Guest Pat B. Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <chris@e...> wrote: Or was it tires? > ..Chris Chris, Was it this post from the landrunner? http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/AMER...AD/message/1510 Pat B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 It was a stagecoach that turned over. The marker ( http://www.route40.net/culture/attractions-oh.shtml about 1/3 page down) says first traffic fatality "on record in this state". There may have been earlier fatalities on the road in other states and there may have even been some earlier in Ohio that were "off record". --Denny > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Smallwood [mailto:mattinwilmington3@yahoo.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 4:00 AM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Question about Baker's Motel - > Zanesville > > > What was that first fatality, Cristy? A fall from a horse or > wagon....or was it in the early part of the 20th century and > possibly attributed to an auto accident? > > Matt Smallwood > > Cristy <clfritz@yahoo.com> wrote: > That part of Ohio is a great part of the National Road. There are > still some original mile markers (I have pictures of every one in > Ohio) S-bridges, original bridges and if you are observant, you can > find parts of the original road. Norwich (the small town near the > motel) was the site of the first recorded fatality on the National > Road. Enjoy your trip. > > Cristy > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@...> wrote: > > > > Welcome to the group and thanks for verifying that Baker's is what > it looks > > like. You can't beat hearing from someone who has actually stayed at a > > motel. > > > > I have visited the National Road Museum and it and the road itself > are what > > draws me to that area. And it is Baker's proximity to the museum that > > attracted me to it. I've also stopped at the Glenn house twice but > it was > > closed both times. No fault of theirs - just bad timing on my part. > > > > --Denny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest William Cashman Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 ----- Original Message ----- From: sundayjohn66 L.A.'s air really is nasty. The mountains are a big part of the problem out there ... they trap all the exhaust fumes and stuff, and there's just nowhere for it to go. We left L.A. in 1968, at that time "they" were considering drilling tunnels through the mountains and installing exhaust fans to help get rid of the smog. This has proven to be unnecessary, as the air quality in the surrounding desert is now just as bad as L.A. Cya l8r, Bill There are two theories to arguing with women. Neither one works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest George Ashburn Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I love this part of Ohio. I make it a point to eat breakfast or lunch at Mickey's on US 40. (Great Fried Chicken & Great Omelettes.) --- Cristy <clfritz@yahoo.com> wrote: > That part of Ohio is a great part of the National > Road. There are > still some original mile markers (I have pictures of > every one in > Ohio) S-bridges, original bridges and if you are > observant, you can > find parts of the original road. Norwich (the small > town near the > motel) was the site of the first recorded fatality > on the National > Road. Enjoy your trip. > > Cristy > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" > <denny@...> wrote: > > > > Welcome to the group and thanks for verifying that > Baker's is what > it looks > > like. You can't beat hearing from someone who has > actually stayed at a > > motel. > > > > I have visited the National Road Museum and it and > the road itself > are what > > draws me to that area. And it is Baker's proximity > to the museum that > > attracted me to it. I've also stopped at the Glenn > house twice but > it was > > closed both times. No fault of theirs - just bad > timing on my part. > > > > --Denny George Ashburn - http://www.geocities.com/jamdawg1/index.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fran Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Hi Everybody, Great things are happening in Cuba! Two historic buildings on Route 66 have been purchased by local people and are going to be restored and renovated. This is really good news since recently the opposite has happened to a few other building on 66 here in Cuba. The two purchases are the Cuba Hotel (built in 1915) and the Murta House (built in or around 1926). The new owner of the Cuba Hotel is planning to restore the outside to the original look it had in the early years of service as the top hotel in Cuba. The inside will be made into apartments. The new owner of the Murta House is going to restore the outside and renovate the inside to serve as a Bed and Breakfast for travelers along Route 66. Her plans are to be ready for the summer tourists. Positive things are happening in Cuba and I'm glad I can share this good news with everyone. Fran in Cuba, MO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim conkle Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Hello to you one and all, Just to bring you up to date on the upcoming event June 22nd to the 25th. I will be in Albuquerque next week for meetings with Steve/Bruce and their group on Tuesday & Wednesday then the National Park Service Advisory Council meeting Thursday & Friday. The event is going well and we will have a complete agenda for publication later this month. Just a little heads up of some of the things that will happen; Tuesday & Wednesday the 20th & 21st will be the Preservation Symposium put on by the NPS, Thursday we will have the Summit meeting, Sunday the E-Group breakfast the usual events that roadies show an interest in. There will be a few major changes though that are indented to add more value to the event. It will be a 'sit down' dinner, not a buffet, for the awards event. We are going to be a little more formal although regular street clothes will be acceptable, no one will be turned away at the door. But the event will take on a different look. The entire evening will have a producer and stage manager to keep the event moving. Yes there will be entertainment and possibly dancing afterwards. Artists/Authors/Craftspeople will be featured in the local newspapers and other forms of media. We will have a 'media person' setting this up before and during the event. Any feedback from those of you that are in this group as to the best way to showcase all of you can be sent to Helen or myself. Helen Baker has had some family matters that have kept her away from home and will be back in the loop shortly. For those of you that have tried to reach her with no success please channel your requests to me. The folks in NM that are involved are passionate about the road and are working hard to ensure the events success. Michael Wallis, Helen Baker, myself and others involved are also committed to the success of this years and all future years events. We are open for suggestions, ideas, advice or criticism if you want to share them with us. Thanks Take care and see you on the road. James M Conkle Preservationist-Speaker-Marketer-Spokesperson-Public Relations-Event Planner Route 66 Preservation Foundation Preservation of Historic Roads & Corridors P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760 868 3320 760 617 3991 cell 760 868 8614 fax jimconkle@verizon.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WALTER HACKNEY Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Gas stations along Route 40 - Aurora (east Denver) CO 1962 16101 East Colfax Ave. ~ Carl's Super Service ~ 6-9060 15611 East Colfax Ave. ~ Altura Dixie Service ~ 4-9965 15291 East Colfax Ave. ~ Aurora Oil Co ~ 364-9901 14111 East Colfax Ave. ~ Gilmer Oil ~ 366-9040 13180 East Colfax Ave. ~ Pete's Mobil Service and Garage ~ 6-9090 12796 East Colfax Ave. ~ Voight Oil Co ~ 6-9018 11617 East Colfax Ave. ~ H & J Texaco Service Station ~ 6-9030 11500 East Colfax Ave. ~ Henry's Conoco ~ 6-9395 11479 East Colfax Ave. ~ Anderson's Shamrock Service Station ~ 6-9088 11300 East Colfax Ave. ~ Pete's Standard Service ~ 6-9024 11095 East Colfax Ave. ~ Aurora Mobil Service ~ 6-0709 10857 East Colfax Ave. ~ Aurora Oil Co ~ 4-4535 10800 East Colfax Ave. ~ Jamaica Chevron ~ 4-0357 10501 East Colfax Ave. ~ Havana Enco Service ~ 4-0203 10195 East Colfax Ave. ~ Robbie's Standard Station ~ 6-9136 9800 East Colfax Ave. ~ Ollie Davis Texaco ~ 366-9293 9755 East Colfax Ave. ~ Harold's Service Station ~ 6-9027 9445 East Colfax Ave. ~ Chuck's Sav-Mor Service ~ 6-9335 9300 East Colfax Ave. ~ Aurora Oil Co ~ 6-7470 8950 East Colfax Ave. ~ Navajo Cabins and Service Station ~ 6-9365 Walt Hackney Gyrfal@Juno.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim conkle Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Check out our web site at www.2006route66festival to keep up to date on the event. Hope to see all of you in Albuquerque in June of 2006. Take care and see you on the road. James M Conkle Preservationist-Speaker-Marketer-Spokesperson-Public Relations-Event Planner Route 66 Preservation Foundation Preservation of Historic Roads & Corridors P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760 868 3320 760 617 3991 cell 760 868 8614 fax jimconkle@verizon.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roaddog_rt66 Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Piotrowski" <rt66prods@...> wrote: > > Three words for you: > Soda > Pop > Stop > > Soda Pop Stop and Galco's Old World Market in Highland Park (Los > Angeles), California, can be found online at www.sodapopstop.com or > in the Federation News a couple of years ago, when I wrote an > article about them. The business has around 500 different sodas > from across the country, many of them the old-fashioned recipes. > They are located just off of US-66, about halfway between the > Construction and Alternate Alignments. Let them know I sent you! > > Scott Piotrowski, Director > 66 Productions > www.66productions.com > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "roaddog_rt66" > <roaddog_rt66@> wrote: > > > > Or is it? The next time you're tooling down the road, or in your > > neighborhood, stop in at a Mexican grocery store and order a > Mexican > > Coca Cola. Ask for one at your favorite Mexican eatery. > > > > In an article from the Medill News Service, Juan Carlos Hernandez > > states that a Coke from Mexico is not like one you get from the > US. > > According to him, besides coming in a bottle (and it won't be long > > before our kids won't even know what a bottle of pop is other than > > special editions), Mexican Coke includes sugar made from > sugarcane. > > This is a lot sweeter than US Coke which gets its sweetness from > corn > > syrup. > > > > It will cost a bit more, but, I believe variety is the spice of > life. > > I, myself, haven't tried one yet. Perhaps we can get some insight > > from someone. > > > > Drinking that Sweet Coke down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog > >Thanks for the info. We'll be out that way in the fall and will stop by. I went to the site and saw that they had all sorts of rare and hard-to-get sodas, including Berghoff's Chicago's Famous Root Beer, but it was out of stock, and not likely to be back in with the imminent demise of that place. There were also some cane sugar ones. I also will check out their candy, some of which I haven't seem for years like bubble gum cigarettes (talk about your politically incorrect candy), Mallo Cups, Clove Chewing Gum, and candy buttons. If any of you would like to take a mini trip back to days gone by, this is a good place to go. By the way, do you call them soft drinks, sodas, or pops. I have heard that you can tell where someone is from by how they refer to those carbonated drinks. Anyone out there have any opinions? Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WALTER HACKNEY Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 This is part 2 of 3 parts ~ gas stations along Colfax Ave (route 40) through Denver. I have broken the 24 plus miles of Colfax Ave. in the Denver metro area into three sections - East (Aurora CO), central (Denver, CO) and West (Lakewood and Golden, CO) and will post more information as I find time to continue the research. Denver, Co Gas Stations in 1962, from East to West: 8740 East Colfax Ave. ~ Oriental Service Stations of Denver ~ 8330 East Colfax Ave. ~ Couch's Service Center ~ EA 2-5667 8275 East Colfax Ave. ~ Sinclair Service Station ~ EA 2-9738 (Personal note - I worked at this station as my high school summer job in 1975 - WH) 8095 East Colfax Ave. ~ C & C "66" Service Station ~ FR 7-9834 8000 East Colfax Ave. ~ Air Line Chevron ~ 399-1624 7945 East Colfax Ave. ~ Burns Service ~ EA 2-9721 7901 East Colfax Ave. ~ Site Service Station ~ DE 3-9842 7801 East Colfax Ave. ~ Capra Texaco Service ~ FL 5-1184 7701 East Colfax Ave. ~ Colfax Conoco Service Station ~ 388-9029 7700 East Colfax Ave. ~ Syracuse Standard Service ~ FR 7-8715 7625 East Colfax Ave. ~ Airport Mobil Service ~ DE 3-1048 7425 East Colfax Ave. ~ Roslyn Service Station ~ EA 2-9795 7400 East Colfax Ave. ~ Teneco Service ~ 7327 East Colfax Ave. ~ Sweeney Standard Service ~ FR 7-9944 7200 East Colfax Ave. ~ Popular Gulf Service ~ DE 3-9732 7001 East Colfax Ave. ~ Roger's Skelly Service Station ~ EA 2-9720 6875 East Colfax Ave. ~ Frank's Sinclair Service ~ DU 8-9066 6600 East Colfax Ave. ~ Bob's Texaco Service ~ DU 8-9020 6330 East Colfax Ave. ~ Garrison's Super Service ~ EA 2-9872 5995 East Colfax Ave. ~ KOA Chevron Service ~ DU 8-1462 5890 East Colfax Ave. ~ Wagoner Skelly Service ~ EA 2-9896 5315 East Colfax Ave. ~ Glencoe Conoco Station ~ EA 2-9777 5145 East Colfax Ave. ~ D F Fainter Standard Service ~ FR 7-9835 4860 East Colfax Ave. ~ Don's Skelly Service ~ 388-9082 4839 East Colfax Ave. ~ Eudora "66" Servioce ~ EA 2-9905 4800 East Colfax Ave. ~ Col-Den Oil Co ~ FR 7-9855 4734 East Colfax Ave. ~ Kurt Steckel Texaco ~ FL 5-0610 4690 East Colfax Ave. ~ Dexter Chevron Station ~ DE 3-9850 4539 East Colfax Ave. ~ Steve's Enco Service ~ De 3-9817 4500 East Colfax Ave. ~ K-V Gas and Oil co ~ EA 2-9725 4230 East Colfax Ave. ~ Charlie's Gulf Service ~ DU 8-9956 4100 East Colfax Ave. ~ Colfax Sav-Mor Gas ~ DE 3-9818 3801 East Colfax Ave. ~ Harry K's Texaco Service ~ EA 2-9947 3700 East Colfax Ave. ~ Garfield Sinclair Service Station ~ DU 8-6941 3495 East Colfax Ave. ~ Blattner's Service Station ~ FR 7-9912 3400 East Colfax Ave. ~ Anderson Service Station ~ FR 7-9801 3175 East Colfax Ave. ~ Stanley Steele Service ~ EA 2-9287 2730 East Colfax Ave. ~ Detroit Service Station ~ DE 3-9987 2424 East Colfax Ave. ~ Black and White Service ~ FR 7-8818 2341 East Colfax Ave. ~ East Hi Chevron Service ~ De 3-9980 2101 East Colfax Ave. ~ Bartlett Standard Service ~ EA 2-9766 1925 East Colfax Ave. ~ Hiatt Service Station ~ de 3-9721 1895 East Colfax Ave. ~ Saunders Sinclair Service Station ~ FR 7-9970 1601 East Colfax Ave. ~ Woody's Conoco Service ~ FR 7-9956 1331 East Colfax Ave. ~ Tenneco Service Station ~ 244-9938 1238 East Colfax Ave. ~ Knutson Brothers Service ~ CH 4-3315 1101 East Colfax Ave. ~ C & D Mobil Service ~ KE 4-5652 1010 East Colfax Ave. ~ Capitol Hill 66 Service ~ TA 5-9826 939 East Colfax Ave. ~ Cal-Oil Chevron Service Station ~ 244-9990 900 East Colfax Ave. ~ S & S Sav More Service ~ MA 3-9903 638 East Colfax Ave. ~ Ernie's Stamdard Service station ~ KE 4-9423 515 West Colfax Ave. ~ Downtown Chevron Service ~ KE 4-9446 1305 West Colfax Ave. ~ Norm's Servicenter ~ TA 5-9439 2056 West Colfax Ave. ~ National Oil Service Stations ~ MA 3-9600 3411 West Colfax Ave. ~ Conoco Station No 36 ~ TA 5-9890 3501 West Colfax Ave. ~ Harvey's Tenneco ~ KE 4-9332 3600 West Colfax Ave. ~ Park Texaco ~ 244-9993 3840 West Colfax Ave. ~ Mars Oil Co ~ 534-2975 3940 West Colfax Ave. ~ Siegel Service Station ~ KE 4-9180 4035 West Colfax Ave. ~ VanSickles Forty Hi ~ AL 5-2413 4190 West Colfax Ave. ~ Leland's Conoco Service ~ TA 5-9838 4200 West Colfax Ave. ~ Jeff's Texaco Service ~ KE 4-9871 4250 West Colfax Ave. ~ Mel's Skelly Service ~ MA 3-3952 4300 West Colfax Ave. ~ Horner Gulf Service Station ~ KE 4-9538 4707 West Colfax Ave. ~ Siote Service Station ~ CH 4-9481 4740 West Colfax Ave. ~ Chub's "66" Service ~ TA 5-9653 Please check out my Webshots photo albums of Colorado roadside and neon ~~ http://community.webshots.com/user/route40roadtrip Walt Hackney Gyrfal@Juno.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WALTER HACKNEY Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 I have added two albums to my Webshots account - ~~Some photos I took in 2001 of Colfax Ave (Route 40) in East Denver - several of these businesses are also in the "Neon" album ~~Some photos of a day trip into the mountains along Route 40 out of Denver last December; mostly photos of Idaho Springs, CO. Please follow the link if you are interested - http://community.webshots.com/user/route40roadtrip Thanks -- Walt Hackney Gyrfal@Juno.com Denver, Colorado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roamndav Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Hi everyone...ever since the New Year, work has been CA-Raze-Zee! Sorry took so long to post these, but I created a folder in the 'PHOTOS' section for some pics I took of old U.S. 30 and the Lincoln Highway when I was home in Iowa over the Christmas/New Year's break. Sorry the pics are so dark, but hey, these were taken around the shortest day of the year in the late afternoon! Thankfully, at least the sun was out! It was heartening to see as almost all of the small towns along the stretch had murals, signs and other reminders of U.S.30, the Lincoln Highway or both! The files are 1) Witt, IA - A helpful Lincoln Hwy marker on a telephone pole. Many towns had little signs like these to help you along. 2) Lowden, IA - Abandoned stretch of probable Lincoln Hwy concrete! Next three pics are from just west of Wheatland, IA 3) An old concrete bridge typical of many along this stretch of old roadbed. You know these date to the Lincoln Hwy era! 4) A pic of a larger old concrete bridge. This was just west of the old iron bridge (next pic) 5) Old iron bridge just north of modern 30 about a mile west of Wheatland. A small access road gives you access to this strecth for a terrific multiple mile drive of old road. Sorry it's been so long, hope everyone/s been well and I hope to hit the boards more as I''ve got some goodies to share!! Cheers, Jeff in Tucson (formerly of Iowa for those first 25 'formative' years)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Hey Jeff, Great photos - those aren't to dark. Makes me want to get out of this snow belt and head out on a road trip somewhere - anywhere but New England!!! LOL Hudsonly, Alex B --- roamndav <roamndav@verizon.net> wrote: > > Hi everyone...ever since the New Year, work has been > CA-Raze-Zee! > Sorry took so long to post these, but I created a > folder in > the 'PHOTOS' section for some pics I took of old > U.S. 30 and the > Lincoln Highway when I was home in Iowa over the > Christmas/New Year's > break. Sorry the pics are so dark, but hey, these > were taken around > the shortest day of the year in the late afternoon! > Thankfully, at > least the sun was out! > > It was heartening to see as almost all of the small > towns along the > stretch had murals, signs and other reminders of > U.S.30, the Lincoln > Highway or both! > > The files are > 1) Witt, IA - A helpful Lincoln Hwy marker on a > telephone pole. Many > towns had little signs like these to help you along. > 2) Lowden, IA - Abandoned stretch of probable > Lincoln Hwy concrete! > Next three pics are from just west of Wheatland, IA > 3) An old concrete bridge typical of many along this > stretch of old > roadbed. You know these date to the Lincoln Hwy > era! > 4) A pic of a larger old concrete bridge. This was > just west of the > old iron bridge (next pic) > 5) Old iron bridge just north of modern 30 about a > mile west of > Wheatland. A small access road gives you access to > this strecth for > a terrific multiple mile drive of old road. > > Sorry it's been so long, hope everyone/s been well > and I hope to hit > the boards more as I''ve got some goodies to share!! > > Cheers, > Jeff in Tucson (formerly of Iowa for those first 25 > 'formative' > years)! > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Betaket Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Dear Members I am looking for a contractor company who can do road / highway construction in Indonesia by doing a turn key or built operate transfer. Kindly advice in return to my private email betaket at yahoo.com Best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Michalek Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 I caught this while doing research for my Highway 41 book. It's in Southeastern Wisconsin, between Kenosha and Lake Geneva on State Road 50. Pick up some corn and eggs at a farm stand and learn why so many food processors tout "fresh" in their ads. http://www.fairwynfarms.com/corn_maze.htm You may remember the maze from Monday Night Football in 2002, during a Packer-Bear game. John Madden kept flashing it on the screen, but never telling anyone where it is. Well, now you know. I'll see you there soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Hi Everyone, I just completed, more or less, the first in a series of short road trips, "Memphis Day Trips", on my Road Trips web site @: http://www.freewebs.com/yankeetraveller/index.htm Click on Memphis Day Trips - or any of the other links at the top of the page. I'll have some more to add next winter when I make my yearly trek to visit with my daughter - she's planning on quitting working in about 6 months so perhaps we'll be able to do several trips together on. Enjoy - hope this work is entertaining and interesting to y'all. Safe Travels. Hudsonly, Alex B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jenniferrt66 Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Betaket <betaket@i...> wrote: > Dear Members > > I am looking for a contractor company who can do road / highway construction in Indonesia by doing a turn key or built operate transfer. Kindly advice in return to my private email betaket at yahoo.com > > Best > Hello! Unless we happen to have a member here who is a heavy/highway contractor (anyone, anyone?), our group is not about road construction, so to speak. Although we do have conversations about concrete and road construction sometimes, it is primarily geared toward discussion about historic U.S. Highways and road travel, etc. But I approved your post in case there is anyone who can help. Good luck! Jennifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David G. Clark Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Joliet Area Historical Museum -- Sunday May 21, 2:00 p.m. Today's traveler can still drive most of old Route 66 from Joliet to Chicago's lakefront without encountering much expressway driving. But, historic structures and buildings are increasingly disappearing or are endangered because of development and "progress." From Joliet's Ruby Street Bridge to Chicago's Buckingham Fountain, Highway Historian and Route 66 author, David Clark, takes us on a slide show tour of the historic sights still seen on the road today as well as the sites where important structures once stood. This program is great for those interested in "doing 66," but who don't have more than a day to spare! The cost of this program is FREE for Museum members, Route 66 Association of Illinois members, and $3 for non-members. Advance registration and payment is required and can be made by calling the Museum at 815-723-5201 ext. 235 or 226. The Joliet Area Historical Museum is located at 204 N. Ottawa Street, Joliet, IL 60432 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 I noticed several "not founds" originating from my earlier message. The correct URL is http://www.dennygibson.com/bbash04 in case anyone is still interested. What I did was end a sentence with the URL (it often seems so natural) and Yahoo (or something else along the way) included the period as part of the URL. That's happened before but I guess I'm a slow learner. Putting URLs on lines by themselves may be the only safe way to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Just drove the Easternmost end of 40 yesterday. Beginning to look like the rest of Joisey as I see it. A few good landmarks left, . . . I just googled this. http://www.route40.net/culture/mufflerman.shtml Also found it hard to recognize Rt 322 (Black Horse Pike). Anyone remember a very small Fantasy Amusement Park called "Adventure Village" on 322? ... Chris NJ Exit 7-A --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Ward" <flyboy1946@...> wrote: > > Frank, > > Thanks for the information and comparison between the Stewart book and the Vale's book. I've only had my copy for 6-7 years but I can remember growing up in Marion, Illinois, a small town of about 10,000 folks in the southern part of the state, and checking Stewart's book out of the library numerable times just to daydream that I was traveling down U.S. 40 and not sitting my bedroom. > > Mike Ward > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brusca, Frank<mailto:fbrusca@...> > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com<mailto: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 5:41 AM > Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-40 Book/Picture question > > > I think the photo error was one of those oops moments for Stewart. He corrected it and moved on. > > > > Of the Vales' omissions, here are some likely rationale for their coverage (and lack thereof): > > > > New Castle - The original photo was shot from a ferry boat. Since the ferry was discontinued in 1951, I am hiring a charter boat to take me mid river. > > > > Bush River - I'm perplexed over this omission. The location is very easy to find. > > > > Ridge & Valley - ditto. > > > > Narrows - ditto. > > > > Coal Mine - The site is easy to find, however the mountain is not heavily forested. They probably elected not to shoot this scene since a contemporary photo is difficult to achieve. I've done some winter photography at a nearby location. > > > > Mileposts - These three sites are very easy to find. All three signs are now gone, though, and that may have been the reason the Vales didn't try to replicate the scenes. The cast iron milepost is now in a museum. The milestone had been on a highway supervisor's front yard for about 30 years and then it disappeared after his death. The wooden sign (a major safety hazard by today's standards) has been replaced by a simple sign on the right shoulder. The farm buildings in the last photo are still standing. > > > > Roadside Vendor - This was very hard to pinpoint and that may have been one reason the Vales opted out on this scene. I was able to pinpoint the scene only when I viewed the original negative through a loupe. The street sign in the background is clear as can be in the neg. > > > > Road Making - Another curious omission. Granted the scene has changed considerably since 1950, by a little bit of leg work revealed the location to me. > > > > Double Highway - The Vales indicated they did not want to climb the rickety old water tower at this scene. That's understandable. Today, however, a communications tower stands on that site. I have made arrangements to get a photo from the tower - perhaps this summer. > > > > Sign Post - This is another curious omission. The scene has changed dramatically and is important for a then-and-now comparison. A major inner city highway now runs to the right of the scene - where the building with the Country Club Beer ad formerly stood. > > > > A Bit of the Old West - Stewart's location error has thrown all of us off. I spent about 20 afternoons in St. Mary's and was unable to locate it. Only when I reread Stewart's notes was I able to pinpoint the location. > > > > Two Species - The scene hasn't changed much. My guess is that the Vales blinked and drove right by it. > > > > Target of Opportunity - This section is on an abandoned alignment. My guess is that they were on the new road and drove right by it. > > > > Great Basin - This is an incredibly dangerous photo to shoot. I was nearly killed shooting this scene. > > > > Forty Mile Desert - Obviously, the Vales chose not to include the aerials. Probably for budgetary reasons. > > > > Highway and River - ditto. > > > > Forest Primeval - This scene is very tough to find, but a few days of leg work, and some assistance from the Forest Service, enabled me to find it. > > > > Names Section - I still don't understand why these photos weren't attempted by the Vales. There are some good scenes - especially in the original photos! > > > > In the Vales' defense, I realize that they had a very short schedule and a very limited budget. I have spent many years making trips, writing letters, sending e-mails and making phone calls to ensure accuracy and complete coverage. So far, I've had to pay for everything myself (the Vales did have a small grant). I owe a great deal to the Vales for their work. Thanks to them, a few of the more problematic scenes were very easy to locate. > > > > Frank Brusca > > Westerville, Ohio > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com<http:// www.mockturtlepress.com/> > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. 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Guest Brusca, Frank Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Hey, I thought I was the only one who took imaginary trips with Stewart's book. Between the ages of 10 and 18 (when I had no car or driver's license) Stewart's book was the only way I had to see the highway. Frank Brusca Westerville, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Ward Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 7:39 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-40 Book/Picture question Frank, Thanks for the information and comparison between the Stewart book and the Vale's book. I've only had my copy for 6-7 years but I can remember growing up in Marion, Illinois, a small town of about 10,000 folks in the southern part of the state, and checking Stewart's book out of the library numerable times just to daydream that I was traveling down U.S. 40 and not sitting my bedroom. Mike Ward ----- Original Message ----- From: Brusca, Frank<mailto:fbrusca@otterbein.edu> To: <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 5:41 AM Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-40 Book/Picture question I think the photo error was one of those oops moments for Stewart. He corrected it and moved on. Of the Vales' omissions, here are some likely rationale for their coverage (and lack thereof): New Castle - The original photo was shot from a ferry boat. Since the ferry was discontinued in 1951, I am hiring a charter boat to take me mid river. Bush River - I'm perplexed over this omission. The location is very easy to find. Ridge & Valley - ditto. Narrows - ditto. Coal Mine - The site is easy to find, however the mountain is not heavily forested. They probably elected not to shoot this scene since a contemporary photo is difficult to achieve. I've done some winter photography at a nearby location. Mileposts - These three sites are very easy to find. All three signs are now gone, though, and that may have been the reason the Vales didn't try to replicate the scenes. The cast iron milepost is now in a museum. The milestone had been on a highway supervisor's front yard for about 30 years and then it disappeared after his death. The wooden sign (a major safety hazard by today's standards) has been replaced by a simple sign on the right shoulder. The farm buildings in the last photo are still standing. Roadside Vendor - This was very hard to pinpoint and that may have been one reason the Vales opted out on this scene. I was able to pinpoint the scene only when I viewed the original negative through a loupe. The street sign in the background is clear as can be in the neg. Road Making - Another curious omission. Granted the scene has changed considerably since 1950, by a little bit of leg work revealed the location to me. Double Highway - The Vales indicated they did not want to climb the rickety old water tower at this scene. That's understandable. Today, however, a communications tower stands on that site. I have made arrangements to get a photo from the tower - perhaps this summer. Sign Post - This is another curious omission. The scene has changed dramatically and is important for a then-and-now comparison. A major inner city highway now runs to the right of the scene - where the building with the Country Club Beer ad formerly stood. A Bit of the Old West - Stewart's location error has thrown all of us off. I spent about 20 afternoons in St. Mary's and was unable to locate it. Only when I reread Stewart's notes was I able to pinpoint the location. Two Species - The scene hasn't changed much. My guess is that the Vales blinked and drove right by it. Target of Opportunity - This section is on an abandoned alignment. My guess is that they were on the new road and drove right by it. Great Basin - This is an incredibly dangerous photo to shoot. I was nearly killed shooting this scene. Forty Mile Desert - Obviously, the Vales chose not to include the aerials. Probably for budgetary reasons. Highway and River - ditto. Forest Primeval - This scene is very tough to find, but a few days of leg work, and some assistance from the Forest Service, enabled me to find it. Names Section - I still don't understand why these photos weren't attempted by the Vales. There are some good scenes - especially in the original photos! In the Vales' defense, I realize that they had a very short schedule and a very limited budget. I have spent many years making trips, writing letters, sending e-mails and making phone calls to ensure accuracy and complete coverage. So far, I've had to pay for everything myself (the Vales did have a small grant). I owe a great deal to the Vales for their work. Thanks to them, a few of the more problematic scenes were very easy to locate. 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Guest Mike Ward Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Frank, I was doing my dreaming, or should I say wanderlust, when I was about 10 years old, or about 50 years ago. Even though my family traveled a decent amount for the times, it was never enough for me, and remains the same even today. Maybe I should have been a long-haul truck driver. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Brusca, Frank<mailto:fbrusca@otterbein.edu> To: <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 5:55 AM Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-40 Book/Picture question Hey, I thought I was the only one who took imaginary trips with Stewart's book. Between the ages of 10 and 18 (when I had no car or driver's license) Stewart's book was the only way I had to see the highway. Frank Brusca Westerville, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Ward Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 7:39 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-40 Book/Picture question Frank, Thanks for the information and comparison between the Stewart book and the Vale's book. I've only had my copy for 6-7 years but I can remember growing up in Marion, Illinois, a small town of about 10,000 folks in the southern part of the state, and checking Stewart's book out of the library numerable times just to daydream that I was traveling down U.S. 40 and not sitting my bedroom. Mike Ward ----- Original Message ----- From: Brusca, Frank<mailto:fbrusca@otterbein.edu> To: <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 5:41 AM Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-40 Book/Picture question I think the photo error was one of those oops moments for Stewart. He corrected it and moved on. Of the Vales' omissions, here are some likely rationale for their coverage (and lack thereof): New Castle - The original photo was shot from a ferry boat. Since the ferry was discontinued in 1951, I am hiring a charter boat to take me mid river. Bush River - I'm perplexed over this omission. The location is very easy to find. Ridge & Valley - ditto. Narrows - ditto. Coal Mine - The site is easy to find, however the mountain is not heavily forested. They probably elected not to shoot this scene since a contemporary photo is difficult to achieve. I've done some winter photography at a nearby location. Mileposts - These three sites are very easy to find. All three signs are now gone, though, and that may have been the reason the Vales didn't try to replicate the scenes. The cast iron milepost is now in a museum. The milestone had been on a highway supervisor's front yard for about 30 years and then it disappeared after his death. The wooden sign (a major safety hazard by today's standards) has been replaced by a simple sign on the right shoulder. The farm buildings in the last photo are still standing. Roadside Vendor - This was very hard to pinpoint and that may have been one reason the Vales opted out on this scene. I was able to pinpoint the scene only when I viewed the original negative through a loupe. The street sign in the background is clear as can be in the neg. Road Making - Another curious omission. Granted the scene has changed considerably since 1950, by a little bit of leg work revealed the location to me. Double Highway - The Vales indicated they did not want to climb the rickety old water tower at this scene. That's understandable. Today, however, a communications tower stands on that site. I have made arrangements to get a photo from the tower - perhaps this summer. Sign Post - This is another curious omission. The scene has changed dramatically and is important for a then-and-now comparison. A major inner city highway now runs to the right of the scene - where the building with the Country Club Beer ad formerly stood. A Bit of the Old West - Stewart's location error has thrown all of us off. I spent about 20 afternoons in St. Mary's and was unable to locate it. Only when I reread Stewart's notes was I able to pinpoint the location. Two Species - The scene hasn't changed much. My guess is that the Vales blinked and drove right by it. Target of Opportunity - This section is on an abandoned alignment. My guess is that they were on the new road and drove right by it. Great Basin - This is an incredibly dangerous photo to shoot. I was nearly killed shooting this scene. Forty Mile Desert - Obviously, the Vales chose not to include the aerials. Probably for budgetary reasons. Highway and River - ditto. Forest Primeval - This scene is very tough to find, but a few days of leg work, and some assistance from the Forest Service, enabled me to find it. Names Section - I still don't understand why these photos weren't attempted by the Vales. There are some good scenes - especially in the original photos! In the Vales' defense, I realize that they had a very short schedule and a very limited budget. I have spent many years making trips, writing letters, sending e-mails and making phone calls to ensure accuracy and complete coverage. So far, I've had to pay for everything myself (the Vales did have a small grant). I owe a great deal to the Vales for their work. Thanks to them, a few of the more problematic scenes were very easy to locate. Frank Brusca Westerville, Ohio Visit our homepage at: <http://www.mockturtlepress.com/><http://www.mockt urtlepress.com/<http://www.mockturtlepress.com/>> To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. 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Guest thehinge@magpage.com> Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 It's sad that not one of the mufflermen pictured has a muffler in his hand...lol. They're all holding air..... Matt Smallwood On Thu, 04 May 2006 11:16:49 -0000 "Chris" <chris@experiencenascar.com> wrote: > > > > Just drove the Easternmost end of 40 yesterday. > Beginning to look like the rest of Joisey as I see it. > A few good landmarks left, . . . I just googled this. > > http://www.route40.net/culture/mufflerman.shtml > > Also found it hard to recognize Rt 322 (Black Horse > Pike). > Anyone remember a very small Fantasy Amusement Park > called "Adventure Village" on 322? > > ... Chris > NJ Exit 7-A > > > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike > Ward" <flyboy1946@...> wrote: > > > > Frank, > > > > Thanks for the information and comparison between > the Stewart book and the Vale's > book. I've only had my copy for 6-7 years but I can > remember growing up in Marion, > Illinois, a small town of about 10,000 folks in the > southern part of the state, and checking > Stewart's book out of the library numerable times just to > daydream that I was traveling > down U.S. 40 and not sitting my bedroom. > > > > Mike Ward > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Brusca, > Frank<mailto:fbrusca@...> > > To: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com<mailto: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 5:41 AM > > Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-40 > Book/Picture question > > > > > > I think the photo error was one of those > oops moments for Stewart. He corrected it > and moved on. > > > > > > > > Of the Vales' omissions, here are some > likely rationale for their coverage (and lack > thereof): > > > > > > > > New Castle - The original photo was shot > from a ferry boat. Since the ferry was > discontinued in 1951, I am hiring a charter boat to take > me mid river. > > > > > > > > Bush River - I'm perplexed over this > omission. The location is very easy to find. > > > > > > > > Ridge & Valley - ditto. > > > > > > > > Narrows - ditto. > > > > > > > > Coal Mine - The site is easy to find, > however the mountain is not heavily forested. > They probably elected not to shoot this scene since a > contemporary photo is difficult to > achieve. I've done some winter photography at a > nearby location. > > > > > > > > Mileposts - These three sites are very > easy to find. All three signs are now gone, > though, and that may have been the reason the Vales > didn't try to replicate the scenes. > The cast iron milepost is now in a museum. The > milestone had been on a highway > supervisor's front yard for about 30 years and then it > disappeared after his death. The > wooden sign (a major safety hazard by today's standards) > has been replaced by a simple > sign on the right shoulder. The farm buildings in > the last photo are still standing. > > > > > > > > Roadside Vendor - This was very hard to > pinpoint and that may have been one reason > the Vales opted out on this scene. I was able to > pinpoint the scene only when I viewed the > original negative through a loupe. The street sign > in the background is clear as can be in > the neg. > > > > > > > > Road Making - Another curious > omission. Granted the scene has changed > considerably since 1950, by a little bit of leg work > revealed the location to me. > > > > > > > > Double Highway - The Vales indicated > they did not want to climb the rickety old water > tower at this scene. That's understandable. > Today, however, a communications tower > stands on that site. I have made arrangements to > get a photo from the tower - perhaps > this summer. > > > > > > > > Sign Post - This is another curious > omission. The scene has changed dramatically and > is important for a then-and-now comparison. A major > inner city highway now runs to the > right of the scene - where the building with the Country > Club Beer ad formerly stood. > > > > > > > > A Bit of the Old West - Stewart's > location error has thrown all of us off. I spent > about > 20 afternoons in St. Mary's and was unable to locate > it. Only when I reread Stewart's notes > was I able to pinpoint the location. > > > > > > > > Two Species - The scene hasn't changed > much. My guess is that the Vales blinked and > drove right by it. > > > > > > > > Target of Opportunity - This section is > on an abandoned alignment. My guess is that > they were on the new road and drove right by it. > > > > > > > > Great Basin - This is an incredibly > dangerous photo to shoot. I was nearly killed > shooting this scene. > > > > > > > > Forty Mile Desert - Obviously, the Vales > chose not to include the aerials. Probably for > budgetary reasons. > > > > > > > > Highway and River - ditto. > > > > > > > > Forest Primeval - This scene is very > tough to find, but a few days of leg work, and > some assistance from the Forest Service, enabled me to > find it. > > > > > > > > Names Section - I still don't understand > why these photos weren't attempted by the > Vales. There are some good scenes - especially in > the original photos! > > > > > > > > In the Vales' defense, I realize that > they had a very short schedule and a very limited > budget. I have spent many years making trips, > writing letters, sending e-mails and > making phone calls to ensure accuracy and complete > coverage. So far, I've had to pay for > everything myself (the Vales did have a small > grant). I owe a great deal to the Vales for > their work. 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Guest big_ugly_mich@yahoo.com Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 That's one of several regrets I have from service days. I was stationed on a ship in Coronado (across San Diego Bay from some big city or other) and never hit the LA area for anything like Barney's or the real original McDonald's in San Bernadino. My biggest is being stationed at Idaho Falls, ID for a few months and never, not even once, going to that big park in the northwest corner of Montana. I think it's called Yellow stone or some such. I did get to Craters of the Moon, which was awesome, on my way to Washington State. Camped out there just on the spur of the moment, too. Okay, I stuck my feet out the window of a Plymouth Valient until I got too cold. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Bakerhab@a... wrote: > > Article Published: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 5:06:32 PM PST > > aˆ? Barney's Beanery website. > > > > West Hollywood landmark plans second Beanery By Brent Hopkins > > WEST HOLLYWOOD -- Twenty-one kinds of chili, 78 sorts of burgers, more than > 200 beers, 700 menu items, and soon, two locations. The original dingy, beat-up > burger-and-brew joint known as Barney's Beanery reeks of nine decades of > checkered history. Started in 1920 by ex-Navy cook John Anthony -- dubbed Barney > by his friends for no apparent reason -- the site served as a watering hole for > drivers on the old Route 66 when it relocated to its current spot in 1927. > Once the weary motorists reached California, they left their out-of-state plates > at the bar -- decor that remains decades later. Initially, the shack only > served men and would later gain notoriety for its barroom sign suggesting gays > take their business elsewhere. Over the years, protests brought that sign down, > but even in its more hardscrabble days, the restaurant claimed a clientele as > varied as Jean Harlow, John Barrymore and Clark Gable. Janis Joplin carved her > name into her favorite table to commemorate many a night in the wild > roadhouse on Santa Monica Boulevard, one that still draws stars and tourists alike. > The yowling singer slugged back her last vodka-and-orange at the West Hollywood > landmark the night she died. The Doors used to prowl its cluttered interior > when they weren't handling business at nearby Elektra Records. It's been the > site of both billiards battles and civil rights struggles, and now, the storied > site will spawn another. This summer, Barney's Beanery will open its first > branch along Santa Monica's Promenade."We finally got a second location," said > David Houston, co-owner and president of the restaurant. "It only took us 84 > years to get our act together and get around to it."Granted, he didn't own it the > whole time, purchasing it three years ago after many years of dining at its > scarred wood booths. He and his partners have some experience with multi-unit > operations, also running the Q's Billiards chain in West Los Angeles, Pasadena > and Santa Barbara. Based on his time with Q's, he thinks he can make the $1 > million they're sinking into the new 6,000-square-foot site on the Promenade a > success. After a six-month test, he'll consider expanding again to more > sites."It'll be hard," he conceded while walking the darkened interior of the original > site. "We need to find some good, damaged wood, maybe a floor that bows in > like it does right here. We need to really break it in."Richard Cherra, a > regular for the past few years, has spent many a meal sprawled across the > rainbow-hued booths, drinking beer and refining his screenplay with his friend Harry > Klos. The 30-year-old writer from Culver City digs the layers of history that > have built up over the walls."You don't get this anywhere else in L.A.," he said > from a window booth. "Everything else changes every couple of years, but this > has been the same since Janis Joplin."Of the many musicians associated with > the joint, Joplin boasts the most colorful history. Allegedly, the singer and > Jim Morrison had a falling out one night, leading her to clock him over the head > with a bottle of booze. While Barney's doesn't claim this as gospel, it does > little to dispel the legend. In its various incarnations, the restaurant has > been a haunt for the music industry, roughneck bikers, college kids and > tourists, often at the same time."We'd get drunk, come out of The Troubadour and end > up at Barney's," said Michael Ochs, who headed West Coast publicity for > Columbia Records in the early 1970s and now runs a music photo archive in Venice. > "But I don't remember much, probably because we were always drunk. It had > incredibly busy decor, sort of a beatnik and biker crowd."It also claims > contemporary celebrities, as well. Quentin Tarantino used to spread out his note pads on > the collage-covered tables to pen his early screenplays surrounded by the odd > mishmash of pop culture.But the same lore that's made Barney's a favorite for > decades also proves to be its biggest challenge in branching out. So much of > its charm is built into its history, restaurant experts questioned whether it > could replicate the same feeling in a satellite location."I think Barney's a > one-of," said Andy Harris, producer of "The Mario Martinoli Restaurant Show" on > KFI-AM (640). "It was indigenous to West Hollywood, and has survived and > evolved along with the changes in that community. When you move that to the Third > Street Promenade, which is a completely different demographic with much higher > rent, I'm a little befuddled."Even Houston agrees that the idea of multiple > spots feels weird."It's almost like sacrilege to open a second location," he > said. "It's like your children finding out you've got a second marriage."Despite > the mixed emotions, he remains committed to branching out. Ever since he took > control of the Beanery, he's looked for new spots, certain that the raucous > atmosphere that he's loved for years will translate in far-flung spots. For > months, he and his sister Lisa, a manager at the restaurant, have been scouring > eBay, antique shops and yard sales for old signs, vintage pictures and license > plates. Armed with cartons of Americana, they aim to whip up 84 years of > replicated history in a hurry."The challenge is to make them as similar as > possible," Houston said. "When you come into Barney's, it's just a beaten-up old > roadhouse. Why that works for people, I don't know. It works for me though and, > fortunately, there's enough people like me to make it work as a business." > > > > > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest big_ugly_mich@yahoo.com Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Summerfest? I was born in Milwaukee and we have a HUGE music festival (biggest in the world according to the Guinness Book of World Records) called Summerfest. It's a ten day affair that ends on the Sunday following July 4th. Technically, I'm not whining, since no one bothered to trademark the name, but it's just an observation. We DID make a website for it called www.summerfest.com that you may want to check out. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Gassmann" <mike@c...> wrote: > May 24, 2004 > > I'm the Big Tomato and I approved this message: > > > WORLD'S LARGEST CATSUP BOTTLE GETS GRIZZLY > > The Gateway Grizzlies are seeing red over one of their new promotions! But actually, > that's a good thing. They're teaming up with the World's Largest Catsup Bottle to > promote the 6th annual Downtown Collinsville Summerfest Birthday Party this July > 11th. > > The Grizzlies are donating a portion of ticket sales to benefit Collinsville's Main Street > revitalization program. The Catsup Bottle Summerfest fundraiser night at GMC > Stadium is Monday, July 5th, against the River City Rascals. Tickets are available online > now at www.catsupbottlesummerfest.com or by calling Downtown Collinsville at 618 > -345-5598. > > Tickets are $8.00 each for reserved field box seats and are available at Collinsville > Sports Store, Ashmann's Pharmacy, Evers Group of Pharmacies, Ostle's Family > Pharmacy, and the Downtown Collinsville office. > > The Gateway Grizzlies are ready to pour it on as defending champions of the 2003 > independent Frontier League. The team is beginning its fourth season and is based in > Sauget, Illinois. > > The World's Largest Catsup Bottle is a 55-year-old roadside landmark water tower > listed on the National Register of Historic Places. It was saved from demolition and > restored in 1995 by a nationwide grassroots fundraising effort. > > Downtown Collinsville, Inc. is a 501©3 nonprofit organization implementing the > Illinois Main Street program and dedicated to the historic preservation, promotion, > and economic revitalization of the downtown Collinsville area. > > # # # > > > For Catsup Bottle information: www.catsupbottle.com www.downtowncollinsville.com > Downtown Collinsville, Inc. 618-345-5598 > Judy DeMoisy, The Catsup bottle Lady & Downtown Collinsville Manager > Mike Gassmann, The Big Tomato > > For Gateway Grizzlies information: www.gatewaygrizzlies.com > Gateway Grizzlies Baseball Club 618-337-3000 > Jackie Marko, Promotions Director > Kelly Kicielinski, Ticket Sales Associate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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