabbert says that sometimes Indian tribes will provide funds (from gaming, not federal money) to the counties for this purpose, since most counties don't have the money. I'm not an engineer, so I can't say how safe or unsafe it was, but they could have at least made an effort to let someone know in time to try to save it. > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest keepitreal08628 Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 > Many, many thanks to the staff at American Road - > and to the other roadies, especially those with > pictures and tales of old 66. While, over 50 years > since my good friend and I drove it, things on Rt 66 > have changed beyond my memory to recognize I do get a > glimmer now and again. Someday I hope to do a real road trip along 66. Last year my husband and I spent time in Scottsdale AZ, and took an overnight trip up to see the Grand Canyon. We drove to a small town called Williams I believe, but we arrived at night so didn't see much of the surroundings. The next afternoon, we needed to pick up something at the grocery store, and I nearly passed out when I saw that the store, which was one block over from the hotel we stayed in, was on Route 66!!!! To date, that's the extent of my travels on it. This weekend, I attended a quilt convention in Hershey, PA. There are classes, exhibits and vendors at these conventions...and among other goodies, I happened upon a yard of Route 66 fabric!!!! I was in heaven! Rita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shellee Graham Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Please forward to your sculptor / public art friends.... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: NM public ART project PRESS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Joy Poole, NM State Monuments September 24, 2003 Cultural Corridors: Public Art on Scenic Highways New Mexico State Monuments and the Camino Real International Heritage Center announce a Competition for the Commission of an Artwork for the Historic El Camino Real. DEADLINE for Submission: December 1, 2003 PROSPECTUS available: www.nm.blm.gov The Artwork Selection Committee seeks to commission a U.S. artist To create a towering, welcoming landmark. The artwork could reflect American Indian and Hispanic cultures, Hispanic and Anglo traders, or celebrate el Camino Real - at one time the longest south to north international trail Of commerce. The artwork site is 35 miles south of Socorro, NM near the junction of NM Highway 1 and the entrance road to El Camino Real International Heritage Center. The project amount is $101,000 and includescosts for design, construction, insurance and taxes. A complete prospectus can be downloaded from www.nm.blm.gov contact Joy Poole at 505-854-3600 or cell phone 505-310-0105. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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