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any time you enter the intersection on green, I would

 

think you should have the legal right to exit the

 

intersection without backing up.--just my thought, i'm

 

not a judge. john w

 

--- Harmon <harmon@mvn.net> wrote:

 

 

 

> In IL when you are making a left turn and are within

 

> the intersection when the light turns yellow, it is

 

> legal to conclude your turn when the light turns to

 

> red and it's safe to do so. Is IL unique, or is

 

> that the case elsewhere (like ABQ), too?

 

>

 

> Bob

 

>

 

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

 

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>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Wow--Is this turning into a "one-up" type of post to

 

try to describe the most gruesome? Try fire, or

 

airplane crash--or the recent "be-headings" posted

 

from the barbaric countries--who needs it!! I'll be

 

back when we get back to enjoying our great country

 

and its great roads! I, too, have been witness to

 

slaughter but don't feel the need to ease my pain by

 

describing it to others. John w

 

 

 

--- ken <stokerk@ticon.net> wrote:

 

 

 

> Group,

 

>

 

> Well,........I use to drive long haul years ago. I

 

> do agree that with anyone caught while under the

 

> influence should get their vehicles

 

> impounded/confiscated!

 

>

 

> But there are those times at light signals where the

 

> light changes so fast that you just may have to make

 

> a quick decision on whether or not to keep going

 

> through the signal. I always try to be prepared for

 

> this to happen, But sometimes you just have to keep

 

> going when you get to the "point of no return" for

 

> safety's sake!

 

>

 

> I can see though that if it were a clearly

 

> intentional type of red light running. Then by all

 

> means it's time to impound or what ever action is

 

> necesary! It just may be one of us that gets our

 

> very own lives taken by someone running a red light

 

> well after it has changed!

 

>

 

> Also just a little of my encounter input; Being on

 

> the road I have been to countless fatal accidents.

 

>

 

> The one that stands out the most in my memory was on

 

> Easter Sunday morning 1990 or 1991.(the year is a

 

> little foggy in my mind, but the day is hard to

 

> forget)

 

> I was going from Milwaukee Wi. to the Los Angeles

 

> Ca. area with a load of equipment & supplies.

 

> There were 7 trucks in our group rolling southbound

 

> at roughly 7 am Mountain Time Zone together

 

> chatting on the CB radio.

 

> We were on I-15 in Utah about a hundred miles or so

 

> south of Salt Lake City UT..

 

> I always had a mounted Scanner in my rig so I could

 

> get the weather etc. so I could make a decision

 

> while enroute whether to change my routing to avoid

 

> serious snow storms, bad weather & or to learn of

 

> any road closings due to accidents shutting down the

 

> roadway ahead! In fact we all had them. Also

 

> listening in to aircraft was nice to pass the time

 

> rolling through the mountains.

 

>

 

> Well anyways, As we were rolling along we heard a

 

> conversation between an officer & dispatcher. Then

 

> we came upon the accident scene that was being

 

> broadcasted. The car was a big blue 4 door laying on

 

> its side in the middle of the interstate lanes of

 

> travel. A drunk driver was going the wrong way in

 

> the northbound lanes. They had colided head on. They

 

> were on their way to Grandmothers house for Easter

 

> Sunday.

 

> Well as we listened in we could hear children crying

 

> in the background, The officer was weeping too &

 

> mentioned that they were headed to Grandmothers

 

> house for Easter Sunday & he said that he didn't

 

> know what to tell the children, The dispatcher was

 

> at a loss too! ..............Just what do you say to

 

> someone who just lost their "MOTHER" due to some

 

> jackass! who had a few too many! Especially on a day

 

> such as this!

 

>

 

> I've been to many fatal red light running & under

 

> the influence accident scenes!

 

>

 

> Maybe if some of you out there were to see people

 

> with missing heads, limbs,& very badly mutalated

 

> bodies like I have seen in my travels. You'd

 

> probably change your mind about many law issues!

 

>

 

> Sometimes I don't know how the law enforcement

 

> officers do it due to selfish sensless acts

 

> mentioned!

 

>

 

> Just wanted to add my view about the issue so I'll

 

> just leave it at that!

 

>

 

> I'm glad to see posts from both sides of this issue!

 

> Conversation Right? No Flames intended on my part!

 

>

 

> Thanks again for a very good site!

 

>

 

> Be Safe & "Happy Trails"

 

>

 

> Ken, Wisconsin

 

>

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: Milana Wells

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 10:34 AM

 

> Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: An open letter to

 

> Mayor Chavez of Albuquerque, New Mexico

 

>

 

>

 

> I might just add that I've spent a lot of time in

 

> Albuquerque and the rest of New Mexico, and I've

 

> never had trouble trouble with the traffic

 

> authorities.

 

>

 

> But then, I don't drive when under the influence,

 

> and I don't run red lights.

 

>

 

> It just broke my heart a few years ago when I

 

> sweet young woman I knew, a person everyone who knew

 

> her loved, was killed by a drunken driver. He was

 

> driving in the wrong lane on a road with a divider,

 

> and hit her car headon. (And he was an illegal

 

> alien, too).

 

>

 

> New Mexico has good reason to be strict about

 

> traffic regulations. (And I'm not advocating

 

> unconstitutional measures -- but New York City was

 

> confiscating accused DUI drivers' cars, on Mayor

 

> Rudi Giuliani's orders).

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Fred Moore <texasfred@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

> To those who are worried:

 

> Worry no more a State Judge ruled the

 

> impounding as

 

> unconsttutinal so the law will not be able to take

 

> your vehicle. Just trying to keep you up to date.

 

> Former New Mexico Resident and soon to return for

 

> the

 

> Balloon Fiesta in Albuquerque

 

>

 

> Fred Moore

 

> PS:

 

> Love this group

 

>

 

> --- "David G. Clark"

 

> <dave@windycityroadwarrior.com>

 

> wrote:

 

>

 

> >

 

> > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com,

 

> "milana_wells"

 

> > <milana_wells@y...> wrote:

 

> > > Both DWI and running red lights KILL innocent

 

> > people.

 

> > >

 

> > > New Mexico has one of the worst DWI problems

 

> in

 

> > the nation. They

 

> > > have a reason to be strict.

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > STRICT is one thing--there is nothing wrong with

 

> > strict enforcement

 

> > and strong prosecution of DWI and red light

 

> laws.

 

> >

 

> > But impounding cars without due process goes

 

> beyond

 

> > STRICT. This

 

> > ventures into the area of POLICE STATE. Let's

 

> all go

 

> > back to the U.S.

 

> > Constitution and remember why the founders

 

> thought

 

> > that separation of

 

> > powers was a good idea. The Police, who arrest

 

> > suspects, serve an

 

> > executive/administrative function. The Courts,

 

> who

 

> > judge the evidence

 

> > concerning arrested suspects, serve the judicial

 

> > function. Let's keep

 

> > it that way!

 

> >

 

> > Dave Clark

 

> > Windy City Road Warrior

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

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As long as politicians, law makers, lawyers, etc,

 

drink the drunk driving laws will continue to be lax.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- ken <stokerk@ticon.net> wrote:

 

 

 

> Group,

 

>

 

> Well,........I use to drive long haul years ago. I

 

> do agree that with anyone caught while under the

 

> influence should get their vehicles

 

> impounded/confiscated!

 

>

 

> But there are those times at light signals where the

 

> light changes so fast that you just may have to make

 

> a quick decision on whether or not to keep going

 

> through the signal. I always try to be prepared for

 

> this to happen, But sometimes you just have to keep

 

> going when you get to the "point of no return" for

 

> safety's sake!

 

>

 

> I can see though that if it were a clearly

 

> intentional type of red light running. Then by all

 

> means it's time to impound or what ever action is

 

> necesary! It just may be one of us that gets our

 

> very own lives taken by someone running a red light

 

> well after it has changed!

 

>

 

> Also just a little of my encounter input; Being on

 

> the road I have been to countless fatal accidents.

 

>

 

> The one that stands out the most in my memory was on

 

> Easter Sunday morning 1990 or 1991.(the year is a

 

> little foggy in my mind, but the day is hard to

 

> forget)

 

> I was going from Milwaukee Wi. to the Los Angeles

 

> Ca. area with a load of equipment & supplies.

 

> There were 7 trucks in our group rolling southbound

 

> at roughly 7 am Mountain Time Zone together

 

> chatting on the CB radio.

 

> We were on I-15 in Utah about a hundred miles or so

 

> south of Salt Lake City UT..

 

> I always had a mounted Scanner in my rig so I could

 

> get the weather etc. so I could make a decision

 

> while enroute whether to change my routing to avoid

 

> serious snow storms, bad weather & or to learn of

 

> any road closings due to accidents shutting down the

 

> roadway ahead! In fact we all had them. Also

 

> listening in to aircraft was nice to pass the time

 

> rolling through the mountains.

 

>

 

> Well anyways, As we were rolling along we heard a

 

> conversation between an officer & dispatcher. Then

 

> we came upon the accident scene that was being

 

> broadcasted. The car was a big blue 4 door laying on

 

> its side in the middle of the interstate lanes of

 

> travel. A drunk driver was going the wrong way in

 

> the northbound lanes. They had colided head on. They

 

> were on their way to Grandmothers house for Easter

 

> Sunday.

 

> Well as we listened in we could hear children crying

 

> in the background, The officer was weeping too &

 

> mentioned that they were headed to Grandmothers

 

> house for Easter Sunday & he said that he didn't

 

> know what to tell the children, The dispatcher was

 

> at a loss too! ..............Just what do you say to

 

> someone who just lost their "MOTHER" due to some

 

> jackass! who had a few too many! Especially on a day

 

> such as this!

 

>

 

> I've been to many fatal red light running & under

 

> the influence accident scenes!

 

>

 

> Maybe if some of you out there were to see people

 

> with missing heads, limbs,& very badly mutalated

 

> bodies like I have seen in my travels. You'd

 

> probably change your mind about many law issues!

 

>

 

> Sometimes I don't know how the law enforcement

 

> officers do it due to selfish sensless acts

 

> mentioned!

 

>

 

> Just wanted to add my view about the issue so I'll

 

> just leave it at that!

 

>

 

> I'm glad to see posts from both sides of this issue!

 

> Conversation Right? No Flames intended on my part!

 

>

 

> Thanks again for a very good site!

 

>

 

> Be Safe & "Happy Trails"

 

>

 

> Ken, Wisconsin

 

>

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: Milana Wells

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 10:34 AM

 

> Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: An open letter to

 

> Mayor Chavez of Albuquerque, New Mexico

 

>

 

>

 

> I might just add that I've spent a lot of time in

 

> Albuquerque and the rest of New Mexico, and I've

 

> never had trouble trouble with the traffic

 

> authorities.

 

>

 

> But then, I don't drive when under the influence,

 

> and I don't run red lights.

 

>

 

> It just broke my heart a few years ago when I

 

> sweet young woman I knew, a person everyone who knew

 

> her loved, was killed by a drunken driver. He was

 

> driving in the wrong lane on a road with a divider,

 

> and hit her car headon. (And he was an illegal

 

> alien, too).

 

>

 

> New Mexico has good reason to be strict about

 

> traffic regulations. (And I'm not advocating

 

> unconstitutional measures -- but New York City was

 

> confiscating accused DUI drivers' cars, on Mayor

 

> Rudi Giuliani's orders).

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Fred Moore <texasfred@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

> To those who are worried:

 

> Worry no more a State Judge ruled the

 

> impounding as

 

> unconsttutinal so the law will not be able to take

 

> your vehicle. Just trying to keep you up to date.

 

> Former New Mexico Resident and soon to return for

 

> the

 

> Balloon Fiesta in Albuquerque

 

>

 

> Fred Moore

 

> PS:

 

> Love this group

 

>

 

> --- "David G. Clark"

 

> <dave@windycityroadwarrior.com>

 

> wrote:

 

>

 

> >

 

> > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com,

 

> "milana_wells"

 

> > <milana_wells@y...> wrote:

 

> > > Both DWI and running red lights KILL innocent

 

> > people.

 

> > >

 

> > > New Mexico has one of the worst DWI problems

 

> in

 

> > the nation. They

 

> > > have a reason to be strict.

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > STRICT is one thing--there is nothing wrong with

 

> > strict enforcement

 

> > and strong prosecution of DWI and red light

 

> laws.

 

> >

 

> > But impounding cars without due process goes

 

> beyond

 

> > STRICT. This

 

> > ventures into the area of POLICE STATE. Let's

 

> all go

 

> > back to the U.S.

 

> > Constitution and remember why the founders

 

> thought

 

> > that separation of

 

> > powers was a good idea. The Police, who arrest

 

> > suspects, serve an

 

> > executive/administrative function. The Courts,

 

> who

 

> > judge the evidence

 

> > concerning arrested suspects, serve the judicial

 

> > function. Let's keep

 

> > it that way!

 

> >

 

> > Dave Clark

 

> > Windy City Road Warrior

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> __________________________________

 

> Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

 

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>

 

>

 

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> Visit our homepage at:

 

> http://www.mockturtlepress.com

 

>

 

> To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE

 

> TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY!

 

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A positive attitude may not solve all your problems,

 

but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Bob Reynolds

Just a note to let y'all know about a TV show that Susan and I

 

found on RFDTV. It's called "Two Lane Traveler" and has to do with

 

special spots in the state of Georgia, some of them out of the way,

 

some, like Rock City and Stone Mountain, quite well known. The

 

episode we watched featured some little known museums, such as the

 

granite museum in Elberton, a telephone museum in Leslie, and a fire

 

fighting museum in Woodbine. They also mentioned a small airfield

 

outside of Americus where Charles Lindburgh began his first solo

 

flight.

 

 

 

This brings up a question. If the Mother road doesn't have her

 

own TV show (and I'm not counting the show from the 50's:), why not?

 

 

 

For more info, here's the show's web addy...

 

http://www.twolanetraveller.com/

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Well John,.......If that's what you want to call it! So be it!

 

 

 

Reality sucks at times Huh? Sounds like I struck a nerve here?

 

 

 

Have a good day!

 

 

 

Ken

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: John W

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 5:45 PM

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: An open letter to Mayor Chavez of

 

Albuquerque, New Mexico

 

 

 

 

 

Wow--Is this turning into a "one-up" type of post to

 

try to describe the most gruesome? Try fire, or

 

airplane crash--or the recent "be-headings" posted

 

from the barbaric countries--who needs it!! I'll be

 

back when we get back to enjoying our great country

 

and its great roads! I, too, have been witness to

 

slaughter but don't feel the need to ease my pain by

 

describing it to others. John w

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Yeah, I do think you are correct on that one!

 

 

 

Ken

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Alex Burr

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 6:04 PM

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: An open letter to Mayor Chavez of

 

Albuquerque, New Mexico

 

 

 

 

 

As long as politicians, law makers, lawyers, etc,

 

drink the drunk driving laws will continue to be lax.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

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Like I said, if that is what you need to make your

 

life better, so be it. Reality doesn't suck, using

 

that logic, you could just say it was helping to keep

 

the population down. Didn't strike a nerve with me,

 

just seems kind an immature way to pass the time. Too

 

many good sites that stay on track and don't get

 

personal. This all started because someone thought

 

their opinion of our constitution was important to

 

this group, rather than what the name implies

 

"American Road." Nuff said. john w

 

--- ken <stokerk@ticon.net> wrote:

 

 

 

> Well John,.......If that's what you want to call it!

 

> So be it!

 

>

 

> Reality sucks at times Huh? Sounds like I struck a

 

> nerve here?

 

>

 

> Have a good day!

 

>

 

> Ken

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: John W

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 5:45 PM

 

> Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: An open letter to

 

> Mayor Chavez of Albuquerque, New Mexico

 

>

 

>

 

> Wow--Is this turning into a "one-up" type of post

 

> to

 

> try to describe the most gruesome? Try fire, or

 

> airplane crash--or the recent "be-headings" posted

 

> from the barbaric countries--who needs it!! I'll

 

> be

 

> back when we get back to enjoying our great

 

> country

 

> and its great roads! I, too, have been witness to

 

> slaughter but don't feel the need to ease my pain

 

> by

 

> describing it to others. John w

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

 

> removed]

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Oh OK,................Have a good one John!

 

 

 

Ken

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: John W

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 7:31 PM

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: An open letter to Mayor Chavez of

 

Albuquerque, New Mexico

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Like I said, if that is what you need to make your

 

life better, so be it. Reality doesn't suck, using

 

that logic, you could just say it was helping to keep

 

the population down. Didn't strike a nerve with me,

 

just seems kind an immature way to pass the time. Too

 

many good sites that stay on track and don't get

 

personal. This all started because someone thought

 

their opinion of our constitution was important to

 

this group, rather than what the name implies

 

"American Road." Nuff said. john w

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Hi all...The time's come to put this thread to bed. It's been going

 

on for nine days now and has morphed into something not pertaining to

 

the purpose of our group: Two lane highways and the things to see on

 

their shoulders. Let's try to keep our focus of the "attitude" we

 

want our list to have.

 

 

 

If you feel the need to keep this thread going, I'd suggest you head

 

over to the "route66news" Yahoo Group. From what I hear, no one

 

monitors that list and it apparently has its share of opinions flying

 

around daily.

 

 

 

And this seems to be a good time to post our Speed Limits. Enjoy!

 

 

 

Because personal views often differ, please familiarize yourself with

 

our SPEED LIMITS, which set boundaries and explain the atmosphere we

 

hope to maintain.

 

 

 

-New members will be approved and moderated for a short time until a

 

history of appropriate posts is established. We welcome new members;

 

unfortunately, we've started this policy to protect the group and

 

prevent spam.

 

 

 

-NO FLAMING! Flaming is any derogatory or insulting remark directed

 

at another list member. This doesn't necessarily include comments

 

critical of persons outside the list, however, such as actions by

 

those who would destroy roadside landmarks. Remember, the list

 

isn't

 

a battleground for personal arguments. Acts of flaming will generate

 

a reminder. Continued infractions will result in banishment.

 

 

 

-Keep your posts on topic. Off-topic posts should be sparing and

 

labeled OFF-TOPIC.

 

 

 

-No profanity & off-color jokes.

 

 

 

-Kindly keep posts road-related and aimed at the group in general

 

rather than one person. Private email should be used for one-on-one

 

chat.

 

 

 

-Computers have made us lazy but we ask that you please make a real

 

effort to only include parts of a prior message pertinent to your

 

response. Simply hitting "reply" wastes space and forces

 

everyone to

 

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Just had to make group aware: On a quick run up to

 

Tehachapi, Ca. Thurs eve., I found a great place to

 

eat and a good reason to return for further

 

exploration of the entire area. Restaurant called

 

'Mountain Pass' restaurant--fairly new owners--great

 

people and great, affordable food. Worth the trip that

 

way instead of down the 'grapevine'. It is near

 

motels, some that date back a ways but never-the-less

 

clean looking, on Tehachapi Blvd. More info after a

 

later trip, I promise. ipilot66

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest drivewdave@aol.com

Dave here again,

 

 

 

So how was a freeway trip to Tacoma pure delight?

 

Last week I caught the Seattle Express at sunset

 

in downtown Seattle and settled into the first

 

crossways seat on the right, just behind the

 

sideways seats over the front wheels. This

 

gives the best view of the road ahead. Lots

 

to look at through downtown and south through

 

the industrial zone past the Seahawks stadium

 

and the Mariners ballpark, the last leg through

 

the city is on Busway which is dedicated to

 

transit along what was once only a rail alignment.

 

So this means you go by the backs of industrial

 

buildings. This is also the Bus Way Art Corridor

 

with dozens of murals to combat taggers and

 

brighten up what to most is a drab landscape.

 

 

 

Entering I-5, dusk was falling, the Olympic range to the

 

west was profiled against a cloudless wash

 

of color fading from pink into blue into indigo.

 

The I-5 freeway rises on a sidehill above the Duwamish

 

valley which gives a territorial view, much more than

 

down on the flats on Old 99.

 

 

 

Traffic was thick but moving at the speed limit and

 

the continuous streams of red and white lights made

 

a beautiful sinous pattern tracing the alignment up

 

and down, curving and straightening out.

 

 

 

I have traveled this road hundreds of times since it

 

was completed in the late 60s so there are plenty

 

of landmarks to check in with. Boeing Field has

 

the Museum of Flight with the first 747 and other

 

historical aircraft. There are AWACs planes parked

 

outside the hangars which have huge red and

 

white checkerboard patterns for visibility.

 

 

 

If I take the trouble to look I can see the two

 

thirty foot steel spheres that was the first

 

Boeing wind tunnel outside the model shop on

 

former US99, these have been highway icons

 

for me as long as I can remember, I didn't find

 

out what they were until I was in my twenties.

 

To spot the tanks from clear across the valley

 

connects me back to those older times on 99.

 

Anyone who knows how the various Boeing

 

airplanes affected history will realize

 

the signifigance of this site.

 

 

 

(Detour here, the other main icon on this stretch

 

of 99 was the Hat n' Boots gas station which is

 

just what it sounds like, a gigantic cowboy hat

 

and two cowboy boots. After years of being in

 

limbo behind chainlink fence they were recently

 

rescued and moved to a nearby park, this shows

 

how roadside icons are important to the general

 

public who are mostly not 'roadies' per se.)

 

 

 

A few miles south the road makes almost a ninety

 

degree bend over the Green River ('that' Green River)

 

on what was at the time of construction the largest

 

curved orthagonal steel box bridge in the world but

 

you would never know it. The only reason I know that

 

is from going through library stacks looking at old

 

state highway department journals in the late 70s.

 

 

 

Mount Rainier was visible off and on depending on

 

the direction of the alignment and later on a constant

 

presence on the SE horizon. That thing is BIG and

 

if you have not lived near a stratovolcano such

 

as Rainier or Shasta there is no way to describe it.

 

(Those who grew up here just call it The Mountain

 

and everyone knows what you mean even though

 

we have plenty of other mountains on the E and W

 

horizons. In the winter when the leaves are

 

gone I can see three other volcanoes out of

 

my kitchen windows.)

 

 

 

The terrain is rolling being a moraine from the

 

last ice age so the road goes straight mostly

 

in the river valleys, otherwise lots of hills

 

and curves which makes it fun to look at.

 

 

 

Sitting higher up in the bus allows a good view

 

of traffic, you could make a survey of driving

 

styles behind the wheel. The one hand on top

 

method seems to be prevalent and the classic

 

professional ten to two is in the minority.

 

It's fun looking across to the truckers at

 

the same level.

 

 

 

When you reach Pierce County things get real

 

interesting, the county line is obvious since

 

the pavement goes from cement to blacktop.

 

Here is a very large color video sign the size of

 

a large billboard, it's like having Paul Bunyans'

 

TV in the sky, it was controversial at first

 

and still could be considered distracting.

 

Soon the freeway makes a huge bend from

 

S to E, it's like riding the rim of a big bowl

 

and it just goes on and on.

 

 

 

This is where the roadside commerce builds up,

 

old 99 is on the inside of the bend and has an

 

equally impressive banked bowl effect to it.

 

 

 

First you see the RV and used truck lots,

 

then it's a constant stream of auto dealers,

 

franchise outlets, travel inns, more dealers,

 

etc. lots of bright signage it's all on a big scale.

 

 

 

This all got built up since the Reagan years,

 

until then the cement pavement of The Pacific Highway

 

on the S side of I-5 had grass shoulders, now it's blacktop,

 

car dealers and warehouses, on the N side of I-5 Old 99

 

which never really fell out of use is busier than ever.

 

 

 

This stretch due W is the longest straightaway or tangent

 

on the trip, several miles long. Then comes a big sweep over

 

the Puyallup river bridge, a good view of the US99 bridge

 

and several RR bridges with downtown Tacoma on

 

the W skyline, then up a long grade (Caution, Slow

 

Moving Vehicles) past The Tacoma Dome, once the

 

largest wood dome in the world. The parking lot

 

next to the dome will soon be site of the LeMay

 

Museum housing part of the worlds' largest private

 

automobile collection of thousands of ordinary

 

and not-so-ordinary cars obtained from a

 

fortune built on collecting garbage.

 

The grade has a panoramic view compared with

 

the intimate drive down a treelined gulch on

 

parallel Old 99, here known as Wakefield way.

 

 

 

Now we're up on a viaduct with a chance of

 

a quick glimpse (if you know where to look)

 

of 'world famous' Bob's Java Jive, one of the prime

 

examples of figural architecture, a huge two-story

 

coffeepot from the late 20s on Old 99, again one of

 

my landmarks for as long as I remember. This viaduct

 

(we are on WA SR 16 now) affords a great view as it

 

crosses South Tacoma Way, former fourlane US99, you

 

see it curving off into the distance miles down the

 

road, a view you will never get when you drive on it.

 

 

 

All this is to point out why for me a trip on the

 

freeway can be pure delight with the sights to see

 

and the sense of moving through space.

 

 

 

I have been wondering lately if there might be some

 

huge bends of the interstate on those three digit routes

 

that go around instead of through midwestern cities like

 

the one around Indianapolis that Dave Letterman tried

 

to get named for him. A look at the highway atlas

 

shows some ninety degree beltway bends which is

 

why I wonder. Is it easy to lose ones sense of

 

direction on these with no landscape cues?

 

I also wonder if (depending on the zoning)

 

there might be lots of roadside commerce

 

to see from those three digit freeways.

 

 

 

Those bends are so big that when you are in the middle

 

of them all you can see is curving road in both directions

 

on a vast scale, big sweeping curves on the two-lane

 

roads can give this effect too, a feeling of being in

 

the middle of something really big.

 

 

 

This feeling of large scale is something the freeways

 

are good at. I-90 E of Billings Montana is like a gigantic

 

rollercoaster the way it wraps itself over the landscape.

 

 

 

Thanks for reading all this, I hope you enjoyed a description

 

of a freeway trip in The Evergreen State...make that western

 

Washington, eastern Washington is way way different.

 

 

 

PS While editing the above the part about the viaduct

 

view got me wondering if any roadies ever take to the

 

air (as in a small plane perhaps) to view the old roads.

 

I once read that the old Santa Fe Trail of the cattle

 

drives was rediscovered from the air in the 1930s.

 

Online satellite photos (and maps) are interesting

 

and helpful too, how about some feedback on your

 

favorite sites...

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More good ideas. The airplane station hadn't occurred to me although I was

 

vaguely aware that it was in the Knoxville neighborhood. We'll see how

 

things work out.

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

Denny

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Roustabout [mailto:roustabout@starband.net]

 

Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 5:47 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Georgia Road Ideas?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: "Denny Gibson" <denny@dennygibson.com>

 

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 1:42 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Georgia Road Ideas?

 

 

 

 

 

>

 

> Looks like I'll be north east of Atlanta (Royston) next week and MAY have

 

> some drive time. At least, a semi-leisurely drive back to Cincinnati.

 

US-25

 

> passes near by so that is a possibility but wondered what other ideas list

 

> members might have. Either a neat path that leads toward Cincy or local

 

cool

 

> sights on roads that lead no where in particular.

 

>

 

> --Denny

 

>

 

If you have time enough for some mountain driving, you could take US 19

 

north of Atlanta up to Cherokee, N. C. Then US 441 across the Smokies to

 

Knoxiousville. Pick up 25 W (Clinton Highway) and it will take you right by

 

the airplane gas station.

 

 

 

BabyBoomerBob

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Guest Bob Worley

That's Right Folks! The stars are night are big and bright, deep in the heart

 

of Texas!

 

 

 

Texas' newest drive-in movie theatre, the 3-screen Galaxy Drive-in near Ennis,

 

Texas, has announced its opening date: This Friday, December 17, 2004 !!

 

 

 

All three fields are ready with authentic vintage car speakers, freshly

 

refurbished and painted for your listening pleasure. Return to the nostalgic

 

days of real metal speakers hanging in your car window, or enjoy the modern

 

convenience of listening to the movies over your vehicle's FM radio with DTS

 

surround sound!

 

 

 

The snack bar is open for business, serving up delicious snacks including

 

hamburgers, cheeseburgers, hot dogs, corny dogs, french fries, nachos, popcorn,

 

candies, soft drinks and more!

 

 

 

Screen #1 will open with a double-feature of "The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie"

 

followed by Jim Carrey in "Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events".

 

 

 

Screen #2 will feature "Christmas with the Kranks" and "Polar Express".

 

 

 

Also starting Christmas night, December 25th will be "Fat Albert".

 

 

 

Screen #3 will then open in a few weeks with two more features!

 

 

 

For the newest pictures go directly to:

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.galaxydriveintheatre.com/gallery/build?page=6

 

 

 

The Galaxy Drive-in is located on I-45 just north of Ennis, Texas at exit 255.

 

Bring the whole family out for a night at the movies under the stars!

 

 

 

www.galaxydriveintheatre.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest egyptianzipper@aol.com

In a message dated 12/12/04 8:22:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

 

denny@dennygibson.com writes:

 

With the road twisting and turning the way it does, I usually couldn't even

 

guess which way a river was supposed to be running:-)

 

====================================================================

 

Here's how it happened: I was going downhill on the highway. So was the

 

river. However, it appeared to be flowing downhill TOWARD me rather than in the

 

same direction. I let the car coast a minute to prove to myself that I was

 

indeed

 

going downhill.

 

 

 

Tom Hoffman

 

Pearisburg VA

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Guest Valli Hoski

You could try US-30 west through Pennsylvania.

 

Or take US-50 west from Ocean City, across the Cheseapeake Bay to points west.

 

Valli

 

 

 

Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:59:36 -0000

 

From: "vikram_h2" <vikram_h2@yahoo.co.in>

 

Subject: suggestions for winter drive

 

 

 

Hello all,

 

 

 

Been here for about 3 months now. Studying at College park, Maryland.

 

I was wondering if i could get any inputs on the kind of places that

 

could be visited in this part of the country during the winter break.

 

 

 

1. Not more than 8 hours drive.

 

2. Group of 6 travelling.

 

3. Not much money need be spent.

 

4. Game for any kind of topography.

 

 

 

Appreciate it,

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

Vikram

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Valli Hoski

 

GT-PFRC digest only: vallihoski@yahoo.com

 

Ham radio only: N8QVT@arrl.net

 

Direct email address: valli@myfastmail.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I do NOT think I would want to chance U S 30 west of

 

Chambersburg in the winter time - nor U S 50 west of

 

Maryland thru WV. Mountain country and the roads out

 

there go in two directions - straight up, or straight

 

down.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- Valli Hoski <vallihoski@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> You could try US-30 west through Pennsylvania.

 

> Or take US-50 west from Ocean City, across the

 

> Cheseapeake Bay to points west.

 

> Valli

 

>

 

> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:59:36 -0000

 

> From: "vikram_h2" <vikram_h2@yahoo.co.in>

 

> Subject: suggestions for winter drive

 

>

 

> Hello all,

 

>

 

> Been here for about 3 months now. Studying at

 

> College park, Maryland.

 

> I was wondering if i could get any inputs on the

 

> kind of places that

 

> could be visited in this part of the country during

 

> the winter break.

 

>

 

> 1. Not more than 8 hours drive.

 

> 2. Group of 6 travelling.

 

> 3. Not much money need be spent.

 

> 4. Game for any kind of topography.

 

>

 

> Appreciate it,

 

>

 

> Cheers,

 

> Vikram

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Valli Hoski

 

> GT-PFRC digest only: vallihoski@yahoo.com

 

> Ham radio only: N8QVT@arrl.net

 

> Direct email address: valli@myfastmail.com

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

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but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Dorothy Thompson

Is College Park near Salisbury, Maryland? If so, I live nearby. I would

 

suggest the Eastern Shore of Virginia. Go down 50 until you hit Rt#13 and

 

follow that south. It's dead this time of year, but if you are into wildlife

 

and birds, visit Chincoteague and Assateague Island. Beautiful country. Wild

 

ponies roam the streets and you often have to stop the car and let them by.

 

Pretty friendly, though.

 

 

 

Dorothy

 

 

 

 

 

--- Valli Hoski <vallihoski@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> You could try US-30 west through Pennsylvania.

 

> Or take US-50 west from Ocean City, across the

 

> Cheseapeake Bay to points west.

 

> Valli

 

>

 

> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:59:36 -0000

 

> From: "vikram_h2" <vikram_h2@yahoo.co.in>

 

> Subject: suggestions for winter drive

 

>

 

> Hello all,

 

>

 

> Been here for about 3 months now. Studying at

 

> College park, Maryland.

 

> I was wondering if i could get any inputs on the

 

> kind of places that

 

> could be visited in this part of the country during

 

> the winter break.

 

>

 

> 1. Not more than 8 hours drive.

 

> 2. Group of 6 travelling.

 

> 3. Not much money need be spent.

 

> 4. Game for any kind of topography.

 

>

 

> Appreciate it,

 

>

 

> Cheers,

 

> Vikram

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dorothy Thompson

 

ROMANCING THE SOUL

 

Do you believe in soul mates?

 

http://www.dorothythompson.net

 

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Hello all,

 

I'm glad to see that someone is keeping Drive-In's alive. Until

 

recently, I lived within one mile of the Bel-Aire Drive-In, in Walkertown, N.C.

 

My

 

daughter-in-law's Grandparents were half owners of it. They had to close a

 

couple

 

of years ago, because of health reasons etc. I understand that they sold a

 

lot of their equipment, and most of the speakers etc, to the Galaxy, opening up

 

in Texas. I'm glad more people will get to enjoy all the equipment they

 

bought from other places that closed down. I think that once all the drive-in's

 

are

 

closed, we will have lost a very important part of our history. I know I'm

 

always up for going to the Drive-In. I hope my grand children will be able to

 

see what it's like too.

 

 

 

Jim

 

N. Carolina

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Guest Denny Gibson

This seems like it might be just the situation the word "anachronism" was

 

created for. Who could have guessed that the internet would be used to

 

spread word around the world of the opening of a brand new drive-in theater.

 

That's pretty cool!

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Bob Worley [mailto:bwcobra15@yahoo.com]

 

Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:06 AM

 

To: American_Road Yahoogroup

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Galaxy Drive-in opens this Friday

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's Right Folks! The stars are night are big and bright, deep in the

 

heart of Texas!

 

 

 

Texas' newest drive-in movie theatre, the 3-screen Galaxy Drive-in near

 

Ennis, Texas, has announced its opening date: This Friday, December 17, 2004

 

!!

 

 

 

All three fields are ready with authentic vintage car speakers, freshly

 

refurbished and painted for your listening pleasure. Return to the

 

nostalgic days of real metal speakers hanging in your car window, or enjoy

 

the modern convenience of listening to the movies over your vehicle's FM

 

radio with DTS surround sound!

 

 

 

The snack bar is open for business, serving up delicious snacks including

 

hamburgers, cheeseburgers, hot dogs, corny dogs, french fries, nachos,

 

popcorn, candies, soft drinks and more!

 

 

 

Screen #1 will open with a double-feature of "The SpongeBob SquarePants

 

Movie" followed by Jim Carrey in "Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate

 

Events".

 

 

 

Screen #2 will feature "Christmas with the Kranks" and "Polar Express".

 

 

 

Also starting Christmas night, December 25th will be "Fat Albert".

 

 

 

Screen #3 will then open in a few weeks with two more features!

 

 

 

For the newest pictures go directly to:

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.galaxydriveintheatre.com/gallery/build?page=6

 

 

 

The Galaxy Drive-in is located on I-45 just north of Ennis, Texas at exit

 

255. Bring the whole family out for a night at the movies under the stars!

 

 

 

www.galaxydriveintheatre.com

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I guess salisbury is on the other side of the bay. Definitely into

 

wildlife and scenic spots. Thanks for the suggestions ppl.

 

 

 

Vikram

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Dorothy Thompson

 

<thewriterslife@y...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Is College Park near Salisbury, Maryland? If so, I live nearby. I

 

would suggest the Eastern Shore of Virginia. Go down 50 until you hit

 

Rt#13 and follow that south. It's dead this time of year, but if you

 

are into wildlife and birds, visit Chincoteague and Assateague Island.

 

Beautiful country. Wild ponies roam the streets and you often have

 

to stop the car and let them by. Pretty friendly, though.

 

>

 

> Dorothy

 

>

 

>

 

> --- Valli Hoski <vallihoski@y...> wrote:

 

>

 

> > You could try US-30 west through Pennsylvania.

 

> > Or take US-50 west from Ocean City, across the

 

> > Cheseapeake Bay to points west.

 

> > Valli

 

> >

 

> > Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:59:36 -0000

 

> > From: "vikram_h2" <vikram_h2@y...>

 

> > Subject: suggestions for winter drive

 

> >

 

> > Hello all,

 

> >

 

> > Been here for about 3 months now. Studying at

 

> > College park, Maryland.

 

> > I was wondering if i could get any inputs on the

 

> > kind of places that

 

> > could be visited in this part of the country during

 

> > the winter break.

 

> >

 

> > 1. Not more than 8 hours drive.

 

> > 2. Group of 6 travelling.

 

> > 3. Not much money need be spent.

 

> > 4. Game for any kind of topography.

 

> >

 

> > Appreciate it,

 

> >

 

> > Cheers,

 

> > Vikram

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

Dorothy Thompson

 

> ROMANCING THE SOUL

 

> Do you believe in soul mates?

 

> http://www.dorothythompson.net

 

> http://www.overthehillchick.blogspot.com

 

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It's back - your Lincoln Highway Updates.

 

 

 

Historic Hazen - The Hazen Market has been

 

added to Nevada's Register of Historic Places

 

from the Lahontan Valley News:

 

http://xrl.us/ec7o

 

from the Reno-Gazette Journal, RGJ.com:

 

http://xrl.us/ec7p

 

 

 

An article about the Arch Museum off I-80 in

 

Kearney, NE:

 

'How the heck do you get there?'

 

http://xrl.us/ec7q

 

 

 

LHA member P. Louis DeRose has a new

 

book out on Arcadia's Image of America

 

Series on Greensburg, PA:

 

http://xrl.us/ec7r

 

http://xrl.us/ec7s

 

 

 

Greensburg Art Center Holiday Sale

 

includes a LH painting of the Kliment

 

Bldg on Ardmore Blvd - the Studebaker

 

Dealer:

 

http://xrl.us/ec7u

 

 

 

PA's LH Corridor Project just keeps

 

rollin' along with the Mural Project, from

 

Pittsburgh Live.com:

 

http://xrl.us/ec7w

 

& the PA LH Corridor gets a state grant

 

for three projects, courtesy of PR Newswire:

 

http://xrl.us/ec7x

 

 

 

VanWert's Cinema on the LH reopens after

 

the 2002 tornado disaster:

 

http://xrl.us/ec7y

 

The same owner's have the famous Van-Del

 

Drive-in on the LH between VanWert and

 

Delphos with a great sign proclaiming that it's

 

the "swingingest"!

 

 

 

Denny Gibson took a road trip on the PA's

 

LH Corridor and chronicles it at his website

 

with plenty of photos - check it out at:

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/lhhc04

 

 

 

Jason Daub's dream of opening a bookstore

 

is realized on the LH in Nevada, IA:

 

http://xrl.us/ec75

 

 

 

A CA LH placename you don't often hear

 

of - Cilpper Gap, from the Auburn Journal:

 

http://xrl.us/ec78

 

 

 

Thursday, Oct. 21, 2004 the York LH

 

Garage is no more:

 

http://xrl.us/ec8a

 

Strangely the building had two sets of large

 

plastic letters spelling out Lincoln Highway

 

in red and blue that no one thought to try

 

to save. Someone picked some of these

 

out of the rubble and tried to sell them on

 

ebay to no avail.

 

A large 9' X 23' modern metal sign in 6

 

pieces did sell on ebay for $150:

 

http://xrl.us/ec8d

 

 

 

A short article about the LH Artists Studio

 

Tour in Ames, IA:

 

http://xrl.us/ec8e

 

 

 

LHA Members report in:

 

 

 

LHA Indiana Chapter Pres Jan Shupert-Arick

 

reports that the Marshall County Transportation

 

Museum in Plymouth, IN has recovered TWO

 

Lincoln Highway Concrete Markers!!! - Yeh!!

 

 

 

LHA Ohio member Michael Lester reports,

 

"The Lincoln Highway is becoming so well

 

known again that it is featured on page 58 of

 

Vol. 3 of the Cracker Barrel Old Country

 

Store Travel Almanac for the Year 2005.

 

You can get it free at Cracker Barrel."

 

 

 

Some ebay LH auctions:

 

 

 

An LHA member may have set a new record

 

for the highest amount ever paid for an LH

 

scenic view (non-advertising) postcard - a real

 

photo view of Plainfield, IL:

 

http://xrl.us/ec8g

 

 

 

A real photo view of the LH in Ely from the

 

20's sold for $129

 

 

 

A shield-shaped Automobile Blue Book

 

Inn porcelain sign sold for $2,136

 

http://xrl.us/ec8h

 

 

 

A publicity photo of the popular Myrt & Marge

 

CBS radio duo as they started their cross-country

 

trip at the Western Terminus marker of the LH

 

in SF, CA went for $137

 

 

 

A real photo postcard of the Norden Store at

 

the Donner Summit went for $80

 

 

 

A brass LH radiator badge went for $168:

 

http://xrl.us/ec8j

 

 

 

An old '20s LH pinback from Grand Island, NE

 

went for $54

 

 

 

A real photo postcard of the "Lincoln Cutoff" in

 

Orangevale, CA went for $38 - is this the 1928

 

LH?

 

http://xrl.us/ec8m

 

 

 

A real photo postcard of Ferguson's in Greensburg,

 

PA featuring an Atlantic White Flash Gas Station

 

went for $127

 

 

 

One seller hit the bonanza with a series of nice early

 

CA real photo postcards:

 

1. Meadows Bridge S Tahoe - $98

 

http://xrl.us/ec8o

 

2. Donner Pass Lake Road - $49

 

http://xrl.us/ec8q

 

3. Yuba River Auburn Road - $98

 

http://xrl.us/ec8r

 

4. Meyers Grade Lake Tahoe - $159

 

http://xrl.us/ec8s

 

 

 

A large thermometer advertising the Blair Bridge

 

went for $168 (there's one like this inside Preston's

 

Garage in Belle Plaine, IA):

 

http://xrl.us/ec8v

 

 

 

A 1915 LH map from the Nat'l Hwy Assoc. went

 

for $130:

 

http://xrl.us/ec8x

 

and it's brother of the Dixie Hwy went for $202:

 

http://xrl.us/ec8z

 

 

 

Whew....I guess that get's me almost caught up!

 

 

 

Have a great holiday and safe new year. Be sure

 

to take some road trips in 2005 and I will see you

 

soon in Ely, NV.

 

 

 

yer pal,

 

 

 

ypsi-slim, new King of the Dixie Highway

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Tour the ruins of Detroit

 

http://detroityes.com/

 

 

 

Embrace blight! A quest to document bad conversions.

 

http://www.notfoolinganybody.com/

 

 

 

Still considering creating a web-site to document surviving

 

examples of Googie Architecture in my area.

 

Too cold out now, but I hope to get around to it come spring.

 

The "notfooling" site is interesting enough. They are asking for

 

submissions. Perhaps I'll share an example I saw this past year.

 

A "Kennedy Fried Chicken" in Plainfield, NJ. . . . get the picture?

 

...Chris

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Guest drivewdave@aol.com

Just a little road report on one of our american roads,

 

took a little drive on a few miles of cement concrete

 

from 1927 the other day and saw much more traffic

 

on it than there used to be.

 

 

 

When was the last time you as in any of you drove

 

on some actual pavement from the 1920s, I would

 

like to hear the particulars.

 

 

 

As you no doubt know it is not easy to do this anymore.

 

 

 

This road from 1927 was bypassed in 1940 which is mostly

 

why it is still intact but nowadays suburbia looms.

 

 

 

The design speed was probably around 50 MPH since that

 

is a comfortable rate. The fills over the creeks have

 

settled causing some dips but otherwise the road

 

is pretty much as good as new just like 1927.

 

 

 

This road gives me a great thrill to drive and there

 

is no amount of hand-cut roadside french fries

 

as much as I crave them that even comes close to it.

 

So slide out of your diner booth and give us a road report please....Dave

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Guest Alex Burr

Looking thru my 1941 AAA Tour Book this morning. Discovered the

 

following routing, at that time, of U S highways 61, 63 and 64 in the

 

West Memphis/Memphis area.

 

 

 

U S 61 came down current AR 30/42 from Meneshea to Turrell, where it

 

joined with 64 and followed current AR 77 south to U S 70 in West Memphis.

 

 

 

U S 63 ran to Vincent, AR, then south on current AR 147 to Lehi on U

 

S 70, just west of West Memphis. Then it ran east, joining 61/64 at

 

the junction of current N. Missouri and Broadway in West Memphis, and

 

on across the then Hernando Bridge into Memphis.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

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Guest laurelrk66@aol.com

In a message dated 2/14/2004 10:12:04 AM Central Standard Time,

 

theoakman@theriver.com writes:

 

 

 

 

 

> When was the last time you as in any of you drove

 

> on some actual pavement from the 1920s, I would

 

> like to hear the particulars.

 

>

 

 

 

I am fortunate enough to have a portion of the renowned 1922 9-foot highway

 

just two miles from my Afton Station. It existed for 4 years before it became

 

part of Route 66 in 1926. I drive it often, and marvel at the idea of a

 

one-lane road with just shoulders on which to pull over in the event of oncoming

 

traffic. In his book, Jim Ross describes it's construction as "rock asphalt

 

over a concrete base." To cruise down this "Sidewalk Highway" is to truly

 

understand and appreciate early 20th century travel.

 

 

 

Laurel

 

Afton, OK

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