Guest Mike Gassmann Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Yes, I LOVE the Milwaulkee Summerfest. Funny thing is, I hadn't even heard of it until after we dubbed our event Summerfest a few years ago and I tried to buy the SUMMERFEST.COM web domain. :-) * * * Mike Gassmann, Big Tomato World's Largest Catsup Bottle Central Command bigtomato@catsupbottle.com www.catsupbottle.com On May 28, 2004, at 11:11 AM, big_ugly_mich@yahoo.com wrote: > Summerfest? I was born in Milwaukee and we have a HUGE music festival > (biggest in the world according to the Guinness Book of World Records) > called Summerfest. It's a ten day affair that ends on the Sunday > following July 4th. > > Technically, I'm not whining, since no one bothered to trademark the > name, but it's just an observation. > > We DID make a website for it called www.summerfest.com that you may > want to check out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brusca, Frank Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 By the time I was 7 (1963), my family had moved between Baltimore and Denver four times (my dad worked for the Glenn L. Martin Company). Moving vans and long distance trips were very normal in my early life. When I was nine or so, I wondered why we weren't moving back to Denver. To inspire my parents, I checked out Colorado picture books from the library and left them on the coffee table. (My ploy never worked.) On one of my library trips I found the Stewart book (Dewey # 917.3S). I checked it out non-stop for about five or six years. I recall spending hour upon hour memorizing the book. Part of my fascination was imaging what lay outside the view of the camera at each scene. It's been wonderful (sometimes alarming) to see what the locations are actually like. In my estimation, there are only four landmark books in the genre of roadside literature. They are John Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath, Jack Kerouac's On the Road and William Least Heat-Moon's Blue Highways. The fourth is Stewart's U.S. 40. If you're a roadside scholar, all four of these books should be on your shelf. Stewart's book has long been cited as the first major work in the field of odology (as defined by J.B. Jackson). Before he came along, highway books were largely travel guides and histories. When Stewart wrote U.S. 40, he set a very high standard for odological studies. We are all in debt to him. After a long career at U.C. Berkeley, Stewart died in 1980. Stewart's son Jack (a geologist with the USGS) had a mountain at Donner Pass named after his father (George R. Stewart Peak; 39° 19.31'N, 120° 20.18'W WGS84/NAD83; http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=10&n...00150275&u= 7&datum=nad83). Cheers! Frank Brusca Westerville, Ohio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Ward Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Frank, Got all four of these, and a bunch more. As long as I have room, books, maps and postcards will be bought to fill the space. Mike In my estimation, there are only four landmark books in the genre of roadside literature. They are John Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath, Jack Kerouac's On the Road and William Least Heat-Moon's Blue Highways. The fourth is Stewart's U.S. 40. If you're a roadside scholar, all four of these books should be on your shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 I'm no roadside scholar but three of those four books have been on my shelf (or couch) for quite awhile. At the moment, my copy of Blue Highways is on loan to an uncle. It's kind of embarrassing to admit that I'm just now finishing my first read of the fourth book - Stewart's. I knew of it and read the Vale's follow up a few years back. I guess I imagined it just a "book of old pictures" so it didn't work its way up my reading list as fast as it should have. I distinctly remember a feeling of "wow" after just a few pages when I realized that there was a whole lot more than "old pictures" in there. The details I've learned from your last few posts make it even better. Plus, in addition to the historical details of the pictures, and the surprise that there is a George R. Stewart Peak (now THAT'S cool!), I learned a new word. Good stuff. --Denny > -----Original Message----- > From: Brusca, Frank [mailto:fbrusca@otterbein.edu] > Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 12:31 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-40 Book/Picture question > > By the time I was 7 (1963), my family had moved between > Baltimore and Denver four times (my dad worked for the Glenn > L. Martin Company). Moving vans and long distance trips were > very normal in my early life. When I was nine or so, I > wondered why we weren't moving back to Denver. To inspire my > parents, I checked out Colorado picture books from the > library and left them on the coffee table. (My ploy never > worked.) On one of my library trips I found the Stewart book > (Dewey # 917.3S). I checked it out non-stop for about five > or six years. I recall spending hour upon hour memorizing > the book. Part of my fascination was imaging what lay > outside the view of the camera at each scene. It's been > wonderful (sometimes alarming) to see what the locations are > actually like. > > In my estimation, there are only four landmark books in the > genre of roadside literature. They are John Steinbeck's The > Grapes of Wrath, Jack Kerouac's On the Road and William Least > Heat-Moon's Blue Highways. The fourth is Stewart's U.S. 40. > If you're a roadside scholar, all four of these books should > be on your shelf. > > Stewart's book has long been cited as the first major work in > the field of odology (as defined by J.B. Jackson). Before he > came along, highway books were largely travel guides and > histories. When Stewart wrote U.S. 40, he set a very high > standard for odological studies. We are all in debt to him. > > After a long career at U.C. Berkeley, Stewart died in 1980. > Stewart's son Jack (a geologist with the USGS) had a mountain > at Donner Pass named after his father (George R. Stewart > Peak; 39° 19.31'N, 120° 20.18'W WGS84/NAD83; > http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=10&n...5433%20&e=7 > 29620.000150275&u=7&datum=nad83). > > Cheers! > > Frank Brusca > Westerville, Ohio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian Butko Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Stewart's book "Donner Pass and Those Who Crossed It" is likewise enjoyable, and was a big help when writing my "Greetings from the Lincoln Highway." It's an amazing place to visit for those who like to dream about transportation. Indians, emigrants, freight wagons, the transcontinental railroad and its tunnels, Lincoln Hwy, US 40 all came through this tight corridor. I-80 crosses two miles to the north, at Donner Summit. And of course, there's the Donner Party saga, which Stewart also wrote a book about. A great story is that the railroad builders first carved a supply road to haul its rail cars over the mountain - 40 train cars and three locomotives on log sledges had to be pulled up and over. Frank, is that Stewart's mountain with the airway beacon on it? Brian www.brianbutko.com > From: "Brusca, Frank" <fbrusca@otterbein.edu> > Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 12:30:50 -0400 > To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-40 Book/Picture question > > By the time I was 7 (1963), my family had moved between Baltimore and Denver > four times (my dad worked for the Glenn L. Martin Company). Moving vans and > long distance trips were very normal in my early life. When I was nine or so, > I wondered why we weren't moving back to Denver. To inspire my parents, I > checked out Colorado picture books from the library and left them on the > coffee table. (My ploy never worked.) On one of my library trips I found the > Stewart book (Dewey # 917.3S). I checked it out non-stop for about five or > six years. I recall spending hour upon hour memorizing the book. Part of my > fascination was imaging what lay outside the view of the camera at each scene. > It's been wonderful (sometimes alarming) to see what the locations are > actually like. > > In my estimation, there are only four landmark books in the genre of roadside > literature. They are John Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath, Jack Kerouac's On > the Road and William Least Heat-Moon's Blue Highways. The fourth is Stewart's > U.S. 40. If you're a roadside scholar, all four of these books should be on > your shelf. > > Stewart's book has long been cited as the first major work in the field of > odology (as defined by J.B. Jackson). Before he came along, highway books > were largely travel guides and histories. When Stewart wrote U.S. 40, he set > a very high standard for odological studies. We are all in debt to him. > > After a long career at U.C. Berkeley, Stewart died in 1980. Stewart's son > Jack (a geologist with the USGS) had a mountain at Donner Pass named after his > father (George R. Stewart Peak; 39° 19.31'N, 120° 20.18'W WGS84/NAD83; > http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=10&n....000150275& > u=7&datum=nad83). > > Cheers! > > Frank Brusca > Westerville, Ohio > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brusca, Frank Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Yes. The beacon is at the top of GRS Peak. Frank -----Original Message----- From: [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Butko Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 1:44 PM To: American Road Yahoo Group Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-40 Book-Donner Pass Stewart's book "Donner Pass and Those Who Crossed It" is likewise enjoyable, and was a big help when writing my "Greetings from the Lincoln Highway." It's an amazing place to visit for those who like to dream about transportation. Indians, emigrants, freight wagons, the transcontinental railroad and its tunnels, Lincoln Hwy, US 40 all came through this tight corridor. I-80 crosses two miles to the north, at Donner Summit. And of course, there's the Donner Party saga, which Stewart also wrote a book about. A great story is that the railroad builders first carved a supply road to haul its rail cars over the mountain - 40 train cars and three locomotives on log sledges had to be pulled up and over. Frank, is that Stewart's mountain with the airway beacon on it? Brian www.brianbutko.com > From: "Brusca, Frank" <fbrusca@otterbein.edu> > Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 12:30:50 -0400 > To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-40 Book/Picture question > > By the time I was 7 (1963), my family had moved between Baltimore and > Denver four times (my dad worked for the Glenn L. Martin Company). > Moving vans and long distance trips were very normal in my early life. > When I was nine or so, I wondered why we weren't moving back to > Denver. To inspire my parents, I checked out Colorado picture books > from the library and left them on the coffee table. (My ploy never > worked.) On one of my library trips I found the Stewart book (Dewey # > 917.3S). I checked it out non-stop for about five or six years. I > recall spending hour upon hour memorizing the book. Part of my fascination was imaging what lay outside the view of the camera at each scene. > It's been wonderful (sometimes alarming) to see what the locations are > actually like. > > In my estimation, there are only four landmark books in the genre of > roadside literature. They are John Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath, > Jack Kerouac's On the Road and William Least Heat-Moon's Blue > Highways. The fourth is Stewart's U.S. 40. If you're a roadside > scholar, all four of these books should be on your shelf. > > Stewart's book has long been cited as the first major work in the > field of odology (as defined by J.B. Jackson). Before he came along, > highway books were largely travel guides and histories. When Stewart > wrote U.S. 40, he set a very high standard for odological studies. We are all in debt to him. > > After a long career at U.C. Berkeley, Stewart died in 1980. Stewart's > son Jack (a geologist with the USGS) had a mountain at Donner Pass > named after his father (George R. Stewart Peak; 39° 19.31'N, 120° > 20.18'W WGS84/NAD83; > http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=10&n...amp;e=729620.00 > 0150275& > u=7&datum=nad83). > > Cheers! > > Frank Brusca > Westerville, Ohio > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/bgxwlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. Clemens, MI 48046 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 I think I get my wanderlust from the trips my folks made to Ohio in the late '40's and early '50's. Just imagine Maine (fortunately southern Maine) to the Dayton, OH area in a 1936 Chevy with Mom, Dad (who did all the driving), two (older) sisters and me. The folks made the first trip in October 1947, taking my older sister to Yellow Springs, OH, to Antioch College (I think that's right). It was really the first such trip they had ever taken - anywhere!! People didn't travel much before then - especially by car. Their biggest worry was whether my (middle) sister and I were alright and 2ndly if they had a home to come back to!!! They left just before the big forest fires of '47 started - we made it, house intact, but close. Anyway, Dad announced to all and sundry after that trip that we would be going out to Ohio the next summer to visit relatives they had visited in 1947 and some ham radio friends of Dads he'd finally got to meet. 4 people in a 1936 Chevy started for Ohio - in July of 1948!!! The heat could have killed us but went un-noticed in my mind as new things came and went; the Merritt Parkway in CT, the George Washington bridge; route 22 across New Jersey; and finally the attraction I'd been waiting for all those miles - the Pennsy!!!! Yeah, we had a turnpike in Maine - but it didn't compare to the Penn Turnpike. No tunnels for one thing. First night was in New Stanton, PA - it boggles my mind today to see the difference beteen then and now. From New Stanton we took a road, I think it's been buried under I-70 now, over to Washington and picked up U S 40. Back in 1948 this WAS the interstate thru WV into Ohio. We made that trip for several years - at least until 1950, maybe 1951 - while older sister was in college out there. After she graduated we went no more, to my saddness. In the summer of 1953 I made one of the most fantastic road trips of my life - with a good buddy of mine in a 1938 Dodge (we left home with a Dodge - came home in a 1937 Plymouth Coupe, but that's another story) Coupe. We drove to MA and picked up U S 20 west into Ohio, the 224 (as I recall) over to U S 24 to Route 66 and on to California. We went up the Pacific coast to Oregon and Washington state and came back to Maine, mostly on 20. In recent years I've driven 40 across Ohio; I've drive parts of 20 across MA and NY. Want to know something?? Everything has changed so much I didn't know where I was most of the time!!!! I suspect the same might be true of the many other roads I've driven, particularly in the eastern U S. Time erases much, unfortunately. So, you ask, what about the photos you took, the journal you kept - you did take pictures and write down your trip as you went, didn't you??? Yeah, but when I went in the Navy in 1955, momma did some house cleaning and most of my "stuff" got tossed. Traveling the old highways is a little like history - you cannot put what was in context of what is. People tend to think, today, of narrow, 2-land highways crowded with traffic. Narrow they were, 2-lane they were - crowded they weren't. Not 50 years ago. Today if an old highway parallels an interstate, like U S 20, for example, it's a lot like driving 50 years ago. Until you come to large towns and cities - then it gets crowded. Now, look at this - I've taken up to much space rambling along without a care in the world. Sorry 'bout that. Happy and safe traveling everybody. Hudsonly, Alex B --- Denny Gibson <denny@dennygibson.com> wrote: > I'm no roadside scholar but three of those four > books have been on my shelf > (or couch) for quite awhile. At the moment, my copy > of Blue Highways is on > loan to an uncle. It's kind of embarrassing to admit > that I'm just now > finishing my first read of the fourth book - > Stewart's. > > I knew of it and read the Vale's follow up a few > years back. I guess I > imagined it just a "book of old pictures" so it > didn't work its way up my > reading list as fast as it should have. I distinctly > remember a feeling of > "wow" after just a few pages when I realized that > there was a whole lot more > than "old pictures" in there. The details I've > learned from your last few > posts make it even better. > > Plus, in addition to the historical details of the > pictures, and the > surprise that there is a George R. Stewart Peak (now > THAT'S cool!), I > learned a new word. Good stuff. > > --Denny > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brusca, Frank [mailto:fbrusca@otterbein.edu] > > > Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 12:31 PM > > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-40 > Book/Picture question > > > > By the time I was 7 (1963), my family had moved > between > > Baltimore and Denver four times (my dad worked for > the Glenn > > L. Martin Company). Moving vans and long distance > trips were > > very normal in my early life. When I was nine or > so, I > > wondered why we weren't moving back to Denver. To > inspire my > > parents, I checked out Colorado picture books from > the > > library and left them on the coffee table. (My > ploy never > > worked.) On one of my library trips I found the > Stewart book > > (Dewey # 917.3S). I checked it out non-stop for > about five > > or six years. I recall spending hour upon hour > memorizing > > the book. Part of my fascination was imaging what > lay > > outside the view of the camera at each scene. > It's been > > wonderful (sometimes alarming) to see what the > locations are > > actually like. > > > > In my estimation, there are only four landmark > books in the > > genre of roadside literature. They are John > Steinbeck's The > > Grapes of Wrath, Jack Kerouac's On the Road and > William Least > > Heat-Moon's Blue Highways. The fourth is > Stewart's U.S. 40. > > If you're a roadside scholar, all four of these > books should > > be on your shelf. > > > > Stewart's book has long been cited as the first > major work in > > the field of odology (as defined by J.B. Jackson). > Before he > > came along, highway books were largely travel > guides and > > histories. When Stewart wrote U.S. 40, he set a > very high > > standard for odological studies. We are all in > debt to him. > > > > After a long career at U.C. Berkeley, Stewart died > in 1980. > > Stewart's son Jack (a geologist with the USGS) had > a mountain > > at Donner Pass named after his father (George R. > Stewart > > Peak; 39° 19.31'N, 120° 20.18'W WGS84/NAD83; > > > http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=10&n...5433%20&e=7 > > 29620.000150275&u=7&datum=nad83). > > > > Cheers! > > > > Frank Brusca > > Westerville, Ohio > > A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Having been born & raised less than 2 miles from US 40, I've been enjoying the extensive attention to it here on the group recently. I want to pass along a couple of sites to keep in your favorites for you US 40 aficionados, both involving American Road magazine writer Frank Brusca. First is his informative US 40 website: http://route40.net Frank also runs a US 40 Yahoo Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/route-40/ Be sure to check out both sites if you've not done so.... Pat Bremer American Road Yahoo Group Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Summerfest is one fun time...two weekends of music, food, and good times! There is a fee to get in, but they have some gimmick to get in free most days--an ad in the Milwaukee paper, a food donation, whatever...if you are in Milwaukee at that time, its well worth it! Tsingtao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: <big_ugly_mich@yahoo.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 11:11 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Media Alert * Get Grizzly with the World's Largest Catsup Bottle! > Summerfest? I was born in Milwaukee and we have a HUGE music festival > (biggest in the world according to the Guinness Book of World Records) > called Summerfest. It's a ten day affair that ends on the Sunday > following July 4th. > > Technically, I'm not whining, since no one bothered to trademark the > name, but it's just an observation. > > We DID make a website for it called www.summerfest.com that you may > want to check out. > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Gassmann" <mike@c...> wrote: > > May 24, 2004 > > > > I'm the Big Tomato and I approved this message: > > > > > > WORLD'S LARGEST CATSUP BOTTLE GETS GRIZZLY > > > > The Gateway Grizzlies are seeing red over one of their new > promotions! But actually, > > that's a good thing. They're teaming up with the World's Largest > Catsup Bottle to > > promote the 6th annual Downtown Collinsville Summerfest Birthday > Party this July > > 11th. > > > > The Grizzlies are donating a portion of ticket sales to benefit > Collinsville's Main Street > > revitalization program. The Catsup Bottle Summerfest fundraiser > night at GMC > > Stadium is Monday, July 5th, against the River City Rascals. Tickets > are available online > > now at www.catsupbottlesummerfest.com or by calling Downtown > Collinsville at 618 > > -345-5598. > > > > Tickets are $8.00 each for reserved field box seats and are > available at Collinsville > > Sports Store, Ashmann's Pharmacy, Evers Group of Pharmacies, Ostle's > Family > > Pharmacy, and the Downtown Collinsville office. > > > > The Gateway Grizzlies are ready to pour it on as defending champions > of the 2003 > > independent Frontier League. The team is beginning its fourth season > and is based in > > Sauget, Illinois. > > > > The World's Largest Catsup Bottle is a 55-year-old roadside landmark > water tower > > listed on the National Register of Historic Places. It was saved > from demolition and > > restored in 1995 by a nationwide grassroots fundraising effort. > > > > Downtown Collinsville, Inc. is a 501©3 nonprofit organization > implementing the > > Illinois Main Street program and dedicated to the historic > preservation, promotion, > > and economic revitalization of the downtown Collinsville area. > > > > # # # > > > > > > For Catsup Bottle information: www.catsupbottle.com > www.downtowncollinsville.com > > Downtown Collinsville, Inc. 618-345-5598 > > Judy DeMoisy, The Catsup bottle Lady & Downtown Collinsville Manager > > Mike Gassmann, The Big Tomato > > > > For Gateway Grizzlies information: www.gatewaygrizzlies.com > > Gateway Grizzlies Baseball Club 618-337-3000 > > Jackie Marko, Promotions Director > > Kelly Kicielinski, Ticket Sales Associate > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the AMERICAN_ROAD group: The preservation of the actual Route (U.S.) 66 numbered designation should be a major part of any Route 66 preservation effort. The preservation of the 66 number should include, but not be limited to: Installation and maintenance of roadside re-assurance markers and clear, concise directional markers at all junctions and interchanges *AND* the appearance of the familiar 66 "shield" icon on all online and paper maps. In otherwords, any preservation movement to save landmarks and infrastructure should also include saving the 66 numbered desingation itself. o Yes, It should be included o No, just save the pavement and the landmarks To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROA...rveys?id=610849 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russell S. Rein Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Hey all, The header on my e-newsletter should have said "Lincoln Highway E-Newsletter, June, 2006, Vol. 16" Not February. Thanks, slim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Ross Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Fred, While on the surface returning Route 66 to an official US highway might seem a worthy endeavor, it would bring destruction to the roadbed like we've only imagined in our worst nightmares. Though I am still confident this will never occur, if by some bureaucratic debacle it did, the first government mandate would be to bring every stretch of existing first generation paving up to standards, and I don't have to tell you what that means. Frankly, continuing with your crusade is potentially harmful to the future of the road. We have enough on our hands trying to keep transportation departments in check. The last thing we need are more battlefronts like US 281 Spur taking place from one end of the highway to the other. I don't want that and, frankly, I don't understand why you or anyone else would. Luckily, the complex mix of jurisdictions, federal highway policy, the present numbering scheme, the trend toward reducing the number of US highways in favor of Interstates and state highways (not a good thing, but that's another issue), and funding issues all but guarantee this will never happen. Sorry to be blunt, but you could do a lot more for Route 66 by redirecting your efforts toward getting as much surviving historic roadbed on the National Register as possible rather than following a path that can only lead to its destruction. I hope you will give this some thought. Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hank Hallmark Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Here is another event on Route 66 for the benefit of route 66. Please try to come and/or let your friends know about it. If the flyer doesn't come thru go to http://www.abate.org/local44/images/66_flyer.jpg and download the flyer. Ride Safe and Free.... Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rwarn17588 Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 I'm not exactly a dummy, but I'm not sure what the heck I'm voting on with this. Can this be worded a little more clearly so we know what the heck the ballot is about? Until then, I'm abstaining. Ron Warnick Tulsa, OK > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > AMERICAN_ROAD group: > > The preservation of the actual Route > (U.S.) 66 numbered designation should > be a major part of any Route 66 > preservation effort. The preservation > of the 66 number should include, but > not be limited to: Installation and > maintenance of roadside re-assurance > markers and clear, concise directional > markers at all junctions and > interchanges *AND* the appearance of > the familiar 66 "shield" icon on all > online and paper maps. In otherwords, > any preservation movement to save > landmarks and infrastructure should > also include saving the 66 numbered > desingation itself. > > o Yes, It should be included > o No, just save the pavement and the landmarks > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROA...rveys?id=610849 > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups > web site listed above. > > Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred M. Cain Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Does anybody else think this is confusing? Maybe it is. Are my words too big? Or is it my bad grammer? -Fred --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "rwarn17588" <rwarn17588@y...> wrote: > I'm not exactly a dummy, but I'm not sure what the heck I'm voting > on with this. Can this be worded a little more clearly so we know > what the heck the ballot is about? Until then, I'm abstaining. > > Ron Warnick > Tulsa, OK > > > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > > AMERICAN_ROAD group: > > > > The preservation of the actual Route > > (U.S.) 66 numbered designation should > > be a major part of any Route 66 > > preservation effort. The preservation > > of the 66 number should include, but > > not be limited to: Installation and > > maintenance of roadside re-assurance > > markers and clear, concise directional > > markers at all junctions and > > interchanges *AND* the appearance of > > the familiar 66 "shield" icon on all > > online and paper maps. In otherwords, > > any preservation movement to save > > landmarks and infrastructure should > > also include saving the 66 numbered > > desingation itself. > > > > o Yes, It should be included > > o No, just save the pavement and the landmarks > > > > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROA...rveys?id=610849 > > > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are > > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups > > web site listed above. > > > > Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jennifer Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Fred, Let's see...if I understand your question, you want to save the number 66 for the route, and have consistent shields put up along the route (including directional turns), as well as on all online and paper maps? In other words, not necessarily recertify it offically, just sign it that way? The other day, I was on Mapquest looking up the location of our motel and they had 66 marked with a U.S. Highway shield, and the text Old Route 66. Since at least 2000, Microsoft Streets and Trips has *most* of the route marked on their software with a U.S. shield as well as various text markings such as Old 66, Old Route 66, U.S. 66, U.S. Sixty-Six, etc..... Jennifer --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Fred M. Cain" <fredmcain@b...> wrote: > Does anybody else think this is confusing? Maybe it is. Are my > words too big? Or is it my bad grammer? > > -Fred > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "rwarn17588" <rwarn17588@y...> > wrote: > > I'm not exactly a dummy, but I'm not sure what the heck I'm voting > > on with this. Can this be worded a little more clearly so we know > > what the heck the ballot is about? Until then, I'm abstaining. > > > > Ron Warnick > > Tulsa, OK > > > > > > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > > > AMERICAN_ROAD group: > > > > > > The preservation of the actual Route > > > (U.S.) 66 numbered designation should > > > be a major part of any Route 66 > > > preservation effort. The preservation > > > of the 66 number should include, but > > > not be limited to: Installation and > > > maintenance of roadside re-assurance > > > markers and clear, concise directional > > > markers at all junctions and > > > interchanges *AND* the appearance of > > > the familiar 66 "shield" icon on all > > > online and paper maps. In otherwords, > > > any preservation movement to save > > > landmarks and infrastructure should > > > also include saving the 66 numbered > > > desingation itself. > > > > > > o Yes, It should be included > > > o No, just save the pavement and the landmarks > > > > > > > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROA...rveys?id=610849 > > > > > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are > > > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! > Groups > > > web site listed above. > > > > > > Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred M. Cain Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jennifer" <jabremer66@a...> wrote: > Fred, > > Let's see...if I understand your question, you want to save the > number 66 for the route, and have consistent shields put up along the > route (including directional turns), as well as on all online and > paper maps? In other words, not necessarily recertify it offically, > just sign it that way? Yes! That's it! Save the designation regardless as to whether it's re-certified or not > > The other day, I was on Mapquest looking up the location of our motel > and they had 66 marked with a U.S. Highway shield, and the text Old > Route 66. Since at least 2000, Microsoft Streets and Trips has > *most* of the route marked on their software with a U.S. shield as > well as various text markings such as Old 66, Old Route 66, U.S. 66, > U.S. Sixty-Six, etc..... > > Jennifer This is wonderful news! Maybe it'll spread? -Fred > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Fred M. Cain" <fredmcain@b...> > wrote: > > Does anybody else think this is confusing? Maybe it is. Are my > > words too big? Or is it my bad grammer? > > > > -Fred > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "rwarn17588" > <rwarn17588@y...> > > wrote: > > > I'm not exactly a dummy, but I'm not sure what the heck I'm > voting > > > on with this. Can this be worded a little more clearly so we know > > > what the heck the ballot is about? Until then, I'm abstaining. > > > > > > Ron Warnick > > > Tulsa, OK > > > > > > > > > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > > > > AMERICAN_ROAD group: > > > > > > > > The preservation of the actual Route > > > > (U.S.) 66 numbered designation should > > > > be a major part of any Route 66 > > > > preservation effort. The preservation > > > > of the 66 number should include, but > > > > not be limited to: Installation and > > > > maintenance of roadside re-assurance > > > > markers and clear, concise directional > > > > markers at all junctions and > > > > interchanges *AND* the appearance of > > > > the familiar 66 "shield" icon on all > > > > online and paper maps. In otherwords, > > > > any preservation movement to save > > > > landmarks and infrastructure should > > > > also include saving the 66 numbered > > > > desingation itself. > > > > > > > > o Yes, It should be included > > > > o No, just save the pavement and the landmarks > > > > > > > > > > > > To vote, please visit the following web page: > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD/surveys?? id=610849 > > > > > > > > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are > > > > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! > > Groups > > > > web site listed above. > > > > > > > > Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Kinsey Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 There are only 18 days remaining before Charlene and I depart on our great adventure to the Havasupai Reservation in the Grand Canyon. I am including our preliminary plans for the trip. We will be departing Kansas City after lunch on Friday, July 16th and taking US 56 to Great Bend, Kansas. On Saturday morning we will continue on to Dodge City where we will take US 283 South to catch US 54. We will continue on to Tucumari, NM. I have made reservations at the Blue Swallow. On Sunday we will continue west on Route 66 to Gallop, NM and will look for somewhere to stop for the night. On Monday we will tour the Painted Desert and the Petrified Forest and continue west to Peach Springs, AZ. We will be staying at the Haulapai Lodge that evening. Tuesday morning we will continue to Haulapai Hilltop where the Decent Team will proceed to hike to the Campgrounds approximately 10 miles into the Canyon. We will be camping for 4 wonderful nights under the stars and enjoying hikes in the area. On Saturday, July 24th we will depart the area by helicopter and when our gear arrives at the top, we will be driving to Winslow, AZ to spend a the night at the La Posada Hotel. We will depart then on Sunday morning to spend the next 2 days driving to get back to Kansas City. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ken Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Hi Larry! I'm envious indeed! You and Charlene are going to have an adventure of a lifetime! Be sure to bring lots of film, batteries and memory cards. Take your time when you hike, and enjoy the scenery, the falls, and Supai. Get a good grip when decending Mooney Falls. It really isn't that terrifying, it just looks like it is! Q:) I'll be with you in Spirit. God Bless, Safe Journeys, and Happy Trails! P.S. Once again, for those unfamiliar of where Larry and Charlene are going, feel free to check out the Supai photo tour at: <http://photos.yahoo.com/GrandCanyonAdventure> An amazing and one of the best kept secret Route 66 sidebar adventures. the landrunner "To see something that you've never seen before... You have to go somewhere you've never been before." <http://www.postmarkart.com/links.htm> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Larry Kinsey <alf@m...> wrote: > There are only 18 days remaining before Charlene and I depart on our great > adventure to the Havasupai Reservation in the Grand Canyon. I am including > our preliminary plans for the trip. > > We will be departing Kansas City after lunch on Friday, July 16th and > taking US 56 to Great Bend, Kansas. > > On Saturday morning we will continue on to Dodge City where we will take US > 283 South to catch US 54. We will continue on to Tucumari, NM. I have > made reservations at the Blue Swallow. > > On Sunday we will continue west on Route 66 to Gallop, NM and will look for > somewhere to stop for the night. > > On Monday we will tour the Painted Desert and the Petrified Forest and > continue west to Peach Springs, AZ. We will be staying at the Haulapai > Lodge that evening. > > Tuesday morning we will continue to Haulapai Hilltop where the Decent Team > will proceed to hike to the Campgrounds approximately 10 miles into the Canyon. > > We will be camping for 4 wonderful nights under the stars and enjoying > hikes in the area. > > On Saturday, July 24th we will depart the area by helicopter and when our > gear arrives at the top, we will be driving to Winslow, AZ to spend a the > night at the La Posada Hotel. > > We will depart then on Sunday morning to spend the next 2 days driving to > get back to Kansas City. > > Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ken Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Jim, Fred is supporting the signage of US66 and/or possibly Historic Route 66, uniformly for the entire route. This promotion of awareness does not necessarily need to be a campaign to reinstate the route as an official US highway. Of course as you've mentioned, the latter would certainly create destruction by the process of upgrading the roadbed to current highway standards. This process is slowly happening anyway, with no prejudice to any of our old historic two lane highways. Our very own new standard autos, trucks and increased amount of traffic alone will dictate that outcome. I agree with you about having as much roadbed as possible be listed on the National Historic Register, but the roadbed will still continue to age as time passes on, and those roadbeds will eventually need more repair... which just might lead back to the same beginning predicament of having the original road improved to todays standards. Just a thought. God Bless and Happy Trails. the landrunner <http://www.postmarkart.com/links.htm> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Ross" <pathfinder66@e...> wrote: > Fred, > > While on the surface returning Route 66 to an official US highway might seem a worthy endeavor, it would bring destruction to the roadbed like we've only imagined in our worst nightmares. Though I am still confident this will never occur, if by some bureaucratic debacle it did, the first government mandate would be to bring every stretch of existing first generation paving up to standards, and I don't have to tell you what that means. > > Frankly, continuing with your crusade is potentially harmful to the future of the road. We have enough on our hands trying to keep transportation departments in check. The last thing we need are more battlefronts like US 281 Spur taking place from one end of the highway to the other. I don't want that and, frankly, I don't understand why you or anyone else would. > > Luckily, the complex mix of jurisdictions, federal highway policy, the present numbering scheme, the trend toward reducing the number of US highways in favor of Interstates and state highways (not a good thing, but that's another issue), and funding issues all but guarantee this will never happen. > > Sorry to be blunt, but you could do a lot more for Route 66 by redirecting your efforts toward getting as much surviving historic roadbed on the National Register as possible rather than following a path that can only lead to its destruction. I hope you will give this some thought. > > Jim R. > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest rwarn17588 Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Here's a listing of campgrounds and RV parks on or near Route 66. I know there've been a few requests here for such a list. Now there's one available. http://rwarn17588.wordpress.com/campgrounds/ Ron Warnick Tulsa, OK www.route66news.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Hi Evelyn, What a great story - a story that illustrates the resiliance that made this country one of the greatest!! I have a couple of little stories about those long ago days I'd like to share, even tho they aren't, really, road related - except I can remember, during WWII, being late to school a couple times because big Army convoys were going thru town on Route 1. But, in October 1947 we here in Maine experienced devestating forest fires - you go thru something like that and it stays with you. I was 10 that year, but I remember a lot of that week (As Joyce Butlers book title says, The Week Maine Burned). But it was the stories after that stay in one's mind. Like the farmer near here who got burned out. The Red Cross came around after the fires listing what everyone had lost and this farmer thought for a moment and said "We lost a sow and 12 piglets." His wife spoke up saying "You've forgotten, Dear, we ate one of those piglets". "Oh, yes," he replied, "Put down one sow and 11 piglets." I can't help but contrast that with today - those pigs would have multiplied by 5 fold at least. People back then picked up, made do, fixed up or went without. Hard to imagine isn't it. We weren't "poor" folks in the 1930's and 1940's - we had a roof over our heads, food on the table and a house full of love. I remember one Christmas, I was 4, maybe 5, and times were thin. Dad was working steady, WWII was on the horizon, we had enough to get by. That Christmas when I was 4, maybe 5, I got the most wonderful Christmas present - a Lionel train. It was only a circle of track, locomotive, tender 3, 4 cars and a caboose - and it was not new. But it didn't make a tad of difference to me. Down Maine on roads such as Route 1 and Route 2 in the 1930's, in the winter time, needed deliveries by trucking companies were, many times, halted by roads blocked with snow. One company put out a call and men, and boys 15 up, came to the roads from miles on either side and dug the roads out by hand. Those were depression times and even 50 cents an hour, or whatever was paid, was money for food and clothes and boots. Towns put men to work sweeping the streets in the towns - compare that to today. Sometimes I think maybe we need to go back to those days - make everybody live that way for a few months so they'll begin, maybe, to understand and appreciate what we have today. Happy Travels Hudsonly, Alex B --- Evelyn Phillips <elp@antiquesbyevelyn.com> wrote: > Hi: > > Guess I need to jump in here about the South end of > the pictures > attached.Short History (Maybe longer than you want, > but please indulge > and old lady): > > My parents were both born and raised in Wayland, MO. > (directions shown > in a couple of the pictures). Both are buried in > Kahoka, MO about 10 > miles off the new Avenue of the Saints road. Where > the toll booth is, > was there as long ago as 60+ years (probably was > redone during that > time). We came down through Donnellson (SP?) and > across the Des Moines > River Bridge at the Toll Booth which is on the MO > side, every year since > I can remember. You could also get to Wayland by > going in on 218 to > Keokuk, Iowa, and coming out through 7th Street in > Keokuk where you > would cross the Des Moines River Bridge at > Alexandria, the first > immediate town on the other side of the bridge in > MO. And the bridge was > so narrow I held my breath every time we crossed. > One of my cousins was > killed on a motorcycle on that bridge. I think > that's why we always > came in the "back" way through St. F. (Side Note: > The Des Moines River > overflowed at Alexandria, MO. In 1947. The entire > town of Alexandria > was under water, which was over the telephone > poles.) > > My parents lived on neighboring farms between > Wayland and St. F - that's > what it was and is called by the locals-almost never > St Francisville. > As a child, my dad and three brothers and one sister > (and of course, my > grandparents) lived in a one room log cabin in St. > F. My grandfather > farmed as a tenant farmer for the rent of the cabin. > The cabin was torn > down in 1975. When my dad was 10, and from then on, > he had to leave > school every year on April 1st to get into the > fields and farm. He > walked behind a plow and horse for 8 hours every day > to help pay for the > one room log cabin. My paternal grandfather and > most of my dad's family > is in the Sand Cemetery in St. F. (about two blocks > off the new > highway). He first met my mother when they were > both five years old. > Neither ever "went" with anyone else. When he > started working in the > fields on April 1, my mother still had to go to > school (one room school > house by the name of Bartlett School also on "B" ) > until May 1st. They > would send notes back and forth with my dad's > youngest brother who was > too young yet to work in the fields. > > My mother was one of five sisters and two brothers. > My mom was the > youngest. When she was five years old, my maternal > grandfather was > working on the building of the Keokuk Dam on the > Mississippi River at > Keokuk. That would have been in 1911-12. In those > days, there was no > such thing as workers' comp insurance, but the pay > was good with the > understanding that if one wasn't careful when > pouring cement, the > pouring would not stop if anyone fell in. Well, my > grandfather is in > the Keokuk dam. One day he just didn't come home. > About two days later > a couple of the men he rode with came and told my > grandmother that she > and her seven children were on their own. They had > seen him fall. My > grandmother never quite recovered. My oldest uncle > at age 14 supported > the family and alone farmed 200 acres so the family > could stay together > and survive. This farm is still there on "C". > You'll note in the > pictures the road which lead to St. F. in MO was > shown as "B". "C" is > just off "B" between Wayland and St. F. I was there > last year, and will > be going again as soon as this heat wave breaks here > in the Illinois > Quad-Cities. My cousin and I still go every year. > We used to go on > Memorial Day every year. However, all the aunts and > uncles are dead. > There is no one left of our families in Wayland, and > only one cousin in > Kahoka. My parents were married 56 years and my dad > went to Chicago to > get a job, and my mother followed him. They were > married in Oak Park, > Illinois and my brother and I were born in Chicago. > When I was a child > we went for two weeks every summer to Wayland and > St. F and those were > the happiest days of my childhood and almost the > only ones I can even > remember anymore. I'm now 70. > > When I go there probably sometime in August or > September, I will also > take some pictures of the farm, the cemetery in St. > F. and other > nostalgic points of interest. Thanks for sharing > these pictures and > bringing back so many memories. > > Evelyn L. Phillips > elp@antiquesbyevelyn.com > http://www.antiquesbyevelyn.com > <http://www.antiquesbyevelyn.com/> > http://www.antiquesbyevelyn.com/ebay/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > Pat B. > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 7:46 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] US 61 (was: Re: US 67) > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <rudkip@s...> > wrote: > > I have done that bridge...used to do it enroute up > to > Minneapollis...you > > take a farm to market road ( until you cross the > Des Moines River > at St. > > Francisville...the place would fit well in a Burt > Reynolds "Gator" > or "White > > Lightning" type movie...I was looking at the 2005 > map of Mo and there > is now > > a State Highway (SR 27) that cuts right through > there...hope it did > not > > exnay this very bizarre little bit of blue highway > driving...Tsingtao > Kip > > The bridge is still there, but its future appears to > be in jeopardy. A > new 4 lane bridge was built along side and the toll > booth closed. I > found some pictures on this site: > http://www.angelfire.com/ia/jdmorrison/ends/ia27.html > > Pat B. > > > > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 > WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, > Lynnwood, WA > 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a > message via e-mail, > send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > === message truncated === A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? 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Guest dancewithyou2 Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Hi, Angelica. I know it's been a few days since you asked, but I am just now getting caught up on emails. :-) You said you like short trips so I am assuming that your question about where 66 leads is more local than nationally. If I remember correctly, Del City is near OKC. So from OKC east 66 goes through Edmond, Arcadia (round barn), Wellston (take route through town), Stroud (lots to see there especially the Rock Cafe), Chandeller, Bristow, Kellyville (old cabins just to the east), Sapulpa, Tulsa, Catoosa (blue whale), Vinita, Afton (stop at Laurel's renovated gas station), Miami (just past Afton, there are two sections of old 9 foot wide portions of old rt 66 that are still drivable). The road goes on through Commerce and Quawpa, then into Kansas. There are other things like the old rt 66 shoe tree and the twin bridges over the vertigris river along that route. To the west, I am not as familiar, but I know there are sights such as old El Reno (I believe it was an old fort from Indian Territory days) and a lot more that I am not familiar with. I live in the Tulsa area and love the short road trips like that too. Ken Glenpool, OK --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Brenda & Angelica" <angelicabrewer@s...> wrote: > Hi everyone. I wanted to introduce myself. My name is Angelica, but > everyone calls me GEL. My partner Brenda and I have a 13 year old son > named Tyler. We love to travel! We specifically like short trips on > the country backroads. I thought this group would be a nice place to > meet others who enjoy traveling. We do not have a camper (though I > dream of getting one someday) so for now we are sticking to the closest > spots. I've never traveled route 66 (except through the city). Does > anyone have an idea of where this road would lead? > > We live in Del City, Oklahoma. (near Route 66) > > GEL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 I want to know what they are doing with the video data. Could there be a collaboration with Sony Playstation games? I fancy myself a flight and driving simulator geek. Could there be a virtual "Drive 66" game? Imagine the video travelogues! I already have the "Cars" game for Playstation, but haven't the time to try it out, (there will be a review in our future). I can't believe I used the phrase "I fancy myself". Where the heck did that come from? . . more coffee, . . anyone? --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "D Stearns" <d_stearns@...> wrote: > > Has anyone see them out in the Midwest yet..? > > > From: "Chris" <chris@...> > Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Fellow Cartographigeeks! > Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 04:13:48 -0000 > > . . more from New Hampshire! "spatial information science and engineering" > > > Mapping NH in an orange van > By SHAWNE K. WICKHAM > Union Leader Staff > Sunday, Jul. 2, 2006 > > Lebanon – Jeremy Onysko is accustomed to the curious stares from other > drivers and the > wisecracks about "Big Brother watching." > > After all, the 2006 University of New Hampshire graduate is spending his > summer driving > around in a bright orange van with four cameras mounted on its roof, along > with a GPS > antenna that looks a bit like a 1950s-vintage flying saucer. > > The Toyota Sienna — with its slogan: "We're mapping your world" — is one of > 10 mobile > mapping vans that hit the road last December for Tele Atlas. The Lebanon > company is > mapping all 120,000 miles of America's limited-access highways this summer, > according > to Jay Benson, vice president of business planning. > > http://tinyurl.com/old69 > > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <chris@> wrote: > > > > I saw one of these, Southbound I-295 near Moorestown, NJ today ... > > > > "Mobile Mapping vehicles – Equipped with: six digital cameras that > capture > > both still and moving images, with at least two configured as stereopair; > > precisely tuned positioning devices, including a GPS receiver, gyroscope, > > odometer, and computer equipment for efficient data collection, storage, > > and processing." > > > > http://www.teleatlas.com/Pub/Products/Mobi...pping/index.htm > > > > > > SIX CAMERAS!!!! > > These were the big security buggers like they have scanning the parking > > lot at Walmart!!!! . . Mounted on the roof of a compact car! Plus the GPS > > unit that I see on a lot of big semi trucks. . . . . Nice toys!! > > Tried to get on camera, but the driver took an exit before I could get > close. > > > > How do I get that gig??? > > ... Chris > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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