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October 1, 2004

I spent 1959 t0 July 1976 (after a year in the

Marine reserve and 4 years in the Navy) in the outfit

that takes care of the jarheads - the Coast Guard.

LOL

Hudsonly,

Alex B

--- jim <jim@cart66pf.org> wrote:

> Yo Bro,

>

> So another jarhead is a roadie too. I love it!

>

> Are you aware that there are many of us on the road?

> Michael Wallis to name

> one. I was in from 57 to 65.

>

> So stay in touch,

>

> James M. Conkle

> CEO

> Route 66 Preservation Foundation

> P O Box 290066

> Phelan, CA 92329-0066

> 760 617 3991 cell

> 760 868 3320

> 760 868 8614 fax

> jim@cart66pf.org

> www.cart66pf.org

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: big_ugly_mich@yahoo.com

> [mailto:big_ugly_mich@yahoo.com]

> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 9:38 AM

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Our awesome Sunday

> Arizona Drive

>

> Isn't that the truth? Back in 1979, when I was in

> the Marine Corps in

> Cherry Point, North Carolina, we got blasted with 18

> inches

> overnight. I never saw so much as a flake in the

> three years plus

> that I was there, and Milwaukee, my home town, got

> NONE (although it

> was bitter cold that year).

>

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Glenn

> <glenninvegas@j...> wrote:

> >

> > Alex, Be careful where you go to escape the snow.

> I have posted

> some pix of the "Great Las Vegas Snow" last week at

> the site below.

> We got 2 inches and it actually lasted for a few

> hours.

> >

> > Glenn Adams

> > glenninvegas@j...

> > http://www.lasvegasregion.com

> >

> > -- Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...> wrote:

> > As winter presses on, we find stories like this

> a

> > torture - those of us who live up north in the

> frost

> > belt. Cabin fever is beginning to set in and we

> know,

> > especially us New Englanders (unless we have fled

> the

> > snow country), have another 3, 4 or maybe 5,

> months of

> > this interminable snow. Only way we are going to

> get

> > out and do a road trip is with a 4wd truck,

> chains,

> > winch, credit card and AAA!!!

> >

> > When we read these stories, ah, we long for

> summer

> > weather.

> >

> > I mentioned some of us fled the snow country -

> I'm

> > sitting here in Memphis, it's 37 degrees and

> overcast

> > - but THERE'S NO DAMNED SNOW ON THE GROUND!!!!!

> So

> > we're going to get out of the house in a day or

> two

> > and explore some of the roads around here - at

> least

> > finish up with the Millington - Memphis segment.

> Next

> > week we'll be headed for West Arkansas to visit a

> > buddy - if we time it right, maybe we'll run old U

> S

> > 70 between Little Rock and Memphis on the way

> back.

> >

> > See you on the road sometime. Happy Traveling

> >

> > Hudsonly,

> > Alex B

> >

> > --- Nicole <arizona66nms@y...> wrote:

> > > Hi all-

> > >

> > > I've been itchin' and itchin' and itchin' to hit

> the

> > > road these past couple of months. I moved out

> here

> > > to do exactly that, and it seems as though it's

> the

> > > last thing I get to do these days!

> > >

> > > So instead of sleeping till the crack of noon on

> > > Sundays like we normally do....we were up and

> going

> > > at 9:00 a.m. this past Sunday, and my first

> thought

> > > was "oh my gosh....we GOTTA go somewhere!!"

> After

> > > hearing grumblings about Sunday football and

> "I'm

> > > still tired" from Kevin we got ready and hopped

> in

> > > the car and pulled out the map, and picked

> Sedona.

> > > (He doesn't like it when I threaten to wander

> off on

> > > the road on my own! ha ha!!) Well, of course we

> > > couldn't take the superslab all the way

> > > there.....that would take away from the whole

> > > purpose of taking the trip in the first place.

> So

> > > we left Bullhead City around 10 and hit Highway

> 68

> > > on through Kingman (gas is no longer cheaper

> there

> > > like it used to be....in case any of you were

> > > passing through figuring on gassing up there),

> and

> > > hit I-40 until Ash Fork, then went South on

> through

> > > Paulden, Chino Valley and touching the tip of

> > > Prescott till we forked off on 89-A.....on

> through

> > > Jerome, Camp Verde, Cottonwood, and finally

> Sedona.

> > > I

> > > absolutely LOVE that road. The windy, steep,

> > > relaxing, and unbelievably scenic mountain road

> that

> > > takes you there is really something else. I

> highly

> > > recommend it for anyone traveling through

> Arizona

> > > looking for a great road adventure.

> > >

> > > The higher up we went in elevation, the more

> patches

> > > of snow you'd see. I miss the snow, and it's

> nice

> > > to see it once in a while. I sure do appreciate

> it

> > > more than I did before. Not to mention the over

> > > abundance of green trees surrounding you as you

> take

> > > this route. There is a spot along the road,

> just

> > > before Jerome where the view can make one go off

> the

> > > road if you aren't careful. It's so

> > > awesome......you're up in the mountains,

> surrounded

> > > by forest, and nothing but green.....and in

> front of

> > > you way off in the distance is BAM.....the most

> > > beautiful view of Red Rock country you'd ever

> see.

> > > Just like at Sunset Crater north of Flagstaff

> when

> > > you go over the bend while you're in the middle

> of

> > > the forest, and in front of you is the Painted

> > > Desert. Two terrains meeting as one, and the

> most

> > > beautiful thing ever. It's COLD right now in

> these

> > > parts, so I made sure to bring along the winter

> > > coats and gloves (which Kevin laughed at me for

> > > until we hit Sedona and started whining about

> > > how cold it was). I also knew we'd be topping

> out

> > > at Flag on the way home....and Flag is pretty

> much

> > > Michigan with mountains right now, so I knew we

> had

> > > to be prepared! So we mosey on down 89-A,

> through

> > > Jerome, which we didn't make any stops at....and

> I

> > > keep saying I have to get there and do some

> > > exploring. What a cool little town that is. It

> was

> > > too cold to do anything extensive in the

> outdoors

> > > there, so I am determined to get back there this

>

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October 1, 2004

Hi all-

I believe I made an error in my post about our drive last Sunday. In

fact.....I'm surprised that not one of you educated roadies caught it yet!!

Usually any errors are corrected immediately! ;-)

I said we went through Jerome, Camp Verde, Cottonwood, and Sedona. I believe

Camp Verde is accessible on I-17, say if you were heading north from Phoenix,

before taking the 89-A exit to Sedona. I meant to say Verde Valley, not Camp

Verde. Although close in proximity, and close in name......I believe it's Verde

Valley that runs along 89-A after Jerome rather than Camp Verde.

Just had to correct myself-

Nicole

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October 2, 2004

----- Original Message -----

From: "Scott Piotrowski" <rt66prods@yahoo.com>

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:35 PM

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Southwest Museum in Peril (long)

> I've posted to both Route 66 groups to which I am member, but I felt

> that this needed posted here as well. I apologize to everyone who

> gets this two or three (or more) times!

>

> Recently, the members of the Board of Trustees of the Southwest

> Museum (www.southwestmuseum.org) in Highland Park, California, voted

> to begin an operational partnership with the Autry Museum of Western

> Heritage. Unfortunately, that may lead to the closure of the

> Southwest Museum and moving its collections to the Autry.

>

> For those of you who do not know about the Southwest Museum, it has

> been in operation for almost 100 years, and is located just off of

> Figueroa (Route 66) in Highland Park, near Sycamore Grove Park. It

> has one of the most comprehensive collections of Native American

> artifacts in the United States. The Southwest Museum opened in 1907

> and is the oldest museum in Los Angeles. It is also a Los Angeles

> City Historical Landmark. It is that city landmark status that will

> help us in the battle to keep the Southwest Museum open.

>

> We have very active preservationists in the Highland Park Heritage

> Trust and Los Angeles Conservancy working to save this important

> piece of American history. It looks like we might be needing more. So

> I ask that each and every member of this list please get those pens

> and paper out (or I'll settle for an email or word processor and

> printer!) and get ready to send letters to the groups listed below. I

> assure you that these letters will definitely get passed on from the

> Conservancy and HPHT.

>

> Highland Park Heritage Trust

> PO Box 50894

> Los Angeles, CA 90050-0894

> (Their website is www.hpht.org, but the email is currently down.)

>

> Los Angeles Conservancy

> 523 W. Sixth St.

> Suite 826

> Los Angeles, CA 90014

> info@l...

> www.laconservancy.org

>

> The Autry Museum of Western Heritage

> 4700 Western Heritage Way

> Los Angeles, CA 90027-1462

> (I do not have a specific name to send to at the Autry Museum.)

>

> At this point, the battle is being waged mostly within Los Angeles.

> So, for now, please only contact the following City and County

> representatives that represent the district:

>

> Los Angeles City Councilman Antonio Villaraigosa

> 200 N. Spring Street

> Room 425

> Los Angeles, CA 90012

>

> Los Angeles County Supervisor Gloria Molina

> 856 Kenneth Hahn Hall of Administration

> 500 West Temple Street

> Los Angeles, CA 90012

> molina@b...

>

> Los Angeles Mayor James K. Hahn

> 200 North Spring Street

> Room 303

> Los Angeles, CA 90012

> MayorHahn@mayor.lacity.org

>

> Please also send copies of any letters to me, preferably via email.

> I want to make certain, when we do have to attend City Council and

> County Supervisor Meetings, that I am armed with the support of all

> my friends and family along America's Historic Roads.

>

> Additionally, the Friends of the Southwest Museum Coalition, made up

> of a variety of preservation organizations and local interest groups,

> has finally made some headway with the Autry Museum of Western

> Heritage. (The Autry and Southwest Museums have merged, and the

> Autry is taking over control of the Southwest.) Unfortunately, the

> headway that has been made only includes the opportunity to meet with

> the Autry board. At this time, no decision on the fate of the

> Southwest Museum has been made.

>

> The Friends of the Southwest Museum Coalition, as mentioned, is made

> up of a long list of organizations that is interested in saving the

> Museum. Now is the time to add our various Historic Roads groups to

> that list. I'm sending out personal emails to a few groups later

> today. In the meantime, anyone who is involved in a preservation

> organization of any kind, ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, please consider

> joining this group. If you are interested, please email me OFF LIST

> so that I can forward that information to you.

>

> Thank you, everyone, for your time and continued support of

> preservation across the route and around the world!

>

> Scott Piotrowski, Director

> 66 Productions

> www.66productions.com

>

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October 2, 2004

Old maps are fun to collect, share, trade or even sell once in while! I have

about 5 or 6 pre-US Highway maps (old trails maps). They are in excellent shape

and it is nice to see some routes that the US Route Numbered Highways went!

MAPS tell us a lot of history and I think its nice to go back it time for a

moment!

George a fervent supporter and advit student of the US Highway System

Alex Burr <hester_nec@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mailman trudged thru ice and snow here in the icebox today and

delivered a couple of my recent ebay purchases.

First was a small U S highway map from 1940 - great item to take out

and look at. Appears to have come from some sort of large b&w atlas,

similar to the 1937 Memphis street map I got a little ways back.

The other was a collection of state road maps dating from the 1930's

to the 1970's. Of note:

Bay Petroleum Company - Nebraska, 1950 (this is one I've never heard

of before);

Conoco - Arkansas - 1940's (shows a small map of Mempis with U S 61,

64, 70, 79 and 63 crossing the Hernando Bridge - so 63 did go into

Memphis at one time);

Conoco - Ohio - 1940's; Iowa - 1950's; Oklahoma - early 1950's

Sinclair - Kansas - late 1933, early 1934 (according to census

date);

Gulf - Colorado-Nebraska-Wyoming - 1936 (census date);

Philips 66 - Wisconsin - 1936 (census date);

Gulf - Pennsylvania - late 1930's (PA turnpike not shown);

Those are the oldies (to me anyway). There was also a AAA

Texas-Oklahoma 1966-1967 issue and a Standard Nebraska with a 1960

census date.

Lot of fun pouring over all these old maps and seeing the U S before

it was bound up in the Interstates.

Happy Traveling.

Hudsonly,

Alex B

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October 2, 2004

Thanks Mike for the information! I love collecting maps and atlases! I have

few old trail maps, US highway maps, and Road atlases ( like my 1954 road

atlas). Also, World Atlases as well, such as my 1894 world atlas.

George a fervent supporter and advit student of the US Route Numbered Highway

System.

Mike Ward <flyboy1946@hotmail.com> wrote:

Those interested in old road maps should take a look at the web site for the

Road Map Collectors Association at www.roadmaps.org<http://www.roadmaps.org/>.

There's a wealth of information there, even for non-members.

There's also a yahoo e-group for road map/atlas aficionados at

andatlases/>

Mike Ward

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From: William Cashman<mailto:theoakman@theriver.com>

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Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 2:30 PM

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Old Road Maps

----- Original Message -----

From: Alex Burr

<First was a small U S highway map from 1940 - great item to take out

<and look at. Appears to have come from some sort of large b&w atlas,

<similar to the 1937 Memphis street map I got a little ways back.

<The other was a collection of state road maps dating from the 1930's

<to the 1970's. Of note:

My one and only old map is a Shell Oil map of South Central United States,

circa 1957. On the back is a smaller US map. The only "freeways" are some of the

turnpikes.

Are you doing anything to preserve the old maps? Mine is still in pretty

good shape and I'd sure like to keep it that way....

Cya l8r,

Bill

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----- Original Message -----

From: jim

Sorry about that what I meant was he used to own Hackberry's. He now owns

property in the Southeast corner of Arizona. As well as a place back in

Springfield, ILL.

Yes.....that's my area......Sierra Vista, Bisbee, Hereford......and a little

farther away..... Benson, Tombstone, Douglas.....

I hope you can still tell me if he's here and how I might reach him.....we

have a lot of snowbirds in the area......

Cya l8r,

Bill

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October 3, 2004

I got the book and thank you so much! I can't find the email I got as to how

much I owe you...please advise and I will forward fundage ASAP...Tsingtao, Kip

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Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:28 PM

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] U. S. 40 Today

If anyone wants more info. about the U. S. 40 Today book I put up a

one page website - go to:

www.lincolnhighway.info

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October 3, 2004

Well-looks like the trip may be longer than first figured. So far

I'm into Missouri, jast past Springfield-and I'm already into the

16th day.

The planning evolved into 100-150 miles per day, allowing plenty of

time to stop along the way. The groups will depart between 9 and

9:30, with rendezvous planned for 6pm at the next overnight stop.

Once I finish the planning for the route, the maps will be posted

using Adobe PDF 5.1 at the Thunder on 66 egroup:

I would really appreciate feedback on the route maps-and any places

you think I should stop, email me with the approximate location or

the address, please, so I can add them to the map.

October 3, 2004

I'm trying to catch up on mail and that includes the latest AR

magazine. Another great job with neat surprises on every page.

As someone who once lived on and under the 3C Highway, Frank

Brusca's article immediately caught my eye. Good to read about

something in my neighborhood and, not surprisingly, Frank was able

to teach me plenty about this "familiar" route. The 3C was part of

my 2001 C2C2C (http://www.dennygibson.com/C2C2C) but I see that my

coverage (days 4 & 5) was a bit skimpy.

Frank, I'm still just about one block off of the 3C (US22/OH3) so

you could have stopped by for coffee on one of your research runs.

Thanks for shining some light on one of the lesser known named

highways.

October 3, 2004

Nice trip. The car-bike combination give you a mix of ground

covering ability & intimate visits that's kind of rare. My own bike

rides go driveway-to-driveway rather than coast-to-coast. I liked

the "artist of the day" thing, too. But I am wondering, with your

obvious interest in music and a ride that came fairly close to

Austin, why no visit to the self proclaimed "Live Music Capital of

the World"?

BTW, I've requested an account at the mob-rule county site. Looks

like fun. Just hope it doesn't twist future travels too much;-)

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Johnsen" <dcjcycle@e...>

wrote:

> I recently web-published a journal and photos from my road trip to

Texas

> last March. I drove thousands of miles through the Lone Star

State, covering

> all but the northern panhandle. En route, I collected 220 counties

and did

> five bike rides. My journal also pays tribute to Texas musicians

along the

> way.

>

> http://www.djwriter.com/cycling/tx2003/index.html

>

> --Dave Johnsen

> Chicago, IL

October 3, 2004

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October 4, 2004

The Indiana National Road Association has produced an outstanding

Driving Tour Guide which highlights many historic stops along the

156 miles of the National Road in the Hoosier State. The National

Road in Indiana was designated State Scenic Byway status in 1996,

National Scenic Byway status in 1998, and the entire National Road

was designated an All-American Road in 2002.

Highlighted in the guide are 28 sites between Richmond and Terre

Haute, including The Madonna of the Trail in Richmond, Trump's

Texaco Museum in Knightstown, White River State Park in Indianapolis

(featuring the 1916 bridge which carried National Road/US 40

travelers), The Diner in Plainfield, which was mentioned in Frank

Brusca's feature in the latest AR (My dad & I highly recommend the

Roast Beef Manhattan), and a restored 1931 gas station at Rose-

Hulman University in Terre Haute.

I traveled the National Road last Saturday from the west side of

Indianapolis to just over the Illinois border. Hats off to the INRA!

The signage is some of the best (from an accuracy standpoint) for an

historic road I've seen...comparable to that of Route 66 in

Illinois. Thanks to the guide and signage, I found some ancient

sections of NR I never knew existed.

For more info and a guide, contact the INRA at:

(765) 478-3172

or write:

Indiana National Road Association

P.O. Box 284

Cambridge City, IN 47327

They have a website, but it's not up yet: www.indiananationalroad.org

You can also join the association for as little as $5.

Regards,

Pat Bremer

Speedway, IN

http://roadtripmemories.com

October 4, 2004

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to post and let all of you know that the Illinois Route 66

Association has the information on their web site about the 2004 Motor tour.

Starts in St Louis and ends in Chicago this year. Last year over 185 cars

participated. What a great time.

For information you can go to their web site

http://www.il66assoc.org/

Enjoy

Bill Kruser

October 4, 2004

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Rudyard Welborn"

<r.Welborn@w...> wrote:

> We stopped at the National Road Welcome Center in Richmond a

couple of years

> back..they have some good info and a brochure of a driving tour of

the

> National Road in Eastern Indiana (just off I-70; Exit 156A)...and

while you

> are at it, if you are cruisin the road west, keep going through

> Illinois...the road is very well marked and there is all sorts of

things to

> see and do and places to eat! Tsingtao, Kip

The welcome center in Richmond is a great source of travel info as

well as some US 40 merchandise which is slowly coming on the scene.

I frequently take 40 through IL while on my way to St. Louis....good

drive with little traffic. Jennifer took some pics along 40 in IL

last fall on the way back home:

http://www.roadtripmemories.com/trips/mo_il2003.htm

I'm heading out to Tulsa in 2 weeks & will be looking for a good

breakfast spot somewhere between here & St. Louis...any suggestions??

Pat

October 4, 2004

Happy Easter Fellow Roadie Friends!

Have some great news for everyone! The U.S. Postal Service has

without hesitation approved two very fine official pictorial

postmarks commemorating the Tulsa Route 66 International Festival AND

the renaming/dedication of Tulsa's 11th Street Bridge!!! Q:)

Be sure to collect these two postmarks before they are historically

lost in time!

Would like to mention that the postmark artworks were created by our

own group member Carolyn Hasenfratz (Jeep Girl)! She really did

justice coming up with some great postmarks to memorialize the events!

A BIG Thank You goes out to Carolyn for the giving of her time and

talents to provide all of us and the general public worldwide, a

great and collectable piece of Route 66 history! Thanks Carolyn!

I have upload pictures of the two forementioned postmarks into our

E-Group files section at:

<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/route66/files>

The files are titled:

66 Postmark - Tulsa Festival.doc

66 Postmark - Tulsa Bridge.doc

The postmarks will be available during at the festival at the mobile

post office booth. If you cannot be at the event to collect the

postmark, you may do so by gathering up your items that you wish to

be postmarked (books, postcards, maps, memorabilia, etc,...just about

anything that can bear a 37 cent stamp and have a postmark applied

onto), and mail them before 30 days after the event(s) date with the

proper amount of return postage to:

Postmaster

P.O. Box 9998

Tulsa, Oklahoma 74103

Hope to see ya'll at the event and out on the open road.

God Bless and Happy Trails.

the landrunner

<http://www.postmarkart.com/links.htm>

October 5, 2004

Shellee whats the update on the coral court video are we going to be able to buy

it, or what? Keep us informed. I'd sure like to have a copy of it. Fred

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From: Shellee Graham

To: American Road Egroup

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 5:30 PM

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] The morons of Marlboro & Razing of La Casa Grande/

Route 66Motels

RE: Razing of La Casa Grande Motel on Watson Road, Route 66

Hi Route 66 friends,

If anyone is interested in addressing the

morons of Marlboro (aka the village idiots,

I do not even capitalize moron or spell

their town Marlborough correctly...)

Here is the info -

Village of Marlborough - Population: 2,235

------------------------------------------------------

7826 Wimbledon Drive

Marlborough, MO 63119-5405

Phone 314/962-5055

Chairman of Trustees

---------------------

Riordan L. Timmons (quoted in the STL Post-Dispatch)

Board of Trustees

------------------

Roy Bornmueller

Ruth H. Elloit (that's how it's spelled in the directory...)

Charles Harr

Elizabeth M. Mohr

------------------------------------------

Sorry, CAN'T FIND EMAIL addresses yet...

Thanks.

Shellee Graham

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Brusca" <frank@k...>

wrote:

> Sorry about the cross posting.

>

> I need an authoritative source that explains how Californians

(well,

> mostly Californians) refer to the Interstates as THE Eighty, or THE

> Five, or THE Fifteen. THE Whatever!

>

> I thought it kind of interesting that Texan Larry McMurtry refers

to

> highways this way in his book Roads - shows he's spent some time in

> Hollywood!

>

> Frank Brusca

>

Just got back from our first road trip through California, and I too

was fascinated by this. I also found the use of the word "freeway"

interesting. As a lifelong midwesterner, we just don't refer to

roads in this manner. We have expressways, tollways, Interstates,

highways, turnpikes, routes, but we just don't have "freeways."

In Chicago, the interstates are referred to as "I-90", "I-290", etc.

However, if an expressway has been named locally in addition to its

numerical designation, then it might be referred to as "The

Kennedy," "The Eisenhower", and so on. But NEVER, "The 90".

Also, when it comes to following U.S. or Illinois state highways

through Chicago, don't bother asking a Chicagoan for directions.

With the possible exception of US 41 down Lake Shore Drive,

Chicagoans have no concept of numbered routes running down their

streets. If you get lost and run into the corner gas station to

ask, "how do I get back on U.S. 12 westbound?" you will get a blank

stare and a mystified shrug of the shoulders. Streets are referred

to by name ONLY--Irving Park Road, Elston Avenue, Western Avenue,

Clybourn, 35th Street, Roosevelt Road. Its as if the route number

signs posted on the corners are completely invisible to the natives.

Dave Clark

October 5, 2004

David,

You made me chuckle. You're right of course but it

made me chuckle. I didn't know as a kid growing up

that the Dan Ryan had a route number at all. Then when

I did find out it was East and West I-94 that mixed me

up even more, because here it runs north and south.

Simply didn't make sense to a young girl.

Kath

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October 5, 2004

I would also appreciate you putting me on the list for the documentary. Tom

October 5, 2004

Just found out that my computer has the KLETZ virus. This

particular virus sends or tries to send emails to everyone in my

address book and is now trying to contact some or all of you folks on

this board.

Soooo....I'll be visiting my local computer store to buy an anti-

virus program which my web supporter says will solve the problem.

Thought the computer came equipped with the anti-virus feature but my

system tools program says there's a "driver" missing. Anyway, if you

receive any weird emails from my address please be advised I'm trying

to resolve the problem.

Cruisin',

Bliss

October 5, 2004

--- Kathy Miller <kath708@yahoo.com> wrote:

> David,

> You made me chuckle. You're right of course but it

> made me chuckle. I didn't know as a kid growing up

> that the Dan Ryan had a route number at all. Then when

> I did find out it was East and West I-94 that mixed me

> up even more, because here it runs north and south.

> Simply didn't make sense to a young girl.

> Kath

> Illinois, Where the road begins!

In Dallas/Ft. Worth its just insane. Listening to the traffic reports on the

radio is a hoot. There is a backup on northbound I-35 EAST, a wreck on

southbound I-35 WEST, and construction on eastboad Northwest Highway.

Then of course we have freeways named for dead people so out-of-towners have

no idea where they are, or how to find them. There is the Tom Landry,

Woodall Rodgers, Stemmons, RL Thornton, Marvin D. Love, LBJ, CF Hawn, Walton

Walker - and those are just the FREEways! Not to mention like every other

metropolis, city, town, community, neighborhood and wide-spot-in-the-road of

America - Big D. has their MARTIN LUTHER KING Boulevard... BUT, we also have

a MALCOLM X Blvd! Yee haw -- we got all the bases covered!

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October 5, 2004

That is why I like where I live..It is very simple. Go 2 miles east, turn right

at the Jone's place. ( Of course, the Jones haven't lived there in 30 years and

there have been 4 families that have lived there since.); head down to the the

Smith's, that is the house that needs painting and the screeen door is missing;

make another right just pass the bridge, just don't forget to latch the gate

back after you go through.

I think you get the idea.

dona

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Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 4:52 AM

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Highway Nicknames

Just got back from our first road trip through California, and I too

was fascinated by this. I also found the use of the word "freeway"

interesting. As a lifelong midwesterner, we just don't refer to

roads in this manner. We have expressways, tollways, Interstates,

highways, turnpikes, routes, but we just don't have "freeways."

In Chicago, the interstates are referred to as "I-90", "I-290", etc.

However, if an expressway has been named locally in addition to its

numerical designation, then it might be referred to as "The

Kennedy," "The Eisenhower", and so on. But NEVER, "The 90".

Also, when it comes to following U.S. or Illinois state highways

through Chicago, don't bother asking a Chicagoan for directions.

With the possible exception of US 41 down Lake Shore Drive,

Chicagoans have no concept of numbered routes running down their

streets. If you get lost and run into the corner gas station to

ask, "how do I get back on U.S. 12 westbound?" you will get a blank

stare and a mystified shrug of the shoulders. Streets are referred

to by name ONLY--Irving Park Road, Elston Avenue, Western Avenue,

Clybourn, 35th Street, Roosevelt Road. Its as if the route number

signs posted on the corners are completely invisible to the natives.

Dave Clark

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