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March 11, 2006

Alex & Russell,

Your thoughts and comments are right in line with what everyone else seems

to be saying. That was why I asked folks that I trust what their take was on

buying from unknown sources.

I am now finding out that the upgrades may not offer me much more data then

I already have or that what they do offer I really do not need. If software

will make my life easier, faster, and more proficient and save me time

(which none of us have any to waste) and the cost is within my budget then I

will buy it. My usual source for software is Staples, Best Buy, Circuit City

or CompUSA. A few times I have bought from a web site and even from the

Computer Fair’s held around Southern California.

Thanks for your suggestions and comments.

Take care and see you on the road.

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March 11, 2006

Great pictures!

Not being a native of the area, I too was disappointed when I specifically

sought out this stretch of US 25E over Clinch Mountain on a road trip in

1990 and found it to be a modern 4-lane highway.

I had read William Least Heat Moon's account of a treacherous drive along

the old alignment in his "Blue Highways" book and wanted to experience it

myself.

But I was too late -- the highway "improvers" had beaten me to it. Too bad.

Based upon the account in "Blue Highways", I'm guessing that the old

alignment was bypassed around 1978 or so.

On 11/13/05 3:14 PM, "Bob Reynolds" <roustabout@starband.net> wrote:

> Once again, my photos are at

> http://community.webshots.com/user/babyboomerbob

>

> Birthday Road Trip

>

> Featuring Rose's Service Station, a Clinch Mountain Conundrum, the

> Mascot Monster, and the Mystery Bridge of 1962:)

>

> Most times, my birthday is a rather blue day. One day older and

> having to go to work and put up with all the bureaucracy therein.

> This year was different:) Susan and I were off work together and

> Kevin Redden was down for a visit. And as the weather was close to

> perfect, off we went on a road trip!

>

> Our main destination was Tazewell, TN, so we headed out of

> Knoxiousville on SR 33, screaming through Maynardville as we

> followed the so called "Thunder Road" Our first stop was the

> Veterans Bridge across the Clinch River. It's good to see a few

> truss bridges still around. <Veterans Bridge 01, 02>.

>

> Once we arrived in Tazewell, it didn't take us long to find the

> old alinement of US 25E and Rose's. The folks in Tazewell have done

> a superb job of restoring and stocking it with all sorts of Gulf

> memorabilia. I'll let the 20 pictures speak for themselves, except

> to point out a few things.

>

> I was really looking forward to seeing the 1932 Gulf road map

> of Tennessee and Kentucky, and I wasn't at all disappointed. There

> were a few interesting things I found there. For instance <RSS 09>

> shows the old road in the Smokies across Indian Gap to North

> Carolina. It's a hiking trail now. Also it shows NC 288 along the

> north side of the Little Tennessee River from Bryson City to Tocoa.

> This road was flooded by Fontana Lake. The feds promised to build a

> new road to replace it, but it's only about half finished. The new

> road dead ends right before a tunnel. Environmental and budget

> concerns make it questionable if it ever will be completed. No US

> 64, 129, or 441. The Tail of the Dragon was TN 72.

>

> <RRS 10> shows my neck of the woods. No Oak Ridge:) It hadn't

> been built yet. It's in between Oliver Springs and Robertsville.

> In fact, Susan (an Oak Ridge native) went to Robertsville Jr. High.

>

> <RSS 11> is the Chattanooga area. US 64 had its eastern

> terminus there. Also, the western mainline of the Dixie Highway

> followed TN 27 from Chattanooga to Jasper. Cummings Highway (US 41)

> wasn't quite finished.

>

> An interesting note to <RSS 12>. The present route of US 62

> from Cynthiana to Maysville, KY through Claysville and Mt. Olivet

> wasn't done, so Temp 62 followed KY 32 and US 68.

>

> <RSS 13> shows the long decomissioned northern stretch of US

> 227. It once continued south through Georgetown to Paris. The

> stretch from Paris south to Winchester and Richmond persisted into

> the 70's, but it's totally gone now.

>

> As we headed south on US 25E headed for Clinch Mountain, it

> quickly became apparent that this stretch of road was being

> widened. Maybe some new stretches of old road soon. Hmmmm. Talk

> about an oxymoron:)

>

> A bit of digression is in order here. Back in 1962 when I was

> 13, my grandmother and I went to visit some elderly kinfolks in

> Rogersville. We still had passenger rail service back then, so we

> took the train to Morristown where my cousins picked us up. They

> were sweet enough to take me and grandmother up to Cumberland Gap,

> so that was the first time I crossed Clinch Mountain by car. The

> road was two lane and rather twisty and I was disappointed when I

> returned in 1982 and found a new four lane road. It was my

> intention on this trip to find as much of the old road across the

> mountain as I could.

>

> I used Delorme to give me clues to the old alignment. The

> stretch on the northern side looked clear enough, but I wasn't sure

> I could find the north end. When I reached TN Sec 131, I knew I'd

> missed it. So we headed east until we got to Thorn Hill and I found

> the old road. I soon found why I had missed the road. Southbound,

> it was signed as old 25E. But northbound, it was Kincaid Farm

> Road. So I drove north until I returned to the four lane, then

> turned around and drove the stretch the way I intended to:) <Old US

> 25E 01-06>.

>

> We got back on the four lane and went though the cut in the

> summit, then parked at the Veteran's Overlook. <Atop clinch Mountain

> 01-02>. Now back to 1962 for a bit. I had a Brownie Starflash

> camera back then and took a picture from here <Atop Clinch Mountain,

> 1962>. You can't see very much, but off in the distance, I could

> see a bridge crossing an arm of Cherokee Lake. Even at that tender

> age I was wondering if it may have been a bypassed part of 11W.

> Later I checked maps, but the road was neither numbered nor named,

> and I didn't get back for 20 more years.

>

> Now to 1982. Susan and I took the new road over Clinch

> Mountain and stopped at the new overlook. This time I could get a

> clear pictire not only of the "Mystery Bridge" <Atop Clinch

> Mountain, 1982 02>, but also a very nice picture of the old

> alignment running around a bend and down a valley to US 11W <Atop

> Clinch Mountain, 1982 01> (Note, I also included a couple of

> pictures from that trip of a guy flying a radio controlled glider

> from the side of the mountain:)

>

> One more interesting thing about the overlook. Many of the

> rocks used in building the wall there were crammed with fossils.

> I'm not at all sure what they were. I had considered crinoid stems

> until I did a web search. These things look too thick. <Atop Clinch

> Mountain 04-05>.

>

> Now for the alinement on the south side. Here's what I've

> managed to piece together. The old road went off to the right on

> what is now signed as Ridgeview Road. The uppermost part has been

> sealed off and is undrivable <Old US 25E 08-10> It turns right just

> before reaching Overlook Road (a short connector) and twists down

> the mountain until it reaches US11W.

>

> But here's a puzzle. Ridgeview Road continues down the

> mountain, paralell with the four lane and eventually reconnects with

> it <Old US25E 11-12>. The road looks like an old highway, having

> yellow lines in the middle. And Delorme marks it as old US 25E. My

> only supposition is there must have been two older alinements.

> Perhaps the lower end of Ridgeview Road was part of the highway only

> during some time between 1962 and 1982. Oh well, this is just

> another part of the fun of old road sleuthing:)

>

> Lunch time! We took the four lane until the interchange with

> old 11W. We followed the old road into Bean Station and stopped at

> the B & K Restaurant <B & K Restaurant 01-02>. Splendid Southern

> cooking! Pork chops, pinto beans, and a big square of cornbread

> (not made with sugar like they do up Nawrth:) for sopping up the

> bean juice:) Delightful! Unfortunately, I did something stupid

> here. They didn't take a credit card, but were gracious enough to

> take a check. I was so used to indicating a tip on a credit card

> slip, I bopped right out and forgot to leave a tip:!( I was not

> happy with myself:(

>

> The restaurant was on the corner of old US 11W (Lee Highway)

> and old US 25E (Cumberland Gap Loop of the Dixie Highway). <Old US

> 25E 13>. Bean Station has been bypassed by the new four lanes:( We

> headed south on old 25E until we got to the four lane. We

> backtracked a bit and headed west on TN Sec 375. Thanks to Delorme

> I now knew how to get to my "Mystery Bridge" I still don't know

> its real name, but 375 is also Northshore Drive, so that's what I'm

> calling the bridge for now <Northshore Drive Bridge 01-04>.

>

> As we continued west on 375, skirting the north side of

> Cherokee Lake, I couldn't help but notice a bunch of plastic covered

> greenhouses. It puzzled me until I remembered we were in Grainger

> County, a place renowned for its tomatoes <Granger County tomatoes,

> 01-02>.

>

> 375 teed at TN 92, and we headed south towards Jefferson City.

> We crossed the Holston River just downstream of Cherokee Dam,

> stopping to get a few pictures <Cherokee Dam 01-03>.

>

> Just before we got to Jefferson City, the highway teed. 92

> went off to the left, toward town, but we drove right instead,

> following the old alinement of US 11E (Andrew Johnson Highway). We

> stopped for a photo op in New Market, a town probably most famous as

> the site of a grinding head on collision between two trains about

> 100 years ago <Andrew Johnson Highway 01-03>. We continued through

> Strawberry Plains, taking more pictures as we went <AJS 04-05,

> Railroad Underpass>.

>

> There was one more stop for us. Once we returned to the four

> lane, we turned right onto Mascot Pike to show Kevin the Mascot

> Monster. But first we crossed the Holston River on this unusual

> concrete truss bridge <Mascot Bridge 01-02>. Not far beyond the

> bridge, there he was, poking his head out of the rocks:) <Mascot

> Monster 01-03>. By this time, we were pretty worn out and headed on

> back home. If only all my birthdays were this good:)

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March 11, 2006

Hey Bob,

Great pic's - tho I have to admit a lot of that

country I really didn't get a good look at. You tend

to concentrate on the road when you're traveling fast,

heading for Knoxiousville, Chattanooga or Memphis, at

night.

Lot of the roads that are today marked with a route

number, back in the mid- to late-50's, were unmarked,

narrow and, mostly, gravel. Try broadsliding a coupe

loaded with 15 or 20 5 gallon cans in the back down

one of those roads in the middle of the night -

interesting!!! Broadsliding at 80 per on a 1/4 mile

dirt track is exciting, but not nearly as much fun.

Money wasn't as good either.

Thanks for the memories.

Hudsonly,

Alex B

--- Rob Carnachan <robcarn@msn.com> wrote:

> Great pictures!

>

> Not being a native of the area, I too was

> disappointed when I specifically

> sought out this stretch of US 25E over Clinch

> Mountain on a road trip in

> 1990 and found it to be a modern 4-lane highway.

>

> I had read William Least Heat Moon's account of a

> treacherous drive along

> the old alignment in his "Blue Highways" book and

> wanted to experience it

> myself.

>

> But I was too late -- the highway "improvers" had

> beaten me to it. Too bad.

>

> Based upon the account in "Blue Highways", I'm

> guessing that the old

> alignment was bypassed around 1978 or so.

>

> On 11/13/05 3:14 PM, "Bob Reynolds"

> <roustabout@starband.net> wrote:

>

> > Once again, my photos are at

> > http://community.webshots.com/user/babyboomerbob

> >

> > Birthday Road Trip

> >

> > Featuring Rose's Service Station, a Clinch

> Mountain Conundrum, the

> > Mascot Monster, and the Mystery Bridge of 1962:)

> >

> > Most times, my birthday is a rather blue day.

> One day older and

> > having to go to work and put up with all the

> bureaucracy therein.

> > This year was different:) Susan and I were off

> work together and

> > Kevin Redden was down for a visit. And as the

> weather was close to

> > perfect, off we went on a road trip!

> >

> > Our main destination was Tazewell, TN, so we

> headed out of

> > Knoxiousville on SR 33, screaming through

> Maynardville as we

> > followed the so called "Thunder Road" Our first

> stop was the

> > Veterans Bridge across the Clinch River. It's

> good to see a few

> > truss bridges still around. <Veterans Bridge 01,

> 02>.

> >

> > Once we arrived in Tazewell, it didn't take

> us long to find the

> > old alinement of US 25E and Rose's. The folks in

> Tazewell have done

> > a superb job of restoring and stocking it with all

> sorts of Gulf

> > memorabilia. I'll let the 20 pictures speak for

> themselves, except

> > to point out a few things.

> >

> > I was really looking forward to seeing the

> 1932 Gulf road map

> > of Tennessee and Kentucky, and I wasn't at all

> disappointed. There

> > were a few interesting things I found there. For

> instance <RSS 09>

> > shows the old road in the Smokies across Indian

> Gap to North

> > Carolina. It's a hiking trail now. Also it shows

> NC 288 along the

> > north side of the Little Tennessee River from

> Bryson City to Tocoa.

> > This road was flooded by Fontana Lake. The feds

> promised to build a

> > new road to replace it, but it's only about half

> finished. The new

> > road dead ends right before a tunnel.

> Environmental and budget

> > concerns make it questionable if it ever will be

> completed. No US

> > 64, 129, or 441. The Tail of the Dragon was TN

> 72.

> >

> > <RRS 10> shows my neck of the woods. No Oak

> Ridge:) It hadn't

> > been built yet. It's in between Oliver Springs

> and Robertsville.

> > In fact, Susan (an Oak Ridge native) went to

> Robertsville Jr. High.

> >

> > <RSS 11> is the Chattanooga area. US 64 had

> its eastern

> > terminus there. Also, the western mainline of the

> Dixie Highway

> > followed TN 27 from Chattanooga to Jasper.

> Cummings Highway (US 41)

> > wasn't quite finished.

> >

> > An interesting note to <RSS 12>. The present

> route of US 62

> > from Cynthiana to Maysville, KY through

> Claysville and Mt. Olivet

> > wasn't done, so Temp 62 followed KY 32 and US 68.

> >

> > <RSS 13> shows the long decomissioned

> northern stretch of US

> > 227. It once continued south through Georgetown

> to Paris. The

> > stretch from Paris south to Winchester and

> Richmond persisted into

> > the 70's, but it's totally gone now.

> >

> > As we headed south on US 25E headed for

> Clinch Mountain, it

> > quickly became apparent that this stretch of road

> was being

> > widened. Maybe some new stretches of old road

> soon. Hmmmm. Talk

> > about an oxymoron:)

> >

> > A bit of digression is in order here. Back in

> 1962 when I was

> > 13, my grandmother and I went to visit some

> elderly kinfolks in

> > Rogersville. We still had passenger rail service

> back then, so we

> > took the train to Morristown where my cousins

> picked us up. They

> > were sweet enough to take me and grandmother up to

> Cumberland Gap,

> > so that was the first time I crossed Clinch

> Mountain by car. The

> > road was two lane and rather twisty and I was

> disappointed when I

> > returned in 1982 and found a new four lane road.

> It was my

> > intention on this trip to find as much of the old

> road across the

> > mountain as I could.

> >

> > I used Delorme to give me clues to the old

> alignment. The

> > stretch on the northern side looked clear enough,

> but I wasn't sure

> > I could find the north end. When I reached TN Sec

> 131, I knew I'd

> > missed it. So we headed east until we got to

> Thorn Hill and I found

> > the old road. I soon found why I had missed the

> road. Southbound,

> > it was signed as old 25E. But northbound, it was

> Kincaid Farm

> > Road. So I drove north until I returned to the

> four lane, then

> > turned around and drove the stretch the way I

> intended to:) <Old US

> > 25E 01-06>.

> >

> > We got back on the four lane and went though

> the cut in the

> > summit, then parked at the Veteran's Overlook.

> <Atop clinch Mountain

> > 01-02>. Now back to 1962 for a bit. I had a

> Brownie Starflash

> > camera back then and took a picture from here

> <Atop Clinch Mountain,

> > 1962>. You can't see very much, but off in the

> distance, I could

> > see a bridge crossing an arm of Cherokee Lake.

> Even at that tender

> > age I was wondering if it may have been a bypassed

> part of 11W.

> > Later I checked maps, but the road was neither

> numbered nor named,

> > and I didn't get back for 20 more years.

> >

> > Now to 1982. Susan and I took the new road

> over Clinch

> > Mountain and stopped at the new overlook. This

> time I could get a

> > clear pictire not only of the "Mystery Bridge"

> <Atop Clinch

> > Mountain, 1982 02>, but also a very nice picture

> of the old

> > alignment running around a bend and down a valley

> to US 11W <Atop

> > Clinch Mountain, 1982 01> (Note, I also included

> a couple of

> > pictures from that trip of a guy flying a radio

> controlled glider

> > from the side of the mountain:)

> >

> > One more interesting thing about the overlook.

> Many of the

> > rocks used in building the wall there were crammed

> with fossils.

>

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...> wrote:

>

> Hey Bob,

>

> Great pic's - tho I have to admit a lot of that

> country I really didn't get a good look at. You tend

> to concentrate on the road when you're traveling fast,

> heading for Knoxiousville, Chattanooga or Memphis, at

> night.

>

> Lot of the roads that are today marked with a route

> number, back in the mid- to late-50's, were unmarked,

> narrow and, mostly, gravel. Try broadsliding a coupe

> loaded with 15 or 20 5 gallon cans in the back down

> one of those roads in the middle of the night -

> interesting!!! Broadsliding at 80 per on a 1/4 mile

> dirt track is exciting, but not nearly as much fun.

> Money wasn't as good either.

>

> Thanks for the memories.

>

> Hudsonly,

> Alex B

>

Hey Alex, has anyone ever suggested that you write a book about

your experiences? These stories need to be preserved, IMHO.

Bob

March 12, 2006

In a message dated 11/13/05 5:15:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

roustabout@starband.net writes:

Our main destination was Tazewell, TN, so we headed out of

Knoxiousville on SR 33, screaming through Maynardville as we

followed the so called "Thunder Road"

====================================================================

That song was on the radio in the late winter and spring of 1962. Using roads

that existed at the time, I figured the moonshiner took 119 from Harlan

almost to Pineville, then 25E over Cumberland Gap (that must have been a thrill)

to

Tennessee 33, into Knoxville, then west on 11/70 (Kingston Pike) to Bearden,

where he left the road at 90mph and died. BTW, is Bearden really pronounced

BEER-den?

====================================================================

"RSS 13> shows the long decomissioned northern stretch of US

227. It once continued south through Georgetown to Paris. The

stretch from Paris south to Winchester and Richmond persisted into

the 70's, but it's totally gone now."

I've no idea why I remember it, but in the summer of 1961, my family took a

long trip from South Carolina to Michigan. We left my aunt's house in Harlan on

US 119, which we took to 25E and headed north. My dad liked to cut corners,

so we took KY 229 to London, where we must have picked up mainline 25. At

Richmond, we took the above mentioned portion of US 227 to Paris, then US 68 to

Maysville. I remember 68 as being a very bad road. We crossed the Ohio at

Maysville and started up US 62, looking for a place to stay. We didn't find one

until

Hillsboro and it was rather late. It was an old fashioned "cabin" motel.

Somehow I wound up getting my own room, and I was thrilled to death. It was

almost

like being an adult and going on my own road trip! The next day, we avoided

Columbus and took Ohio 4 to Lake Erie. After a visit to the Cedar Point

amusement park, we went on to my grandparents' house in Toledo.

=====================================================================

"The restaurant was on the corner of old US 11W (Lee Highway)

and old US 25E (Cumberland Gap Loop of the Dixie Highway). "

By the 1970s, 11W had acquired a bad reputation. So much so that there was a

country song called "11W Bloody Highway" that the Knoxville stations played in

1973. I drove that road a year earlier, and it scared me to death. For once,

I was glad to see an interstate completed.

Tom Hoffman

Pearisburg VA

March 12, 2006

Hello everyone,

I just wanted to introduce myself as I just joined the group. My hubby

and I have finally finished raising our kids and now have some time to

do some of the things we always wanted to do. We plan on traveling a

bit and enjoying the open road. I am looking forward to hearing about

the adventures and places out there and maybe getting some ideas right

here. Thanks for letting me in.

Terri

March 12, 2006

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caps, visors, tee-shirts, sweatshirts, license plates, key tags, hat

pins, bolos, and belt buckles (whew!) at http://

www.cruisinroute66.com from Anderson Productions. You can

also request a PDF product line brochure - email

kand66@hotmail.com.

======

EARLY LINCOLN HIGHWAY ROAD GUIDES-

1915 & 1916 reprints are of the original guides published by the

Lincoln Highway only $11.95 each. ORDER both for just $20.00.

Plus $4.00 shipping. RG Southwell Foundation 117 R street,

Salt Lake City, UT 84103. THE OTHER HERITAGE is a

newsletter about the Lincoln Highway. The man from Utah,

editor. Comments welcomed. :Rollin.Southwell@pgrimes.com.

http://www.xmission.com/~pgrimes/lincoln.htm

======

HISTORIC NATIONAL ROAD, WEST VIRGINIA: From the birth of

our nation, many sites in history beckon to us across time, and

the Historic National Road in West Virginia is key among them.

Beautiful Victorian architecture, museums, and National Historic

Landmarks provide travelers with authentic experiences. Web:

http://www.historicwvnationalroad.org.Toll Free: 1.800.828.3097

======

MOBIL TRAVEL GUIDE provides consumers recommendations

they can trust! Visit http://www.mobiltravelguide.com or call 1-

866-MOBILTG to order our Regional Travel Planners, On the

Road with Your Pet, or the America's Byways series. While

you're online don't miss the Road Trip Planner options to

help

customize your trip and book hotel reservations.

======

NEBRASKA: Get your free Nebraska travel packet with

information on attractions, frontier adventures, natural wonders,

arts and culture, scenic byways, weekend getaways, golf,

lodgings, things to see & do, plus over a thousand festivals and

events. Nebraska. Possibilities...endless. Call 1-877-

NEBRASKA for a free travel packet, or on the Web at

www.VisitNebraska.org

======

TONY CRAIG ART GALLERY: Take an artistic virtual tour of

America's highways (diners, motels, milling companies and lots

of neon)! ! Original watercolor paintings and prints featuring

roadside America. Log on to: http://www.tonycraig.net

======

101 CAFE: Get a free nostalgia trip on Historic Highway 101 by

way of the 101 Cafe. This site will educate, entertain and connect

you to Historic Highway 101 History, Images, Attractions, Natural

wonders, Arts and Surf culture, Lodgings, Things to See & Do.

www.101cafe.net.

======

**Remember to tell them you saw them in AMERICAN ROAD's

e-newsletter!

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FAVORITE ROADIE?

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perfect gift that they will enjoy all year long! Order today by

calling

toll-free 1-877-285-5434, or order on-line (http://

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can personalize it with a message from you!

We now have GIFT CERTIFICATES (available in $5.00

increments)! They may be used by the recipient to purchase

subscriptions, back issues, or any item in the Hitching Post. We

added several new, unique items yesterday to the Hitching Post-

-including hand-embroidered AMERICAN ROAD WEAR! Be sure

to pay us a visit at http://www.mockturtlepress.com/

jcintroduction.html. You'll want to bookmark this site, as we have

more items to be posted in the next few days--including made-

to-order roadsigns that meet DOT specifications! Best of all, you

don't need to leave your house to fight holiday crowds to find that

perfect gift for your favorite roadie! Order today on-line at http://

www.mockturtlepress.com or by calling our toll-free number at 1-

877-285-5434.

And, don't forget all the great gift ideas advertised in AMERICAN

ROAD! Tell them you saw it in AMERICAN ROAD!

OKLAHOMA ROUTE 66 ASSOCIATION SUCCESSFUL IN

SEEKING OKLAHOMA STATE SCENIC BYWAY NOMINATION.

Former Oklahoma Route 66 Association Executive Director,

Linda Fernau, reports that the Association, in conjunction with

the USDA Natural Resources Conservation Service, was

successful in its quest to obtain Oklahoma State Scenic Byway

status for Oklahoma Route 66! Former association president,

Kathy Anderson along with Bill Fernau, Linda's husband and co-

owner of the Chandler Phillips 66 Station wrote the application.

(Many of you read about the station in the very first issue of

AMERICAN ROAD! For those of you that missed the first issue

you can read the article by visiting http://

www.patinaproperties.com or by visiting http://

www.mockturtlepress.com and reading the sample issue.)

Linda and Bill made the successful presentation to the

nominating committee.

Congratulations, Oklahoma! You've given a wonderful holiday gift

to roadies everywhere.

WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU

We welcome your correspondence and questions. Have you

paid a recent visit to one or more of the places mentioned in a

previous issue of AMERICAN ROAD? We want to hear about it.

We love receiving your cards, letters and e-mails. You may send

us a letter or e-mail. Send letters via US mail to:

American Road

PO Box 46519

Mt. Clemens, MI 48046

You may send e-mails to becky@mockturtlepress.com.

(Letters and e-mail may be published in an upcoming issue of

AMERICAN ROAD and may be edited for style and available

space.)

ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC HISTORIC HIGHWAYS OR AUTO

TRAILS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO READ ABOUT IN

AMERICAN ROAD?

Let us know. We review reader input when planning our feature

schedule.

MANY THANKS TO THE ADVERTISERS IN AMERICAN ROAD

They help make AMERICAN ROAD possible. When you patronize

them be sure to tell them you saw them in AMERICAN ROAD:

(Listed alphabetically)

California Route 66 Museum & Gift Shop

- http://www.califrt66museum.com

Chicago Southland Convention & Visitors Bureau

- http://www.visitchicagosouthland.com

Clark County Historical Museum

- http://www.cchmuseum.org

Cycle Barn

- http://www.cyclebarn.com

EbbTide & HiTide Resorts

Flashback Malt Shoppe & Gifts

- http://www.flashbackinseaside.com

Ghost Town Press

Jeff Herman Sign Collector

- jmnruf@aol.com

Jerry McClanahan Roadside Artist

- http://www.mockturtlepress.com

John Claar's Hitching Post

-http://www.mockturtlepress.com/jcintroduction.html

Lakes to Locks Passage

- http://www.info@lakestolocks.com

Lincoln Highway Trading Post

- http://www.lhtp.com

Mobil Travel Guide

- http://www.mobiltravelguide.com

Motorbooks International

- http://www.motorbooks.com

Motorcycle 101

- http://www.soundrider.com

Munger Moss Motel

- http://www.mungermoss.com

National Historic Route 66 Federation

- http://www.national66.org

Nebraska Department of Tourism

- http://www.visitnebraska.org

New Mexico Route 66 Association

-http://www.rt66nm.org

101 Cafe

-http://www.101cafe.net

Ollie's Shirt Factory

Paccom Films

- http://www.66films.com

Pop Up Times

- http://www.popuptimes.com

Roadside Gallery

-http://www.roadsidegallery.com

Roadworks Gifts & Souvenirs

- http://www.route66roadworks.com

Route 66 Mother Road Museum

- http://www.barstow66museum.itgo.com

Route 66: The Romance of the West

- http://www.mockturtlepress.com

RV Companion Magazine

- http://www.rvcompanion.com/subspecial

Tony Craig Art Gallery

- http://www.tonycraig.net

Twisters 50s Soda Fountain

- http://www.rout66place.com

PARK PLACE: Your curbside calendar (to submit your events for

the calendar e-mail becky@mockturtlepress.com. Calendar

listings are offered on a first come, first serve basis.)

November 28. Lancaster, Calif.-The 8th Annual Happenin'

Headquarters Toy Run. Celebrate the holidays and help families

in the community with a $10.00 new toy donation to Penny Lane

Charities. Enjoy food, music and fun including a Vietnam Vets

Poker Run, cycle and auto events. Festivities run from 11 am to 7

pm at Harley Davidson, 1759 West Avenue J-12.Call

661-947.3734 or e-mail hhtr@alleygl.org.

December 1. Columbus, Ohio. Thurber House is celebrating the

arts in Columbus for its 20th anniversary gala by featuring

special ensemble performances by members of the ProMusica

Chamber Orchestra, the Jazz Arts Group, the Contemporary

American Theatre Company and more. The Gala, which also will

celebrate author, humorist and New Yorker cartoonist James

Thurber©?s 110th birthday, will start at 6:00 p.m. on Wednesday,

December 1 at the Westin Great Southern Hotel, 310 S. High St.

Tickets for the event are $125 and include a cocktail reception,

dinner, the performance and a raffle. Corporate packages also

are available. To order tickets, please call 614-464-1032 or visit

http://www.thurberhouse.org..

December 10-12. Phoenix, Ariz.-Arizona Motorcycle Expo. The

Arizona State Fairgrounds hosts the Southwest's Premier

Motorcycle Expo. Attend the event that features the very best in

bike builders, manufacturers, and vendors. Mark your calendars

to attend this event where Arizona shows why its the best state to

drive. For more information contact Andy Myers at 480-899-6458.

December 11. League City, Texas.-11h Annual USMC Toys for

Tots Toy Run. Bikes (motorcycles) leave Walter Hall Park

at10:30 am and proceed to Pasadena Rodeo Grounds with a

police escort. Enjoy food, entertainment, games, vendors and

more. Bring a $5.00 donation or a new unwrapped toy. Rain or

Shine!!! Phone the Toy Run Headquarters at 713-472-2235.

November 27-December 18 (Thursday-Saturday 5-8 pm.

Sundays 1-4 pm.) Fond du Lac, Wis.-12 Days of Christmas

Lamplight Tour. Travelers are invited to stop at the Galloway

House and Village (336 Old Pioneer Road). Tour this 30-room

Victorian mansion decorated for the holidays, including

entertainment, and refreshments. Adults $4, 12 & under $3,

preschool free. Dial 1-800-937-9123 for details.

February 3-5. Pigeon Forge, Tenn.-14th Annual Smoky

Mountains Storytelling Festival™. Celebrate the traditional

mountain art of spinning tales for fun and education. Some of

the nation's top storytellers will give performances and

workshops throughout the weekend. Please confirm with the

Department of Tourism by calling 1-800-251-9100.

February 24 -27. Zephyrhills, Flor.-Zephyrhills Winter AutoFest

Car Show and Swap Meet. Travel 3 miles south of State Rd. 54

on US Hwy 301. The fun lasts 4 days with over 2,500

vendors.Bring the family to the Car & Truck Show on Saturday &

Sunday. Visit: http://zephyrhillsauction.com..

RENEWALS

Check the address label on you latest issue of AMERICAN

ROAD. If the label indicates 0 following "Bal" then your

subscription has expired and its time to renew! Renewal notices

were mailed recently. If you subscribed before March 15, 2004,

you are an automatic member of the Founder's Club and are

entitled to a one-time discount of 25% off the normal

subscription rate—making your reduced rate $11.96 for a one-

year subscription or $20.96 for a two-year subscription.

You may now subscribe on line. Simply go to the following link:

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the page and you will see a button to renew your subscription.

When you renew, please enter your AMERICAN ROAD

subscriber number in the "comments" section when you place

your order. Your subscriber number is preceded by AME.

You may also renew by calling our toll-free number 1-877-285-

5434. During non-business hours you may leave your renewal

information on the password protected messaging system, or

leave a message for one of us to call you back. Please leave us

a message. We will be happy to call you back.

FROM ALL OF US AT AMERICAN ROAD, HAVE A SAFE AND

HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON!

DREAM WELL AND DRIVE SAFELY ON THE AMERICAN ROAD.

March 12, 2006

Becky,

Here's a couple of guesses -- Chester, Illinois and Alma, Arkansas.

Hope you and Thomas had a good Thanksgiving.

Mike Ward

----- Original Message -----

From: beckyrepp<mailto:becky@mockturtlepress.com>

To: <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 6:12 PM

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] AMERICAN ROAD E-NEWSLETTER: HOLIDAY EDITION 2004

HOLIDAY GREETINGS FROM AMERICAN ROAD!

Winter is almost upon us, for some of us it is already here. Once

your holiday shopping is done, you can curl up with a hot

chocolate and a copy of AMERICAN ROAD and plan your

summer road trip--or your WInter sun break! The Winter 04 issue

will give you lots of sun-seeking ideas. It is now in the mail and

on its way to those of you that subscribed before October 15 (it

should arrive in mailboxes in the next few weeks). If you

subscribed after that date, your copy will be mailed at the end of

December.

IN THIS AMERICAN ROAD E-NEWSLETTER:

-HAMPTON HOTELS' SAVE-A-LANDMARK PROGRAM NAMED

AS WINNER OF THE

SUSTAINABLE TOURISM AWARD FOR PRESERVATION

-AMERICAN ROAD TWO-LANE TRIVIA

-WHO'S DRIVING?

-AMERICAN ROAD YAHOO GROUP

-ARE YOU SEARCHING FOR A HOLIDAY GIFT?

-OKLAHOMA ROUTE 66 ASSOCIATION SUCCESSFUL IN

SEEKING OKLAHOMA SCENIC BYWAY NOMINATION.

-WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU

-ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC HISTORIC HIGHWAYS OR AUTO

TRAILS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO READ ABOUT IN

AMERICAN ROAD?

-MANY THANKS TO THE ADVERTISERS IN AMERICAN ROAD

-PARK PLACE: YOUR CURBSIDE CALENDAR

-RENEWALS

----------

-HAMPTON HOTELS' SAVE-A-LANDMARK PROGRAM NAMED

AS WINNER OF THE

SUSTAINABLE TOURISM AWARD FOR PRESERVATION

In our last e-newsletter you read about the nominees for the

SUSTY for Preservation. This award is given annually to a

person, company, or institution that supports preservation or

restoration of historic or culturally significant entities. The

recipient must demonstrate a clear connection between their

endeavors and tourism. There were three nominees for the

SUSTY--one of them was Hampton Hotels' Save-A-Landmark

Program. For those of you that voted, you made a difference!

Hampton Hotels' Save-A-Landmark Program won the SUSTY for

Preservation award! You've read about their projects in

AMERICAN ROAD. To date, they have refurbished 19 landmarks

in North America spending almost $1 million.

One of Hampton's notable projects included refurbishing a

larger-than-life Santa! The World's Largest Santa Claus

(standing 48-feet-tall and

33-feet-wide) was originally built for the 1962 Seattle World's

Fair and was relocated next to the world famous Santa Claus

House in North Pole, Alaska. Hampton reports that "giving Santa

a makeover in the St. Nick of Time - December 2000 - was no

small feat." Restoring the statue required building a nearly 60-

foot-high tent around the figure, heating it to nearly 50 degrees in

below zero temperatures (paint doesn't stick in cold weather

conditions) and using 10 gallons of red, 5 of white and 3 gallons

of black paint."

So, a hearty "Ho-ho-ho and way to go!" to Hampton from

AMERICAN ROAD!

For background on the finalists, log on to

http://www.sustainabletourismawards.com/..<http://www.sustainabletourismawards.co.

m/.>

AMERICAN ROAD TWO-LANE TRIVIA

The FIRST person to respond to me via e-mail with the correct

answer to the trivia question below wins the 1st AMERICAN

ROAD denim cap made available to the public (This six-panel,

relaxed fit cap with adjustable self-fabric back and brass-colored

buckle-snap fastener and grommet is perfect to wear everyday

or wear for those special cruises and car rallies. Retail value

$12.95).

Ready, set, go!

Trivia Question: Popeye is 75 years old this year. Name at least

one city in America that has a statue of the salty sailor along its

American roadside?

(Hint: One of them is the birth city of Popeye's creator, Elzie

Crisler Segar. You'll find the answers in AMERICAN ROAD vol. 2,

issue 3)

WHO'S DRIVING?

Look for a new contest in our next issue of AMERICAN ROAD.

Readers will be asked to send in the name of the individual

who's image is positioned in the driver's seat of the automobile.

All correct answers received will be placed in a drawing. One

name will be drawn from the hat immediately before the next

issue goes to press. The winner will receive the prize. The prize

in the Winter 04 issue is a complete set of the AMERICA'S

BYWAY SERIES (published by Mobil Travel Guide) that retails for

$67.80.

*Special thanks to the above sponsor of the AMERICAN ROAD

WHO'S DRIVING CONTEST!

***CLASSIFIEDS (Buying, selling, trading? Contact our Ad

Director, Dick Bublitz, at dbublitz@mockturtlepress.com for

information on this

affordable advertising option--only $25.00 for up to 50 words!).

======

ANDERSON PRODUCTIONS: Looking for unique items for gift-

giving this holiday season? Check-out the quality Route 66

caps, visors, tee-shirts, sweatshirts, license plates, key tags, hat

pins, bolos, and belt buckles (whew!) at http://<'>http://<'>http://<'>http://<'>http://<http:///>

www.cruisinroute66.com from Anderson Productions. You can

also request a PDF product line brochure - email

kand66@hotmail.com.

======

EARLY LINCOLN HIGHWAY ROAD GUIDES-

1915 & 1916 reprints are of the original guides published by the

Lincoln Highway only $11.95 each. ORDER both for just $20.00.

Plus $4.00 shipping. RG Southwell Foundation 117 R street,

Salt Lake City, UT 84103. THE OTHER HERITAGE is a

newsletter about the Lincoln Highway. The man from Utah,

editor. Comments welcomed. :Rollin.Southwell@pgrimes.com.

http://www.xmission.com/~pgrimes/lincoln.htm<http://www.xmission.com/~pgrimes/li

ncoln.htm>

======

HISTORIC NATIONAL ROAD, WEST VIRGINIA: From the birth of

our nation, many sites in history beckon to us across time, and

the Historic National Road in West Virginia is key among them.

Beautiful Victorian architecture, museums, and National Historic

Landmarks provide travelers with authentic experiences. Web:

http://www.historicwvnationalroad.org.Toll<http://www.historicwvnationalroad.org

.toll/> Free: 1.800.828.3097

======

MOBIL TRAVEL GUIDE provides consumers recommendations

they can trust! Visit

<http://www.mobiltravelguide.com/> or call 1-

866-MOBILTG to order our Regional Travel Planners, On the

Road with Your Pet, or the America's Byways series. While

you're online don't miss the Road Trip Planner options to

help

customize your trip and book hotel reservations.

======

NEBRASKA: Get your free Nebraska travel packet with

information on attractions, frontier adventures, natural wonders,

arts and culture, scenic byways, weekend getaways, golf,

lodgings, things to see & do, plus over a thousand festivals and

events. Nebraska. Possibilities...endless. Call 1-877-

NEBRASKA for a free travel packet, or on the Web at

www.VisitNebraska.org

======

TONY CRAIG ART GALLERY: Take an artistic virtual tour of

America's highways (diners, motels, milling companies and lots

of neon)! ! Original watercolor paintings and prints featuring

roadside America. Log on to:

<http://www.tonycraig.net/>

======

101 CAFE: Get a free nostalgia trip on Historic Highway 101 by

way of the 101 Cafe. This site will educate, entertain and connect

you to Historic Highway 101 History, Images, Attractions, Natural

wonders, Arts and Surf culture, Lodgings, Things to See & Do.

www.101cafe.net.

======

**Remember to tell them you saw them in AMERICAN ROAD's

e-newsletter!

ARE YOU SEARCHING FOR A HOLIDAY GIFT FOR YOUR

FAVORITE ROADIE?

Search no more. A subscription to AMERICAN ROAD is the

perfect gift that they will enjoy all year long! Order today by

calling

toll-free 1-877-285-5434, or order on-line (http://<http:///>

www.mockturtlepress.com). We will send a gift notice-and we

can personalize it with a message from you!

We now have GIFT CERTIFICATES (available in $5.00

increments)! They may be used by the recipient to purchase

subscriptions, back issues, or any item in the Hitching Post. We

added several new, unique items yesterday to the Hitching Post-

-including hand-embroidered AMERICAN ROAD WEAR! Be sure

to pay us a visit at

<http://www.mockturtlepress.com/>

jcintroduction.html. You'll want to bookmark this site, as we have

more items to be posted in the next few days--including made-

to-order roadsigns that meet DOT specifications! Best of all, you

don't need to leave your house to fight holiday crowds to find that

perfect gift for your favorite roadie! Order today on-line at

http://<http:///>

www.mockturtlepress.com or by calling our toll-free number at 1-

877-285-5434.

And, don't forget all the great gift ideas advertised in AMERICAN

ROAD! Tell them you saw it in AMERICAN ROAD!

OKLAHOMA ROUTE 66 ASSOCIATION SUCCESSFUL IN

SEEKING OKLAHOMA STATE SCENIC BYWAY NOMINATION.

Former Oklahoma Route 66 Association Executive Director,

Linda Fernau, reports that the Association, in conjunction with

the USDA Natural Resources Conservation Service, was

successful in its quest to obtain Oklahoma State Scenic Byway

status for Oklahoma Route 66! Former association president,

Kathy Anderson along with Bill Fernau, Linda's husband and co-

owner of the Chandler Phillips 66 Station wrote the application.

(Many of you read about the station in the very first issue of

AMERICAN ROAD! For those of you that missed the first issue

you can read the article by visiting http://<http:///>

www.patinaproperties.com or by visiting http://<http:///>

www.mockturtlepress.com and reading the sample issue.)

Linda and Bill made the successful presentation to the

nominating committee.

Congratulations, Oklahoma! You've given a wonderful holiday gift

to roadies everywhere.

WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU

We welcome your correspondence and questions. Have you

paid a recent visit to one or more of the places mentioned in a

previous issue of AMERICAN ROAD? We want to hear about it.

We love receiving your cards, letters and e-mails. You may send

us a letter or e-mail. Send letters via US mail to:

American Road

PO Box 46519

Mt. Clemens, MI 48046

You may send e-mails to becky@mockturtlepress.com.

(Letters and e-mail may be published in an upcoming issue of

AMERICAN ROAD and may be edited for style and available

space.)

ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC HISTORIC HIGHWAYS OR AUTO

TRAILS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO READ ABOUT IN

AMERICAN ROAD?

Let us know. We review reader input when planning our feature

schedule.

MANY THANKS TO THE ADVERTISERS IN AMERICAN ROAD

They help make AMERICAN ROAD possible. When you patronize

them be sure to tell them you saw them in AMERICAN ROAD:

(Listed alphabetically)

California Route 66 Museum & Gift Shop

- <http://www.califrt66museum.com/>

Chicago Southland Convention & Visitors Bureau

- <http://www.visitchicagosouthland.com/>

Clark County Historical Museum

- <http://www.cchmuseum.org/>

Cycle Barn

- <http://www.cyclebarn.com/>

EbbTide & HiTide Resorts

Flashback Malt Shoppe & Gifts

- <http://www.flashbackinseaside.com/>

Ghost Town Press

Jeff Herman Sign Collector

- jmnruf@aol.com

Jerry McClanahan Roadside Artist

- <http://www.mockturtlepress.com/>

John Claar's Hitching Post

-http://www.mockturtlepress.com/jcintroduction.html<http://www.mockturtlepress.c

om/jcintroduction.html>

Lakes to Locks Passage

- <http://www.info@lakestolocks.com/>

Lincoln Highway Trading Post

- <http://www.lhtp.com/>

Mobil Travel Guide

- <http://www.mobiltravelguide.com/>

Motorbooks International

- <http://www.motorbooks.com/>

Motorcycle 101

- <http://www.soundrider.com/>

Munger Moss Motel

- <http://www.mungermoss.com/>

National Historic Route 66 Federation

- <http://www.national66.org/>

Nebraska Department of Tourism

- <http://www.visitnebraska.org/>

New Mexico Route 66 Association

-<http://www.rt66nm.org/>

101 Cafe

-<http://www.101cafe.net/>

Ollie's Shirt Factory

Paccom Films

- <http://www.66films.com/>

Pop Up Times

- <http://www.popuptimes.com/>

Roadside Gallery

-<http://www.roadsidegallery.com/>

Roadworks Gifts & Souvenirs

- <http://www.route66roadworks.com/>

Route 66 Mother Road Museum

- <http://www.barstow66museum.itgo.com/>

Route 66: The Romance of the West

- <http://www.mockturtlepress.com/>

RV Companion Magazine

- <http://www.rvcompanion.com/subspecial>

Tony Craig Art Gallery

- <http://www.tonycraig.net/>

Twisters 50s Soda Fountain

- <http://www.rout66place.com/>

PARK PLACE: Your curbside calendar (to submit your events for

the calendar e-mail becky@mockturtlepress.com. Calendar

listings are offered on a first come, first serve basis.)

November 28. Lancaster, Calif.-The 8th Annual Happenin'

Headquarters Toy Run. Celebrate the holidays and help families

in the community with a $10.00 new toy donation to Penny Lane

Charities. Enjoy food, music and fun including a Vietnam Vets

Poker Run, cycle and auto events. Festivities run from 11 am to 7

pm at Harley Davidson, 1759 West Avenue J-12.Call

661-947.3734 or e-mail hhtr@alleygl.org.

December 1. Columbus, Ohio. Thurber House is celebrating the

arts in Columbus for its 20th anniversary gala by featuring

special ensemble performances by members of the ProMusica

Chamber Orchestra, the Jazz Arts Group, the Contemporary

American Theatre Company and more. The Gala, which also will

celebrate author, humorist and New Yorker cartoonist James

Thurber©^s 110th birthday, will start at 6:00 p.m. on Wednesday,

December 1 at the Westin Great Southern Hotel, 310 S. High St.

Tickets for the event are $125 and include a cocktail reception,

dinner, the performance and a raffle. Corporate packages also

are available. To order tickets, please call 614-464-1032 or visit

<http://www.thurberhouse.org./.>

December 10-12. Phoenix, Ariz.-Arizona Motorcycle Expo. The

Arizona State Fairgrounds hosts the Southwest's Premier

Motorcycle Expo. Attend the event that features the very best in

bike builders, manufacturers, and vendors. Mark your calendars

to attend this event where Arizona shows why its the best state to

drive. For more information contact Andy Myers at 480-899-6458.

December 11. League City, Texas.-11h Annual USMC Toys for

Tots Toy Run. Bikes (motorcycles) leave Walter Hall Park

at10:30 am and proceed to Pasadena Rodeo Grounds with a

police escort. Enjoy food, entertainment, games, vendors and

more. Bring a $5.00 donation or a new unwrapped toy. Rain or

Shine!!! Phone the Toy Run Headquarters at 713-472-2235.

November 27-December 18 (Thursday-Saturday 5-8 pm.

Sundays 1-4 pm.) Fond du Lac, Wis.-12 Days of Christmas

Lamplight Tour. Travelers are invited to stop at the Galloway

House and Village (336 Old Pioneer Road). Tour this 30-room

Victorian mansion decorated for the holidays, including

entertainment, and refreshments. Adults $4, 12 & under $3,

preschool free. Dial 1-800-937-9123 for details.

February 3-5. Pigeon Forge, Tenn.-14th Annual Smoky

Mountains Storytelling FestivalT. Celebrate the traditional

mountain art of spinning tales for fun and education. Some of

the nation's top storytellers will give performances and

workshops throughout the weekend. Please confirm with the

Department of Tourism by calling 1-800-251-9100.

February 24 -27. Zephyrhills, Flor.-Zephyrhills Winter AutoFest

Car Show and Swap Meet. Travel 3 miles south of State Rd. 54

on US Hwy 301. The fun lasts 4 days with over 2,500

vendors.Bring the family to the Car & Truck Show on Saturday &

Sunday. Visit: <http://zephyrhillsauction.com./.>

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in Alma, Arkansas, which bills itself as "The spinach

capital of America".

I posted a picture of this statue on the

AmericanRoad egroup - you can find it under "U S

64......."

Hudsonly,

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March 12, 2006

Albuquerque's Landmarks Commission unanimously voted to recommend El

Vado Motel as a city landmark.

You can read about it here:

http://rwarn17588.wordpress.com/2005/12/15...-vado-motel-rec

ommended/

Ron Warnick

Tulsa, OK

www.route66news.org

March 12, 2006

Hi all...We found a really inexpensive way to rent cars. We decided to keep some

miles off our cars for our upcoming trip this weekend, so we decided to rent. If

you're a member, Sam's Club has a really good deal for rentals under their

"Member Benefits" section on their website (www.samsclub.com). Through Sam's,

we're renting a compact from Thrifty from this Thursday night through Monday

night and it's costing just $88, taxes included. Just for kicks (hold the puns),

I went to Thrifty's website and typed in the exact same days and they quoted me

$175 for the same compact.

So if you're a Sam's Club member, take advantage of this benefit. They also have

discounts on hotels, (evil) airline flights, and cruises. The direct link is:

http://tinyurl.com/4gsqn

Happy Travel$!!

Pat B.

April 1, 2006

Howdy folks,

Yep, I'm still selling stuff on eBay. Just wanted you to know about the new

LILLY the giant cat at CORAL COURT MOTEL greeting cards for sale. There are

8 different cards with 8 envelopes. They are hilarious.

Check them out at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...;ssPageName=ADM

E:B:LC:US:1

If you need to see individual images, email me privately. Thanks for

looking.

Shellee Graham

(coralcourt -

user id on ebay)

:-)

P.S. If anyone has a "Jim's Restaurant, Vinita, OK" pc that they are willing

to part with, please let me know. Thankya.

April 1, 2006

Hi Shellee,,...

Come 'on. I know you got my last message.

Ken

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Shellee Graham <SHELLEE66@E...>

wrote:

> Howdy folks,

>

> Yep, I'm still selling stuff on eBay. Just wanted you to know about

the new

> LILLY the giant cat at CORAL COURT MOTEL greeting cards for sale.

There are

> 8 different cards with 8 envelopes. They are hilarious.

>

> Check them out at:

>

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll??

ViewItem&item=2221408662&ssPageName=ADM

> E:B:LC:US:1

>

> If you need to see individual images, email me privately. Thanks for

> looking.

>

> Shellee Graham

>

> (coralcourt -

> user id on ebay)

> :-)

>

> P.S. If anyone has a "Jim's Restaurant, Vinita, OK" pc that they

are willing

> to part with, please let me know. Thankya.

April 1, 2006

Greetings from the frozen Heartland (3 degrees as I type)! In an

effort to add a little more activity to the American Road group, a

plan has been developed by a committee (us) to have a monthly chat

night. For those of you who access the AR group via the website,

you'll know there is a "chat" feature. This is where this event will

take place.

What we're proposing is that once a month we have a "Chat Night" (Can

anyone come up with a catchy road-themed title for this instead

of "Chat Night"??). What we'd like to accomplish with this is to line

up a guest every month, if possible, or just have it an open forum

where we swap stories & whatnot in real time.

So now it's time for our first poll. Later today there will be a poll

(also accessible via the website) asking you which night of the week

you'd like to have this. We'd also like to have this as a scheduled

monthly thing, so we'll also be picking a particular week of the

month. We'd like to get this thing going sometime in February. Any

feedback would be great! Feel free to e-mail Pat at roadmaven@aol.com.

Thanks & we look forward to hearing your thoughts!

Pat & Jennifer Bremer

AR List Hosts

April 1, 2006

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April 1, 2006

Back in the mid nineties I was stationed on the USS

Abraham Lincoln, which was being refurbished in dry

dock in Bremerton. The Navy put the crew up in hotels

in Tacoma and Fife for about a year. My temporary home

was at the Days Inn on Pacific Highway (old 99) in

Fife. It was during this time that I became interested

in 99.

I was lucky that the PikQuick was only a half mile up

the road. They serve some great burgers, fries, and

shakes. The place is family owned, and they have a

great grassy picnic style area for eating.

Unfortunately I have not been back to the area since,

but I do remember the great food. The prices are

reasonable, but they are only open in the warmer

months.

Mike Frankovich

Highway99 Yahoogroup moderator

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/Highway99/

--- drivewdave@aol.com wrote:

> (speaking of fries, the Pikquik, a classic dinky

> drive-in on 99

> in Fife was closed for the winter, will reopen in

> the spring,

> it is now surrounded by car lots, it's former

> neighbor, the

> Fife Drive-In Theater is long gone, when I-5 was

> first

> built they had to put up a tall fence along the

> theater

> as it was too distracting.)

April 2, 2006

Hi gang...

I've been doing a lot of research finding and exploring the original path of

route 66 and the National Old Trails highway in California (and it's not, for

the most part, where the "current" route 66 runs). I hope at some point to

put up all the information on a webpage or as part of a hiking/backgroading

guidebook, but I was curious to know if anyone else had gotten into this or if

there were any websites or mailing lists that the folks here would recommend for

research and/or exchanging information.

adam marsland

April 2, 2006

Business was booming for travelers and motels in Denver in 1952. Denver's

twenty plus mile long "main street" is Colfax Ave, Highway 40 along it's

entire length. Denver was a oasis after many miles of travel across the

prairies from Kansas and through eastern Colorado. Listed below are the

motels of the Denver area from East to West that served travelers at that

time. Note the 1952 vintage rates listed for some locations. The * mark

indicates motels still in existence today, though only a few would be

appealing to today's vacation traveler. Colfax Avenue today is undergoing

some revitalization and redevelopment so many of these old places are

meeting the wrecking ball. Please check out my webshots albums

http://community.webshots.com/user/route40roadtrip for photos of several

of these locations and the neon signs that still light up the road. This

information was gathered from postcards, advertising and two Denver area

visitor's guides (from my collection).

address street business name city phone

notes

14837 East Colfax Miles Motel Aurora AU 087 5 Units -

still standing 2005 as a "ghost"

14801 East Colfax Zaharias Half-Acre Motel & Trailer Park Aurora

AU 0132 8 Units

13000 East Colfax Holiday Courts Aurora AU 0407 12 Units

12888 East Colfax Lor-Fen Motel Aurora AU 0397 10 Units

12590 East Colfax Combs Manor House Aurora AU 1627 5 Units

*12500 East Colfax Blue Spruce Motor Court Aurora AU 1112 21

Units

12200 East Colfax Fitzsimons Motor Court Aurora AU 396 34

Units

12099 East Colfax S.0.S. Motel Aurora AU 707 22 Units 1725

Peoria

*12033 East Colfax Courtesy Motel Aurora AU 1121 12 Units

12030 East Colfax Royal Villa Motel Aurora AU 59 20 Units

11818 East Colfax Pines Motel Aurora AU 1046 5 Units

11760 East Colfax Av-May-Ken Motel Aurora AU 1194 9 Units

11707 East Colfax B & B Cottages Aurora AU 27 8units

11617 East Colfax All States Cottages Aurora AU 3957 14 Units

11611 East Colfax Travelers Motel Aurora AU 1187 9 Units

11607 East Colfax U. S. 40 Court Aurora AU 675 10 Units

11525 East Colfax San Diego Motel Aurora AU 94 14 Units

11450 East Colfax East Gate Motel Aurora AU 319 11 Units

11305 East Colfax Golden West Cabins Aurora AU 277 23 Units

*11220 East Colfax Ranger Motel Aurora AU 578 15 Units

*10998 East Colfax Kenton Motel & Apts. Aurora AU 79 10 Units

1463 Kenton St

*10950 East Colfax Radiant Motel Aurora AU 1183 11 Units

10910 East Colfax Skyline Motor Court Aurora AU 1120 13 Units

10810 East Colfax A & A Cottages Aurora AU 282 14 Units

10750 East Colfax Trav-O-Tel Aurora AU 528 12 Units

*10730 East Colfax K Motor Lodge Aurora AU 659 7 Units

10600 East Colfax Aurora Cottage Camp Aurora AU 244 11units

10400 East Colfax Sago Motel Aurora AU 1499 10 Units

10300 East Colfax 20th Century Motel Aurora AU 359 16 Units

*9201 East Colfax Jo-Ann Motel Aurora AU 174 12 Units

9200 East Colfax Cottonwood Motor Court Aurora AU 141 27

Units~demolished summer 2004

9025 East Colfax Colfax Motor Court Aurora AU 237 16 Units

9010 East Colfax Avalon Motel Aurora AU 373 8 Units

*8787 East Colfax Lazy C Motor Lodge Denver DE 9827 17 Units

8701 East Colfax Rest Well Motel Denver FR 9792 8 Units

8675 East Colfax Union Pacific Motel Denver EA 1750 14 Units

*8600 East Colfax Brandin’ Iron Motor Lodge Denver FL 1613 28

Units

*8567 East Colfax Silver Spur Motel Denver DE 5596 12 Units

(Formerly Willow Motel)

8501 East Colfax San Luis Motor Court Denver FR 0902 9 Units

*8500 East Colfax Ahwahnee Motel & Lodge Denver EA 3234 32

Units

*8415 East Colfax Sand & Sage Denver EA 9731 15 Units

*8339 East Colfax Airway Motel Denver DE 9919 10 Units

*6030 East Colfax Paragon Motel Denver DE 9970 16 Units

*4801 West Colfax Eddie Bonn’s Pig ‘N Whistle Village Denver CH

0341 Rates: $5-15~17 Units

5601 West Colfax Red Wing Motel Lakewood BE 3-9705 Rates:

$5-10~21 Units

5637 West Colfax Rody’s Motel Lakewood BE 3-9706 Rates:

$5-8~10 Units

*5799 West Colfax Westway Motel Lakewood BE 3-9155 Rates:

$5-12~9 Units

*5830 West Colfax Sunset Village Motel Lakewood BE 3-4601

Rates:$6-12.50~24 Units

*6001 West Colfax Rocky Mountain Lodge Lakewood BE 3-9795

Rates: $5 Up~14 Units

*6060 West Colfax White Swan Court Lakewood BE 3-9833 Rates:

$5-10~18 Units

6099 West Colfax Bob’s Camp Lakewood BE 3-9856 1526 Ingalls

St. Rates: $3.50-7~13 Units

6560 West Colfax El Rancho Motel Lakewood BE 3-9993 Rates:

$5-15~11 Units

6900 West Colfax Chieka Court Lakewood BE 3-9818 Rates:

$4-8~14 Units

7013 West Colfax King’s Rest Motel Lakewood BE 3-3337 Rates:

$6-10~16units

7030 West Colfax Lido Motel Lakewood BE 3-9748 ~13 Units

7445 West Colfax Blue Bow Cabins Lakewood BE 3-9761 Rates:

$3.50-8~29 Units

7862 West Colfax Lloyds Of Lakewood Lakewood BE 3-4529 Rates:

$5- 10~12 Units

7990 West Colfax Montview Court Lakewood BE 3-9785 Rates:

$4-9~17 Units

8150 West Colfax Top Notch Motel Lakewood BE 3-4533 Rates: $5

Up~10 Units

8201 West Colfax El Rey Lodge Lakewood BE 3-9814 Rates: $6

Up~10 Units

8224 West Colfax Bruce Auto Court Lakewood BE 3-3477 Rates:

$3-7~10 Units

*8315 West Colfax Lakewood Motel Lakewood BE 3-9801 Rates:

$7-15~22 Units

8635 West Colfax Boggio’s Mount Crest Motel Lakewood BE 3-3717

Rates:$10-15~18units

8650 West Colfax Capitol Auto Court Lakewood BE 3-1242 Rates:

$6-10~10 Units

8700 West Colfax El Ricardo Motel Lakewood BE 3-9773

Rates:$5-12~14 Units

8803 West Colfax Alpine Motel Lakewood BE 3-3223 Rates: $6-8~8

Units

*9025 West Colfax Trails’ End Motel Lakewood BE 3-9935 Rates:

$7-8~8 Units

9201 West Colfax Park-O-Tel Lakewood BE 3-9745 Rates: $6 Up~16

Units

9501 West Colfax Colfax Motel Lakewood BE 3-2392 Rates:

$5-12~11 Units

9595 West Colfax Siesta Motel Lakewood BE 3-4091 Rates:

$6-12~5 Units

9700 West Colfax Estes Motel Lakewood BE 3-5297 Rates: $4-8~6

units

9988 West Colfax Monterey Lodge Lakewood BE 3-9868 Rates:

$5-12~12 Units

10140 West Colfax Idlewild Motel Lakewood BE 3-9826 Rates: $6

Up~16 Units

10210 West Colfax Hi-Way Motel Lakewood BE 3-6541

Rates:$5-18~33 Units

11005 West Colfax Rip Van Winkle’s Motel Lakewood BE 3-9787

Rates: $5-10~13 Units

11090 West Colfax Foot Of The Rockies Motel Lakewood BE 3-1904

Rates: $4-9~10 Units

11193 West Colfax Cozy B Motel & Trailer Villa Lakewood BE

3-1220 Rates: $4-9~6 Units

11611 West Colfax Travis Motor Lodge Lakewood BE 3-9837 Rates:

$4-9~12 Units

11700 West Colfax Green Pine Motel Lakewood BE 3-1910

Rates:$4-10~23 Units

11701 West Colfax El Jay Motel Lakewood BE 3-2754 Rates: $6~4

Units

If you find this type of information interesting please send a private

e-mail to let me know the effort is appreciated. If you have a special

interest in Route 40 in Colorado and especially the Denver area please

contact me so we can compare notes. Thanks for reading ! !

Walt Hackney

gyrfal@juno.com

April 2, 2006

Hi,

My wife and I are taking a year-long road trip starting this summer.

The idea behind our trip will be to go FAR off the main roads and

find the off-the-radar stuff.

Just curious if anyone on this forum has recommendations for cool,

obscure towns or unknown-but-compelling sites to visit. I still

remember stumbling upon Carhenge in West Nebraska and how thrilling

it was to find something so weird, so unexpected, in the middle of

nowhere. That's the kind of thing we're after.

We'll go anywhere, see anything. No idea is a bad one....

Regards,

Scott Lacy

www.homesweetroad.com

April 2, 2006

I love it! Thanks for putting the list together, Walt. I enjoyed seeing the

names of the old establishments, and imagining what the scene would have looked

like driving down the road.

If so inclined, I think you have a solid foundation to make a stellar website,

by incorporating postcards, photos, ephemera, and such.

John, who was last in Denver three years ago and drove down Rt. 40.

WALTER HACKNEY <gyrfal@juno.com> wrote:

If you find this type of information interesting please send a private

e-mail to let me know the effort is appreciated. If you have a special

interest in Route 40 in Colorado and especially the Denver area please

contact me so we can compare notes. Thanks for reading ! !

Walt Hackney

gyrfal@juno.com

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Raleigh, North Carolina, USA, Earth

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-- Henry Miller

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April 2, 2006

I love it! Thanks for putting the list together, Walt. I enjoyed seeing the

names of the old establishments, and imagining what the scene would have looked

like driving down the road.

If so inclined, I think you have a solid foundation to make a stellar website,

by incorporating postcards, photos, ephemera, and such.

John, who was last in Denver three years ago and drove down Rt. 40.

WALTER HACKNEY <gyrfal@juno.com> wrote:

If you find this type of information interesting please send a private

e-mail to let me know the effort is appreciated. If you have a special

interest in Route 40 in Colorado and especially the Denver area please

contact me so we can compare notes. Thanks for reading ! !

Walt Hackney

gyrfal@juno.com

`````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

John M. Sullivan

Raleigh, North Carolina, USA, Earth

"Whoever uses the spirit that is in him creatively is an artist. To make living

itself an art, that is the goal."

-- Henry Miller

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April 2, 2006

What was that first fatality, Cristy? A fall from a horse or wagon....or was it

in the early part of the 20th century and possibly attributed to an auto

accident?

Matt Smallwood

Cristy <clfritz@yahoo.com> wrote:

That part of Ohio is a great part of the National Road. There are

still some original mile markers (I have pictures of every one in

Ohio) S-bridges, original bridges and if you are observant, you can

find parts of the original road. Norwich (the small town near the

motel) was the site of the first recorded fatality on the National

Road. Enjoy your trip.

Cristy

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@...> wrote:

>

> Welcome to the group and thanks for verifying that Baker's is what

it looks

> like. You can't beat hearing from someone who has actually stayed at a

> motel.

>

> I have visited the National Road Museum and it and the road itself

are what

> draws me to that area. And it is Baker's proximity to the museum that

> attracted me to it. I've also stopped at the Glenn house twice but

it was

> closed both times. No fault of theirs - just bad timing on my part.

>

> --Denny

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